you probably already know where my question is going 😄
#networking
heavy meteor
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I have 3 virtual switches. One "WAN" is an external switch, one is "LAN" which is private, the last one is "ADMIN" which is a whatever is in the middle which allows my pc locally to hopefully access pfsense
"WAN" is only connected to the pfsense vm. "LAN" is connected to all vms. "ADMIN" is only connected to the pfsense vm.
@heavy meteor
heavy meteor
where are the vms connected?
nvm
do you want the vms to go out through pfsense and onto the wan port which is connected to the internet, right?
heavy meteor
Can pfsense talk to the internet?
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I believe so. It's saying there updates and such. Let me test.
Wait.. 100% packet loss.... hmm let me check
Hmm I'm so confused
@heavy meteor Ive never used pfsense before so Im very confused...
heavy meteor
Well, start with the basics.
can you ping your gateway from pfsense?
do your dns servers resolve hostnames?
are the gateways correct
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pinged 10.0.0.1 just fine
resolves google.com
cannot ping google or even my external home ip
heavy meteor
Is the vm using the lan ip of the pfsense vm
there may be policy telling pfsense to drop traffic
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pfsense vm has 3 ips: 10.0.0.110 home lan 10.50.10.1 internal virtual lan not vlan and some random ip i forget
@heavy meteor
heavy meteor
So is the windows vm on the LAN network using 10.50.10.1 as the gateway?
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Windows VM has 2 interfaces because I temporaly added the WAN interface for ease.
so it has 10.50.10.X and 10.0.0.X
heavy meteor
there could be policy on pfsense telling it to block traffic. I would check that out
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Where would it be? Firewall?
heavy meteor
most likely
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Theres no active firewall rules for WAN and Im sending a screenshot of LAN
elfin socket
Pfsense, that good for packet sniffing outbound traffic? Was thinking about expanding my IOT setup but i want to know if anyone is calling home to mother russia and Rostlecom
heavy meteor
oh, check the log if there is one @rocky badge
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heavy meteor
that could just mean the interface then
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because I know the wan virtual switch is working.
heavy meteor
i'm downloading pfsense now. It will take forever, I'm in a crappy wifi network
heavy meteor
why am I on a crappy wifi network?
heavy meteor
So I can see what is going on with my own eyes. I've never used it before, so I'm checking things out.
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ah
I would let you remote but I cant even do that..
@heavy meteor YAY.... ok so pfsense can ping google
heavy meteor
nice
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but the clients arent getting internet from it...
heavy meteor
disable the bridged connection of one of the clients so that you are only on the LAN network then ping pfsense. Do you get a response?
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o wait... the clients have to manually set a default gateway..
heavy meteor
You don't have dhcp turned on for that subnet?
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no not yet
heavy meteor
gateways help 😄
heavy meteor
You would need to allow that traffic
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im trying to
I already allowed some but i cannot access that
ok dhcp is enabled and working
night night
So FIOS is great
This is from my phone's wifi at the furthest location in my house
Ethernet gets 900 down and 880 up
I nearly teared up 🤗
winged moth
How big is your house and what kind of access point ar you using?
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I see a problem with the equipment our school IT is using... it's not ubiquit or netgear
winged moth
What is it?
On the wireless side, for a school, I wouldn't be using Ubiquiti. Probably Meraki, or that one that Linus uses that I can't remember the name of.
Rukus.
slow moth
winged moth
What do they use now?
He uses Rukus at home. Although if they got rid of Rukus at work, that would explain why he's using such an overkill piece of hardware.
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they use entrasys and cisco
fast lichen
Is there a way to bypass udp dpi firewall?
winged moth
DPI?
fast lichen
Yep
winged moth
Oh, deep packet
fast lichen
Deep Packet Inspection
winged moth
Are you in control of it, or is it like a work/school device that you're trying to bypass?
fast lichen
It’s umm... an ISP firewall
winged moth
wat?
fast lichen
Yep
winged moth
Where do you live? And what are you trying to do that it's blocked?
winged moth
Are you able to change the port for the VOIP service?
winged moth
I mean, if you set it to something like port 80, they might have it disabled for high traffic ports.
fast lichen
The ports themselves aren’t blocked
The packets are getting thrown if it knows that it’s a VoIP packet
winged moth
There's only so much traffic you can do DPI on. Unless they have a pretty impressive device, they probably have a few ports disabled to lower the load. I mean, past VPNs or luck, there's not much that you can do to get around it.
winged moth
Doesn't mean it's powerful enough to run DPI on ISP levels of traffic without crippling their throughput.
That's part of what firewalls are supposed to do, prevent there from being a way. VPNs are the best solution to it.
fast lichen
I told you there’s a way because every firewall has a weak point
I’m sure of it because I got through with TCP.. UDP is left
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yay, got pfsense working https://ryois.me/i/ebd7c542b.png
winged moth
What kind of issues were you having? PFsense has been pretty plug'n'play in my experience.
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remote access, connecting to the internet from pfsense, then getting internet on the clients, dhcp not working, etc
winged moth
Should basically be, get an external IP set. Set up DNS servers, set an internal IP. Then you log into the web interface and start with the more intricate stuff like DHCP, DNS relay if you feel like it, more details firewall rules.
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Idk why it wasnt getting ia gateway automaticaly because that was the problem.
winged moth
The clients or the PFsense box itself?
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both
winged moth
Might be that your ISP only provides gateways to known devices AKA their devices. As to the clients not getting a gateway, it seems you messed up the DHCP configuration.
winged moth
Ahh. Hyper-V. I can't help as much there.
I know that with VMware Workstation you have different types of NIC. If you were using a bridged NIC then you could have manually set the gateway.
I never assume that my external IPs will be provided automatically so I plan on that and gather all the needed details first so I can manually set them.
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Ah
frail igloo
@rocky badge I have all my servers running of hyper v
thick minnow
is it sad i want to emigrate to Minnesota just because they get 10gbps unlimited fibre for $400 a month?
elfin socket
Only if you can use all that.
LA has Frontier Fiber and 350 Up 350 Down 6 ms ping to Speed Test LA would be good enough for me
Just annoying that my packets get shot off to Chicago for some reason when the Speed Test servers might as well be in rock throwing distance
That and LoL servers
vagrant heath
I'm thinking of using the fiber ports on my switch to connect my PC.
Anyone have Fiber NIC's they recommend?
rare ember
what else do you have connected via fiber ?
also what speed fiber connection would you want to use ?
elfin socket
Editing 4k to a nas over the network?
Hmm, do they even make affordable sfp for desktops?
I wonder if you could by used sfp to keep long term costs down?
vagrant heath
10Gb/s fiber. Nothing else. I want to do it because I can
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@frail igloo two physical. 2 virtual
@thick minnow in Chattanooga there's 10 gigabit unlimited for 299$/mo
The two physical: AD, FS, IIS, etc.
Virtual #1: Windows Server: IIS and play around VM.
Virtual #2: Ubuntu Server: Multicraft server for MC servers when I need one.
frail igloo
I have 2 physical hyper vs and and 15 virtual
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Then I have a 10 Pro VM, 10 Enterprise VM, 8.1 Embedded Pro VM, PfSense VM, Ubuntu 17 VM, and something else I forgot.
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I use both for Hyper V, IIS, Fileshare, and Remote Services.
https://ryois.me/i/mywallpaper.jpg this is hosted on my IIS server.
Aka my image hosting
elfin socket
Purdy, that Montana?
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I forgot
im not the best at remembering stuff
Windows thinks I'm dumb https://ryois.me/i/0a6e478ce.png
rare ember
@vagrant heath understandable, but unless you have multiple devices that "can" it seems a bit pointless to spend the money to give your desktop 10gbit when its going to be pretty useless
what switch do you have ? out of curiosity ?
but hey, also if you have the money to do it, what the hell go for it 😃
im not sure how much you are looking for a 10gbit capable desktop card probably around 100 - 200$ + the cost of the cables
vagrant heath
As of now I have a Cisco catalyst 2960-S Series SI
But am going to get a Layer 3 Switch
soon(tm)
Said Layer 3 switch will be 10gig
But my Cisco contact is waiting for the next hardware refresh. Amazing how much free gear Cisco staff get.
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nice
elfin socket
Looking to upgrade the home with a 24 port switch and putting 2-4 Cat 6 runs into every bedroom and living room.
Thoughts on this guys setup for his house in organizing his cables?
I want a patch panel and switch for easier troubleshooting, and im thinking about basing it around his solution, but with more management in the switch.
A lot of houses have a structured wiring closet though, and im trying to figure out whether to go with a wall mounted rack, or a low profile structured wiring closet.
agile basin
I would say go rack
elfin socket
Was thinking about something like this, but a bit upsized, with a managed switch for vlan.
agile basin
Netgear has some nice 24 port managed switches
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maybe a edgerouter instead of that tplink?
elfin socket
Im trying to figure out whether to build it using netgear, tp link, or ubiquiti.
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^
elfin socket
I want something i can manage more easily.
agile basin
Netgear switch and patch panel
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do you need wifi too?
agile basin
Ubiquiti router and Access Point(s)
elfin socket
I hear ubiquity has good APs, but Small Net builder recommends tp link. But i want to make sure theres software support down the line.
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Ive never used tplink
elfin socket
Theres a vaulted ceiling, so I want the ability to use an AP with POE injection.
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Netgear POE switch
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A POE 24 port switch seems overkill when i only need 2.
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theres some with 1/2 poe
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If I had more IP cameras, id get a POE switch.
Hmmm, WiFi roming is when you got 2 access points on 1 network using the same SSID?
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yes
elfin socket
They just had a new article
I know Ubi supports it, not sure about how netgear handles that.
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you will want a docker for the controller and then the APs
or if you cant setup a docker the clodudkey
elfin socket
My thoughts were that, since i got a low power NUC, i could try to use a 24 port netgear managed switch, and 1-2 Ubi APs and run their software on the nuc.
agile basin
You could?
elfin socket
Cloud key can be replaced by a low powered pc running their software?
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elfin socket
Question: is it a bit too much to ask for something thats scalable, somewhat easy to manage a few times a year physically, but mostly manageable on a tablet?
Those solutions are enterprise, right?
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Ubiquiti yes
elfin socket
What about netgear prosafe?
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ubiquiti has apps. Netgear is through the web browser on mobile.
elfin socket
The fewer passwords i need to use, the better. Want to monimize my attack surface.
Well, if they got a good experience through safari, thats good.
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you could get ubiquiti switches
elfin socket
Doesnt need to be 100 though an app.
Yeah, im struggling to determine whether to get a netgear or ubi switch. Tp link keeps on coming up, but its usually for unmanaged. Think i need the management?
Maybe if I used this Netgear nighthawk with link aggregation to the switch?
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I have the R7000
elfin socket
I hear alot about level of the switch, do I need a level 2, 3?
My uncle was/is a Cisco CCIE but hes a bit of a miser, so I want an idea of the plan when i show it to him.
turbid frigate
Levels refer to the OSI model. Basically useless unless you are troubleshooting something and need to communicate where the issue is to people
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sorry had to go do something... ok
elfin socket
Oh, thats a good chart. Epseically since it shows packet filtering.
Thanks for the help.
turbid frigate
Your welcome, basically ignore when a product talks about levels when buying something since 99.99% of the time its just adding things for marking purposes
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lol
elfin socket
Oh, so a layer 3 handles routing, layer 2 would be unmanaged. So in terms of netgear, a “smart switch” is level 2+
turbid frigate
kinda like how shell has "V-Power Nito+ Premium Fuel" AKA 93% octane
elfin socket
Been confusing layer with level, havent touched this subject for 2 months.
turbid frigate
Heres a better chart
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uh oh
elfin socket
turbid frigate
you dont connect SMB shares with hostnames? What monster are you!
elfin socket
When you get the chance, can you tell me your thoughts on how he set up this network?
turbid frigate
If those are external IP's I swear....
elfin socket
Ive also been looking at cablesupply.com’s youtube channel for specific info
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I dont trust dns records for smb shares
turbid frigate
@elfin socket So... you want a home network stack?
turbid frigate
\ServerName\Share, I use it all the time. Communicates with windows hostnames
Unraid?
elfin socket
Not sure. Im jist trying to find a best practices guide for enthusiast networking.
And a sound method to manage and troubleshoot.
elfin socket
Also I want something that I can use IOT devices access to the internet, but not my own network. Right now thers 3 belkin wemo light switches, and 2 thermostats cloud managed.
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VLANs
turbid frigate
@elfin socket Look into ubiquiti. Basically get a rackmount router, add either a managed or a smart switch (not unmanaged) that supports SFP+ for trunking incase you want to expand. Make sure said switch has enough power and POE+ to support the AP's you will need. Add a pactchbay to connect the cables that run through the walls, and your done
elfin socket
I dont want them to look at network storage. So theyre on a guest network.
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My IoT is on the same network because my network storage needs wifi and password
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Networked storages are password protected of course, but the less access the better.
turbid frigate
If you want to host servers get a 24U rack and just sit it on the floor by your electrical closet or something
elfin socket
Too large, needs to be wall mounted.
turbid frigate
If you want to keep VLAN's separate but want internet on both of them you will need multiple routers BTW
elfin socket
Well, iot will be wireless.
Yeah, i was thinking reusing an older but up to date router for IOT if its gets bigger.
Btw, anyone use Samsung smartthings? Does it work with uPnP off?
Is there a real difference between manage and smart switch?
turbid frigate
Big difference
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yes
turbid frigate
Unmanaged switches are only configurable with command line serial interfaces with special adapters and physical access, smart switches allow configuration over the network in generally a nice GUI
elfin socket
So if I want to manage via tablet, ubi software or Netgear Smart managed?
Gaming/meedia streaming switches are just branding, right?
I can accomplish the same thing with a properly managed plus or pro?
turbid frigate
Frankly, anything with gaming or media or content creation in the title is marketing
This is how you would have to connect two VLANS that want to both connect to the internet
elfin socket
Most of the time, its just software driven QoS?
elfin socket
“Oh hey, you are playing CoD, gonna autoassign ports to cod servers”
Can i skip one switch if I use a standard consumer router for the IOT and smartthings hub?
And i dont need more than 4 ports?
turbid frigate
You only need 1 switch
elfin socket
I figure i could always expand and isolate hard wired devices through the patch panel.
turbid frigate
you would need three routers though
the routers can be utter crap mind you
(atleast the one for IOT)
elfin socket
What kind of address scheme would you suggest?
Yeah, i got an older WNDR3700v2
Good enough for IOT, but place it behind my router?
turbid frigate
255.255.250.0 subnet mask with the second to last section being dedicated for labeling what switch / vlan stuff is connected to
elfin socket
Im still confused bt subnets and best practices for my use case.
turbid frigate
All that a router does is combine multiple IP addresses into 1 and not allow external things to access their insides unless the port is forwarded
so you can put a billion and one routers ontop of eachother
generally multiple routers are used for security. Past the first router is a web server, second router has the guest network, third router has servers + main network for example
elfin socket
When i switched ips, and my netgear router was plugged into the isp provided gateway via the WAN, i dont understand why it forced my local network devices to resign everything to 10.0.x.x.
I mean it was the WAN port.
Thats a double NAT right?
I mean i get it if it was on the other ports, but the WAN port shouldnt have had that happen.
turbid frigate
Understanding Switches will be the best video for you right now probably
elfin socket
Am I doing things properly by decribing my security concerns and my requirements first before figuring out the hardware setup?
Kinda feel like I’m ahead of my time in figuring out how to isolate IOT, and the guides havent been written yet.
turbid frigate
Yeah, TL;DR keep an IOT network separate from your normal network
even if that means having a separate AP on a separate VLAN for them
elfin socket
Yeah, thats what i was thinking too. Rather than a physical switch or router I have to buy, just a seperate AP on a vlan?
And just configure my old router as an AP?
turbid frigate
Yup
proud ridge
Oooh, any BGP enthusiasts over here?
keen sorrel
Ubiquiti SHD or a Meraki AP?
elfin socket
Hmm, can we have a "data_hoarding" channel?
would love to have a channel to discuss data organization, management, backup, storage, etc.
vagrant heath
@mystic hull ^^
mystic hull
hmm
elfin socket
Like a place to talk about SSD prices
or Hard drive prices.
I spent a month trying to decide between WD Red, Red Pro, enterprise, or HGST
vagrant heath
Also the Desc for this channel should be "Mostly speed tests"
elfin socket
"Connect EVERYTHING"
vagrant heath
Or "Almost Entirely Speed Tests"
elfin socket
make an Internet of things channel and identify the users as idIoTs
vagrant heath
But I like the idea of having a channel for storage realted stuff
fathom hound
I just got a 4TB Seagate Barricuda for $98
vagrant heath
^^
fathom hound
pretty solid drive from what I've seen
elfin socket
plus it can promote backup
fathom hound
Still need to reboot my PC so it can be recognized by windows tho
Stupid PC not seeing hotswapped SATA drives lol
(I swear I turned that on in the BIOS)
elfin socket
Hmmm, looks like costco aint showing their external drives for sale rignt now
inventory turnover or shortage?
elfin socket
Hmmm
fathom hound
(No costco membership, that might be why)
vagrant heath
I can access
elfin socket
Seagate 6TB USB 3.0 Hub $130 or 21.67 US$ TB
vagrant heath
Am not logged in
fathom hound
rip
elfin socket
dont need to be logged in
fathom hound
maybe it just hates my VPN
fathom hound
Everything hates it, but I hate putting my IP out there .-.
elfin socket
It hurts when IP
fathom hound
It's oddly enough thinner than a normal 3.5" drive
I was a bit surprised when I compared it to my 1TB WD Blue
it's like 1/5th thinner
elfin socket
maybe its just a variant of their 6TB drives and they removed a plannter?
mounting holes still are the same, right?>
fathom hound
Why wouldn't they be the same?
elfin socket
I've been thinking about getting blues just for backup, dont need the vibration or error correction of a Red
fathom hound
It's just like a normal drive with a bit shaved off the top. Mounting screws are down along the bottom
fathom hound
I love my blue, I just wish they had >1TB at 7200RPM
elfin socket
still, if its noticibly thinner, my guess is that its possibly a cut down 6 TB drive
Why not go black? larger cache on the drive.
or get a 10,000 Velociraptor
RIP DISK
fathom hound
26.1mm thick
elfin socket
SSD killed the Velociraptor
fathom hound
The 6 and 8TB versions are also only 26.1mm thick
elfin socket
maybe more efficient means less material needed?
elfin socket
I've been looking for a good system in organiging bare backup drives.
IIRC, Linus had a nightmare system of organizing them
fathom hound
Fill every letter of the alphabet, then label each one by what they contain
winged moth
@turbid frigate You could just trunk port into Router 3 without the need for router 1 or 2.
worn fjord
anyone know why i suddenly have an extra network? the DIT-NB1626063 is actually my computer name. i checked device manager is under some vwifimp, uninstall it will come back automatically
ok i checked the event timeframes its around the time when i was trying out the new screen projection feature from creator's update
foggy sand
Mesh routers installed
No more wifi dead spots + I can use my laptop wirelessly + my consoles can connect to the internet now
Also I downloaded a PUBG update at 9MB/s on my laptop, something I could never do on my old single access point setup
heavy meteor
ubiquiti?
foggy sand
Google Wifi
heavy meteor
ahh okay
foggy sand
Upgraded from Netgear Nighthawk R7000
foggy sand
Gonna need to do a 30-30-30 reset on it before I sell it
proud ridge
Is there a market for tunneled public v4 addresses?
Over GRE/OpenVPN/WireGuard/IPSec/IPIP etc...
rare ember
i try to avoid mesh networks where possible, there performance isnt actually great
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Why?
rare ember
well in comparison to multiple wired access points, you have to rely on access point -> access point wireless communication, which although has gotten better (since more recent devices now have dedicated intra access point radios) still doesnt compare to being a wired node
but thats just me, if i can wire it in, im going to do so
rocky badge
Yeah but the performance loss is not noticable or there is none.
Plus some people cannot run Ethernet in their house
rare ember
yeah true, i just like my 1gbit between devices
coupled with my (soon to be) gigabit internet
rocky badge
I get ~400-200 Mbit link speed on WiFi
rare ember
and ive yet to find a wifi network that can give me any where close to a 1gbit speed
rocky badge
I'll run into WiFi card speed limits before you get to gigabit. 860 Mbit
rare ember
yep, so i wire in everything i can
xbox ps4 my tvs
the only wired devices i have are ones that move
phones, laptops
rare ember
its useable
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on my laptop
rare ember
hmmm im curious, im using ubiquiti at work, for some reason when i connect to one of our SSIDs (all on the same AP's) i get 200+mbit yet on another one i get less than 100
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gigabit is a bottleneck https://ryois.me/i/e9a97259e.png
rare ember
until 10gbit comes down in price at least :p
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lol
thick minnow
Xd
twin slate
Hello guys and girls. Any good recomendations on a PCI-E network card for a desktop? My built in network port is failing 😦 I've tried looking for Intel cards, but there are so many models that it's hard to understand what to buy and not overpay. Also, i'm under linux most of the time, so it should have good linux support
the onlyPCI-E card I found under 50 eur is this: https://www.1a.lv/datoru_komponentes_tikla_produkti/tikla_produkti_ar_vadiem/tikla_kartes/intel_1gb_ct_expi9301ctblk_expi9301ctblk893647
(there are others, but they are regular PCI 😄 )
I have no idea what's the diff between them
fathom hound
I don't remember the model number, but there's a solid TP-Link wifi card (three antennas) that costs about $30 USD. Not sure about linux support on it though.
I used it in my PC for just under a year until I could run ethernet to it, never had an issue with it afaik
twin slate
ethernet
twin slate
I actually searched around a bit and bought this:
proud ridge
Although the Intel 1000PT will be fine
twin slate
twin slate
it's top choice on many reviews
haha, try finding that damn card here in the first place
had to buy from a more upscale shop
others just didn't had it at all
proud ridge
proud ridge
twin slate
nah, I already paid for it
twin slate
I also paying via business, so there are tax considirations 😃
proud ridge
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I just like quad NiCs
If you like Mellanox gear there's some great stuff you can buy at the moment
twin slate
😄
proud ridge
I'm networking my home hypervisors with those atm
twin slate
I don't need it for a server
proud ridge
10Gbps for < €15
twin slate
my built in motherboard RJ-45 just fails 😄
proud ridge
😦
twin slate
I'm rare breed that has his desktop on linux :d
proud ridge
In future keep an eye out for Intel i350 cards - they sometimes go really cheaply and have four ports
Not a rare breed 😉
We're common
We just hide
twin slate
okay, but I doubt I'll need a new card in next 5 years 😄
proud ridge
LTT seems to have a predominently Windows-based fanbase though unfortunately 😦
twin slate
well, it's a top-notch cpu inside that thing
that's a flagship desktop card from intel
twin slate
let's just say my experience with these in the past was good 😃
I have a 100 mbit connection to outside
😄
twin slate
And I don't have an internal network with servers and crap 😄
proud ridge
That's fine
thick minnow
Oh k
twin slate
I may not have 200 Mbit/s down, but I have a symetrical 100/100 😛 dedicated.... for 17 eur/month
😄
proud ridge
Yeah
thick minnow
RIP
proud ridge
That's a good price 😂
twin slate
Europe
thick minnow
I want 1Gig down and up XD
twin slate
North-East europe to be specific 😃
twin slate
twin slate
http://www.speedtest.net/result/7018383453 Across most of the Europe ~2k miles away 😃
to france
proud ridge
Not bad
twin slate
http://www.speedtest.net/result/7018385624 Across the pond 😃
this one is really what's impressive 😃
and no, I don't have vanity traceroutes 😃
twin slate
1?: [LOCALHOST] pmtu 1500
1: Linksys02205 0.516ms
1: Linksys02205 0.477ms
2: 185.72.84.1 3.267ms
3: static-91.203.71.128.nano.lv 10.820ms
4: 91.203.69.93 3.589ms
5: 78.28.193.98 3.541ms
6: riga-b1-link.telia.net 3.158ms
7: s-bb4-link.telia.net 12.822ms
8: ffm-bb4-link.telia.net 42.779ms
9: ffm-b12-link.telia.net 37.445ms
10: vultr-ic-312911-ffm-b12.c.telia.net 36.059ms
11: no reply
12: vul-core1.fra.de.jack.network 48.669ms
13: vul-core1.fra.de.jack.network 43.109ms pmtu 1476
13: vmh-core1.lon.gb.jack.network 45.164ms reached
Resume: pmtu 1476 hops 13 back 11
work in Vultr? 😃
proud ridge
Telia
Nice
Narp, just announcing my space there because I needed some extra IPs on a few VMs
Well
Anycasting there
But
I really should move away from them
I only use them in Frankfurt
Use Hostio and Devcapsule in Netherlands and VMHaus, M247 and IOMart in the UK
No one in France yet 😦
twin slate
I use OVH servers to host Factorio servers 😃 It's in France
best spot latency wise for EU players 😃
twin slate
also nice from USA , both coasts
thick minnow
I am 45 mins away from ams XD
proud ridge
You on Windows?
thick minnow
Yes
thick minnow
Doing it RN
proud ridge
I prefer mtr but mtr is a pain on windows
twin slate
have an IPv6?
proud ridge
Yeah
twin slate
gimme
proud ridge
2a0b:3c47:a0::1
2a0b:3c47:a1::1
2a0b:3c47:a2::1
Hopefully those will go in over different upstreams
thick minnow
thick minnow
Why tho ?
proud ridge
Why do I hate Cogent?
thick minnow
^
proud ridge
They're great for inter-DC stuff where you have NOC constantly maintaining route
twin slate
idk if provider supports full ipv6, gonna ask 😃
twin slate
otherwise LinkSys EA6400 has ipv6 section
proud ridge
rbx
thick minnow
Yup
proud ridge
sounds like OVH
thick minnow
It is
twin slate
ahm it's on auto, so provider just does not give an ipv6 😃
thick minnow
Its my plex/Gaming server
thick minnow
Yes it is
twin slate
I have too many things to care besides my network
proud ridge
2a0b:3c47::/32
proud ridge
Nice
proud ridge
Aww
thick minnow
XD
proud ridge
I hate dev'ing for it
twin slate
you know - when you can do a thing in thousand methods - that's just bad design 😄
proud ridge
but in general it's very scalable
twin slate
I prefer to work with Vagrant
twin slate
Have my own custom provisioner that does what I need in a single click
thick minnow
LOl all my 5th requests time out
twin slate
no, HashiCorp
proud ridge
Nice
thick minnow
twin slate
it's a VM manager basically with provisioning
proud ridge
@thick minnow they just don't respond to ICMP on those
thick minnow
Rip
twin slate
no, linux
proud ridge
HyperV tho
proud ridge
Hahahah I bet
twin slate
the only downside if you are on Windows - need to install NFS server in windows 😄
twin slate
but I kind'a migrated to *nix because turned out I have everything I need just working 😃
twin slate
except OBS, OBS has a bad implementation with mouse key shortcuts, so it only knows mouse 1 to 3 and that's it
proud ridge
At least when a server breaks running Linux
twin slate
so streaming from windows 😄
twin slate
it's not a user system
it's pure networking servers
that's best use of it
everything else is mediocre
Wana real sex and satisfaction - pick up Gentoo
😄
my first linux 😄
into the deep end right from the start
proud ridge
I think I jumped in at Debian 4
thick minnow
Most are timed out
proud ridge
mtr prem ^
twin slate
ubuntu is for pussies 😄
thick minnow
So
proud ridge
thick minnow
I like it XD
proud ridge
just no ICMP on hop 19/23
thick minnow
Lol 6 times the same address
proud ridge
where?
proud ridge
London
Boston
Alabama
Cleveland
Somewhere beginning with Ord
weird route
I wonder whether amazon.co.uk is better
A little
Amazon need to sort out their rDNS
thick minnow
XD
thick minnow
😮
thick minnow
😮
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thick minnow
Rips
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twin slate
what't the url for that?
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twin slate
Wana see what my state for ipv6 is
proud ridge
thick minnow
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all of my domain PCs have v6 turned off
thick minnow
XD
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thick minnow
Pizza rule #1 No pineapple anywhere near the pizza
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only 6to4
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yeah
proud ridge
Is that like TomatoWRT or whatever?
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Its the only custom firmware thats easy to install on my R7000
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lol
thick minnow
DAMNson.jpg
thick minnow
Oh gosh
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crap I forgot my password for ssh https://ryois.me/i/cbb1245e5.png
thick minnow
Thats a problem
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thick minnow
😮
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It's a VM
thick minnow
Oh
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Anything is possible
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Yeah
proud ridge
Virtio?
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It's pfsense in Hyper V
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Lol
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I use it because it's built into windows server
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I would either get edgerouter or pfsense
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Edgerouter isn't consumer...
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Our school users Cisco
thick minnow
I wanna make dis one day XD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM_KMYulI_s
I use netgear atm
thick minnow
No problems with it
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Same
twin slate
that burger is epic 😃
thick minnow
IK
thick minnow
Just send my friend a message make dis for me pl0x
proud ridge
Let's find a second hand one shall we?
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Our school has $5,000+ switches
thick minnow
Outch
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Eh
proud ridge
thick minnow
oof
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2-4 21Gbit ports. 4 10GbE, 48GbE, and 2 Combo
twin slate
dat shipping cost 😄
proud ridge
They retail at £45k for the base MX960 or something crazy
Yeah, comes on a pallet xD
How the hell does anyone afford that?!
xD
Clouvider have some I think
proud ridge
They like Juniper gear
thick minnow
Rip
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I wanna go egderouter and UniFi
thick minnow
Sec
proud ridge
I've just bought a shitty Netgear switch
proud ridge
they are
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You can't but cheap
twin slate
switches are relatively straight forward 😃
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One switch can link aggergate at 1.7Tbit at school
proud ridge
Depends whether you like slitting your wrists
how can one school push 1.7 Tbit?
even internally
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Idk
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Over 3000pcs using our gigabit connection (s)?
proud ridge
The whole UK Academic Network has a national 200 Gbps backbone
for all schools and universities
all of them
JANET
😄
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We use ENA and they can give 10Gbit
proud ridge
Youtube pulls peak 20 Mbps
thick minnow
Xeon E3 QuadCore 32Gb DDR3 Ram 2TB Hdd storage in raid
proud ridge
Yes
thick minnow
Couldn't copy paste my machine specs from the control panel for some reason
proud ridge
The bitrate is only 20 Mbps so it'll average to 20 Mbps with burst of linespeed
thick minnow
Its a xeon 1231V3
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I have dxdiags from school PCs.
proud ridge
How much monthly @thick minnow?
thick minnow
For 80 euro's
proud ridge
Hm
I've finished using a E3-1240v2 with 32GB RAM + 2x1TB HDD in Online.net if you wanna have that instead
I think I'm paying 20 EUR
Lemme check
Unmetered 500 Mbit commit on 1 Gbit
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at 4:00 when almost everyone was home and pcs were off https://ryois.me/i/39ba7ed5c.png
thick minnow
damnson
proud ridge
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thick minnow
Yeah i need more harddrive space then XD
proud ridge
Only 128Gbps switching fabric
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first device ip wise, the domain controller https://ryois.me/i/a1afbd4e2.png
proud ridge
Not that good
thick minnow
😮
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another school https://ryois.me/i/cc5394a94.png
at a convention center. https://ryois.me/i/1d504cd5d.png
thick minnow
Going to bed CYA
thick minnow
XD
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at a doctors office https://ryois.me/i/5ee0cdf34.png
thick minnow
Damnit just shutdown my pc with an job application open without sending it fuck
vagrant heath
@thick minnow RIP
ashen lily
completely wrong channel
thick minnow
Xd
thick minnow
Its okay tho i rewrote it and send it about an hour ago 😄
fathom hound
thick minnow
Lol
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what heppened?
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lol
rare ember
how is that even possible
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idk
lean pollen
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ye
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yup
turbid frigate
We cannot go back in time, only forward. You have just doomed us all
agile basin
if we go forward fast enough we go backwards
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😃 😃 😃
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YE
agile basin
lol
elfin socket
I can inspect it in the warehouse.
rare ember
also depends if theres any licensing issues too
elfin socket
Prices look about the same as market, right?
rare ember
ive got a few old catalysts here in the office im tempted to take one home
elfin socket
rare ember
if you can get that first one for less than 500 id say its definitely a bargain
just bare in mind power requirements for stuff like that :p
and noise
OMG the noise
rare ember
ive always been tempted to buy a few old servers
but they are soooo frigging loud
it would have to go in a basement
or soundproof room
elfin socket
and you still need to supply airflow
rare ember
(even my razor blade i can hear in other rooms if the fans are whirring)
elfin socket
LOL even seismic isolaters
Well, theres a lot to choose from. Honestly I'm looking for a half height one. or maybe rack mount half of it and use the rest as basically a big ass cabinet
seems like they got a bunch of them. nice for each one to get its own photo. RIP the intern who took the horribly focused pics though
wow, are cat 6 patch cables in this length really that price?
I'm searching through this page, apparently someone lucked out and got a fluke network tester for $40
https://surplus.ucsd.edu/LotImages/117326-0.JPG
Flue Intellitone pro 200 tester for $50, good deal?
dapper goblet
I use ethernet from from my router and it is a CAT5E at 50 ft. I am not getting a third of our advertised speeds? Any ideas?
It is plugged into the router
should it been in the modem?
elfin socket
@dapper goblet Do a speedtest directly from the modem first.
Then use a different cable
dapper goblet
The cable runs under my house
elfin socket
Then speed test through the router through both cables.
elfin socket
you cant unplug the router, and plug in yourcomputer?
you need to remove the router from between
elfin socket
Also if your connection isn't 100%, like theres a bend, or the wire is damaged, you're connection speed is going to step down
dapper goblet
OH
elfin socket
just make sure you got your antivirus and firewall up
native kettle
Who wants to laugh??
Dis the "router" I use as my daily driver:
http://www.trendnet.com/support/supportdetail.asp?prod=145_TW100-S4W1CA
vagrant heath
🔫
native kettle
cant be hacked wirelessly, if u aint got no wireless.
subtle light
anyone in here use mcafee drive encryption? I need to find out wtf USB Transfer Error means
unreal wedge
Can't personally recommend McAfee. They've done shady things to their customers.
thick minnow
^
winter cobalt
Is Malwarebytes any good?
thick minnow
And i dont like it because it consumed way more resources then needed
unreal wedge
@winter cobalt I personally use them
I've seen videos that they don't catch every little thing, but I don't trust those videos, and I use common sense when on the internet.
winter cobalt
I use it too just wondering if they've done anything bad before.
unreal wedge
i.e. Don't download a file named "Totally_not_a_virus.exe"
And no, they've not been shady.
winter cobalt
ok, thank you.
unreal wedge
They did have a bugged update a few weeks ago that used CPU resources terribly, but they've since patched that.
unreal wedge
Keep in mind that Malwarebytes is in a sort of beta-like state at the moment. While good, they're not a known as some titans.
winter cobalt
ok
unreal wedge
@winter cobalt autocorrect is on fire today. Meant to say beta, not "net". Get a grip autocorrect or I'm disabling you.
winter cobalt
k
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I wish more people chatted in here 
ashen lily
i wish people would use real english
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Lol
thick minnow
Lol
lost parcel
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yes... its, the "internet"
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lol