virtual-reality

[radiant canyon]

It has a gtx 970

[gleaming grove]

It should but why don't you just run a VR test? @radiant canyon

[radiant canyon]

@gleaming grove how do i do that?

[gleaming grove]

Just download a VR test from Oculus website or from Steam

[sullen linden]

@radiant canyon ya that seems like the last gen equivalent of my friends pc, and it does fine with vr

[void grove]

[mental pond]

@rugged walrus yeah now tell em all the settings you wont get too set without them face it im right

oc home is poorly delivered

poorly designed and all round in your face too much

[vague moss]

uh, currently having issues with wmr

i have a bluetooth dongle, which is a csr model

it apparently is a separate driver and windows can;'t detect it

does anyone know another good alternative?

Or, does anyone know how to reprogram the csr Bluetooth dongle to be recognized by windows?

[vague moss]

also, is it possible to use an Intel card?

[radiant canyon]

@vague moss What type of Intel card?

[void sky]

I've seen the TPCast wireless rig for Oculus Rift, it is sold out.
Then I saw demos of DisplayLink's solution and Intel's solution, though these don't seem to be for sale.

I'm happy to put out the cash, that doesn't phase me, but I can't find anywhere to buy a wireless solution.

[vague moss]

@radiant canyon intel dual band bluetooth cards

[void grove]

https://uploadvr.com/rtx-laptops-virtuallink/

[void grove]

Besides virtual link using dp 1.4 instead of 1.2, what's the difference between it and thunderbolt 3?

[rugged walrus]

@mental pond that makes no sense, you can change all settings without the touch controllers

and saying VR is too in your face is really missing the point 😉

[ivory parrot]

@void sky highly recommend looking for it. I love my tpcast for my rift

[mental pond]

@rugged walrus the first time you set up the rift it takes you through shows you the best position for the sensor only if you do not skip the setup

if you have no controller and have too skip setup you are dropped onto the home screen

with a default config

you then have too find the config view settings

and thats not all the settings what about the one that shows you how too setup 3rd sensor

if you have no controller you have to go youtube too see were it says too put it

[rugged walrus]

you don't need a 3rd sensor if you dont have the controllers

[mental pond]

still how the avg user supposed to find that settings tab

and why must it demand to run 24/7 in the background

[rugged walrus]

I really don't see what the problem is

seems like you've just decided you don't like it, for no real reason

[mental pond]

no when i got my rift it would not let me change the position without going through the entire setup properly

i could go back and set it after i found out how and were

i got stuck on the setup page aswell

if i selected no controllers on the first page it would just loop the setup

had too botch it too close then open rift again

that was when it came out i should mention

been a few updates since

[rugged walrus]

setup was extremely simple when it first came out

[mental pond]

yeah well all that happend too me

i got stuck on a looping setup with no controllers

[rugged walrus]

there were no controllers back then

worked just fine for me and everyone else

[mental pond]

when i first got it then

idk i got stuck in a loop anyway im over it

the part about home being in your face was a pun btw

[rugged walrus]

fair enough 😄

[full lotus]

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/01/htc-announces-vive-pro-eye-a-new-vr-headset-with-built-in-eye-tracking/

https://www.techradar.com/news/first-look-htc-cosmos

[void grove]

Does ot support virtual link?

no confirmed specs

[full lotus]

@void grove the cosmos is intended to be wireless (but is not standalone)

The vive Pro eye is basically just the vive Pro but with eye tracking

[void grove]

Ah...

Icy

[tardy marsh]

I got my oculus on the 3rd and I havent played any desktop game since then, I think I'm addicted

👌

[vague moss]

finally got a bluetooth card

[sullen linden]

My vive is better than every oculus combined

[sullen linden]

@mental pond my oculus app doesn’t run unless I turn it on.

[full lotus]

@tardy marsh Have you played echo combat yet? 😄

Once you play that.....all other games become irrelevant

its so goddamn good

[crisp turret]

You would not believe how tempted i am to buy a vr headset

[strange tusk]

You should get any vr headset as long as it’s on sale though gotta get them good deals 👌

[green crypt]

pimax looks cheap for a high end vr headset

the question is does the pimax 5k plus controlers come with sensors

[tardy marsh]

@full lotus I haven't but VRChat is taking my life and holding it at gun point.

[green crypt]

dag i would want to meet you once in vrchat when i get my new headset

[tardy marsh]

Hell yea

[mental pond]

nut nut nah stop it

stop telling me things that are not happening thats bullshit

yeah sweet so i am the only one then

@sullen linden

yes it dose

closed ha not running in background ok

nah

i can see you just leave it

[rugged walrus]

the background service is so it can open faster when you put the headset on

[mental pond]

cool

[rugged walrus]

in other news...

https://uploadvr.com/oculus-rift-349-price-cut/

[sullen linden]

@mental pond I check the box “run this program as an administrator” so it can never open itself, only when I click the app on the desktop. Much easier than letting it run all the time

Especially since mine is on a stand that makes the headset think it is being worn when not in use

[mental pond]

@sullen linden ahhhhhh

ok ty

got sick of clseing it in task man

i think thats one of the reasons im so dirty

at oc

[tardy marsh]

I've uploaded a lot of avatars to VRChat via Unity already. So I have pretty much pinned my statement of being addicted to VR.

[twilit sage]

Uh so

Got my Vrcover for rift

It seems to be a bit tight

I feel like it's narrower?

[whole fossil]

same, i couldnt use it

[void sky]

I'm getting mine today, I got the pro set and the velour cover, I'll let you know how they go.

[sullen linden]

used windows mixed reality on vrChat. making me wanna re-do an old model but i can't re-download it off my account :/ rip

[void sky]

Got my VR Cover set, so pros and cons
Pros:

++ The replacement with the fabric cover fit perfectly and feels way better than stock
+ Everything feels like decent quality

Cons:

- They didn't deliver my velour cover that I ordered on the same invoice.
-- The leather ones feel too tight against my face

Going to use the fabric one for now, then I imagine the velour one will be really nice.
I wouldn't waste your time with the leather ones. Maybe they wear in though.

[lunar oxide]

could an r9 380 handle VR?

[void sky]

@lunar oxide you could always run one of the VR Ready tests. e.g. https://store.steampowered.com/app/323910/SteamVR_Performance_Test/

I would imagine it would be difficult with that card, at least in most VR titles, but some titles would work ok. And you have technologies like asynchronous time warp to make up for dropped frames, though I would rather not drop frames at all.

Steam

SteamVR Performance Test

The SteamVR Performance Test measures your system's rendering power using a 2-minute sequence from Valves Aperture Robot Repair VR demo. After collecting the data it determines whether your system is capable of running VR content at 90fps and whether VR content can tune the v...

[rugged walrus]

I don't believe Oculus ever extended ASW support to the R9 380, so it would be a pretty rough experience

[twilit sage]

@void sky I got the basic oculus kit. It came with one leatherette cover and like a cloth thing that you could lay over it.

Why does the pro one come with two interfaces? @void sky

[rugged walrus]

I believe there's a thicker and a thinner cover to choose between

[sullen linden]

https://youtu.be/uBU7--fn5ac

Tried out this bird flight sim at CES yesterday. Craziest VR experience yet for me lol

[full lotus]

@twilit sage which direction is it tighter in?

I've got the vrcover basic set and it fits fine for me (and my head is massive :P)

I don't think there's any set of headphones/HMD or anything that I don't have to wear on max :/

[torpid coral]

wath games are you playing in vr ?

[gleaming grove]

Beat Saber 95% of the time

[twilit sage]

@full lotus as I said, it feels narrower, so in width. From left to right.

[full lotus]

That's odd 0.o
Are you sure you have it pressed in all the way at the sides? It's clicked properly in etc?

[twilit sage]

mhm

My head is big too lol

[gleaming grove]

[sullen linden]

Vr hockey!

[tardy marsh]

Dope

[gleaming grove]

And how does it work?

[sullen linden]

@gleaming grove has one of those little vive trackers on the hockey stick

[fleet token]

so my exuse is when i hit someone with the stick is "sorry tracking messed up"

[vague moss]

lmao

[gleaming grove]

@sullen linden I am mostly interested in how does he move

[sullen linden]

@gleaming grove like any guy playing hockey lol

https://youtu.be/WgTGg5ncR30

Here is a vid I took

[gleaming grove]

Oh so it is a full size field? @sullen linden

[sullen linden]

Very small booth on CES floor

[gleaming grove]

Ah well sad then

[sullen linden]

Ya, but it’s still cool tech and always love seeing vr implemented in little things like this, just brings more people into it

[sullen linden]

I love playing elite dangerous in vr 💦

So good! You guys should test it out too!

[twilit sage]

Will do on the next sale

Will probably get a HOTAS too

[sullen linden]

The x56 is pretty nice, I haven’t been using it lately but very simple to map controllers

[blissful lintel]

Any one have a good way to hang an htc vive w/ deluxe headstrap. i am currentally using command hooks.

[sullen linden]

@blissful lintel like a way to hang on wall when not in use or a way to suspend the wire from the ceiling/wall?

[thorny mason]

whats some must have upgrades for the oculus rift

[gleaming grove]

Well I have it for 1 month and had a chance to use it for like almost 2 weeks only. And I am already looking to get wire extensions of like 1 meter each. Would like to get a VR cover for it because it is really annoying the sweat and the 3rd sensor would be very appreciated. @thorny mason

[thorny mason]

whats a perk of having a 3rd sensor?

and im prob gonna buy 30 meter extentions so i can run it to my living room

[gleaming grove]

Better tracking. Way easier to cover all of the spots of your play area.
You will need an active cable if you are going that length and IDK if that will bring any lag.

[thorny mason]

amazon sell 15m ones that i know people use

so i think it would be fine

[sullen linden]

@thorny mason can tell you right now anything over 10’ is a gamble

I have 15’ working fine right now, but I’d probably guess 30’ is a straight shot in the dark

[thorny mason]

ok

[fringe agate]

Is there any noticeable difference in tracking between 3 and 4 sensors on rift?

[tardy marsh]

@thorny mason If you buy a 3rd sensir from oculus it should come with a 5 meter extension

Mine did

[twilit sage]

Yes, and it will be a USB2 one

so dont use it with the headset

@thorny mason Just use active cables.

Im betting on that the HDMI signal will be affected

[sullen linden]

I didn’t have luck with active cables. I needed a passive HDMI with an hdmi repeater

[full lotus]

@fringe agate not really

i had 4 and ended up selling the 4th cause there was basically no benefit

[fringe agate]

Ok

Thanks

[vague moss]

the headphone jack on wmr died

only in 5 days

i can't return it because it's from japan oof

[sullen linden]

wHats jAPaN’s rEtURn PoLiCy

F

[unborn badge]

🗾

no offence

try opeining it up and resoldering it

[narrow root]

how can i change my controler and basestations in Steam VR ?

(htc vive if that matters)

[tardy marsh]

Steam workshop

[void sky]

Re: my review of VRCover for the Pro Kit above
They forgot to send my velour replacement padding.

Their support (in my case) was excellent, they not only sent me a replacement velour cover, they resent the entire order lol. I have so many covers and replacement masks.

The velour one is pretty good, but not as comfy as the mask replacement with the pre-fitted cotton cover IMO.

Sorry if that is unclear. All of the leather ones are pretty eh, not soft enough at all.

As for the masks being a different size, I think it is slightly smaller edge to edge as suggested. I have had to dramatically change the setup of my headset but it is much comfier than I could ever achieve with stock.

Regardless, I'm happy and my face no longer gets any VR mask marks even after long ass sessions. Cheering.
8/10 IMO

[simple delta]

Hey, small question.
Can I use an Oculus Rift with a GTX 1060 6GB and a Core i5 8600K?

[daring notch]

yes

[simple delta]

Okay, thanks!

[twilit sage]

I just

No

[mossy flame]

I have a i5-3550, and a gtx 1050. Would I be able to stream my vr games?

[twilit sage]

no

And how in hell are you doing VR with a 1050

like

playable VR

[onyx mirage]

good question..

[narrow root]

well i can do vr whit my 1050ti

[twilit sage]

the 1050 ti isnt the 1050

[warped zenith]

Just plugged it to a 1060 and it buffered like hell

[twilit sage]

wut

[azure charm]

Ryzen 2700 OC 3,9, 16GB G.Skill Trident.Z 3200, rog strix 1050ti 4gb slightly overclocked possible like smooth?

[green crypt]

Depends on the resolution scaling but vr works on a 1050 ti even the laptop 1050 4 gb versiin

[somber flicker]

Ok so I have two questions, one a bit less idiotic than the next,

1. Could my RX 570 run any VR games?

2. How do VR headsets connect for graphics, I would think DisplayPort but I don't know.

[gleaming grove]

I could run at lower resolution scaliing

as I know most most of them use HDMI port (not sure)

[somber flicker]

That's not gonna be fun my monitor uses HDMI and I've only got one... I can probably get an adapter if it really comes down to it because honestly I've just now started to even think about VR and I can't really afford a headset

[gleaming grove]

Yeah I have 2 monitors and one is connected to HDMI so I hate to unplug it every time I want to plug in the headset

[somber flicker]

adapter time

What is the cheapest good VR headset actually, because I can't afford any of the big players lmao

Sorry about asking so many questions reeee

[gleaming grove]

What do you consider big? and is cheap? $?

[green crypt]

Rift probably windows mr is not so good but decent

[somber flicker]

Big players I think are HTC and the Vive, and Oculus and their rift. I'd think cheap to be under $200 if at all possible and tbh I can't afford that right now

Alright good to know

I saw a Lenovo MR on Newegg for like $140 and I was wondering how it was because all of the like 5 variation had no reviews

[green crypt]

It's meh some games work some don't on windows mr

[gleaming grove]

I have no idea what are the camabilities of those other VR headsets like what games can you play on them?

[green crypt]

Windows mr can play all steam vr games

But the tracking is not so good

[somber flicker]

They all use inside out right?

[gleaming grove]

As I know of yeah

[green crypt]

Yeah it's better then people say tho

But not so good you get a lot of problems at times

The tracking is not so bad the errors are

[somber flicker]

Pfft tracking, I messed with using my phone as a VR thing LMAO except I don't have the headset for the phone either lol

For my use case though I'm just gonna be sitting in a chair the whole time

[green crypt]

It's for standing windows mr sitting not at all

[somber flicker]

Probably just using the steam movie theater thing to play all of my non VR games

Oh

[green crypt]

You can sit but it's not made for sitting it works

[somber flicker]

Yeah

[thorny mason]

whenever i launch oculus it changes my audio to my speakers when it was on my headphones

[honest jetty]

has anyone elses steam vr slowly broken over time? I cant even launch my vive anymore

[steady bear]

Steam has been getting worse for the last 18 months or more when it comes to Vive support from what I've seen with my Vive and the one at my work.

Guys the trick is to buy an Asus strixs GPU at least as of the 10 series they had 2 HDMI ports on high end cards.

[old kite]

Is it wise to wait for ouclous. Quest

[lucid tundra]

I was on the Beta of SteamVR, then switched back, that seemed to work, otherwise you should verify the SteamVR files in SteamVR properties, that also worked for me @honest jetty

[sullen linden]

@old kite depends. Is this a device you plan to travel with or just for home? Do you already have a high end computer?

If it’s for home and you already have a gaming computer, then a quest is a bad purchase. If you want a travel option and you don’t want to buy a gaming pc, the quest is an amazing purchase

[fringe agate]

I got a 3rd rift sensor and it works in oculus games but in steamVr after I did room setup my head is in the ground in steamVR home and tracking doesn’t work

[tardy marsh]

Reinstall steamVR? @fringe agate

[fringe agate]

Ok

But now it doesn’t work in oculus either and I get a request timed out error when I redo sensor setup

[tardy marsh]

You might have to reinstall the Oculus software and if the problem presists you should contact Oculus support

[fringe agate]

Ok thanks @tardy marsh

[tardy marsh]

No problem

[wooden token]

I know this is way late & crazy, but finally bought Superhot after 7 months of gaming on Rift. This has got to be one of those games where years from now, everyone will remember where/when they played Superhot VR for the first time. Killer friggin’ app.

[vague moss]

Uh so, weird question

does anyone have ever tried using a Oculus rift foam on an acer wmr?

because i need to replace it

and nobody sells it in my country

[glossy dew]

@vague moss the oculus rift foam is glued onto a plastic frame so you can just remove the foam on its own

the whole frame then clips into the headset instead of just the foam

might have more luck with just vrcover aftermarket stuff from amazon with international shipping

or double sided velcro tape and make your own padding

[fringe agate]

My 3 sensor oculus setup will always give me request timed out errors when setting up. Dose anyone know a fix

[lament stream]

Oh wow deoxide is here

[rough anvil]

Hey All,

Wasnt sure where on the forum to post beginner level questions regarding my 1st VR Purchase/setup. Can someone point me in the right direction

[twilit sage]

@rough anvil Give us more context. Leaving a "hey I need x can you give me x" doesnt give us info on what you need

[rough anvil]

Where on the forum should i post a question about VR? There isnt a VR sub-forum. But if i can ask it here I can

Or maybe there is a FAQ for VR Newbies like myself?

[tropic oasis]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rough anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/head-scratcher-confused-perplexed-huh-clash-with-cam-gif-10198268

[pure token]

Question about VR. I was thinking of getting the occ rift, and I know people are gonna give me flak for it but all I wanted to know is can I skip the room setup thing where you have to walk around and have the room measure 6ft each way or something

cuz most of the games I'd be playing are sitting down

[twilit sage]

I suggest you still do the setup and disable the walls. @pure token

the setup takes 2 min at most, as you can skip the warnings

@rough anvil ask away, just give me more context on what you need help with.

[pure token]

Understood, thank you 😃

[twilit sage]

On a side note, your profile pic disturbs me

Thanks, I hate it. r/tihi

[rough anvil]

Thanks. So atm i dont have my living room pc setup and it wont be for a few months.

I plan to use it on my gaming pc in my office. So its not as open a space.

Will that be an issue? Im sitting on the fence of htc vive pro

[pure token]

lmaoooooo

It's basically just two buns, you get to choose what goes inside of them

[rough anvil]

Mainly looking to play beat saber atm, but def Looking to play like shooting games etc

[twilit sage]

Vive Pro? Why the pro?

Also I would invest into an oculus if you want to play shooters, as the controllers are way better for it. However, the knuckles should release this year so the Vive isnt too bad of an option either actually.

Unless money isn't an issue the Vive Pro is kind of a waste of money. @rough anvil

[pure token]

I literally just want to play VR Chat

[twilit sage]

I havent played VRchat

[pure token]

That and try out a few other mods like ETS2

[twilit sage]

yet

[pure token]

Like really immerse myself in the actual game

[twilit sage]

I havent had time for VR lately. Been working on this brand guideline in fucking Illustrator the past 2 weeks

[pure token]

Fair enough

[twilit sage]

ETS2 in VR is very good, I played it with my steam controller

[pure token]

I mean I work Monday to Friday in a very large security system company lol

I don't know if I'm going to regret shelling out the money for it even though I know I won't take a hit for it

[twilit sage]

Im at school 9-16 :P

[pure token]

I think I'm just going to put it on my credit card and buy it lol

Lol oh boy

I need to account for the other sensor though, the rear one

[twilit sage]

Heh, yeah do it. Even if you can only play it on weekends its still worth it IMO

I put my 3rd one on another corner

[pure token]

Yeah, that's what I figured

I need to make my room smaller first though

I have a double bed that doesn't help with how small my room is. I need to buy some stuff from Ikea first and then yeet my bed out the window

I'm trying to figure out if this Oculus Rift comes with one or two sensors, I can't find that info

Oh wait no it does and im stupid

[twilit sage]

Rough sketch of my setup

In paint haha

it comes with 2.

[pure token]

So I just need to buy the extra one

[twilit sage]

the only issue with my setup is that I keep smashing my fucking table and im 188cm long

[pure token]

Let me see if I can give you a rough idea of what mine looks like

[twilit sage]

And because im almost 190cm I keep hitting the ceiling

I live on the ground floor of my house, thats a bit under the ground, so the ceiling is very low

But hey it works

[pure token]

It's literally annoying because I have such a big bed

and such a small room

This is essentially what the updated area is gonna look like

[rough anvil]

I could be wrong and just watching reviews but my understanding is the resolution is better and the vive oro is more comfortable

Less motion sickness also

Thats key cause ive personalitty experuenced motion sickness

With the oculos

[pure token]

I don't get motion sickness very easily so it depends. I've used both

[rough anvil]

Is there some information im missing on why i shouldnt get a vive pro

[pure token]

I just feel the $1,699 price tag is rather much

for something that you can buy for $449 and get essentially the same functionality

[torpid kestrel]

ur setup might not be able to handle it

[rough anvil]

Im confident my setup can handle it. Not too worried

It sjust about getting the right VR for what i want

I'd like to be able to grow with my VR setup as well.

[sullen linden]

@twilit sage idk, we’ve been talking about knuckles for probably 2 years now, and they have been focusing on newer HMD’s recently. I feel like HTC will release a newer version of controllers, but not the knuckles

[twilit sage]

@rough anvil the motion sickness part is bullshit imo. All HMDs we've talked about, vive/vive pro/oculus, have OLED panels so response time is the same on all of them.

Why do we think the pro is not worth it? Well, it's priced like shit and HTCs service is just garbage.

It's just higher resolution, built in audio and a bit better tracking than the regular vive

For 1000$ more

And they didn't bother the update the controller design. Just painted the controller 2.0 light blue, put a ridiculous pricetag on it and called it a day.

The new controllers cost 215 euro each, which is about what you pay for a WMR headset with controllers on a sale. That's fucking insane.

[rough anvil]

@twilit sage thank you for the input. Thats valuable

[swift knoll]

Is my pc good enough for vr? Lol

[nocturne idol]

no

[twilit sage]

@swift knoll Nah, your GPU is kinda crap. Get an nvidia GT8800, youre like 6 gens behind smh /s

[fringe agate]

My 3 sensor oculus setup will always give me request timed out errors when setting up. Dose anyone know a fix

[swift knoll]

Dang

I was really hoping to be vr ready

[twilit sage]

@fringe agate no, sorry. Give oculus a ticket or post on r/oculus

However Ill suggest you switch the USB ports around, and try different sensor combos (2 sensors only, and switch em around so like S1 and S2 are in, and then S2 and S3 in and then S1 and S3 to see if its a sensor issue)

[sullen linden]

@swift knoll sorry, while it may seem up to spec, every component in your PC must have the “VR Ready” marketing stamp on it /s

[swift knoll]

ah

yes

[rugged walrus]

also make sure it's Y2K ready

[flint grotto]

i use the vive

[whole fossil]

my pc is only Y3K ready ; (

[twilit sage]

Damn

my pc is Y2KB.C.E Ready

[sullen linden]

my pc is vr ready

[atomic plinth]

my pc isnt but i do it anyways

[upbeat jacinth]

my pc is <bold>using vive already</bold>

oops thats not hop

[tropic oasis]

That's not how it works, bud.

[whole fossil]

<marquee>idk about you but this is the best html element</marquee>

[worldly pollen]

ok so I'm very much considering ordering a Vive. But I only got a GTX 970 which is supposedly the bare minimum, and I'm already using 2 1440p displays. Will that be alright? For stuff like VR chat and Beatsaber for instance

[glossy dew]

gonna struggle

p.s - i just switch out my rift for the Odyssey plus and have to say... the screens are so much better its unreal.

wish Oculus would just release a rift 2.0 finally

[gleaming grove]

Can we have VR LTX organized

[full lotus]

@glossy dew apparently they are working on a slight revision which would basically be a rift with improved optics.

I love my rift, but I tried the oculus go and omfg, the oculus go display and lenses are simply perfect. If they make a rift with the go optics I would snap one up in a heartbeat

[glossy dew]

Yup... same with the odyssey plus... the res. and screens so much better.. but I found the rift fit nicer. Overall it was still a big jump up from the aging rift

[full lotus]

I do like the oddysey. The optics are significantly better. But personally the controllers/inside out tracking and inability to play my two favourite games (echo combat and echo arena) kinda killed It for me.

I am really looking forward to what oculus releases next though!

[lucid tundra]

@worldly pollen I don't see a problem with that, I am using a 1060 3GB for my Vive, while also being hooked up to a 2K monitor and a 900p monitor. I play Beat Saber on High graphics no problem, as well as VRChat. The 1440p monitors don't use much in the way of GPU when they're just on the desktop, so that shouldn't be a problem

[worldly pollen]

okay, thanks

[glossy dew]

I literally only use vr for sim racing now in a proper rig so the odyssey is perfect.... all the positives of the better optics, and none of the negatives as I never use the controllers and the tracking is perfect for seated cockpit driving. but I agree for room scale the rift is much better.

It’s a little like a rift 1.5 for me atm

[full lotus]

@glossy dew Ah yeah if you're doing flight sim/racing sim stuff then the optics and comfort are basically the only factors you need to worry about

[fringe agate]

What is the best vr flight simulator

[sullen linden]

@fringe agate DCS but you have to pay for each sim, I mess around with elite dangerous myself

[tropic bison]

I have the HTC Vive Pro and it's been great. Kinda bummed about the new one from CES this year

[twilit sage]

The EYE? @tropic bison

Don't be, we won't see consumer implementation for quite a while

[whole fossil]

I cant wait for 120hz vr headsets and I really want to mess with eye tracking in UE4

[tropic oasis]

I wasn't aware they were still less than 120Hz, given that 60Hz causes nausea.

[lucid tundra]

Yeah, since they are OLED, they are 90Hz, except PSVR, which is 120Hz, but not OLED

[gleaming grove]

I just want rift ship with better lenses

[whole fossil]

I hope beat saber gets their custom song stuff working so people on ps4 can get more content

[tropic oasis]

PS4? You mean roach motels? Those things are a nightmare to repair... so many roaches... ...

[latent quest]

Yeah but the essential way to keep from roaches getting inside your ps4 is by cleaning your house so roaches dont roost in your home

[tropic oasis]

Cleanest house on Earth has exactly one roach. Scary shit.

[whole fossil]

I have no idea what I feel like doing so im giving unity another chance and porting my UE4 vr game to it lol, already vr dev on unity is kinda weird for me

[twilit sage]

@whole fossil Customs songs are not coming to PS4, ever.

[whole fossil]

well at lest i only own pc vr but sucks for psvr players

[latent quest]

I want an htc vive

But then i realize how terrible htc phones where

[twilit sage]

I love my Rift :p

[whole fossil]

same

dash is 10/10

[latent quest]

I want to play pavlov on it

[whole fossil]

The only games/things i have done with my rift in the past week is Beat Saber and developing my vr game

also some vr chat

[rugged walrus]

don't really see why you want 120Hz headsets when 90 is pretty much fine - you get much more benefit from using that GPU performance on higher resolution

[gleaming grove]

^

[atomic plinth]

I never get motion sickness so I can handle like 60fps in vr, which is good because I have a 1050 ti

[latent quest]

I havent used vr besides google cardboard

[sullen linden]

@rugged walrus ya honestly as much as I love 144hz for esports games on my monitor, I am satisfied with 90hz for VR. I just want to see larger resolutions

[twilit sage]

We can eliminate the need for a higher resolution by using mirrors

[dull coral]

Anyone know the best accurate test to know if your left eye dominant or right? Can’t seem to aim properly on Pavlov without seeing the bullet line and correcting it 😂

[gleaming grove]

Really easy

just use your thumb and index finger and make a ring out of it and put something in middle of the ring and close one eye and see in which eye that thing stays in the ring.

Also 80% of humans are right eye dominant. I am left handed but right eye dominant

[twilit sage]

How do you aim in real life? Pick up a stick and aim as it were a gun without thinking, so do it quick

whichever eye stays open is the dominant

@dull coral

[gleaming grove]

I don't remember now but I think I might have switch hands and then switched hands because I am using my right eye to look through the sight if it is long rage to shoot

[dull coral]

Cheers guys 😉

[rugged walrus]

leftie-righties represent! 😛

[tardy marsh]

When you fire a gun in real life you use your dominant eye to aim but you keep both eyes open

[gleaming grove]

I don't close my second eye even in game when aiming

[sullen linden]

does anyone have a good list of pros and cons of the vive and the oculus?

[carmine ginkgo]

@sullen linden https://www.howtogeek.com/246333/oculus-rift-vs.-htc-vive-which-vr-headset-is-right-for-you/

[sullen linden]

thank you :)

[carmine ginkgo]

Np || @sullen linden ||

[sullen linden]

That post seems very incorrect. it gives them similar minimum specs, but goes out of its way to say Oculus will require more RAM (who doesn't build a pc with at least 8gb for vr these days? ) while Oculus actually has lower minimum specs for CPU/GPU, doesn't mention the Oculus' improvement to tracking with 3 sensors, and notes the Oculus controllers as being slightly better. I like both headsets and think either one is a great choice, but cmon that article is just biased AF @carmine ginkgo

[gentle coral]

As a developer who has used both extensively, and windows MR, I recommend oculus for comfort (best controller). Windows MR for small spaces, or travel with device( simple plug and play). Vive for hardcore dev and gaming (best tracking and dev commuity). Minimum specs I consider useable by all three are (8GB DDR4, GTX 1060 3 GB, 128 GB SSD, I5-7400). We use a trident 3 first gen ($850), and a vive for public vr development in the SF bay area.

16GB really helps, as does a second larger ssd or harddrive, or a 6GB 1060.

Akso take care of your headset, it will start dropping frames way before the computer if you use it a lot. (Our system gets 10,000+ hours of use per year). (We have replaced the cord once, the headstrap 3 times and the face cover 5 times) in less then two years.

[twilit sage]

Is it really just me that closes one eye?

I can't aim with both open

[gleaming grove]

I seem to lose myself when I close one eye

[sullen linden]

I hate that it's a tradeoff between good tracking and comfortable controllers (for now at least). I went with the Vive for tracking reasons, but since I tend to play active games with lots of swinging, I get sore wrists pretty quickly from the bulky controllers.

[teal jacinth]

so far my oculus touch controllers have been a pretty great experience

[sullen linden]

@sullen linden the tracking quality in my experience is indistinguishable between the headsets when the Oculus has a 3rd sensor.

@sullen linden I should have mentioned that I was also interested in the additional body trackers for the vive haha, though those are also surprisingly big.

[twilit sage]

Both HMDs have essentially the same tracking now

Ive had issues with my touch controllers however

But oculus were kind to send me a replacement for free

and pay for shipping

[autumn tangle]

what if i already have a WMR headset?

should i get a htc vive to upgrade?

whenever somethings on a screen with WMR it just thinks im moving and sends me flying

im getting really sick (not literally) of it doing that

[thorny mason]

whats the longest i can run hdmi and usb cables

[sullen linden]

@thorny mason Oculus is more picky with length, however I got 15' working with a repeater for the HDMI

[thorny mason]

wdym repeater

[sullen linden]

@thorny mason type in hdmi repeater on amazon, its a female-female hdmi connector so you can connect one side to the headset and the other side to whatever HDMI cable you have

[thorny mason]

couldnt i just use a female - male hdmi cable

[sullen linden]

@thorny mason My 10' extension cable didnt work and i tried replacing the cable but no luck. Some people have had luck with it but its pretty unpredictable

[twilit sage]

@thorny mason As you might know signal degrades. So no, you cant use an extension for HDMI. 1m might work, however 2m didnt work for me.

Video passthru for two eyes is a lot of data to transfer.

[tardy oriole]

Is this a good vr headset for people new to PC VR?

[valid hare]

Hey. I've got it and it's nice to experience what is all this fuzz about.
Bought it for $240, very cheap, maybe cheapest MixedReality Headset.

@tardy oriole On PC you will need Bluetooth, check Windows Mixed Reality PC Check app from Microsoft Store for compatibility.

[tardy oriole]

I have Bluetooth

It's installed with my wifi card

I don't know if it's 4.0, but I'll have to check later

[valid hare]

Headset has HDMI and USB-A 3.0 cable. Four AA batteries for controlers and your good to go.

[tardy oriole]

Awesome, I just honestly want to know if it's good and recommended for like steamvr titles?

Since I only have one Microsoft Store app and that's Minecraft, which basically the entire planet has

And btw that app is in the portal app on W10

No need for the Windows Store app anymore

[eternal dagger]

pardon is anyone on?

[lucid tundra]

I am, nearly 12 hours after you asked

[sullen linden]

@tardy oriole I wouldnt say recommended, but it will do fine in most steam vr games. The main issue with the WMR options is the controller tracking quality outside of your field of view. I havent used a WMR headset since they first launched, so there could be some further optimization that was made that I don't know of

[gentle coral]

For those who want extended hdmi, you need a powered hdmi extender, or a hdmi to HDBaseT (cat5a cat6) extender. This is what the movie theater industry uses. They are not all that expensive, but make sure it supports full bandwidth HDMI 2.0.

For those who haven't tried WMR headsets, they are decent (smaller play area then rift or vive), tracking and frame rate drops if cable is under tension (there are a few theories why). It is way easier to transport (it actually will work on a plane or in a car if you are fine with controller based games) (and you have enough laptop battery). A much smaller game library (at this time).

[twilit sage]

It isn't a "much smaller" game library. It's about the same by now

[sly night]

Is it worth it to get a 1070 over a 1060 6GB for a vive? it's not much of an upcharge and i don't want to get throttled down the road.

[rugged walrus]

I would say so, yes. It'll be a little smoother in the more demanding games, and let you add some supersampling in less demanding games

[ocean current]

I am happy boy now :)

[lucid tundra]

Very nice indeed, I have the same box in my room right now XD

[latent quest]

Now you can play pavlov

[mossy root]

what is a cheap but good alternative to vive, pc not phone

[twilit sage]

@mossy root ever heard of something called an Oculus Rift or the WMR lineup?

Looks like you have done no prior research by yourself and just came here for help directly.

[gentle coral]

WMR is better if you want portable easy setup, rift if you want exclusive content and larger high detail play area

[sullen linden]

cheapest way to get into PCVR id say is with the HP, acer, or lenovo WMR headsets, they all are decent, and are plug-and play with very little setup.

if you find a used rift or vive around $250 id get that though vs one of these

[mossy root]

kk ty for info bous

*bois

[dusty loom]

ayee bois I hit up my boy Craig and got a "barely used" Vive with the audio upgrade and TPcast for $350. So far I have it all running flawlessly over the stock cable. The guy had it running wirelessly at his house so I'mma figure that out later after I screw the lighthouses in the ceiling.

[magic bobcat]

350 for a Vive with TPcast is a pretty good deal, grats!

[rugged walrus]

with the strap and TPcast that is indeed a great deal

[dusty loom]

i was really lucky. when i looked on Craigslist, the post was less than 40min old. I messaged the dude at 1am just to make sure he would hold it for me at his asking price.

[dusty salmon]

Guys can i get a 10% off code for the rift? I live in europe

[sullen linden]

@dusty salmon I have one but it won’t let me pm

[dusty loom]

@sullen linden in steam VR setup, for seated use it still had the box in the pictures

[ivory parrot]

Good deals

Wait where is tpcast router

[dusty loom]

it was in the Madrinas box i shoved everything into with the other cables. it is literally a regular router with a custom SSID and WPA key other than that bog standard... The giant ANKER battery and USB reciever are also included as well as lighthouses

[tardy marsh]

On my rift it randomly freezes, continues the audio and then it shuts down my whole computer, but all my lights are still on. H e l p. Usually when I hard reset it and boot it up, wattman tells me that it reset due to a system failure. I have no OC on my GPU (RX 580 4GB) and a 4.2 oc on my R5 2600X

Its probably a gpu problem lmao

[dusty loom]

update drivers? idk, that's what i would start with

[teal jacinth]

Oh jikes

That doesnt look very healthy lmao

Try starting with reinstalling the oculus software, since sometimes it kinda commits supuku

[tardy marsh]

I already reinstalled the Oculus software and did a clean install of my drivers. Nothing is working 😭

[twilit sage]

Reinstall windows as a last resort

[tardy marsh]

I did that as well

[twilit sage]

rip your gpu

[thorny mason]

can i run ethernet for my oculus instead

so i can run it 40 metre

[twilit sage]

pardon?

[thorny mason]

ethernet to hdmi

[twilit sage]

I dont think so

anything above 15m is already beyond HDMI spec

Besides, what madman are you to be using 40m extensions?

[thorny mason]

room to living room

i have .5^2 for play area

[twilit sage]

Have you thought about the sensors?

[thorny mason]

ethernet - usb

[twilit sage]

youre going to be dealing with some latency at this length

oh

Well

No ones really done it yet

So youre in uncharted waters

[thorny mason]

what about 20 meters

[twilit sage]

As I said, anything over 10m is risky

Watch Linus' video about the invisible oculus setup

he got like 15m or so, I dont remember

[thorny mason]

link?

[twilit sage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1vu4no-EtE

you couldve googled you know :P

[thorny mason]

too lazy

[mossy root]

wait, is it possible to remove the included headphones that come with the rift?

wait nvm found it out myself lol

[twilit sage]

Hahha

The stick you get is just for that

[teal jacinth]

My graphics card only has 1 hdmi port, my monitor and my oculus require one. Would there be away to get around this ?

Since it does have 3 dp ports and one usb-c

[gleaming grove]

Shouldn't be

unless you get an adaptor for the monitor

[teal jacinth]

Does a adaptor introduce any negatives performance wise ?

Since i don't really know

[haughty acorn]

In theory, no.

[lucid tundra]

I'm using an HDMI to DVI cable, at 75Hz with my second monitor, with no visible issues

[surreal tide]

So my Mixed Reality headset broke and I'm trying to decide between getting the Rift, Vive or just another Mixed Reality headset

[haughty acorn]

If you're planning on gaming, I'd go with the rift. Good roomscale and vastly better controllers.

[twilit sage]

@surreal tide Have you tried warranty repair?

[surreal tide]

I got it used last year, it's way out of warranty

[twilit sage]

WMR didnt launch 3 years ago, did it?

It should still be under warranty

Warranty is 2 years IIRC

[surreal tide]

I got the Dell Visor so idk

[twilit sage]

The dell visor came out in 2017

October 1st to be specific

It should be under warranty

Unless you did something stupid

[surreal tide]

No I didn't

I'll check it out

[sullen linden]

@teal jacinth is it a regular 60hz monitor w/o freesync? If so, nothing will be different with an adapter

[surreal tide]

I couldn't get around getting a warranty repair

[stable valley]

whats the ideal spec for vr

[twilit sage]

There is none. Depends on the game.

[gleaming grove]

2080ti + 9900k

I am not kidding BTW

[twilit sage]

No, thats if you have a PiMax 5k or something

[strange tusk]

Really just depends on games yeah

[twilit sage]

Games and what HMD hes rockin

[surreal tide]

I have an r3 1200 and a 1050ti and that runs most games fine

Except for very demanding games like fallout 4

With full 1440 x 1440 res

I think

[strange tusk]

I have a 1080 and a i7 6700k

[fading forge]

I have a 2070 and a 9600k. That drives my odyssey+ perfectly.

[dusty loom]

no matter what you use, you will still get <45 FPS in a crowded VRChat room. RIP Unity engine

[gentle coral]

Hololense 2 is now officially announced

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/story/microsoft-hololens-2-headset/amp

[twilit sage]

Oooo hot damn!

[gleaming grove]

Does anyone know if I want to play VR on a laptop there are 2 USB 3.0 ports and 1 USB Type C 3.1 port how would I connect an oculus rift to it with the sensors? Should I but something to plug into USB type C connector? Would there be any problems with a dongle?

[twilit sage]

Dont use hubs

You will most likely need a VIVE link box

[gleaming grove]

Why not? Not enough power delivery or latency?

[twilit sage]

Not enough USB ports and possibly power issues.

[gleaming grove]

well was thinking to only connect one sensor to that hub and nothing else

So bacily using the hub as an adaptor from USB c to USB 3.0

[twilit sage]

...I dont know how well that would work

But laptops can have power delivery issues

[gleaming grove]

yeah but the lap top is marked as VR ready so it should know how to handle that right?

[twilit sage]

I guess

[gentle coral]

Get a type c to USB 3.0 converter or dongle, it should work. LINK box is not for rift. Try with a few different combinations.

I have never had power issues and I have overseen (vive, oculus, WMR) vr headset connected to 20 different vr ready laptops

[twilit sage]

@gentle coral You're wrong about the link box. It was designed with every VR headset in mind, it can be used with literally ANYTHING

If he wants a three sensor setup he will have to get a link box

What does it do you ask? It essentially provides power to the HMD from the wall instead of the latop, while still using its HDMI connection

Please do more research next time, just because its called a VIVE link box doesnt mean its not universal

[gleaming grove]

I am doing a 2 sensor setup

On a budget

[sullen linden]

hao 2 make game run two screens 4 vr

[ivory parrot]

Go for at least 3

Also u kinda can run sensors off a powered hub

I did

Just keep headset on a dif one

The hub got super hot though

I also used laptop

[gleaming grove]

I don't have budget for 3rd sensor right now and I am okay with 2 right now. Will try in a future ofc when I get some cash.

[ivory parrot]

Roomscale is very fun

[gleaming grove]

yeah I do it

but I am in dorm now and the room is very small but want to still have some fun

[spark wasp]

My friend let me experience VR in his bedroom the other day. He has a proper oculus setup (with the 3 sensor things) and I've fallen for VR. gonna get an oculus setup.

Anything I should know before buying into VR? I've looked at the vive, and as nice as it is, I'd like something lighter (like the rift) and more importantly, something cheaper (like the rift.)

[turbid bloom]

@spark wasp Windows MR

[spark wasp]

@turbid bloom im not looking for mixed reality

[lucid tundra]

@spark wasp What are your PC's specs?

[turbid bloom]

@spark wasp there's nothing "mixed" about Windows MR. It's VR.

[gleaming grove]

@turbid bloom Why did windows make us go through this with so many people 😦

[spark wasp]

@turbid bloom @lucid tundra sorry for the late response, discord didn't shoot a notification.
My PC specs consist of 16gb memory, AMD 1700x cpu and a GTX 1070. The mobo, if that's important, is a MSI B350 Tomahawk.

Then why is it called MR? Lol I don't know much about windows MR but I know there isn't much content out for it, does it work like the rift and vice?

[gleaming grove]

They just named it like that for sake of naming it. Very stupid name. -_-

[spark wasp]

Ah

Seeing it on amazon, I notice there are no towers. Is the tracking good on the MR?

[gleaming grove]

You need a lit up room to play in

And your controlers won't track when they are behind you or outside of your FOV

[spark wasp]

Ha

Forget MR

[turbid bloom]

I got my Lenovo Explorer for 200 USD

Was probably the cheapest good VR experience

[spark wasp]

I don't mind paying for better tracking

[turbid bloom]

Then Rift or Vive would be the only other option

Also all windows MR headsets work with Steam VR

Need to download a small program from the Steam Store created by Microsoft to enable the functionality

It's a bit inconvenient to launch Steam VR though.

[surreal tide]

Is VorpX really the only way to play nonvr games in vr?

[sullen linden]

@surreal tide I use an app in the Oculus store called Bigscreen and you just change the surrounding environment to your liking and it can show your monitor or any application. There are many ways to do it

[surreal tide]

I know there are programs like that, but I mean being able to play with head tracking and stuff

[lucid tundra]

As far as I know, VorpX is the only real, functional way to do it, there are others, but they don't hold a candle to it, and they still cost money

[twilit sage]

@spark wasp @gleaming grove you don't need a lit room for WMR, y'all really should do your research.

[gleaming grove]

ah

[twilit sage]

@spark wasp WMR has about as much content as everything else

[spark wasp]

im not going to buy WMR, im getting the rift for the better tracking & my friend has one too so if I ever have problems I got someone who can help out

[twilit sage]

Only older unupdated apps are not supported

The tracking is identical, the only thing WMR doesnt do is track when your hands are behind you

Both oculus and valve are moving to inside out tracking with next gen, the sensors are going away

Oculus however has excellent customer support

@spark wasp if you have problems the Internet is right at your fingertips

[surreal tide]

You do need some light for wmr

[twilit sage]

You can still play in darkness though

[surreal tide]

My headset won't track at all if my lights aren't on

[twilit sage]

However it won't work as well

Oh really? Weird.

[surreal tide]

I mean, it can't do positional tracking

[twilit sage]

They use low res camera that should see in very low light

Ah well

But yeah a more lit room is always better for inside out

[surreal tide]

Yeah

[twilit sage]

And since I'm in Scandinavia I needed an oculus

My winters are very dark

And I don't like using the room light

[ivory parrot]

Go rift

Its great

3 sensor is must

[surreal tide]

I would but sensor placement might be a problem

[ivory parrot]

What do u mean

[twilit sage]

He means sensor placement might be a problem

[wraith oak]

So why does the vive have a usb passthrough on it?

USB headphones I guess?

[remote spoke]

I'm planning on using a 1060 the for my first pc and I was wondering if it would be good for budget VR?

[cerulean harbor]

yeah, I run a 1060 with the vive and it runs fine

not sure how it would go with high intensity games as i've only run things like job simulator and the lab

I only got 30-45 fps when running gta v max settings in vr

my 1060 is the 6 gb version

[twilit sage]

@remote spoke get an RTX2060 or GTX1660

Well, don't get the GTX1660 actually, same price as the 2060 and its worse

[remote spoke]

Ok @twilit sage. Thanks for the advice

[twilit sage]

The 1060 is fine but it's a older gen card now

[sly dust]

You can run even with older cards as long you got 3gb vram at minimum. You may need to lower resolution.
I played vr with gtx 660 for two years. It was a bit hassle with only 2gb vram :P

[rugged walrus]

bad idea to run with anything less than a 1050 Ti, unless you like nausea

but a 1060 is fine, most VR games are designed to run well with that kind of hardware

[gleaming grove]

I played on my 1070ti but will try to play on 1030 next week for science 🤔 👌

[cerulean harbor]

good luck

[surreal tide]

Didn't Low Spec Gamer do that?

[gleaming grove]

Yes he did. So I want to try it on my oculus since my pc is not here ATM

[surreal tide]

Ah ok

[void grove]

https://youtu.be/tnH2RQaTTYc

[sand anvil]

Bet it's about the same as holding up a phone to your face as well

[tropic oasis]

So, painful.

[whole fossil]

I mean most phones have a greater resolution than 720p so I would rather deal with phone vr than switch vr.

[hushed pond]

here a amazing thing that hapened to me today

not even vr can escape this

[deft crater]

😂

[void grove]

[upbeat needle]

Recently my VR controllers (Oculus touch) started lagging in Beat saber, which is rather problematic as I play some pretty fast levels. I have tried to uninstall and re-install everything and it hasn't worked. [My rig is 2 sensors in front, and I run beat saber from steam through the oculus app]

[sand anvil]

@upbeat needle There is a thing with the touch controllers where the stop working if you move them too fast, I've heard some people fix the issue by adding a second spring in the battery compartment for more tension.

[gleaming grove]

@upbeat needle How old is your oculus just out of curiosity

[upbeat needle]

@gleaming grove 6 or 7 months

[sand anvil]

Does anyone with a rift get bluescreens when they turn on Virtual desktop pullout inside of the VR?

I turn on mine and I will get blue screens anytime I try to enter VR and it won't go away until I uninstall and delete the appdata folders for the oculus software

[autumn tangle]

what are your pc specs

you know its pretty hard to mirror your desktop in vr

[sand anvil]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xcVt29

That's the parts list, I was assuming it was crashing the display scaling. When I turn the option on my desktop wallpaper stretches significantly

[autumn tangle]

not very sure about that

its a pretty good system... maybe rift doesn't like 3 moniters?

and yes i get bluescreens on wmr but they kinda just restart wmr

[high timber]

anyone played final assault

[fringe agate]

Nintendo switch vr or vive pro with rtx2080 and i9 9900k 😂😂

[gleaming grove]

Nintendo

😂

[fringe agate]

Oh sorry dual rtx titans

[sullen linden]

@autumn tangle rift doesnt have an issue with 3 at least for me

[autumn tangle]

oh

then something is up

[sullen linden]

idk how rift does with crossfire, might be something with that

[sand anvil]

I thought I eas tje only person on the planet with this issue since I couldn't find information about it anywhere.

I don't think it's the dual GPU since I have no games that use them in VR... except steam VR home for some reason

[gentle coral]

All current tethered VR headsets have one or two bugs when it comes to sli or crossfire implementations. Emailing the game devs sometimes can get you easy answers. (Its more complicated then it should be at this point, but that's mainly due to inefficient developer tools).

[sullen linden]

@sand anvil Are you seeing an orange light on the top of the headset? any device issues in the "Devices" Tab (Oculus software)?

[sand anvil]

I haven't looked at the devices tab, but the headset does have the orange light. It works normally as long as long as the virtual desktop option is not turned on.

I'm going to sit down and mess with a couple of settings and see if I can figure out what's causing it.

[autumn tangle]

wait the headset has lights?

they need to add rgb underglow

[raven mist]

Hah, going 2005 with neon lights on HMDs

[twilit sage]

Lmao

[fringe agate]

I’m on rift and sensor setup just doesn’t work I get request timed out errors or that I have bad sensor connection errors anyone know a fix? Btw I have 3 sensors

[twilit sage]

Are you using a hub?

Is your USB bus overloaded?

[fringe agate]

I’m not using a hub but let me make sure I have all the sensors on different controllers

[sand anvil]

I get that sometimes. Sometimes force closing all oculus programs in TM and relaunching it works, if not a system restart always does

[twilit sage]

reinstalling works too

btw one day after setting up my rift at home after a LAN party, once in dash it notified that one of the sensors is malfunctioning

Same day I tried vivecraft, which crashed randomly. I quickly peeked at the SteamVR tray, and noticed one of the sensors disappeared when VC crashed

But that was just on that day, ive never had that notification since

Testing the sensors one by one by covering 2 and seeing of the one that is left if it still tracks resulted in no finds

[gentle coral]

Make sure you have the oculus rift patch (search oculus rift patch), there is only one, and it can fix quite a few issues with the tracking and connectivity issues.

[twilit sage]

ive not had any tracking issues

its just that the warning appeared that one time

And vivecraft just crashed at random

I havent tested vivecraft since that day however

[gentle coral]

Every once in a while I'll find a Rift headset that needs the patch, and it sounds similar to the issues you are describing. For some reason it is not directly part of the oculus rift software download.

[twilit sage]

Played a bit of Pavlov and Beat Saber though

huh, weird. Thanks, will check it out when im home

[gentle coral]

I really need to talk to some oculus employees about the issue as it has not seemed to go away with subsequent updates, every few headsets seem to need the patch even if the oculus is brand new and has the most recent software.

Hopefully rift S and Quest dont have these problems since they use different tracking.

Most of these past comments are for @fringe agate but many people dont seem to know about the rift patch, and it helps tremendously if you are playing on laptop.

And it seems like a few people here have had the same set of problems.

[sullen linden]

@gentle coral they have a support chat if you need to talk to them, but I doubt more than 25% of rift users have had an issue occur right out of the box, that would be shitty QC

[warm bolt]

So which HMD do yall think I should upgrade too, moving from Samsung odyssey HMD. Don't like the tracking....

[dusty salmon]

guys should i buy budget cuts or job simulator?

[green crypt]

job sim is nice haven played budget cuts so can say my opinion

job sim is good if you have people comming over who havent played vr

[surreal tide]

Whats up with the rift being out of stock?

[lucid tundra]

@dusty salmon Budget Cuts all the way, I've played through both, and I find Budget Cuts to be better, though you beat the game in about 3 hours of playtime

[gentle coral]

@warm bolt wait a few weeks, a lot of new headsets are about to release (GDC next week)

@sullen linden I know they have a support chat but as a dev I prefer asking the actual software team directly when I see them at GDC or oculus events.

@dusty salmon both are great games, I have more time in job simulator, but the mechanics of budget cuts are better if you like stealth and action games, job simulator is exactly what it sounds like.

[dusty salmon]

i will buy budget cuts

[sullen linden]

good idea

sell me some if you can

[rugged walrus]

for those who haven't seen it yet

https://uploadvr.com/oculus-email-rift-s/

not official confirmation, but looks pretty solid

[surreal tide]

I hope so

They gotta do something if theyre taking the rift out of stock

[twilit sage]

I REALLY hope that they dont use inside out

I dont like it at all

@gentle coral Can you DM me the patch?

[narrow root]

Can I change my name in rec room After Making an Account?

[lucid tundra]

Yes

You can change it as much as you like, but with an interval in between

[gentle coral]

https://www.oculus.com/rift-patch/

I think multiple people in this chat might need it at some point. Though the software is about to go through quite a few updates to prepare for rift S.

Rift S will use inside out, and I can already say that it is a very good implementation compared to WMR.

[gentle coral]

For people who are interested in some of the upcoming VR technologies I am giving a 10 hour Pre GDC talk later today (Sunday March 17th).

If you are in the bay area you can come watch, but if not it will be livestreaming to twitch and YouTube.

Event page is
https://www.meetup.com/noisebridge/events/259110997/

Livestream links are in event description.

Hope you guys find it interesting

[sly night]

Inside out tracking seems less precise at the sacrifice of ease of setup, let's hope the next gen (or at least Vive) has some sense to keep the current functionality for performance junkies.

[rugged walrus]

inside-out tracking isn't less precise, it just has limited tracking FOV

[gleaming grove]

I hate to keep my hands in front of me

[azure mortar]

Its not as bad as you might think

I dont have to many issues with my Ody+ other than if I get too close to the headset

[rugged walrus]

and the Quest has even wider tracking FOV

[azure mortar]

I think the quest will be a solid headset

[rugged walrus]

as long as it can handle stuff like drawing a bow, I don't mind if it can't track me scratching my butt 😄

[azure mortar]

I feel like the bow thing must be different person to person as I dont have any issues with bows but some of my buddies using my same setup have had issues

I think some people try to pull back further than would be humanly possible in real life and it causes issues

Another thing people dont realize is that it does attempt to learn from your motions and will get better at tracking the controllers outside your view with time

[rich briar]

do you think a 2060 in a laptop is enough for vr

[gleaming grove]

It is way more then enough

[rich briar]

Im looking at the MSI GS65 and its the 2060 or 2070max-q for 400 more

this would be my daily traveler but also my main while im overseas for the next year

[rich briar]

I guess my other option is spend teh 400 on a razer blade advanced for the better thermal and build quality

[gentle coral]

The main issue I have found for inside out is that there is a superhot vr achievement for shooting two characters that are directly behind you. Vive and rift are fine, WMR has issues with it to say the least.

Also, almost 4 hours through my livestream, its going good, the next section (software) starts at 230 pm.

[twilit sage]

I made a gun stock

And it works surprisingly well

The tubes I used are 40mm, plus 2 TP rolls

The tape on the back is actually a pillow filled with cotton, covered in tape haha

Tested out in contractors VR with my go to rifle, AK5C, and it fit almost perfectly

[sullen linden]

Friends-

#1- Should I invest in a vr headset now, or get one when prices drop? Honestly the prices seem kinda high rn.
#2- Think an Oasis-type thing is ever gonna happen?

[broken horizon]

i'm in the same boat, i'm not dying for a VR set right now so i'm just gonna wait it out

[azure mortar]

I kept waiting for a long time but I was glad when I pulled the trigger got the Odyssey+ no regrets

[gentle coral]

Wait tell after GDC this week will change a lot of the discussion about upcoming VR

[twilit sage]

Either wait until after GDC or buy now

TBH WMR headsets are very cheap atm

[green crypt]

Vr is worth it and vrchat is the closest thing to the oasis. If your pc can handle vr ofcours spec wise

[sleek topaz]

i have a question

[rugged walrus]

@sleek topaz what is your question

good news, by the way: https://www.roadtovr.com/openxr-0-9-provisional-release-microsoft-oculus-collabora-implementations/

[twilit sage]

Ooooo

[gentle coral]

OpenXR still needs s lot of work but the community of developers is quite interesting to work with.

I'll let people here know about interesting VR things at GDC over the week

[sleek topaz]

Google should make an plugin for all vr games to support ARCORE

Even if it's not built in the game

Some kind of overlay

[sturdy hazel]

That would be a bit of a pain for them, don't you think?

[sullen linden]

what headset should a person get htc or oculus

[rugged walrus]

Rift tends to be a better choice than Vive, but they're both good

but wait a few days, Oculus might announce a refresh of the Rift at GDC

[gleaming grove]

I could probably easily sell my rift right now on for 100$ profit

[twilit sage]

@sullen linden I would really suggest you watch reviews and decide for yourself, but personally I would recommend a rift.

[sullen linden]

Ok thanks guys

[rigid pendant]

VIVE VR here is expensive

[twilit sage]

Why are the EU prices so inflated

Oculus only inflated them by 30ish eur for the HMD

in the EU

This is like the main reason behind why I didnt buy a Vive. The price is horrible and the customer service is meh

[surreal tide]

Hecks

I wonder how much the rift s is gonna be

[gleaming grove]

Is Oculus Rift now a collectors item? also does anyone know if I can connect my monitor to the integrated GPU while connecting the headset to the main GPU?

[void grove]

https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/20/the-oculus-rift-s-is-indeed-real-and-arrives-in-spring-for-399/

I'm not sure how to feel about this.

It's basically quest for pc from what i can tell.

[gleaming grove]

"improved lenses" was very needed change

[void grove]

Ah...

https://youtu.be/3vPz9KFXWTk

[twilit sage]

Idk man

I will keep my rift

I dont like inside out tracking

[void grove]

Eh, i think it would be worth it if you don't already have a VR headset. like me

[rugged walrus]

yeah this is not quite something you'd want to upgrade to from an original Rift, but it's a good VR headset

I do hope it drops in price over time though

[void grove]

The most concerning part is the drop to 80hz, will that matter or is it too minimal to notice, especially if you've only had little experience with VR.

[surreal tide]

If they really wanted to appeal to people with lower end systems they could just let you change the refresh rate in settings

[void grove]

True

[surreal tide]

I was planning on getting a rift but nope gotta take them out of stock before the new one even launches

[gleaming grove]

Now would be the best time to my rift

[surreal tide]

Hmm

I'll probably just get a Samsung oddysey :/

[void grove]

[void sky]

I welcome the less cumbersome design.
No USB sensors, no crappy insane input requirements. Yes please and at a awesome launch price.
I imagine the price will drop and this will help VR adoption rates in a big way.
A major player with a super cheap (after the price drops in a year or so) and easy solution is a good thing for the VR economy IMO.

And Passthrough+ is enough on it's own to make me buy one for myself to replace my rift.
I am prone to sickness (getting better but it still hits me occasionally) and I can imagine some AWESOME motion sickness prevention tricks using Passthrough+ if it is available via the API.

[atomic plinth]

Funny thing is that design has been out for a while. People said wmr tracking sucked but now both Oculus and htc are doing similar. I have wmr and tracking is fine lol

[rugged walrus]

Rift S has 5 tracking cameras, wmr only has 2

[twilit sage]

The rift S is very much a downgrade imo

LCD from OLED

80hz vs 90

No headphones

Inside out

[void grove]

I'm tempted to get the Rift S just because of the inside out.

Mainly because I don't feel like having to calibrate the device every time i want to use it

Or mount the sensors to the wall

[atomic plinth]

Inside out on the wmr works fine, so I'm sure the s will work very well

[gentle coral]

Due to the 5 camera setup it has a really close to perfect tracking ability (unless you're hands are behind your back it will know where they are for the most part) and due to kinematics modeling it has a really high chance of predicting where your hands are based on the last place it saw them and where you physical can move them.

It's also funny they reversed and went back to one panel like the dev kits. But all in all this screen is not an upgrade it is just trying to match everything else out now and not trying to improve in any way which is stupid (especially if you know the screens we have now in this space. (Sony ECX339A in an array would be my current favorite). Even the galaxy s9 has a better screen.

It not having eye tracking is a real issue though (10 dollars in hardware at their scale and a few hundred hours of dev) and you could allow higher end games on lower tier systems.

I like that they took off the on ear headphones and moved to directed sound, as the on ear headphones sucked and unless they are going to put full over ear headphones on the headset, I think it makes sense for the user to be able to choose what headphones they want.

I am sad about the headstrap design, but some people like it, and it is easier to adjust. But I have tried beta vr headsets that have more comfortable strap designs then any I have seen from big VR companies.
If tuned correctly Panasonics vr headset clamp design would be very comfortable.
And the idealens is still the most comfortable headset I have ever tried (and due to the design you could fit headphones on before the headset.)

Back to rift S This article puts it best
https://www.google.com/amp/s/techcrunch.com/2019/03/20/hands-on-with-the-oculus-rift-s-the-s-stands-for-subpar/amp/

I could riff for hours on the issues HTC and Oculus have been making but I'll wait tell I publish my rant on crappy VR device design, and good ideas for the future.

[green crypt]

normal rift will be more worth i feel

[gleaming grove]

I don't agree with you on the headphones thing at all. What was stopping people from using any headset previously?

[atomic plinth]

The s9 uses the same type or revolution as the pannel on the rift s

Both 1440p

[abstract grove]

And I just completed my vive set from ebay parts

[rugged walrus]

@gentle coral the Rift's on-ear headphones are awesome, wtf

anyway, I don't expect the Rift S to stay at $399

if it lets them go to $299 or even lower, the tradeoffs begin to make a lot of sense

[boreal scroll]

I just got my Rift Tuesday and the news of the Rift S dropped yesterday. Lmfao

From what it looks like, the new rift isn't anything super special over the previous version which is kind of saddening.

[rugged walrus]

it's the Rift S, not the Rift 2 (or Rift Pro)

[surreal tide]

That's understandable but they're discontinuing the original rift for it

[gleaming grove]

Time to sell my rift for 800$

[void grove]

Is there a better headset for the price of the CV1/S?

[boreal scroll]

The Rift S, is essentially the rift 2.

Think of it as an xbox one

Xbox one, xbox one s, xbox one x

[void grove]

I know, but I was wondering if there was another headset around the same price that might be better.

[boreal scroll]

I doubt it for the same price...

But the regular Rift which is 50 bucks cheaper than the rift s is amazing.

You might be able to get windows MR for a bit cheaper. But I wasnt a big fan of it.

[broken horizon]

has anyone tried the samsung odyssey? I heard the biggest issue is comfort

[void grove]

and the controllers

[boreal scroll]

I have

Comfort was fine, it had a lot of padding, it's just that it was so heavy that it caused a lot of neck strain.

[broken horizon]

what do you think a good price for one would be?

[broken horizon]

would you guys choose a Rift over an odyssey?

[gentle coral]

@rugged walrus (the real problem is that they are on ear which is the worst type of headphone setup for immersive VR, though the directed sound is just as bad.
(The reason it is bad is specifically because the isolation is terrible, which means that outside sounds can affect your immersion, and there is a higher chance of nausea due to vertigo when doing some games.)

All the current headsets have this issue though, not just rift

[sullen linden]

@broken horizon if it’s something you plan to use often, you should get a rift. The WMR is a nice option to plug and play, but you are compromising on comfort (subjective), controllers, and tracking quality. Also I prefer the rift ecosystem and like most of the exclusive games in their store.

[broken horizon]

I found a Rift second hand, it's cheaper than an Odyssey i also found so i guess i should go for the rift. Thanks for the input. My only worry is the crappy customer service in case something breaks

[atomic plinth]

I got a used wmr, amazing headset, brdt purchase, I like it better than a vive which I have also tried

[boreal scroll]

Oculus customer service was great for me.

[surreal tide]

Rip

[void grove]

Yeah, they also removed it from the official site

[surreal tide]

Yeah

[boreal scroll]

Wait, they removed it from the official site?

[surreal tide]

I feel like they did it so that they wouldn't have to lower the price when the s comes out or something

Yeah

[boreal scroll]

Damn, I feel lucky that I got it two days before that happened then. Lol

[surreal tide]

It sucks

They could have at least waited until they released the S

[boreal scroll]

Yeah, very true.

Is it just me, or does it seem like the Cv1 rift is better than the S?

[surreal tide]

It isn't just you

The downgraded screen, lcd, inside out tracking (which is good and bad), software ipd adjustment

It's pretty much a slightly better wmr headset imo

[boreal scroll]

Yeah.

I also prefer the look of the cv1

It looks more refined.

[surreal tide]

Yeah

I was gonna get one but on Amazon its like $600

And I might as well just get a Samsung oddysey

[boreal scroll]

Is there not a used version on craigslist or something?

[surreal tide]

Possibly

[boreal scroll]

If you plan on playing Vr a lot, I'd recommend getting a used rift. Plus it might be cheaper.

[surreal tide]

Yeah

But I could get a refurbished oddysey for $300

[boreal scroll]

Hmmm, that's not bad. But dont forget about the compatibility and exclusives.

[surreal tide]

Revive is a thing

So I would be able to play rift games

[boreal scroll]

True.

See if you can get a used rift for less than $300, and if not, get the Oddysey

Because I've tried both and I prefer the rift for the long term run.

[surreal tide]

Alright

[boreal scroll]

Yeah. In the end, vr is going to be fun no matter headset.

[surreal tide]

Right

I have had the Dell visor for like a year before it broke

[boreal scroll]

It broke in a year? Damn

[surreal tide]

Yeah

I got it used tho so

[boreal scroll]

Oh

[green crypt]

I have hp wmr it broke in 6 months but i got a new one that works now becouse warranty. Feels bad having 2 dead headsets and 1 working one

[broken horizon]

used Rift for $285, does that sound good?

[boreal scroll]

Yeah

As long as it's in good condition

[gleaming grove]

As long as it's working

[strong wedge]

The Rift is underrated imo

[ivory parrot]

Rift is great

[broken horizon]

cool, got a rift on its way

[gentle coral]

While at a GDC VR roundtable discussion yesterday called, ( Breaking Down Socioeconomic Boundaries to Ubiquitous AR/VR Roundtable (Presented by IGDA)), a lot of us talked about the price issue and how the new rift S is not worth the price. And the few Oculus people there were extremely surprised by us saying 399 is not accessible to many people (a large number of the people at the roundtable were from contries, or cities that have way lower income then LA or SF, or really anywhere where oculus is located) Guess people at oculus have been drinking a bit to much Facebook punch. And there are still a ton of people, who hate VR because the only thing they tried is Google cardboard videos and they think that is all VR can do.

[twin flax]

I am very excited about the new Oculus Rift S! Was going to get on for flight sim, now I will wait

[gentle coral]

If any one here tried the Rift S at GDC, I'd love to hear your opinion, I'm trying it soon, but I still cant make any final judgment on the exact quality of the Quest or Rift S.

[sullen linden]

@broken horizon oculus is probably the only good CS in vr right now. I had my dog chew the cable on my headset and they sent a new one free the same week. Just check the vive subreddit and see the CS horror stories

[gentle coral]

I agree with @sullen linden about customer service at Oculus being quite good, and there often being problems at HTC.

Though developer relations has issues at both places.

There is a reason magic leap gave more talks at GDC then the other two companies combined. And its dev relations.

[broken horizon]

the first time i ever tried VR was at a VR cafe in korea, all they had were Vives so i'm nostalgic about wanting to own a Vive but it's great hearing good news about Oculus

[void sky]

My opinion has changed on the Rift S, I was all for it but now I'm holding off.

the tldr; is:
• Developers cannot take advantage of Passthrough+ [1]
• The LCD screen has noticeable color depth differences [2]
• It is better than Rift IMO so I wouldn't hesitate if I didn't already own a Rift.
• It is not intended to be a Rift 2 it seems. I look forward to their next flagship.

[1]: This is the main reason, I am hoping they are just holding off so they can build a framework for Oculus hand tracking + passthrough + custom object detection(?) in the Rift 2 rather then letting developers build a half baked framework that becomes popular.

[2]: This is a minor detail, honestly not a big deal and almost a balanced trade-off for the benefits IMO.

[gentle coral]

My friend got to try a lot more headsets then I did this year at GDC, and I think his article sums up a lot of the pros and cons of Oculus new hardware.

https://medium.com/silicon-valley-global-news/while-the-oculus-quest-rules-the-oculus-rift-s-sucks-and-is-overpriced-at-399-21d6f56381f1

Even though the headset space seems to be going through a bit of confusion, and the dev space is having trouble (not all that many big VR games are being made right now), the peripheral and generally immersive tech industry is getting quite interesting with low cost full body motion capture, eye tracking, biosensor feedback and haptic systems getting very close to consumer costs. (Still a year or so out but at this point you can grab any one of those for about $800 (will drop down soon))

[twilit sage]

My verdict on the Rift S is that if you own a rift, don't buy it. Wait for rift 2. If you're looking to jump into VR, the Rift S is perfect if you dont need mechanical IPD or behind-your-back tracking

[gleaming grove]

@twilit sage why not just buy a WMR headset?

[azure mortar]

@gleaming grove I think you should unless tracking means more to you then the quality of the image

[rugged walrus]

that article seems like a typical internet overreaction

it's crap at $399 but good at $299? 🤔

[surreal tide]

That kinda makes sense tho

[rugged walrus]

not really, it's exaggerated

if it's good at $299, it's not gonna be crap at $399

[azure mortar]

unless if at the price point of $399 you could buy something better

Like I got my O+ for $299.99 albeit on sale and was watching the Rift S to see if it would be worth an upgrade but it doesnt appear to be an upgrade

[rugged walrus]

Odyssey+ costs more than Rift S and is unavailable in most countries

[azure mortar]

but mine cost less when I bought it at launch

[surreal tide]

The odyssey+ is 400 on Amazon rn

[rugged walrus]

Rift S will get discounts too

[azure mortar]

it was 299.99 at launch

[rugged walrus]

it was $499 at launch

[azure mortar]

well since I bought mine the month it launched from sammys website for $299.99 I dont believe you LOL

[surreal tide]

Still, the only upsides I can see are tracking, controllers and oculus exclusives

[rugged walrus]

again, that's a discount, the launch price was $499

[azure mortar]

No such thing as Oculus exclusives

[rugged walrus]

and you can't seriously believe the Rift S will never go on sale

[azure mortar]

no it probably will

[surreal tide]

Not until a long while after launch tho

[azure mortar]

wish they wouldnt have gone with the LCD screens despite the reduction in pixel gap

[rugged walrus]

would have been nice if they could have used the same panels as the Quest

[surreal tide]

I just wish they didn't discontinue the original rift so soon...

[azure mortar]

@rugged walrus yes the same panels as the quest would have been much better for the more expensive also need a decent gaming pc one

It is important to note though that there are no exclusives between WMR, Oculus, and Vive you can run all of thier games from any of the three stores on each headset. I have yet to find a game that the O+, Rift, and Vive cant all three play well

[surreal tide]

True

But that only furthers my point

[azure mortar]

its good for all the headsets at this point to not polarize anyone

[surreal tide]

Right

[azure mortar]

I would lose like a 1/3 of the players in my multiplayer games if one of the big three got left out in the cold

I feel like its a lot of give and take too. I have one of all 3. I like my rift for its polish and seeming like a finished product, I like my O+ for having the best panels hands down SD is gone, and I like my vive best for its amazing second to none tracking. I also have a pimax 5k+ but I dont really like it for anything. Its wider FOV sure but its also distorted from the curved screen and is really heavy and has bad screen door effect for such a high res

[surreal tide]

Hmmm

[twilit sage]

@gleaming grove worse tracking and controllers

[gleaming grove]

Yeah true @twilit sage but cheaper and better screen

[twilit sage]

...on which ones?

The only one with an OLED IIRC is the odyssey

The others have LCDs just like the Rift S

[sullen linden]

isnt the rift s only 60hz?

coz thats a deal breaker

i prefer the quest over rift s

[strange tusk]

No it’s 90Hz

[gleaming grove]

@strange tusk no it's 80 Hz and @twilit sage meant the resolution

[strange tusk]

okokay

[twilit sage]

80hz and 90hz is almost identical

No one that got to try the Rift S couldnt tell it apart from the OG Rift

[sullen linden]

is quest 90 tho?

[twilit sage]

60/72

[sullen linden]

have they said what the processor is?

[azure mortar]

Snapdragon 835

[gleaming grove]

@sullen linden Were you that lazy to google it up?

[broken horizon]

damn relax

[gentle coral]

One reason the 80 hz panel is fine is because the resolution is not that much of an upgrade, if the resolution was 4k you'd have many more times that it would be possible to sense the screen trying to catch up to your movement (in a smooth manner).

@azure mortar. Also oculus does have exclusives. For those who aren't tech savvy, needing to download revive truly limits access to oculus games. Also WMR cannot currently play all games on the steam vr store (it is improving rapidly though). Games need their controls remapped and that can take time (though you can do it yourself if you know how). Though the steam store (supported device) does not have that much bearing on if it will work or not on your own headset.
Device exclusive games in the VR space are currently somewhat defined by a user's understanding of the tech and how to get around it, and that limitation can hurt adoption of VR in a number of ways for the general public. Though I believe it will get simpler over time (especially with the openXR standard finally being released).

@rugged walrus I agree that the article was a bit much on the clickbait side, but for a device that is replacing another product to have more fault points than the original, going for that price really will not expand the market (as they will go for the quest) or get VR users to upgrade (as there is not much to upgrading to it). If it was cheaper then it would have a much more competitive stance at launch for a large majority of users who want to upgrade, and it could draw new users due to being as simple to set up as WMR but have better tracking.

[azure mortar]

@gentle coral I see what you are saying about some complexity to loading steam and revive through steam. But as I have stated before I have yet to find a game that I cant play on WMR from steam or revive there might be one but I havent found it yet and I own almost 100 VR games

I also look forward to the openXR standard

[gentle coral]

Usually the stuff I have trouble getting working are more in the category of apps (3d modeling) or experiences (immersive movies). Game are usually easier. I probably should have clarified that.

[azure mortar]

@gentle coral yeah I dont have much experience with any of the 3d modeling or immersive movies although on a whim I did pick up Google Tilt Brush and it is really fun to mess around in even if like me you aren't very artisticly inclined

[sullen linden]

Hey, does the VR vive eye pro any good?

I been looking at it

[azure mortar]

its sounds neat but I've never seen one in the wild

[sullen linden]

Im just going to buy one

fuck it

Would really like higher res

but Im sure nothing is going to come out soon

[sullen linden]

Well shit, it's not even out yet

The vive Cosmo's?

Also the cosmo's isn't wireless?

[sullen linden]

@gleaming grove ofc

[sullen linden]

Can I attach my own battery bank to the wireless adapter? Or daisy chain these?

[gentle coral]

I tried the vive pro eye at GDC with an app that used the eye tracking as a main component, and for after experience analysis. and it worked quite well. I have not tested any foveated rendered games yet, but It will help quite a bit in future high resolution headsets.

Also there are some third party eye trackers for vr headsets like 7invensun aglass.

Right now the adoption issue seems to be license price, which is mostly software related, as the BOM (bill of materials) for eye trackers is usually under 200 dollars even at the high end. I typically see eye trackers around 800 dollars that are made using less then 100 dollars in hardware. And at scale a company like Oculus or HTC could integrate eye tracking for very little extra cost (50 dollars in hardware, an extra 100 dollars in price), and the benefits of that tech could be quite dramatic. I mean that is why it is it's own headset in the HTC line up.

I would not be surprised if Oculus releases its next headset with eye tracking.

Though I am a bit biased as eye tracking is one of the features I need to build a few of my games.

[sullen linden]

Thank you for answering sir

You think games like vrchat would accept the eye tracking?

A rough spitball

Also! Before I forget would this 20100m battery pack work for the wireless adapter, this is twice more capacity than HTC's