#virtual-reality | Linus Tech Tips | Page 64

spring mantle Feb 18, 2020, 12:18 PM

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ye

cloud pier Feb 18, 2020, 12:18 PM

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You'll be able to get them cheaper too

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The "old" ones

spring mantle Feb 18, 2020, 12:19 PM

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most games 20- 40fps 720p

cloud pier Feb 18, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Damn x'D

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I remember my first "pc" was my mom's laptop

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Got like 16fps in Minecraft at the lowest settings

spring mantle Feb 18, 2020, 12:20 PM

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and cs go runs at a whopping 20fps min 640p

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20 is too good most of the time 15

spring mantle Feb 18, 2020, 12:45 PM

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ok no i still despratly want a quest

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im rlly not sure

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ok so i will put a vote

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shall i get a quest now

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(react)

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ye or ne

glad sand Feb 18, 2020, 12:56 PM

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How much would you be spending on the Quest?

spring mantle Feb 18, 2020, 12:56 PM

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£398

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and 850 on the pc

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but i have to save longer to get the pc

glad sand Feb 18, 2020, 12:57 PM

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Have you considered getting PC parts used? Or even the Quest itself?

spring mantle Feb 18, 2020, 12:58 PM

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yes but that does not save too much as i would have to get a last gen card and then upgrading the psu bc less effecaint and it kind of undoes itself

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cpus are hard to find 2nd hand

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and so is everything else

glad sand Feb 18, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Really? What region?

spring mantle Feb 18, 2020, 12:59 PM

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uk

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eg the best 2nd had cpu i can find is an r5 3400g

glad sand Feb 18, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Look into r/hardwareswap and eBay then, HardwareSwap is my go-to in the US, but I know for a fact there are lots of people selling stuff both in or shipping to the UK

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eBay is just a backup in case you can't find what you're looking for on HardwareSwap, but is almost always more expensive

spring mantle Feb 18, 2020, 1:00 PM

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im 13 and reditit is not an option

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:/

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i mean i have my switch and plenty of games for the 2 years to come and there will be better hardware out by then like ddr5 and its going to be such a big jump ok im getting the vr now i hhave thoght hard about it

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well ddr5 is out just not used anywhere

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and most vr games i want to play are on the quest store

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excuding hl alyx and budget cuts

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but 2 years is not too long

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k

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okay

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its time

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ill ask if i can order it

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ITS A YES

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my pearants are just eating luch and then order

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aujhdgaksdhgasd

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...

sullen linden Feb 18, 2020, 1:50 PM

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Keep in mind it might take a long time before you receive it. The quest orders are pretty backlogged and I think they have like only 10% of the employees working in the factory the quest is made in.

spring mantle Feb 18, 2020, 1:58 PM

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oh you cant get it from oculus rn

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it is coming from overclocker uk as they are the only ones with some stock left

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3dy

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ay

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tyring to press bacspace on my laptop keyboard

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3 days estimatd max 4days min 2 days

sullen linden Feb 18, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Well in that case you should be fine

spring mantle Feb 18, 2020, 1:59 PM

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ye

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can't wait

unreal stump Feb 18, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Damn boi u got a lot of games

spring mantle Feb 19, 2020, 9:00 AM

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all fo the hl games are free rn i only own 2 and 1

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i do have ep one and ep 2 on xbox 360

lapis ledge Feb 20, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Can someone please help me with my new Oculus rift cv1?

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I just bought it yesterday and I noticed that the ipd slider will go all the way the the headset will say it is only 59-58.6

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And how can I make the screen not blurry?

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How can I make it 58 like it should be?

sullen linden Feb 20, 2020, 2:46 PM

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@lapis ledge Is your IPD 58? If so I don't think 0.6 makes a huge difference in the image sharpness and if you got it used make sure the lenses are clean because that can make the screen really blurry if they're dirty.

lapis ledge Feb 20, 2020, 4:09 PM

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my ipd is 57

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is it still ok?

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@sullen linden \

sullen linden Feb 20, 2020, 7:12 PM

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I don't think it goes that low on the headset

gentle coral Feb 20, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Is it still blurry if you hold it on your face a bit off of the bridge of your nose (many vr headsets sit a bit low on the face if not adjusted properly around the back of the strap. That causes a lot of blur.

Also carefully clean the lenses.

wintry halo Feb 21, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Does VR work on a Ryzen 5 3500U with Vega 8 graphics? Without a graphics card.

void grove Feb 21, 2020, 7:37 PM

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That's going to be a hard no from me

surreal tide Feb 21, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Technically yes practically no

spring mantle Feb 21, 2020, 8:16 PM

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my quest is not comeing untill tmr or day after

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s'shame

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:/

gentle coral Feb 21, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Ton of news from HTC

https://www.roadtovr.com/htc-vive-proton-prototype-reveal/?fbclid=IwAR2U8SL-wgPxcJ_5SCsCWb5l9CYy8Ze0TUAgl0oN5L_n45S0Nan5FpEvMeU

https://www.roadtovr.com/htc-vive-cosmos-series-cosmos-elite-cosmos-play-cosmos-xr/

Road to VR

HTC Reveals Vive Proton, a Compact Standalone VR Headset Prototype

As if announcing three new Cosmos headsets wasn’t enough, HTC today also revealed Vive Proton. The company is calling this a “prototype” headset with two different flavors: a standalone VR headset and a ‘VR viewer’ which would be powered by a tethered device like a smartphone....

Road to VR

HTC Unveils Three New Vive Cosmos Headsets: Elite, Play, and XR

Buckle up, this one’s a doozy. HTC today introduced three new variants of its Vive Cosmos VR headset. Joining the original Cosmos is Cosmos Elite, Cosmos Play, and Cosmos XR. The four variants of the headset aim to cover a diverse set of customer interests. After a bumpy launc...

spring mantle Feb 21, 2020, 8:22 PM

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can i get an f

autumn tangle Feb 21, 2020, 9:25 PM

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cosmo pro elite notforgamersedition - only for corporate

void grove Feb 21, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Isn't the tracking on the base comos pretty bad? I can't image how it would be with less cameras. 🤔

haughty thistle Feb 21, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Yeah, the only one that makes any sense is the Elite, but at $1k it's going to be a tough sell with the Vive Wands. if they would include Index Controllers, then the price would make so much more sense...

void grove Feb 21, 2020, 10:10 PM

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yeah

spring mantle Feb 22, 2020, 10:30 AM

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im getting a refund oculus has it in stock from their own store

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so i will be buying from oculus

silver violet Feb 22, 2020, 10:30 AM

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Oof

spring mantle Feb 22, 2020, 11:30 AM

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yea

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now i have to wait until the 26th

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on overclockers its gone from pre order due today to just pre order (no date given)

wintry halo Feb 22, 2020, 9:53 PM

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thx

proven tundra Feb 22, 2020, 10:59 PM

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hello, i wanna ask about rift s

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can i use an extender for the usb and dp

haughty thistle Feb 22, 2020, 11:57 PM

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You can, but not every extender will work. You might have to try multiple different ones, before you find a set that works

proven tundra Feb 23, 2020, 12:11 AM

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oh ok, thanks for reply ~

gentle coral Feb 23, 2020, 1:03 AM

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@proven tundra I agree with @haughty thistle. You might want to check reviews of cables on Amazon or whatever you plan to get them, as usual one or two reviews for cable extensions are people who tried to use it for VR.

cyan pike Feb 23, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Windows mixed reality Dell for $110

lapis ledge Feb 23, 2020, 10:45 AM

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How can I use steam VR as my default VR home and ui and not the Oculus home in the background

haughty thistle Feb 23, 2020, 12:34 PM

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You can turn off auto-run of the Oculus Home in Settings -> General -> Run Oculus Home automatically (all the way at the bottom)
However I have not yet tried this, so your mileage may vary

surreal tide Feb 23, 2020, 2:04 PM

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It is impossible to use the oculus without oculus software running in the background, if that's what you're asking

lapis ledge Feb 23, 2020, 3:23 PM

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bruh

void grove Feb 23, 2020, 3:40 PM

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Broof

lapis ledge Feb 23, 2020, 5:18 PM

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how can i cahnge my oculus home backround?

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i know you can get this house backroung but i only got a white backround and i dont know how to cahnge it

spring mantle Feb 23, 2020, 5:25 PM

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I don't have my quest yet

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...

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This is bs

wispy wing Feb 23, 2020, 7:19 PM

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This is bs
@spring mantle Well, thank good'ol Corona for this ^^

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Got mine right before the outbreak ^^

spring mantle Feb 23, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Yeah

jovial gulch Feb 24, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Hi,

I'm the founder of a French start-up selling weapons for VR, (i poke around here sometimes)

We're huge fan of your content even if you shall do more VR 🤞

We would love to present some new toys to your team,

What could be the best way to contact anyone in the staff? (i get blocked anytime i try to message someone😓 )

hexed notch Feb 24, 2020, 6:00 PM

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They have a business email

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Somewhere

jovial gulch Feb 24, 2020, 6:02 PM

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@hexed notch would just want to know if they are even interested in the things we do before "official" contact

hexed notch Feb 24, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Ah makes sense

jovial gulch Feb 24, 2020, 6:03 PM

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cause VR things are damn specific

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so i'm not even sure LTT is interested in VR haptic guns/rifles

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(we're finally delivering our Haptic system, didn't wanted to poke LTT about this before this....)
Ps : I'm the ProTubeVR's founder

old dove Feb 24, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Does anyone have an idea when Valve is going to make their Index available for purchase in Australia?

hexed notch Feb 24, 2020, 7:27 PM

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https://roadtovrlive-5ea0.kxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/valve-index-stock-availability.png

old dove Feb 24, 2020, 7:42 PM

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So never? :( Australia doesn't even make that list

void grove Feb 25, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Wow

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fantastic!

hexed notch Feb 25, 2020, 3:17 AM

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its not available anywhere

abstract grove Feb 25, 2020, 11:55 AM

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availability ~~100~~ 0

wicked crown Feb 25, 2020, 1:12 PM

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why tf it sold out everywhere

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isnt it like 1000 USD?

sullen linden Feb 25, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Because vr is getting really popular

spring mantle Feb 25, 2020, 6:29 PM

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so status update

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i am getting the quest directly from oculus

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should come before the 29th

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Wating...

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...

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...

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overclockers uk have refunded

glad sand Feb 25, 2020, 9:08 PM

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@wicked crown one reason in particular: Half-Life Alyx

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They announced Alyx, the Index sold out, been sold out for months at this point

haughty thistle Feb 25, 2020, 9:28 PM

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That's because there are quite a number of "gamers" who think you can only play HLA on the Index, because "Valve want's to sell their $1k headset and doesn't care about our bank accounts"

glad sand Feb 25, 2020, 9:45 PM

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The Index, in fairness, is definitely the best way to play HLA, I'd like to get my hands on one after everyone completes Alyx and starts flipping them lol

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Should become reasonably priced at that point

spring mantle Feb 26, 2020, 5:59 PM

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my quest is comeing tmr

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yay

lethal edge Feb 26, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Any concrete stats for the upcoming HTC headsets?

gleaming jasper Feb 26, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Cosmos play looking nice tho

haughty thistle Feb 26, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Yeah, but considering the state of the normal Cosmos Tracking, the Cosmos Play tracking is probably going to suck even more. Hate to crush your dreams ^^"

spring mantle Feb 26, 2020, 9:24 PM

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HTC kinda went bad with the tracking

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Oculus did it perfect

haughty thistle Feb 26, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Even WMR with it's only 2 cameras has better tracking. I just don't get how HTC managed to F* up this bad tbh

spring mantle Feb 26, 2020, 9:53 PM

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They just did

gentle coral Feb 26, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Their software teams have always been a bit weird. And they dont get enough testers.

spring mantle Feb 27, 2020, 7:06 AM

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It's tmr but 7am

spring mantle Feb 27, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Ahhhhh

haughty thistle Feb 27, 2020, 6:16 PM

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👍

cloud pier Feb 27, 2020, 8:24 PM

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yaaa

golden thorn Feb 28, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Anyone have any success extending their cables for odyssey+?
Everything works great until I shoot a gun or something and then I get ear splitting static

thorny steeple Feb 28, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Found an oculus rift kit for 325

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It has the headset, two sensors and touch controllers

glad sand Feb 28, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Is that brand new? And USD?

tawdry gyro Feb 28, 2020, 8:03 PM

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@sullen linden Get a job and work for some money

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That's what I did

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Valve is changing the economy because they force the kids to go out and get a job to buy a VR

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I'm 17

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M8

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Bad excuse

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Get summer job

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I bought a pc for $1800

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and also gonna buy VR when it's available in my country again

tawdry gyro Feb 28, 2020, 8:39 PM

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lmao

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tru

spring mantle Feb 28, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Get a rift s

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If you don't want to do a bunch of work

tawdry gyro Feb 28, 2020, 8:56 PM

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I'm getting a Rift S

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Ain't nothing that's gonna change my opinion

hexed notch Feb 28, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Used to be that you had to get a job for your graphics card...

soft hound Feb 28, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Lol, I tried my GTX 950M laptop, and got 23FPS average in the SteamVR performance test

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002sip

haughty thistle Feb 28, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Yeah, what is generally considered VR capable is about the performance of a GTX 1060 (Desktop) with at least 4GB of VRAM

soft hound Feb 28, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Yes yes, I know lol, I just wanted to compare to my Vega, and see if I could even attempt to run my Vive off of it

haughty thistle Feb 28, 2020, 10:41 PM

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oh ok xD

spring mantle Feb 28, 2020, 11:29 PM

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I have a quest

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And it's day 2

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And I love the thing

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SUPERHOT (VR) is the most innovative shooter I have played in years.

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Don't give me spoilers for the vr version

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I have only finished the regular

tawdry gyro Feb 28, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Play Boneworks m8 @spring mantle

spring mantle Feb 28, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Oops

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That

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Not on the quest is it

tawdry gyro Feb 28, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Nope

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You can connect the quest to your pc though

spring mantle Feb 29, 2020, 12:00 AM

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One GPU = hd 520

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@tawdry gyro

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I3 6006u

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I mean I have c with a usb 3.0 bus

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And that's it

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Oh and the ram too

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12gb

tawdry gyro Feb 29, 2020, 12:01 AM

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I recently bought a pc for $1800

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MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X

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with a R5 3600

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and MSI X570 Gaming Pro Carbon

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Pretty nice ngl

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and 16gb Trident Z Neo 3600Mhz

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and a 2tb Samsung 860 QVO

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Lmao

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I'm VR prepared boy

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@spring mantle

spring mantle Feb 29, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Lucky

tawdry gyro Feb 29, 2020, 12:03 AM

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I mean you never wanted to play some heavy titles in VR I'm gonna guess?

spring mantle Feb 29, 2020, 12:03 AM

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I do want to play them

tawdry gyro Feb 29, 2020, 12:03 AM

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I worked to afford that PC lmao

spring mantle Feb 29, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Just boght a quest before building a 5700 rig

tawdry gyro Feb 29, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Manual labour doing dishes lmao

spring mantle Feb 29, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Well I am going to buils

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Build

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I am 13

tawdry gyro Feb 29, 2020, 12:04 AM

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$10/hour

spring mantle Feb 29, 2020, 12:04 AM

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So I can't work.

tawdry gyro Feb 29, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Ah

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Well you can

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definately

spring mantle Feb 29, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Need to be 14

tawdry gyro Feb 29, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Oh

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RiP then

spring mantle Feb 29, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Legally

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Yeah

tawdry gyro Feb 29, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Doesn't discord have a age restriction? dennyIshung

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Lol It's literally 13

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Good job on entering discord at the correct age lmao

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@spring mantle

spring mantle Feb 29, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Yes ik

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13 or older

tawdry gyro Feb 29, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Anyway I'll send some pics of my build in #screenshots and #build-a-pc when I've built it

spring mantle Feb 29, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Ok

tawdry gyro Feb 29, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Probably will be built next week on wednesday or smtn

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Still waiting on parts

spring mantle Feb 29, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Lucky

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And I am chatting in another server so bye for now

tawdry gyro Feb 29, 2020, 12:08 AM

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I hate that Oculus Rift S are out of stock in my country ):

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There isn't a single store which sells them atm

worthy heron Feb 29, 2020, 4:20 PM

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is the 64Gb model of the oculus quest enough for casual gaming? or should i save up for the 128 gig model

haughty thistle Feb 29, 2020, 4:33 PM

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I mean, if you don't plan on owning a ton of games for the Quest, than the 64GB variant is actually plenty enough. It does depend on the games you want to play and how many of them there are

tacit panther Feb 29, 2020, 5:15 PM

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im happy with my system, lenovo explorer works perfect apart from minor tracking issues that solve themselves nearly instantly, i can understand that he doesnt like the acer headset but not all of them are bad

cloud pier Feb 29, 2020, 9:20 PM

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I’d think 64 is perfectly fine for most people. While 128 would be for those who want pretty much all the games, to put movies on the system to watch later, do stuff like mod Beatsaber and add hundreds of custom songs, etc.

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I’ve only used like 10 gigs of space so far. But I don’t own a bunch of games yet xD

north delta Mar 2, 2020, 8:47 PM

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I have a Ryzen 5 1400, 8 GB of DDR4 3000 MHz RAM and a 1050 Ti. B350 mb so oc is possible. What are my chances of being able to run HL: Alyx? Most VR games work for me just fine with fps ranging from 75 (more demanding games, such as Skyrim, Pavlov) to stable 90 (beat saber, superhot vr).

shy terrace Mar 2, 2020, 8:56 PM

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well i have two cards. but a Ti should be fine for what you’re using. i mean obviously a what i’m doing (1060, and 1660Ti) is a but overkill it’s great for more demanding games like those. i’d recommend upgrading. these two cards combined are going to be a placeholder for an RTX i plan on getting in the future

north delta Mar 2, 2020, 9:17 PM

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I mean, I'm also concerned about ram, cuz HL Alyx is one of the first VR games that ask for 12.

hexed notch Mar 2, 2020, 9:32 PM

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1050ti is half the power of the 1660ti

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and barely over half the 1060

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if you are able to handle the lower fps without hurling, then first consider yourself lucky
and second, itll also just be lower fps too

vestal panther Mar 3, 2020, 11:33 AM

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Me and my manager messing around with my oculus vr at work, since Monday nights are slow

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It was his first time at beat saber

void grove Mar 3, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Nice

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ChikaSaber

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Not really a fan of rhythm games, but the one level if beat saber I played in the Microsoft store got me wanting it. But haven't gotten around to it yet.

polar raft Mar 3, 2020, 8:23 PM

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ltt

cloud pier Mar 3, 2020, 9:33 PM

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honkheadbluesaber

spring mantle Mar 4, 2020, 7:50 AM

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I have a quest what should my next £20 - 25 game be?

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I only have superhot

hexed notch Mar 4, 2020, 8:16 AM

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beat saber?

cloud pier Mar 4, 2020, 8:18 AM

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Beat Saber is a must have.

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noteBL pepoSabers noteRR

spring mantle Mar 4, 2020, 8:27 AM

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K

cloud pier Mar 4, 2020, 8:28 AM

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You can mod it too, to get custom songs onto it

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Just like the PC version

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Just that some mods aren't ported over yet / ever will be

spring mantle Mar 4, 2020, 8:31 AM

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All I want is custom songs

cloud pier Mar 4, 2020, 8:32 AM

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Search up "Beat Saber Modding Group"

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You'll find all you need from their help

honest kernel Mar 4, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Anyone know if it's possible connect vive controller to pc using a bluetooth adapter?

spring mantle Mar 4, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Beatsaber is a game for people who have an immense hatred of boxes

spring mantle Mar 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Time to buy beatsaber

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Now

haughty thistle Mar 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Vive Wands, Trackers and Index Controllers use a proprietary connection standard (probably 2.4GHz). You will need either a native SteamVR headset (which has 2 antennas build-in for connecting 2 devices) or a Vive Tracker dongle (which has 1 antenna for one device). Another method is to mod a Steam Controller Dongle to act like a Vive tracker Dongle, however that Steam Controller dongle will forever be a Vive Tracker dongle and can't be reverted to connect to the Steam Controller

cloud pier Mar 4, 2020, 10:56 PM

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@spring mantle I work at UPS 😛

sullen linden Mar 5, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Vr kewl

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I use my beats with my rift s cuz I do a lot of flight sims and stuff where Audio is a big factor

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Great headset for the price tho highly recommend

haughty thistle Mar 5, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Well, tell you opinion about Beats to #audio-tech, and you probably will get some other opinions xD
I can't say anything about Beats, since I never tried them, but pretty much all good headphones I ever had were not compatible with the Rift S, or are cheapo In-Ears xD

jovial gulch Mar 6, 2020, 12:54 PM

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can't even post a twitch clip there?

spring mantle Mar 6, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Is there any way to record/stream (twitch) on the quest

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No pc

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My pc is too potato to encode good

sullen linden Mar 6, 2020, 11:15 PM

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ye, i was wondering the same thing, as far as i know, side quest can do it to the pc but no audio, other than that... only some games allow streaming to certain services

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if you havent already started modding beat saber... https://github.com/kihecido/BMBF/releases/latest

GitHub

kihecido/BMBF

Contribute to kihecido/BMBF development by creating an account on GitHub.

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here, you will also need sidequest to help set it all up

sullen linden Mar 6, 2020, 11:44 PM

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another thing with sidequest... PAVLOV VR

spring mantle Mar 7, 2020, 4:47 PM

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i have not modded it yet

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also any way to get half lfie 2 vr mod onto the quest

spring mantle Mar 7, 2020, 6:57 PM

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okay so i think i could stream possible

thick burrow Mar 8, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Can anyone help me with the nvidia manage 3d settings in the control pannel, is there a better configuration to have it set on for vr gameing, ive got a decent rig, hasnt slowed down once in any game so was wondering what settings may help quality or tweak it a bit? Thanks, ive got a rift s btw

hexed notch Mar 8, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Set the power management mode to high performance

spring mantle Mar 8, 2020, 9:34 AM

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I think I can sideload omlet arcade so I can stream to twitch

sullen linden Mar 8, 2020, 3:20 PM

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If you have an rtx gpu you can turn on VRSS

jovial gulch Mar 9, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Laval Virtual show canceled in France 🤦

keen tartan Mar 11, 2020, 8:17 AM

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Do Vive lighthouses fit into the same threading that mic stands use?

hexed notch Mar 11, 2020, 9:08 AM

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It's the same one that camera stands use

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Not mics iirc

keen tartan Mar 11, 2020, 9:09 AM

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Good to know.

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Wanted to know if I needed to invest in this. https://www.amazon.com/CAMVATE-Thread-Adapter-Microphone-Monitor/dp/B013X10T1C

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After my dad gave me all his old recording equipment I ended up with a zillion old mic stands.

hexed notch Mar 11, 2020, 4:56 PM

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most mic stands that ive seen arent 8 feet tall but if yours are then sure i guess

silk heart Mar 11, 2020, 7:16 PM

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I THIBK beat saber is over hypde

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i cant typr

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type

haughty thistle Mar 11, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Well, if you don't like Rythm Games at all you will not like Beat Saber either, but otherwise I think Beat Saber is a neat game for many different purposes

spring mantle Mar 11, 2020, 10:42 PM

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@silk heart wrong

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It's amazing

hexed notch Mar 11, 2020, 10:59 PM

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@haughty thistle friend who absolutely hates music in general enjoys beat saber lol

young marten Mar 11, 2020, 11:07 PM

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I don’t like Rythm games but I like beat saber

swift knoll Mar 12, 2020, 12:42 PM

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i havent touched my index in a week 😂

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im too worried about breaking it before alyx

gritty mirage Mar 12, 2020, 1:53 PM

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I got a rift s but no way to run vr😢

heady radish Mar 12, 2020, 3:20 PM

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pp

spring mantle Mar 12, 2020, 3:52 PM

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F

junior gulch Mar 12, 2020, 6:41 PM

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F

round walrus Mar 13, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Topic: Will the Covid 19 scares lead to a mass growth in VR?

void grove Mar 13, 2020, 7:48 PM

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If they can reliably keep uncontaminated units in stock. Kappa

gentle coral Mar 13, 2020, 10:18 PM

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If it is a cv1 in good condition then yes.

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Though do you have a computer that can run it?

steady tapir Mar 14, 2020, 12:05 AM

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sorry for the random post, but is there any way to use like psmove controllers or wiimotes or other controllers with an oculus development kit 2 to play minecraft or is that just not possible

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sorry

hexed notch Mar 14, 2020, 12:24 AM

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dont appologize its a good question

gentle coral Mar 14, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Wiimote probably yes, psmove probably not.

Though Wii is not all that accurate it should work with a bit of modding.

steady tapir Mar 14, 2020, 1:20 AM

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ok, sorry im like going back and forth on ideas so quickly but that is how it be sometimes. So basically how do you verify that a secondhand vr headset still works when you buy it. Like I know you can't just power on an oculus rift but is there any way to verify that it is working before buying it? sorry

hexed notch Mar 14, 2020, 1:36 AM

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you cant

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check their post for screenshots of steamvr or oculus home

gentle coral Mar 14, 2020, 2:38 AM

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https://www.pcworld.com/article/3531976/no-pc-no-problem-shadow-supercharges-cloud-gaming-with-lower-prices-faster-hardware-and-vr.amp.html

No PC, no problem: Shadow supercharges cloud gaming with lower pric...

This GeForce Now rival just got a lot more competitive.

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Shadow now has VR over cloud

hexed notch Mar 14, 2020, 3:16 AM

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🤢

cloud pier Mar 14, 2020, 5:54 AM

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@steady tapir Try and meet somewhere where you can test it out, or if they/you/a friend have/s a VR capable laptop, bring that.

If you're purchasing online, record yourself opening the package, plugging it in, and testing it out. Make sure to note any damage to the package, and if it looks like it was re-taped / opened previously.

haughty thistle Mar 14, 2020, 11:26 AM

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@steady tapir, about your first Question: you can run VR with PSMove controllers, there even is a piece of software out there that makes the setup pretty easy. You do however need a full-color webcam (preferably a PS3 Eye camera) in order for it to work

gentle coral Mar 14, 2020, 11:19 PM

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@fair lance , @haughty thistle

Cool, I though the psmove only worked with the ps eye camera which I thought had issues running on anything other then a playstation.

Whereas I know may people who have modded Wii. Stuff.

Psmove is generally higher accuracy than Wii though so it is definitely worth looking into.

haughty thistle Mar 14, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Yeah. This guy used an Original Rift CV 1 before the touch controllers got released, I'm guessing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiLYa1EZL04

YouTube

VirtuallyChris

The Official PSMoveService Tutorial | Vive Games on Oculus using PS...

Welcome to the official PSMoveService tutorial! This tutorial will teach you how to setup PS Move controllers and PS Eye webcams to use as an alternative to Vive wand tracking in SteamVR. This allows any HMD compatible with SteamVR to unlock the power of tracked controllers.
_...

▶ Play video

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Obviously there is newer software out there, but this was one of the better tutorials out there I found on the quick, and apparently this is still the way to do it

sullen linden Mar 16, 2020, 1:40 AM

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recommended free games for VR?

warm tundra Mar 16, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Duck Season

cloud pier Mar 16, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Rabbit Season

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https://tenor.com/view/duck-season-rabbit-season-bugs-bunny-daffy-duck-gif-12196937

Tenor

autumn remnant Mar 16, 2020, 5:55 PM

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what are some multiplayer games besides rec room that can be played on pc or vr

sullen linden Mar 16, 2020, 7:12 PM

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@autumn remnant Do you mean like social games or multiplayer objective games?

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Oh wait do you mean that they can be played both desktop and in vr?

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If so then VRChat

sand swan Mar 16, 2020, 9:11 PM

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The forest as well

glad sand Mar 16, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Payday 2 is another VR + desktop mode game

exotic furnace Mar 17, 2020, 3:56 AM

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all the Rift S are sold out...

silk heart Mar 17, 2020, 7:51 PM

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beatsaber bad

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i like music

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but

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beat saber bad

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it is ok

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not super good

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but ok

sullen linden Mar 17, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Beatsaber is good but I got bored of it after 60h

spring mantle Mar 17, 2020, 8:49 PM

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@exotic furnace no

haughty thistle Mar 17, 2020, 9:28 PM

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BeatSaber only get's really fun once you reach the Expert difficulty

sullen linden Mar 17, 2020, 10:48 PM

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I was doing expert+ with mods but it just gets really repetitive after a while

hexed notch Mar 17, 2020, 11:00 PM

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isnt the regular price $400?

glad sand Mar 18, 2020, 12:33 AM

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imho not worth double the price of the CV1

nocturne plover Mar 18, 2020, 1:00 AM

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https://www.proxibid.com/Computers-Electronics/DAQRI-DEVELOPER-EDITION-AUGMENTED-REALITY-SMART-HEADSET-HELMET/lotInformation/53134411

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Look at that thing

gentle coral Mar 18, 2020, 7:26 AM

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You should see it in real life. It is atrocious. And as a skier and biker I wear helmets a lot.

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And when I first saw a daqri helmet at AWE a few years ago I had to try so hard not to laugh while in the booth.

keen tartan Mar 18, 2020, 11:55 AM

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@hexed notch Lots of mic stands easily extend that high.

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Especially the ones meant for overhead use.

hexed notch Mar 18, 2020, 7:02 PM

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That's an old comment ngl

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But floor and stage mic stands don't usually extend that high

cerulean plover Mar 19, 2020, 12:06 AM

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hey can a fsx-8350 and a 1050 run vr i dont know what the mim spec are for vr

soft hound Mar 19, 2020, 12:20 AM

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A non-Ti 1050?

cerulean plover Mar 19, 2020, 12:20 AM

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just any kind

soft hound Mar 19, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Not very well, but some easy to run games should be ok, though I'd invest in upgrades before investing in a headset if you plan on playing more demanding games

cerulean plover Mar 19, 2020, 12:21 AM

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i personly dony have a ti 1050 but i might upgrade to a 1060-70-80

soft hound Mar 19, 2020, 12:21 AM

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You can always try the SteamVR performance test

cerulean plover Mar 19, 2020, 12:22 AM

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but with the 1080 i thank i will have to upgrade my cpu also and ok

soft hound Mar 19, 2020, 12:23 AM

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You'll likely have to upgrade your CPU to keep your system more or less balanced with nearly all of those cards for VR

cerulean plover Mar 19, 2020, 12:23 AM

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oh then what should i upgrade it to a ryzen 5

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?

soft hound Mar 19, 2020, 12:24 AM

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Ryzen works great for VR, yes

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Though you'd need to get an all new motherboard and RAM as well

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Kanna_Shleep

cerulean plover Mar 19, 2020, 12:24 AM

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ya i just realized that

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oof sounds like maby a 60-100 dollor upgrade

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600

soft hound Mar 19, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Yeah, plus the cost of the headset itself

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Not entirely cheap to get into PC driven VR

cerulean plover Mar 19, 2020, 12:26 AM

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so like 200 max

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2000

soft hound Mar 19, 2020, 12:26 AM

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I wouldn't say that much, unless you went and bought a 1080 and an Index

cerulean plover Mar 19, 2020, 12:26 AM

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true

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my next build i cut make it cost less bc i whent with rgb and all that

soft hound Mar 19, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Ah, the price of aesthetic

cerulean plover Mar 19, 2020, 12:28 AM

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off englis

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english

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is baisc cooler for rayzen good or should i bye 3-party

soft hound Mar 19, 2020, 12:30 AM

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The ones that come with the Ryzen 5's are totally fine as long as you don't plan on overclocking, which isn't entirely necessary with 3rd Gen Ryzen anyways

cerulean plover Mar 19, 2020, 12:31 AM

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how do you know if it third gen or not it wierd

soft hound Mar 19, 2020, 12:31 AM

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The first number

cerulean plover Mar 19, 2020, 12:31 AM

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if it a 3600 is it third gen

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then

soft hound Mar 19, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Yeah, since it's 3600, it's 3rd gen

cerulean plover Mar 19, 2020, 12:32 AM

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ok thanks

nocturne plover Mar 19, 2020, 12:49 AM

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What is a good budget starter vr headset?

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I've never tried VR before

soft hound Mar 19, 2020, 12:57 AM

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If you're not interested in buying used, then the only real PC VR option would be the Rift S

glad sand Mar 19, 2020, 12:57 AM

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@cerulean plover if your region permits, going used for the components would save you quite a lot, same for the headset. r/hardwareswap babyyy

nocturne plover Mar 19, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Cool, i'll try that. Thanks

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Did you guys see that augmented reality helmet thing Iposted last night?

gentle coral Mar 19, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Yes, I've tried it in real life and it is quite bad. Hololense 2 is the only decent AR headset available right now. Magic leap is ok as well. But most AR headsets are glorified paperweights once you look at the number of usable apps. The only decent and accessible AR headset is ultraleap's project northstar. I like it even more then hololense 2 due to ammount of consumer content (works with steamvr (even the tracking if you put a vive puck on it.)

hallow osprey Mar 19, 2020, 7:38 AM

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Need the opinion of a Vive and Index/index controllers owner who has played Boneworks, would you say i should wait until i can get the index controllers before i play HL:A or is it not that big of a deal ?

haughty thistle Mar 19, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Good Explenation here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T54aGkkXfuc
Ultimately, I'd suggest you get the Index controllers if you have the original Vive wands, as the controls are pretty weird according to the guys over at Tested (the only people I know of who spoken publicly about actually having tried the game)

YouTube

Adam Savage’s Tested

Half-Life: Alyx Hands-On! Tested on 8 VR Headsets

We've played some Half-Life: Alyx! Tested spent a day playing Valve's upcoming full-length VR game across 8 different headsets to evaluate how the game looks and plays on devices ranging from the original HTC Vive to Oculus Quest. We show how the game's various mechanics work ...

▶ Play video

dire wind Mar 20, 2020, 3:19 AM

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So is the rift s out of stock everywhere

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Because I’ve been looking to get myself one for my b-day

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And no one I can see has them in stock

spring mantle Mar 20, 2020, 5:11 PM

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i got the quest as soo an there was a new wave

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just wait

soft hound Mar 20, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Valve is stating it will take 7-9 weeks before it's even ready to ship

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Bored

spring mantle Mar 20, 2020, 7:22 PM

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f

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i got a quest as soon as they restocked

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just need a pc to run alyx

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2 years

soft hound Mar 20, 2020, 7:25 PM

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I mean, I could play Alyx on my Vive, but I'd rather not use the Vive Wands for it (Plus I'd have to buy the game in the meantime)

glad sand Mar 20, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Damn, I got my Index really recently, ordered it when they first re-opened orders. It's absolutely amazing

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And yeah, after using the knuckles, the Vive wands are definitely a downgrade, but would still work

haughty thistle Mar 20, 2020, 10:28 PM

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You know life hates you when one of your Index Controller break a few days before HLA release. Thankfully I have a Quest with a Link Cable for Backup. But Life hated me even more and the 5m extension cord for it broke pretty much with my Index controller. Not that I'm stuck to Quest games and flat games, since I do have another extension, but that one is just 1.5m. So, yeah. Life really hates me rn 😦

hexed notch Mar 20, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Oh no :(

haughty thistle Mar 20, 2020, 10:31 PM

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I ordered a new extension cord. According to Amazon delivery will be on Monday. I keep my fingerers crossed that I hopefully will be able to play HLA on release day in Roomscale rather than just seated/standing

hexed notch Mar 20, 2020, 10:32 PM

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My bottleneck is the size of my room

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And you can't exactly change that

haughty thistle Mar 20, 2020, 10:32 PM

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I can imagine. What's roughly the size of your play area?

hexed notch Mar 20, 2020, 10:33 PM

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I had to place a corner inside my desk otherwise I wouldn't meet the minimum for roomscalr

haughty thistle Mar 20, 2020, 10:33 PM

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oof

spring mantle Mar 20, 2020, 10:38 PM

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the touch controllers i would consider to be like the mini knuckels

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you can still make gestures with em

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n shiz

hexed notch Mar 20, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Yea no not even close

haughty thistle Mar 20, 2020, 10:44 PM

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You're both right and wrong. The original Touch controllers are pretty close to the Index controllers, minus the full five-finger-tracking part. The new Touch controllers for the Rift S and Quest did away with 2 sensors (the thumb rest on the top and the capacitive sensor on the Grip). because of that the new Touch controller are further away from the Index Controller. Not to say they are bad, they are still leaps better than the WMR and Vive controllers, but not quite on the Level of the Index ones...

hexed notch Mar 20, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Thing is tho

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That's only an added benefit of the knuckles

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Imo the largest advantage is the fact that you can 100% let go of them

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Like the touch controllers are great and all

haughty thistle Mar 20, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Nothing you can't add to the new Touch controllers, but since the stem on the new touch controllers are smaller than the ones on the Index, those mods are not very big-hand friendly

hexed notch Mar 20, 2020, 10:55 PM

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I mean

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I have micro hands

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I used my cv1 for about a year

haughty thistle Mar 20, 2020, 10:56 PM

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I have medium sized hands and would probably not be able to use such an aftermarket strap

hexed notch Mar 20, 2020, 10:57 PM

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And not once was I 100% lost in the games
I have 2 scars on my hands now from wacking my bookshelf really hard

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Both were aquired in my time with the index

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Tho hmm

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Can you use the touch controllers with the index headset?

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Shoot
I work on monday

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Ah well

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I'll take the extra cash

haughty thistle Mar 20, 2020, 11:01 PM

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With the Rift CV1 Touch controllers it was possible to put tape on the wear sensor in the headset to make it work with Steam VR under the condition that the SteamVR native headset was already running. It was kindof like using Index controllers with an Oculus headset, except that you had to have the oculus compositor running in the background rendering an image for second headset. With the new Touch controllers you need to wear the headset, as otherwise the tracking will stop working if you move more than about a meter away from the headset

hexed notch Mar 20, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Yea

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I have a cv1

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But I'm not sure my VR comp will handle a second headset...

haughty thistle Mar 20, 2020, 11:04 PM

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A second GPU just for the Oculus compositor would be recommended, yes

hexed notch Mar 20, 2020, 11:18 PM

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Uuhhh

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Was more concerned about my cpu

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6700k and 2080ti lol

haughty thistle Mar 20, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Yeah, it's not really something that is recommended anyways. The CV1 uses OLED panels, and you will get burn-in if you let it running, while not wearing it...

hexed notch Mar 20, 2020, 11:47 PM

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not if its displaying all black lol

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yeee

gentle coral Mar 21, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Anyone here planning to do a livestream of Half life Alyx on Monday? (I'm going to try, but my internet gets weird sometimes).

hallow osprey Mar 21, 2020, 9:11 AM

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@gentle coral You could go watch the guys from VNN ( valve news network), he said he is going to stream the game until his battery dies, and then he will stop, charge and play the next day without skipping ahead so viewers without it can see the entire thing in a single linear viewing

gentle coral Mar 21, 2020, 10:25 AM

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I'm not planning to watch other playthroughs since I don't want it spoiled, I just was wondering how may people will be trying to livestream half life. (I am guessing most VR livestreamers will be doing it, but also a lot of other ganers).

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But thanks for the recommendation

autumn remnant Mar 21, 2020, 7:14 PM

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i got just got prison boss vr can not figure out how to start the game please help

haughty thistle Mar 23, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Btw. For anyone wanting to get a cable for Quest Link in Europe, I can no longer recommend the 5m CSL USB 3 extension. Mine just broke after about 2 months...

spring mantle Mar 23, 2020, 2:08 PM

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does the quest come with a usb 3.0 one

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i know its usb

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but

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(i have a quest)

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does it come with the link cable if it was made and shipped after the link cable was availabale

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i cant spell

haughty thistle Mar 23, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Nope. you do need to buy a seperate cable for Quest Link. I don't even know if the included cable can even transfer data, but what I do know is that it won't work with Quest Link

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My new recommendation, for if you don't want to get the 80$ official cable, is still the .9m Anker Powerline cable, but now with a 5m Ugreen USB 3 extension (notable is the Micro-USB on the active extender for external Power)

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Unlike the CSL one, this one works with all my USB ports and seems a lot higher Quality too

spring mantle Mar 23, 2020, 2:17 PM

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it can transfer data

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i have used it to mod beat saber

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okay

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ill keep this in mind for 2 years when i get a vr capable pc to play hl alyx and stuff

umbral garden Mar 23, 2020, 2:48 PM

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I think planning two years ahead is a bit optimistic for this kind of stuff

twilit sage Mar 23, 2020, 11:31 PM

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It is lmao

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It's too optimistic, tone the expectations down my man

sullen linden Mar 24, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Funny how the first thing that impressed me in HL - Alyx was the fact I could pick up an empty can and crush it by squeezing the controller harder

gentle coral Mar 24, 2020, 3:48 AM

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I am guessing you have the index controllers.

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Though I'll try to do that in a few minutes

sullen linden Mar 24, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Yeah Index

keen tartan Mar 24, 2020, 5:21 AM

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I've got the PC all ready, it's just accruing the funds for a freaking headset that's gotten challenging.

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A couple of months ago, bog standard Vives were going used for $300 or so. I got more money since then, just in time to see them double up in price.

gentle coral Mar 24, 2020, 8:26 AM

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So far I have really liked HLA, played the about 4 hours yesterday.

Sadly I need to restart, as my livestream was incredibly buggy. Fixed it by switching router cables (unstable 3 MB upload to stable 6MB upload) and switching to NVENC encoding (brought CPU down from 100% to 30% and GPU up from 50% to 60%).

Still replaying the first bit of the game is a lot of fun.

I might even borrow the public VR setup I take care of to play on, until San Francisco's shelter in place ends. (My home setup is not nearly as good).

Now if only it was possible to borrow the network that computer is on (symmetric gigabit air laser direct to major ISP distro building).

gentle coral Mar 24, 2020, 11:08 AM

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Sweet, new headset from HP might be coming soon.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.roadtovr.com/hp-reverb-g2-valve-microsoft/amp/

Road to VR

HP Teases New Reverb G2 Headset Made in Collaboration with Valve

HP today announced it is building a new VR headset, called Reverb G2, in collaboration with Valve and Microsoft. There’s very little to go on, as the only thing available right now is a single teaser video. Here it is, in all its ambiguous glory: HP also left us with this stat...

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Also for anyone here who likes making their own VR projects. Here is a great idea.

https://www.roadtovr.com/developer-turned-apartment-vr-game/

For refrence I have done this before and it is a lot of fun (though tethered headsets are annoying for this type of project).

Road to VR

This Developer Turned His Apartment Into a VR Game

Playing VR games is a great way to stay active, both mentally and physically. But when all is said and done, you’re still only traversing around a pretty small footprint—even smaller if you’re stuck in an apartment. Greg Madison, a UX designer at Unity and fellow indoorsman, o...

haughty thistle Mar 24, 2020, 2:59 PM

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The Reverb G2 has some striking similarities to the Index, now that I look at it more closely. Perhaps having the Index Face Gaskets recommended on it's Steam Page could be another hint?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1271440/Next_Gen_HP_VR_Headset/

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Steam

Next Gen HP VR Headset

The next generation HP Virtual Reality HMD–developed in collaboration with Valve and Microsoft–delivers an immersive, comfortable and compatible VR experience. It’s the new standard in VR.

▶ Play video

void grove Mar 25, 2020, 6:49 AM

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I doubt it, considering another vr headset is recommended on it too

gentle coral Mar 25, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Though also the cost of steamvr tracking dev dropped through the floor recently, I assume that price drop hit the big companies months earlier.

For those who don't know what I am talking about, I'll repost it

https://www.roadtovr.com/tundra-labs-steamvr-tracking-hdk-tl448k6d-gp-hdk/amp/

Road to VR

SteamVR Tracking Dev Kit Aims to Make VR Controllers Cheaper, Easie...

Tundra Labs is releasing a new SteamVR Tracking hardware development kit. Featuring a tiny new module which condenses the necessary control, processing, and communication components into a mere 16mm × 10mm, the hardware development kit is smaller and cheaper, and aims to strea...

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That kit works for headset dev just as much as for controllers.

haughty thistle Mar 25, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Pimax eh...

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Honestly the on-paper specs are impressive, but from what I've heard the PiMax Headsets have some pretty noticeable Lens distortion towards your peripheral view (again see the Video from Tested I posted earlier)
I'd suggest go for the Index instead if you want to have a top-of-the-line VR experience. Plus it would be cheaper and easier to run on current Hardware (I honestly don't think you would get good framerates even out of the most extreme Gaming Rig with the 8K X)
@sullen linden

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2 Lighthouses are absoluetly enough for Steam Tracking. All you will be able to do with a 3rd Base station is potential dead-spot elimination

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I'd say wait until we have more details on the HP Reverb G2, especially considering that the Index currently is not deliverable

sand swan Mar 25, 2020, 9:36 PM

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So if anyone is playing half life alyx with the vive pro, you can turn off direct mode in steamvr and then lower the brightness in Nvidia control panel. Let's you take full advantage of the oled panels. The dark zombie infested scenes are then truly pitch black.

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Youll get the black smearing effect in brighter scenes if you're looking closely, but I hate looking at oled mura more

haughty thistle Mar 25, 2020, 11:56 PM

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I'ma just gonna say what most people have to decide between:
Next Gen Console or VR. They'll probably cost around the same price when the new consoles come out (considering that the Quest is just 400$ for everything you need)

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In the end everyone has to decide on their own what they value more, but for me it would be VR anytime over a console xD

sullen linden Mar 26, 2020, 2:48 AM

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I didn't know half life alyx was supposed to be a horror game

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I was almost the most scared I've ever been in vr

soft hound Mar 26, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Oh? It is?

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I'll have to compare it to The Forest then

wise wadi Mar 26, 2020, 3:47 AM

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@soft hound Yep it's a horror game

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Horror/Sci-Fi I guess

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It's still really good and it's not entirely horror

soft hound Mar 26, 2020, 3:48 AM

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Interesting, I just have to wait 5-7 weeks before I can play it

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Bored

wise wadi Mar 26, 2020, 3:48 AM

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stay clear of anywhere you think there could be a spoiler

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it is huge

soft hound Mar 26, 2020, 3:48 AM

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I have been lol

wise wadi Mar 26, 2020, 3:49 AM

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gl

gentle coral Mar 26, 2020, 8:26 AM

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since I can stream Half life Alyx, I wish I had more upload, I really want to stream to the LTT discord, as well as to youtube and twitch (through restream), but I fear that I would lower my quality to much by trying to do both. But I can't self promote here so I cant post my stream link. I really wish I had symmetric.

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I'm wondering if they will ever add a stream announce channel or promotion channel like that (though it would open up a major can of worms). Since I do game testing and hardware tech news it saddens me that I can never share any of the work I do here since it would be self promotion.

But those channels would go nuts really fast.

haughty thistle Mar 26, 2020, 12:03 PM

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If you are a Twitch Affiliate you're not allowed to do simultaneous streams to other platforms. They have an exclusivity clause in their Affiliate Agreement, which states, than any content streamed to Twitch has to be exclusive to Twitch for at least 24h after finishing the Stream. I only found out, because I was bored one day and actually read the agreement xD

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Probably not really an enforced rule, but if you Value your Twitch account, I would not risk it tbh

vapid depot Mar 26, 2020, 6:20 PM

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hey there

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quest owners, should i wait for a quest gen 2 or go with the current one

dire wind Mar 26, 2020, 6:23 PM

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I don’t own a quest but I would say wait for gen 2

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Besides the current quest and rift s are sold out worldwide last I checked

spring mantle Mar 26, 2020, 6:50 PM

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I didn't know half life alyx was supposed to be a horror game
shut up shut up shut up

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no spoilers

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sorry if i sound rude but im a fan

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and dont want any spoilers

sullen linden Mar 26, 2020, 8:01 PM

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I mean that isn't really a spoiler

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And I'm not going to any further detail

gentle coral Mar 26, 2020, 8:07 PM

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i am not a twitch affiliate so i am fine (I would never be one anyways, as I don't fully agree with their methods, same with Youtube. I want to be on floatplane, and the internet archive (I am helping design a streaming system for the archive)).

signal glade Mar 27, 2020, 2:27 AM

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Out of curiosity, what's the Snapdragon 835 equivalent to in comparison to a Nvidia or even AMD graphics card?

hexed notch Mar 27, 2020, 2:51 AM

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depends what you are doing

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image processing?

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1060

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games?

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730

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wait no not even lol

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gt710

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is faster than the 835

haughty thistle Mar 27, 2020, 10:00 AM

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But the Quest has some crazy optimized games. So they look more like they're running on a 960 perhaps...

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At least on the Oculus Quest

restive ridge Mar 27, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Does Alyx require the Index controllers, or can I still play it just fine with the original Vive hardware?

haughty thistle Mar 27, 2020, 4:27 PM

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You can play it with any headset that is supported by SteamVR and has hand presence. So yeah, OG Vive with it's wand controllers is supported

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However due to the very restrictive nature of the controllers, the Controls are a little funky according to Tested and other reviews I've seen which tried HLA on the Vive wands

autumn tangle Mar 27, 2020, 5:06 PM

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~~who uses vive wands~~

restive ridge Mar 27, 2020, 6:38 PM

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lol I bought the Vive when it first came out along with the TP Cast wireless adapter for it. Drilled a hole in the floor, ran cables and set up the TP Cast router downstairs, set up a play room in my basement, played Rec Room Paintball for...longer than I probably should have, and haven't touched VR in like 2 years.
But now it's like, to play all these new games, you need new hardware. I'm having a hard time justifying buying anything more when I don't know if I got $1000 use out of everything I already purchased and set up.

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I thought the Index Controllers would be like $50 by themselves but...$250...just to play Alyx.....I don't think I can bring myself to do that.

soft quarry Mar 27, 2020, 6:41 PM

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i have a vive with the tpcast DAS and index controllers and it was all worth it

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i'm looking at headset upgrades though but i need a gpu upgrade first

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brings me to ask - any vr headsets going to come out that could possibly beat the index

haughty thistle Mar 27, 2020, 11:50 PM

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We don't know about the HP Reverb G2 yet

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That could be a potential alternative for those seeking an Index, but other than that we only have the announced PiMax Artisan, but it'll have compromises over the Index like a basic rubber strap instead of a proper head-mount, no build-in audio and PiTool

sullen linden Mar 28, 2020, 12:06 AM

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anyone wanna watch me play HL Alyx?

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Tag me if so

hexed notch Mar 28, 2020, 12:10 AM

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There's also the old rumored Oculus half dome and the new Samsung bug one

haughty thistle Mar 28, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Yeah, but neither are announced yet. So they might never even release. Or they could be announced tomorrow. Who knows. I'd prefer to stick with things that we actually know are planned to be released in any perceivable future

hexed notch Mar 28, 2020, 2:18 AM

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i mean

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the hp reverb is at the same state as the samsung

gentle coral Mar 28, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Not exactly, the reverb G2 has a webpage and was officially revealed to the press as an upcoming headset. The Samsung one is just a detailed patent (Samsung has not said anything)

sullen linden Mar 28, 2020, 10:06 AM

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is ryzen 5 2600 enough to support valve index with half liofe alyx

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?

autumn tangle Mar 28, 2020, 10:14 AM

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https://twitter.com/cloneteee1019/status/1243675615615737858?s=21

Max ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (@CloneTeee1019)

Half-Life: Alyx has a model for Mr. Valve in the intro sequence. After 22 years we can finally see his face. https://t.co/85ohxn0DrR

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▶ Play video

haughty thistle Mar 28, 2020, 12:31 PM

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@sullen linden The CPU is more than enough. The Important bit is your GPU. Anything GTX 1060 or better should be enough for more lower end headsets like the Rift S or 1st Gen, however if you wanna play with the Index headset I'd suggest going for at least a 1070 for a playable experience or a 1080 if you wanna make full use of the 144Hz display

void grove Mar 28, 2020, 2:21 PM

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They didn't use the same valve intro they used for the lab? 🤔 that's kind of disappointing

sullen linden Mar 28, 2020, 2:29 PM

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@haughty thistle thanks so much ❤

hexed notch Mar 29, 2020, 12:53 AM

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What

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The lab intro was booring

gentle coral Mar 29, 2020, 1:00 AM

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A great article about the graphics cards you want to have for half life Alyx

https://www.pcgamer.com/half-life-alyx-best-gpu-best-headset/?region-switch=1585049130

I'm running off of a GTX 1070 maxQ and can happily get 90 fps min on medium settings

pcgamer

The best GPU and VR headset for Half-Life: Alyx

Alyx isn't the most demanding game on PC, but it'll take every bit of video RAM you can throw at it.

soft hound Mar 29, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Great article, though some amusing typos, leading to some inconclusive paragraphs lol

gentle coral Mar 29, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Yep

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If you don't know how your graphics card stacks up, go online and compare your graphics card to one of the ones tested.

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Or run the tests they are doing with fcat VR.

stark mantle Mar 29, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Does anyone here own a oculus quest?

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Need help

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I need to know what kind of cables to use to play desktop games

vital vortex Mar 29, 2020, 7:55 PM

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@stark mantle i have a rift but i think all you need is the quest link cable

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https://www.oculus.com/quest/accessories/?locale=en_US

Oculus Quest Accessories & Parts | Oculus

Shop Oculus Quest accessories and replacement parts for all your Oculus Quest needs. Find travel cases, headphones, controllers, the facial interface & more.

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you can find much cheaper ones on amazon though

stark mantle Mar 29, 2020, 8:02 PM

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I havent bought it yet

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Would be nice not to buy an extra one ^^

haughty thistle Mar 29, 2020, 8:02 PM

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@stark mantle If you don't want to spend the 80$ for the official one (or it's not available in your region or not in stock and can't wait), the .9m Anker Power Line (non-plus) Type-C to USB 3 cable worked fine for me with the 5m USB 3 extension from Ugreen

vital vortex Mar 29, 2020, 8:02 PM

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^^

stark mantle Mar 29, 2020, 8:04 PM

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https://mackabler.no/anchor-powerline-usb-c-til-usb-30-0-9m-svart-1240.html

Anker Powerline USB-C til USB 3,0 0, 9m svart - Mackabler.no fra A...

USB-C til USB 3,0 toppkvalitets kabel fra anker. USB-C-kabler kan brukes til mange nyere enheter som MacBook, Samsung, Nintendo Switch og mange andre. Anker er kjent for sine spesielt gode kvalitet, hvor deres kabler er testet for å kunne gjennomgå mange tusen Bend. Denne USB ...

haughty thistle Mar 29, 2020, 8:04 PM

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The thing about any of the cheaper options is that they are generally lower quality and might break on you at any time. I have yet to read of people who's official Link cable broke, but I had an unofficial cable break on me without any early signs. You might still get lucky and never have any issues with a 3rd party one

stark mantle Mar 29, 2020, 8:04 PM

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So this one would work fine?

vital vortex Mar 29, 2020, 8:04 PM

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watch out though, if a passive (non powered) cable is too long you may have signal strength issues

stark mantle Mar 29, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Im from norway btw 😅

haughty thistle Mar 29, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Yep that's the Anker cable I got. And I got this to extend the cable to a usable length: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01FQ88CE6
(German Amazon Link, but I'm sure you can find this one on the Norwegian Amazon page as well)

stark mantle Mar 29, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Thanks guys 😃

vital vortex Mar 29, 2020, 8:09 PM

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👍

haughty thistle Mar 29, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Np ^^

sullen linden Mar 29, 2020, 9:11 PM

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I'm mildly triggered

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I finished all of alyx with a playtime of 9 hours

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;-;

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although i am missing 10 achievements

gentle coral Mar 30, 2020, 7:37 AM

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Linus recently did a video about trying out different headsets and graphics cards for HLA he mentions the anker cable and the active extension. Wach that video (if it's out on YouTube yet).

gentle coral Mar 30, 2020, 11:34 AM

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Someone in gaming asked a VR question that I want to post here.

anyone here streamer + vr player? how can i view chat while in vr? in know in beatsaber there is a mod for it (talking about Twitch as Streaming Platform)

My response was

For the chat while in vr it definitely depends on game and headset, I recommend posting that question in the VR channel here on discord. I just ignore chat while in VR, if I had more people watch my steam I would probably pause and switch the steamvr view to desktop (where I would keep my chat open (if anyone said anything to me, ever)). I generally think notifications are currently very inefficient in VR and are not well supported, and having a chat bar would require some sort of compositor overlay (which is probably doable).

Ask in the vr channel, then check the internet.

Do any of you have any better ways that you do it?

sullen linden Mar 30, 2020, 12:10 PM

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@gentle coral You could use OVRtoolkit, OVRdrop or XSoverlay to have your desktop windows open and usable within vr

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I use either OVRtoolkit or XSoverlay every time I'm in vr to use my desktop. They both allow you to open individual windows and move them around or attach them to your hand or somewhere around you.

haughty thistle Mar 30, 2020, 4:17 PM

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^ OVRToolkit is perfect

sullen linden Mar 30, 2020, 5:38 PM

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I switched to XSoverlay from toolkit just because I personally prefer it

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Had some features the toolkit doesn't

soft hound Mar 30, 2020, 6:14 PM

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I second OVRToolkit, use it daily, it's great

visual mesa Mar 30, 2020, 8:49 PM

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You ever get so into beat saber just to have it end over you punching a hole in your solid door?

haughty thistle Mar 30, 2020, 8:51 PM

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o.O

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How? Don't you pay attention to your Chaperone/Guardian?

visual mesa Mar 30, 2020, 8:51 PM

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I never use it.

haughty thistle Mar 30, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Well, now you know, why you should

visual mesa Mar 30, 2020, 8:52 PM

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📎 JPEG_20200330_165201.jpg

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That one hurt.

gentle coral Mar 31, 2020, 2:25 AM

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The person was asking for overlays that work while in game , not vr desktop apps. (Otherwise I would also have recommended ovrtoolkit), or does ovrtoolkit have that feature now.

sullen linden Mar 31, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Like what do you mean by overlays

umbral zenith Mar 31, 2020, 4:51 AM

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📎 AT-cm_560282176.mp4

gentle coral Mar 31, 2020, 6:37 AM

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@umbral zenith yes that type of overlay. Was that done with ovrtoolkit or something else?

umbral zenith Mar 31, 2020, 6:55 AM

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oh???

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i wasnt payin attention to the chat @gentle coral, but its a mod for beatsaber itself

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called enhanced stream chat

gentle coral Mar 31, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Cool, people are looking for a way to do that for any game as it would be helpful for streamers.

sullen linden Mar 31, 2020, 1:27 PM

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You can do that with toolkit or xsoverlay...

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Just spawn the chat window, pin it somewhere and adjust the transparency if you want

haughty thistle Mar 31, 2020, 4:35 PM

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With OVRToolkit the Window doesn't have to be in the front for it to be updated automatically (unlike OVR Drop from what I heard)

deft moss Apr 1, 2020, 11:30 AM

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Anyone here owning a vr and is interesed in a steam key for Tilt Brush? I got one in an humble bundle but i already got it.
Free of charge.. ofcourse!

sullen linden Apr 1, 2020, 3:19 PM

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@deft moss i wouldn't mind it. I need to do some vr art tbh

fresh charm Apr 1, 2020, 3:58 PM

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@deft moss does your offer still stand

deft moss Apr 1, 2020, 3:59 PM

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@fresh charm Sorry, Elf was first! @sullen linden send me a DM please 🙂

fresh charm Apr 1, 2020, 3:59 PM

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aight

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but if he dont respond tho linuth

sullen linden Apr 1, 2020, 4:01 PM

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I responded

fresh charm Apr 1, 2020, 4:01 PM

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dang it

deft moss Apr 1, 2020, 4:10 PM

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@fresh charm If you check the current corona humble bundle you'll get an AMAZING bundle (including tilbrush) for just 28 euro's (or whatever your currency)

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https://www.humblebundle.com/conquer-covid19-bundle?hmb_source=navbar&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=tile_index_1

Humble Bundle

Humble Conquer COVID-19 Bundle

100% of this bundle’s proceeds go to support organizations responding to COVID-19. Learn more on the Humble Bundle website!

fresh charm Apr 1, 2020, 4:12 PM

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oh

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thanks

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 4:45 PM

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any good VR games that arnt too pricey... just picked up my first headset and all i have is the lab and beat saber

hybrid merlin Apr 1, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Alyx

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all day

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absolutely fun as helll

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if you dont wanna spend that much, VRChat is great for that social fix, Superhot VR is really good too.

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Boneworks is also a good one

autumn tangle Apr 1, 2020, 4:59 PM

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alyx is expensive

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60$

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partial life alex

sand swan Apr 1, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Pavlov can be fun if you're looking for multiplayer

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 5:01 PM

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are there server in pavlov? or solo options?

sand swan Apr 1, 2020, 5:12 PM

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No dedicated servers, players host their own sessions. You can play with bots I guess. There is also a lot of custom content on the steam workshop for it

hybrid thorn Apr 1, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Alyx was insane, worth $60.00

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By far the BEST VR experience I ever had since I bought VR (Rift S) <--- not even the index and it was amazing.

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Any BS players? eyesshaking

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competitive that is KEK

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 5:52 PM

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i managed to get the odyssey+ for 300 and its fine

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wanted a quest but under the current situation.. thats not going to happen

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 5:55 PM

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odyssey+ for 300?

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dollars?

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 5:57 PM

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yeah

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:00 PM

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damn theyre pretty high price over in the states

haughty thistle Apr 1, 2020, 6:02 PM

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The Quest is not as suitable for PCVR as the Odyssey

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:02 PM

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i still wouldnt call the odyssey suitable KEK

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tracking on wmr compared to other alternatives such as the rift s are far off

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 6:06 PM

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well everything was out of stock except this so :/

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:06 PM

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imho, i wouldve waited if i were you

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even if they were out of stock, dont sell yourself short in vr

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having a great vr experience is the reason why people enjoy it so much

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 6:07 PM

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well i wasnt about to drop 700+ for something im mildly interested in

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:07 PM

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a rift s is 400

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pogstare

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 6:08 PM

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not right now

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:08 PM

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hence why i said wait

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 6:08 PM

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few months?

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:08 PM

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yeah

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 6:08 PM

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nah

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:08 PM

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id rather wait to have an amazing experience then an okay one with bad tracking

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 6:08 PM

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the tracking isnt bad

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:08 PM

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for example if i had picked up a wmr hmd i wouldnt be able to do anything in beat saber i do now

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let me give you an example

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at the moment out of the top 50 players in the uk right now

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one of those uses a wmr headset

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the rest of them are on cv1, rift s, vive or index, with 1 or 2 on quest with link

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the tracking literally cannot keep up with the stuff thats done

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 6:09 PM

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clearly.. it can

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:10 PM

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uhm

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with 1 person out of 49 doing it

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no not really

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its okay for games like alyx

haughty thistle Apr 1, 2020, 6:10 PM

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WMR Tracking is miles ahead of the HTC Cosmos tracking

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:10 PM

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yeah no one uses cosmos thats awful OmegaLUL

haughty thistle Apr 1, 2020, 6:10 PM

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It's not as good as the new Oculus Tracking, but it is at least usable

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:11 PM

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like dont get me wrong, for 90% of experiences youll be perfectly fine with wmr, but anything remotely fast it tends to chug a bit

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hence why none of us use it in beat saber

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because its tracking literally cannot keep up to speed

haughty thistle Apr 1, 2020, 6:14 PM

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I used to play Beat Saber on a WMR headset. As long as you stay below Ex+ in terms of difficulty it's absolutely fine. It's only once you reach Ex+ when you start to notice anything. And like you said, it all depends on speed. anything humanly playable should be managable on WMR (I'm not talking about those crazy 7+ start difficulty ranked once, the ones you can actually have fun playing)

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 6:15 PM

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^

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and thats all i need

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:15 PM

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tbf

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if thats all you need, youll be fine

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but for me personally doing 11/12 star maps i couldnt do anything of the sort on wmr

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 6:19 PM

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so question.... is there replayability for alyx? or is it like a normal single player game but in VR

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:20 PM

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I've only played 4 hours, but as there are different routes id say theres a bit of replayability.

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plus the amount of immersion

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 6:21 PM

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i have seen the first 20ish minutes and the immersion does look pretty great but i am finding it hard to justify the whole $60 pricetag for a couple of hours of gameplay

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:22 PM

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its about 45 dollars iirc? and its 9 hours overall. Im currently gamesharing from a friend, but i'd totally pay the price tag if i did buy it

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 6:23 PM

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its $60 in the states

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:23 PM

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legit?

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 6:23 PM

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mmhm

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:23 PM

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its 46 over here in the uk

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oof

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 6:23 PM

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📎 unknown.png

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Monka

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 6:24 PM

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reason i bought beat saber was because its replayable and i can play with people that come over

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:25 PM

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same for me originally but as soon as i got into it competitively that changed lmfao

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 6:27 PM

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got other games to worry about so dont think thats going to be me lol

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:27 PM

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fair enough KEK

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 6:28 PM

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but those reasons justified a $30 pricetag... not a $60 one

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what about shooter games? other that pavlov

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:36 PM

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boneworks is probably what your looking for

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half the price, shooter too with awesome physics

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 6:40 PM

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i think thats exactly what im looking for.. thanks]

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 6:49 PM

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No worries!

deep terrace Apr 1, 2020, 8:17 PM

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wait, you just spent god knows how much on a headset and you wont even cough up 60 bucks to valve for the new halflife?!?? its bound to go on sale again soon anyways

flat monolith Apr 1, 2020, 8:53 PM

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@deep terrace youre saying it like vr is incredibly expensive

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he was justifying getting it for the money, he has the money just doesnt know if he wants to spend that much for it

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vr on the cheap end is 400 quid for a headset

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and a system to run it is about 600

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 9:21 PM

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yeah i have the money.. but there are other things id rather spend it on that is of better value

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id probably get it if i really really want it or its on sale probably wont be tbh

sand swan Apr 1, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Half lyfe alyx is the best vr experience out there. It is only 10-12 hours long though

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 9:43 PM

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thats kinda my issue with it.. it will most likely be a one and done type of game

sand swan Apr 1, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Yeah but it's an experience worth having. Like seeing a really good movie. I'd choose alyx over most other vr games, even though they may get me a lot more hours of playtime, but that's my opinion.

lean viper Apr 1, 2020, 9:50 PM

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might get..... just want to get some other things first

sand swan Apr 1, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Yeah it'll probably be on sale at some point anyway

violet apex Apr 1, 2020, 11:10 PM

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vr in my opinion becomes worth it when you have played most genres of games out there on the monitor and want to experience something new

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and if you have the money for the setup and HMD, it is totally worth it for a literal out of world experience, in your living room or wherever your PC be living

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it's just a shame how much even the starting price HMDs are, but when it becomes mainstream, the price will slowly drop down

dire wind Apr 1, 2020, 11:35 PM

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yeah the 128GB quest is back in stock so im pretty sure the rift s will be back soon

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i saw it was available for a few minutes

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so hopefully it will be back soon

spring mantle Apr 2, 2020, 9:56 AM

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I am typing from my quest

sullen linden Apr 2, 2020, 9:57 AM

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saem

spring mantle Apr 2, 2020, 9:57 AM

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This is hard

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No I mea. I'm using passthrought

keen tartan Apr 2, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Opinions on that one Samsung unit, HMD Odyssey I believe it's called?

haughty thistle Apr 2, 2020, 1:42 PM

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A good headset, but not as good as a Rift S. THe main downfall of the Samsung Odyssey is it's WMR tracking. The displays also look a little soft I heard

keen tartan Apr 2, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Rift S isn't going to happen for me, for a fair number of reasons.

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The Facebook connection is too much for me to play with that much money.

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Odyssey got my attention because it's apparently OLED rather than LCD, which sounds particularly amazing for VR, but none of my buds want to touch WMR for obvious reasons, so I haven't had any opportunity to try any of those headsets.

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Despite people shaking their heads at it...I gotta say, Vive Cosmos is looking more and more attractive to me.

sullen linden Apr 2, 2020, 2:33 PM

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@keen tartan cosmos has many issues

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I use the rift s. And i see where you're coming from with the facebook connection

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But i got mine for free

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So i cant complain

keen tartan Apr 2, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Well, yeah, if that's in the equation, then Facebook is out.

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But I'm not getting handouts any time soon.

sullen linden Apr 2, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Fair

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But Tbh i got 2 in the house and one hasn't even been opened

haughty thistle Apr 2, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Here's a pro tip:
Buy the Rift S, set up a seperate Oculus account WITHOUT FB, use SteamVR

sullen linden Apr 2, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Both i got for free..

haughty thistle Apr 2, 2020, 2:39 PM

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But yeah:
All of the HTC headsets (Cosmos Elite, -Play, -Regular, Vive Pro) are overpriced for what you get. It#s really either Oculus (Rift S, Quest), Samsung Odyssey with it's slightly blurry screens and slightly worse tracking or the Index

keen tartan Apr 2, 2020, 2:40 PM

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That's not the Facebook connection I'm talking about.

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It's the fact that they're in charge of the company.

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That's...I'm sorry, that's a 100% deal-breaker for me.

haughty thistle Apr 2, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Honestly, I hate FB so much I hope they would go bankrupt myself, yet I own an Oculus Quest, since it's the only way I would be able to play VR in absence of my Gaming Rig

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The Quest binds you even more to FB than you would expect. First there's the fact that any kind of MP requires an FB account to be connected, all purchases have to be through the Oculus store which is just feeding money directly into FBs pocket, you're at their mercy for software updates and repairs, etc. etc.

keen tartan Apr 2, 2020, 2:43 PM

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So yeah, that ain't happening for me.

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I don't even have a Facebook account.

haughty thistle Apr 2, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Me neither

keen tartan Apr 2, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Been against them since 2006, hasn't changed since.

haughty thistle Apr 2, 2020, 2:44 PM

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I have an Index as my main Headset and am perfectly fine with it (even though the constant breaking of the controllers is an annoyance, they're definetly not made out of Nintendium)

keen tartan Apr 2, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Index is what I'd get in a heartbeat if I wasn't trying to save for far more expensive things.

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I dunno, if I can pick up a Cosmos for $400 I'll be okay with myself.

haughty thistle Apr 2, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Ohhh.... the only Cosmos that HTC would ever sell for that price would be the Play, which'll have even worse tracking than the Regular Cosmos. And on that Tracking already is way worse than WMR

keen tartan Apr 2, 2020, 2:47 PM

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I mean on eBay.

haughty thistle Apr 2, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Mhm... If you're lucky. I'd still advise against it

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Rather get a used OG Vive and upgrade from there

keen tartan Apr 2, 2020, 2:53 PM

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That was the original plan, but they're spiking in price for reasons I can't understand.

haughty thistle Apr 2, 2020, 3:25 PM

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People wanna get it as a cheap way into the SteamVR eco-system. The prices went up with the announcement of HLA

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But honestly, if you can find one for around 400$ it's still a good deal, if you don't want to give FB money

spring mantle Apr 2, 2020, 4:32 PM

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A quest with a cable.

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That's it

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They are in stock right?

heady radish Apr 2, 2020, 4:33 PM

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wat

haughty thistle Apr 2, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Quest Link is not and will never be as good as a native PCVR headset

heady radish Apr 2, 2020, 4:33 PM

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i thought the whole point of the quest was that it didn't need a cable

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or i'm just uneducated

spring mantle Apr 2, 2020, 4:34 PM

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It's getting better

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The link

haughty thistle Apr 2, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Yeah, but you can use the Quest as a PCVR headset, by plugging it in with a high-quality USB 3 to Typ C cable

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I have a Quest with Link, and while being better than the initial release, the problem lies in the way the signal is transfered. It is physically not possible to fit as much data over a single USB 3.0 connection that is transferred on a traditional PCVR headset. DisplayPort 1.2 (which is what the Index for example is using) has a transferspeed of 17.28Gbit/s whereas USB 3.0 tops out at about 5Gbit/s. And that has to transfer tracking data as well

hexed notch Apr 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

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to fit that data down it has to severely compress it
right now its going to .15gbit
which is very extremely severe
using a very terrible protocol.
its also a slow protocol to process
adding something in the 10 ms of just raw processing delays

gentle coral Apr 3, 2020, 8:44 AM

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The Vive Cosmos Elite actually looks like quite the ok direct replacement for the OG Vive. But having the index be only 100 dollars more while having lighthouse 2.0 and the index controllers, makes it somewhat of a lower value to price (at 699 it would be a good option). Oh and it also is the same price as the Vive Pro Starter kit (what the heck HTC, competing against yourself is stupid) .

The only unique headsets of any value from HTC right now are the Vive Pro Eye (in the ro market it has a lot of value), and the Vive Focus Plus (only competition to Quest, and has no room limitations and great AR passthrough, bt is quite expensive, and just as locked down as Quest).

I really wish the Quest used the proper Displayport over USB type C, which would not have nearly the same issues their borked custom solution has. (they are using a partial spec of the Displayport over type C, such that it works over a much larger set of USB ports). If it followed the true spec you could only run it off USB 3.2 2x1 10Gb (used to be USB 3.1 Gen 2 10Gb ) type C ports with full displayport alternate mode.

Here is the actual way DisplayPort over USB type C works, when properly implemented
https://www.anandtech.com/show/8558/displayport-alternate-mode-for-usb-typec-announced

"Oculus by Facebook" shot themselves in the foot by trying to do everything themselves.

DisplayPort Alternate Mode for USB Type-C Announced - Video, Power,...

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The Valve Index display board was actually originally designed for the Displayport over type C spec. (I know who designed the original boards (it was not Valve)). Their current boards actually are almost identical except they use a proprietary connector (OCulink connector), with a custom pinout (if I remember correctly). This is why Index runs DP 1.2 with probably 3 lanes for DP, and 1 lane for USB (probably USB 3.2 1x1).

This means that if "Oculus by Facebook" actually followed the Spec correctly, Quest would have the same connection that the index has and could almost run as such. (but that would make the Rift S worthless as a headset).

The VirtualLink port on Nivida cards are a slight modification of the standard, it replaces the USB 2.0 compatability section with USB 3.2 1x2 or USB 2x1 2x1 section (this allows for full DP 1.4, and 10GB USB and 27 watts of power).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirtualLink
Sadly it looks like VirtualLink is dead tell some problems get worked out with stability.
https://virtualrealitytimes.com/2019/08/05/valve-has-cancelled-the-virtuallink-vr-connection-standard-for-valve-index/

VirtualLink

VirtualLink is a proposed USB-C alternate mode that allows the power, video, and data required to power virtual reality headsets to be delivered over a single USB-C cable and connector instead of set of three different cables as it was in older headsets. The standard is suppor...

Virtual Reality Times

Sam Ochanji

Valve Has Cancelled the VirtualLink VR Connection Standard for Valv...

Last year seemed like a very progressive time for the industry when many of the

hexed notch Apr 4, 2020, 4:21 AM

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i just want that stinking cable

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it apparently worked fine with nvidia's desktop implementation

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and thats what i want it for

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pls

sullen linden Apr 4, 2020, 9:59 AM

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should I buy a Valve Index? or find a cheaper Steam-compatible headset and buy the index gloves later

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Depends on if you're willing to invest 1k on it

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And the controllers are not gloves

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But in my opinion the index was worth it

hexed notch Apr 4, 2020, 10:34 AM

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same

haughty thistle Apr 4, 2020, 12:38 PM

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^

pale orbit Apr 4, 2020, 3:08 PM

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by the time they have the index in stock it may well be when this whole virus thing is over with, which could be 6+ months at best, 18 months at worst

sullen linden Apr 4, 2020, 7:22 PM

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what would be a good cheaper vr headset that would be compatible with the index controllers?

hexed notch Apr 4, 2020, 8:11 PM

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vive

gentle coral Apr 4, 2020, 9:26 PM

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The currently available vive is not cheaper once you buy the index controllers

hexed notch Apr 4, 2020, 11:58 PM

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yes

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but currently available index doesnt exist

haughty thistle Apr 5, 2020, 12:25 AM

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If you can find a used OG Vive for a good price, that is the way to go. Other than that, any alternatives are more pricy (Vive Cosmos Elite 900$ + 300$ for Index controllers, Pimax >1300$)

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Why you people calling them index gloves lol

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 5:53 AM

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What are the best VR for the price currently?

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Oculus Rift S?

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Also would like to be able to use hand tracking

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 7:27 AM

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@jagged scarab Just to make sure do you mean hand or finger tracking?

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Because all the common pc vr headsets have controllers for hand tracking

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:18 AM

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finger tracking I guess.

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precise enough for the ASL type of talk @sullen linden

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:19 AM

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oh

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not gonna happen for a few years

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:19 AM

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thonk

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what's the diff between finger and hand tracking?

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:19 AM

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uh

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so like joystick vs mouse?

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:20 AM

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yeah...

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:20 AM

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finger tracking = you can waggle your fingers individually by waggling your fingers
hand tracking = you wiggle your fingers by pressing a button

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:20 AM

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thonk

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:21 AM

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but

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:21 AM

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I thought hand tracking could be done via Oculus quest

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without the controller

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:21 AM

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thats hand tracking

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:21 AM

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Well yes

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:21 AM

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as well Rift S

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:21 AM

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and it kinda works?

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but also not good enough for sign language

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:21 AM

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at some point

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:21 AM

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and its not useable in games

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cause games you need to be able to do things?

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like move and stuff

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:21 AM

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VRChat actually has a community for that

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They made up an VR specific sign language

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:22 AM

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Yeah but it's more like its own invention of signs with what they have?

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^

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:22 AM

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its not asl tho

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or whatever everyone else in the world uses

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:22 AM

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Well, it's based on ASL

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:22 AM

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Yeah because the technology isn't quite there yet

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:22 AM

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just working around the drawbacks

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:23 AM

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the drawbacks being not being able to move fingers from side to side

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:23 AM

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Tho that's a bummer vrchat doesn't support hand tracking just yet 😦

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:23 AM

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They have regular vr users and index users separately

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:23 AM

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tho if you just need to do asl, 1-2 versions down the road of the finger tracking it should be possible

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:24 AM

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The problem with the quest tracking would be how do you move in game etc.

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:24 AM

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Well, wouldn't you be able to just let it go for a bit?

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:24 AM

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Well yeah but it would be tedious

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:24 AM

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while hanging from your wrist

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:24 AM

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yea thats not a solution thats just avoiding the problem

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:25 AM

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I can see myself just not moving around while talking

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:25 AM

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And I don't know if the quest even supports switching that quick

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:25 AM

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It takes a second I think

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Welp if that's the case then thonk

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:26 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWjMacQnWJo

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sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:26 AM

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Vrchat has pretty bad finger tracking even on the index

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:27 AM

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sobbing rip

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:27 AM

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Like it becomes inaccurate real quick and you need to restart the controllers

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:27 AM

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Well, that's out of the option then.

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Quest or Rift S

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latency-wise

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:27 AM

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I haven't come across the same problem in any other game that utilizes them

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:28 AM

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quest is out of the question if you care about latency

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:28 AM

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Thought so. OMEGALUL

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:29 AM

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actually holy moly

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the new updates for the rift hand tracking are actually downright amazing

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wish you could play games with it tho

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hmm

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idea

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instead of using a pad to sense where your fingers are

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what about using a little camera on the controller

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:31 AM

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thonk

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wym

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the camera part

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:31 AM

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index uses touch sensors to find your fingers

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instead the knuckles ev4 could use cameras

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:32 AM

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I thought they are proximity

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:32 AM

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proximity?

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its a big touch pad

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:32 AM

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I can move my fingers without them touching the controller

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:32 AM

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you cant

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:32 AM

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Yes you can

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:32 AM

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the touchpad goes all the way around

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:33 AM

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It doesn't tho

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:33 AM

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most of the way around

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far enough to touch the base of every finger

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:33 AM

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👀

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Mind sending me links to those

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:34 AM

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those?

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:34 AM

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📎 20200405_113432.jpg 📎 20200405_113411.jpg

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Not quite

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:35 AM

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look in vr

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:36 AM

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oh that

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👀

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Interesting

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:36 AM

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Well you can move the index finger without it touching the trigger too

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:36 AM

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Don't you need the camera setups around the room tho

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:36 AM

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not cameras

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yea

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:36 AM

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Index doesn't use cameras

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:36 AM

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the index finger has proximity

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:37 AM

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Wait, can you use oculus rift s and that together?

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:37 AM

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Just two base stations that basically shoot lasers everywhere to track everything

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:37 AM

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the lighthouses are strobed leds with some fancy math to make them triangulate your things

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:39 AM

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You may be able to use them together but it requires some tweaking and probably doesn't work as well

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:39 AM

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you can and it definetly doesnt

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and you cant do finger tracking

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:40 AM

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Hmm a friend of mine loses tracking if he puts his controllers near his headset

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But he also has a lot of weird problems with his steamvr so it might just be because of that

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:44 AM

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upload incoming

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📎 VID_20200405_014337.mp4

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when you are moving normally, it works just fine
but if you dont touch the tracking pad, it doesnt register

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:45 AM

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But have you tried to touch the controller with just your finger tips?

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:45 AM

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wdym

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:46 AM

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Like instead of wrapping them around just kinda put your finger on it

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Or use your other hand

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:46 AM

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thats extremely hard to do

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oh

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wel

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30 secs

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:46 AM

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thonk

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:46 AM

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yea

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your other hand can trigger it

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but

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well

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i have 2 hands

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i cant take video too

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:47 AM

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KEKW

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take it with your feet

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ez

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:47 AM

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hmm

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:47 AM

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I'm kidding

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:47 AM

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idea

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:47 AM

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.

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👀

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:47 AM

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I've done it with my other hand and it doesn't need to touch the controller

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:48 AM

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ngl vive kinda expensive

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😩

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:48 AM

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Which one

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:48 AM

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📎 VID_20200405_014824.mp4

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:48 AM

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wait, my bad.

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:48 AM

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I mean they're all overpriced but yeah

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:49 AM

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I was looking at wrong vive

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OMEGALUL

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looked at $1k one

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but there's 500 one

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:49 AM

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it doesnt have to touch the pad
but that is how capacitive sensors work

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it has to be extremely close

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:49 AM

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I swear mine works just like the trigger

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:49 AM

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nap

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well

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:49 AM

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that's hella neat tho

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:50 AM

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trigger might be capacitive too

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idk

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:50 AM

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Wait do you have newer index or the old one?

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:50 AM

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but i wouldnt expect so

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the consumer indexes are all the same

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:50 AM

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No they fixed the controllers

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:50 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QKy3nxqLI8

YouTube

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hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:50 AM

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firmware

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:50 AM

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So no more joystick problems

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:51 AM

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joystick problems were extremely rare

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:51 AM

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👀

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:51 AM

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anyways

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:51 AM

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https://youtu.be/-vk7ADCW-Do

YouTube

Tyriel Wood

Valve Fixed The Index's Biggest Problem!?

Despite the fact of being the most expensive and most premium virtual reality headset on the market, even the Valve Index had a problem. Unfortunately, the company never did anything particular about it, until now!
Let's see it together in this video how Valve fixed the index...

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jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:51 AM

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ngl i'm tempted to just buy oculus rift s and just buy index controller later

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:52 AM

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@jagged scarab That's the old rift in the video

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But probably works with the S too

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:52 AM

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ye imma do a bit more research on this

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but good to know it works with Rift

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and i'm thinking of the same with S 99%

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:52 AM

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You do need to buy the base stations too

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:53 AM

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Base stations?

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:53 AM

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Yeah the ones that index uses for tracking

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:53 AM

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Oh the cameras

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:53 AM

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Not cameras

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:53 AM

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lucario_sweat

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the uhhh

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:53 AM

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lighthouses

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:53 AM

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square thingy you put on the corner of the room?

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:53 AM

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yes

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:53 AM

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📎 unknown.png

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:54 AM

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I always thought it was the cameras type of thing. OMEGALUL

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:54 AM

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You could probably just get the 1.0 base stations for cheaper

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:54 AM

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rip tho, I was hoping for hassle-free VR setup FeelsBadMan

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:55 AM

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oh yea thats called a bodge peety
they just added more material to the thumbstick

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the electronics and other hardware is still the same

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:56 AM

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Questions, were the VR inventory always this low or because of the virus that people are buying'em out?

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:56 AM

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yes

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:56 AM

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and price gouging it elsewhere

hexed notch Apr 5, 2020, 8:56 AM

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the moment alyx was announced, they all vanished

sullen linden Apr 5, 2020, 8:56 AM

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HL Alyx probably boosted sales too

jagged scarab Apr 5, 2020, 8:56 AM

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OMEGALUL