#networking

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plain fog
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I mean, that speed is around about what I max out at and it costs me like $30/mo.. for comparison

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that's crazy

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I wonder if they do business plans that are any different

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or if it's just the infrastructure in the area

thick minnow
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im on a business plan

plain fog
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oh

thick minnow
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thats the funny thing

plain fog
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aren't they meant to give a certain level of service..

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that's even more mad

thick minnow
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welcome to the land down under

plain fog
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True true

thick minnow
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they dont need to throttle our speeds the infrestructure does it for us

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its so bad im considering moving to another country just to get better internet

thick minnow
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@plain fog please remove that pai face i am triggered when i see it. Put a picture of a dog there everyone loves dogs :D

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lol

tawdry musk
thick minnow
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Yay

rocky badge
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what about mine?

thick minnow
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That one is fine

rocky badge
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its also my Windows login...

tawdry musk
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what the balls

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tawdry musk
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oh my

silver prairie
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is 50mbit 500gb a month for $200 a good deal?

plain fog
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I want to change my profile picture but it's not part of my plan..

winged moth
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@thick minnow What about running a speedtest? Maybe the steam server you connect to happens to be shit.

thick minnow
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Lol i pay 73 dollars for 200 down and 20 up and unlimited usage 😄

rocky badge
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I pay like 200$ for 120/7, TV, and Phone

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unlimited too

winged moth
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$120 for 150/150 with unlimited data.

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$90 with 1TB data.

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I could pay something from AT&T that more expesnive and get 10/? and 1TB data

winged moth
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Pretty soon the 250/250 service should be showing up and that's supposed to be $130 with an additional $15 for the unlimited data.

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Shoing up = available to where I live. Not sure if I'll bget it since I barely cap 150/150 as is.

thick minnow
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@winged moth speedtests dont even load thats how bad it is

winged moth
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Holy crap.

rocky badge
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soon™ we should get fiber from our ™ co-op and hopefuly no net neutrality bs? idk...

thick minnow
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easy way to put it i use my mobile data for everything

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whilst still paying for the connection

winged moth
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Ouch.

rocky badge
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lol

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hahaha

winged moth
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And yeah. I'm really hoping that up in Canada we don't get fucked by the net nutrality stuff going on in the states right now.

rocky badge
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😃 😃 😃

tawdry musk
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we pay 65 for 80 down 10 up unlimited

thick minnow
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I pay £70/month for 40 down, 2 up with unlimited

exotic smelt
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Anyone have any experience with OpenVPN? Im rather new to it and running into an odd issue. Google-fu has failed me so I am here.

thick minnow
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I used it for a few weeks on my VPS until I had to reset my VPS (to fix my webserver)

fathom hound
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Well this is balls

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Using a legit weather sealed coax cable, all connections are secure, still getting >50dBmV power levels on the upstream connection from my modem

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Connection was perfect at the pole though

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Guess I'll replace the cable inside the house next

vagrant heath
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Could it not be other peoples shit cable. Because That was the excuse that Comcast gave me after replaceing the cable from the pole to house and house to modem and sill had weak upstream

fathom hound
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I'm gonna try the house -> modem cable, only other point of failure I can think of.

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No other stuff connected to the line other than the modem

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Probably just gonna say fuck it and use that as an opportunity to relocate the modem as well

winged moth
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I'm guessing you confirmed the cable you installed was showing no issues?

spice dagger
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I'm fighting with my Network right now. I have a high ping every 20-30min. What settings should I change? There is for example Gigabit Master/Slave Mode, Large Send Offload or und Jumbo Frames. What should I enable or disable? I have an Intel i211-at.

winged moth
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What is the rest of your network made of? Might be another device getting overloaded.

kindred girder
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Just purchased torGuard. So happy

deep verge
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I had problems with periodic high ping, my router was overheating.

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Put a fan on it, problems stopped.

winged moth
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^^^

deep verge
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Built pfsense router, and bought sb6141 modem, and no problems sense.

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@spice dagger

winged moth
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Most home use stuff isn't designed for at all constant use at high throughput.

deep verge
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Nope

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But this stuff sure is.

winged moth
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Yeah.

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Going high end prosumer/enterprise is awesome.

deep verge
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My router is a decommissioned server

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Hp Ml110

winged moth
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Not bad.

deep verge
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G4

winged moth
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Oh wow.

deep verge
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It was free.

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It's also getting replaced by my old board and CPU here soon.

winged moth
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Although that's a 1U so it's probably fairly noisy.

deep verge
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It's a tower

winged moth
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Ahh. That works.

deep verge
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Old board being a z77 mpower, CPU being a 3770k

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Sightly better

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Only problem I've had of that my pfsense is slightly corrupted, and won't update and randomly restarts.

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But I blame the HDD for that.

winged moth
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I might be getting one of those used when my friend's work decomissions a set of them.

deep verge
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nuice

thick minnow
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So I did not knew when I ordered this you need 2 seperate cables running from your router to this, is it okay for me to just wire up 1?

rocky badge
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you know its sad on the pcpartpicker you're making when the most expensive thing is the nic and its only 400$....

deep verge
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hmm?

rocky badge
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i was playing with what I could make a pfsense router out of.

deep verge
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i built one for like $250

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the case+PSU was $80 beacuse i got a super SFF case

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high needle
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Anyone know if 3 of these would be able to connect 2 desktops in different rooms with a gigabit connection through an extention lead?

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cedar cradle
fathom hound
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oh that's neat

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Wouldn't trust it though, it's really inaccurate

thick minnow
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200/20 XD

agile basin
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it's sending it to DC... too far away

halcyon steeple
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@agile basin How much do you pay?

agile basin
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~&130 for internet, TV, and home phone

halcyon steeple
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i feel like that is cheap

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idk

agile basin
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It is

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We technically only pay for 75/75

high needle
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You guys are lucky

agile basin
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Verizon upgraded us to 150/150, then 300/300, then 750/750, then we had a bit of trouble with Verizon Wireless, and they upgraded us to gigabit

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ALL for FREE

high needle
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Im paying for bt infinity 2 76mb/s

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And those are the speeds I get 😂

agile basin
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I used to have that on COX.... ^^^^

high needle
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The best we have in my area is bt

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Only others are sky, talk talk and plusnet

halcyon steeple
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wow i pay like 45-65 don't know real price in Spectrum for 70mbps Download and 5.5 mbps Upload

high needle
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Yeah unless you get business broadband speeds are shit in my area

halcyon steeple
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First was like img is super fast now i feel that is kind of slow

agile basin
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Lol

high needle
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And my area doesnt have virgin media

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So im stuck with those speeds

agile basin
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Ah rip

high needle
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That is literally the fastest broadband I can get

halcyon steeple
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But is atleast 20mbps stable?

high needle
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Im using asus router as well over 5ghz so that isnt slowing it down

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Yeah its pretty stable

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Sometimes goes down to 15

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Sometimes its 25

agile basin
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isn't sad when internet goes down to 500Mbps

halcyon steeple
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well you be glad because i have friends that pay for 20 and they necer get 20

agile basin
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Rip

high needle
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Well I payed for 76mb/s

halcyon steeple
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they pay for 20 to get guaranted 10-15

high needle
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I was gauranteed 50

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Getting 20

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And on old plan

halcyon steeple
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Damn

high needle
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Was still getting 20

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On old 24mb/s

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I thought download cap was the problem but obviously not

halcyon steeple
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They told in Spectrum that because where i live i cannot recieve 100 they are gonna charge me for 50 but i'm actually getting 70

high needle
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Aha lol great deal

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We used to be on bthub3 but it was shit and after 5 years upgraded to an asus router

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Its much more reliable and can get over 3mb/s transfer to network drive

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Finalyl

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I did get a bthub5 sent to our house but that was even worse wifi constantly kept cutting out

halcyon steeple
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Feels bad man and i tought that living in a first world country will get better internet than back when i was living in mexico

high needle
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Well im in uk so yeah

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As soon as I start transfering loads of small files to network drive speed drops to 500kb/s

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😂

agile basin
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rip

high needle
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The wifi connection is reliable but the speed is so inconsistant I so want to hardwire my desktop

halcyon steeple
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Back in mexico or atleast in they i'm from the max you can get in the whole city is 20 but they cant guaranted 20 because they said "You can pay for 20 but we might not be able to deliver 20 because of saturation of the nwtwork blablablabla"

high needle
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Aha I never really bothered to complain about my slower than promised speeds they wont do anything about it

halcyon steeple
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if you pay for 10 never get 10 max 7-8 and pay 20 to get 10-15 speeds

high needle
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And if you pay for 76 you get 20 apparently

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😂

halcyon steeple
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Yeah haha

high needle
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Lol you can get a fiber cable rolled out to your house without going through fiber box

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But by then you might as well buy a server and make your own internet

halcyon steeple
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Well idk how to do that but sure

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let's make a better internet

high needle
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😂

agile basin
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oh

fossil estuary
agile basin
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OwO

fossil estuary
agile basin
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looks similar to a neural network map

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still dope though

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router->switch->computers

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my quality network

rocky badge
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I wanna get Ubiquiti gear...

fossil estuary
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Ugh

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ERLite-3 or ER8?

agile basin
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What makes that map?

fossil estuary
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@rocky badge Got a USG3 for now, gonna upgrade to a USG-HD-4 when that releases.

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Got my parents and grandparents house all wired up with my hand-me-downs.

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Gives me a good excuse to buy the new gear 😂

rocky badge
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will the ER3 good?

fossil estuary
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The ERLite3 is the same underlying hardware as the USG3.

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And the USG3 keeps up just fine (Been able to max out 1000/1000 at full duplex over the WAN)

rocky badge
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ok

fossil estuary
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Had to run 4 uploads and 4 downloads to Google Drive (2 hops away from me) to max out the upload and download at the same time.

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@agile basin It's in the unifi controller interface.

agile basin
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Makes sense

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Should i replace my Verizon gigabit router with a aftermarket one?

fathom hound
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yes

agile basin
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But with what though?

fathom hound
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a real router

fossil estuary
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@agile basin I prefer ubiquiti, but literally anything is probably better than that.

agile basin
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i mean... it's not bad per-say

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the wifi-reach is kinda shit though

fossil estuary
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If you're just running a flat network (no VLANs) you really don't need anything fancy at all from a router.

agile basin
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what's a VLAN and why are they good/bad?

fathom hound
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They're basically a separate virtual network

fossil estuary
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I'm a big fan of seperating the roles of the traditional "wireless router", also.
"Wireless Router" = Router + Switch + Access Point

fathom hound
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so you could have many devices hooked up to the same switch, but only certain groups could see eachother

agile basin
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Oh ok

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that makes sense

fossil estuary
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Yep @fathom hound nailed it on the head.

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It's for segmenting your network devices.

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I use VLANs to keep all my IoT gear off my main network.

agile basin
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ooooh. so that way the network discovery doesn't get crowded?

fossil estuary
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That's one bonus I guess. The reason most people do it is for security / access control reasons.

agile basin
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oooh. ok, that makes sense

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thnaks

fossil estuary
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I don't want my chinese wifi lightbulbs being able to steal shit off my NAS, for example.

fathom hound
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lol

agile basin
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lol

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why not???????

fossil estuary
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Those are my bits!

meager hazel
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Lol

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fathom hound
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Should be alright, I'd check reviews around the internet a bit tho

rocky badge
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Ok. I was looking at UniFi USGs too I might get one of those though

gritty owl
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Yeah, the Edgerouter X or Lite is a good router. The USG is alright as well. I got a USG Pro-4 and unfortunately lucked out and got the one that was defective. Currently on RMA.

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@agile basin Which verizon router do you have? I have the Quantum Gateway and it's alright. Yeah, the wireless isn't so good. I installed two Ubiquiti AC-pro APs and turned off the Wi-Fi on the Quantum Gateway.
Works pretty well.
I was close to killing off the Verizon router but my new USG Pro-4 ended up being faulty (My luck you know...). I also plan to buy some fiber and drag the ONT from outside and bring it inside to the top of my server rack.

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and if you have any verizon set top boxes, you will need to have the verizon router plugged in or have moca coax to ethernet adapters so the set top boxes can grab TV guide data

broken briar
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Guys, there's a Ubiquiti discord server if you're interested

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I dm'd you the invite 😃

agile basin
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No i just need to have the verizon router in-line with the aftermarket one and just diable most of its features?

high anchor
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@broken briar I'd be definetly intersted to have an invite !

rocky badge
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Why is this even still an option?

high anchor
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Because some ADSL internet connection still require login (in France, Orange gives you login IDs for 3rd party routers)

rocky badge
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oh

gritty owl
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@broken briar Oh haha, I deletd your invite thinking it was spam. I didn't see this. I'm already in the ubiquiti server though. haha.

livid hawk
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@broken briar Mind if I get an invite to the Ubiquiti group? Just upgraded my network to a full unifi setup.

thick minnow
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IS there a website where I can check how many people visit a particular website on a daily or monthly basis?@everyone

vagrant heath
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Is it your website

broken briar
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probably

foggy sand
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So, because my room is a wireless dead zone, we're lookig at replacing our single router setup with a mesh networking setup.

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Most likely Google Wifi

winged moth
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What kind of access point are you using currently?

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Is it possible to get a more powerful AP and/or put an AP right next to your room with a wired connection?

foggy sand
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Netgear Nighthawk R7000

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Thing is, I'm very far away from it and there's a ton of things degrading the wireless signal.

foggy sand
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Mesh networking might be the best solution for wireless in my home.

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Because after the kitchen, there's a huge dead zone.

winged moth
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No chance for a wired solution? Even if it's wired to another AP nearby. mesh is unfortunately still impacted by the same issues that impact wireless.

foggy sand
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I use Powerline for my desktop and laptop, so there's some form of wired going on.

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It's not ideal tho, I'd prefer a direct line from the router to my room, but... gotta deal until I move out I guess.

winged moth
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What is your internet speed?

foggy sand
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185Mbps down, 85Mbps up

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Not 100% sure tho

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But that's what I get on speed test sites

winged moth
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Could look at setting up a 2.4GHz point to point solution although most of those cap out around 100Mb/s and that's mostly only theoretical rather than constant.

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But it would most likely be able to punch through the walls and other obstructuctions unless you have basically a faraday cage in the way.

foggy sand
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We've tried repeaters before.

winged moth
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I'm using a 5GHz point to point. It's not optimal but it's damnned quick.

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No, not repeaters. Like industrial point to point.

foggy sand
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They drop connection a lot and ultimately were just more trouble than they were worth

winged moth
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That kind of thing.

foggy sand
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Ah

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Probably too expensive for us, we're on a... pretty limited budget.

winged moth
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Yeah, they're not cheap, but they work really well.

foggy sand
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We'd have a higher budget for networking equipment but we're redoing the kitchen and that's been wicked expensive.

winged moth
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Just make sure you don't try and get the max speed by cranking the power because you can overheat them by having such high power at close range.

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But take a look at the third picture in that set, ~300Mb/s transmit and receive.

foggy sand
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Not bad.

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Honestly if I had a bigger budget I'd consider that more.

winged moth
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And I've managed to push that to 450 with proper allignment, better tuning of the frequency, and better power management.

foggy sand
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But, alas, I don't, because I have the budgeting skills of a garden hose.

winged moth
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Yeah, it was a definate budget consideration, but at the time I was using a bridged AP and it was rather frustrating and nearly unusable.

foggy sand
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Hah, try using just one router in a specific part of the house

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Everything is great in that part of the house but terribad everywhere else.

winged moth
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I run a couple of servers off of a switch so I can't use wifi adaptors. Thus using a bridged AP to a switch to provide network access for them.

foggy sand
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Also the house being from 1954 but you're in a part that was added in 2004 and is on its own electrical circuit.

winged moth
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That's almost exactly the kind of situation I'm in. I'm on a new breaker box which makes powerline basically not an option.

foggy sand
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Honestly, I'd love hardline directly from the router to my PC but that isn't an option right now.

winged moth
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Same.

foggy sand
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When I get my own place I am definitely skipping powerline and connecting my PC directly to the router.

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So much throughput loss, I'm amazed I can stream games as well as I can.

winged moth
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I'm in a rental though so I can't make holes in the walls/floors and if I wanted to run a cable it would have to go through the front entrance.

foggy sand
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Well... I might still use powerline for the Steam Link.

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But all PCs will use wired when possible.

winged moth
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Yeah, I'm thinking about a fiber backbone if I can convince my landlasy to let me put some small holes in the floor.

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Smaller connector and smaller cables means it's easier to hide.

foggy sand
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I'm gonna need to get my future husband used to the idea of connecting things with an Ethernet cable, heh.

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He's too used to wireless.

winged moth
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Wireless isn't terrible, just a sub optimal solution if wired is available.

foggy sand
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yeah

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Thankfully we're both IT guys so I'm not speaking a foreign language when I talk nerd to him ^.~

winged moth
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What does he do in IT that he prefers wireless over wired?

foggy sand
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He used an aging HP laptop and a phone as his daily driver machines for a long time

winged moth
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Ahh.

foggy sand
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He recently built a PC, with my help ofc

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Since his network is designed around wireless, he can't use wired.

winged moth
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So just out of a necessity rather than prefernce it would seem.

foggy sand
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yeah

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Honestly I'm glad he's IT too, trying to explain tech things to my parents is a nightmare.

winged moth
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Yep.

foggy sand
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They grew up in an era when all of these things we have now didn't exist.

winged moth
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Tiresome having to explain the same things over and over just to tell them about stuff happening at work or something.

foggy sand
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Although

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My mom's learned some things at least

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My dad is... slow and stubborn.

winged moth
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Yeah, my parents are doing a pretty good job of keeping up with consumer stuff like Facebook, basic home networking, backups, stuff like that.

foggy sand
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My dad's an attorney who still uses an iPhone 4.

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With no lock password.

winged moth
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oh...

foggy sand
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My mom, at least, knows how to keep her iPhone 6S+ secure.

winged moth
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Is he a bigger part of the firm or something? I feel like their IT team would be bullying him into upgrading him if he's low in the pecking order.

foggy sand
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Well, his name is kinda on the law office's front sign.

winged moth
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Yeah.

foggy sand
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But not in the big letters.

winged moth
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Still, if your name is on the sign, you're big enough for IT to avoid wanting to pester you.

foggy sand
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He keeps insisting "it's fine"

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He also has no concept of keeping passwords secure and will blurt out the wireless password in public.

winged moth
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I mean a major factor of it is physical security, but it's so easy to lose your phone or have it stolen that you would want some protection from access if it's removed from your posession.

foggy sand
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I still can't believe that we were at this busy restaurant earlier this year and talking about password stuff, and he just blurted out the password for his Apple ID.

winged moth
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Well did he also say his Apple ID?

foggy sand
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No, thankfully

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But still.

winged moth
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kYV>pwSY&c9B[JxkRR3j

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That's my password.

foggy sand
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narpassword

winged moth
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Not for Discord, but it's a password that I use.

foggy sand
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That's my password c:

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(It's not, but it is a password for the OG Metroid)

winged moth
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As long as you don't use the same password for everything, it doesn't hurt to have it dispersed. Especially if it's for an unknown account. In this case an unknown account on an unknown service without knowing an immense amount about me, it would be impossible to use that to break into the account anyways.

foggy sand
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He uses the same password for everything.

winged moth
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I used to. Keypass+dropbox is awesome.

foggy sand
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But, I digress. This is getting off-topic.

winged moth
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Automatically sync between my phone and computer, easy generation of passwords, and it can automatically type out passwords allowing easy login. Basically all of my accounts use their own password of similar or greater complexity now.

foggy sand
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So, anyway

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It's looking like mesh networking is the best wireless solution for my house

winged moth
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Yeah, hopefully you find a good solution for your wifi issues.

foggy sand
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I hope so too

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I'd like to be able to use my shiny new Switch on the internet, after all

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As in, the Nintendo console, not the networking hardware.

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Although I have both now.

torn stump
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My parents can't even don't even use an automatic back up. While I've a storage server for my own 😃 they don't trust such servers 😒

runic chasm
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I'm looking to move to another house and i want to check their internet speed before moving.
Unfortunately there's only a 3g/4g connection available.
I totally understand that it is not reliable and speed/ping may change a lot.
i want to check possible speeds before moving so i was wandering, is there a speed test tool that will check connection for a long period of time(24 hours) with log. Or is there a way to set it up myself?

high anchor
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You could use the script version of Speedtest.net, a cron job to run each X mins and log it to a file, then do the math with Excel

runic chasm
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i suck at scripting, but i'll look into that. thanks

agile basin
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Is the netgear orbi good? or should i go linksys?

rocky badge
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linksys

agile basin
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Or.... Ubiquiti

rocky badge
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^^

turbid frigate
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or Cisco if you really want stability

hearty nest
runic chasm
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wow, why pings are so terrible?

winged moth
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Wireless. Testing against a server a long ways away. terrible ISP.

hallow vortex
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Will 80/80 up/down do for streaming?

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720p/1080p :?

high anchor
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5Mbps up is enough for 1080p60 so yeah you are fine

hallow vortex
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OBS has been fcking up lately so just wondered x)

high anchor
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That's why I prefer XSplit (and its interface)

hallow vortex
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costs money tho xdxd

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its good tho.

rocky badge
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google's speedtest is not really accurate with ping

hearty nest
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@hallow vortex if you are doing a 720p stream you can use XSplit as it does not use its watermark for that res (I think)

toxic quartz
agile basin
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Is this a challenge???

toxic quartz
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i think xD

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long live fiber

agile basin
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yueet

toxic quartz
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how much do you pay?

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i heared internet in USA is not cheap

agile basin
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umm ~$130 for tv/internet/phone

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Technically only pay for 75/75

toxic quartz
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wow

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that not cheap

agile basin
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but we got like 5 free upgrades within 6 months

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It's for ballin' internet, Good tv, and home phone i guess

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It's pretty cheap

toxic quartz
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we pay 90€

agile basin
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but just for internet

toxic quartz
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no

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tv and phone

agile basin
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O

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heck

toxic quartz
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and i have own modem choice

agile basin
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is that euros?

toxic quartz
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my ISP support that

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Yes

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with Tax

agile basin
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so $107.56

toxic quartz
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Yes

agile basin
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nvm

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forget i said that

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but... 4ms ping

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HAH

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i get 1 ms

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and unlimited data on mobile phones

toxic quartz
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but normal ISP with internet phone and tv cost arround 40€

agile basin
#

and no data caps

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so im happy

toxic quartz
#

fiber

agile basin
#

currently downloading many things so

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OH. its going to a different server

toxic quartz
#

but we have net neutrality

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😃

agile basin
#

glad i still have my canadian citizenship

toxic quartz
#

haha

agile basin
#

not in spain you don't

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or is it portugal?

toxic quartz
#

idk

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don't live there

agile basin
#

But... you should YOU LIVE IN EUROPE
🤔

toxic quartz
#

Yes

agile basin
#

🤔

toxic quartz
#

but not in spain

agile basin
#

🤔

#

tru

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who would ever even want to live in spain

toxic quartz
#

people that live there?

agile basin
#

you think they WANT to live there??

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it's pretty expensive to move ya' know

toxic quartz
#

true

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in my counrty weed is legal

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country*

agile basin
#

In some of the states weed is legal

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Not where i live tho 😭

toxic quartz
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i live in the capital of weed called amsterdam

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lol

agile basin
#

Holland

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Lol

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nice

toxic quartz
#

in every street cofeeshop

agile basin
#

The Netherlands is a great country

toxic quartz
#

no i'ts not

agile basin
#

why?

toxic quartz
#

health care sucks

agile basin
#

Oh

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rip

toxic quartz
#

we have a lot of mixed people in our country

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that are making trouble

#

but we have the best roads in the world

agile basin
#

oh heck let's not get political

#

But yeah, The Netherland's roads are nice

toxic quartz
#

health care is good but not cheap

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and if you can't work you get monet from the goverment

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money*

#

studying is the netherlands is good

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specially in IT

#

what i am studing

#

but how does it feel to live in the USA?

agile basin
#

Ok i guess

#

It's stable

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Wanna move back to Canada someday tho

toxic quartz
#

i dont want to get to political

#

but is trump that bad?

agile basin
#

umm

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sure

#

i guess

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I don't really notice much

toxic quartz
#

because i read an article about hughe tax deal

agile basin
#

I mean, getting rid of Net Neutrality is shot

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Yeah... it's more complicated than that

#

won't affect me though

toxic quartz
#

oh only rich people?

agile basin
#

Well no

toxic quartz
#

we have trump 2.0 in the netherlands called Geert Wilders

agile basin
#

It depends

#

The tax deal doesn't affect me because of how much i make and the other tax cuts i get

#

Who's that?

toxic quartz
agile basin
#

What's your opinion?

toxic quartz
#

hmm

#

let him do his thing

#

i am not voting on him lol

agile basin
#

Hmm ok

toxic quartz
#

but we are going off topic

agile basin
#

yeah

toxic quartz
#

😋

agile basin
#

So uhh

#

Network switches

toxic quartz
#

haha

agile basin
#

Good

#

yes

toxic quartz
#

do you do a lot in networking?>

agile basin
#

Eh not really

toxic quartz
#

oh

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you just have fast internet?

agile basin
#

Yeah

toxic quartz
#

haha

agile basin
#

I have the default router, and a gigabit netgear switch

#

i WANT to go more advanced... but like money and time... and stuff

toxic quartz
#

Same

#

i don't have a default router

vagrant heath
#

I have a Cicso switch that I need to setup

toxic quartz
#

do you need help? @vagrant heath

#

@agile basin i see that you have floatplane is it worth it?

agile basin
#

Yes

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VEry

rocky badge
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yes!

agile basin
#

'specially for the current price

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of $3

rocky badge
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^^

river arrow
#

how does one get floatplane ? 😄

rocky badge
toxic quartz
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floatplane only support's paypal

vagrant heath
#

I am just lazy.

rocky badge
#

yup

toxic quartz
#

and no ideal (digital payment system in the netherlands)

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all banks in the netherlands use it, i'ts a pretty good system

rocky badge
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the new site should be able to use credit cards

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when that comes out

toxic quartz
#

in the netherlands you cant have easely a credit card

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you need enough moiney and stable income

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money*

rocky badge
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lol

toxic quartz
#

why doesnt floatplane have a yearly options?

agile basin
#

Becuase.... i forgot

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There was an actualy reason

toxic quartz
#

then i do it

vagrant heath
#

It did

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They got rid of it

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Unless your like me and are grandfathered in

agile basin
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I didn't have enough $ at the time

river arrow
#

joining floatplane was really easy and i even linked my discord acc in few clicks nice

agile basin
#

ye

rocky badge
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yay!

pine wigeon
#

damn, would have liked a yearly option

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just fire and forget for 12 months

rocky badge
#

i got the yearly.. they removed it now 😦

agile basin
#

yeah lol

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I got the monthlt

#

not too bad

#

Also, nice twitch sub!

lost flint
#

Hi 😃

#

I got an expert question

#

I set-up an Site-to-Site VPN

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Now my firewall can access the network on the otherside

#

But the internal network from the firewall can't

#

Any ideas?

fathom hound
#

Holy shit

rocky badge
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yeah

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its crazy

agile basin
#

buys 10

fathom hound
#

Maybe with that ISPs will be able to provide some better speeds

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Though I doubt they'd be that nice

river arrow
#

This switch will be mainly used in datacenters

agile basin
#

not with that attitude

river arrow
#

and in my home network 😄

agile basin
#

yep

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With the isp provided router XD

river arrow
#

and my 10 year old lan card 100Mb 😄

agile basin
#

lol

river arrow
#

I have saved my first lan card i bought for 7$ when i switched from modem connection back in 2000 😄

#

my parents bought for me*

agile basin
#

nice

river arrow
#

@lost flint depending on how you have set the VPN and depending on the firewalls you have used, probably your internal network is not seeing the route to the other site

#

or some firewall rule is blocking it

fresh holly
#

They removed yearly subs quite recently I guess?

#

Because I subbed yearly as well quite recently.

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like 1-2 months ago

agile basin
#

Yeah

thick minnow
#

I am happy with my yearly subscription 😄

agile basin
#

Note to self, do not upload 400GB to google drive while running a speedtest

thick minnow
#

XD

opal compass
agile basin
#

Hey, I have a faster upload!

opal compass
#

I will go kill myself

#

😅

agile basin
#

Bye

#

Ahh better

#

ugh, my ping is high

opal compass
#

😑

agile basin
#

It's DOUBLE my usual

opal compass
#

I think
Enough internet for me today

#

😔

agile basin
#

lol

rocky badge
#

new rule? Don't brag about your internet? Some people have the fastest in the area..

agile basin
#

i know i'm still mad that my upload speed is 200 less than what i pay for

opal compass
#

@agile basin can i know how much u pay for that?

agile basin
#

We got aton of free upgrades

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so $130 for internet, tv, and phone

#

We technically only pay for 75/75

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which was more than enough tbh

rocky badge
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I want more up

opal compass
#

Here i pay
Like 11$ monthly
For 4 Mbps with 100 GB download limit
After i finish them
Speed downgrade to 1 Mbps

agile basin
#

I mean, $11 is pretty good

#

compared to $130

rocky badge
#

At friend's I was like... I'd rather use my mobile data.

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At&t I hate you

opal compass
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You see 11$ nothing compared to my country currency = 183 EGP

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Understand? 😕

agile basin
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Ooooooooh. ok

#

That makes more sense

opal compass
#

1$ = 18 EGP

agile basin
#

Yeah, I feel bad for people with slow internet

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I used to have 5/1 with COX

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cost like $60/month

opal compass
#

It's funny that am running minecraft server on that connection

agile basin
#

lol

opal compass
#

😂

agile basin
#

I mean, it works... i guess

rocky badge
#

115/7 40$ internet only... We also use phone and tv

opal compass
#

Yea & friends from uk join lagless

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Here we use satellite dish for tv

agile basin
#

I've always had cable.... I think

#

At one point we had dial-up

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That was fun

rocky badge
#

Oh

opal compass
#

Too hard to run IPTV on that connection speed

rocky badge
#

You can get cable from spectrum or dsl speeds over cable from at&t

opal compass
#

Here only 1 ISP

#

Give us that stupid speed

rocky badge
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Oh

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My friend is Xfinity or at&t he has at&t

agile basin
#

why people need net neutrality across the globe

#

cox or verizon for me

rocky badge
#

Doesnt the FCC regulate how fast the slowest speeds can be?

opal compass
#

My mobile supports 4G
When i download over 4G
It gives me like 3 mb/sec.
ONLY

agile basin
#

You're not in the US right?

opal compass
#

Am from Egypt

rocky badge
#

Oh I get 30mbps over 4g LTE inside...

agile basin
#

I don't

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i get like 5

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ish

rocky badge
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Inside?

agile basin
#

nope

#

anywhere in my city really

rocky badge
#

Oh rip. Do you have Verizon mobile?

opal compass
#

Here we use signal towers not satellite

agile basin
#

Yeah, I have vzw

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I mean,. it's probably better now

#

We also use signal towers

rocky badge
#

I'm streaming 720p floatplane...

opal compass
#

I thanks god if youtube runs at 480 without buffering xD

agile basin
#

f to pay respects

rocky badge
#

I could use 1080p but I don't wanna reach my throttle data quicker

agile basin
#

yeah..

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I like never use my data

rocky badge
#

I've used 1.1GB in 5 days

agile basin
#

dang

opal compass
#

Can i tell you funny thing?

rocky badge
#

What

opal compass
#

Our ISP banned torrent yesterday from whole country

thick minnow
#

😮

opal compass
#

😅

rocky badge
#

Wow rip

agile basin
#

rip

#

I've used 1.77 gigs since the 18th

thick minnow
#

RIp

rocky badge
#

Watching episode 3 of the candy thing....

#

We're in non pilot chat...

thick minnow
#

.....

rocky badge
#

Remove it...

agile basin
#

2.2(ish) TB

thick minnow
#

hmmmmm

rocky badge
#

I'm close to 1tb

thick minnow
#

Not that much XD

opal compass
#

Give me speed & i cross limits

thick minnow
#

200/20 good enough ?

agile basin
#

Yeah

#

That's really good tbh

thick minnow
#

The upload sucks for me tho

#

I want moar

agile basin
#

Yeah, i hate isps that don't do same up as down

rocky badge
#

...

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110/7...

agile basin
#

Rip

thick minnow
#

Rip

rocky badge
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I hate it

thick minnow
#

What country ?

rocky badge
#

Good for streaming to my PC. Not from my PC.

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US

thick minnow
#

RIP

rocky badge
#

Spectrum.............

agile basin
#

Rip

thick minnow
#

Oh more rip

rocky badge
#

We're using docsis 3.0 not 3.1 :(

agile basin
#

ahh no

#

i have no idea what i'm using

opal compass
#

Egypt - ISP : TeData

Never google it

#

Hahahahaa

#

I have no idea what is that

thick minnow
#

Most usage this month Chrome 740GB

#

Not that much XD

rocky badge
#

Chrome: 0

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Firefox: 300GB

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Idk I'm not at my PC rn

opal compass
#

I think Firefox Quantum better than Chrome currently

rocky badge
#

Thank you! I like FF better than chrome

opal compass
#

😊

thick minnow
#

And 3.4 Gb out of 16.5 GB used on my phone plan XD

opal compass
#

5 gb/9 gb used

thick minnow
#

😮

opal compass
#

Renewable at 3/1/18

thick minnow
#

MIne renews on 01-01-2018

rocky badge
opal compass
#

1/1 my bd

rocky badge
#

My usage

thick minnow
#

Damn'

#

WAIT WOT youtube music

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Youtube Red ?

rocky badge
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1.3 GB btw

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Yup yt red

thick minnow
#

Ahhh i dont have youtube red in my country and it sucks

rocky badge
#

I don't have to pay until March

thick minnow
#

😮 Noise

rocky badge
#

3 mo trial

thick minnow
#

Ah

opal compass
#

😅 cracked YouTube apk
& run it background
While screen off

#

Pay 0$

rocky badge
#

...

agile basin
#

lel

thick minnow
rocky badge
#

But yt red series?

#

@opal compass

opal compass
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Nothing available here

#

I use vpn to access Spotify

rocky badge
#

... wow

thick minnow
#

Wow

rocky badge
#

I don't like Spotify

opal compass
#

Currently am using vpn to enjoy internet

#

No vpn
Like no internet here

thick minnow
#

Wot

opal compass
#

Everything is blocked or not available

thick minnow
#

Sounds like a jail to me

opal compass
#

Note* cracked vpn apk 😅

thick minnow
#

....

rocky badge
#

I don't use a vpn. No need too. Hope you can get by post net neutrality blocked sites with a VPN

#

Wow

#

Do you crack everything?

opal compass
#

I pay for Steam only

thick minnow
#

Prob XD

rocky badge
#

I hope...

#

My friend is paying for red and 1tb of Google drive

opal compass
#

Why not cracking everything

#

Better than pay for these things
& can't get food

rocky badge
#

Cuz legal reasons... Says the guy who probably didn't do stuff to get Adobe CC...

thick minnow
#

I pay for stuff and have food

agile basin
#

I get unlim from schoopl for google drive

rocky badge
#

I don't pay for food. Mom and dad do

thick minnow
#

XD

opal compass
#

@thick minnow
Sorry but if u wanna compare
Let's look to country currency

thick minnow
#

Country: Netherlands Currentcy: EURO

opal compass
#

For example
Get from job 1200 EGP
Monthly
1 dollar = 18 EGP

thick minnow
#

From job: 1200 Euros Monthly
1 euro = 1.20 USD

opal compass
#

Find a job for me there please!

thick minnow
#

XD

opal compass
#

😹

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Sometimes i stay at work here for 4 days

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With no sleep

#

Also no overtime

thick minnow
#

RIP

opal compass
#

Someone kill me Please!

fresh holly
#

Your wish is my command.

agile basin
#

o

thick minnow
#

Suggestion: Run

opal compass
#

😻

#

I think i have to go to eat something then sleep
I got work morning
Or no food xD

#

Bye guys it's 1:40 am here

agile basin
#

Bye gn

opal compass
#

Nice to talk with you

thick minnow
#

Its 12:40 Am and GN

agile basin
#

it's 6:43 PM

fresh holly
#

1200 EGP is 60 euros, crazy.

thick minnow
#

Damn

lean pollen
#

Rip

mighty galleon
#

I've been thinking about my old PC has dual ethernet

It will work max 2gbps internet speed? Currently i have a 1gbps, i'm not sure plan the upgrade to 2gbps
What if problem IP address on both cable the PC?

atomic plaza
mighty galleon
#

I watched this video

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It might useful for home server, but it will work on some motherborads like high-end?

dull iron
#

Actually it only works on some oses

#

Desktop os windows versions don't let you do it

#

Linux is free and lets you easily bond multiple connections for faster speeds

#

Balance RR allows for a single session to be split so single channel traffic gets a boost

#

Did a more stressful test and got a+ bufferbloat

#

Beat that US users

rocky badge
dull iron
#

Just select fiber

rocky badge
#

Ik my connection isnt satellite

dull iron
#

Fiber is the most stressful default

rocky badge
#

I was playing around w/ it

dull iron
#

My settings were even more stressful

#

Well each default preset has a different setting

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If you register and login you can tweak the settings in detail

#

By having a very stressful test, you can see how your network holds up

#

Its not about the bandwidth, just using the very complicated QoS on my router

rocky badge
#

I dont have QoS set up

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If I did I would do by devices not services

#

Netgear genie is bad

peak walrus
#

netgear genie is crap

rocky badge
#

Yup

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Wanna change WiFi password? Reboot the router. No we won't just restart the WiFi service

peak walrus
#

i suffer through having two different netgear genies on different ports :/

rocky badge
#

😦

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rip

peak walrus
#

i swear modern routers should have like an app or a desktop app to do this shit in a simple way

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these crap admin panels need to die

rocky badge
#

Also I love Windows

peak walrus
#

i have never once had that :/

rocky badge
#

Bsods, Osods, Gsods. All from Windows

peak walrus
#

leave the insider program?

rocky badge
#

Nah

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If it happens again yeah but I'll stay right now

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"We're just collecting some error info" sure you are Microsoft

peak walrus
#

i wouldnt dare go insider on a laptop

rocky badge
#

Lol

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Why

peak walrus
#

if you're ever carrying a laptop out and about, you're carrying it for a reason. If you can't use it for that reason, the device is redundant

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My desktop is here regardless and it's far easier to reinstall windows on, replace anything broken, etc

rocky badge
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Im probably gonna roll back if this happens again

#

Yay cannot access Netgear genie

dull iron
#

Unifi is crap as a router. I use mikrotik

#

You can find mikrotik in data centers but not ubiquiti routers

rocky badge
#

well thats datacenter not small office or home

vagrant heath
#

I don't think ubiquiti makes routers that support 100+ Gb/s

dull iron
#

I use the ccr1036 with 2sfp+ at home

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That router is limited in band with by ports, its software nat is fastwr

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Small office or home, that router works well

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Ubiquiti routers don't have the same QoS flexibility that mikrotik does

vagrant heath
#

If I remember right Google was using custom built routers.

rocky badge
#

I think they use custom everything...

vagrant heath
#

At least in the SJ Datacenter

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They run Windows Server 2016 Core

dull iron
#

That sucks

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Windows server ran like crap when I ran it

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Blue screens, freezes

rocky badge
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I thought they ran a custom linux os, idk

vagrant heath
#

I mean this is core. So no GUI

dull iron
#

Wouldn't install library runtimes despite updates installed

rocky badge
#

Windows Server uses like 1% of my CPU when idle

#

what a server should do

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not like 20% used by Windows 10

vagrant heath
#

I'm sure some stuff is linux, but most of it was Server Core

dull iron
#

On Linux not only do my game servers run better but its more resource efficient. Less CPU usage

rocky badge
#

they use it because of customers?

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"That meant customers could start running Microsoft SQL Server databases, SharePoint document repositories, and Exchange Server mail on the Google cloud."

vagrant heath
#

No way I was shown customer systems

dull iron
#

That's the ms bit, but Linux dominates the server space

#

So the front end can be windows

#

Linus dominates youtube

rocky badge
#

😃

vagrant heath
#

Getting the tour was a pain in the ass. NO WAY they would show me anything that was not 100% Google

rocky badge
#

I hope getting the tour was hard... They have to have tight security

vagrant heath
#

1 Month of Background Checks

dull iron
#

Yeah, data is as valuable as money, so bank grade security is needed

vagrant heath
#

They have Armed Guards.

rocky badge
#

duh

dull iron
#

Banks have armed guards

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If they don't, complain to your bank that the lax security

vagrant heath
#

This is California dude. You don't see dudes with AR's out in the open everyday

rocky badge
#

they can have trillions worth of data from customers and that wouldnt very good to loose

dull iron
#

Usually only the banks with safe deposits have armed guards

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Not loose, get stolen

rocky badge
#

they might have Windows Server for AD login for employees and offices

dull iron
#

Stolen data is worth so much just like money

vagrant heath
#

Nothing on the linux side to match AD?

rocky badge
#

but for their main servers I think its custom so their software isnt vulnerable. Its security precautions

dull iron
#

Linux actually has ad but setting it up is more painful

vagrant heath
#

They have IBM mainframes

dull iron
#

For instance I wasn't able to get samba working before

rocky badge
#

Employees may login w/ AD but why would the main servers need the AD synced?

dull iron
#

On linux

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I mean samba server

#

Linux has LDAP and another thing that's only Unix compatible

#

But Linux network logins have been around for ages

#

Ms added theirs late and made it proprietary as usual

vagrant heath
#

Good luck hacking a Mainframe (They are not x86 based)

rocky badge
#

thats a good thing.. If you couldnt eaisly hack Google...

dull iron
#

Well some data centers like fb use the larger variant of CPU that my router uses

vagrant heath
#

It's why you don't hear about credit cards getting hacked. They use mainframes because the I/O throughput is INSANE

dull iron
#

Instead of 36 cores they use the 100 core variants

#

Cred cards don't get hacked, they get generated

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Those many core CPUs can run many GB/s of firewall and web server

rocky badge
#

The Edgerouter Infinity has 16 cores to do 80gbps.

dull iron
#

I hack for a living, well to survive because we don't get the tools for the job where I am

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So I hacked the company router so I could get the login to use my own as the company used crappy vulnerable dlinks

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That edgerouter relies on hardware acceleration to do 80gb

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Mikrotik doesn't, hence why I like em more. They show the more realistic speeds that their customers will be uaing

vagrant heath
#

Oh

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Motherfucker

dull iron
#

For instance who buys an edgerouter only to use the features that consumer routers provide?

#

Yeah I've seen that

#

My mum got me one of the sun PCs used in oil and gas calculations

rocky badge
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I would buy an Edgerouter and use some of the features that consumer router provide... but I want more stuff than that

dull iron
#

Not a mainframe but pretty heavy with a GPU that ran high quality gigs where hit end desktop GPUs would struggle at that time

vagrant heath
#

Oh god, Sun Hardware,

dull iron
#

Exactly, you want to use more features. On the edgerouters those features would not qorkbwith hardware acceleration

rocky badge
#

I want the ability to use VLANs....

dull iron
#

Sun had 16 core CPUs each with 8 threads per core in a multi socket (4) server

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Many years before Zen

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The best x86 has is 2 threads per corw

vagrant heath
rocky badge
#

netgear genie makes it harder than it needs to be..

dull iron
#

Get mikrotik, it can do things that ubiquiti cant

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Just so you know o have both the ubiquiti erpro and mikrotik

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And the erpro can manage 200mbs of my wan needs

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Mikrotik on the other hand can do eat more

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For example I've managed QoS on mikrotik with hardware Nat

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I hate phone autocorrect

#

Price per performance, mikrotik beats ubiquiti in their market segments

#

Who buys such a router and not use the features it comes with?

#

Besides ubiquiti has a shady financial/stock investment pitch

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They call their fan base fanatical

#

Its on the investment brochurw

rocky badge
#

well unifi isnt really ment for datacenters... offices where ethernet and wifi is ok. Where 10 gigabit and gigabit are all that are needed. LMG uses it for their router, wifi, and etc. I think I would get more out of UniFi than mikrotik

vagrant heath
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Eh. I just wish I could figure out how to setup Ubiquiti shit without getting a cert.

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what are you trying to setup?

vagrant heath
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Yeah Datacenters are going to use Custom Hardware, Cisco hardware, or Dell Hardware

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or some are even moving to cloud

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They aren't going to use they have been uaing

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I watched a video of cloud and amazon aws datacenter tour, I saw Cisco and mikrotik

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I mean I have yet to see juniper hardware in the wild

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Dell and others sell fully managed high performance switches that fit data center needs

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So if you wanna buy a good switch, HP, dell,etc are great 2nd switches. They have been used in datacenters

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So they aren't going to use, they have been using

vagrant heath
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Yep, Ubiquiti does not make Datacenter hardware

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Ubiquiti provides good versatile basic hardware. Mikrotik provides very advanced routers that aren't as versatile

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they dont even advertise to datacenters

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they aim for offices and home users

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at least what I have seen

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Mikrotik doesn't rate their hardware for big datacenters yet isps also buy them for their edge gateways (pppoe servers)

vagrant heath
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They DON'T even make Datacenter hardware.

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yeah

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Mikrotik doesn't either

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Just so happens their price, performance and features rivalled Cisco that isps and data centers started buying them

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I have never see MikroTik Hardware in a Datacenter

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lol rip

dull iron
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Where do you live?

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Silicon Valley

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Minute 4

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Pause and you can see Cisco asr and routerboards

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I have a person on Discord that I know, their company is cloud or Cisco

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The thing is, Datacenters around here use L3 for the most part. Which provides a OC-3072 uplink. So you need Datacenter grade hardware for the 150Gb/s uplink

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L3 is now century link

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Ubiquiti just can't cut it in performance with their market. But since home users aren't the wiser people buy it and get disappointed after using QoS

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It ultimately became a part of CenturyLink through a complex reverse-merger process where Jeff Storey sold the company and also became CEO of CenturyLink.

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Yeah

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Fun stuff

dull iron
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When it comes to cloud, a big part of it is internal bandwidth too

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Those multi building data centers have huge bandwidth intranets

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Level 3 bought CenturyLink, But they did complex things so that CenturyLink would remain the parent company

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For instance load balancing, syncing and such require quite a lot of internal bandwidths

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So when you buy ubiquiti don't buy their routers as they're crap from experience

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Their AP's are very reliable with range but only support a limited number of clients

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did you try UniFi or Edgerouting? Im assuming UniFi?

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What would you reccomend for a home-network setup?

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The netgear r7000 can handle hundreds of clients on WiFi and so can mikrotik AP routerboards

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I have the r7000..

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it lacks features in software

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@agile basin Just get some cheap Cisco hardware, because that's the most common thing out there

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Aight

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For instance I only use my Asus as WiFi AP's as unifi and mikrotik are late with the latest WiFi standards

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I would suggest either x86 or mikrotik as your main router, coupled with a ubiquiti or OEM switch, and a decent thing for WiFi (good consumer routers, unifi or mikrotik ap routerboards)

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Cisco also make good switches and router but not Linksys or Cisco basic routers

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The VPN routers that Cisco and many other brands sell are a decade outdated

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Cisco calls them the Cisco rv

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Avoid them

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Some make decent switches. The netgear prosafe is a good switch too which to link can't beat in quality

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And avoid everything dlink

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Tp link*

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The mikrotik CCR CPU connected ports offer a 1ms better latency

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So it won't help online gaming unless you preciously had 5ms ping if considered too laggy

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peak walrus
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like my monthly performance review

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refreshed and it shows.

dull iron
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Could be bad. Could mean bad things got through

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I never get above 0 on any of my domains

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nor does my webservers see suspicous activity

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Perhaps because they dont

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Perhaps an activity is suspicious and not seen

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You can only detect and stop what you know is bad

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My router stops hundreds of IPs a day on average

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