Airpods and wf series wouldn't work because Bluetooth is delayed
#virtual-reality
carmine wharf
haughty thistle
Wired ANC earbuds...
haughty thistle
I know they exists, but only in Japan from Sony, and they all have a Typ-C connector on them
At least the ones I know
haughty thistle
Oh god. I just found out that the Bose QC 20 exist. They're so weird. Old, yet still 175€. They have a kinda large dongle slightly down the cable with the battery
carmine wharf
Ew
haughty thistle
carmine wharf
Lol
haughty thistle
Other then those, I can't really find any fully-wired ANC earbuds
carmine wharf
Chicken bread, if you put on the xm4's but turn off anc, do they still block any sound?
Like on the index i mean
haughty thistle
Ones that actually hold their worth in ANC performance...
If there's not a proper seal around your ears, sound from the outside comes into your ears more easily. That#s why the ANC isn't all that great either
It's definitely more isolation then with the Index speakers. That's for sure...
carmine wharf
Damn. Guess my only option is the speakers or just hope they fit
I could get a nicer fan thats quieter but those are expensive
Id love it if I had an index now, so I could use it during winter and not need the fan. Sadly not even gonna have the money to order one until February so its gonna get warm quick
sly falcon
im boutta put this out here, I was considering a cosmos a while back and I think I would have killed myself if I had to deal with that
carmine wharf
glad you didnt get a cosmos then
sly falcon
tracking is a joke, it looks like a cheese grater made by samsung, the build quality is sub par the price is hurts my wallet more than the headset would have hurt my graphics card
everything is wrong
agile abyss
carmine wharf
i dont recomend preordering it, but it seems like they are at least making a very convincing scam
at best, a good headset
sly falcon
I already bought a vive so I dont plan on getting one until I see it on like shortcircut or something
carmine wharf
personally for me i dont find full body tracking or face tracking useful, eye tracking is though
i dont stream vr or play vrchat
hand tracking seems useful but it would be more useful if games supported it 🙄
sly falcon
yeah but judging from the quest's I dont thing its really ready to be supported
sly falcon
it feels really floaty and latent
carmine wharf
mine feels really good
sly falcon
I found hand lab or whatever the sidequest game is really frustrating to use
maybe you have better lighting
carmine wharf
well i do have 60hz tracking so maybe that helps
sly falcon
ah idk what lighting I have
carmine wharf
where u from
sly falcon
us
sly falcon
maybe im just expecting to much
carmine wharf
yeah maybe my room is better lit
idk, theres definitley a delay if i move my hand fast but for menu navigation and hand labs it feels great
sly falcon
I just have a large decommitioned home theatre for vr so the lighting it pretty dimm
carmine wharf
the quest relies on light for tracking lol
sly falcon
that would explain that for the 4 days I had it the vive was so much more accurate lol
carmine wharf
lol
sly falcon
controllers work fine for me its just hand tracking
plush flint
Debating upgrading to a 3070 from a 1070ti 🤔
carmine wharf
dew it
sly falcon
also time to time ill put it on and all forms of tracking stops working, like its 0 dof, have to restart it every time, idk whats going on its wierd, do you guys have this issue?
carmine wharf
sometimes my quest just randomly says lost tracking
sly falcon
just imagine you see the tracking lost message but its just stays on your screen locked to your movement
carmine wharf
yep
sly falcon
odd issue
carmine wharf
and the worst part is you cant click the button to restart tracking
you have to restart
plush flint
How are your base stations set up? I'd also say maybetry different usb ports if you haven't
carmine wharf
base stations?
sly falcon
ive got a wierd base station setup but ill send
carmine wharf
wait, is decagear a standalone steamvr headset?
sly falcon
I had a used vive and I bought them seperately
sly falcon
This is my base station setup, ive got 1 rn that came with 0 stands so I had to do some wierd workarounds
haughty thistle
Yeah, DecaGear would be integrated into SteamVR like the Vive Cosmos Elite or PiMax Headsets, requiring an additional piece of Software to be installed, for the headset to work
carmine wharf
why u limiting your play space
sly falcon
im gonna buy another later I just had trouble finding a good listing for another
im just gonna try to get a brand new one for xmas
also it works fine for what I do exept gets flaky in 360 games but what do you expect from 1 angle tracking
haughty thistle
That lighthouse looks like a Vive Pre Lighthouse (aka last prototype that was sent out to press and influencers before final release)
haughty thistle
The arrangement of the IR Sync LEDs is kinda what gives it away
sly falcon
Damn thats kinda cool
haughty thistle
On the release model the LEDs were arranged in a 3x3 pattern, whereas the Pre models have a seemingly randomly choosen arrangement
At least afaik
sly falcon
Do can I pair them with normal ones?
Or would i need to buy two new ones for dual base station
haughty thistle
Ah. It's not just the Pre Models that shipped with those lighthouses. It was also the 2016 model of the Vive that came with these lighthouses. More details here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ValveIndex/comments/bn45x1/an_analysis_of_the_different_revisions_of_steamvr/
sly falcon
so its the first batch of base stations
that would explain why they got sold or the guy was just an enthusiast
haughty thistle
But yeah, besides it being a Rev.1 Consumer lighthouse, it should work fine with Rev.2 of the 1.0s as well. I mean, the actual tracking system hasn't changed. It's just different internals doing the same job
sly falcon
so on camera my base station setup will just look wierd? no affect on accuracy of tracking, fov, etc
haughty thistle
My guess about the change is, that Valve has noticed better syncing between the lighthouses with the newer LEDs (as they are brighter), but because of the higher power draw, they couldn't put in as many, and thus the 3x3 arrangement was born...
sly falcon
hmm I might just get two ones brand new and this will be my backup idk
haughty thistle
Eh... the IR LEDs on the newer lighthouses are definitely visible (if only barely). It should work, but I can't guarantee anything...
sly falcon
im going for it its not like ive got money to loose either way im gonna be buying another
Why do my outlets perfectly align for base stations lol
im assuming this is just a common house thing but its cool regardless
haughty thistle
Yeah, Outlets in the corners is a pretty common thing I guess...
sly falcon
im boutta check every single room in my house lmao
my rooms perfect for vr I just wish that the dresser was somewhere else or just not there because its basicly just a shelf to me but its to heavy to move so I guess im stuck with it
young marten
The outlets might want to be warm because corners are usually 90 degrees.
sly falcon
yeah that to
Also is this a good vr playspace? Sorry for the bad quality iphone pano aint to good
this is the only parent approved vr space I have so I was wondering if Im gonna have a decent roomscale experience when I get another vive in a few days
sly falcon
no its a square im just shit with stablility lol
zinc timber
if you stand in the middle of the room, how many steps can you take in each direction?
sly falcon
It’s 16’ 1” across so I think I’m good I might move some shit around to make it more square
harsh niche
just don't bust your window out lol
sly falcon
Thats gonna happen eventually u know how heavy vive wands are
Also any wireless adapter owners can tell me how it is? I wanna know first hand before i spend 300 bucks on a vr accessory
carmine wharf
i suggest while you wait for anybody to answer that, you look it up and see some online reviews
sly falcon
Yeah
Ima go have a good laugh at index prices on ebay lol
Also I dont need wifi right? Its just the card inside that controls the vr
gentle coral
@sly falcon
I tried one of the beta TPcast setups for Vive my friend got in for review and akso the vive pro wireless adapter at GDC, and both were quite good, but I have yet to side by side compare it to wired on a high end system.
@subtle schooner > @sly falcon Apparently Valve has confirmed their validity, as they have stated themselves they have worked with them on SteamVR integration etc.
@subtle schooner
Valve confirming that they helped with steamvr integration means nothing, as valve helps everyone. Every headset that can play steamvr games has been helped by valve, including a ton of unreleased headsets.
Valve confirming means someone is doing VR hardwear dev, which they do for everyone, even non functional headsets.
worthy ridge
ok dumb question I am wanting to get into vr but I don't have a cpu with intergraded graphics. I meet the specs to run most vr hardware but will the issue of no graphics based out of the cpu be a problem?
regal breach
hang on... you don't have a cpu with integrated graphics or you do?
I'm confused what you're asking, you seem to be asking whether or not you can use a discreet video card for graphics, which yes, of course you can.
worthy ridge
I do not have one
the reason I bring this is up is because the hdmi on the rear io doesn't work to my knowledge as I can't test it to my knowledge
@regal breach
regal breach
so... this is a headless PC which you have no video output from?
worthy ridge
What do you mean by headless
regal breach
well you're saying you have no discreet graphics card, and you're also saying your cpu doesn't have integrated graphics, so by extension you have no video output on this system.
worthy ridge
I do have a discreet graphics card but no cpu graphics
regal breach
I literally just asked if you were asking if you could use a discreet video card and you said you don't have one.
worthy ridge
I am currently plugged into my card (2060 super) I thought you meant intergraded on cpu
my bad
regal breach
A 2060 super should be well and truly fine for most VR.
worthy ridge
I meet the specs I just get no output from the motherboard hdmi port
regal breach
... why would you, if you're not using an IGP?
I mean, yes, you can configure it to take passthrough from a discreet graphics card but there are rare scenarios where you'd do that, it's not for... mere mortals.
Why are you trying to use the HDMI port on the mobo backplane if you have outputs on the 2060?
worthy ridge
I am asking this cause I thought headsets had to go through that port
regal breach
and, more to the point, unless you're using a VR headset that outputs to HDMI/DP, where most will use USB... why does this matter?
no.
worthy ridge
ok well this helps me figure things out so Thank you akashra
regal breach
different headsets may take different inputs so it'll depend on what you buy.
worthy ridge
ok well its going to be a year or two down the line tell I get one so who knows by that time it could be a better wireless system then the quest
regal breach
Like, the Vive for example has a crazy HDMI+USB+5VDC input. Quest 2 on the other hand just takes USB-C.
worthy ridge
Oh ok but right now I am staying away from oculus quest 2 due to the facebooking of it
regal breach
I dunno wtf they were thinking when they designed this 😄
worthy ridge
good lord I am with you
regal breach
Next gen: Fuckit, let's just run an IEC 230V connector straight to it. Next gen: okay that was a bit shit, PoE anyone?
worthy ridge
gen after PCIe
regal breach
So long as PCI express 5 doesn't become PCI express 2 Gen 2 😄
(honestly USB consortium, whaaaaat the fuck guys).
worthy ridge
agreed
agile abyss
sly falcon
I dont have an issue with the look or all out design of the vive, tho I do think its a bit odd
sly falcon
also im finna watch that whole thing
haughty thistle
Yeah, even the Reveb G2 is going to require a separate power in. It does makes sense if you think about it. You're basically trying to run 1/2 displays, some audio electronics and a bunch of cameras/sensors in a VR headset. according to the official USB 3 spec, you can only expect about 800mA from a single USB 3 port. In many implementations there are more then 800mA available, but they're split over multiple USB ports so you can run into a situation where you end up with less then 800mA on a USB 3 port (USB 2 spec is 500mA, and that is like the min-min what you can expect from a USB port, that does not have other stuff connected like a Hub or extender)
I've had enough times where my USB ports just didn't offer enough power to the headset to run (WMR, Rift S). In those cases I had to use the USB 3.1 Gen2 plug on my Mobo which is connected to it's own controller (and thus power)
It's messy and I can understand why some companies like Valve/HTC and HP are resorting to use their own separately controlled power. It just makes sure that the headset will work with whatever system and setup you have.
sly falcon
how do you manage to type a collage thesus for everything lol
haughty thistle
idk
I'm bored so I sometimes start reading wikipedia articles and technical documentations to stuff I really shouldn't care about xD
sly falcon
lol
fathom sigil
I'm bored so I sometimes start reading wikipedia articles and technical documentations to stuff I really shouldn't care about xD
@haughty thistle good thing we ALL donated to Wikipedia... Right...?
haughty thistle
My mom is a donator to Wikipedia. And I'm also putting in a bit of my cash into that donation as well
sweet halo
Anyone own the climb and a quest
haughty thistle
<- This guy does
What you wanna ask?
sly falcon
finally got a roomscale playspace 
still got one base station but I put it in the corner so its got more view of the space
fathom sigil
That's possible?
sly falcon
technicly, it doesnt work well but it works for now
imagine PSVR but like actually functional tracking
180 degrees of tracking, roomscale etc
im gonna get another later
fathom sigil
Oh right yeah
gentle coral
I dunno wtf they were thinking when they designed this 😄
@regal breach
A big reason was that they wanted easy yo replace standard cables, and to make ot easy yo plug in shorter cables for VR backpacks, wireless adapters, and accessories.
Also it gives the headset a much longer life then any Oculus PCVR headset, or even the Index.
I have replaced a vive cable twice, and each time it was about 50 dollars.
My friend had her Rift CV1 cable break, and guess what, you can't just buy the cable for it, as it is proprietary. Also Oculus stopped producing the cable replacements the instant they stopped selling the CV1. Now eBay scalpers are the only place that you can find it, and the cable is 100 to 150 dollars. Oculus support also only would sell you the replacement if you had a warranty. Oculus has done annoying tactics to get people to buy a new headset when they have a perfectly usable one with just a bad cable.
At least valve is really good at sending out replacement cables.
Once I get my Reverb G2 I will probably order 2 extra cables to be safe down the road.
haughty thistle
Oculus has done annoying tactics to get people to buy a new headset when they have a perfectly usable one with just a bad cable.
Reminds me of that one time someone asked on r/Oculus about what they should do about the foam coming off from the facial interface on their Rift S, and Oculus support just blatantly said, they have to get a new headset
sly falcon
lol
facebook is driving oculus strait into the ground
I wonder what it would be like if oculus was never facebook
like oculus home makes oculus not even an option for my relitively low end pc, it causes games to TANK compared to steamvr headsets
haughty thistle
Oculus Home itself isn't really that bad, and in Oculus store titles, the performance impact isn't too bad. But when running SteamVR on an Oculus headset, the performance impact is massive (we're talking Index like performance requirement for Rift S and double that for the Quest). It's like as if Oculus has purposefully hindering SteamVR performance, so people buy on their store 
sly falcon
I think they are, def an oculus thing to do
sullen linden
hey guys im going to buy a oculus rift s probably, but idk should I wait till black friday?
haughty thistle
While the Rift S might not have required a Facebook login back when it was released, it does now if you don't already have an Oculus account. So keep that in mind
sly falcon
@sullen linden you should wait just to save some money, also check your IPD because you are not going to be changing it from 63.5
sullen linden
@sly falcon im sorry what do you mean about IPD?
haughty thistle
@sullen linden IPD is the distance between your pupils
sullen linden
@haughty thistle thank you, but what has that to do with when to buy? (no offense, I was just curious).
haughty thistle
Because if you eyes don't line up properly with the lenses then you'll get a blurry image. If your IPD is way off from that 63.5mm lens distance of the Rift S, then any other headset with physical IPD adjustment is a much better option for you
Just a thing to consider @sullen linden
sullen linden
@haughty thistle ah okay and do you have any idea how I check how much space there is between my eyes ? I mean it's "normall" I guess ? Thank you also for your response.
haughty thistle
To measure your IPD as accurately as possible, just follow this guide:
- Take a ruler with Millimeter measurements to a mirror
- Close your right eye and align the 0mm mark with the center of your left pupil
- Close your left eye and open your right eye
- Put a finger against the line closest to your right pupil
- Take ruler away from your face and read which line you put your finger against
There are also apps out there measure your IPD, but they are nowhere nearly as accurate
@sullen linden
sullen linden
okay thank you very much. Also which one would you suggest Quest 2 or Rift S ? would really appreciate your opinion. @haughty thistle
haughty thistle
Generally speaking, I'd say the Quest 2 is the better headset, but for PCVR, it's held back by Quest Link in the sense that the image is quite soft compared to a native image and it requires a lot more processing power then a native headset with similar specs. Oculus Home still draws a lot of resources when SteamVR is running (Rift S has similar requirements in SteamVR to the Index, but a lot less in Oculus Store titles), but with the Quest and Quest 2 you also have to consider that the image has to be compressed and then sent via USB, which induces latency (although barley noticeable) and makes the image look soft, as it can't be encoded at native resolution without a heavy performance/latency impact. Despite what some people say where you can apparently now tell Oculus to encode the Image for Quest Link on the Q2 at a higher res, from what I've heard it doesn't do a thing about the image resolution sent over the cable (aka it's just fancy AA)
Tl;dr
Q2 is the better headset, but the Rift S is easier to run and has a sharper image for PCVR gaming
You also have to keep in mind, that the Q2 requires a Facebook login, even for those who already have an Oculus account
vapid depot
theres an app to measure your ipd
if you have an iphone with faceid
i dont remember its name tho
haughty thistle
Apps that use the camera aren't all that accurate. I mean sure you can use them to get an idea, but by the time you have them installed and went through the measuring process, you might as well have already measured it with a ruler.
But yeah, using FaceID, sounds interesting, as I can imagine that there's no calibration process...
sullen linden
@haughty thistle Ahh okay, thank you. Yes I've heard also that if you want to use your VR for steam that the Rift S will be a better option, also I think personally that the thing about the Facebook account is kinda a bummer, because why would you HAVE to make a Facebook account to use the VR at all it is kinda weird, but whatever my opinion doesn't matter 😂.
In the end, should I wait for Black Friday or nah?
haughty thistle
If you want a Facebook free option, that also doubles as a way better headset then the Rift S, you can go for the HP Reverb G2. It's 699 8so a bit more expensive), but it doesn't require any additional accounts besides your Steam account to use with SteamVR, as WMR doesn't require a M$ account
I honestly don't think Facebook is going to put out any new sales on the Rift S unless they discontinue it. And when Oculus discontinued the Rift CV1, they basically stopped selling and manufacturing replacement parts right away. So if you had a problem with your CV1 you're stuck with it. Ultimately it's your choice, whether you wait or buy now and which headset you end up getting
sullen linden
@haughty thistle aight, thanks for responding really helped me out 🙂
haughty thistle
Oh, I was just browsing the Oculus website, and it turns out they already stopped selling replacement parts and accessories for both the OG Quest and Rift S
sweet halo
<- This guy does
What you wanna ask?
@haughty thistle
I am Having trouble to get the game to work with alvr and revive. It stutters like crazy when I move my head. I am wondering if anyone else has the same issue as me
Also it is not my router
That Is the issue
For some reason the stuttering only does not happen when the game is loading everyelse it stutters
haughty thistle
I've only ever tried Oculus games through either Link or on a non-Oculus headset through Revive. Sorry if I can't help you with that ^^"
But generally speaking, I didn't had any problems running the Climb on PC, although it's quite a demanding game I noticed (barely managing to get ~80fps on my 1080Ti with the Index)
sly falcon
@sly falcon im sorry what do you mean about IPD?
@humble dawn the IPD (lense distance) cannot be adjusted on the rift S, so if your eyes are too far apart its going to fuck with the focusd
sweet halo
@haughty thistle alvr is free. Can you see if you get the same stuttering issue. And I agree that the climb is very demanding
I have a rx 5700 and a ryzen 5 2600
sly falcon
tbh I tried ALVR and its too floaty to do anything
gloomy crater
So we're trying to get Oculus link working on my sister's quest and it keeps giving is the error 'your headset has no audio'
There's no option to use the quest 2 as an input or output anywhere
sly falcon
My solution is to plug headphones into ur pc, its what i do anyway
sullen linden
hey so i ordered an oculus quest 2 a just now
and i recently owned a gear vr
will my gear vr games
transfer
because all my games are compatible on the oculus quest 2
but i dont wanma have to but my games again
brazen prism
For the Oculus Quest 2, games and such would be stored on the headset, pc, or both?
rustic garnet
If you're using it standalone they're stored in the headset
With link/alvr you run pc games off your pc drive
haughty thistle
Afaik GearVR games are not cross-buy with the Quest platform. You'll see if they continue to work on your Q2 once you get it, but my guess is there's a large chance they won't work. @sullen linden
sly falcon
For the Oculus Quest 2, games and such would be stored on the headset, pc, or both?
@brazen prism headset, but for link on the pc
sly falcon
ohhhh noo why are people buying the cosmos elite
acoustic gate
"high price must mean high quality"
sly falcon
Lol
Ok so ive got a roomscale, 360 boudary, and 20 bucks, what vr game am i getting
Ive already got beat saber no mans sky, rec room and vrc
carmine wharf
Its not short if you suck at it like I do 
austere python
Boneworks is by far my favorite VR game but it can cause motion sickness easily
haughty thistle
I also don't like how so many people risk their lighthouses by mounting them to Tri-pods. If you ever had a high-pole Tri-Pod you know how wobbly they are. You do not want to have your lighthouses (especially the 2.0 ones) mounted this loosly
sly falcon
its temporary
until I can figure out where to put them bcause my room is kinda wierd
at least for me it is
idk about other people
I just imagine parents or someone jumping into them when you show them richeys plank exp
carmine wharf
I'm only gonna have one of mine mounted to a tripod until I can permanently mount it
So probably like 3 days
sly falcon
I dont have alot of spectators :( so tripods should be fine for me
carmine wharf
Yeah the one I have to mount isn't near anywhere my family would go
Its the back corner of my bedroom
sullen linden
@haughty thistle o
ok well i hope the quest supportd most of the games i like playing
ok so rhe games i used to have are supported on the quest but i have to rebuy them
gloomy crater
Huh. I wasn't expecting this in the slightest
When I first started playing VR, I had a quest 1 and a PC with a 2200g + 4gb RX570 in it. If I tried to use link, it was a horrible laggy stuttery mess. After that I upgraded to a 3600 + 5700x and a valve index and everything was great
Well now, I have to use a temp card for however long it takes for me to get ahold of a 6800xt, and I thought I was kissing VR goodbye for potentially two months. Turns out it isn't really that bad
It just drops the resolution detail and refresh rate on my index, but other than that there's no horrible latency or stuttering like I was expecting
I have no idea why this rx550 is performing better than my old rx570, but I feel it has something to do with the fact that I was playing through Oculus link before
digital scaffold
Oculus link works with pretty much any 3,1 USB type C cable that's long enough, right?
regal breach
so long as it's not a crappy cable yeah
sly falcon
Oculus link works with pretty much any 3,1 USB type C cable that's long enough, right?
@digital scaffold as long as the cable isnt absolute garbage cable you got for 25 cents ur good
digital scaffold
Okay, good.
dull obsidian
Is the windows mixed reality headset a good vr headset?
loud walrus
Quest 2 gang
carmine wharf
which windows mixed reality headset
pale orbit
WMR headsets range from bleh (but cheap) to some of the best visuals you can get in VR
gentle coral
WMR headsets are consistently cheaper then other PCVR headsets. But yep functionality is a mixed bag.
haughty thistle
I have no idea why this rx550 is performing better than my old rx570, but I feel it has something to do with the fact that I was playing through Oculus link before
@gloomy crater Quest Link is really resource hungry due to it having to compress the rendered image to fit in the USB bandwidth
So I'd say that's not really surprising, that the Index runs better on lower end hardware
Oculus link works with pretty much any 3,1 USB type C cable that's long enough, right?
@digital scaffold Not necessarily every cable with a Typ-C Jack will work. You have to make sure that it's rated for USB 3.0 Data transfer. I've seen cables rated for Thunderbolt or DP over Typ-C that don't work with Quest Link. Even higher quality ones
The safest way to make sure it'll work is to get a cable other people have reported working for Quest Link
carmine wharf
Teardown is amazing. Id like vr support but my pc would explode
dense stag
haughty thistle
If you're fine with Facebook getting to know every detail about you, the Quest 2 is a pretty good headset. Although I don't think the RX580 will be good enough for playable framerates with that headset.
A used Vive is probably more suitable for your hardware
keen vessel
I plan on buying a quest 2 and an rtx 3060 or rx 6600 (when it's released) and using virtual desktop with a dedicated router to play in another room because my room is too small, I want to know if this is a good idea
idle blade
highly considering picking up the quest 2
Also how do yall play vr if the quest link cable is connected? do yall hook it too the celing or smthng?
sly falcon
I just run it to the pc, nothing special
but then again my pc is like right next to my playspace lol
sly falcon
not for me
ive got a pretty long cable tho
ive got a fan so I cant really run in up to my ceiling
sly falcon
should be, ive got the 128 gig and only used 20 gb with like 10 games
the games arent that big
if your budget allows get the 128/256 just to be safe
dont wanna be uninstalling games all the time
fathom sigil
For now 64gb is a lot but in the future bigger games will pop up, hard to say if 64gb would be enough then
woven moon
I would assume so. I used to have a 1060 and it worked fine for me
haughty thistle
Depends on what headset "exist" has. I know that the OG Quest is about twice as hard to run as the Index. at least on the CPU
haughty thistle
VRChat for example under a controlled environment played at 144fps in the default Home world with no one else, whereas with my Quest I was tied to the frame reprojection (36fps). This means the actual framerate that was hit was less then 72fps (aka less then half).
With this measurement in mind though, you have to remember that VRC is a very CPU bound game. I can't say whether the bottleneck was the CPU or GPU, as there's no proper way to measure that, as with 12 threads, 40% can mean a lot or nothing
soft hound
I mean, you could use something like FPSVR to view the frametimes for both CPU and GPU @haughty thistle
haughty thistle
Eh. I don't want to pay for something I'd only use once
soft hound
It was $5, and I use it every time I go in VR, since it shows exact battery percentage, frametimes, time in VR, real world time, exact memory usage etc
Very useful for VRChat
I recommend it
haughty thistle
For me OVRToolkit does everything I need. But it can only show percentages of CPU, GPU and RAM Usage (as well as the FPS that OVR Toolkit is putting out)
If I want frametimes, I use the built-in tool from SteamVR, but it only shows the entire frametimes put out to the headset
OVRToolkit also has an RTC, session time and exact batter percentages. In addition it can pull desktop windows into VR. Very useful for streamers who want to see their chat
soft hound
Yeah, the info that FPSVR is much more detailed (and more consistent) than OVRToolkit, I only use toolkit for desktop overlays as a result
I had a weird issue with toolkit where the GPU usage was reporting as 0% the entire time, which wasn't helpful
Not to mention, as you said, percentages don't exactly dictate what is causing low framerates
haughty thistle
Eh. My system is powerful enough to have playable framerates in pretty much every title
But that GPU usage showing 0% is a new for me
soft hound
Yeah, it doesn't like my GPU
haughty thistle
Nvidia or AMD?
soft hound
Vega 56
haughty thistle
Huh...
haughty thistle
You know, I'm like the perfect PCMR stereotype. Buys a 1500$ GPU, but is too cheap for a 5$ piece of software xD
But for realsies, the 3090 is just too expensive. Even I wouldn't get that
soft hound
I mean, that's because of the 3080 price, since the 3090 is right where the 2080Ti was price wise
green crypt
i alwasy have both fps vr and ovrtoolkit running
soft hound
I only have OVRToolkit open if I'm watching someone stream on Discord or something
green crypt
fps vr is really nice to quicly check what the bottleneck is and i have found some weird as hell vrchat optimazation in frametime just becouse of fps vr
the reason i run ovr toolking always open is i need to check discord quite a lot if nothing important is going on or events
soft hound
I just use SteamVR's interface for Discord
green crypt
yeah that is just buggy as hell for me the steam vr menu i try to evide it as much as posible becouse vrchat has a 10 fps bug with it
soft hound
That only happens like, once a week for me, and is fixed by opening and closing the menu again a couple of times
haughty thistle
Easy fix for the 10fps bug: spam the SteamVR home button. Takes about 10 seconds to recover
Also, the bug rarely happens anymore
green crypt
right now i downloaded system explorer to have core affinity set on vrchat permanently on ryzen it actually helped reduce cpu frametime it by 50% limiting it to 4 cores on my 2700x
still happens once in a while tho the bug so just avoid it as much as i can
soft hound
Yeah, I've had mine limited to 4 cores for the past few months
I don't think that will be a problem with the 5000 series though, since they will all share the same cache, so core limiting won't be necessary to reduce frametimes
Which will be nice
haughty thistle
One benefit that Intel CPUs had over Ryzen amiright?
soft hound
green crypt
Still improves on Intel but not as much
Vr optimization are supper important did a lot and actually gives 15 a 25 FPS all the optimizations
green crypt
Nvidia driver optimization etc there was a tweet of someone I know who did research he had the highest index score in openvr benchmark on a 1080ti and there where rtx3090 bellow him
This is the optimization guide but most are Nvidia driver changes
green crypt
Yeah but there should be similar settings in the amd driver
Can ask him if he has a system with an amd GPU if he can find the equivalent settings if you want to
soft hound
It's fine, I've undervolted and overclocked my Vega as far as it will go, and I've optimized every setting I can think of already
I run my Index at 200%, and usually stay around 90-120 FPS
green crypt
Yeah but could be useful for other people as well who are on amd
idle blade
Update: I bought the quest 2
any games that will be too resource heavy for me 5600xt?
prob not right?
brazen elk
Congrats on the q2
idle blade
❤️
idle blade
at first im finna try it out w/out the link and just download games straight there
then ima try the link
idle blade
bet
"Type-C USB 3.2 Gen 2 "
That should be good for the link
Thanks
cant wait lol
brazen elk
What processor do you have?
brazen elk
So no bottlenecks there, you are good to go for vr
idle blade
oh wait how does audio work in vr
do the q2 have an audio jack?
or do you need wireless headphones
idle blade
bet, perfect for my p37x
sly falcon
Guess what came in today!!!!
rustic garnet
bruh wtf is up with these prices
sly falcon
WTF lol
sullen linden
ok so oculus charged my paypal account but it still says proccesing shipping isnt it suppose to give me tracking details after its charged
@brazen elk
u think u can answer since u have a quest
brazen elk
I’m not sure about that, when I preordered mine they took the money immediately but only send the tracking way later
sullen linden
oh u pre ordered
brazen elk
What did the site say about shipping time?
sullen linden
when i ordered it first said opened
then after a littpe bit it said proccesing shipment
brazen elk
I mean about time it’s supposed to arrive
brazen elk
Then they should send it tommorow
sullen linden
oh
brazen elk
Or early in the morning on the 4th
sullen linden
Alr thanks
brazen elk
Np
sly falcon
Stuck the vive sticker on the front, looks pretty good
sullen linden
nice
i wouldve wanted a vive but then I remembered i dont have a pc thats vr readying
ready*
my pc runs fortnite at 20 fps its a doo doo pc
thats why i got a quest
sly falcon
quest is pretty good, I have one for friends and family
sullen linden
yeah i really only wanted a quest because the hand tracking caught my attention
sly falcon
hand tracking isnt too good, it might just be my lighting tho
sullen linden
and i wanted to see if i could sideload a game that supports hand tracking onto it
since im learning how to code and use unity
sly falcon
nice, I cant code for shit
sullen linden
but i dont know how to make vr games but there is probably some template
gentle coral
@rustic garnet
Those prices make sense as the quest 128 GB model was originally a developer and professional use model only and cost about $700 US.
gentle coral
carmine wharf
Lol
gentle coral
The Microsoft pivot looks interesting, hope i can test it at a Microsoft event soon.
Though I think there are much better ways of doing it, as that method has a lot of flaws.
Haptics and controllers have quite a ways to go.
The good thing is that with 3d printing it is easier then ever to create and test stuff.
Many technologies need to work together to make a good experience.
gentle coral
A combination of controllers, gloves, and hand tracking would give the most versatility.
And the controller needs to be able to change shape slightly and be able to shift away from the hand (in a similar fashion to the pivot, but a sliding motion would introduce less torque.)
I would say combine pieces from
Tactical haptics
Haptic pivot from Microsoft
Myo armband
Foldaway haptics
HaptX
Teslasuit
Woojer vest
Drag:on controller
Nyoibo controller
Forcetube from ProtubeVR
Tactsuit
Ultraleap
Dualsense controller
Omnipulse haptic skin
Piezohapt haptic actuators
I know I forgot a few but these are the ones I remember off the top of my head, and I didn't include any un named research projects.
There is a lot of good technology, but it costs to much, and it to unwieldy right now.
Though the 4th industrial revolution is speeding up very fast, and is being spearheaded by XR tech quite a bit. Coupled with the increasing price to performance of new computers and it is an amazing combo.
sullen linden
wait so if i ordered an oculus quest and i see the 300 dollar charge in my paypal does that guarantee that my order wont be put on hold
i already ordered didnt mean to type "if"
sullen linden
anybody know
gray reef
From what I’ve seen, Oculus only charges you once your order has been shipped or is preparing to be shipped
I could be wrong though, so take it with a grain of salt
sullen linden
oh
because i had to order twice because the first time my order was put on hold but it didn't charge my scc
acc
but this time its in my paypal activity of the transaction
so im assuming it wont put my order on hold
ok so they can refund it so im hoping they dont refund it
sly falcon
I have to say, the vive is much more enjoyable when the screen isnt broken
carmine wharf
lol of course
sly falcon
did you see the old one?
fucker scammed me luckily he was dumb enough to accept returns
I think ive still got the image hold on
sly falcon
well it was USPS lmao
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380830912906002504/767846506962878525/image0.jpg this was the old one
sullen linden
@sly falcon the vive you ordered had a cracked scrren
sly falcon
I dont think it was cracked, it was too faint
sly falcon
anyway it doesnt matter now the one I just got work 100% and is near mint
- it came with the DAS
sullen linden
oh so ur old one was cracked
sly falcon
yeah
sullen linden
and not the one u just got
sly falcon
no the one I just got is basicly new
the old one was fine but had the damged screen im assuming from shipping
so yeah it was the old one
merry dawn
is there any other way to connect an oculus quest 2 to a computer without a thunderbolt 3?
harsh niche
you don't need thunderbolt 3?
any usb c that is 3.0 or higher
or is that what thunderbolt is
idc
also usb a to c works fine
gentle coral
Thunderbolt 3 is different from USB 3.0, both use a type C connector though.
merry dawn
so i can only use thunderbolt 3?
gentle coral
Any decent USB 3.0 or better cable that is type c to type c, or type c to type a should work fine.
sullen linden
wait so i can just use a normal usb c cable from walmart to connect my quest to a pc
brazen elk
As long as it’s usb 3.0+
sullen linden
o
also if it says nov 4th it will arrive will it actually arrive on the 4th because ive been seeing people saying it will take weeks to get to there house
brazen elk
I’m not sure about that
regal breach
You should get yourself a good quality cable.
I bought a good quality one and a cheaper one afterwards for the L-angle connector, but I've experienced a few dropouts already on the cheaper cable.
sullen linden
oh
rustic garnet
Link uses usb 2 iirc
brazen elk
What I dont like about link is how it just directly goes into the headset, I would never use it without a magnet connector cuz I know I would just jank the port out
haughty thistle
Link uses usb 2 iirc
@rustic garnet Well, you can use it with USB 2. But it's not recommended. Quest Link as-is almost completely maxes out the USB2 bandwidth, which means just a slight inconsistency in the data transfer can mean a loss of connection.
USB3 is highly recommend for Quest Link as the signal integrity is much better
rustic garnet
I promise someone here said they use usb2 because of latency or something
haughty thistle
Trust me, Quest Link on USB2 cables is very hit and miss. Just don't bother trying
rustic garnet
I don't even have a quest so
arctic adder
lol
pale sphinx
sullen linden
just not good enough man shouldve known you need a 3090 to run vr
haughty thistle
A single 3090? How's that supposed to render the two images needed for VR?
No, what you need are 2 3090s in SLI
zinc timber
SLI has stuttering issues, though
IMO it's better to use two PCs
the problem is that not a lot of headsets have dual PC support
sly falcon
damn preping for a quiz and I dont even have my vive controllers yet so I cant even take vr brakes :(
haughty thistle
||Anybody wanna tell Light?||
sullen linden
I wonder if Oculus has support for dual PC vrlink by using a usb c splitter cable
if they dont i really worry for what people's first impression of VR will be like due to all the stutter i imagine it'd make me sick
sly falcon
ive never heard of this dual pc thing so im assuming not
haughty thistle
Well... Way back, when VR was still 30fps, there was a VR Arcade company called Virtuality, and the used 2 Amigas to render a seperate image for each eye
sly falcon
30 fps vr 🤮
haughty thistle
But nowadays you can run an OG Vive on a 1060 6GB no problem
Hey, it was back in the late 80s
sly falcon
I run an OG vive on a 1650 and it runs fine
haughty thistle
3D graphics were virtually brand new back then
sly falcon
its really easy to run
dont worry about stutter unless you are running a quest + link
then your in trouble
haughty thistle
Yeah Quest Link (and by extension Quest 2 Link) are much harder to run then a native headset. Due to the compression that's needed. It's more load on your CPU, so Ryzen users might actually have the edge over Intel here. But not by much, as Quest Link doesn't use multiple cores afaik to reduce latency
fathom sigil
Ryzen 5600 migh be a poggers for that but the quest 2 seems to also be a potential bottleneck
Decompresses at ≈ 500mbps
sly falcon
does no man's sky work with wands or will I need to upgrade to knuckles to do that
fathom sigil
I don't even think the devs know the answer to that 
sly falcon
ill have to try it, the wands come later today
fathom sigil
Indeed
It seems that the supported devices are inconsistent, they support ps4 controllers in vr but not xbox one ones
carmine wharf
it works ok with my oculus touch controllers
sly falcon
im talking vive wands, which have iffy compatibility
like I know it works ive done it before but I never got to play the actual game just look around and look at my hands
it goes touch controllers, knuckles, vive wands
for compatibility
sullen linden
really hoping they don't put my order on hold
i still haven't got tracking details
but its coming tomorrow so maybe ill get it tomorrow
or even today if in lucky
sullen linden
yeah
also another thing im scared of is since i live in a apartment what if they go to the wrong house or what if i dont get too the door in time and someone steals my package
but thats not related
sly falcon
idk which is worse quest 2 or valve index, it seems like everything thats actually for sale outside of ebay is impossible to get :(
visual mesa
In what context worse?
sly falcon
backed up
visual mesa
Availability?
sly falcon
yea
sullen linden
oh
sly falcon
like the only reason I even have vr is because I got a once in a lifetime deal on a vive on ebay
sly falcon
yea but like it seems like nobody who ordered it has gotten it
sullen linden
oh
sly falcon
im in a couple other vr discs and almost everyone is still waiting on their quest 2 to even ship
sullen linden
well now im not even sure ill get the device on nov 4th
sly falcon
makes me feel bad because my grandma fell for a scalper trying to get one for fitness :(
sullen linden
whats a scalper
sly falcon
ok so you have a 400 dollar oculus quest 1 rihgt
sullen linden
yes
sullen linden
oh so she basically got a quest for 200 dollars above price
sly falcon
yeah
sullen linden
oh
sly falcon
and it was the 64 gig version
sullen linden
thats messed up
sly falcon
yeah
look at valve indexs on ebay its really funny how high they go
I saw one for 19k
sullen linden
yeah
sly falcon
another for like 50k lol people actually think they are gonna get money for these things
sly falcon
ive gotten some good deals on ebay but still, its really not the best place to buy vr, it took me 2 months to get this vive
and even then you cant trust USPS to bring it to you ok
sullen linden
yeah
thats another thing im scared up
if my order gets put on hol
Package theft
and shipping damage
and if ill even get the headset
sly falcon
well oculus uses fedex I think, they are alot better with delivering it, my quest 1 came with 0 bumps/scratches even on the box
sullen linden
Oh ok
sly falcon
so other than package theft you have nothing to worry about
sly falcon
it should be and if its not you have full privilage to return it
sullen linden
oh
sullen linden
im in the us
sly falcon
yeah then it is
you shouldnt have an issue unless it gets stolen, if you are worried about this then get a wyze cam, they are pretty cheap and should capture the theft in enough detail
to report it/ give proof
sullen linden
oh ok
carmine wharf
scanner sombre vr mode sucks
well, at least on my quest
everything is blurry, the teleport distance is tiny, and you have to press a button to teleport after you point, you dont like press up on the stick and let go
sullen linden
what is scanner sombre
carmine wharf
a game
carmine wharf
what happened?
sullen linden
@rustic garnet wdym
rustic garnet
rift cv1 brokey facebook dunc are
violet charm
sullen linden
why would you need root on a quest
rustic garnet
i think i do and i contacted support but they ghosted me straight up
rustic garnet
i shouldn't have to tho... 😞
sullen linden
yeah true
rustic garnet
remember when oculus customer support was concidered good lmao
sullen linden
just keep contacting them
carmine wharf
remember when oculus customer support was concidered good lmao
@rustic garnet yes lol
gentle coral
Even broken Rift CV1's are worth quite a bit. I need to start buying broken VR headsets to repair or use as backup parts. I should also pay a friend to reverse engineer the cable for the CV1, rift S, index, and WMR headsets. Broken cables bricking a 400 to 700 dollar headset is so absurd.
rustic garnet
The pinout is already known, but the microsoldering required to fix a cv1 cable us apparently a pita
gentle coral
Oh send me the pinout link, i know people who can microsolder in their sleep.
sly falcon
why cant they sell them again, plenty of people still own the CV1 its not like they just dissapeared
meanwhile HTC still offers repairs and replacement parts for the OG vive
gentle coral
Oculus stopped producing the cables in late 2018 (if my memory is correct). And no one was allowed to make third party cables.
sly falcon
thats decent support actually, when did the rift come out?
gentle coral
2016, but they literally stopped support right when they stopped selling it, which is bad
sly falcon
gonna stand by my meanwhile HTC still offers repairs and replacement parts for the OG vive
I get that they have trash products now but thats some damn good support
gentle coral
Picture getting an iPhone 12 and it having no support the week after they stop selling it.
Htc hass support down, now if only their recent headsets were any good.
sly falcon
I remember when there was hype around the cosmos, I feel bed for everyone who ordered it
pre ordered
sullen linden
o
violet charm
decagear looks pretty neat
sullen linden
the controllers look like a combination of the touch and knuckles
sullen linden
o
gloomy crater
HTC looks like the way to go for people who want to get into (not wildly expensive) VR without the ties to facebook, or waiting until the Reverb G2 becomes widely available or the decagear comes out. Only thing I don't like is the controllers.
sly falcon
the cosmos? hell no
rustic garnet
Yeah no
Whatever happened to wmr
weren't they like 200 dollars
that was fucking awesome
carmine wharf
Whatever happened to wmr
@rustic garnet nothing. it still exists
rustic garnet
There's like one headset
And its seven hundred bucks
Hardly the same business model
sly falcon
is it just me or is the "thin face" or whatever you call it a thicker padding
on the OG vive
I cant check because thats what I use in my vive
gloomy crater
I meant the OG vive. The cosmos and most of the newer vive headsets are overpriced
WMR is wonk in my eyes. I've heard bad things and I'm just not too keen on the advantages
sly falcon
my vive controllers were supposed to arrive today, was hoping to relieve some test stress :(
they didnt
digital scaffold
Anybody know any decent facial interface for the quest 2? The default one gave me a pretty severe alergic reaction.
digital scaffold
Yeah. I was looking at those, but they haven't released them yet.
Apparently a few other people reported the exact same thing.
sly falcon
get them once they do Im pretty sure until then ur fucked
digital scaffold
Yeah.
sly falcon
does it turn red or like hurt, because if it turns red thats just a pressure point thing
digital scaffold
My face puffed up.
digital scaffold
Yeah.
sly falcon
yeah vrcover is ur best bet
digital scaffold
Not the end of the world, though. Stock interface is ass, anyways.
sly falcon
it really is, on the quest 1 my face started like burning from the cloth after about like 40 minutes, pathetic
meanwhile im playing like 3 hours a time on my vive not even knowing a minute has passed
digital scaffold
Yeah. Big shame since the quest 2's hardware it's self is really good.
sly falcon
well they had to cheap out somewhere
digital scaffold
That's true.
sly falcon
im not suprised the strap and facial thingy is shit tbh
digital scaffold
Ends up being about the same price, anyways.
sly falcon
its kinda oculus' thing to make an amazing headset with ass comfort
sly falcon
if the strap is shit, get a vive DAS and get the adapter, I use a DAS rn with my (not) quest 2 and its really comfy so id imagine its good there too
digital scaffold
Yeah, frankenquest.
sly falcon
yeah frankenquests are a godsend, my friend has one
no more feeling like an old person with neck issues after 40 mins from front heavyness
digital scaffold
Haha, yeah.
sullen linden
ok i think my order will be here maybe on nov 5th
beecause i ordered on nov 2
at 1am
and i dont think Oculus has ever done 2 day delivery
and i havent even gotten my tracking details yet
ok actually nvm people are saying they received it 2 days after release
since they pre-ordered it
foggy aspen
dayum what vs consoles do yuo guys use?
digital scaffold
Visual Studio, of course.
sullen linden
ok
steady zealot
What's a good VR Headset
I'm not really into VR Games, but I'll just use it for VR Chat or for videos in VR
haughty thistle
If you don't mind Facebook knowing every single detail about you, that you didn't even know about yourself, and don't mind a significantly higher load on your PC then with a native Headset, the Quest 2 sounds like a good option
For brand new headsets that don't tie into Facebook, the Reverb G2 really is your next best option.
If you don't mind going with a used headset, the OG Vive or any of the WMR offerings are good choices too
But yeah, the data Facebook collects through their headset should be a Warning sign for everyone imo: https://youtu.be/UYaUpCYzVHE
steady zealot
Yeah don't really care if they spy on me
haughty thistle
Watch that video, before you do your final decision ^^
haughty thistle
WMR, Rift S and both the Quest Headsets don't have any external sensors
sly falcon
I dont wanna have to set all that shit up
@steady zealot no, since the OG rift oculus has made their Insight tracking system availible on all of their headset, hence the inward facing tracking rings
steady zealot
oh bet
hushed bramble
Do I need to logIn with my Facebook account on Oculus rifs S if I gonna use steam?
(the price on them in my region dropped)
haughty thistle
You have to use a Facebook account to use the headset at all, if you don't already have an Oculus account
Even if you want to use the Rift S purely with SteamVR, this account requirement still exists
hushed bramble
wow
So risky to buy from oculus now... Have a chance to get just randomly banned... just not cool(
and at the same time they have the best price to quality in Ukraine
haughty thistle
:/
Sorry, I can't help.you with that. Facebook has always tried to go for the low end, but they've been requiring a Login since forever to set up their headsets...
If you can find a WMR headset on the used market, it would be a good second option. Especially since you don't need an M$ account to set it up
(or a used OG Vive)
sly falcon
used OG vive is a really good budget option, thats what I always reccomend to people
tho the wands arent the best
BUT you can get knuckles
sly falcon
its kinda hard to get on a budget of 200 bucks (my budget at the time) but its not impossible
which is why my pfp is what it is
How much battery does the q2 have
@idle blade about 2 hours from what ive heared
but only if you are like hardcore all day
standby is multiple days
haughty thistle
Yeah about 2 hours. But you have to keep in mind that Quest Link runs the headset at full blast, so unless you use a Tpy-C port with PD, the battery won't last long in Link mode
sly falcon
someone asked me what oculus was so I put the entire wikipedia artical for it in the chat lol
haughty thistle
The OG Quest lasts about 3x as long in Link mode on a regular USB 3 port, just as a reference, but the OG Quest uses lower power hardware
sly falcon
I kinda want to get superhot vr but im scared im finna put a vive wand through the wall lol
like ive got it on the quest but the touch controllers dont have the same weight
brazen elk
lol
sullen linden
guys should i buy the new Oculus quest 2?
rustic garnet
If you don't mind facebook yeah
sullen linden
i have no problem with that facebook account
rustic garnet
Well have fun in vr then
sly falcon
Does anyone know what the name of this version of the 3 in one cable is, im tryna recommend it to someone
Like the one thats included is like flat but this is more traditional and routable
idk what its called bcause I bought it as a bundle
also while im at it where can I buy the to pc USB cable im missing that
sullen linden
doesn oculus give you a tracking number when your order ships?
soft hound
@sly falcon That's the standard 3-in-1 cable, they updated the cable from that ribbon one shortly after initial launch, since that single cable was a much better design
sly falcon
ohhhh so my old vive (broke) was an oooooold vive
sly falcon
think my vive controllers coming today 
sullen linden
wait u got a headset with no controllers
so u had to order controllers seperately
also are you able to pair different motion controllers to the oculus quest
like can i connect knuckles controllers to my quest
rustic garnet
Nop
still torrent
Does a "split IPD" make sense? My optometrist measured my IPD and said one eye is 31.5 and the other is 32.5, giving a 64 IPD.
I think they measured pupil distance to bridge of nose.
Wish my mom didn't drink all that nuclear waste when she was pregnant.
gray reef
My IPD is also fucked, one of my eyes is also slightly larger than the other 
still torrent
I can't even see out of both eyes.
Would be cool if I could just mirror one panel to the other, only render 1/2 the scene.
rustic garnet
Wait what
still torrent
?
idle blade
quest 2 is here boys
still torrent
@rustic garnet I have something called alternating esotropia. I can either have left eye "on", right eye "off", or vice-versa.
Caused by untreated strabismus as a kid.
3D doesn't work for me unless it's headtracked parallax, magic eye puzzles, etc.
I use my left eye predominantly but my right eye for distance.
Can't use both at once, though. I have monocular vision.
sand pewter
Oh dip
still torrent
Still amped to get the G2 soon.
carmine wharf
Stupid question, but what do you mean one eye on, the other eye off? How would you switch between them?
gaunt hull
Look it up
carmine wharf
I would but what am I even supposed to look up?
gaunt hull
Alternating esotropia
gaunt hull
Wikipedia does an ok job
still torrent
It's just always been like this as far back as I can recall.
gray reef
Oof
At least some random ass truck driver gets a free controller they probably can’t use
sly falcon
like srsly its running on 2 days late
how hard is it to ship two damn sticks
and whats dumb is even if they refund it, I cant get new ones because I got them used for like 80 bucks, two new ones would cost 260 :(
and now ive essentially spent 200 bucks to sit in steam home
sullen linden
yo
i just learned that sidequest existsed
but it was only on pc
but i saw it had linux support
so i downloaded it on chromebook
the quest is cooler than i thought
carmine wharf
Didn't know chromebooks could run sidequest
fathom sigil
I didn't know Chromebook could run anything at all
sullen linden
yeah im not that rich
i dont have windows laptop or pc lol
only reason i got a quest was because ive been saving that money since 2016 christmas and when i saw the oculus quest for 299 i bought it
plus shipping and handling ofcourse
sly falcon
I relate
sullen linden
hey does anybody know if they knock. on your dpor
door
or they send u an email
like how will i know when my quest gets here
digital scaffold
Depends on the driver and how their day was going.
But if you set up text messages or emails for the tracking number, they will notify around when it arrives.
sullen linden
yeah i never got a tracking number
arent i suppose to get a tracking number when my order ships
ay yo im an idiot
nvm
bro
nvm
i dont have a tracking number
im worried
sullen linden
@digital scaffold oculus website
its good
ill just wait it out
ill contact them if i don't receive my item
digital scaffold
Yeah.
sullen linden
ok so i learned that the box will arrive empty sometimes
sly falcon
wands are finally moving, arriving this weekend
haughty thistle
👍
dry dove
Valve makes me confused
Ive been waiting 16 weeks
and people got it when they only waited for like 10-12 weeks
Not very cash money
haughty thistle
Seems to be heavily region dependent. Europe ships a lot faster now then NA, but Europe also couldn't order the Index throughout December and January
sly falcon
people in maryland seem to get it really fast, my friend's is coming in 1 week
carmine wharf
Idk
sly falcon
fastest are probably near where there being made because its right off the assembly line right on the truck
carmine wharf
But that wouldn't make the waiting list faster
sly falcon
idk I dont know alot about like mail and shit
haughty thistle
Usually, from the assembly line it goes to a distribution center, and from there it goes all over the place. So closest to the main distribution center is probably the quickest
haughty thistle
But it do be expensive
sly falcon
its an index for impatient people
I know I would be pissed if I ordered an index
they should have just made a 2018 refresh of the vive that bumps up the res a bit
haughty thistle
Not really
haughty thistle
The Vive Cosmos comes with 1.0 Vive Wands which are in no way comparable and it comes with 1.0 Lighthouses
sly falcon
exactly
a late 2018 refresh of the vive with a better screen for maybe 50 bucks higher would have been way better
then it would be semi worth it
haughty thistle
The actual headset also isn't really comparable, as it only runs at 90Hz, has a smaller FOV, and headphones instead of over ear speakers
sly falcon
is there a difference between headphones and OES?
haughty thistle
Yep
sly falcon
what is it
haughty thistle
The speakers of the Index hover above your ears and produce a more immersive sounds
sly falcon
not really an audio guy I just kinda get headphones and leave it alone
haughty thistle
Headphones are sitting on your ears
sly falcon
The speakers of the Index hover above your ears and produce a more immersive sounds
@haughty thistle cant you make the DAS do that
for the OG vive?
haughty thistle
Eh
sly falcon
im assuming the DAS isnt as immersive but its pretty good by my standards
haughty thistle
The problem with that is, the headphones are designed to close out outside sound, or else they don't sound right and are significantly lacking in bass
sly falcon
what does the button on the side of the vive do?, like can I bind it to things like passthru?
This obe
One*
it doesnt seem to do anything in/out of steamvr
is it supposed to turn on the headset? like turn on steamvr
sullen linden
it could be a power button
sly falcon
nvmd I figured it out
sullen linden
what does it do
sullen linden
yeah
sly falcon
when its coming?
sullen linden
tommorow hopefully
sly falcon
poggers
sly falcon
my controllers are coming hopefully tommorow, its at the dist center
so thats just wishful thinking
sullen linden
yeah
sullen linden
i just hope there wont be any complications or anything
sly falcon
well im sure oculus's exellent customer service will help you with anything -_-
sullen linden
like what if they just give me an empty box
sly falcon
lol
that doesnt happen
if it does pop it on reddit, get some karma
then return it
in all seriousness, you do not wanna deal with oculus customer service
sullen linden
or what if its damaged
like i see videos of delivery services kicking ur package to ur door
sly falcon
thats just USPS
sullen linden
oh
sly falcon
the one oculus uses is great
sullen linden
oh
sly falcon
I ordered my first vive from USPS, they somehow broke the screen
which is INSIDE the headset
sullen linden
Dang
sullen linden
oh
sly falcon
its the late 2016 model, so better cable, came with the deluxe audio strap, actually worked, came with the original box
even came with the stickers
sullen linden
nice
sly falcon
yeah gl on the quest 2
sly falcon
@tall siren DOOM Vfr of GzDoom
I just realised what VFR stands for im dumb
Virtual Fucking Reality
sly falcon
oh yeah GZDoom is awesome
I thought it would be gimmiky AF but its a surprisingly good port
tall siren
The weapon modernization is a bit of a let down. But the satisfaction of using them is just great
sly falcon
ive been thinking about getting the elder scrolls, should I go strait for skyrim 4 vr?
tall siren
Your in luck since I just tried it...and
Its not great
just check out steam reviews
sly falcon
shit really?
sly falcon
what about fallout and doom vr
tall siren
Unless you do some HEAVY modding, it's not going to be a good experience
Haven't tried the others
But when it comes to my experience, steam reviews of VR are really accurate
sly falcon
well isnt modding the game half the game
tall siren
haha well Im sure that is true. I'm a hardcore purist.
sly falcon
reviews are mostly positive
sly falcon
oh thats nice, it shows negitave on the side so you can easily see the issues with the game
tall siren
yeah. You can't reload with your hands, sadly. But it is a really fun arcade advanture shooter looter
tall siren
xd
sly falcon
omg people, stop playing your oculus quest outside, it hurts to watch
tall siren
when the sun is out, that's a bad idea.
sly falcon
yeah, what are people thinking
tall siren
😄
sly falcon
its always in BRIGHT light
sullen linden
my quest most likely wont be here
there seems to be nobody who has gotten an oculus device in less than a week
tall siren
What do you mean?
Because of shipping issues or because out of stock?
I live in swe and mine arrived in 2 days.
sullen linden
oh