#virtual-reality | Linus Tech Tips | Page 62

haughty thistle Dec 22, 2019, 6:49 PM

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@sweet crag I would only suggest you go for a Rift CV1 is if you really need to outside-in tracking or hate to use in-ear headphones. Otherwise, go for the Rift S

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 6:49 PM

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the cv1 is like

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800$ on amazon

haughty thistle Dec 22, 2019, 6:50 PM

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I really find it funny how you can still buy the Index through Big Picture xD

sweet crag Dec 22, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Really, guess it's the rift s then

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 6:50 PM

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yes

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should i do it

haughty thistle Dec 22, 2019, 6:50 PM

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I mean, try. What else can Valve do than to cancel your order?

hexed notch Dec 22, 2019, 6:50 PM

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What's the reason it wouldn't work?

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 6:50 PM

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idk

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its out of stock

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would they refund me if they're like

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no

haughty thistle Dec 22, 2019, 6:51 PM

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They need to

hexed notch Dec 22, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Eh

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Or they count it as a back order?

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 6:51 PM

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probably better to be patient

sullen linden Dec 22, 2019, 6:52 PM

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yep

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 6:52 PM

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wait

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if you can buy a index throught bp

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why not buy it through svr 😏

haughty thistle Dec 22, 2019, 6:52 PM

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I was thinking about getting a third Lighthouse to fix a number of blind spots in my play area, but the only 2.0 lighthouses that are available are the overpriced Vive Pro ones. The index lighthouses are sold out 😭

sweet crag Dec 22, 2019, 6:52 PM

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I have a ipd of about 55 but rift s has minimum of 60 does it make a difference

haughty thistle Dec 22, 2019, 6:54 PM

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The Rift S has a fixed IPD of 64. If you have an IPD of 55, I'd suggest you go for a headset that can get closer to that IPD, like the Oculus Quest or the Index

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Sidenote: do not get a Vive Cosmos. it's Tracking sucks

sweet crag Dec 22, 2019, 6:55 PM

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I thought it had a software controlled ipd

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 6:56 PM

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or pre owned vive

haughty thistle Dec 22, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Yeah, it has software to render the image in a way that looks more natural to you, but the lenses have a fixed IPD of 64, which is way too far off from your actual IPD and the experience won't be that great from what I heard. I honestly can't tell since my IPD is about 67 ^^"

sweet crag Dec 22, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Thanks

sullen linden Dec 22, 2019, 6:57 PM

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i like the 1.0 vive stuff quite nickey.

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*niceley

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 6:57 PM

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nickey

sweet crag Dec 22, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Can u use the quest with a pc

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 6:57 PM

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✔️

sullen linden Dec 22, 2019, 6:57 PM

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YES

haughty thistle Dec 22, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Yep with an additional USB cable that meets Oculus' requirements

sweet crag Dec 22, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Oh cool can it use all the normal games from steam vr

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 6:58 PM

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or the (totally not oculink) oculus link cable

sullen linden Dec 22, 2019, 6:59 PM

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that is oculink boi

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 6:59 PM

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hold on

haughty thistle Dec 22, 2019, 7:00 PM

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You can play all SteamVR games with a Quest. The tracking is a little bit worse than on the Rift S and the Visual fedality also doesn#t the one on native PCVR headsets, but with your IPD it's a lot better to go with the Quest than to go with the Rift S

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 7:00 PM

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sweet crag Dec 22, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Jesus that's an expensive cable

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 7:01 PM

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well

sweet crag Dec 22, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Is there a cheaper alternative

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 7:01 PM

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for the same length? no

haughty thistle Dec 22, 2019, 7:01 PM

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There are thrid Party options out there ,but they are generally not really available rn xD

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 7:01 PM

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also

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its optical

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lazors = expensive

sweet crag Dec 22, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Oh I didn't realize it used optics

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 7:02 PM

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yea

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all headset cables that use a display link end connector

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are optical

haughty thistle Dec 22, 2019, 7:02 PM

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The reason the data is transmitted optically in those cables is, so that they can be longer, more flexible and have less interference

sweet crag Dec 22, 2019, 7:03 PM

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I didn't realize bc the only headset I used was the original vive

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 7:03 PM

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the 3in1 cable is optical

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the 3gluedtogethersoitmakes1 is not

haughty thistle Dec 22, 2019, 7:09 PM

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This is a general purpose 5m HDMI cable. I'm really surprised that HTC managed to get away with way less isolation on their "3tapedtogether" cable, which is also 5m...

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But this is really the reason why pretty much all VR tethers are optical nowadays

sweet crag Dec 22, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Is the controller for the quest good

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 7:21 PM

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not on index controllers level

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but better than vive wands

sullen linden Dec 22, 2019, 7:23 PM

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vive wands are still kinda good, i think the og vive is the pre pre vive vive headset that was only available to developers.

sweet crag Dec 22, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Is it true it includes only one controller

sullen linden Dec 22, 2019, 7:26 PM

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and i can show an image of the one i mean

haughty thistle Dec 22, 2019, 7:26 PM

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I think the Quest Controllers are pretty good. Maybe their handles are a little short, but that's all. The Quest comes, like the Rift S, with two hand controllers. one for each hand

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Obvoiusly the Index controllers are better, but they also cost more than half the price the Rift S + Controllers

sweet crag Dec 22, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Oh ok someone told me it only includes one controller

haughty thistle Dec 22, 2019, 7:28 PM

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The Oculus Go only comes with one. But the Oculus Go isn't really VR, as it is more like a stereo video player

sweet crag Dec 22, 2019, 7:29 PM

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K

sullen linden Dec 22, 2019, 7:31 PM

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this is the version of vive i really want https://utype.wordpress.com/2015/11/25/htc-vive-dev-kit-unboxing/

UTYPEDESIGN

utype

HTC Vive Dev Kit Unboxing

Christmas came early, received the HTC Vive dev kit!

haughty thistle Dec 22, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Oh, the Vive Dev kit which was only available to first party developers?

sweet crag Dec 22, 2019, 7:32 PM

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I would love that

sullen linden Dec 22, 2019, 7:35 PM

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and the headset is so light on your head that you can forget its there, except the battery life sucks on the controllers.

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and yes @haughty thistle

haughty thistle Dec 22, 2019, 7:37 PM

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The Index is quite a heavy headset, but the weight is very well distributed, and I don't feel exhausted after having it on my head for longer periods of time

sullen linden Dec 22, 2019, 7:37 PM

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i like the vive as it is now yet after a while the controllers get low

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i wish there was a baterryless version of the vive controllers

haughty thistle Dec 22, 2019, 7:39 PM

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That makes me worry about the Index controllers. They are really nice and their 8h of betterylife is good too, but what if the battery ever starts to die 😖

sullen linden Dec 22, 2019, 7:39 PM

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it would die at some point i must say

autumn tangle Dec 22, 2019, 8:30 PM

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you're not replacing them

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probably

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idk

sullen linden Dec 22, 2019, 8:59 PM

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yeah probably would most likely crack the controller open and replace the battery back

void grove Dec 23, 2019, 1:13 AM

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wait, rift s replacement cables are $80. danWTF

haughty thistle Dec 23, 2019, 1:15 AM

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I mean, most VR cables these days are using optical transmission for data, making the actual cables quite expensive if you think about it

void grove Dec 23, 2019, 1:15 AM

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thanking

sullen linden Dec 23, 2019, 1:47 AM

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well yet the htc vive cables cost less because they arent optical (i think)

hexed notch Dec 23, 2019, 6:40 AM

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Vive, cv1, index are good old copper

autumn tangle Dec 23, 2019, 12:28 PM

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original vive*

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the new 3in1 version is optical

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if i'm correct

sweet crag Dec 23, 2019, 12:34 PM

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Sorry wrong server

autumn tangle Dec 23, 2019, 1:09 PM

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steam vr be like

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haughty thistle Dec 23, 2019, 1:16 PM

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I'm prettyy sure the Index is optical too, since the cable is way too flexible to be just copper. I can be wrong however

autumn tangle Dec 23, 2019, 1:21 PM

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it is

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any displaylink cables are optical

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even wmr

sullen linden Dec 23, 2019, 1:33 PM

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dont forget vive pro!

hexed notch Dec 23, 2019, 2:31 PM

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There is no chance it is optical, it is gigantic

haughty thistle Dec 23, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Just because a VR-headset is using DP doesn't necessarily mean it's optical for the data-lines. You can tell an optical cable apart from a copper cable, by how flexible it is. An optical cable is incredibly flexible, way more so than a multi-strand copper cable. The Lenovo Explorer for example is using a copper cable, because during the two months I had owned one, the cable never lost all of it's kinks and curves from the way it was in it's box. And I have a sneaking suspicion, that the cable that comes default on the Rift S is copper as well, and the replacement one might be more flexible. Now I didn't own a Rift S for quite as much time, but even on that one the cable never lost all of it's rotations, and wouldn't really let me either. The Index on the other hand is very flexible and lost it's curved nature after just a week

void grove Dec 23, 2019, 3:17 PM

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danWTF

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haughty thistle Dec 23, 2019, 3:28 PM

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o.O

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What does one have to do, to destroy a touch controller like that?!

void grove Dec 23, 2019, 3:55 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

green crypt Dec 23, 2019, 4:01 PM

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that is bad wmr controlers don't break like that even

void grove Dec 23, 2019, 4:09 PM

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THONK

green crypt Dec 23, 2019, 4:39 PM

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what did they hit then to to break it like that

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i guess a metal beam that they hit with the controller

void grove Dec 23, 2019, 4:44 PM

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a concrete wall? :V

green crypt Dec 23, 2019, 4:46 PM

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on a corner then as it looks like it hit something on an edge as a normal hit to a wall shouldn't break a controller

autumn tangle Dec 23, 2019, 4:57 PM

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t h e l i m i t

young marten Dec 23, 2019, 5:14 PM

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SaberDance

haughty thistle Dec 23, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Beat Saber 'ey? I guess I need to be more careful in the future than xD

autumn tangle Dec 23, 2019, 6:03 PM

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wait

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you cant use oculus headsets for vr arcades

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i knew some people who ran one

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they said that vive was the only choice

haughty thistle Dec 23, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Could be... idk however

hexed notch Dec 23, 2019, 7:36 PM

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Don't see why you couldnt

sullen linden Dec 23, 2019, 7:38 PM

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one remote included

young marten Dec 23, 2019, 7:45 PM

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You would have to have the rift s in well a lit room right?

sullen linden Dec 23, 2019, 7:45 PM

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yes

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wich is an appeal of the vive wich i have successfully used in the dark before

haughty thistle Dec 23, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Another benefit of any SteamVR tracked headset is that you can use multiple headsets with only two base stations. Their tracking area will get smaller, yes, but you don't have to worry about visually separating the different booths from one another

sullen linden Dec 23, 2019, 7:49 PM

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yep

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with 2.0 you can do 4 vr sets /set of booths

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(with wireless obviously)

haughty thistle Dec 23, 2019, 7:51 PM

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Even with 1.0 you can theoretically use as many headsets you can fit into the tracking area, as long as one headset does not occlude another one

trim kiln Dec 23, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Does someone from Germany got a working Oculus Link kabel thats still in stock somewhere? All kabels i tried from Amazon which had reviews saying that they worked didnt work for me 😅 🙈 and yes my ports are working i got a 70cm long one from my "Lumia 950" (jokes aside) thats working flawless

haughty thistle Dec 23, 2019, 10:43 PM

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The thing with Oculus Link is, that it is very picky in terms of what cables do work. It's not just the Type-C cables where it's picky, but also with extensions...
I had an article which went into much detail on what you can buy in germany to get it running. Let me get it real quick...

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They went into great detail here: https://mixed.de/oculus-link-test/
I don't own a Quest, so I can neither confirm, nor deny their experience. But what I can say is that in some cases the interference from neighboring USB cables can cause a USB-Signal to degrade worse enough to no longer work for VR, so make sure you have nothing else around the cable. favorably on one of the front USB-Ports

News zu VR, AR und KI | MIXED.de

Benjamin Danneberg

Oculus Link Test: PC-VR für Oculus Quest per USB-Kabel | MIXED

Oculus Link soll die Vorteile von autarker und PC-basierter VR vereinen - mit nur einem USB-Kabel. Funktioniert das?

trim kiln Dec 23, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Thanks imma look into that👌 @haughty thistle

wise tree Dec 24, 2019, 12:07 PM

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I got my brother a 2070s for Christmas aand there goes all my money 🤣

sullen linden Dec 24, 2019, 3:20 PM

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i need an htc vive for cristmas and a crazy expensive computer 🙂

soft hound Dec 24, 2019, 4:07 PM

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It doesn't need to be crazy expensive to run a Vive, considering you'd be totally fine with an RX 580, and a Ryzen 5 ~~Unless you plan on playing games like Elite: Dangerous~~

haughty thistle Dec 24, 2019, 4:09 PM

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You can dial down the Quality settings for Elite and make it run well on pretty much every VR capable PC

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Just make sure you have dialed in those settings prior to running the game in VR

autumn tangle Dec 24, 2019, 4:25 PM

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im running pretty much min gpu specs

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works totally fine

soft hound Dec 24, 2019, 4:33 PM

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My 1060 3GB which I used to have really did not like entering starports, framerate would drop below 30 in VR on low settings

autumn tangle Dec 24, 2019, 4:35 PM

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i use 6gb

haughty thistle Dec 24, 2019, 4:35 PM

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We're talking about VR capable machines here. 3GB VRAM is too little for VR

autumn tangle Dec 24, 2019, 4:36 PM

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yet stupid little aurfvi is like

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no

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but sometimes its like yes

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so it says no rn

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hexed notch Dec 24, 2019, 5:10 PM

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I ran with a 1060 and it's not great

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(boneworks)

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But it works fine in everything else I care about (virtual desktop)

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Actually thinking of I haven't tried pistol whip

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What 6 core?

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8700k should compensate

sullen linden Dec 24, 2019, 5:53 PM

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it just has 6 cores

autumn tangle Dec 24, 2019, 6:26 PM

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oh

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i have a 9600k

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@hexed notch

hexed notch Dec 24, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Not sure

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Haven't tried a sub 8 thread cpu

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Might work?

autumn tangle Dec 24, 2019, 6:31 PM

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hold on

hexed notch Dec 24, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Wouldn't risk it with just the 1060

autumn tangle Dec 24, 2019, 6:32 PM

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6 threads

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i dont have a valve index

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but i'm buying the controllers

hexed notch Dec 24, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Have a Vive?

autumn tangle Dec 24, 2019, 6:32 PM

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to play boneworks at full potential

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yes-ish

hexed notch Dec 24, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Controllers doesn't matter

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Headset matters

autumn tangle Dec 24, 2019, 6:33 PM

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i know

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and before i get the headset

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im going to get a better graphics card

hexed notch Dec 24, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Then you are good probably

autumn tangle Dec 24, 2019, 6:36 PM

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either used 1070/1080 or 2060 super

hexed notch Dec 24, 2019, 7:33 PM

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👍 if you plan to get the headset tho I wouldnt

autumn tangle Dec 24, 2019, 7:48 PM

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wouldn't what? @hexed notch

hexed notch Dec 24, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Get that low of a gpu

autumn tangle Dec 24, 2019, 7:49 PM

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what gpu would i get

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i'd only run it at idk.. 120hz

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2060 super is a fancy 1070

hexed notch Dec 24, 2019, 8:20 PM

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5700xt, 2070s?

hexed notch Dec 24, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Index kinda wants a solid gpu

gloomy heath Dec 24, 2019, 8:37 PM

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u dont have to run an index at 120 hz

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it scales down to 90

hexed notch Dec 24, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Ya but also dual 1440p90

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It's a ton of power

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And the 120 and 144 are super nice

autumn tangle Dec 24, 2019, 9:04 PM

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they recommend a 1070

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i think that a 2060 =s a 1070

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also

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did you know

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that

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a 2070 super costs more money than a 2060?

hexed notch Dec 24, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Yea

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But my 2080ti doesn't hold solid 120

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So

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Yea

haughty thistle Dec 24, 2019, 10:57 PM

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My 1080Ti can only supply the Index with a solid 144 fps in Beat Saber and only barely manages that frame rate in the SteamVR home environment. So if you want to get an index I'd suggest something that is at least comparable to a 1080. If you are more after the other aspects of the Index (off-ear speakers, high pixel-density, the big FOV), you can surely go with a 1070 or comparable

willow crypt Dec 24, 2019, 11:34 PM

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can confirm 4t is not enough to play smoothly, just a word of warning

autumn tangle Dec 25, 2019, 12:02 AM

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@hexed notch but are you supersampling?

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@willow crypt 6c/6t

willow crypt Dec 25, 2019, 12:03 AM

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6600k only has 4c/4t

autumn tangle Dec 25, 2019, 12:12 AM

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9600k @willow crypt

willow crypt Dec 25, 2019, 12:21 AM

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fancy pants

surreal tide Dec 25, 2019, 3:30 AM

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Is there any way to disable Oculus home and run the rift straight from steam vr or is it all still patched?

hexed notch Dec 25, 2019, 7:40 AM

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@autumn tangle no, 100% scaling

simple island Dec 25, 2019, 8:48 AM

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Could a 1660 gtx ti run vr?

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Any games

gleaming grove Dec 25, 2019, 8:51 AM

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Yes @simple island Good

simple island Dec 25, 2019, 8:56 AM

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Thank u

autumn tangle Dec 25, 2019, 2:47 PM

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so uh

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got a pre-owned vive

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no mounting hardware

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how in the world am i mounting these

surreal tide Dec 25, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Super glue

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Cement

haughty thistle Dec 25, 2019, 2:57 PM

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You can use just any type of camera mount as long as it's stable enough. Or if you are willing to take a risk: You can just put them on tables. Tracking can cut out every now and then, but I never had any issues while I was waiting for my dad to be able to assist me

surreal tide Dec 25, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Bind the atoms to eachother

autumn tangle Dec 25, 2019, 2:58 PM

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im going to buy a camera mount

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maybe

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https://www.etsy.com/listing/634404523/htc-vive-wall-mount-kit-2-pack-for?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_c-electronics_and_accessories-video_games&utm_custom1=9a469110-a283-40ad-b240-5247acd0bb59&utm_content=go_1843970785_69216069985_346429262330_pla-353987697789_c__634404523&gclid=Cj0KCQiArozwBRDOARIsAHo2s7tRYPfsGFGSIHx4eNIRoSFbWyoka5Qhi4i8UVEITn5hw-oyIEP3lLoaAvULEALw_wcB

Etsy

HTC Vive Wall Mount Kit (2 Pack) for Lighthouse/Base Station- Elim...

HTC VIVE Lighthouse & Anchor NOT provided ⭐⭐⭐ These wall mounts will keep your walls free of drill holes! Each mount is attached to the wall by Command Strip (wall tape) and can still support the entire base station. Using Command Strips make it so that the mount is st...

haughty thistle Dec 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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As I said: you can place them on tables and you should be fine. Valve doesn't recommend this practice with the 1.0 Lighthouses, but I did it and it worked fine. Just make sure you don't stand in-between the lighthouses while they turn on

autumn tangle Dec 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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for now, i'll do table

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but i'll buy this above

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oh

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wait those aren't the mounts if im right

haughty thistle Dec 25, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Yep. those aren't the mounts

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On the picture they show the first-party ones and all that is included in this etsy thing is the white plate behind it

sullen linden Dec 25, 2019, 3:13 PM

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I just bought two 2m tall studio light stands and screwed the lighthouses on to those and placed them in opposite corners

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Out of the way and work perfectly without needing to drill into my walls

autumn tangle Dec 25, 2019, 4:04 PM

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i don't want ugly tripods

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I have made a terrible mistake.

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sullen linden Dec 25, 2019, 4:40 PM

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oof

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lol

haughty thistle Dec 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

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You know, I saw someone using these construction pillars. They are really sturdy, look not all that bad if bought new and you can place the lighthouses anywhere along the pole

autumn tangle Dec 25, 2019, 5:03 PM

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i have a base station on top of my pc

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and on a plastic table

sullen linden Dec 25, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Tried out my Oculus Rift S for the first time today!

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Is it alright to clean the lenses with a glasses cleaner?

haughty thistle Dec 25, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Try to keep any chemicals away from the lenses

soft hound Dec 25, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Just a microfibre cloth, I wouldn't use any liquids personally

sullen linden Dec 25, 2019, 7:12 PM

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I'm running the index on the specs that follow and can only manage 90hz at the full resolution, what's happening? Did I install drivers wrong?
CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K @ 4 Ghz
GPU: NVIDIA RTX TITAN
RAM: 32GB DDR4
Storage: Intel 660p 1TB SSD + 2TB HDD
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula
PSU: Corsair AX1600i

sullen linden Dec 25, 2019, 7:27 PM

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@haughty thistle I meant the cloth. Not liquid.

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I think its microfiber. I'm assuming it'd be safe to use seeing as it can be used to clean glasses.

haughty thistle Dec 25, 2019, 7:55 PM

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@sullen linden, if you have a modern high-res headset (like the Valve Index), you'll always find games that have too high of a graphical demand to run at 144Hz. It's kinda like on Flat-gaming where even the biggest, baddest gaming machine can't run all the games at highest Quality settings at 4k 144Hz

hexed notch Dec 25, 2019, 10:16 PM

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It really depends what games

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I've got an index and 9900k and 2080ti, and I had 144 in pistol whip, superhotvr, and virtual desktop, but boneworks I've dropped below 30

sullen linden Dec 25, 2019, 11:15 PM

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The amount of times I've hit the headset with my controllers—

haughty thistle Dec 26, 2019, 12:15 AM

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I can safely say, that I hit my current headset with my controllers only once. it was my second time playing Beat Saber on my Index, and hit the faceplate right smack down in the middle. has a nice battle scar ever since

sullen linden Dec 26, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Luckily it was only a few small bumps. There's a couple of scuffs on the controllers and a tiny paint mark where my boyfriend's brother smacked the wall.

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I guess battle scars are a good way to look at them. Especially since I'm super OCD about stuff like that.

sullen linden Dec 26, 2019, 2:40 AM

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I didn't hit anything but nearly had an heart attack when one of my index controllers fell from on top of my pc onto my desk and then on the floor

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Result was a small scratch on the bottom of the controller

sullen linden Dec 26, 2019, 4:47 AM

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Phew that's lucky

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I saw someone on reddit who dropped their Oculus controller and the tracking ring snapped.

hexed notch Dec 26, 2019, 7:52 AM

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I was sitting down, and wacked myself very hard in the knee I forget what I was playing

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Drew blood

wispy wing Dec 26, 2019, 8:09 AM

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Lol

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Same in superhot but with the original touch controllers, whacked my hand in my shelf and everything fell off of it, grabbed a heatsink with my forehead :3

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I was throwing an axe or something

sullen linden Dec 26, 2019, 11:42 AM

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is htc vive cosmos better then oculus rift s?

wispy wing Dec 26, 2019, 11:54 AM

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Idk, but I know there's a lot of issues with it

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At least for now and it seems that it's only software side

sullen linden Dec 26, 2019, 11:57 AM

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hmm so you prefer i should go for oculus?

hexed notch Dec 26, 2019, 12:17 PM

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Cosmos is baaad

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Yes

green crypt Dec 26, 2019, 12:26 PM

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cosmos is worse then wmr so yeah get the oculus

hexed notch Dec 26, 2019, 12:37 PM

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Well

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That certainly depends

haughty thistle Dec 26, 2019, 12:57 PM

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I mean, the actual headset in case of the cosmos is better than pretty much all WMR headsets (build-quality and stuff), but the tracking is just plain $hit compared to WMR. And the tracking on WMR isn't the best in world, but it's at least usable...

green crypt Dec 26, 2019, 1:01 PM

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yeah and the cosmos is really expensive for that tracking and when the adapter plate to lighthouse tracing comes it's even gonna be more expensive

twilit sage Dec 26, 2019, 1:48 PM

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@sullen linden cosmos has terrible tracking issues and the value is terrible

sullen linden Dec 26, 2019, 1:54 PM

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hmm thanks

sullen linden Dec 26, 2019, 2:30 PM

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i have le lenovo explora

autumn tangle Dec 26, 2019, 3:04 PM

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vive support

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is under a nda agreement

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when you contact them

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wait

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did i just break the nda

autumn tangle Dec 26, 2019, 3:24 PM

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hold on.

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VIVE SUPPORT

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DIDN'T. SUCK.

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they gave me a [redacted due to nda] for free

quiet saffron Dec 26, 2019, 5:56 PM

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so ive got a 580 8 gig, and my friend gave me a 970 which would work better for vr?

sullen linden Dec 26, 2019, 6:08 PM

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I wouldn't get the Vive Cosmos

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Because you shouldn't pay £500 for a headset that doesn't work like it should. Even if it is software side.

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The Oculus Rift S has a few tracking issues when it first came out but it was nowhere near as bad and was fixed very quickly.

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yes ot would @quiet saffron

quiet saffron Dec 26, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Wait

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Would the 580 or the 970 work better

young marten Dec 26, 2019, 6:39 PM

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I have no clue why the Cosmos team didn’t postpone their headset for a year or something. I don’t know marketing much but this headset is tarnishing their already mediocre pr. They could have released the headset with the plate add on as well. I don’t know anyone who really would want the crap they are selling now.

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Flight sim users and basically anyone who doesn’t care about hand tracking were spared the pain the bad tracking brought tho.

hexed notch Dec 26, 2019, 6:46 PM

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@quiet saffron both are the same

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They are equally the recommended spec of vr

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But the 580 is faster generally

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So for not VR it's a better idea

quiet saffron Dec 26, 2019, 6:48 PM

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neato, thankies

sullen linden Dec 26, 2019, 11:07 PM

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i ordered oculus rift s

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well its true htc cosmos got lot of bugs and its still in beta

autumn tangle Dec 27, 2019, 1:41 AM

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my left headstrap

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its loose

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i dont have a t6 torx

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to tighten its screw

main patrol Dec 27, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Anyone know any websites I can get an oculus quest? All websites and locations near me are sold out. Really don’t wanna wait till February.

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There are some on amazon but I don’t wanna pay $300 extra from a third party seller and there’s nobody selling on Craigslist or anything like that near me.

sullen linden Dec 27, 2019, 2:36 AM

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@main patrol simple, DON'T BUY ONE

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the quest is utter garbage

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they charge $400 for a shitty excuse for a "Vr" expierence

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and its soooooo uncomfortable

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it can barely run games at high quality

main patrol Dec 27, 2019, 2:38 AM

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I wasn't asking for an opinion PepeLaugh

sullen linden Dec 27, 2019, 2:38 AM

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its such an overhyped headset

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its not an opinion, im a REAL vr owner

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the quest is just shit

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anyone who buys one is an idiot

main patrol Dec 27, 2019, 2:39 AM

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I'm not buying it for myself, my brother has been asking for one. We can't really afford a high end gaming pc for the rift and we just want to have fun, we don't need a 4k experience or anything like that.

sullen linden Dec 27, 2019, 2:39 AM

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you dont need a high end gaming PC LMAO

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the rift runs on shitty specs

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a valve index can run smooth on a 1070

main patrol Dec 27, 2019, 2:40 AM

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yes im sure it can run on my gtx 1050 2gb

sullen linden Dec 27, 2019, 2:40 AM

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and the Rift S is shit too

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most likely

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all oculus products suck

main patrol Dec 27, 2019, 2:40 AM

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sorry i dont want to drop 1500 on the htc vive pro

sullen linden Dec 27, 2019, 2:40 AM

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the HTC vive is like $250

main patrol Dec 27, 2019, 2:40 AM

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im not here to argue I just want to find a place to purchase one

sullen linden Dec 27, 2019, 2:40 AM

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well goodlucj

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they dont sell until Febuary

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dude the vive is $250 used in amazing condition

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you can buy a gaming pc and vive for the price of a quest

gleaming grove Dec 27, 2019, 2:43 AM

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I built my first VR PC for 270 euros 😄

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@main patrol You first need to say where are you from? proper6LAUGH Like I can get one on mediamarkt here

main patrol Dec 27, 2019, 2:50 AM

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the us

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the quest is sold out everywhere tho

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so im just trying to find a place that sells them

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also would it be better to spend a little more on upgrading my pc and getting the rift s instead of the quest?

young marten Dec 27, 2019, 3:30 AM

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Well Quest is a mobile headset meant for people on the move a lot. You can also use the link cable for occasional pc vr. It is great just because it fills in this niche. Go for something like the rift s if you are not looking to take it around all the time. Tbh for me I don’t like buying used electronics but used headsets work. @main patrol

gleaming grove Dec 27, 2019, 3:40 AM

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@main patrol Well you can look at the Quest as a Console (Xbox/PS) but for VR. The hardware is cheaper and Graphics are worse but the games are way more expensive on it.

void grove Dec 27, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Tbf, even the rift versions of oculus titles don't go on that deep of a sale. They're currently having a winter sale and robo recall is only 15% off

gleaming grove Dec 27, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Yeah just get games on Steam for cheap

main patrol Dec 27, 2019, 3:44 AM

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I'm considering just getting the rift s and possibly putting the htc deluxe audio strap on it? From what I can tell it's not meant to be compatible but people find clever ways to do it?

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also how does the audio strap work? does it go straight through to the headset or?

void grove Dec 27, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Yeah, you can mod it onto the headset, was thinking about doing that myself, but don't really want to drop $100 on it. thanking

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It plugs into the headphone jack on the side

main patrol Dec 27, 2019, 3:46 AM

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alright

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what do u think as far as accesories?

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was thinking just the audio strap and a case for when I have to bring it places

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also I literally can't find the deluxe audio strap literally anywhere online it's all out of stock :/

void grove Dec 27, 2019, 4:25 AM

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oof

cloud pier Dec 27, 2019, 6:36 AM

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I like the Quest more than the Rift S.
I used the Rift S for less than 4 hours, and hated it. Returned it and got the Quest on the same day. I'm happy with my decision.
I've owned a Rift CV1, and for a few days a Vive. I didn't like the Vive, don't remember the reason why, I just didn't.

Test out the headsets. I think you can try out both the Rift S and Quest at Microsoft Stores. Then decide which to get.

tall hamlet Dec 27, 2019, 11:42 AM

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any reason to get cv1 rift over rift s?

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like i see AMOLED over LCD and mechanical IPD slider, isn't base station tracking also better?

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or is it just really personal preference

gentle coral Dec 27, 2019, 12:04 PM

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My friend modded his quest to add the deluxe audio stap, and it improves the headset quite a lot. Also creating an external battery holster is a good idea if you use it for long periods.

All you need is some velcro for the sides and a few zip ties for the top.

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I'll send pictures the next time I use it.

twilit sage Dec 27, 2019, 1:37 PM

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@tall hamlet if you don't want to do a scavenger hunt every time a cable breaks then don't get the CV1.

hexed notch Dec 27, 2019, 2:06 PM

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cv1 has issues

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i mean ive never broken a cable

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but its definetly better to take the res even if it cant do behind the back and other stuff

autumn tangle Dec 27, 2019, 3:12 PM

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burner was uh

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very strong about pcvr

rapid bear Dec 27, 2019, 3:50 PM

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this is my valve index haha

haughty thistle Dec 27, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Or how I like to call it: stereo-videoplayer

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Proper VR has at least 6DOF on the headset

void grove Dec 27, 2019, 4:14 PM

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basically

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I thought the gear VR was too front heavy with my s8+. :x so I returned it the day I got it.

haughty thistle Dec 27, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Wait... the GearVR is compatibile with modern Samsung phones? I though it was made only for the Note 4

void grove Dec 27, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Nope, the S8/+ supported it, not sure if the 9 or 10 do tho

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ThinkStare

haughty thistle Dec 27, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Welp. That's what I get for not informing myself about outdated technology...

white nymph Dec 27, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Hey, i have the ability to "test" VR with a Vive Pro or a Rift S....what do you guys think is better for testing if i can use VR at all?

haughty thistle Dec 27, 2019, 5:40 PM

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SteamVR compatibility test or VRmark Orange room

white nymph Dec 27, 2019, 5:45 PM

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I meant me physically....my rig is more than capable....I tend to get motion sickness

void grove Dec 27, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Microsoft store?

haughty thistle Dec 27, 2019, 5:47 PM

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VRmark can give you exact performance measures on how it'll act. If you are keen on motion sickness, higher refreshrates can help. 90Hz will fit the bill for most people but some might need the even higher refrashrate of the Index (120Hz/144Hz). In generall though, motionsickness doesn't tend to be problem in VR as much as it is on the flat screen from what I've heared, so your milage may vary

white nymph Dec 27, 2019, 5:50 PM

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I live in Germany, im not even sure if there is a Microsoft store....and if it is, its not anywhere close^^ guess im testing it with a Vive Pro....since that one i can rent for a month, the index i need to buy

haughty thistle Dec 27, 2019, 5:51 PM

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I mean, you can return anything ordered online during the first 14 days after arrival in germany. I'm just sayin'

white nymph Dec 27, 2019, 5:53 PM

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i know, but i dont like that policy.....its so wastefull

haughty thistle Dec 27, 2019, 5:54 PM

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It's your decision. My gripe about MediaMarkt is that they removed all VR displays from their Stores, because they weren't popular enough according to them...

white nymph Dec 27, 2019, 5:55 PM

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you can still order them online....i wasnt in a real MediaMarkt in years.....i live in the middle of nowhere

haughty thistle Dec 27, 2019, 5:56 PM

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I have a MediaMarkt around the corner. I which they still had the displays when I got into VR, but at that point they were already gone :/

hexed notch Dec 27, 2019, 6:05 PM

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maggie try the lab

white nymph Dec 27, 2019, 6:10 PM

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the lab?

autumn tangle Dec 27, 2019, 6:55 PM

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vr game

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steamvr

white nymph Dec 27, 2019, 7:25 PM

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when i have a VR headset i will

sullen linden Dec 27, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Can i get FBT on lenovo explorer?

haughty thistle Dec 27, 2019, 8:47 PM

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If you go for the Kinect or buy Lighthouses, yes

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But only on SteamVR

sullen linden Dec 27, 2019, 9:41 PM

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what lighthouses can i get

haughty thistle Dec 27, 2019, 10:22 PM

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For the Vive trackers with Blue logo: both the old and new lighthouses
For the Vive trackers with Gray logo: Only the old lighthouses
The old lighthouses have a flat front whereas the new lighthouses have a curved front

green crypt Dec 27, 2019, 10:42 PM

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if you want to buy the lighthouses the ones for the valve index are the cheapest ones for 2.0 and the same price as the 1.0 ones and are more robust

haughty thistle Dec 27, 2019, 11:32 PM

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The biggest benefit of the 2.0 lighthouses is that their syncing is so robust, that you can comfortably place them in a position where you might occlude them from one another during gameplay (like on a table or something)
Plus if you ever notice any blind spots in your play area, you can even add more lighthouses (up to 4 are supported). It's significantly more expensive than buying another camera for the Rift CV1 and doesn#t improve the quality of tracking, but removing blind spots might be worth the price for you

autumn tangle Dec 28, 2019, 3:24 PM

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what i did

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was put my base station

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on my pc

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so its higher than the other one

hexed notch Dec 28, 2019, 3:38 PM

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One is on a bookshelf, the other is on a pile of broken electronics

haughty thistle Dec 28, 2019, 3:59 PM

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When I got my Vive I orignally put one lighthouse on the far end of my desk and the other on my night stand in the other corner of my room. Worked pretty well unless is stood in the middle of my playspace while SteamVR was starting up

sullen linden Dec 28, 2019, 4:34 PM

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I still think getting tall low profile tripods is a good way to get your lighthouses setup

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If you don't want to drill into your wall that is

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That's how I have mine

haughty thistle Dec 28, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Those tripods will wabble if you touch them, which will throw off any tracking. The best solution that does not include drilling into the wall are support pillars. They can be more expensive than a normal tripod, but they are rock-solid. Support pillars are usually used in construction, when they work on walls and stuff, so that the ceiling doesn't collapse while they are working on them

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I wouldn't suggest getting these support pillars used, since, well... they can be covered in paint and such, so they don't look as good

sullen linden Dec 28, 2019, 4:45 PM

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My room is big enough so I never get even near the tripods unless I'm walking around with FBT in vrchat

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Even then I can see my boundaries so accidentally touching them won't be a problem

haughty thistle Dec 28, 2019, 4:46 PM

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I'm just saying. Those support pillars are also more low profile, so they tend to be the perfect solution to optimize available space to used space ratio 😉

sullen linden Dec 28, 2019, 4:46 PM

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So yeah not really a solution for smaller spaces I guess

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Aren't there also those poles you can put between your floor and ceiling

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Heard those are pretty good too but they were twice the price of my tripods so I ended up with these

haughty thistle Dec 28, 2019, 4:48 PM

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I might've used the wrong word. I was talking about those poles that span from the floor to the ceiling, yeah...

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As I said, more expensive, but generally a better solution

sullen linden Dec 28, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Ah ok, I literally thought you meant the construction pillars

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Tripod for a big playspace and pole for a smaller one

haughty thistle Dec 28, 2019, 4:51 PM

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That pole suggestion I got from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gji97iuNYLg
I haven't tried it, but considering what tripods I've seen in the past, I belive they're word on it

YouTube

MakeUseOf

Tips for a Perfect VR Room

Read the article at http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/perfect-virtual-reality-room-setup/

What’s MakeUseOf? Technology, simplified.

The MakeUseOf blog covers all types of technology, including advice for all the ...

▶ Play video

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He mentions his mounting at around 3 minutes

sullen linden Dec 28, 2019, 4:54 PM

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Yeah those would probably work really well

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My ceiling has this weird crumbly texture though so I probably wouldn't be able to use those without leaving permanent marks

haughty thistle Dec 28, 2019, 4:56 PM

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I can imagine

sullen linden Dec 28, 2019, 5:04 PM

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well ive got WMR so...

autumn tangle Dec 28, 2019, 8:33 PM

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...my tracking is 10x worse

sullen linden Dec 28, 2019, 10:43 PM

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you sayin i have bad tracking?

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@autumn tangle

steel mist Dec 29, 2019, 1:13 AM

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hey, anyone know of any high bpm single saber songs for beatsaber?

sullen linden Dec 29, 2019, 2:41 AM

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what is the battery type of oculus rift s controller?

young marten Dec 29, 2019, 2:46 AM

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AA

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@sullen linden

sullen linden Dec 29, 2019, 2:55 AM

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thanks

ebon mist Dec 29, 2019, 3:34 AM

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I have a legion by Lenovo y520 and was curious if you could use it with the rift s I have tryed to use a usb c to display port adapter and it says connect display port

sullen linden Dec 29, 2019, 4:06 AM

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try direct pc connection @ebon mist

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and i dont think so

sweet crag Dec 29, 2019, 10:10 AM

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I see a deal for a cv1 for 300 euros is it with it

cloud pier Dec 29, 2019, 11:24 AM

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Try and find more options.
I could get a used CV1 for 250 usd (224 Euro)
Or a used Rift S for 275 usd (247 Euro)

Of course IDK the availability for where you live though.

sweet crag Dec 29, 2019, 12:42 PM

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K I'll keep an eye out for unwanted Christmas presents

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Samsung headsets are quite cheap around hear are they any good

haughty thistle Dec 29, 2019, 2:06 PM

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Depends on what Samsung Headset. If it's the Odyssey or Odyssey+, your good. Do not get the Samsung GearVR! it's no longer supported and only supports what I call "fakeVR" or "stereoscopic Cinema". It makes people sick

autumn tangle Dec 29, 2019, 3:28 PM

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@sullen linden ☑️

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i could not finish certain songs on beat saber with wmr controllers

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now i can

sullen linden Dec 29, 2019, 3:56 PM

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wdym now i can

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and i dont think thr tracking is that bad

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i havent used my headset yet but ive seem videos and the tracking looks flawless to me

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apart from when ur controllers are behind you

surreal tide Dec 29, 2019, 4:47 PM

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I was completely fine playing beatsaber on wmr

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Idk how everyone has problems with it

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Yeah there were the occasional times where the tracking would wonk out for a bit but nothing that hindered my experience

haughty thistle Dec 29, 2019, 4:51 PM

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^

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I had difficulties using the old SteamVR interface tho, since the controllers were lightly shaking all the time xD

autumn tangle Dec 29, 2019, 6:39 PM

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my experience was total crap

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on one pc it straight up didn't work at all

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just was like

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we ran into a problem lol

surreal tide Dec 29, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Hm

haughty thistle Dec 29, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Had that issue as well. In my case it was probably the power delivery on the USB 3 Controller coming from the chipset, which might not been enough, as it never worked with the normal USB 3, but did end up working with the USB 3.1 port which is on a different controller

autumn tangle Dec 29, 2019, 7:09 PM

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ee

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liar

harsh niche Dec 29, 2019, 10:04 PM

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aye

harsh niche Dec 29, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Does anyone here have an oculus rift cv1?

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I want to get one, but the entire package is really expensive so I'm thinking about only getting the headset and controlling everything with an xbox controller

haughty thistle Dec 29, 2019, 11:40 PM

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I'd suggest going for a full bundle as hand presence in VR is a lot more than just waving your hands around. It's about the immersion (plus I don't think a lot of gamepad compatible VR titles are still being released)

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Also: If you do wanna get a VR headset, either go onto the used market and try to find a reasonable price, or buy a newer generation headset like the Rift S or Oculus Quest

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 1:27 AM

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Depends what you want to do

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If you just wanna watch movies in 3d sure skip touch

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But if you want vr, get the controllers

cloud pier Dec 30, 2019, 6:44 AM

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It'd be fine for racing simulators too

wispy wing Dec 30, 2019, 8:33 AM

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Cv1 packs are eally cheap on ebay

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And you only need two sensors for roomscale (thos it's not perfect, it's an official use case)

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Or just buy some WMRs

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Tho i'm not really knowledgeable in WMRs ^^

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 6:48 PM

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How good is the index at reading small text like from a desktop view?

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or really any headset with better res than a og vive or rift cv1

fluid crown Dec 30, 2019, 8:49 PM

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I'm currently getting PSVR set up on my PC

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:34 PM

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@whole fossil it's gud, but still less than 1080p monitor at a fairly reasonable distance

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Imo

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:34 PM

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thats good to know

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I have money for the index but its just not in stock since like nov

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Yep

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:35 PM

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really sucks wanted to play boneworks for the first time with it

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at least i have the controllers with my vive

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:35 PM

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But hla launched

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:35 PM

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yeah and all the stock disappeared

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Yep
I'm glad i grabbed mine pre hla

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:36 PM

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lol not even the base stations are there

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cant wait to try beat saber at 120 or 144

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Yee

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I will say tho
The motion clarity at even just 90 is super solid

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:40 PM

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dont even know if i can even get 144 with my setup rn lol

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prob will be fine tbh

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Beat saber? That would take a weak system...

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:41 PM

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well im on linux so it needs to go though a compatibility layer

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Um

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:41 PM

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aka makes dx 11 calls to vulkan

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and makes windows api calls to linux

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:41 PM

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That's not recommended?

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:41 PM

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well theres no ports of vr games for linux

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all of it is windows only

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only thing that linux ported is steam vr home

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Ever considered dual boot?

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:42 PM

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i do have windows on another drive but i never really use it not even for vr since using linux is faster

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last time i used it was for oculus stuff

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:43 PM

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I really wish the state of Linux was better for niche stuff :(

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:44 PM

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well i wish valve would fix steam vr to be a little less bad on linux currently its broke on some stuff but at least it allows me to play vr on linux

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so that makes me a happy boi

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Tbh I'm probably building a dedicated VR system

sullen linden Dec 30, 2019, 9:45 PM

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one of my lenovo explorer controllers is not as bright as the other one

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is that normal

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:45 PM

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ohh thats a fun idea for the future, a vr pc that uses linux and just boots a simple desktop and steam vr

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:46 PM

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I was more thinking other way around but that could work

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@sullen linden if it's working now then ignore it

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:46 PM

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people have made a x11 server that works in vr, its pretty neat

sullen linden Dec 30, 2019, 9:46 PM

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i dont know if its working yet tho

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:46 PM

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Maybe replace batteries

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Ah

sullen linden Dec 30, 2019, 9:46 PM

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i havent used it yet

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Try it

sullen linden Dec 30, 2019, 9:47 PM

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when i get my new gpu

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Oh

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Will it be out of the return period of the headset?

sullen linden Dec 30, 2019, 9:47 PM

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no

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Then you are good

sullen linden Dec 30, 2019, 9:48 PM

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on friday i get my new gpu

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:48 PM

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I'd suggest trying it then :P

sullen linden Dec 30, 2019, 9:48 PM

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yeah

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i cant wait to finally play proper VR

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:48 PM

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its a blast

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Welcome to fun

sullen linden Dec 30, 2019, 9:49 PM

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haha

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:49 PM

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It's kinda ruined other games for me tho

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:49 PM

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playing racing games on a 2d screen sucks for me now

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Boneworks is soooo cool

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:49 PM

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yeah even if it makes me sick after 4 hours

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:50 PM

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You can stand that long?
Like physically stand up and move around?

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:50 PM

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yes

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:50 PM

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I get tired after about 2 hours

sullen linden Dec 30, 2019, 9:50 PM

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i cant wait to play superhot

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:50 PM

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well, idk how long you have played vr for but i have been since 2017

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Same

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December 2017 but still

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:51 PM

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meh people are different

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:51 PM

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I might be more energetic when playing?

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Tho generally I have a worse time with nausea

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I instantly got sick the moment the framerate dropped below 30 in the sewer section

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:52 PM

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the only thing that makes me sick fast is spining a lot in space

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oh god yeah those framedrops

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:53 PM

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You need a goddamn NASA supercomputer to play that game goodness

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:53 PM

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yeah, the rest of the game my gpu was fine

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but that one lvl

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Yep

sullen linden Dec 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

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i was raised at 10fps so i dont think i will get bad motion sickness

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

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He

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No

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

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vr is differnt

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Not how it works

sullen linden Dec 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

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shut

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

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I was raised by Intel HD 2000

sullen linden Dec 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

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same

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

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i was raised by gtx 650 i think

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Lucky

sullen linden Dec 30, 2019, 9:55 PM

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yeah

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lucky

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:55 PM

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my dad would build us pc's, it was epic

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:55 PM

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That card is downright useable still tbh

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Wow

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😢

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:55 PM

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thats how i learned to build

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and now im the IT guy

sullen linden Dec 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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linus taught me

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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I learned everything through trial, error, and videos on YouTube

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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linus helped me

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Mostly trial and error because my internet was Garbo tier

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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linus

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^ like that bad?

sullen linden Dec 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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linus taught me like a father

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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No like wasn't on half the time

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Also yes 360p

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 9:57 PM

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bruh one thing thats insane is making a steam vr overlay, still getting one thing working on it lol

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at least valve gives you stuff to get started

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vrchat is another fun "game"

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its really fun when you have a group of friends going though worlds

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 10:02 PM

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That's if you have friends with vr

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:02 PM

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yeah thats where it sucks

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non of my friends have vr so i go with randos

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still fun but sucks

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so far the only world that crashes vrchat is the great pug, no idea what code it trys but it kills it

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on proton at least

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so with the index is there any difference between 120 and 90?

soft hound Dec 30, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Do I see VRChat?

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aka_hide

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:12 PM

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vrchat good "game"

soft hound Dec 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

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It's my most played game, I agree

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

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same if i could put oculus hours with my steam hours

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the only thing that sucks is shutting down vrchat but its just a thing with proton, some unity games will just crash when shutting down

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mostly vr titles

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 10:16 PM

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oh yes certainly.

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The motion is noticeably smoother at the higher refresh

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:17 PM

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oh i was wondering if it would degrade the image or something because i think you said something about smearing or i have doo doo brain

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 10:17 PM

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Motion clarity

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It's much better on the index vs the others even before you up the refresh

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And the extra refresh is icing on the cake

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:18 PM

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oh ok

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how is the passthough on index since it has two cameras?

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 10:19 PM

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God awful

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:19 PM

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oh F

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 10:19 PM

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It's barely even a developer option

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They are placed poorly and they don't get reprojected

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:20 PM

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so then whats the point of the two cameras on the index? just there?

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Developers can do stuff in the future

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That's their stated purpose

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:20 PM

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that was my plan for the index was to use the cameras

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Tho the passthrough does exist and I have gotten used to it

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:21 PM

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for stupid dev stuff

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Everything is smaller on the cameras

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Also the latency is noticeable

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:21 PM

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hmm, well at least theres the front area to put a leap motion for basic hand tracking

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like this person

📎 D-fnebTXUAE9Fj7.png

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Well
Pretty sure the leap needs some modding to get it to fit

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:22 PM

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for a better fit yeah

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3d print a holder or something

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i did play boneworks on a rift s which is my dads headset but it dosnt fit my ipd still was kinda neat to almost see nicer res

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Imo the ipd on the index is unnesscessary

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The sweet spot is gigantic

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:25 PM

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well also it has a slider

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rift s has none

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Yea

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If you have a tiny sweet spot you need ipd

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Like the cv1

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:26 PM

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the cv1 was my first vr headset and god that was amazing when i first got it

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 10:26 PM

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But the index has a huge zone

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Yep

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:27 PM

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still have the 4 sensors for my cv1

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Now it's garbage :/

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I only have 3

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:27 PM

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cant get a replacment cable anymore

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Replacement cable?

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:27 PM

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yeah

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my cable is still fine but sucks if it goes out

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 10:27 PM

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~~it has a replaceable cable?~~

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:28 PM

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nyes

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if you take off the faceplate you can take it out

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Wouldn't have thought Facebook would have allowed that but ok lol

whole fossil Dec 30, 2019, 10:29 PM

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well who knows about rift s

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📎 unknown.png

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rift s also supports replacing the cable

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 10:39 PM

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optical

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neato

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i want an optical index cable

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that would be nice

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the index cable is massive

haughty thistle Dec 30, 2019, 11:21 PM

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I think the Index Cable is already Optical as such a massive cable filled with copper would be pretty heavy

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I do have some 5.5m Amazon HDMI cables which are all Copper and they are thicker, heavier and way less flexible

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 11:27 PM

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its super heavy...

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its waaaay heavier than the cv1 cable

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its almost as heavy as the charger for my laptop

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which is 330w

haughty thistle Dec 30, 2019, 11:33 PM

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I personally think the Index cable is really light weight and very flexible for a cable of it's thiccness

hexed notch Dec 30, 2019, 11:35 PM

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Definetly is

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But definitely isn't optical

haughty thistle Dec 30, 2019, 11:35 PM

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I used a Rift S, a Lenovo Explorer and a Vive before and none of their cables were as flexible and light weight as the Index cable. Especially the Vive cable was heavy (but thankfully still flexible) and the Lenovo Cable just was stiff af (which leads me to believe it's copper)

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Copper cables generally hold the shape in which they were shipped in pretty well, which is absolutely not the case on the Index

final hull Dec 31, 2019, 2:51 AM

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What vr does Linus use

fluid idol Dec 31, 2019, 2:58 AM

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The index I'm pretty sure

umbral garden Dec 31, 2019, 3:20 AM

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Yup

fluid idol Dec 31, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Though it's $1K USD lol so if you want something a little more budget, the index probably isn't it

final hull Dec 31, 2019, 3:26 AM

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I do want something kinda budget

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Can you give some suggestions

prisma delta Dec 31, 2019, 4:50 AM

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a used/like new Oculus Rift CV1 (the original)

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from somewhere like r/hardwareswap

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got mine for $200

rapid bear Dec 31, 2019, 4:26 PM

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how do i fix frozen "enter vr" when i wake the oculus go from sleep

sullen linden Dec 31, 2019, 6:16 PM

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The index is an insane piece of tech, but also insanely expensive for what it is.

hexed notch Dec 31, 2019, 6:23 PM

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It's about correctly priced for what it is

vague ferry Dec 31, 2019, 11:45 PM

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@hexed notch i agree i thing its price of £700 without the base stations is appropriate

hexed notch Dec 31, 2019, 11:45 PM

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Imo the hmd is worth a grand

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Everything else is a bonus

autumn tangle Jan 1, 2020, 4:08 PM

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so i tried a go yesterday

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it has no ipd adjustments

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its fully fixed

hexed notch Jan 1, 2020, 4:21 PM

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yes

autumn tangle Jan 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

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very stupid

hexed notch Jan 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

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facebook is allergic to ipd adjustment

autumn tangle Jan 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

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you mean lenovo

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and xiaomi

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i completed boneworks

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its pretty yes

haughty thistle Jan 1, 2020, 5:18 PM

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All WMR headsets except the Samsung Odyssey /Odyssey+, the Rift S, The Oculus Go, Nintendo Labo VR and PhoneVR all have fixed IPD

wispy wing Jan 1, 2020, 5:18 PM

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The Rift S has FIxed IPD

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The digital ipd adjustment is a joke

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tho I'm satisfied with it since my IPD is 62.5

hexed notch Jan 1, 2020, 5:47 PM

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The index is the only headset which doesn't need ipd and it has it

sullen linden Jan 1, 2020, 6:05 PM

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I have to adjust it though or it won't look good

haughty thistle Jan 1, 2020, 7:25 PM

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The Index really needs it because it's Lenses are slightly canted outwards. So with slightly unaligned Lenses, you get a lot more distortion on the Index than on other headsets xD

sullen linden Jan 1, 2020, 8:27 PM

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dont you hate the people who hold the headset in vr

sullen linden Jan 1, 2020, 8:42 PM

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What do you mean

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people hold the headset when its on their face

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like bruh

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its attatched to your head

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Never seen anyone do that unless they're just quickly adjusting it

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ive seen people who just dont let go of it

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it pisses me of so much and i dont know why

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People you know or?

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If that's the case it may not be seated well

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some friends do it and ive seen it in videos

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they think its like the phone vr

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Let me guess, elder people with phone vr?

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im not friends with old people bruh

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You said videos

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Don't you have controllers

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i do

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they just dont wanna use them

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they cannot let go of the headset

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that would really trigger me

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Adjust it better then if it feels like it's going to fall off

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yes

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i should probably ask them if it fits alright

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yes

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I always make sure the headset is on comfortably if a friend is trying it

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they know how to adjust it

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and adjust the strap to fix it

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Because that can mess up the whole experience

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yeah

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so yeah, once they find a comfterble way to war it they can let go of it

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adjust till its comfterbale

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i think it was comfortable for them

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tell them that they can let go of it then!

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other friends find it fine

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they are worried its gonna be too heavy yes?

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What headset do you have?

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lenovo explorer

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I've never tried wmr so I can't say much about the comfort or if it's front heavy

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Since it seems like almost all of them use the halo design

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its really light

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and comfortable

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but because it flips up there are some light leaks

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i really like the htc vive, comftarble it just needs a non foam face contacter

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It was too front heavy in my opinion

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Like comparing it to the Oculus CV1 and Index

autumn tangle Jan 1, 2020, 10:14 PM

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the vive was miles more comfortable than my hp vr-1000

sullen linden Jan 1, 2020, 10:18 PM

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yeah

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the new strap makes it much more comftarble for longer except on the back of your head

swift knoll Jan 2, 2020, 12:58 AM

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the valve index is so good

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my favorite HMD by FAR

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 2:00 AM

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I was just messing around with Custom Songs in Beat Saber on the Quest, and here I propose a new Beat Saber Challange:
Finish "The Wall" on the Oculus Quest (and yes, it did lag as much as in this recording)
(embed) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/605836314356613152/662112654621671424/BS_The_Wall_Quest.mp4
(higher-quality) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586466220455362561/662115400917712950/BS_The_Wall_Quest.mp4

▶ Play video

cloud pier Jan 2, 2020, 4:53 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

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My cousin playing beatsaber on the Quest, casting to his tv.

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Video is alright, compression obviously. Audio is good. Delay is about .25 - .50 seconds.

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He’s using headphones, so he doesn’t hear the delay.

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📎 video0.mov

wispy wing Jan 2, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Ow, so you can cast to a miracast/chromecast device with the quest ?

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That's noice

prisma delta Jan 2, 2020, 5:00 PM

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brought my younger brother and stepsister to my apartment to play VR for the first time

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was a fun experience for sure

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and in my "Showing off" i actually finally beat the custom map Athletic Theme from mario world...that fqqin expert+ map

arctic stratus Jan 2, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Should I wait for next gen vr sometime in 2020 or get a valve index?

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 6:02 PM

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The Valve Index is probably the most "next-gen VR" you can get for the next 2-3 years at least

prisma delta Jan 2, 2020, 6:20 PM

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^^

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 6:32 PM

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how nauseating is boneworks

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Anyone else having trouble with comfort on the quest? Feel a lot of pressure on the forehead.

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@sullen linden Depends on the person I'd say. Do you feel comfortable in other vr games?

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Boneworks might be a bit different though with the body system it has

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i still havent tried vr yet

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although my gpu is expected to arrive tommororw

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Oh right fair enough

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yeah

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so excited

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Have you got your headset ready?

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yeah

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sick

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what headset are you using?

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lenovo explorer

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Cool

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is fbt required for boneworks

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I don't think so because people have played it on the quest

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You'd have to double check though

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aight

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should i get fnaf vr or boneowkrs

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Boneworks is probably better tbh

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they are same price

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Yeah

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i think ill be too scared to complete fnaf

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I wouldn't pay ~£22 for fnaf

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I'd get it on sale later on tbh

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But up to you I guess

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loads of great experiences out there

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and they're coming down in price too

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i think ill get more out of boneworks

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Yeah

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Longer game

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I'd say more replayable too

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 6:40 PM

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I don't think Boneworks even supports FBT

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Oh, i thought it did

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Say King571, you said earlier you also have a Quest. Is the Facial Interface supposed to be very stiff, or is that just on mine?

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Mine feels quite stiff yeah

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Didn't realise how uncomfortable it'd be actually

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Still a cool headset though

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Me neither tbh

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Can't play much longer than an hour on it 😦

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 6:43 PM

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The Battery life on mine lasted about 2 hours. Hoped it would be more, but considering how packed the thing I really can't complain

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Yeah

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mine goes for about 2 hours and 15

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not bad considering the displays and hardware it's running

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Yep. It definitely won't replace my Index (and with the comfort issue in place, I won't even use it as a wireless solution every now and then), but for VR on the Go it's definitely worth more than a Rift S and a Gaming Laptop...

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Yeah

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Would've gone for a vive or rift s but no room for base stations

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 6:47 PM

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The Rift S does't have any base stations either...

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 6:48 PM

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my mistake yeah

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I meant the index

#

Think the quest is superior to the rift s to be honest

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Apart from refresh rate

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 6:49 PM

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I mean, if you primarely use the Headset with a PC, then the Rift S still is a better headset. It's just that the Quest is amazing as to what it achieves in such a tiny device

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 6:49 PM

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But the oculus displays can be modded to 90hz i believe

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they just aren't fcc rated for that

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Yeah

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 6:51 PM

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The Rift S has a higher FOV, higher Refreshrate, looks to have a higher resolution thanks to it's RGB-strip subpixel arrangement rather than PenTile, is more comfortable out of the Box and the image looks better on PC since it doesn't has to compress the PC image in order to fit into a USB 3 connection

prisma delta Jan 2, 2020, 6:51 PM

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the Rift S is 80hz while the Rift CV1 is 90hz, iirc.

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Quest has higher resolution on paper

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 6:52 PM

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But it's screens look lower res. I used them both

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 6:53 PM

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I've used the rift s at a gaming cafe before. To me it seems the other way round but maybe i am remembering it wrong

#

what is lenovo explorers interpapillary distance

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Can you not adjust it?

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not physically

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Not seen or used this headset before

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 6:54 PM

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There are generally only 2 reasons why one should choose the Quest over the Rift S as a PC headset:

They need the physical IPD adjustment (I'd recommend physical over software starting at an IPD deviation of 4mm; the Rift S has a fixed IPD of 64mm)
They travel a lot and want to use the headset on the go and don't have the money for both headsets

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The Lenovo Explorer has an IPD of 63.5mm if I remember correctly

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 6:55 PM

#

ooo

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my ipd is 60

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same

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this is a gamer moment

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gamer gamer

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interpapillary distance of 60 gang gang

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gang

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 7:00 PM

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According to my Optician mine is 65.9, but for some reason the image looks more natural to me if I set the IPD to 67mm xD

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 7:01 PM

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strange

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maybe a mismeasurement on their end?

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 7:02 PM

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I don't know what my Eye doctor had measured tho. My optician used like a camera rig to measure it and it might've been off due to that, but I have no idea

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 7:02 PM

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strange

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 7:03 PM

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I just set my headsets to 67 and that's fine by me, although this IPD means on headsets with Fixed IPD I have a smaller FOV than others :/

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 7:03 PM

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that's sad

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fov on the quest doesn't bother me but thats probably because i havent seen much better

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 7:06 PM

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The Rift S still had a bigger vertical FOV than the Quest, but the horizontal FOV looks pretty much identical to me on both headsets. The vertical FOV is probably my biggest gripe about the Quest since I'm not used to having a little bit of darkness at the top. No other headset I used before had this and I'm just guessing it's due to the smaller FOV (which is apparently the same on the Quest as on the Rift CV1)

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Can't notice that either tbh

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Do have issues with my eye that could potentially effect that though

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Hmm...

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It could also just be me xD

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 7:08 PM

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fair enough yeah lol

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 7:26 PM

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As to the previous subject, boneworks does not support FBT

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And most likely never will unfortunately

arctic stratus Jan 2, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Hmm will definitely get the Index then. I was hoping in 2020 we'd see something even more advanced.

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 8:16 PM

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wow

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getting an index

#

imagine having the money

sullen linden Jan 2, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Imagine working

#

What's happening my VR dudes

#

@haughty thistle, you have astigmatism?

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Very slightly. I inherited my nearsightedness from my mother and only very recently was diagnosed with only very slight astigmatism. -0.25 left and -0.5 right

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But my glasses (as well as my lens inserts for my Index) already correct for that

fringe cliff Jan 2, 2020, 11:44 PM

#

getting an index also. bought a rift s to play with in the meantime until the index is back in stock. typing this from oculus home. man the virtual keyboard is ineficient. what is fbt?

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oh, fulbody tracking?

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 11:47 PM

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FBT = Fullbody tracking

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I'd suggest to not get too used to the Oculus Home, and only buy Oculus exclusives in the Oculus Store. Yes, you can play games you bought on Oculus on your Index, but they will never use the more advanced controller features of the Index

fringe cliff Jan 2, 2020, 11:49 PM

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yeah i bought everything from stream except lone echo

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steam*

#

its nice of oculus to integrate launched steam games into oculus home

#

they could have been dicks about it

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 11:52 PM

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I mean, Oculus still is still being kindof an a$$. The Rift S performed worse than my Index on my 1080Ti for Steam Apps

#

The Rift S did not have those performance issues when used on Oculus Home (at least VRchat; didn't really have anything else to compare on Oculus Home)

fringe cliff Jan 2, 2020, 11:54 PM

#

al ive noticed is stutering and glitches when loading certain titles.. 2080ti might be powering through it

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and everytime pc goes to sleep or restarts gota unplug and plug in usb cable for headset to work

#

is the index les bugy?

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 11:56 PM

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VRchat ran in the same environment with roughly 80-90fps on my Index, but was at a locked 40fps on the Rift S (aka was using Brainwarp to double the FPS)

fringe cliff Jan 2, 2020, 11:56 PM

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cant that be disabled in debug tool?

haughty thistle Jan 2, 2020, 11:56 PM

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The Index has a weird glitch, where you unplug the USB, but not the power, the camera will stop functioning until you unplug the power from the headset

#

Yeah, but the Rift S did run with 80fps in Beat Saber

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Otherwise, I don't know of any flaws the Index has, unless we're talking about manufacturing defects...

fringe cliff Jan 3, 2020, 12:00 AM

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hmmm yeah still stoked to get one for the higher framwrate and controlers. only had the rift s for a few days so my mind is still blown havent played vr since og vive launch

haughty thistle Jan 3, 2020, 12:03 AM

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I think the Rift S is basically a Lenovo Explorer, just with better glasses support (because the headset can be moved away from the face), better tracking and better controllers. Although I have an Index as my main headset I was blown away by how well things run on the Quest (which I got like 3 days ago). Yes, you can tell the lower performance HW in cases like VRchat or heavy hitting Custom Songs in Beat Saber, but the fact that it's all running off a mobile processer just blows my mind

fringe cliff Jan 3, 2020, 12:04 AM

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miles ahead of the cardboard/daydream days eh?

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r.i.p.

haughty thistle Jan 3, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Yep. Now that I do have a Quest, I feel much more relaxed recommending it to people who wanna use the built-in HW for VR

fringe cliff Jan 3, 2020, 12:06 AM

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have you tried the link cable?

haughty thistle Jan 3, 2020, 12:08 AM

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The official one isn't out here in Germany yet, and I don't feel like spending money on 1m USB-C cable with a 5m extension, which might not even work...

cloud onyx Jan 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Hpw much does it cost there? @haughty thistle

haughty thistle Jan 3, 2020, 1:03 AM

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I haven't check the aftermarket solution and Oculus hasn't even announced the euro-price for the official link cable

sullen linden Jan 3, 2020, 5:20 PM

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what would happen if you play a vr game that doesnt support your headset

haughty thistle Jan 3, 2020, 5:48 PM

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On SteamVR, the headset would just continue with the default bindings. Which is in most cases the Vive controls.

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Headset wise, there aren#t any compatibility issues, since the actual render parameters come from SteamVR, and are not set by the game

rich kraken Jan 3, 2020, 8:53 PM

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And if it's from the oculus store it just won't work, Unless you use revive.

sullen linden Jan 3, 2020, 9:20 PM

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okay

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do you think i can play DCS with WMR

cedar heath Jan 3, 2020, 10:00 PM

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If it's on steam and the VR headset supports SteamVR, then you can

sullen linden Jan 4, 2020, 3:07 AM

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agree with the above

sullen linden Jan 4, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Great

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Yee yee

young marten Jan 4, 2020, 3:09 PM

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I’ve seen videos of people playing DCS with WMR on YouTube @sullen linden

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https://youtu.be/B2LQXXDoaW4

YouTube

MRTV - MIXED REALITY TV

DCS On HP Reverb Through-The-Lens Video: Every Simmers Dream Is Co...

You know I am really fond of the HP Reverb. In this video I am showing you DCS filmed through the lens! All running on my GTX 1080ti - ENJOY!

First video looks quite grainy, it is my phone's problem. Footage looks closer to reality starting from 4:09 !

My recommended VR ha...

▶ Play video

sullen linden Jan 4, 2020, 8:29 PM

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im givin out free high fives in VRchat

sullen linden Jan 4, 2020, 10:31 PM

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📎 the_gamer_dance.mp4

autumn remnant Jan 4, 2020, 10:32 PM

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any recmadation on games that arent super pouplar

sullen linden Jan 4, 2020, 10:58 PM

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stormworks

hexed notch Jan 4, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Vvvvvv

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Oh wait this is VR

hexed notch Jan 4, 2020, 11:39 PM

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I really enjoyed virtual virtual reality, but idk if it's that unknown

haughty thistle Jan 4, 2020, 11:57 PM

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I haven't seen a lot of coverage for VVR coverage, so I'd say yeah, it's a not-so-known VR title

dark marsh Jan 5, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Shadow point also looked like a good puzzle game

sullen linden Jan 5, 2020, 4:41 AM

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@sullen linden , i’ve got some Cats orders are voronova is VR’s

sullen linden Jan 5, 2020, 5:57 PM

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what

autumn tangle Jan 5, 2020, 6:50 PM

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^

sullen linden Jan 5, 2020, 8:17 PM

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@sullen linden Wrong channel but are all your fans set as exhaust?

sullen linden Jan 5, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Two top ones are intake, back one is exhaust, two ones at front pull air into the cpu cooler

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@sullen linden

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Interesting orientation I must say

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Is it bad?

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Im no fan expert

sullen linden Jan 5, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Usually you make the air flow from front to back since it's a straight path and dust filtration is almost always at the front

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are there any major flaws with my design?

cedar heath Jan 5, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Boneworks is the greatest thing to happen

📎 Bonerworks_climbings.mp4

quiet saffron Jan 6, 2020, 12:25 AM

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boneworks is really cool

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and i recently picked up a vive, and got it all set up and stuff, but sometimes when playing i get what i can only descrbe as "shafts of blurry light" when colors contrast (ie, white shafts of light when a white object is over a black background) anyone know what this is and if its possible to fix

sullen linden Jan 6, 2020, 12:42 AM

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@quiet saffron I think you're referring to "god rays" and no, there's no fix for that other than adjusting your headset differently so it MIGHT lessen the effect but you can't completely get rid of it.

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It's just how the lenses are

quiet saffron Jan 6, 2020, 12:51 AM

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ahh, dang. when i first put it on, and pulled it out of the box, i wasnt getting it at all, but now i do, what can i do to lessen the rays?

sullen linden Jan 6, 2020, 12:51 AM

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There's not much you can do, you could try cleaning the lenses for example

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Only use a microfiber cloth though

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The lenses being dirty would also explain why you're seeing them more now and not when it was new

quiet saffron Jan 6, 2020, 12:57 AM

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ahh, aight, thnks ill tryit

is it possible to get a lense cover for the vive? i cant find any

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(not a cover for the lense itself, but more like a cover to keep dust out of the headset)

sullen linden Jan 6, 2020, 12:58 AM

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I've seen some that are supposed to keep sunlight from hitting the lenses so I'd guess that works for dust too

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Usually the god rays are amplified if the lenses get greasy from possibly touching your face

quiet saffron Jan 6, 2020, 12:59 AM

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yeah something like that

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i already have the headset all put away so ill wipe it off next time i pull it out, and yeah, i wasa wondering if you know where i could find a sun cover thing for the vive

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i looked on amazon and found ones for other headsets, just not the og vive

sullen linden Jan 6, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Sorry I don't really know

quiet saffron Jan 6, 2020, 1:01 AM

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is aight

sullen linden Jan 6, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Also just to make sure, do you ever lift the headset on your forehead? Like if you quickly need to do something outside of vr?

quiet saffron Jan 6, 2020, 1:02 AM

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nope, i tilt it up so i can see about a half inch out the bottom

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i never pulled it up on my head

sullen linden Jan 6, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Alright good, some of my friends have done that with my headset and it got the lenses totally messed up

quiet saffron Jan 6, 2020, 1:03 AM

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yeah i read about it

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a bud of mine actually had to send his rift back in cuz it got so scratched

sullen linden Jan 6, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Does he wear glasses?

quiet saffron Jan 6, 2020, 1:04 AM

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yes, but he wheres contacts, almost always, not glasses

sullen linden Jan 6, 2020, 1:04 AM

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I guess he's just a bit rough with his headset then

quiet saffron Jan 6, 2020, 1:04 AM

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yeah he wasnt the best with it lol

sullen linden Jan 6, 2020, 1:06 AM

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I can't afford to be careless with my headset because I got the index lol

quiet saffron Jan 6, 2020, 1:06 AM

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nice, i really wanted ot get it but too expencise

sullen linden Jan 6, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Sometimes it terrifies me when my friends are playing with it

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Well you got the vive so you can always upgrade the headset or the controllers if you feel like it later

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Base stations are compatible after all

quiet saffron Jan 6, 2020, 1:08 AM

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one of the main reasons to get the vive lol

sullen linden Jan 6, 2020, 2:20 AM

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That why I got my vive

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I like upgrading bit by bit

sullen linden Jan 6, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Who needs that 17 dollar kit when walmart sells them for 9 dollars.

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autumn tangle Jan 6, 2020, 5:33 PM

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is that

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a oculus stand

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WHY

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just get a real thing

haughty thistle Jan 6, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Everything is wrong about that picture:
The Oculus Stand taped to the ceiling, the measuring tape as "kind-of" pully, the cable glued to a non-flat surface...

cloud pier Jan 6, 2020, 7:08 PM

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That's a retractable dog leash, not a measuring tape.

haughty thistle Jan 6, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Look similar enough

tame plover Jan 6, 2020, 9:32 PM

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is oculus rift s good?

peak pelican Jan 6, 2020, 9:37 PM

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its decent, for beatsaber its tracking proved itself to me as not being fast enough.

tame plover Jan 6, 2020, 9:42 PM

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do you think the original vive is better for beatsaber?

cloud pier Jan 6, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Definitely outside-in tracking is better for BeatSaber.
But it doesn't take too long to adjust to inside-out tracking.
I had a Rift CV1, and changed to the Quest. Been using it since (and sold the CV1)

tame plover Jan 6, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Ok

cloud pier Jan 6, 2020, 9:56 PM

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If you can, try and test out both kinds, and both brands of headsets.

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So you can figure out which you like the best.

haughty thistle Jan 6, 2020, 11:34 PM

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I used a Rift S for Beat Saber and didn't had any issues with it. I guess it depends on the difficulty you play at. I'm at easy Ex+ right now, so that might be a factor to consider

sullen linden Jan 7, 2020, 1:13 AM

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It works fine. No tracking issues or anything. I will be waiting a bit to buy anything official. I want to get a 3rd sensor first.

willow crypt Jan 7, 2020, 2:02 AM

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ive only tried it with 3 sensors, but if 2 sensors is like blocking one of the 3, i feel for you on only 2...

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but, that also could be my system barely surviving, 6600k doesnt like vr for some reason

sullen linden Jan 7, 2020, 4:51 AM

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I just need a 3rd sensor so i can do roomscale and 360 degree tracking.

wheat plover Jan 7, 2020, 10:12 AM

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how does the oculus link with the quest work? can you play the games in your existing steam library?

peak viper Jan 7, 2020, 10:52 AM

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@wheat plover

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wheat plover Jan 7, 2020, 11:00 AM

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Thanks

surreal tide Jan 7, 2020, 12:39 PM

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I never understood why so many people have problems with beatsaber and inside out tracking. I've only ever used wmr and rift s and I've had a fine experience (tho I did have some issues with wmr but rift s works perfectly). Maybe I just don't play hard enough levels?

sullen linden Jan 7, 2020, 12:48 PM

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When you play levels difficult enough the inside out just doesn't work

surreal tide Jan 7, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Interesting. I mostly do easy ex+ like chickenbread but I've tried levels like reality check and the only problems were just me being bad

sullen linden Jan 7, 2020, 1:35 PM

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There are maps way worse than reality check lol

surreal tide Jan 7, 2020, 1:35 PM

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O shit

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I just started playing recently for the first time in like a year so I'm not caught up I guess

sullen linden Jan 7, 2020, 1:37 PM

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I haven't played in a long time either because my mods always stopped working with new updates so it was tedious to fix every time

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I remember passing reality check though but there were many other maps I simply couldn't do at that time

surreal tide Jan 7, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Ah I see

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Yeah updates really did suck because you'd have to wait for all of your mods to have newer versions and download them all

sullen linden Jan 7, 2020, 1:43 PM

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about time

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only thing damn that software installing takes forever wtf

gleaming grove Jan 7, 2020, 1:48 PM

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@surreal tide yeah I would guess you most likely are playing "easy" levels right now

surreal tide Jan 7, 2020, 1:50 PM

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yeah probably