virtual-reality

[sullen linden]

Pretty much eliminates the clicking issue then

[hexed notch]

you can set boundries on the pads too

[open tangle]

I mean i just bought the rift s and i enjoy it

Ive never used vr before so its a nice experience for me

[hexed notch]

buy stuff to fix problems
if you have a problem with the s thats a reason to upgrade

[sullen linden]

I know you can set boundaries on the pads too but I just prefer joysticks

[twilit sage]

Except not everyone has that much expendable money @hexed notch

[sullen linden]

Rift S is a good starter vr kit. I think index is aimed more for enthusiasts rather than people only getting into vr.

[open shard]

I had a PSVR before the RIFT S

Not really a start to VR but at the same time the PSVR isn’t much

Either way I can still have fun in VRC and do full body tracking

Which I already set up for my rift s

[sullen linden]

Well yeah but you still need to buy at least one vive base station to use full body

[young marten]

or a kinect

I have two from when I bought a xbox 360 and xbox one

[sullen linden]

Yeah but the kinect is very limited

[young marten]

Yeah but it’s something for those who already have them. Idk about buying one though.

[young marten]

https://youtu.be/3pV3pp5TVD8

[open shard]

I use a Xbox one Kinect for full body as I already had one and a 25$ set up is better then one that’s over 400

(2-3 Base stations + trackers would cost over 400)

Also I don’t think the rift S is campatable as the cameras on it may interfere with the base stations

[soft hound]

I'm also pretty sure that you can't use both inside-out, and outside-in tracking at the same time

[void grove]

Do the bundled controllers support both? 🤔

Has nothing do to with what Liro said, was just curious.

[sullen linden]

Vive tracker full body is just miles better when it comes to tracking

You can do pretty much anything and won't lose tracking unless you basically sit on the tracker

Only thing that sucks is the battery life of the trackers. They last for only about 4 hours.

[ebon sparrow]

4 hours

I would get 2 sets of thoses

[ocean current]

Behold!
SteamVR unable to work normally!

[void grove]

[whole fossil]

my steamvr looks like that a lot when it reboots itself

always have to restart it myself to make it look correct

and its not because of the beta

[hexed notch]

welp
there goes a grand

[void grove]

[ocean current]

Ye my entire steam refused to work yesterday. It was really annoying

[sullen linden]

@hexed notch You're in for a great time, although with a grand less on your account but I'd say it's worth it

[sullen linden]

😮

[sullen linden]

so I ordered the HTC vive a couple of weeks ago, and I watched the tracking for the package, it says it has arrived where I live, but it's been in transit for some days now, I'm always checking the postbox for a note that says to pick it up at the post office but nothing's there, It's UPS that is supposed to deliver it to me

Has anyone had the same issue when ordering their VR Headset, well, anything in general.

Also it says this on the tracking page:
An id is needed. valid (fiscal, personal, postponement) for dispatch. We work to obtain this information. / The package will be sent to a UPS center in the destination city.

It's a google translation from spanish to english.

[ocean current]

@sullen linden That's really weird, for me it was as simple as ordering it on a local electronics store's site and getting it hand given to me the next day, only thing they needed was my signature

[sullen linden]

i live on a tropical island, might be why

but the vive is on the island

that sconfirmed

[ocean current]

Have you checked at the UPS center?

[sullen linden]

I've never heard of it

I don't know where it is.

[sullen linden]

We don't have any UPS centers where I live so they either bring directly to your door or drop it at the local post office

[astral spruce]

hi what are peoples thoughts on getting just the index controllers to use with my og vive?

[sullen linden]

If you already have the vive I don't see why not

[sullen linden]

Now that I read that again I see that you do already have it

You could upgrade the headset to index too

[astral spruce]

i use the vive wirless and i dont realy want to get the cable back

im kind of waiting for somthing with builtin wirless befor i do a HMD upgrade

[twilit sage]

Why not, go for the controllers man

[astral spruce]

price

just not sure they are worth the price

[young marten]

For me there doesn’t seem to be much reason but some resolution boost on hmds compared to the vive to upgrade. If your hmd is still in working order the index controllers sound good. But all up to you

[sullen linden]

There is the 144hz refresh rate

[glad sand]

Yeah clarity and refresh rate are the main drawing points of the Index

[hexed notch]

😢 the shipping is so slow

[prisma delta]

Hey all, I'm not versed as far as VR stuff goes. Played on a friend's Rift for the first time and really enjoyed it, and would like to get my own

Any recommendations as far as best bang for buck? I'll have a 3700X/5700XT to run it so power won't be an issue.

[hexed notch]

The options are all fine
Used vive or cv1, rift s, and index are all great options

[prisma delta]

Was looking at the Rift S. Figured that would be a solid choice.

[hexed notch]

That's the mid end VR option

[zinc wigeon]

giveaway for vive cosmos or 2060

https://wn.nr/fLsFsH

[autumn tangle]

i'd pick the 2060

[void grove]

Sell both and get a 2080 Super. :^)

Oh, apparently Google is scraping Daydream

[autumn tangle]

uh good i guess

i wish they didn't

because they have a really compelling daydream phone with the p4

[glad sand]

Lol that's true, they killed it right when they released their first 90Hz phone

[void grove]

[insert prequel meme here]

[carmine flame]

Got an odyssey+ for $200. My first real vr headset, cant wait to try it!

[hybrid thorn]

I want the index. I got he Rift S and it's not too bad. but knuckle controllers!

[hexed notch]

Coming Friday hype
Why shipping got to be a week :(

[zinc wigeon]

I feel you, I really want the index

[void grove]

Same, but I want Valve's VR title more

[hexed notch]

we all watched that video

[tall hamlet]

Any recommended accessories for the original rift?

Also I want to get the index, but have to import it via a re-shipper

[dapper frost]

whats an odessey?

is it from oculus?

[pearl imp]

@dapper frost It's a Windows Mixed VR headset from Samsung

[hexed notch]

oh my god

the index is sooo good

my first session was almost 5 hours

[sullen linden]

Hell ye brother

Can't wait to move to my own place and set up vr in the whole living room

[fleet halo]

Same

[twilit sage]

@tall hamlet VRcover, TPcast, those index type grips for the touch controllers, gunstock if you play FPSs

[soft quarry]

so for converting a usb dongle into a watchman dongle, does it have to be a steam controller one or can it just be a mouse one or something?

[hexed notch]

It has to be a steam controller dongle

[soft quarry]

those are not currently available in america sooo

[sullen linden]

aight so i got my HTC vive, it arrived with a 56 euro TOLLS TO PAY? what the heck? why is it so high, anyways ive had the vive now for some weeks i think and its incredible, the tracking is so good, never experienced any difficulties, i heard of people that got their vive ruined by sweat so I came up with a solution for that, I have 2 fans, 1 pointing at my head/face and the other one facing towards my down-half, works pretty good but i still get sweaty foam, so I carefully keep on cooling the foam down with my fan, what do you think about my idea?

[twilit sage]

...it's been out for a while

your idea

I think it's called vive n chill?

[sullen linden]

If I play games that require a lot of movement I'll wear a thin sweatband under the headset

[glad sand]

How do you guys clean the face cushion when it does get super sweaty?

[glacial mist]

I just suck the sweat out

[glad sand]

Lol what

[sullen linden]

You could press paper towels against it to dry and maybe use small amounts of water and dry again

[glad sand]

Yeah, I used wet paper towels and rubbing alcohol wet paper towels, and that seems to work okay

[vestal panther]

i use the original rift (i prefer it over the rift s) and i bought a pad replacement set on amazon that makes the original pad leather. to clean you just simply wipe it with a clean rag and its better when your playing with friends cause the band doesnt absorb the sweat

[glad sand]

Yeah that sounds like a good idea lol

How is it comfort-wise?

[vestal panther]

pretty nice i like it more than the original foam, BUT the only downside is if your playing for a long time 2-3+ hours it gives you the racoon face more than the foam does

and it isnt as forgiving on glasses as the foam is on the rift cause its thinner than the foam, but that is also something nice cause it moves the lenses closer to your face meaning you get more peripherals and is more immmersive

whenever i know my friends with glasses (or my GF who wears them) wants to play i just suggest they put in contact lenses to solve that problem

[vestal panther]

BL2 vr releases in about 30 minutes on steam

[tribal nacelle]

wait what

they made it for vr?

[weary belfry]

I can see that not working all that well

Like either you are just using the headset as a normal display, and your keyboard, or they really changed the gameplay

[vestal panther]

they changed the gameplay a bit, its been out for the playstation for about 2 years now so many of the bugs have been squashed in that sense

and it does use the vr controllers

and as far as i know they removed multiplayer at this time although theres rumors they may add it once they solve some issues

and its also available now

its $50 on steam

[tribal nacelle]

feck no

im not paying $50 for BL2, after all those years

[glad sand]

Yeah I've been watching it for a few days, and looks like it goes on sale on PSVR for half off often

So, I'm waiting for that, I'd pay 25 bucks if it's as good as it looks

Watched some PSVR gameplay, and even that looks solid

But I'm pretty excited for it, SO GLAD it's on Steam lol

@Borderlands3

[vestal panther]

It’s nice, the guns look great the gameplay is smooth and overall is a blast, but here are my current problems. 1. Is the lack of multiplayer right now and 2. The scoped weapons are VERY sensitive.

Oh and there’s no support for a spectator view on your monitor or capture feed to easily stream your game. It just shows what both eyes are in their own tiny lenses on your monitor

[soft hound]

You can always mirror the headset view in SteamVR settings

[vestal panther]

@soft hound yeah but it only shows up like this

[soft hound]

@vestal panther This setting was the one I was referring to, it doesn't display that

[vestal panther]

That’s what’s enabled and what it’s showing

Trust me I tried to fix it cause I normally stream vr content

[soft hound]

Interesting, for me it doesn't show the title of the game, and just says "VR View", and displays it as 2D

[vestal panther]

Normally it works like that but not borderlands 2 vr for some reason

But on that note this is one of the top Vr shooters I’ve played in a while and if the stereoscopic view for spectators could be fixed it would be hands down my favorite vr game along with beat saber

[glad sand]

Ooh what do you guys think of Fallout 4 VR? On sale for 18 bucks currently

[prisma delta]

should i bite the bullet and go ahead and buy a Rift S? I've got the money 👀

[vestal panther]

@prisma delta just a quick question what hardware are you trying to run the vr headset

[prisma delta]

3700X and 5700XT

just built it this week :P

[vestal panther]

cause in my case i have a desktop and a laptop i like to use with my vr setup (laptop is for playing vr at like a friends house where we can LAN) and i am forced to use the original rift, the rift s uses DisplayPort and a usb c to connect and i cant run it on my laptop

[prisma delta]

I can run a DisplayPort fine; my GPU is a Sapphire Nitro+ 5700XT 8GB

[glad sand]

Would an Index be viable lol

[vestal panther]

ok, also just know compared to the original rift when i did have the s for about a week heres some compromises to the original rift, 1 lower FPS in the headset, and thats a big deal cause any microstuttering is a one way ticket to vomitville, 2 the inside out tracking i found just still cant quite compare to outside in tracking

[prisma delta]

an Index for over $1000 total really isn't viable for me after spending $1500 on my PC :P

my limit is really around $500 for a VR setup, at most

[vestal panther]

personally id spring for a original rift and buy an extra ir sensor

that would run at most $300

[prisma delta]

in the space where'd I'd be playing, really not sure where I'd set up a third sensor lol

[vestal panther]

2 is what it normally needs but in my case im running roomscale vr so i need the third sensor

[glad sand]

Yeah I agree, pick up a Rift or Vive off HWS for like 300

(HardwareSwap)

[prisma delta]

understandable; well in that case; Rift or Vive?

[vestal panther]

rift has the better controllers hands down vive has the better headset

and the rift is still somewhat cheaper than the vive

[glad sand]

Having only owned/used a Vive, I personally haven't had complaints with the controllers

[prisma delta]

as long as the whole package is sub-$500 I'm willing to spend whatever's needed to get the best experience

can the Vive play essentially any title the Rift has? or are there 'exclusives'

[glad sand]

I feel like the Vive has more accessories available for it

[vestal panther]

ive used both and the rift wins the controller battle for both comfort and usability, also if you get the rift you can use the rift and steamvr store and can buy the cheaper priced game on either store

and the rift has exclusives and can run almost any vive exclusive now also like fallout 4 vr

[prisma delta]

gotcha

[glad sand]

Do you have a Microsoft Store near you by chance? Some of those still have Vives on display for you to try, not sure if that's still a thing or not though, they may have switched it to HoloLens or something, idk

[prisma delta]

not that I'm aware of

[vestal panther]

The rift has the joysticks on its controllers while the vive uses a touchpad in the center of its controllers

[glad sand]

The original Rift is cheaper, both the Vive and Rift S are 300

[prisma delta]

I've played the Rift before, it's nice

[glad sand]

I'd definitely go for either the Rift or Vive though, not the S

[prisma delta]

any of yall have a link to actually buy a Rift though?

[glad sand]

Sure

https://old.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/dlnwh6/usafl_h_new_msi_rtx_2080_gaming_x_trio_new_ps4/

[prisma delta]

oh damn, 200 bucks

[glad sand]

That's just the most recent one

[vestal panther]

the rift s is NOT an upgrade, and id argue actually inferior to the original rift although the rift s does have the higher resolution, which is the only thing it has

[prisma delta]

yeah, ik

[glad sand]

https://old.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/dl3oyi/usacah_oculus_vive_s_wpaypal/

https://old.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/djs26e/usaoh_h_htc_vive_and_asus_gtx_1080_stryx_w_local/

Those are all just the most recent ones, didn't go in-depth and find the lowest prices or anything

By the way, if you haven't used HardwareSwap before, it's awesome, just make sure you follow the rules and stuff

[prisma delta]

gotcha ty

[glad sand]

Got an i7 3770, a Dell motherboard and cooler, 16GB RAM, and a new 512GB SSD for 85 bucks shipped the other day, you can find some great deals

[prisma delta]

ty, will keep an eye out

[robust siren]

does anyone know any good deals for vr in the uk?

i've seen the lenovo mixed reality lowest at £200

[sullen linden]

You could probably get a used rift for that price which is much better than wmr

[glad sand]

^

See links above 🙂

[sullen linden]

Shipping could be expensive if he bought from somebody in the US

[ivory parrot]

I love my rift

Would recommend, as i prefer the controllers

[prisma delta]

got a $200 Rift setup coming to me soon

ty for the recommendations a few days ago lads

hopefully shipping doesn't take ages

[ivory parrot]

robo recall

do it

[tired crater]

I'm most likely getting the Rift S by around Christmas. It's a bit of waiting, but I'm excited for it.

[void grove]

Nice

[ivory parrot]

I played the fug out of robo recall

Get hype for it

Payday2 is also a lot of fun in vr

[void grove]

Yeah, I need to clear out my room, so I can play VR again.

I have a couple of games I haven't gotten around to playing yet.

[vestal panther]

A really good game for rift users is borderlands 2 vr, right now vive users are having a lot of troubles, once you tweak some of the settings for comfort the game is a blast to play

But don’t play it till you’ve got your “vr legs” if not it will make you motion sick

[void grove]

But Borderlands is bad.

[vestal panther]

I love the series personally and like how the vr port includes the full game and all its dlc, easily 200+ hours of gameplay

Hell I’ve got 20 hours already in it and it released 3 days ago

[void grove]

My issue with the series that it tries to blend two genres very poorly. And game length is irrelevent because I could be playing better games instead.

[sullen linden]

It's funny how I never had to get my "vr legs"

All of my other friends that tried got motion sick

[pale herald]

whats the best second hand gpu i should buy right now

to play games on high settings for vr with the oculus rift s

or should i get the new gtx 1660

[pale herald]

ping me if u respond

[gleaming grove]

@pale herald maybe 1070 ti

[pale herald]

ty

[shadow raft]

I am looking to get into VR... I have a nice pc and want a good kit under $400usd... Options?

DM me or @ me with responses please

[vestal panther]

@shadow raft id suggest an original rift, or a used vive

[dapper frost]

is the old oculus rift still worth it?

[hexed notch]

yea?

it hasnt changed

[twilit sage]

@shadow raft Rift S new or a used CV1 rift or vive

Or a new Samsung odyssey+

[haughty thistle]

If you want to play PCVR on a budget, I would definitely suggest going with a WinMR Gen1 Headset (Samsung Odyssey, Lenovo Explorer, etc.), a Rift CV1 or an original Vive. The WinMR headsets, are not only cheaper but work pretty well with lower-end HW (except the HP Reverb, that is a big exception). The Rift CV1 and the original Vive are well suited as well, because of their lower resolution they don't require as much Horsepower to run them

[prisma delta]

my Rift CV1 is supposed to come in tomorrow :D

[coarse cove]

i had a rift

the sensors were annoying

but apart from that it was fantastic

so much that my new one is going to be rift s

I was considering the quest

but the lack of software is disturbing

why are people saying the rift s is inferior to the rift

i guess i will find out when it arrives LOL

i cant imagine it being worse

[glad sand]

Lower refresh rate, mostly

[coarse cove]

ahhh

so how does it look

did they make it look worse then the first series?

[void grove]

The Rift S is pretty good imo, only compaint is that the headpband could be better. :/

But I also have a really big head.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vestal panther]

the rift s isnt bad its just that in comparison to the original rift i wouldnt get the s. this is cause id rather have the higher refresh rate and not have to worry about motion sickness as much even though the screen door effect is slightly better. also i have a gaming laptop and the original rift plays just fine on it but the DP on the rift s demands too much from all but the highest tier gaming laptops. (i could only get small burst of video through to the rift s on my laptop with a i7 8750h cpu and a gtx1070. and the only way you can use the rift s on a laptop is if it has DP over usb c basically.

this would be remedied if the rift s had a hdmi alternative cable. in which case my latop could output fine

for clarity i owned both systems and returned my rift s after about a week.

[hexed notch]

og also can track behind the back

[vestal panther]

i learned this like 2 days ago but you can buy an original rift sensor and use it with the rift s to help with tracking

[hexed notch]

ok thats amazing

[vestal panther]

but i dont own the rift s anymore to confirm was having a conversation at bestbuy when i got into a debate on rift vs rift s

that was his response to when i said the same thing from when i play onward

[hexed notch]

you would need 2 sensors to get 360 behind the back tracking

and thats a solid amount of cash

[vestal panther]

unless your like me and already have 3 sensors from your original rift

[hexed notch]

yea but upgrading?
is it really an upgrade?

[vestal panther]

but that defeats the inside out tracking purpose

[hexed notch]

well point is at home you get amazing tracking
then you can do whatever

and how close could you get to an index by selling the og and not buying an s...

[vestal panther]

its not an upgrade, i was going to buy it to use with my gaming laptop to make it easier for me to have PCVR experience wherever i go

[hexed notch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/bcid5l/why_doesnt_rift_s_support_external_sensors/

yep you cant buy the constellation camera from the oculus official store any more

[vestal panther]

but as stated earlier most laptops except higher tier alienwares and such have implemented the new vr specific upgrades the rift s demands. my laptop which was made early 2018 cant support the rift s even though it has very capable hardware

[hexed notch]

my laptop works with the index :dab:

[vestal panther]

hmm, i havent got my hands on an index yet, i still enjoy my cv1 rift, my 2k i have saved in computer upgrades currently is biding its time for the next gen nvidia "ampere" line of GPUs

im gonna probably get the top skew they release

[hexed notch]

we are due for some new gpus in may arent we

yea i upgraded from cv1 to index and oh my god
its definetly gen 2

[vestal panther]

nvidia said 1st half of 2020 is the launch date of ampere

[hexed notch]

officially?

[vestal panther]

yes

[hexed notch]

or on a graph

cause those graphs change

either way may 2020 is a good time for new gpus

[vestal panther]

they released that info officially

[hexed notch]

Oct 7, 2019 - Nvidia hasn't made any official announcements about Ampere's debut just yet

[vestal panther]

nvm on release i read that wrong from the article i saw but its going to be using Samsung's 7nm process and should be a nice jump from the current 14nm architecture

[hexed notch]

thats a no brainer

and tbf its pretty sure to launch about that time

well

performance wise i wouldnt be so sure

cause samsung's nodes are mostly about efficiency

tho

for gpus that means more cores which means more power

[vestal panther]

the smaller process should allow for cooler temps which will allow for higher boost at all times meaning even if the per cuda core performance isnt better they will be able run much higher clocks

[hexed notch]

samsung's 7nm is pretty huge

wait a sec
what are they on now?

[vestal panther]

rtx is on 12nm and gtx was on 14nm

[hexed notch]

if they are on tsmc "12" which is actually 16 then that may be a huge jump

[vestal panther]

im using a 1080ti right now so itll be a big upgrade for me anyways

[hexed notch]

big?

40% isnt big

[vestal panther]

but by no means is a 1080ti a slow card just it doesnt do ray tracing well and if we see the generational 25-30% performance boost again i could be looking at a theoretical 50%-60% improvement on a "3080 ti" (some are speculating thats what the top skew will be called, easy to see why)

[hexed notch]

50% performance boost isn't exactly exciting for 1.2k (assuming prices stay the same gen over gen)

[vestal panther]

yeah but it is nice to run my games at max settings getting the 144fps @1440p resolution

[hexed notch]

what cant you do that on?

[vestal panther]

right now fh4 the new modern warfare and a couple other titles are already pinning my 1080ti at 1080p @144fps

[hexed notch]

ouch

hmm

i dont have any of those

like the games i cant hit 180 @ 1080 on are control and sotr
thats pretty much it

[vestal panther]

the newest MW runs around 120fps at 1080p at max resolution with no rtx obviosly

but thats cause the maps are big

and im not cpu bound, im running an overclocked 9900k

[hexed notch]

yoo same

its held back by my ram tho 😦

[vestal panther]

Here’s my rig, I’ve got 32gb of ram running at 3000mh

[hexed notch]

32 at 2400 c15 after overclocking 😦

laptops are pretty bad at ram oc tho

[vestal panther]

cl15 also with overclocking, i could get 3200 cl17 but that is worse than 3000 cl15

my laptop is running a 8750h with a 1070 and i have 32gb of 2666mh ram at cl14

[hexed notch]

my laptop is the 9900k

[vestal panther]

what laptop are you running, the top alienware $4k laptop

[hexed notch]

its 2 years old

its a clevo

the alienware is dum
too little cooling
why tf did they make their own gpu form factor too

[vestal panther]

idk about a 9900k in a laptop that seems like aa hot cpu to begin with

[hexed notch]

stock speeds it doesnt thermal throttle

with oc it definetly does but shh

160w is a bit much for a laptop

120 is fine tho

[vestal panther]

my 360mm rad does some work to tame my 5gh all core overclock

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380519382721495048/637141610861428747/unknown.png

heres one of my old stress test

[hexed notch]

4.8 allcore with no load

drops to 4.4 allcore load

[vestal panther]

i stay 5gh all core all the time, with max temps around 77c under synthetic load

[hexed notch]

also what? 5ghz allcore 144w?

[vestal panther]

yeah whats yours draw?\

[hexed notch]

160w allcore

again 4.8 allcore

i jacked the fsb speed to make up for the ram, that could be it?

but unlikely

[vestal panther]

damn, either i won a silicon lottery on cpu or you lost, or maybe a mix of both

[hexed notch]

probably also the vrm of my laptop cannot be that efficient or accurate

and i dont have control over voltage
which also is kind of worrying

oh right
what controls do you have in xtu
when i upgraded from 8700k to 9900k it added in a ram oc section (which is how i oc'd the ram at all)

[vestal panther]

i use AI suite 3 (came with the mobo) it allows me to change some BIOS settings without restarting, i looked it up and my board has "dual 8 phase" power supply aslo

[hexed notch]

asus iirc was the worst about awful marketing

[vestal panther]

yeah but they make decent products "even though their software sucks ass sometimes"

[hexed notch]

all sorts of fun stuff most of which is lost on restart

😦

[vestal panther]

oof

[hexed notch]

yea nothing against the products themselves
but the naming and marketing is pretty oof
also the low end stuff is baaaad

[vestal panther]

yeah my motherboard cost $280, i didnt cheap out on anything i could avoid

[hexed notch]

is that an asus non strix gpu?

cause that looks like a cheaping out to me

[vestal panther]

its their turbo card, it was a 1080ti which had the performance i wanted but was able to get it cheap

[hexed notch]

🤢
blowers in full cases

was it during the 1080ti blowout?

[vestal panther]

no i got it used on FB marketplace gave him an old DSLR camera astro A50s and $50

[hexed notch]

oh wow

thats pretty solid still

and thats pretty bad oc wise
but its reasonable

[vestal panther]

12gh on memery isnt bad id argue

[hexed notch]

its g5x

[vestal panther]

thats a 1gh OC just on the vram and

[hexed notch]

it goes pretty high normally

my laptop internal does +800...

(so 1600 mhz oc)

[vestal panther]

i can go up to a 900+ on mem but i have to drop my core OC to like 125

[hexed notch]

without dropping performance?

[vestal panther]

i found around a 150+/600+ is my sweet spot

it never crashes and nets me 10+ fps on average

and only get to around 65-70c

[hexed notch]

laptop is +80/+800
egpu is custom curve but around +100/+800

[vestal panther]

yeah so my gpu boost to around 2025mh clock while gaming

[hexed notch]

also it has a major factory oc

[vestal panther]

my mem is around 12.2gh avg

[hexed notch]

laptop is 2100
old egpu was 2164
new one is 2055 or something in that range

[vestal panther]

yeah but your probably fighting temps and your laptop sounds like a damn saturn v rocket taking off during gaming

[hexed notch]

the cpu is the only overheating

the gpu stays under 70

9.6g on laptop mem
17. something on egpu

[vestal panther]

but its still get pretty loud, my msi gets loud also, my gpu get about as loud as my case fans do under load

[hexed notch]

naw
if the game is not stressing the cpu its pretty quiet

[vestal panther]

but what games run nowadays that are almost entirely gpu, my only thing i can think of is vr titles

[hexed notch]

look

it just has to be less than 100w on the cpu

then its fine

if 8 core full load is 160,
then 4 core full load is 80 (about)

[vestal panther]

hmm, i couldnt relate to the cpu wattage thing my 9900k uses 50w on idle

[hexed notch]

50w idle wha?

[vestal panther]

this was taken just now

[hexed notch]

20% cpu usage is 40w for me

[vestal panther]

6-8 percent is 50w for me but my cpu stays at 5gh at all times

[hexed notch]

ive got an app doing 100% on a core and a bunch of other stuff
so it keeps it at 4.8

[vestal panther]

but that sjust how my overclock is

youll have to open original to inspect it but heres the full cpu rundown with power draw, note this is on idle

heres it under load

[hexed notch]

close to 160

[vestal panther]

yeah that was a spike when it first started it leveled off at 150

[hexed notch]

still
am dissappoint

i have a laptop
i need an efficient cpu 😦

[vestal panther]

the cooler i run it the less power it draws

[hexed notch]

that is true

and when its pulling 160 it zooms straight to 90 degrees

[vestal panther]

this was my temps and such on my aio set to quiet, so my fans were only running 800 rpm

you can see fan rpm at bottom right

[hexed notch]

i dont even get an exact percentage for my fan speeds
thats one downside of random chinese oem

[vestal panther]

my msi allows me to see my fans rpm speed it has some crzy cooling for my 8750h and 1070, it has 7 heat pipes going to 2 fans

the fans go up to 2200 rpm

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/477912522360356876/633878004900167681/image0.jpg

heres a pic from the inside of my laptop

[hexed notch]

lemme pull up a pic of mine

https://i.imgur.com/AU2AbDx.jpg

[vestal panther]

my laptop is weird in the fact i bought it from computer upgrade king and the model i bought MSI only sold in LA. it makes it hard to find tech support for but includes some nice upgrades only that model offered

[hexed notch]

and yes that is a laptop with 32gb of ram in it with 2 free ram slots

[vestal panther]

i dont doubt that since the 9900k can support a shit ton of ram your mobo is the limiting factor

[hexed notch]

i mean

point is i can max out the 9900k

with 128gb of ram
and it is a laptop

[vestal panther]

im running 32gb of ram cause its cheap,

[vestal panther]

and unless your doing video editing/CAD that much ram is unneccesary

[hexed notch]

ive run out of 32

pretty often

[vestal panther]

ive used up to 26gb doing my light video editing for youtube but not often am i close to touching my 32gb limit

[hexed notch]

chrome + normal background tasks

[hexed notch]

oh wow and you dont even have everything cached

[vestal panther]

i dont keep chrome open or tabs running so it doesnt eat up my memory

[vestal panther]

i havent had that many tabs open since i got out of my last job writing reports

and i felt bad crushing a government laptops 8gb of ram with 38 tabs of intellipedia

[hexed notch]

so yea

i multitask hard

[vestal panther]

dude you havent seen a laptop chug until you hit it with 5-9 instances of microsoft word, 20+ pages of intellipedia, 2-4 working versions of powerpoint up and a discord like chat monitoring software in a hot ass tent where the coolest air the cpu is getting is 90F

[hexed notch]

the only way i get this laptop to chug is to run a memory stress test

anything short of that it is perfectly happy to do

[vestal panther]

that was a time where i could type out a full word before the computer could catch up

[hexed notch]

ouch

[vestal panther]

thats government hardware though

[hexed notch]

true

[vestal panther]

i was an intelligence analyst in the military and would be multitasking on a rugged toughbook that had a core i7 in it no dedicated gpu and only 8-16gb of ram depending on the system. and in the hot temps with the toughbooks poor cooling solutions they straight up did not have a good time

[hexed notch]

Oof

Rn I'm looking at getting a tabletish
And I can save 500$, half a pound and get an extra USB port
Or get ice lake and 32 gb of ram (instead of 16)

Tbh it's a really hard decision

[vestal panther]

tbh i just use my desktop for most things and use my laptop only when i am in school/away from home

[hexed notch]

I really hope Samsung releases an ice lake 32 gb 2 in 1 before I have to get whatever I get

My laptop is my desktop

But I have an integrated ups lmao

Also I can move my setup anywhere super quickly

[vestal panther]

youll have to wait a little bit for OEMs to get the cpus to integrate into the systems, and unles its hp the other oems take longer

[hexed notch]

Dell was first

Hp still doesn't yet

Samsung is usually the slowest

Which means I might be stuck on dell

Well
"Stuck"

Imma head out, but if you spot a tablet or 2 in 1 with thunderbolt that doesn't have a gpu, and isn't the xps 13 2 in 1, the Samsung notebook 9, or the HP elite x2, lmk

I really want more options

[vestal panther]

ok, gl with more than a few 2-1s with TB capabilities thats a tall order

[hexed notch]

It is a long shot

[coarse cove]

so you are saying the rift is better then the rift s yet you have not successfully used a rift s on your system

from what i understand so far

also gaming on a laptop so

[vestal panther]

on my desktop i had no problems with the rift s but on my gaming laptop which i sometimes use for vr the rift s was not able to run on, even though my laptop has a 8750h and a gtx 1070. the whole reason i bought the rift s was so i could use it without having to carry the external cameras with me.

and where the rift s makes up for its display being a little clearer it loses it by lowering the FPS in its display, which can make some people more prone to headaches/VR sickness

basically the rift s is not an upgrade so much as a different skew of headset. and personally find the outside in tracking better than inside out tracking.

[coarse cove]

well mine just arrived

so ill elt you know if it runs

[coarse cove]

WOW

the tracking is much better at first notice since u can see ur surroundings if u choose

[vestal panther]

mine would run on my laptop but occasionally cut out, this is due to the usb-c needing a specific VR certified support passthrough, some laptops havent adopted that standard yet

thats why mine was unplayable at least

[coarse cove]

what part is usb c

mine is DP and standard usb 3.0

type A

i can actually type this out while wearing the headset lol

[vestal panther]

mine didnt have the full DP so i was using my usb-c DP passthrough but my usb-c wassnt VR certified so my display would cut out every few minutes

[coarse cove]

i got a thunderbolt adapter thing with it

[vestal panther]

my 1070 doesnt have thunderbolt

[coarse cove]

u need usb 3 and DP

i dont have the part to hand but i dont think there is any usb c in the box i got

well for me so far this is defo a upgrade

if i could onyl get the windows in to move around like it used to on the rift

[vestal panther]

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GP73-Leopard-209-i7-8750H-Windows/dp/B07BBCMKM5

this is the laptop i have

[coarse cove]

oh nice im using msi rn too

[vestal panther]

well close enough

[coarse cove]

it should totally run on that

[vestal panther]

the storage i had was different and on these models the usb-c DP passthrough cant support the vive and the mini-DP it has also cant support the vive

[coarse cove]

im not sure what it could be the issue

u were connectinig to the usb using a adpater for the display?

[vestal panther]

its an issue msi kinda made for themslves, they never made the external DP ports VR certified only the hdmi output

[coarse cove]

yeah maybe the usb is not bandwiddth enough compared to DP

i use to have a similar issue

when i was streaming using a usb 2 capture card

the bandwith was not enough for the display

can u not put it into the hdmi slot with an adapter

For Laptops: Many laptops are incompatible with the rift, this is because the HDMI port is wired to the Intel CPU, and not to the GPU and/or not enough power is being delivered through the USB ports.

oO

thats from oculus site

Known possible workarounds are:

Use a DisplayPort to HDMI 1.4b adapter, make sure it’s HDMI 1.4b or above so there is enough bandwidth.
Setting “Preffer discreet graphics” in Nvidia control Panel

[vestal panther]

i know thats why im surprised your rift s is running

[coarse cove]

im not on a laptop

its a MSI trident

[vestal panther]

the problem is the fact you can go from hdmi>DP but not DP>hdmi

[coarse cove]

hmmm

[vestal panther]

its like trying to convert an analog signal to digital its only a 1 way conversion

[coarse cove]

i understand

maybe...

u can get a something to thunderbolt

and use the adpater

[vestal panther]

so like i said the rift s wasnt for me cause the cv1 rift runs on both my desktop and laptop just fine

i just carry the extra 2 camera with me

[coarse cove]

yeah makes sense

well at least you got the rift

its a nice kit mate

[vestal panther]

i have a huge backpack that fits my laptop, laptop charger, a mouse, keyboard, mousepad, my headset, 2 cameras, controllers, xbox controller, headset, and a laptop cooling pad all in one bag

[coarse cove]

i was so sad when i had to let mine go

man

thats a lot

but essential items ^^

[vestal panther]

the rift s isnt so much as a next gen upgrade as its more of a latteral upgrade, its not like the vive/endex you know

[coarse cove]

its a upgrade for me in design at least

[vestal panther]

personally i already have room scale vr so it wasnt one for me

[coarse cove]

massive funtionality and qol benefits from the new design

for my setup

[vestal panther]

and i like the fact the original rift has built in headphones and the headstrap is smaller cause sometimes ill lay in bed and watch youtube/movies laying down

[coarse cove]

that is great

[vestal panther]

and the halo headband isnt very good for that, especially with the knob in the back

[coarse cove]

aw yea

but i do have audio on it

[vestal panther]

yeah but you'll end up using earbuds more cause idk bout you but i like some songs with base in beatsaber and such

the built in halo speakers are kind of flat sounding

[coarse cove]

well for me playing project cars 2, the surround will be fine

directional quality is more important than bass

it just depends mate

no one thing is going to suit everyone

[vestal panther]

true, if your interested i remember one reviewer of the rift s (i cant remember if it was a ltt video) made a 3d printed speaker system that makes the audio like the cv1 rift

[coarse cove]

ive seen that

its basically a clip that holds ur earphones on

idk is there a audio ijack on the headset?

aw yea looks like it

well i have some suitable earbuds tbh

they are from a bluetooth headset so the cable is not very long

should work good

[vestal panther]

thats what i was saying earlier about earbuds

[coarse cove]

well i might try em if im not happy with the sound

its only just setup now

[vestal panther]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/123817809430

[coarse cove]

i really dont need that

[vestal panther]

then theres setups like this

they pretty much make the rift s like a cv 1

[coarse cove]

well

u tried that out?

because i read the same thing on oculus forums

the rift audio was ok

[vestal panther]

personnaly no, i only had mine a week then i returned them cause i couldnt get the functionality i wanted from them

[coarse cove]

yea

well

i guess i can update you on my rift s if u want later

im gonna dive in and see whats what

[vestal panther]

but instead of spendin $50 you can find the designs on the internet

[coarse cove]

im not gonna make a custom clip or buy one

[vestal panther]

and many local colleges/some libraries have 3d printers, make your own for like 1/2 that

[coarse cove]

i got good earbuds

i dont need over ear phone things

i detest those thing

it makes my head so hot

[vestal panther]

fair enough, i cant do in ear for long periods of time cause im prone to ear infections

[coarse cove]

ah

[vestal panther]

so i have my reasons for needing over ear audio

well im logging off for the morning its 0445 here

[prisma delta]

so my Rift setup came in yesterday and I've been enjoying it a good bit

my pc isn't even breaking a sweat running it lol

[tall hamlet]

i got it when i still had a 960, said to myself i was gonna upgrade it within a week after and never did

it works but the occasional stutter will make u motion sick over the course of 30 minutes

thats why i want to upgrade now because I find myself having it and me not using it rarely if at all

[weak bluff]

anyone have tried ALVR? I tried for my Gear VR and it could not detect!

[prisma delta]

oof yeah a 960 is a bit underpowered for VR

[umbral garden]

I hope my RX580 is able to run a Rift S

[void grove]

It should be able to

[glad sand]

Yeah it'll be fine

[void grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHJEIaRX_5Y

[weak bluff]

Anyone tried to play Beat Saber on GTX 1050 mobile?

[abstract grove]

it's not likely to go well....
I also don't think it will run on those chips....

[weak bluff]

i just need 60 fps min

that's my headset limit

[abstract grove]

no, I don't even think it will start....

[weak bluff]

why?

even GT 750 start

[abstract grove]

oculus?

I know that this isn't the vive, valve was smart there.

[weak bluff]

HTC vive

[abstract grove]

vive framerate is at 90

I know because I have one.

[weak bluff]

yeah but i can do 60

in the name of low spec i can scale down to 1080p and 60 fps

[abstract grove]

I'm pretty sure steam vr won't run without certain hardware.

[weak bluff]

i ran SteamVR with R7 M265 last week

and that is far far beyond min spec

still can run i just can't pump above 5 fps

[abstract grove]

ouch

well, the only way to know for sure is to give it a shot.
if you have a desktop you might be able to buy a 1060 for cheap

[weak bluff]

thermal throttled and got critical error

hm i don't build any modern desktop at all

i have some 4 LGA 775 mobo and 3 of them works

1 Pentium E2180 PC

[abstract grove]

would make a fun video...

[weak bluff]

lol

[abstract grove]

"can vr run on this shit"

[weak bluff]

actually it's possible

on SteamVR there's a setting to scale down res

down to 360p it should run on even Intel UHD graphics with bit sickness

[haughty thistle]

Well, the lowest scale-down resolution is based off your headsets native resolution

[abstract grove]

I know... I just didn't think valve would let people run stuff well below spec

[weak bluff]

lol all hail low spec

[abstract grove]

nah bruh

[weak bluff]

LowSpecGamer tried to play SteamVR on Google Cardboard with GT 750 on lowest res

[haughty thistle]

I once tried to run a WinMR headset on a 750Ti. It worked in the WinMR environment (although at just 60Hz and very low quality graphics), but once I switched to SteamVR, the framerate was so bad, it couldn't properly display the image. It was constantly thinking the game hung up...

[weak bluff]

scale down setting

[haughty thistle]

I had it set to the lowest quality on everything

I think it had to do with the WinMR API taking up to many resources. But I had a more powerful system anyways. I only tried it for a Lan party...

[weak bluff]

hm interesting

[gleaming grove]

@abstract grove why do you say it won't run when you have no idea

@weak bluff yeah you can run VR on it it might not be the best experience with maybe few hiccups, but you can have a great time

[weak bluff]

i'll note that

[gleaming grove]

I am using 1070 ti, but I managed to run my VR on R9 280 and R9 370 for 2 weeks each

[weak bluff]

never knew i could get any low spec advice

[gleaming grove]

I think VRAM might be your biggest bottleneck and cause hiccups

You do need 3GB at least I would say

Not sure about 2 but maybe it can work okay

[weak bluff]

got myself 4GB ready

[abstract grove]

from what I know it would depend on the architecture or the gpu at that low memory cap.

To the other guy, if you read some of the stuff I said earlier you'd see my thought process. (I am aware that with computers it's a question of feasibility not can you do it...)

[prisma delta]

I wanna try running my rift off my laptop for shits n giggles

just to see if the 7700HQ and 1050ti can handle it

[haughty thistle]

It probably won't be a very bad experience. I used to run a Lenovo explorer on a 1060 6GB. Now with that said, the same headset didn't do very well on a 1050 (non-Ti) from a friend of mine (mainly the headset was locked at 60Hz, but I can't remember what the other issues were)

[green crypt]

beat saber on a gtx 1050 mobile should work if you put the settings lower for sure if you have the 4gb gtx 1050 mobile as the gtx 1050ti is the minimum vr headset recomend but if you have the 4gb 1050 mobile it should work

[prisma delta]

so I decided to try moving my sensors and the software flipped shit

i went to remap my sensors/guardian and now my Rift isn't displaying picture, even after going through the setup process again
gonna try the repair option on the Oculus software :/

any recommendations if that doesn't work? i had already tried a reboot/etc and doing the entire setup process again
any time I got to a point where it said "continue in VR" my headset would never come on (orange light turns off, so i know the sensor is responding)

this morning when i turned it on I was getting bombarded with "some oculus features may not be functional right now" or something, as well as "Guardian failed to start"

[prisma delta]

ok good news: running repair on the oculus software fixed it (8gb of download later)

[weak bluff]

can't get it why Oculus software is so big

[hexed notch]

4 included big 3d apps

[void grove]

Speaking of Oculus software, isn't there a way to change your home?

[weak bluff]

Which platform you mean?

so far from what i know you cannot on Gear VR

[haughty thistle]

But the Oculus Software isn't the only big VR Environment. From what I can remember from my WinMR headset, Microsofts Environment also was around 6GB in size

[weak bluff]

i find it funny that WMR is designed for business ppl who need to use for design and presentation but it's being used mostly for gaming

[haughty thistle]

Well, WinMR was also designed to be used for budget VR Gaming. A lot of their promotional stuff included Minecraft

[twilit sage]

Because minecraft is an in house product

not because it's a budget HMD

[void grove]

Yeah, there was a even a halo demo for wmr

[tardy hare]

helllo

[tired crater]

I just bought my first VR upgrade. From the Acer WMR headset, to the Oculus Rift S. :D it'll be here in a week.

[young sphinx]

Gratz!

[tired crater]

Thanks!!

[haughty thistle]

Nice 👍

[tired crater]

Thanks, dude!

[void grove]

Yay!

[autumn tangle]

ok thinking about 2 headsets

should i get a quest + link

or a certified pre owned vive from htc directly

they're the same price on their own but with quest i have to pay the 80$ for the link

[haughty thistle]

I haven't tried the Quest, and noone really knows yet how well the Oculus Link cable will work. So from what I know rn, I would much rather grab the Vive. But that's just my opinion

[autumn tangle]

i might try the quest at a best buy, i dont mind the vive + tracking is just that 1% better lol

[hexed notch]

id say it depends on what games you intend to play

[haughty thistle]

Yeah, I just wanted to mention that

[hexed notch]

fast paced and beat saber would certainly be better on vive
story and pretty games would be nicer on the quest

[haughty thistle]

If you want to play a lot of VRchat, at some point you might want to get full-body, and at that point, you should definetly get a SteamVR-Tracking headset (like the Vive)

[autumn tangle]

i play alot of beat saber so

[haughty thistle]

BeatSaber also benefits from every Hz you can get

[autumn tangle]

i dont love the quests non rechargeable controllers either

but then again

[haughty thistle]

Since the Quest is only 72Hz it's only sub-optimal for that game

[autumn tangle]

htc seems... unstable

of course

business is probably booming in the enterprise market

[hexed notch]

its valve software so 🤷

who cares if htc is dropping the ball on the hardware side of things
the vive is good and supported by valve

[haughty thistle]

Honestly, the Vive (and even the Vive Pro to some extend) feel like Valve Products, that just have been manufactured by HTC. And that is true at least for the Vive to some extend

[autumn tangle]

i think i'll get one

72 hertz just is too low for me

• if something goes wrong with my headset

i'll just get a index hmd

-which costs as much as a new vive lol

[hexed notch]

can guarantee an index is a good buy

[autumn tangle]

annd uh oh

i don't have 1k is the thing

i need a full kit

[hexed notch]

used?

[autumn tangle]

uh

the index

came out

this year

[hexed notch]

nu
a used vive

[autumn tangle]

there are no used indexes

oh

well

i kinda want new-certified

[hexed notch]

thats a shame

[autumn tangle]

should i email htc?

certainly they know that

put a post on the forum lol

like i'll get a response

https://www.vive.com/us/accessory/extension-package-20m/

uh interesting

[hexed notch]

20m displayport cable

woaw

[void grove]

oh, that's 65 feet

Who needs that? 🤔

I guess VR warehouses or something.

[weak bluff]

meanwhile i have a VR headset without a VR ready pc

trying to find a way to put an RX 470 to my laptop with Core i5-5200U

[hexed notch]

did your mobo die or something?

[weak bluff]

what

[hexed notch]

why do you have a 470 and no pc

[sullen linden]

Well there are those things you can connect an external gpu to your laptop but I have no idea how well they work

And a 470 may not provide the most enjoyable experience for vr

[autumn tangle]

@void grove it's specifically for vr arcades so you can place the computer anywhere

[void grove]

Ah.

[glad sand]

@weak bluff you'd be better off building a PC with parts off HardwareSwap, could probably get everything you need for 100ish bucks and have a much better experience than trying to do it with a low-powered laptop

Also probably cheaper

[sullen linden]

What is the lowest cost vr headset i could get?

[hexed notch]

Phone VR with that linking app

Anything between that and used first gen stuff (cv1 and Vive) isn't worth the effort imo

[young marten]

I use iVry for my phone vr. It can be useful in some cases.

[keen tartan]

There's a couple of weird HP things for about $100, but half the time they don't work.

[weak bluff]

@glad sand i cannot access HardwareSwap i cannot access it

far Asia little trade and also stuff here is cheap so no need to trade

and yes i am thinking of connecting eGPU with RX 470 purchase for $40

[pearl imp]

Well you need thunderbolt 3 right?

[glad sand]

There is a way to do it using the 4x PCIe typically used for the Wireless card

And an adapter

But it'd be more cost-effective to get some used/apparently cheap new older hardware and put it in that PC

[hexed notch]

@pearl imp no he's talking about repurposing an m.2 or mpcie slot

[pearl imp]

Oh

[weak bluff]

planning to use PCI-E

[hexed notch]

well yes its a gpu you dont have any other options lol

[sullen linden]

do any of you know how much the oculus rift s was, on black Friday last year?

[twilit sage]

It wasn't out back then

and don't expect a bigger price cut than 50USD

Hell, don't even expect that much

[sullen linden]

oh okay

[void grove]

Best Buy confirmed that it'll have a $50 discount

[hexed coral]

Recommend the og rift over the rift s by far

new controllers are kinda shit imo, and it has a lower refresh rate

[vestal panther]

^ agreed

[void grove]

Eh, i think the s is good enough for new users that it's not really worth the hassle of tracking down a used cv1. 🤷

[haughty thistle]

Choosing between the original Rif and the Rift S really is a question of what you need more and what your preferences are

[green crypt]

and if you are on a laptop you can just say stay away from the rift s

[prisma delta]

check out r/hardwareswap and see if there are any Rift CV1s around

i got a full Rift CV1 / Touch Controllers setup for $200 recently from there, brand new out of the box (opened but never used)

[twilit sage]

@green crypt Laptops often don't have the required USB ports for all the sensors on a CV1

[hexed coral]

oh yeah the rift s just is in general worse in every way except resolution

[twilit sage]

...what

Its up to personal preference but having tried both they're both equally great

Tracking is virtually the same, except for no tracking at the back

The screen is MUCH sharper on the rift s. Was hard to go back to my cv1 after trying a friends rift s.

Cv1 has slightly better colors though so there's that

Controllers are up to preference, I prefer the cv1 ones due to the CoM being farther back instead of at the front

And mounting style is also up to preference, I prefer the cv1 style over halo

Rift S is much more mobile though. CV1 is a pain in the ass to bring to LAN parties

[hexed coral]

the no tracking on the back is a biiiiig dealbreaker for me

isn't the rift s inside out tracking?

[void grove]

Yes

[hexed coral]

inside out tracking is always worse

I personally have the index, and love it

[void grove]

Inside out is really convenient imo. So i don't have to run a 15 foot cable to my pc for a sensor.

[hexed coral]

it is convenient true

but index sensors go through headset

[void grove]

Yeah

[hexed coral]

so they don't plug into pc

only outlet

[void grove]

But not the cv1.

[hexed coral]

which is amazing

yeah true

that part of the rift was annoying af

but I just can't imagine doing 80 hz

like... 90 screws me up

after having used 144

the biggest difference for me is in beatsaber

I can feel framdrops you know

[void grove]

Yeah, but not everyone can drop a grand.

[green crypt]

The Rift s problem is DisplayPort DisplayPort to HDMI adapters on laptops don't work becouse the port swaps between Intel and NVIDIA graphics wmr did it right but the Rift s doesn't

[twilit sage]

@hexed coral Have you tried the Rift S tracking? It's virtually the same, the only time you'll notice anything is when you have your hands reaaaly close to your face or behind you. The tracking is really a non issue

[hexed notch]

my god
pistol whip is so good

it feels like john wick simulator

[autumn tangle]

https://www.vive.com/us/product/mclaren/ lol

still avalible ~1yr old lol

[hexed notch]

oof

[autumn tangle]

any takers?

[hexed notch]

why when there is the index

[autumn tangle]

idk

because its spoocial

[glad sand]

Is the only difference the orange paint job? Lol

[autumn tangle]

yep

and the like 3 mclaren logos

worth 1500$ lol

[sullen linden]

@hexed notch Pistol whip is fun but it's going to get boring fast just like beat saber unless people start modding custom songs and maps on there

[autumn tangle]

found knuckles

took one for myself

[void grove]

Lol

[autumn tangle]

i dont get the hype around pistol whip

and why people think its a competitor to beatsaber

[twilit sage]

1. It's amazing
2. It's not?

[hexed notch]

^ agreed

[tired crater]

I've had my Oculus Rift S for 4 days. And I absolutely love it! I have one problem, though, if anyone can help me. The audio when I attach headphones doesn't work. I'm on the most recent beta firmware and beta Oculus update.

[abstract grove]

Check windows settings

[glad sand]

^

[abstract grove]

Windows will change default audio out when there's a new device typically.

[haughty thistle]

^ That doesn't happen in the case of many VR-Headsets, because the audio-device is always there, it's just hidden by windows, because the according audio-device is not accepting a video-signal, while not in use...

[hexed notch]

Also in Oculus settings you can duplicate the audio to a second device, make sure that's happening (I mean if you want it)

[autumn tangle]

ok so information about how to not accidentally disassemble your vive controller

[autumn tangle]

not to mention that they'd prefer you break your floor than your vive wand

[void grove]

😂

[haughty thistle]

The Vive wands are overpriced imo. Had to get some backup in order to keep playing VR, while I have my Index controllers replaced. The Original Wands are still 150€ a pice whereas the the ones compatible with the 2.0 Tracking system are 220€ a piece. You can get a pair of Index controllers for like 300€

[abstract grove]

huh, can't wait to get the index. Had to get my vive second hand off of ebay

as parts

[haughty thistle]

I used this opportunity where I can't use my Index to try out the Oculus Side of things on the costs of Amazon. I feel like a Dick ordering there knowing I'm gonna send it back, but I mean, it's their return Policy...

[hexed notch]

They are raking in such an incredible amount of cash it's not funny dont worry about it lol

[glad sand]

How about getting one of those 4K 120Hz touchscreen Razer Blade Pros from the Microsoft Store and returning it in late January 2020 lol

[hexed notch]

Why?

[hollow valve]

probably a new model or something in 2020

[thorny steeple]

If I were to save up for a VR system, which should I get?

[haughty thistle]

Depends on what you are looking for and where you live.
If you are looking for anything in this list and you are willing of investing around $1000 for a VR Headset, get the Index:

• Expandability, Steam Tracking is an Open Tracking System, and thus you can upgrade different components along the line, and it'll all work
• arguably vary good Comfort, the Index is one of the most comfortable Headsets I ever tried, however you have to set it up properly
• Better-than-average FOV
  The Choice between the Samsung Odyssey and Oculus Rift S is a bit more narrow, but ultimately it boils down to where you are willing to give a sacrifice: Optics or Tracking. The Rift S has the better Tracking system, whereas the Samsung has the better Optics (and that includes the panel)
  I can't recommend getting the Cosmos just yet, because it's tracking System still has many flaws and the controllers are reported to be not as good as the ones on the Rift S.
  And then there is the Oculus Quest, which seems like the better Headset than the Rift S in basically all ways except Refresh rate and Tracking Cameras. I'd say go for the Quest rather than the Rift S, but due to the Lower Refresh rate and the not yet available PC cable, I can't exactly say whether it's going to be the better one for you...

What I do know is that the Samsung Odyssey is not available in the EU and the Valve Index isn't available in most currency regions. The only ones where Valve sells the Index are US-Dollar, Euro, Pound Sterling & Polish Zloty, although I did hear that you can get the Index in the Sweden as well...

[tired crater]

Soooooo. A little help. Tracking on my Rift S controllers (specifically my left one) have been getting worse. I accidentally hit them on my ceiling (my ceiling is pretty low.) And it's worrying me, since I've only had my Rift S for a week. Any help?

[twilit sage]

Contact Oculus Support @tired crater

The Quest is quite front heavy, and there is compression and such going on, so for PCVR the Rift S is better by leagues

But if you want the best of the best consumer VR, The Index or PiMax are your best options

[lyric venture]

I tried to run Oculus rift S on a thinkpad, lets just say i didnt end well.

[haughty thistle]

I mean, to run a PCVR Headset, you need a relatively powerful PC, and Laptops without dedicated 10-Series GPUs usually don't fit in that category...

[hexed notch]

Also can confirm that laptop 1060 doesn't drive the index well

[dusty cypress]

This is a public service announcement; Modding the Wireless receiver with a fan (it gets very hot) is really easy.

Finding a plug that works with the display power might not be easy though.

[void grove]

[dusty cypress]

I'm going to ask a co-worker for a 3d printed fan grill cuz that spinning fan is very close to my hair..

[dusty cypress]

For anyone wondering you need a plug that is 1.5mm ID, 3.5mm OD to power the fan.

[hexed notch]

ooh 1065g7 with 2080ti egpu is gucci with the index

[autumn tangle]

what

[hexed notch]

i got an ice lake laptop
and i have a 2080ti egpu
and an index
all 3 work together very well

[autumn tangle]

cool

[glad sand]

Lol those 10th Gen CPU names...yike

[autumn tangle]

i was like

what is a 1065g7

[hexed notch]

ikr
tbf what else can they do tho?

[twilit sage]

Start a new line?

Like they did after core 2?

[glad sand]

^

[hexed notch]

True

[void grove]

Pog https://twitter.com/valvesoftware/status/1196566870360387584?s=19

Valve (@valvesoftware)

We’re excited to unveil Half-Life: Alyx, our flagship VR game, this Thursday at 10am Pacific Time.

Can’t wait to share it with all of you!

Twitter

[autumn tangle]

oh boy

actually kinda expected this lol

i was like is it gonna be half life?

[hexed notch]

We knew hlvr, now we have official confirmation

[young marten]

wonder if I'll get my index soon enough

if I save up enough nvrm

[void grove]

Kind of surprised they're basically shadow dropping it.

[hexed notch]

shadow dropping?

you mean teasing ahead of launch?

[void grove]

I meant where something launches shortly after it's announced.

Usually it's the same day tho

Like Fallout Shelter was shadow dropped.

[void grove]

Oh, I don't know how to read.

[hexed notch]

its not releasing thursday

well

it might be

but its supposed to release december

[void grove]

There was one site that said March 2020

But we'll find out thursday I guess.

[hexed notch]

watch the original vnn on it

[void grove]

I did

I've been watching VNN for a few years now

[hexed notch]

im pretty sure he said its coming out in december

oooh

he just said a trailer will appear

[haughty thistle]

We'll see. Honestly HL:Alyx is probably going to be my first HL, because I'm not a big fan of shooters 'n stuff, but in VR I would be willing to give it a try...

[glad sand]

Damn I'm glad they're actually going through with it finally lol, they've been reportedly working on it since the release of the original Vive

If not longer

[void grove]

Probably before the vive was announced over 4 years ago.

[haughty thistle]

But most of the work at the time before the Vive and some after went into making Source VR compatible

[void grove]

tru

[hexed notch]

This was originally going to be part of the lab, but grew too big to fit in

[glad sand]

It better be big, given how long its taken and their marketing it as a "flagship VR game"

[hexed notch]

Vnn says 12? To 16 hours with replayability

[glad sand]

Sick

If it's a really solid 12-16 with a solid story, that sounds great given it's VR

[green crypt]

Hopefully it's not gonna be 60usd/euro like 40usd/euro will be a nicer price since vr

[void grove]

Their last single player game was $60, so I'm going to be expecting that.

[green crypt]

Just hope they balance the price according to the content vr game prices are all over the place

[void grove]

Yeah, that's kind of an issue.

I think the worst offender is Bethesda, $60 for a VR version of a game I already own is a little much

[green crypt]

Yeah it's way overpriced. but valve should price things better and it should go on sales

[void grove]

If it is a solid 12 hour brand new experience, I don't see why it wouldn't be priced as a AAA release.

[green crypt]

Yeah it's decent 60 if it's really good just hope the replayability is good like Hidden ways to do Parts and Hidden decals on walls.

[umbral garden]

How much does the extra refresh rate matter on the Rift S VS the Quest?

Because Quest + Link is really attracting me

I mean, it’s not a choice until link is update to support Vega, but after that

[twilit sage]

Quest also bas worse SDE and is more front heavy

If you want pcvr exclusively then just get the S

Refresh rate will depend person to person

[glad sand]

Yeah I personally wouldn't get the Quest, I'd go Rift/Vive/Rift S (if you don't care as much about refresh rate)

[weak bluff]

unless you love portability

go Quest

it's worth and who knows when you need to leave far home

[umbral garden]

Portability seems fun but I don't think I'll really use it

But I'll wait and see if link gets better

[glossy dew]

I have a Smasung Odyssey+... and for last week or so EVERY SINGLE TIME i load steam vr i get his fault....

if I exit and then either verify steamvr files, or join the beta so it redownloads a different version it then starts fine... but when you close it the very next time I get the SteamVR Fail once again and have to do it again.

anyone else had this... ive tried everything at this point.. and searching for ages online hasnt helped.

never had this before in over a year

super annoying

[green crypt]

Launch mixed reality portal first

[glossy dew]

yea it does

WMR portal all loaded... then steam after and same message every time

its like when i close steam down it corrupts the install. so have to -reinstall it every time

wow ok.... if i load 'windows mixed reality for steamvr' link in library instead of steamvr it works every time

really wierd... ill just create a new shortcut to the other link instead then.

[void grove]

31 hours remain

[umbral garden]

Until...

[void grove]

Hl alyx reveal

[void grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2W0N3uKXmo

[gleaming grove]

https://half-life.com/en/alyx

[glad sand]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/546560/HalfLife_Alyx/

Steam

Half-Life: Alyx

Half-Life: Alyx is Valve’s VR return to the Half-Life series. It’s the story of an impossible fight against a vicious alien race known as the Combine, set between the events of Half-Life and Half-Life 2. Playing as Alyx Vance, you are humanity’s only chance for surviva...

Price

$53.99

Release Date

Mar 2020

▶ Play video

[void grove]

Just realised that the guy in the trailer is Coran from Voltron

[hexed notch]

chickenbread you made my day
hot damn im so happy

[haughty thistle]

Getting such an awesome game for free? I never though this day would come...

[void grove]

Yeah, you just need to spend almost $1000

[hexed notch]

well thats sunk cost we already bought it for other reasons

[haughty thistle]

Yep

I couldn't use my original Lenovo Explorer, because the lenses were too close for me to wear glasses, and coming from that, I wasn't really satisfied with the Vive I got afterwards...

[hexed notch]

index is adjustable ye

[soft hound]

Decision time: Index controllers, or full body trackers?
It will be for VRChat 99% of the time

[haughty thistle]

You can express most hand gestures with both Vive Wands and Oculus Touch controllers, so I would suggest you go for Full-body first

[hexed notch]

Hmm is it possible to use a Kinect to do full body tracking 🤔

[soft hound]

I'm using a Kinect right now with my Vive

But I can't turn around, or lie down, or sit or anything, just stand

[hexed notch]

Does it work?
I thought I was joking

Ah

[haughty thistle]

On the other hand, as posted earlier, if HLA is something that appeals for you, you might wanna get the Index controllers first, as you'll only get the game for free if you have them before the end of 2019, as far as I understood

[hexed notch]

Ye

[haughty thistle]

Yeah, you can use a Kinect for standing FBT

[hexed notch]

Neat

[haughty thistle]

But well, you have about 35° of rotation in each direction, and it's standing only

[soft hound]

One more thing though: I live in Canada, so the Index Controllers would have to be picked up from the US, which is a 2 hour drive

[hexed notch]

Ouch

Wait they don't ship to Canada?

[haughty thistle]

I heared, that Valve will start selling their Index HW in Canada soon, because of HLA

[hexed notch]

Thought they were na already

[haughty thistle]

They don't sell it in Canada yet

[soft hound]

Only US

[hexed notch]

Dang rip

[soft hound]

I guess I'll go true Full-body

[hexed notch]

Yea the index controllers are good, but not 4 hours of driving and 300$ good

[soft hound]

$370 CDN

[hexed notch]

300 us I meant

Cause tax

And shipping

Wait no shipping

[soft hound]

Those will have to wait for another time

Thanks for the feedback

[glad sand]

Does anyone know how they're validating it? Like is it just "if you bought the Index using this Steam account, it will be added to that Steam account" or what?

[void grove]

I assume it's because you purchased it through steam

Unless they pull an oculus and it's on device registration, which would be really stupid of them.

[hexed notch]

it just appeared in my account ( i bought an index a while ago)

[glad sand]

Did you get your Index using that account?

And off Steam directly

[hexed notch]

yes and yes

[hexed notch]

what a surprise /s

what is surprising is the index is still in stock

[void grove]

HLA is technically the best selling game on Steam RN

[hexed notch]

jedi fallen order and mcc are both definetly games...

[void grove]

Yes, but index purchases technically count as HLA purchases

[hexed notch]

ah true true i forgot about that

[void grove]

lol

[hexed notch]

goodness
today has been so good