virtual-reality

[flat pawn]

I'd probably get those for myself if I wasn't planning on sharing this thing around after covid

[carmine wharf]

btw what kind of media are we talking about

[flat pawn]

he didn't say :)

[carmine wharf]

well im wondering because buying an index just for watching videos in vr is plain stupid

[sullen linden]

ACTUALLY

[carmine wharf]

oh..

[flat pawn]

yeah

[sullen linden]

can anyone help me one tiny huhh... hiccup?

[flat pawn]

lol

[carmine wharf]

can anyone help me one tiny huhh... hiccup?
@sullen linden what is it

[sullen linden]

it's obviously VR and it involves Alyx

[carmine wharf]

ok

[sullen linden]

whenever I play it, there's this stutter whenever I go to move

[flat pawn]

in the headset itself?

[sullen linden]

i tried everything from lowering setting, reconfiguring thge headset and all

[carmine wharf]

have you verified game files? does tracking work fine in other games? only when moving?

[flat pawn]

when you say move, do you mean physically moving your head around

or do you mean taking steps ingame

[sullen linden]

whenever I move in-game and moving my head yes

only Alyx does this

[carmine wharf]

i didnt experience that when i played through so i dont really know

[sullen linden]

I didn't either on my first run

but after I finished it, it just started to happen

can mods cause some problems?

[carmine wharf]

ive played through like one and a quarter times and i havent experienced it

[flat pawn]

which headset

[carmine wharf]

can mods cause some problems?
@sullen linden probably

[sullen linden]

I am using the vive cosmos elite

[carmine wharf]

hm

[sullen linden]

as that was the only one available

[bold plank]

Turns out we dont have reverb and it cant be shipped

F

[sullen linden]

Like the index

[carmine wharf]

@sullen linden try verifying game files and reconnecting your headset

[sullen linden]

did that

[carmine wharf]

ah

[sullen linden]

still a stutter

could updating the sensor bases help?

[flat pawn]

maybe?

did you try running the game without mods

when did it start

[sullen linden]

I'll take the mods off completely then try it again

[carmine wharf]

you should probably keep everything up to date anyway, and wait the cosmos elite has base stations wtf??

[sullen linden]

y-yes??

I got the full kit

almost $2kAUD

[flat pawn]

it has cameras on the front for passthrough only I think

[sullen linden]

yes

it does

[flat pawn]

there you go,

[carmine wharf]

but.. i thought the cosmos series was designed for inside out tracking

[flat pawn]

nop, there's only two cameras

it would be horrible

[carmine wharf]

https://www.vive.com/us/product/vive-cosmos/features/ this doesnt look like 2 cameras to me

[sullen linden]

There's one each side, and two at the front

[flat pawn]

oh nvm

[sullen linden]

that;s

different

[flat pawn]

I was only remembering the front ones I guess

[carmine wharf]

i know

so is the cosmos elite just a glorified vive then

[sullen linden]

for me, it was literally the only thing I can buy

[carmine wharf]

ah

[sullen linden]

if I saw a index, I'd get that

but they're not selling them in Australia
'

[carmine wharf]

they arent?

ripp

[sullen linden]

nope

[bold plank]

Yeah i found the oculus rift s, quest 1, 2 and htc cosmos

And some cheap Chinese ones

[sullen linden]

if could get it from other means, but that'll invalid warranty and all of those things

and not even sure it be legit

[bold plank]

I can order online but the heavier the shipping box, the more i pay

They will take 100$ for shipping and delivery if i order quest from amazon

But it would still be cheaper than the local store by 200$

Regular oculus quest is 600$ here

[carmine wharf]

damn

what currency is that

that cant be usd

[bold plank]

Its 180 kwd thats almost 600 usd

[carmine wharf]

oh god

[bold plank]

588 to be specific

Somehow amazon only ships specific products, not everything

[sullen linden]

is there a way to fully ABSOLUTELY reset and basically "resync" everything and anything for the vr?

[carmine wharf]

factory reset steamvr maybe? idk

[carmine wharf]

idk why doesnt it

[flat pawn]

When does it say hardware error

How far in do you get

What menu

And does the headset cut to black or something?

[haughty thistle]

Steam support is terrible
Well, only if you try and get support for a non-native headset (like Oculus). Support for Index is great

[sullen linden]

The index is basically made for steam though

it was made by Valve

With that connect thing

better then the vive cosmos elite I got which was almost $2kAUD

the index is worth it though

when did you got the Oculus quest and what one?

ah good, I was gonna cry if ya said recently

there's the quest 2, the original quest you got is basically useless and worthless now (no offence)

[carmine wharf]

so salt im gonna ask you a dumb question here

[sullen linden]

rift s is good

also discontinued from what I read

[carmine wharf]

are you keeping the oculus app open and opening steamvr from inside of it, or just opening steamvr with the headset plugged in

[sullen linden]

Do this for the rift s

Edit: I manged to fix it by uninstalling SteamVR then going to the folder where it was installed C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam\steamapps\common and deleting the SteamVR folder that the uninstall left over and then reinstalling SteamVR. I assume some config files were messed up and didn't get removed when just doing a basic uninstall.

even the one I listed above?

Specifically deleting the steam VR folder after installing it?

1. Updated the graphics card?
2. Disable or uninstall razer cortex and synapse? (I am searching through results on an possible fix)

according to the results it solved the problem, so give it a try

[flat pawn]

I doubt it

[haughty thistle]

If you have problems with an Oculus headset, better contact Oculus support. They might suck, but at least they can help you. Steam Support is not responsible for Oculus products

And depending on your GPU:
If you have an AMD card, always try a number of recent and older driver versions if you have problems with VR. As AMD likes to f* up VR support again and again. Sometimes you need to go back a couple of driver versions
On Nvidia, if one driver version doesn't work, the next or last one will also work.

Oh, if one doesn't work, you only have to go back one version to get a working one (or just wait until they patch it in a couple of days). AMD likes to keep things f*ed for couple of versions sometimes I heard

[bold plank]

I bought the quest 2, i couldn't find any other VRs with a fair shipping cost

[harsh niche]

But i also want to watch .... You know
@bold plank my boy 😎

[bold plank]

Thats top priority tho

[harsh niche]

Honestly, I think you'd need at least a 3080 to run the Q2 at acceptable performance. Then again: you could just lower the Resolution until it's about equal with the Q1

[bold plank]

Ngl

[harsh niche]

lol no

[bold plank]

I have 2080 ti but will get 3080 if its available

[harsh niche]

you don't need that much power to run this thing

no other reviewers or youtubers have said one thing about it so obviously it isn't as much as an issue as you say it to be

@bold plank ever heard of VR Paradise?

pretty good looking game

[bold plank]

Sounds interesting

I think i saw it on steam

Niioce

no other reviewers or youtubers have said one thing about it so obviously it isn't as much as an issue as you say it to be
@harsh niche I don't have any issues with VR except that I didnt enjoy oculus go that much. Sure it is convenient to use it wirelessly but only 1 controller and can barely find games

I hope to be able to enjoy the q2 more than go, try all the good vr games and " other stuff"

[harsh niche]

i was talking about the performance thing

he said the compression killed your fps by half or something

[carmine wharf]

it didnt for me

i got full 72fps on my 2060

[harsh niche]

nice

[haughty thistle]

Half compared to the Index. And this was proven by other people as well. It really depends on the game though. Like I said, BeatSaber runs perfectly fine, HLA does too, but that should not be taken as a performance measure, as HLA runs at a lower render scaling to achieve perfect frame rates on even Potato PCs at high details and BeatSaber even runs on a Potato PC at 150% render scale. I actually took VRC as a measurement, went into an Invite only instance, with me being the only person there, same avatar, same world, and just looked at the FPS while looking around. It was a relatively easy world, managing about 90fps on my Index, and less then 40 on Quest Link

[carmine wharf]

so if i get half as many frames on my quest you are saying ill be able to run 144hz mode on the index

[haughty thistle]

If you get constant 72fps on the Quest, 120+ should be pretty doable

[carmine wharf]

ok

google cardboard

/s

[haughty thistle]

Best budget SteamVR headset? Samsung Odyssey I'd say. It does run WMR, but the WMR integration into SteamVR is pretty good (at least better then Oculus xD). If you're looking for native, then a used OG Vive is your best option

[carmine wharf]

for $400 oculus is the best steam vr but if you cant get it to work then

why are you selling it so soon

[haughty thistle]

Don't get me wrong, the experience is more seamless with Oculus and SteamVR, then with WMR (as you'd need to install extra software with WMR), but unlike Oculus, WMR doesn't have much overhead when running with SteamVR

[carmine wharf]

well yeah, with oculus it has to do guardian and all that

[haughty thistle]

WMR does too

[carmine wharf]

hey chickenbread, how loud are the index base stations?

[haughty thistle]

The difference being, that WMR only runs the Home/dashboard software when you actually call it, while Oculus runs it's dashboard all the time, while active with an Oculus headset

Depends on the amount of base stations. 1 is basically in-audible, 2 is a slight humm, that you'd only hear when you really listen for it and 3 and 4 is a bit more noticeable, but still disappears with the slightest in-game noise

[carmine wharf]

i wish i hadnt gotten razer stuff. all i can do now is hope that it doesnt affect my valve index when i get it. it doesnt affect my quest over link so i might be fine

[haughty thistle]

To put it in more relatable terms: 4 base stations = noise level of an idle harddrive, just higher pitch, and each base station less is less noticable

[carmine wharf]

Depends on the amount of base stations. 1 is basically in-audible, 2 is a slight humm, that you'd only hear when you really listen for it and 3 and 4 is a bit more noticeable, but still disappears with the slightest in-game noise
@haughty thistle then why did i see a video of one base station squeaking super loud and everybody said that it was the normal sound in the comments

[haughty thistle]

That's a defactive one, I guess?

I got 4 base stations, and it's barely any louder then my WD Black drive in my PC, when it's in idle

Lemme see if I can record it

[carmine wharf]

wait why do you have 4?

[haughty thistle]

Fullbody Tracking?

[carmine wharf]

ah

i wonder if base station 1.0 can be used alongside base station 2.0 for larger play spaces

[haughty thistle]

Nope. You can only use up to 2 1.0 Base Stations on a single playspace or up to 16 2.0 Base Stations on a single playspace, but you can't mix-and-match between 1.0s and 2.0s

[carmine wharf]

16????

[bold plank]

Do i need oculus link to use Q2 to my pc or i can use any usb c to usb a cable?

[carmine wharf]

you can use the one that comes with it i believe but for best link experience u need a usb 3.0 cable

[haughty thistle]

1.0s use a very rudementary system to sync each other, while 2.0s run constantly, and encode their base station ID in a 4 bit integer into the lazer beam. 4 bit = 16 states

[bold plank]

I mean like i do have multiple usb 3.0 ports but i dont have usb c ports

[carmine wharf]

1.0s use a very rudementary system to sync each other, while 2.0s run constantly, and encode their base station ID in a 4 bit integer into the lazer beam. 4 bit = 16 states
@haughty thistle sync cable is a rudimentary system?

[bold plank]

Only 1 on my mobo and i use it daily

[carmine wharf]

I mean like i do have multiple usb 3.0 ports but i dont have usb c ports
@bold plank you can use a regular usb 3.0 full size

[haughty thistle]

To use the Quest 2 with Link through a cable, you need a USB 3.0 cable additionally. The cable that comes with the headset is only about .5m longs

[bold plank]

Nice

[carmine wharf]

wait what, they got rid of the usb 2.0 beta?

[bold plank]

I thought i needed the cable from the Oculus themselves

80$ for a cable is a lot

[carmine wharf]

yeah i got mine for $15. its heavy and kinda sucks but it works

[haughty thistle]

The USB 2.0 thingy only works on the Quest 1 since it's using a lower res. Idk if you can still use it on the Quest 2, but you'll definitely loos image clarity that way

[bold plank]

Just a good quality usb cable is fine i guess right?

[carmine wharf]

yeah as long as its usb c on at least one end and usb 3.0

[haughty thistle]

Yep. The higher the quality the better. My link cable is a Ugreen 5m USB 3.0 active extension with an .9m Anker Powerline USB 3.0 Typ-A to Typ-C Cable

Although, the extension cable alone was like 20€

[carmine wharf]

i bought the anker cable oculus themselves recommend i believe

my only issue with it is the sleeving around the cable is far too stiff and heavy

and well, the fact that usb C doesnt really seem to be designed to stay in for this use, so it falls out always

oh and the cable comes out the side so i always have to lean to the left slightly

[haughty thistle]

my only issue with it is the sleeving around the cable is far too stiff and heavy
@carmine wharf That's the problem with long copper cables. If you want a more flexible one, it's either going to be lower quality, or fiber. With the latter you've reached 80$ territory. This is at least true for lengths of 5m

I also got the Anker cable that Oculus recommended, but like I said the .9m variant, and have pretty much no problems with the cable falling out of the connector

[harsh niche]

i got the 15ft partylink usb-c to usb-c

guess ill see how well it works tomorrow lol

[flat pawn]

Does quest 2 still limit you in vrc even though it's a lot more powerful

[bold plank]

Is this good for the link?

[harsh niche]

i was walking it around my room to see how far I could go and it seems flexible enough

[flat pawn]

Avatar visibility and whatnot

While not tethered

[harsh niche]

what's vrc?

[flat pawn]

Vrchat

[harsh niche]

o0hh

[haughty thistle]

The Quest Version of VRC so far will not change any restrictions from the OG Quest Variant

[bold plank]

My friend says this is actually a tether cable for cameras but should work for the vr

[flat pawn]

That's a bummer, there should be a quest 2 version with less limitations

[harsh niche]

https://www.amazon.com/PartyLink-Type-C-Compatible-Transfer-Charging/dp/B0893RJHYV/ref=pd_lpo_328_t_0/146-8796335-1621951?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0893RJHYV&pd_rd_r=5e796324-f700-444a-bd23-568b971fb541&pd_rd_w=veYa7&pd_rd_wg=KKGt3&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-94d3-61b87b52511b&pf_rd_r=7SV9800NRXPXD3P8B52A&psc=1&refRID=7SV9800NRXPXD3P8B52A I have this one

it comes with 2 cable strap things which is very nice for the cable and for my headphones so they don't get tangled on me

[haughty thistle]

From what I've heard, they prefer not to make it more complicated for Avatar and World makers by introducing another "platform" to Optimize for or make the experience on the OG Quest worse.

[flat pawn]

Why not allow the full pc version onto the quest 2 then

Or am I overestimating its power

[haughty thistle]

But imo, if you don't want to be "that" guy with the Quest, then playing VRC on Desktop is a much more pleasant experience imo

[flat pawn]

Oh of course

And if you want wireless you could remote desktop and get your wireless experience

[haughty thistle]

A. Yes, you are overestimating the Quest Power
B. Shaders are pre-compiled for the Platform, so the PC Versions are all compiled for x86, while the Quest ones are compiled for Android

[flat pawn]

Gotcha

Then there's no real upgrade to be had from a rift s

At least as far as vrc goes

[haughty thistle]

VRC has difficulties getting playable framerates on High-End PCs, how's an "overclocked phone processor" supposed to manage it? xD

[flat pawn]

Haha very true

[carmine wharf]

wait does the quest actually run android

like if i wanted to could i use it as a "phone" even though it has no sim card

[haughty thistle]

Eh.

[flat pawn]

Android based os

[carmine wharf]

ok

[flat pawn]

But it ain't a "phone"

[carmine wharf]

so its like chromeos but oculus

[haughty thistle]

It's a pretty heavily modified variant of Android. I don't know if you can install any Android APK, but I know that BSMF triggers standard Android dialogs to appear for certain steps of the installation

[flat pawn]

I don't know much about chromeos

I just know it's really limited

[haughty thistle]

The Quest runs bog standard Android. Just with a very heavily modified Vendor package on-top

[carmine wharf]

ok

[dire cradle]

Hi is my pc enough for the quest 2, amd R7 3700X, 16GB ram, and 5700xt

[haughty thistle]

Don't expect more demanding games to run at more then medium details would be my guess

[dire cradle]

Me?

[haughty thistle]

But then again, I haven't seen real world performance benchmarks with the 5700XT and the Q2

Yep

[dire cradle]

Ok

[harsh niche]

.

[carmine wharf]

oculus wants to update and its 12gb? goddamn

i dont have 12gb free on my drive because for some reason you cannot install oculus on the d drive

[bold plank]

Is 3 meter cable enough for the vr headset?

Cant seem to find 4 or 5

[harsh niche]

no

3 is not enough

[bold plank]

Hmm

Online cable is 27$ shipping is 40$

Shipping more expensive than cable

[carmine wharf]

valve index compatibility test says i exceed the requirements and steamvr test gives me around 120fps

i get above 150 sometimes and below 130 sometimes depending on what camera angle it uses

[haughty thistle]

Yeah, Oculus Software is a heavy weight, and it doesn't like to be installed on another driver other then C:. So much in-fact that they hide the way of changing the installation drive selection behind a parameter. You have to start the Oculus Software installer from a command-line with /drive=DRIVELETTER so example would be C:/path/to/OculusSetup.exe /drive=D to install it on the Driver with the letter "D"

It's stupid, but that's all you can do...
Here the official Support document describing the procedure: https://support.oculus.com/1142129705828091/

[harsh niche]

can't you just move the folder or would that screw everything up

sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't

[carmine wharf]

ok so should i uninstall and reinstall it using command prompt

and does it have all the same functionality on D:

[harsh niche]

D: don't be sad

hehe

[carmine wharf]

oop

[harsh niche]

i couldn't resist

[flat pawn]

D:<

[carmine wharf]

lol

oops im a dumbass

its :D

[flat pawn]

C: looks like a big smiley face

[carmine wharf]

no what

im a double dumbass

[flat pawn]

c:

small smile

[harsh niche]

D:filehere/epicgame/supercool

[carmine wharf]

D:epicgames/local/superhot

i uninstalled oculus, got the installer again in my downloads folder and now i tried to run the command and it isnt working

C:users/username/downloads is unavailable or something

i got it

username is miste

sick, now it says its installed to D:Oculus

[flat pawn]

wait did you actually put "username"

[carmine wharf]

yes cuz im dumb and forgot how windows worked for a second

[flat pawn]

[haughty thistle]

Here's my recommendation: go to the folder you've downloaded the installer to, unselect everything, do a Shift + Right Click and select "Run PowerShell Window here" or "Run Command Line Window here". That will open up a command window already in the right directory and you only have to type OculusSetup.exe /drive=D

[carmine wharf]

thanks for the recomendation but i got it lol

[haughty thistle]

I know a bit late, but that's another way of doing it

[carmine wharf]

im probably gonna uninstall oculus after i get my index anyway

but yay now ive got an extra 10gb on my C: drive

and now ill be able to update it so i can actually use it again

[haughty thistle]

I had Oculus installed even before owning a Quest, in case I was interested in any Oculus exclusives. Now I just have it because I have the Climb (and occasionally play that through Revive) and on occasion to use my Quest through Link

[carmine wharf]

yeah id use it for revive if my quest purchases transfered over. all that id get is space pirate trainer i believe

[haughty thistle]

Depends on the Title

[carmine wharf]

i dont really play space pirate trainer anymore and since i may end up keeping my quest anyway i can just play it on there

[haughty thistle]

A lot of Games are not cross-buy on Quest, so you'd be stuck with a lot of games you can't play. The Climb is one of the few Cross-Buy titles

[carmine wharf]

the one im gonna have to rebuy is beat saber but other than that i can go without superhot vr and job simulator for a while. sure itd be fun to replay them on the index but i can do that later

[haughty thistle]

To know if a game is cross-buy, just look in the Quest Store and see if it lists Rift as compatibility. Then you know it's cross-buy

[carmine wharf]

i know

actually maybe i should get job simulator as a game for people to try my index out with

[haughty thistle]

BeatSaber you'd best play Native on SteamVR anyways, since Revive doesn't map the menu button AFAIK, and BeatSaber on Oculus uses that exclusively to pause

[carmine wharf]

my mom seems interested in trying vr so i think job sim could be good

[haughty thistle]

I did the mistake of buying Job Sim on Quest. Never played it once myself. The only time I had that game open on the Quest was one time when I showed it to a relative of mine. I also have it on SteamVR, so not really useful for me xD

[flat pawn]

I'd never buy an oculus version of a game if I could get it on steam, personally

[carmine wharf]

i bought all these games before i even had a pc

thats why

[flat pawn]

ah okay

you have a good excuse then

[haughty thistle]

The only reason to get a game on Oculus is if you have a Quest and want to play it without a PC too

[flat pawn]

going forward though

[carmine wharf]

if i had a pc i wouldnt even have gotten a quest

[flat pawn]

actually couldn't you argue buying an oculus version since you'd be doing away with the steamvr overhead

[carmine wharf]

i wouldve gotten a rift S probably

[flat pawn]

I guess

[carmine wharf]

steamvr overhead on oculus hardware? nah

[flat pawn]

though you'd miss out on ovr advanced settings

[carmine wharf]

while im installing oculus again maybe i should update my quest?

[flat pawn]

steamvr is pretty light

[haughty thistle]

SteamVR is superior in customizability, and performance overhead, whereas the Oculus dashboard has some features you'd need to buy from third party on SteamVR

[flat pawn]

you can't have a flip up watch and discord screen attached to your wrist with oculus dash

[haughty thistle]

The problem occours when using both, as Oculus always pushes their System in the background when using an Oculus headset

[flat pawn]

I have heard that oculus vrc actually runs worse than the steam version

on the same headset

[haughty thistle]

What you can have on Oculus though is a watch on your wrist in all games and have windows pinned to the environment even when in game

VRC runs even worse on an Oculus headset then on a native SteamVR headset

[flat pawn]

how can I have the time always on my wrist in all games

with just oculus

[haughty thistle]

I had a Rift S for a breif period of time, and the performance was about on-par with my Index when running native Oculus, but was about 10fps worse then my Index when running SteamVR. With the Quest, this get's a lot worse due to the compression having to take place

[flat pawn]

I don't remember seeing any option for it

I have a little wristband when in the oculus menus but that's it

[haughty thistle]

There's an experimental option to turn on a watch of some sort. I don't remember the exact termonology

[flat pawn]

doesn't show up in games

[haughty thistle]

Idk. could be that I remember it wrong

[flat pawn]

I'll have to dig into it again

before deciding to spend money on the virtual desktop thing

so that way I could be running like 4 things at once

lol

[carmine wharf]

does the valve index turn off when you take the headset off like the quest does

sleep mode i mean

[flat pawn]

I think they all do, they can sense when your head is in them

[carmine wharf]

ok

[flat pawn]

it's by your forehead

[haughty thistle]

It does and doesn't. Let me explain:
The Index does have a wear sensor and does expose it to through the API to games, but SteamVR only pauses rendering when it senses the headset being layed down (aka no movement detected). Only then the Screens turn off and SteamVR goes into a somewhat sleep mode.

[carmine wharf]

ok

[haughty thistle]

VRC for example uses the wear sensor to show the "AFK" idle animation, even though SteamVR is still rendering and the headset is still displaying an Image

AFAIK, VRC is one of the few, if not only game/application to use the wear sensor. I haven't seen any other game having an implementation for it, but feel free to correct me on that

[carmine wharf]

uh

i went to install a software update to my quest, so i plugged it in and clicked install update, it started downloading and now i just went back to check on it and it says looking for update

do i seriously have to wear it the entire time

[haughty thistle]

You can just do what many people did and tape over the wear sensor, or what I did, to put something infront of the Quest, so it thinks it's being worn. With the default settings, it keeps running for 15 seconds before going to sleep (althought the screens turn black)

[carmine wharf]

ok

what should i do now? restart it?

no download bar or anything

[haughty thistle]

Try and restart. It should install it actually

[carmine wharf]

ok yep

it updated and now the power off menu is wacky haha

[flat pawn]

wacky how?

[carmine wharf]

now it lets me use finger tracking instead of just moving the headset and the menu looks similar to the new universal menu

[haughty thistle]

Yeah,. Facebook want you to use Hand tracking, because with doing so you agree on your camera feeds to be recorded, which is data, what Facebook is all so craving about

I have Hand-Tracking completely disabled on my Quest

[harsh niche]

yeah idk bout that

[flat pawn]

mmmmm tasty data

the zucc must succ

[carmine wharf]

hand tracking is very cool though :(

[flat pawn]

don't barely any games use it?

as neat as it is

[carmine wharf]

ok so how do i fully disable it

[haughty thistle]

yeah idk bout that
@harsh niche It says so in the privacy agreement, everyone doesn't read and just blindly agrees to...

[carmine wharf]

peter it seems you like denying facebook steals data

[flat pawn]

the truth is stranger than fiction

[harsh niche]

not denying it

people are just acting like someone is personally looking into your home and watching you

[carmine wharf]

because they kinda are except its a machine listening to keywords for advertising

[harsh niche]

the microphones on my virtual reality headset are always going to be active listening to me?

[carmine wharf]

possibly

[harsh niche]

hm

[harsh niche]

honestly idc anymore

if it hasn't happened already it will eventually

and if anything it's nice to see ads I actually would be interested in instead of used cars or back pain solutions lmao

i just don't want people to be able to look me up on the internet and have access to all of my accounts n stuff

[gloomy crater]

can't figure out how to disable the steamvr boundaries. sadface

[flat pawn]

The stuff on the ground?

Are you in the right place in the menus?

[gloomy crater]

no, the walls

when I was on oculus, I could just draw a ring that's way bigger than my play space so that I never had to deal with them, but now that i'm on index and you have to use the physical position of the controller to calibrate play space, it keeps popping up these annoying walls whenever my arms get anywhere near the boundary

[flat pawn]

You should be able to disable the guardian

It's in the settings somewhere, I remember seeing it

Within the steamvr menus

[regal breach]

So I'm just looking at ordering a Quest 2, it looks like it includes no cable with it at all?

So I have to buy a USB3 to USB-C cable (or in my case a USB-C card and a USB-C to USB-C cable if I want to go that way) just to connect it to my PC?

Seems that while I can get the headset by October 19, the cable will take until mid-November unless I go with the Oculus branded C-C cable

[sharp quiver]

@regal breach it does include a cable but its a lot shorter compared to the one that came with the first quest making it unusable for Oculus linking. With my experience id say it would probably be best to invest into the official oculus link cable if you have the money for it

[harsh niche]

@regal breach the charging cable it comes with can carry data for sideloading and charging but not for link

and also

https://www.amazon.com/PartyLink-Type-C-Compatible-Transfer-Charging/dp/B0893RJHYV/ref=pd_lpo_328_t_1/146-8796335-1621951?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0893RJHYV&pd_rd_r=3c865d43-9b13-46b2-953b-8480a0a86614&pd_rd_w=PMK3P&pd_rd_wg=hcJeB&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-94d3-61b87b52511b&pf_rd_r=YXJND5XNR3HNE8YNFAM7&psc=1&refRID=YXJND5XNR3HNE8YNFAM7

[regal breach]

So the cable they list is USB 3.2 Gen 1, whereas my X570 motherboard only has a heap of ports and headers for USB 3.1 Gen 1.

[harsh niche]

usb c to usb c 15ft

does your gpu not have a usb c port

[regal breach]

Yeah, a lot of the third-party cables have delivery dates in to November.

Nah, 1070.

[harsh niche]

aw

usb a to usb c also work fine it just won't hold a charge as well

[regal breach]

I can't even seem to find a backplate that goes from an internal USB 3.1 Gen 1 header to a USB-C port.

Is that even a thing, or does it need to get power directly from the 5V rail of the PSU?

[harsh niche]

are you just talking about a usb c expansion card?

[regal breach]

Effectively yeah. Except most cards are X4 - and I only have an available X1 slot, sigh.

[harsh niche]

o

you don't need usb c

[regal breach]

TBH think I need to find a new motherboard - have a Gigabyte X570 Gaming and it has fuck-all expandability.

Had to get an Elgato HD60 not the S because it's X1 (the S is X4), I have an nvme card in the only X4 slot (that takes an X16 connector, but it's only an X4 slot)... and then there's an X1 slot blocked by the double-height 1070 that's in the X16 slot.

So... USB-A 3.1 to USB-C cable seems the way to go.

[harsh niche]

yes

[regal breach]

Sigh, even the oculus link cable won't be available til November 3.

[sturdy pine]

most USB cables should work

some 2.0 cable works too

[regal breach]

what so I can just use a micro-USB to USB-C adapter??

That doesn't seem right heh

[harsh niche]

third party cables aren't that hard to get

https://www.anker.com/products/variant/powerline-10ft-usb-c-to-usb-30/A8167011?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=anker_google_pla_us_1_a8167011-20&utm_term=anker_google_pla_us_1_a8167011-20&gclid=CjwKCAjw_Y_8BRBiEiwA5MCBJtfFdRCy23CgBjnDHEL8dN5-R0omAdYPImr9r1d_5tw5aqOlU0MNPhoCESgQAvD_BwE

this is the oculus recommended one

if it's too short you can get a usb extender

[regal breach]

That one also has a delivery date of October 30-November 17.

[gloomy crater]

well

I have an x1 slot with a USBC expansion card in it

It's powered by a sata cable. I don't have much use for it now that I have an index, though

and I gotta say, now that I actually have the index and have been using it for the past few hours, it's astonishing how different the play experience is. The index is much lighter than the quest, the control scheme for games like HLA and H3VR are totally different, and actually just being able to turn on the controllers and be in VR in a matter of seconds is amazing

also: do I have to power off the base stations when not in use? seems like unnecessary wear to have them spinning all the time

[harsh niche]

That one also has a delivery date of October 30-November 17.
where tf do you live? for me it got here in like 4 days

[lavish moon]

I just bought a rift s 😄

The 2060s is a decent VR gpu right?

[harsh niche]

yes

[lavish moon]

I don't do much vr

[lofty minnow]

guys

can u run a vr headset on a integrated cpu?

[carmine wharf]

no.

you theoretically could but its not playable its more of a proof of concept

[haughty thistle]

@regal breach To answer your question from earlier:
It is recommended to use USB 3.0 at least. On the OG Quest a USB 2 cable was also usable, but I don't think it'll work with the Quest 2 as it uses a higher resolution for Link. USB 3.0 = USB 3.1 Gen1 = USB 3.2 Gen1

[regal breach]

They made the naming so obvious 😄

I think I have found my solution. OQuest from Amazon, AUD479, will arrive October 20. 3m USB A to C cable (https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Cables/USB/63611-U3-TCA03-MM) and 3m USB AM-AF extension (https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Cables/USB/62333-USB3-03-AA) - even though I think where I want to use it 3m might end up being sufficient.

3m cable should easily reach top port on case to use on big open area.

[harsh niche]

please clean

[regal breach]

haha

[harsh niche]

pog

just need sleep then a couple hours in online school and maybe a little bit more to get it then it is finally here

if only I could sleep

[regal breach]

The boxes of Lego on the floor - I bougth them to send to my brother in Singapore, then saw shipping them there was gonna be like $65 so just found seller over there and had them shipped straight to him, now I have two spare Lego advent calendars heh

[tame terrace]

to day il get my quest

[regal breach]

Done, ordered. Now to wait a week.

[sullen linden]

Boneworks is best game. Change my mind.

[modern sparrow]

Beat Saber

[sullen linden]

no

[noble kestrel]

yeah bw is really fun

[gray reef]

I’d love to play it, but my cpu is pretty under spec, so I’ll have to wait to upgrade

[haughty thistle]

VR in general is fun. At least the games I've played so far (Virtual Virtual Reality, BW, HLA, Pistol Whip, The Climb, , VRC) Although I'm mostly playing the last two mentioned

[sullen linden]

Why you not playing boneworks

[haughty thistle]

BW = Bone Works xD

[sullen linden]

Oh I have smooth brain

[gloomy crater]

I only have 6 VR games atm

[sullen linden]

I only have 3

[gloomy crater]

HLA, H3VR, FNAFVR, VRChat, Beatsaber, and Vivecraft

[sullen linden]

Pavlov, HLA, and Boneworks

vivecraft is free

[gloomy crater]

so is vrchat

[sullen linden]

ok

Minecraft and vivecraft is free

[gloomy crater]

your point?

[sullen linden]

I dont know

[gloomy crater]

ok

[sullen linden]

Like i said i smooth brain

[gloomy crater]

I might be smooth brain too cause I just don't see the appeal in boneworks

[sullen linden]

Mods

Lots of mods

Custom guns custom maps custom player skins

Unlimited ammo

god mode

Is fnafvr good?

[gloomy crater]

I'd say yeah, but without the DLC it's pretty much just the regular fnaf games in VR with a few extra modes with some story based unlockables

the DLC, which I don't have, adds a bunch of new modes that are halloween focused

[burnt vault]

If I'm building a $2k gaming PC (already ordered most parts), is the Oculus Quest 2 not worth my time? If so, what's a solid VR setup to go with my new computer?

[sullen linden]

I literaly got a quest 1 in july

[wanton marten]

Hp reverb g2 or Index (long waiting time) , quest 2 is decent for the price but has issues.

[burnt vault]

What are the primary issues?

I'm dying to play beat saber, among others, for a workout.

Winters in Vermont are long, gyms suck.

[wanton marten]

dpi adjustments and facebook privacy issues

[burnt vault]

I also don't have a lot of room, probably 7x7 or 8x8 in my living room, if that matters.

Just seems like a waste to not utilize the new PC.

[wanton marten]

if you want to play beatsaber for 300$ you can't beat quest 2. If you don't mind facebook login and you will be fine with dpi adjustment other than that g2

Index and G2 still the best VR experience.

but both of them don't have wireless options.

I might buy quest 2 to watch movies and G2 for gaming

[burnt vault]

Is the G2 powered by the computer?

[wanton marten]

yes.

[burnt vault]

Looks like the Index is pretty out of budget.

Not to mention availability.

[wanton marten]

Where are also rumors about G2 omnicept which will have facetracking and eyetracking

yep, index = 2 months waiting

same with g2 , if you pre-order now you will get on december

[burnt vault]

I'll have to think on it more. VR is still growing, so I'm not looking to spend too much, as it'll get outpaced soon enough. The new $2k rig will have me infinitely busy with my Steam library of 1600+ games (my laptop can barely run most, Iris Pro 5200 graphics), so that'll take most of my time, with work. I hate to buy VR just for Beatsaber, but I'd round that out more and say just for fitness.

But I also don't want to skip out on a better experience for $200 more, that'll include utilizing my new PC, and have an array of games that I frankly just don't know about yet.

I basically know Super Hot, and Beat Saber.

[wanton marten]

you can still utilize your pc with Quest 2 via Virtual Desktop

if it would not be Facebook , i would have bought already because I was using gear vr with virtual desktop and had a blast watching tv shows like westworld or the expanse

[burnt vault]

I honestly don't mind the Facebook bit that much. Like, I'd avoid it with an array of options, but it's not a con to me.

Fuck them and their practices, but I'd rather shed 30lbs than fight them on that.

What about the size difference / cost, 64GB for $299, 256GB for $399 - does this matter if using virtual desktop?

[wanton marten]

If you have costco i would recommend buying through them, they had really good bundle , if you won't like dpi adjustment you can return it

if you gonna use virtual desktop it does not matter

[burnt vault]

I do have a Costco membership.

When you say dpi adjustments, what exactly do you mean?

[wanton marten]

it had pretty good bundle for ~425$

distance between eyes , quest 2 has only 3 settings,

[harsh niche]

dpi adjustment works fine for 90 percent of people

still better than the rift s lmao

[wanton marten]

where the hell you got that 90 % ?

[harsh niche]

they said the numbers

[wanton marten]

"they said"

sure

[harsh niche]

why are you so stubborn look it up

[burnt vault]

What would put you in that 10%? Wearing glasses? Needing glasses? Further apart eyes?

[wanton marten]

I just hate baseless statistics

[burnt vault]

Costco website isn't coming up with anything for me.

[harsh niche]

What would put you in that 10%? Wearing glasses? Needing glasses? Further apart eyes?
yeah further apart of close together eyes

it's pretty simple

[wanton marten]

it's sold out right now, they might have it later on

[burnt vault]

I think I'm pretty standard in that department.

My local Best Buy has some right now.

Says I can pick it up, though I thought release was tomorrow.

[harsh niche]

release is today

[burnt vault]

Gotcha

[harsh niche]

the 13th

goin to get mine after school

[burnt vault]

I do like having a solid return window without restocking fee.

[harsh niche]

bestbuy too

yeah

and if you have the bestbuy rewards things return can be boosted to 45 days

[burnt vault]

If you're using virtual desktop, does that use your computer hardware then, or does the quest 2 still do the heavy lifting? My current laptop is garbage, but I already own VR games via Steam.

[wanton marten]

Gemfruit if you are looking for beat saber you want "premium strap" , regular strap is pretty bad.

yes, it's using your pc hardware and your wireless connection

[burnt vault]

Well, I'll have to wait on the new PC then.

Iris Pro isn't going to cut it 😄

[wanton marten]

premium strap i believe is $50

which is pretty much a must for what you want to do.

[burnt vault]

Yeah

[harsh niche]

@burnt vault your pc does almost all of the work

only thing the headset does it decompress the input

[burnt vault]

I'll just wait and read up more then.

New PC next month hopefully, just ordered most of the parts.

[harsh niche]

im lucky my ipd is the average 63.5mm, hopefully it'll fit nice

[wanton marten]

i feel like they gonna release new bundle , "premium quest 2 "

it does not make sense that premium strap is almost a must and where is no option to buy a better option already

[burnt vault]

I just really want beat Saber and any semi fitness oriented experiences. I lost 35lbs in high school playing DDR, games make it so much easier for me.

[harsh niche]

it does not make sense that premium strap is almost a must and where is no option to buy a better option already
one of the reasons why it is so cheap

[wanton marten]

Quest 2 is pretty much the only choice , get premium strap and multiple facemasks which you can wash

I have lost quite a bit with Kinect as well. So i know what you mean.

[gloomy crater]

so that was a mistake

Logged on to class while my index was connected and for some reason it decided to use my index cameras instead of my webcam

[young marten]

lol

[gentle coral]

@burnt vault definitely check your IPD (interpupillary distance). If it falls really close to one of the Three settings that the Quest 2 has, then you should be fine. But know that quest link is very performance heavy if you want to play PCVR games, and using virtual desktop can be a mixed bag, and for best results requires a dedicated wifi band to your router (if you can't set this on your router, you can always buy a dedicated router just for the VR headset.)

HP Reverb G2 and Index are more expensive, but would give an overall better experience with any native PCVR games, and both have fully adjustable IPD.

The real draw for the Quest 2 is if you want to play games when away from your computer. As an example, I had a ton of fun playing my friends quest 1 while we hung out in a park. If I had one I would also love to bring it camping to watch movies in, but unless Facebook changes their login requirements I will never purchase an oculus headset myself.

[burnt vault]

I've got a new build in the works with a Zen 3 5900x and (eventually) an RTX 3080, so I'll probably wait and read more.

I don't anticipate going anywhere, and I already own a few VR games on Steam.

I just ordered 75% of my build, so it shouldn't be too long now.

[harsh niche]

my dad won't come home early for lunch to pick up the quest the suspense is killing me

i know it's barely far away.. but I can't...get...to..it

and he said my brother couldn't drive over there and get it for me for some reason so idk

[flat pawn]

gem what gpu do you have right now I forget

[burnt vault]

Iris Pro 5200, integrated with the i7-4750HQ

So, garbage.

[flat pawn]

oh god

[burnt vault]

Powerful for what it is, but not powerful by any other means lol

[flat pawn]

especially not in this channel

[burnt vault]

Yeah, I've been using this laptop for the last 6+ years, you can imagine how happy I am to be building this new machine.

[flat pawn]

I've been wondering how significant of a fps boost I'll get with something in the 3080/3090/big navi tier vs my current 1080Ti for vrchat and other vr games

[gentle coral]

Also been a while since I heard of anyone who has as many games as I do. My steam library is currently at 1313 games, and I still gave a good 500+ I need to activate (I buy a lot of bundles). I currently have 200 or so VR games (many free ones, but also the general recommended VR games).

3900x and a 3080 sounds like a great build for VR. How much RAM are you planning? And what type of storage.

I am so annoyed that none of the big tech youtubers run VR benchmarks. I might compile a few VR benchmarks in unity and blender and send it to all the reviewers I can think of.

[harsh niche]

it's here

[wanton marten]

@gentle coral i actually saw somebody doing benchmarks for each headset

i guess not enough views to warrant more vr youtubers doinng benchmarks.

It requires a lot of work , it's much easier to make quest 2 video which brings way more views than 5 vr headset benchmark. which takes hours to setup

[burnt vault]

@gentle coral 5900x, not 3900x, so even better! I already bought 32GB of Crucial Ballistix CL16 3600Mhz, and two 1TB nvme drives.

Tons of bundles here too, though I just activated a solid 20-30 I had laying around, and am actually caught up 😄

[flat pawn]

what are you going to do with it first

what are you going to play

[burnt vault]

Shiny

[harsh niche]

I don’t know honestly

I can’t do any exercising ones because of my recent surgery

so maybe a flight sim

why does it look like the screen is flickering

[carmine wharf]

why does that box look so crappy wtf

it looks like a normal box with paper in it

[harsh niche]

money saving

it is clean though

and it doesn’t matter

[worthy compass]

who cares about the box, you only need to see it once

[sullen linden]

Who else is getting a quest 2

[worthy compass]

i have a rift s i dont see the need to get a quest 2 maybe quest 3 will be worth it?

[sullen linden]

why does that box look so crappy wtf
@carmine wharf shhhh

i have a rift s i dont see the need to get a quest 2 maybe quest 3 will be worth it?
@worthy compass Iw anted to get a rift s

but its being discontinued and support dropped inn a couple months

and im gonna be sad

[worthy compass]

i got it near the start of lockdown when they were 2x price but i got lucky and got it for retail from argos from text notifcations xD

[sullen linden]

:o

sigh

Is it worth it to get a rift s

[worthy compass]

of course

[sullen linden]

but quest 2 has much higher resolution

[worthy compass]

they dropping support?

[sullen linden]

yes

[worthy compass]

bro its pretty crisp to me

idk about support

it wont stop working

xD

[sullen linden]

Theres no such thing as too many pixels

[worthy compass]

true

[sullen linden]

now if only vr headsets had rgb...

[worthy compass]

rgb makes it run faster

[sullen linden]

Yes

We've gotten fake reports that rgb doesnt improve performance

Anyway on quest 2 vs rift s

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/iubdzp/quest_2_vs_rift_s/

There's this

[worthy compass]

https://tenor.com/view/corsair-rgb-rip-wallet-money-computer-gif-17670430

[sullen linden]

Yes

[worthy compass]

im happy with my rift s

runs steam vr

thats all i need

quest is cool but i would never take it out

[sullen linden]

But the quest supports steamvr 🥺

I think that the Quest 2 would give you a better overall experience and more options, but it will cost you about $30 more.

I say this because you would need the Q2 ($299) + Elite headstrap ($49) + Link cable ($79) = $427 to get the same PCVR functionaliity as the Rift-S ($399).

However, that would also get you newer controllers, more resolution, MobileVR capability, and a physical IPD adjustment.

(This assumes that the update to Oculus Link works as well as I think it is going to. It is not available for testing yet.)

Thats one of the comments

You know wireless link actually works better than the wired link rn XD

[worthy compass]

mobile

ahaha

[sullen linden]

thats assuming your quest is connected via 5ghz wifi

[worthy compass]

cant wait for the future

[sullen linden]

Lets be honest with ourselves here

skip the quest

get the rift s

and this

https://www8.hp.com/us/en/vr/vr-backpack.html

[worthy compass]

im waiting for the vr teachnology in 10 years

imagine

[sullen linden]

imagine

nope

[worthy compass]

ready player one is the dream

[sullen linden]

that exists

yes it is

I would spring for a reverb g2

or a index

but im locked in the oculus facebook ecosystem

@worthy compass :O you have sea of thieves as well

@worthy compass

[gloomy crater]

The only reason I keep my oculus account around is because I used to travel a lot before quarantine, so I bought an index, but after this pandemic blows over I plan on traveling a ton again, and I won't be able to take my whole setup with me everywhere, so I'm probably gonna get a quest 2 sometime next year

[sullen linden]

yup Im getting a quest 2

The only reason I keep my oculus account around is because I used to travel a lot before quarantine, so I bought an index, but after this pandemic blows over I plan on traveling a ton again, and I won't be able to take my whole setup with me everywhere, so I'm probably gonna get a quest 2 sometime next year
@gloomy crater with ur fancy index

<;c

I wanted to get one but my pc can barely run it

and all my other friends have oculus

And we plan to play a ton of echo vr

[worthy compass]

hehe

sea of thieves is banging

[gloomy crater]

Oh yeah. I've been thinking. I got a spot in line to buy an index a while ago but I decided to buy a used one recently so I could either 1. just cancel my order or 2. give my spot in line to someone else. Like, dropship the index to someone who wants to buy an index but the queue is in the way

[sullen linden]

im not sure if ill buy it

https://youtu.be/GbWSfjabrk8

This was released 18 minutes ago

At the end it shows rift s and quest 2

[worthy compass]

beat saber is very good

[sullen linden]

yes it is

skip near the end

it doesnt mention the first quest

[sand pewter]

i have an order on an index full kit that says ships in 2 or more weeks

[sullen linden]

Fancy index man

[sand pewter]

why yes of course

[sullen linden]

Oigeon look

[worthy compass]

index is worth it but too much for me xD

[sullen linden]

it doesnt mention the first quest

[worthy compass]

quest > rift S > quest 2 > Index

[sullen linden]

better than

?

[sand pewter]

i was gonna cancel my index order and preorder a quest 2 but then it changed and said 4 or more weeks

[sullen linden]

quest < rift s < quest 2 > Index

4 what

really

you spent like

700 dollars more because of shipping times

[sand pewter]

na its just like a queue order with no payment yet

[sullen linden]

oh ok

[sand pewter]

so after the original 8 weeks it said 4 then now it says 2

[sullen linden]

I could probably buy the index if I waited

if i saved up

but then the quest 2 and its convenience

[sand pewter]

honestly its just because i already have a bunch of vr games on my pc

[sullen linden]

and also having a higher resolution

display

and like oculus link

and all my other friends have or are getting quest 2s

[acoustic gate]

no man the 120hz on the index is god

[sullen linden]

but

[sand pewter]

i know and all in all a quest would be cheaper but i just kept procrastinating and not cancelling

[worthy compass]

none of my friends have vr and they say its too expensive

its sad

[sullen linden]

but

$299

if they saved up

they could probably get it

[acoustic gate]

if you have a job you can get it within 3 months

[worthy compass]

we are only 16 though xD

[acoustic gate]

i am 15

had a job for a few months earning 400 total

[worthy compass]

im lucky my dad buys me everything and i work aha

[acoustic gate]

o

[sand pewter]

here in where i am you can get hired from 14 but its not likely

[acoustic gate]

here it's 15

[sullen linden]

i am 15
@acoustic gate how u do dat

[acoustic gate]

you'll earn about 100 a month average

how do you mean trian?

[sullen linden]

how do you get a job at that age

[acoustic gate]

that's the minimum age to get a job in my country

[sand pewter]

you apply

[worthy compass]

i was like 13/14 when i started doing my paperround

[sullen linden]

oh ok

[acoustic gate]

you can do paperrounds at 10 here, but the money for so much work isnt worth it imo

[sand pewter]

i applied to the local walmart in august and.... i haven't heard back from them 😦

[sullen linden]

;c

[worthy compass]

legit its child labour

legal slave labour

[sullen linden]

rip

[worthy compass]

i get paid wack

[sand pewter]

pretty much but hey you get paid

its more than nothing

[acoustic gate]

you just walk for 4 hours and earn 15-20 euro's like bruh

with a normal job you'd earn like 50 for much less work

[sullen linden]

much much less work

[worthy compass]

my dad earns more in 3 hours than i do in a year

legit

bruh

[sullen linden]

but hes like

[sand pewter]

wow that sucks

[sullen linden]

ur dad

[gloomy crater]

I sold my quest 1 along with an old power supply and mowing a bunch of lawns and shoveling coal to be able to afford the index

[acoustic gate]

nice man

[worthy compass]

hes 48

[acoustic gate]

i am saving up for a reverb g2

[sullen linden]

but hes 48

i am saving up for a reverb g2
@acoustic gate Ive been wondering if I should get it

[acoustic gate]

but i gotta get a new job first

[sullen linden]

reverb g2 is interesting

$600

[sand pewter]

i think the reverb is interesting but it might flop

[sullen linden]

not much more than the total price of my quest setup

oh ok

ill get the quest 2

I really want the index and all but in the end

[fathom sigil]

The reverb tracking though

[sullen linden]

is it good

[acoustic gate]

it's decent

[worthy compass]

if i push my dad down the stairs = easy index

[sullen linden]

oh ok

NO

[worthy compass]

agahahahh

[acoustic gate]

not as good as the oculus's but also not as bad as first gen wmr's

[fathom sigil]

Bruh

[sand pewter]

the quest is honestly the best choice as of right now

[sullen linden]

^^^

[acoustic gate]

life insurance 😎

[fathom sigil]

Yeah it's like it's ok for most stuff but definitely not high reflex shiz with that wmr 2.0(?) Tracking

[sullen linden]

Yeah im getting the quest 2

[fathom sigil]

But to be honest it has some killer features besides that

[sullen linden]

I dont want this space heater of a pc top be runnign at all

[sand pewter]

this is honestly the first time i actually involved in a conversation in a big server

[sullen linden]

Im active on here alot

mostly in general

first time ive been in this channel

[fathom sigil]

Yeah I'm getting quest 2 too, got my own open backed headphones so audio is no problem. And i got the elite strap

[acoustic gate]

im mostly in tech chat and hardware

[sand pewter]

idk i always get scared in big servers

[acoustic gate]

i think im quite known in this server now

[fathom sigil]

It's aight man we all out here just vibing

[sullen linden]

Yeah I'm getting quest 2 too, got my own open backed headphones so audio is no problem. And i got the elite strap
@fathom sigil can I somehow jerry rig the index or vive pro audio headstrap

[acoustic gate]

just need some tape

[sullen linden]

i knwo they did it on the last quest and no

they needed adapters

[fathom sigil]

@fathom sigil can I somehow jerry rig the index or vive pro audio headstrap
@sullen linden not yet, but the frankenquest 2 may become a thing

[sand pewter]

probably not

[sullen linden]

yeah the speakers are built in now

I really want something like the cv1s headphones

i used to have a cv1

[sand pewter]

i mean you could probably find a way to jerry rig it and make it janky as hell but it'll almost work

[fathom sigil]

The built in speakers are oof cuz they're the same as the quest 1 and i owned that. The ipd adjustment is probably close to the worst possible but it may be fine for most people

[sullen linden]

almost

[sand pewter]

A L M O S T

[fathom sigil]

[sullen linden]

The built in speakers are oof cuz they're the same as the quest 1 and i owned that. The ipd adjustment is probably close to the worst possible but it may be fine for most people
@fathom sigil I mean its better than the rift s I dont think you could adjust its ipd

[fathom sigil]

True that

The quest 2 also has a great mic for the price

[sullen linden]

:o

[fathom sigil]

It's about ⅔ the quality of the index one imo

[sand pewter]

the mic is pretty good yeah

[sullen linden]

Could I use it over this astro a10 headset mic

[fathom sigil]

Like good enough for vibing

Idk man i need to test headphones with the elite strap

[sullen linden]

if I get the quest 2

[fathom sigil]

With the regular strap almost 100% fine cuz its thin af

[sullen linden]

I might get earbuds

or wait till they can get hovering earphones cv1 or index style

[sand pewter]

once i get my index i think ima pool whatever money i have left and see if i can get some vive trackers

[fathom sigil]

I can't find decent value earbuds so I'm hoping headphones are fine

[sullen linden]

I can't find decent value earbuds so I'm hoping headphones are fine
@fathom sigil I have a pair of really good sounding skullcandies but I cant find them

i got them for a bargain

[fathom sigil]

Oh yeah goddamn i think i do too

[sullen linden]

I also have a pair of sonys I cant find

[fathom sigil]

It's just

I hate the ones that stick in your ear. Let me explain

I prefer the ones that have an earhook so that the driver can just rest on my ear canal

And there's like 0 chance of it falling off when moving fast (robo recall for example, i play that like doom)

[sullen linden]

:o

and beatsaber expert plus

[fathom sigil]

😂

[sullen linden]

200% speed

[fathom sigil]

I'm absolutely garbage at it

[sullen linden]

I am too

I turn on no fail I just like watching blocks go by at lightspeed

[fathom sigil]

I'm so bad at beat saber it's not even funny like normal mode is a challenge

[sullen linden]

oh rip

I started playing on hard mode

[fathom sigil]

But i way prefer fps games

[sand pewter]

im surprisingly good at beat saber

[sullen linden]

then for a while on my cv1 my left controller didnt work

[fathom sigil]

What's that beat saber game but with guns?

[sand pewter]

pistol whip

[sullen linden]

What's that beat saber game but with guns?
@fathom sigil pistol whip

[fathom sigil]

Oh yeah might cop that some time

Thanks

That looks like the perfect merge for me

[sullen linden]

I got better at beatsaber thanks to my cv1s left controller giving out

[sand pewter]

i think its pretty dope but i haven't played it

[fathom sigil]

Oof

[sullen linden]

i played right handed and got better

[fathom sigil]

And your left hand was doing...? 😳😳

[sullen linden]

then the problem turned out to be the all the batteries in my house were dead

I PLAYED ONE HANDED MODE

[fathom sigil]

[sullen linden]

my left hand was sitting at my side bro

kalm

[fathom sigil]

Hmmm

[sullen linden]

no

[fathom sigil]

Okay anyways back to vr related stuff 😂

[sullen linden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57d59puP3fE&feature=share

The greatest half life alyx vid ever

[fathom sigil]

Idk what will be better; virtual desktop or oculus link

[sullen linden]

rn virtual desktop

[fathom sigil]

It's a coin flip

[sullen linden]

oculus link is locked to only 72hz

[fathom sigil]

Depends on what WiFi you have

[sullen linden]

virtual desktop goes on 90 hz

[fathom sigil]

Mine is not good but not bad

Yeah i suppose

[sullen linden]

presuming its running over 5ghz wifi

but oculus is releasing an update limiting virtual desktop to 72 hz

[fathom sigil]

Yeah but WiFi 6 is possible on the quest 2 according to ThrillSeeker

[sullen linden]

so

ye

[fathom sigil]

Damn

Nerfed the competition

So then it's down to convenience over lower latency and a bit of compression artefacting

[agile abyss]

What 1.5v rechargeable AA batteries would you recommend @haughty thistle

[fathom sigil]

None

[sullen linden]

So then it's down to convenience over lower latency and a bit of compression artefacting
@fathom sigil yup

What 1.5v rechargeable AA batteries would you recommend @haughty thistle
@agile abyss rayovac

jk idk

I use rayovac rechargeable batteries

[fathom sigil]

Well actually you didn't ask me but now that I've chimed in, my experience with rechargeables have been pretty bad

[sullen linden]

also I can see why they went double a for their controller batteries

batteries are consumable

they degrade over time

making the batteries a standard like that

actually helps with the controller longevity

if they made the quest 2 battery replaceable

that would be a different story

[harsh niche]

I think that the Quest 2 would give you a better overall experience and more options, but it will cost you about $30 more.

I say this because you would need the Q2 ($299) + Elite headstrap ($49) + Link cable ($79) = $427 to get the same PCVR functionaliity as the Rift-S ($399).

However, that would also get you newer controllers, more resolution, MobileVR capability, and a physical IPD adjustment.

(This assumes that the update to Oculus Link works as well as I think it is going to. It is not available for testing yet.)
@sullen linden third party cable costs $20

ima test it right now and see how well it works

[fathom sigil]

I bought a third party cable too but hasn't arrived yet

Really good reviews considering it's, well, €22

[harsh niche]

I got the party link 15ft one

[fathom sigil]

Claims it's 3.2 but actually 3.1 speeds over 8m, got a signal booster on it

Is that 5metres? Your one

[harsh niche]

yeah

usb c to usb c

[fathom sigil]

Yeah me too, c to c

Brand?

[harsh niche]

I just got it plugged into my gpu directly

[fathom sigil]

Newzterol is it?

[harsh niche]

partylink

[fathom sigil]

Ohhh

[gloomy crater]

@harsh niche let me know how the cord works

[fathom sigil]

I thought that was some weird keyword 😂

[harsh niche]

@harsh niche let me know how the cord works
@gloomy crater I gotchu

after all you recommended it

[gloomy crater]

yeah but I haven't tested the 15ft one yet

[harsh niche]

Oh okie

going to test now

[sullen linden]

What

[fathom sigil]

Pog, @ me if you find results 👍

[harsh niche]

[sullen linden]

:O

@fathom sigil

It worked

[fathom sigil]

Poggeroonies

[sullen linden]

pogchamp

[fathom sigil]

Is it 3.1?

[sullen linden]

i think just three

[harsh niche]

it says on the amazon page

how do I check

[fathom sigil]

Also jiggle it a bit and see if it disconnected

[sullen linden]

my port is 3.2 gen 1

;c

[harsh niche]

it's backwards compatible

[fathom sigil]

Yeah

[sullen linden]

i know just

[carmine wharf]

The rift s still offers a better experience. Its got better lenses and no compression on the video. Less delay as well

[sullen linden]

;c

[harsh niche]

The rift s still offers a better experience. Its got better lenses and no compression on the video. Less delay as well
@carmine wharf nobody cares

[sullen linden]

hey dat not nice

[fathom sigil]

Succ my quest

[sullen linden]

<;c

[harsh niche]

rain on my happy parade

[carmine wharf]

If you purely want a pcvr headset the rift s is better. But if you want standalone as well the quest 2 is great

[fathom sigil]

I want a dual function device and the quest 2 is perfect for it

[harsh niche]

exactly

[fathom sigil]

Mobile for my family pcvr for me

[harsh niche]

i only use pcvr but

introducing.....

virtual desktop!

crowd goes wild

[fathom sigil]

Vd gang

How's sidequest?

[harsh niche]

virtual desktop and also for po-

[fathom sigil]

👀

[harsh niche]

shh

it's a secret

oh

I haven't tried vd yet

lemme try out the link first

[sullen linden]

yes

once they optimize it for no compression artifacts and lower latency itll be better than the rift s

[harsh niche]

rn im just fitting the handy dandy velcro ring things the cable came with

it came with 2!

[sullen linden]

yes I love those

it keeps the cable from coming off

ever think of how the first quest hmd is a modified cv1 hmd

it reminds me alot of the cv1 hmd

Oh i found this in my files

[fathom sigil]

Yeah i remember that image someone sent it in a few weeks ago 👍 quite useful actually

[sullen linden]

Yeah

I found this on reddit

but yeah its nice

[fathom sigil]

Any update on the beans? @harsh niche i demand the beans!

[sullen linden]

b e a n s

I require the beans

[harsh niche]

wat

[gloomy crater]

h e c c

[sullen linden]

link cable

[harsh niche]

O

[sullen linden]

updates

pls

[harsh niche]

im tangled in my cord right now

i did the cable tie things really bad

[gloomy crater]

the day after I get my index and beatsaber is screwed. nice

[sullen linden]

what how is beatsaber screwed

[gloomy crater]

I had a ton of mods installed but since that big update came out all of them are broken

[sullen linden]

aw

I dont use mods

[gloomy crater]

and since the UI got changed, all my songs are in the wrong order and I can't find any of them

[sullen linden]

rip

sorry man

[gloomy crater]

I only use the ones that come with mod assistant, like chroma and scoreboards, plus custom sabers and tricksaber

I guess I'll try the multiplayer thing until mods get fixed

[harsh niche]

do you guys have any tip to keep my hair out of the thing

[sullen linden]

cut it

[harsh niche]

when I put it on it keeps dropping down

[sullen linden]

or pull it out

[harsh niche]

good idea

[gloomy crater]

did you get the deluxe head strap

[harsh niche]

yeah

soo much better than the default one

the default one pushed so hard on my forehead it started giving me a headache within half an hour

[gloomy crater]

nice. my sister bought a quest 2 with the deluxe head strap but since all her games are on steam, she can't do anything with it until I finish her PC

[harsh niche]

:/

lemme try the port on my motherboard

[gloomy crater]

If it works I'll be surprised. My board port never worked but maybe that's just my board being bad

[harsh niche]

same thing

oh well

i'm not going to use my gpu connector for anything else

[sullen linden]

Wait its only using 2.8 gbps

that leaves around 7.8 gbps overhead

for 3.0

[fathom sigil]

No that's the available bandwidth on the cable

So it's not up to standard

[harsh niche]

yoo im here

[fathom sigil]

But if oculus says it's good (it's picky) then it must be 🤷🏼‍♂️

[harsh niche]

im in the rift home

[fathom sigil]

Yooo

My man in the vr and shit

Did you find obama in there?

[harsh niche]

hahahah