#development | Linus Tech Tips | Page 29

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:27 PM

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but no

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:27 PM

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???

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:27 PM

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from my experience people who start with C kind of stick to that for a long time

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:28 PM

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If you do that, you're problem isn't C

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:28 PM

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because they have to deal with things that should be abstract

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for example a set data type

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:28 PM

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It's most likely lack of motivation or stupidity

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Which would result in a worse scenario with Python

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:29 PM

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when writing a program, you shouldn't need to implement set by yourself every time

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:29 PM

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Because now they can suddenly do enough to cause some damage

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:29 PM

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yes, you should know what happens in the background

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:29 PM

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@hasty sail we're not at the point of writing a program

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We're still at the point of learning

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:29 PM

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yes

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:29 PM

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Which means trying to understand and implement things

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Not trying to make something

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:30 PM

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no

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you should be able to actually build solutions

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not implement a set

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:30 PM

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That's literally code monkey

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:30 PM

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no it is not

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:30 PM

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Able to build solutions

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:30 PM

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yes

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:31 PM

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Literally code monkey

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:31 PM

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you are quite stupid if you think that

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I have learned C for ~1h and I know more about what happens in the background than people who started learning from how some abstractions are built

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:33 PM

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If you think that building solutions is the important part of programming, you are either still learning or a code monkey

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Almost anyone can learn to do that

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:33 PM

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almost, yes

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but it is not that common to write actual effective solutions and write clean code

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solving problems effectively and cleanly is the key

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:35 PM

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That's the key to building software

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Not good software

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But software

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And cost effective software

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:35 PM

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yes, good software

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:35 PM

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That's where code monkeys are good

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:35 PM

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good software is scaleable, extensible, flexible, effective

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:36 PM

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They can build something that works and maybe look into the future a bit

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:36 PM

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or you are just sad that codemonkeys can actually do something

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:37 PM

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Code monkeys are important though?

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Code monkeys are the majority of what is wanted

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And the majority of programmers

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:37 PM

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I haven't seen anyone who I would classify as a code monkey by your description

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:38 PM

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???

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:38 PM

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maybe I just haven't worked with any of them then

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:38 PM

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You yourself have literally seem to have that mentality

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It's not bad, there's just a difference between learning to program to make things and learning to program to learn things

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:40 PM

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you can take a look at my github if you want to

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:41 PM

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I don't care about your code

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:41 PM

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the thing is

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learning theory it self is useless

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if you can't practically use it

grand hornet Jan 14, 2018, 6:42 PM

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This whole conversation is basically "Wtf"

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:42 PM

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Practically applying ideas with code is pretty straight forward

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Once you have worked out how to solve a problem programmatically

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 6:43 PM

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yeah, I can't be bothered to explain things to you anymore 😄

whole quail Jan 14, 2018, 6:43 PM

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You haven't explained a single thing lol

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 7:59 PM

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I really can't stand web development, backend OR frontend.

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I'm trying to implement online multiplayer in my game, and allow players to host their own servers. I'd also like to allow players to log into ONE account and have that be the way to authenticate with a server - nothing else.

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So I have a webserver and a REST API that handles logins and stuff like that and both the client and the server talk with it to query user information

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client logs in sending a username/password pair over SSL to the server, server checks it, let's em in, and sends back a user token. Client sends the user token with all requests to the game servers, and the game server uses it to get the user ID which is then used to look for save data and other content on the game server for that user.

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Only thing is, this backend API that actually HANDLES user logins is insanely annoying to program and use.

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And coding the HTML/JS frontend is even worse

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because JS just...gahh. I hate it.

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If anyone could recommend a free, open-source solution that does what I need to achieve this...it'd be greatly appreciated

little knoll Jan 14, 2018, 8:11 PM

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What do you use as your backend ? NodeJS ? Or some other language/framework ?

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 8:14 PM

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I use C#. I wrote my own HTTP server to handle the incoming requests

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my current setup is a CentOS 7 server with nginx that handles things like SSL and simply uses a reverse proxy to forward inbound requests to the API running on a different port and not visible to the outside world

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so when you go to https://watercolorgames.net/api/whatever, your request goes from your PC to the nginx proxy which is how you get SSL, and the nginx proxy forwards it to the API's webserver which actually handles the request

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though I'm thinking of making it so Discord handles authentication for the game servers

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and killing off this API entirely and using the nginx reverse proxy to point to apache+php which will host something like phpbb or drupal

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The main issue now is how does one get OAuth2 (through discord's APIs) to throw the token back at you when the user's logged in so that the token can be accepted by the game client right then and there without you having to copy the token from a web browser into the game (like I've seen some programs do)

little knoll Jan 14, 2018, 8:22 PM

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This redirect from your web browser to an app is simple, the callback url for your auth form simply redirects to a basic web server running on the app that gets the callback call and then do some stuff with it.

small escarp Jan 14, 2018, 8:23 PM

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oh god, if you want speed (for a realtime game) please dont use apache + php

little knoll Jan 14, 2018, 8:24 PM

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To simplify this login nightmare, you could use a auth library. I tried to find one for C# but I didn't found anything useful. The only auth library that I know is Passport.JS for node, maybe search for C# equivalent.
And Nginx can do PHP. You don't need Apache for this.

small escarp Jan 14, 2018, 8:28 PM

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btw, what you're trying to do is basically implement your own OAuth2 server

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there are libs/apis for that

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hence, doing it with your own server or doing it with discord would be exactly the same thing

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as far as the client - private server are concerned

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 8:30 PM

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@small escarp the apache+php thing wouldn't be used by the game

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it'd be the website lol

small escarp Jan 14, 2018, 8:31 PM

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well, if you're running them in the same machine, they are using the same resources

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 8:33 PM

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also I'm aware nginx can do php but it's insanely hard and annoying to configure compared to Apache.

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Unless someone wants to configure it to work properly for me based on what community frontend I decide to use then I'm using apache

little knoll Jan 14, 2018, 8:35 PM

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Not that much, just install php-fpm and then just look at a site config. It just 5 lines of config file to add

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https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-nginx-mysql-php-lemp-stack-on-centos-7#step-three-—-install-php

DigitalOcean

How To Install Linux, Nginx, MySQL, PHP (LEMP) stack On CentOS 7 | DigitalOcean

In this guide, we'll get a LEMP stack installed on an CentOS 7 VPS. A LEMP software stack is a group of open source software that is typically installed together to enable a server to host dynamic websites and web apps. This term is actually an acrony

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 8:36 PM

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I mean I've gotten it to at least try to use php

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but certain CMS software wouldn't work properly in nginx

small escarp Jan 14, 2018, 8:36 PM

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gotta love those digitalocean tutorials

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 8:37 PM

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yep I use em a lot

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but there's one that goes over how to set up vnc

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don't follow it directly unless you're really cautious about shutting down the vnc server when you're not using it.

little knoll Jan 14, 2018, 8:37 PM

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What are those CMS that require Apache?

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 8:37 PM

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The server they make you install...

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it limits your password...

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to a max of 8 characters...

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and I forgot to turn off the vnc server...

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and someone was able to VERY EASILY brute-force their way in

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and trashed the server

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and I accidentally left my Discord open on the server (was using it to get around school restrictions, mwahahaha)

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so they tried to break up with my boyfriend using it too

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and leaked ssh credentials and shit on my discord guild

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all while I was asleep

small escarp Jan 14, 2018, 8:40 PM

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leaked ssh credentials?

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weren't they password protected?

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 8:40 PM

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Luckily the guys who did it are incredibly memified and hated in my community so everyone pitched in to help recover everything that was damaged

small escarp Jan 14, 2018, 8:40 PM

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and why did the server had a graphical interface at all?

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(and why did the server have personal ssh credentials to begin with)

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 8:41 PM

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@small escarp Because I wanted to get around my school blocking Discord, and without writing a bot you can't use Discord through SSH.

small escarp Jan 14, 2018, 8:41 PM

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interesting

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no more 8 char passwords

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 8:42 PM

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these same guys who hacked me actually hacked PowerPoint OS Network (look it up)

small escarp Jan 14, 2018, 8:42 PM

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also, note that servers are typically based on non-preemptive kernels

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 8:42 PM

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and they wrote a song about it.

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A SONG.

small escarp Jan 14, 2018, 8:42 PM

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so they make awful "interactive computers"

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 8:43 PM

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I run CentOS now (before, I ran Ubuntu) with SELinux and not a single password in sight below 50 characters.

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(Also the SSH credentials they leaked were for an account THEY created which had sudo privileges on that server.)

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(Anyone could have used them to totally raid it.)

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(But instead one of the people on my guild logged in and shut the entire thing down and reported the incident to another one of our sysops who was awake at the time)

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 9:03 PM

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I wonder what software the LTT forums use

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...and now easy it is to customize/theme

little knoll Jan 14, 2018, 9:32 PM

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https://invisioncommunity.com/

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(from the footer)

timid widget Jan 14, 2018, 9:49 PM

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not easy at all

grand hornet Jan 14, 2018, 9:49 PM

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I need some help with some basic terminology

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I have a PHP class with a list of directories I am importing files from and exporting to a diffrent directory

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public $sassInDirectory; public $sassOutDirectory; public $jsInDirectory; public $jsOutDirectory;

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Can I create an array and call it something like public $workspacePaths;

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Or what should I even name that array

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Because what I plan to do is have this class then itterate over each directory and then create the directory if it does not yet exist

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Does that make sense to do?

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 11:00 PM

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I'm not good with JS, how would I go about extracting the value of access_token from this URL?

http://localhost:3254/itch_callback#access_token=my_itchio_token_you_no_getsies

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 11:01 PM

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are you using just plain js or some framework?

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 11:01 PM

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plain JS.

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I want the code to be as compact as possible because it's embedded into a tiny C# webserver that just waits for an OAuth2 callback, grabs the token, and brings it into the game I'm working on

hasty sail Jan 14, 2018, 11:02 PM

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regex?

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 11:02 PM

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usually I'd parse the url on the server-side but itch.io decided to put the token after the # character in the url and the browser doesn't send that part of the url to the server

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I uh also don't know regex lol

little knoll Jan 14, 2018, 11:13 PM

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You could try a window.location.hash but it only works when you are on the actual page. (if script is loaded from the same url)
If not, you will have to use regex.

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 11:13 PM

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ahh it'll be embedded in the html of the returned response so I should be fine

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so just extract the hash and send to the server through ajax - bam.

worldly vale Jan 14, 2018, 11:20 PM

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var token = window.location.hash.match('(#access_token=)(.+)')

nocturne galleon Jan 14, 2018, 11:23 PM

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thank you 😄

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that code seems to have broken

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because when the token was sent to the server it came in as that

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(see the _token value under Locals)

timid widget Jan 15, 2018, 12:24 AM

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For those of you using JSON.net -- this is a very cool tool https://app.quicktype.io/#l=cs

proper saddle Jan 15, 2018, 12:50 AM

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@nocturne galleon Is that an API or MVC project? :U

timid widget Jan 15, 2018, 12:51 AM

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looks like WebSockets

proper saddle Jan 15, 2018, 12:51 AM

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Oh...

timid widget Jan 15, 2018, 12:51 AM

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not even SignalR websockets

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like raw

proper saddle Jan 15, 2018, 12:52 AM

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Never used them, and probably never will in the foreseeable future.

timid widget Jan 15, 2018, 12:57 AM

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WebSockets are cool, but Microsoft doesn't have a good standard for them IMO. Nobody has corrected me yet tho

proper saddle Jan 15, 2018, 12:58 AM

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I need to look into Monogame after finding out that it can make 3D games, I'd only seen 2D games up til now.

proper saddle Jan 15, 2018, 1:25 AM

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Eh, I guess I'll stick with Unity.

nocturne galleon Jan 15, 2018, 1:47 AM

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@proper saddle it's not either

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I wrote my own webserver

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embedded into my game

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for the sole purpose of accepting an OAuth2 callback

nocturne galleon Jan 15, 2018, 2:22 AM

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also yes it can do 3D

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but it's WAY harder

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To the point where I'll be using UE4 if I ever decide to do 3D.

nocturne tusk Jan 15, 2018, 8:32 AM

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Does anyone know any good and free website/mobile app UI designer? I know Adobe XD but it's not free

graceful silo Jan 15, 2018, 8:34 AM

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Windows or Mac?

little knoll Jan 15, 2018, 8:45 AM

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https://designer.io/
It's multiplatform (even available from the web), paid equivalent are better tho (Sketch or Adobe XD).

nocturne tusk Jan 15, 2018, 8:47 AM

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@graceful silo Windows

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@little knoll Thanks!

little knoll Jan 15, 2018, 8:55 AM

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You're welcome !

worldly vale Jan 15, 2018, 12:33 PM

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try https://www.figma.com/

Figma

Figma: the collaborative interface design tool.

Figma keeps everyone on the same page. Focus on the work instead of fighting your tools.

crude mason Jan 15, 2018, 2:15 PM

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Poi

timid widget Jan 17, 2018, 7:21 PM

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Working on an app 😛

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tranquil creek Jan 18, 2018, 9:09 AM

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how about not making peoples browser mine your bitcoins? @karmic sinew

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@untold flame maybe check into this?

untold flame Jan 18, 2018, 9:11 AM

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hm?

tranquil creek Jan 18, 2018, 9:12 AM

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he posted a link to a site that he claims is a game he made, but it has a trojan (javascript) that makes the clients computer mine cryptocurrency for him

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tldr the site is infected

untold flame Jan 18, 2018, 9:14 AM

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Have proof? I'm testing it out and my CPU is fine. not showing any higher usage than normal

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im familier with coinhive and all that

tranquil creek Jan 18, 2018, 9:14 AM

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i posted a screenshot

untold flame Jan 18, 2018, 9:14 AM

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ah i see the FAQ now

tranquil creek Jan 18, 2018, 9:16 AM

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but the user is not informed immediately asfter opening the link and just starts doing it

untold flame Jan 18, 2018, 9:16 AM

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from what I can tell it only starts when you "opt in" with the checkbox? I'll remove the link for now and if they put it up again I'll ask them to put a warning

tranquil creek Jan 18, 2018, 9:17 AM

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as you can see from my screenshot i got the popup immediately after opening the link

untold flame Jan 18, 2018, 9:17 AM

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funnily enough i can't get it to start taxing my system.

tranquil creek Jan 18, 2018, 9:17 AM

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well I checked the web and some people have trouble removing it

untold flame Jan 18, 2018, 9:18 AM

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i assume that it just scanned the code and saw the call to coinhive. thats how most anti-miners do it

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all good now though 👍 thanks for tagging me

tranquil creek Jan 18, 2018, 9:18 AM

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thx for looking into it

karmic sinew Jan 18, 2018, 2:54 PM

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It only starts once you accept it. Anti viruses see the js includes in the page and get angry

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I’m planning on moving it to a separate page so users who don’t opt in won’t see the warning

winged zodiac Jan 18, 2018, 5:32 PM

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New experiment https://bbsspace.neocities.org

strange horizon Jan 18, 2018, 6:55 PM

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a friend of mine has done quite a bit of coding and developing over the past fast few years, but only in java, c# and the occasional bit of python. now, he got a commodore 64 and wanted to do some serious codeing on it, not just BASIC. i advised him assembler, but told him its quite far from OOP programming...............

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the next day he came to me, asking how to make a class and how to give it methods....

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i laughed my ass off

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told him to be carefull with what he asks bare metal programmers

timid widget Jan 18, 2018, 7:42 PM

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shame these bare metal programmers you speak of are backwards asf and cant make anything useful

winged zodiac Jan 18, 2018, 7:42 PM

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True that

untold flame Jan 18, 2018, 9:11 PM

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@karmic sinew that's fine. Might want to post a more obvious warning.

karmic sinew Jan 18, 2018, 9:12 PM

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im also planning on using Adsense once they approve me

nocturne galleon Jan 18, 2018, 10:52 PM

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whos learning kotlin

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?

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winged zodiac Jan 19, 2018, 4:36 AM

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Anyone know how to make two css grids so that there would be two collumns and two rows

graceful silo Jan 19, 2018, 5:21 AM

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So like this:

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untold pilot Jan 19, 2018, 5:22 AM

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lol

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yikes how long did that take u to make

graceful silo Jan 19, 2018, 5:22 AM

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like 30 seconds lol

untold pilot Jan 19, 2018, 5:22 AM

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oh

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ok

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xd

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_________
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WTF

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RIP

graceful silo Jan 19, 2018, 5:23 AM

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https://www.w3schools.com/bootstrap/bootstrap_grid_system.asp

untold pilot Jan 19, 2018, 5:23 AM

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i give up

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i got bio to study

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lol

grand hornet Jan 19, 2018, 5:26 AM

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What do you guys think of this design? Using bootstrap but made some changes to it. This UI shows the admin all the website competition submissions.

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graceful silo Jan 19, 2018, 5:27 AM

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Pretty decent

hollow fulcrum Jan 19, 2018, 1:07 PM

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timid widget Jan 19, 2018, 9:38 PM

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this bastard because i google stack overflow

obsidian bluff Jan 19, 2018, 11:53 PM

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That guy: "Python's where it's at! You can do almost anything with it!"
Me: Fuck off

empty dune Jan 19, 2018, 11:57 PM

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lol

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what's your poison?

obsidian bluff Jan 19, 2018, 11:58 PM

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I refuse to use python

empty dune Jan 19, 2018, 11:58 PM

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Fair enough.

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But please don't say php is where it's at 😉

obsidian bluff Jan 19, 2018, 11:58 PM

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I might consider it someday

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But for now I'm focussing C/C++

empty dune Jan 19, 2018, 11:58 PM

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die hard 😄 I like it

obsidian bluff Jan 19, 2018, 11:58 PM

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To my own detriment

empty dune Jan 19, 2018, 11:59 PM

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You really hate yourself to learn C 😄

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I respect that.

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It's a real man's language

obsidian bluff Jan 19, 2018, 11:59 PM

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I don't wanna judge other people for using languages with more abstraction

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I'm personally not comfortable blindly depending on something that's actually very complex

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I want to at least sort of know how it works

empty dune Jan 20, 2018, 12:00 AM

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Makes sense

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I remember in Electronics class in high school. The teacher always said that you can confidently say "this is how a radio works" instead of "it works fine"

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I think a lot of people miss that these days. Ask questions, learn more, wonder, imagine. You know what I mean?

obsidian bluff Jan 20, 2018, 12:02 AM

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I'm not sure

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I think what you're describing is a very new and modern way of thinking

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relatively

empty dune Jan 20, 2018, 12:03 AM

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I don't think it's that new.

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I just think it's being reborn

obsidian bluff Jan 20, 2018, 12:03 AM

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It was always the special types who thought about things. Regular people didn't really bother with it

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You know... The Newtons and the Descartes of the world

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I don't think thinking scientifically has ever been something for your average person

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Trending #off-topic

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I will only use a library when I am convinced I'll either never be able to code it (or shouldn't, think crypto) or if I'm certain I would be able to code it if I had the time.

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At least that's what I've been trying to do

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Not going to claim it's productive

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But I have managed to do some cool things

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And I've learned a lot from it

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I don't really have any experience with developing applications that are suited for general audiences.

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I don't want to go up levels before I've been to rock bottom... I'm basically just slowly digging down and I want to work my way back up.

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One of the goals I've set is to at some point be able to type out a program byte for byte, no linker, no compiler, just instructions typed in as bytes and a manually created PE header. It would probably call a function like MessageBoxA saying "Hello World!". I'd love to be able to do that

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It's totally pointless and nobody who doesn't understand it will be impressed by it but I still think it would be cool to be able to do it.

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Anyone looking at it would think to themselves "Wow you've achieved literally nothing". But I would disagree.

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I'm just ranting at this point

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Anyone got some thoughts on that rant?

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I get the feeling @whole quail would get where I'm coming from

empty dune Jan 20, 2018, 12:26 AM

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Sounds like a valid goal.

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Do it up

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😄

small escarp Jan 20, 2018, 3:39 AM

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hope you are testing all your implementations 😉

whole quail Jan 20, 2018, 5:50 AM

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As long as you understand what you're doing and can seperate learning from actual development for a client

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If you like learning

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Learn everything you want

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There's never going to be harm in learning too much

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It sounds like a good goal too

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It's nothing too crazy and it's achievable while also letting you learn a lot

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I'd hire the guy who wants to learn about things over a guy who learns a standard and follows it strictly

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For high level positions

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For low level positions you don't need good developers

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Average or mediocore devs are fine for the majority of things

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And it's fine to not be an above average developer

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But if you want to bring something special and make a difference you've got to do things that make you irreplacable

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Like spending 10 years of your life learning things that might seem unnecessary so that you can give a unique aspect to your work

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The things I'm doing atm I couldn't ever do without spending years doing that seemingly unnecessary stuff I did. Because of that I'm able to build a service that is so unique it hasn't been explored much if at all.

timid widget Jan 20, 2018, 1:49 PM

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Pace yourself though. Learning all the languages at once won't get you anywhere

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tries writing C# in a JRE enviroment

whole quail Jan 20, 2018, 2:05 PM

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If you're in a hurry you're not learning for learning, you're learning to do something

small escarp Jan 20, 2018, 3:15 PM

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if you truly want to learn because of learning, then you should learn haskell

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haskell is a plus in any resume just because of it, no need to apply it anywhere, it just says a lot about you

whole quail Jan 20, 2018, 4:18 PM

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There's no harm in learning older languages

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Actually quite helpful when learning about more general comp science to look back at history because the present is so god damn complicated now compared to decades ago

small escarp Jan 20, 2018, 6:40 PM

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the harm is that time is finite

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you can only learn so much

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concepts from functional and object oriented languages are more interesting, useful and mentally challenging

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also, there is somuch more to software dev than writing code

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project management, team building, testing, verification, etc.

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that is another set of challenges a sw should master if they want to work in the industry in a great role

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also, expressive languages make development easier, not more complicated 😉 hence leaving room to make more complex systems

graceful silo Jan 21, 2018, 1:53 AM

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Concurrency is a blessing and a curse

timid widget Jan 21, 2018, 2:08 AM

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this so much

small escarp Jan 21, 2018, 2:43 AM

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:S

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so code that needs to be tested...(?)

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that typically means they are doing it wrong

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if you don't like tests, you should join us at machine learning

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every bug is a regularizer

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40-50 lines of code..... ouch! that can never be good, in any context

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yes, but it takes experience to see it

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sadly, not every lead has it

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c#?

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those are awful

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you should screenshot them and send them to WTF

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(if legal)

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a research lab

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startup

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saving whales

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ever heard of Sandi Matz's rules? https://robots.thoughtbot.com/sandi-metz-rules-for-developers

Sandi Metz' Rules For Developers

Back in January, Sandi Metz introduced her rules for developers in a Ruby...

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(no, in Chile)

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they are quite harsh (and it's for Ruby so, context...) but they are decent guidelines

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even if I don't follow them, thinking about them sometimes helps simplify things

timid widget Jan 21, 2018, 3:45 AM

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@warm frigate "this function looks simliar to 2-3 others, make it one function; with 10 params"

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Never. Do. This.

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Yes, the sentiment is correct. You should convert your common logic into private routines/functions. Seperation of concerns after all.

grand hornet Jan 21, 2018, 3:46 AM

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Just make everything static and you'll be fine. Access the code from all sections of the environment 😄

timid widget Jan 21, 2018, 3:46 AM

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Converting large portions of logic is creating a large concern alone, and seperating too small a portion creates too much work to maintain.

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And TriggeredNerd, that's just a waste of memory. Accessors are a thing to avoid that.

grand hornet Jan 21, 2018, 3:47 AM

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Yeah I was joking lol

timid widget Jan 21, 2018, 3:52 AM

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To be fair, the first thing I ever wrote as part of my actual career did and still does that. Shit's pretty fast, but it doesn't do much anyway. Only facing like max 2 users a day.

grand hornet Jan 21, 2018, 3:54 AM

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Yeah same. Minecraft plugins with all public static function was a terrible idea. Memory leaks like crazy

graceful silo Jan 21, 2018, 4:01 AM

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I use a fair amount of static methods in plugins .-.

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Never had a memory leak issue with any of them

grand hornet Jan 21, 2018, 4:08 AM

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It's bad practice kinda lol

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Something I made static anyway but still

graceful silo Jan 21, 2018, 4:09 AM

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It's that or I'm putting the same like 5 methods in every single class lol

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At least they're protected 99% of the time rather than public, so they're a little safer

lilac dove Jan 21, 2018, 12:20 PM

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Can Raspberry Pi Zero run Node.js and Python?

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@here

proper saddle Jan 21, 2018, 12:21 PM

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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Can+Raspberry+Pi+Zero+run+Node.js+and+Python%3F

LMGTFY

rugged fossil Jan 21, 2018, 12:26 PM

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I know nodeJS run on raspbian easily

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I used it for an IT project when i joined my it school

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And I think python should do just fine also

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I have a raspberry pi zero W btw

main wyvern Jan 21, 2018, 12:30 PM

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apt uses python afaik, raspbian is debian based

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so yes, it will 110% run

solid horizon Jan 21, 2018, 12:33 PM

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any idea?

vestal glen Jan 21, 2018, 12:33 PM

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(I mean, unless you want like that python version that it doesn't have because python is complicated...)

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@solid horizon it's a console.

solid horizon Jan 21, 2018, 12:33 PM

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yes i know

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vestal glen Jan 21, 2018, 12:34 PM

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(you asked for "any idea" 😛 )

solid horizon Jan 21, 2018, 12:34 PM

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i meant "any idea why this is happening"

vestal glen Jan 21, 2018, 12:34 PM

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I'm going to not write "because you made it do that" and instead do other stuff, good luck!

solid horizon Jan 21, 2018, 12:35 PM

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i dont see how?

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also i made it remove the key from the dict and its still there

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omg i think i found it

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yup...

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 3:59 PM

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@lilac dove raspberry pi is literally described as a python machine often lol

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Because of its large out of the box support for it

obsidian bluff Jan 21, 2018, 4:00 PM

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I scrolled up a bit and read people talking about "memory leaks" in the context of Java... Isn't the whole point of java not to have to worry about memory management? Garbo collector and such? I thought they eliminated memory leaks from programmer error.

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:00 PM

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That's a misconception

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It can only remove what it thinks you aren't using

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If you do really stupid shit you can get really stupid results

lilac dove Jan 21, 2018, 4:01 PM

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@whole quail how do you install

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:01 PM

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@lilac dove ?

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Python 2 and 3 are installed by default along with a lot of other really helpful tools with raspian

main wyvern Jan 21, 2018, 4:02 PM

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^ on anything debian based

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:03 PM

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Are full python installs included with debian?

main wyvern Jan 21, 2018, 4:03 PM

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Yes

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:03 PM

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I thought they were limited

main wyvern Jan 21, 2018, 4:03 PM

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Nope

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:04 PM

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I've always had to install a bunch of stuff to get full functionality on servers

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@lilac dove are you trying to do something specific with it?

lilac dove Jan 21, 2018, 4:05 PM

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@whole quail make a Discord bot

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Currently im running off my laptop

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:06 PM

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That should be super easy to do

lilac dove Jan 21, 2018, 4:06 PM

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I can make the code but to host on a server

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:07 PM

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Just install raspian, get any dependencies, copy the files over and run

lilac dove Jan 21, 2018, 4:08 PM

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Where will i get Discord.py and cmd to do pip install Discord and to get a ide and Python it self

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?!?

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:09 PM

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It's probably called terminal and you just use pip like on windows but be careful with capitals

lilac dove Jan 21, 2018, 4:10 PM

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Where will i get dependencies

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:10 PM

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pip or as source files most likely

lilac dove Jan 21, 2018, 4:10 PM

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And a ide?

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:11 PM

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idle is probably installed

lilac dove Jan 21, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Where will i actully get Python

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:11 PM

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It comes with raspian

lilac dove Jan 21, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Oh ok

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Will it work with norm pi zero

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:12 PM

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Everything should be there for you already so you only have to do minimal setup if any

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It's why they're used in education so much

lilac dove Jan 21, 2018, 4:12 PM

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Ok

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:12 PM

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I have no idea what works with what

lilac dove Jan 21, 2018, 4:13 PM

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Where will i buy a raspberry Pi Zero

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:13 PM

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No idea

lilac dove Jan 21, 2018, 4:14 PM

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Where you get yours?

fringe summit Jan 21, 2018, 4:14 PM

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Getting a raspberry pi online is a good bet

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There's a list of places you can buy it on their website

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https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/

Raspberry Pi

Products - Raspberry Pi

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:14 PM

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I haven't touched my raspberry pi b since, well not long after the raspberry pi b was released

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I just haven't had too many uses for it

fringe summit Jan 21, 2018, 4:15 PM

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For my uses, a raspberry pi isn't even enough

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:16 PM

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lol I have boxes of old computer gear and many old servers lying around

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So if I need something local I dig up one of those

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Otherwise I just host it remotely

lilac dove Jan 21, 2018, 4:19 PM

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Lol

fringe summit Jan 21, 2018, 4:20 PM

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For local things, a virtual machine helps

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:20 PM

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lol I have many many vm's

fringe summit Jan 21, 2018, 4:20 PM

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https://send-me-some.discordmail.com/cebf379fce9c89e7b98ddff04f453644.png

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:21 PM

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"in shutdown"

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Also wtf is security

fringe summit Jan 21, 2018, 4:21 PM

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that is not for you to know

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it's zoneminder

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for CCTV

whole quail Jan 21, 2018, 4:22 PM

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That's boring

lost schooner Jan 21, 2018, 5:25 PM

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"Minceraft"

carmine relic Jan 21, 2018, 6:42 PM

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oh hey it's 7coil

fringe summit Jan 21, 2018, 6:42 PM

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ayy

carmine relic Jan 21, 2018, 6:42 PM

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oof, i cannot change my nick

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oh well

fringe summit Jan 21, 2018, 6:42 PM

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https://send-me-some.discordmail.com/0fb7aa8e40a51761772ec524b508c0ba.png

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not doing well enough?

carmine relic Jan 21, 2018, 6:43 PM

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i abandoned the project

fringe summit Jan 21, 2018, 6:43 PM

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oh

carmine relic Jan 21, 2018, 6:43 PM

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lost motivation, as i do with everything

fringe summit Jan 21, 2018, 7:39 PM

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const clean = (html) => {
    const $ = cheerio.load(html);
    $('*').each((i, element) => {
        Object.keys(element.attribs)
            .filter(attribute => attribute.startsWith('on'))
            .forEach((attribute) => {
                $(element).removeAttr(attribute);
            });
    });
    $('script').remove();
    return $.html();
};

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a brilliant use of jquery

vestal glen Jan 21, 2018, 7:41 PM

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*cheerio

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it sanitizes html?

fringe summit Jan 21, 2018, 7:41 PM

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cheerio is basically jquery for node

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yea

vestal glen Jan 21, 2018, 7:41 PM

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kinda, sure

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it misses javascript: links.

fringe summit Jan 21, 2018, 7:42 PM

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it's also kinda inefficient

vestal glen Jan 21, 2018, 7:42 PM

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and dynamic same-origin iframes with scripts

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kinda, yes.

fringe summit Jan 21, 2018, 7:43 PM

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also can adobe flash run scripts?

graceful silo Jan 21, 2018, 7:44 PM

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Don't use flash

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Never use flash

fringe summit Jan 21, 2018, 7:44 PM

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If someone does use flash, it's not going to get cleaned

vestal glen Jan 21, 2018, 7:44 PM

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I mean, sure, remove all <object>s too for good measure.

swift niche Jan 22, 2018, 5:27 AM

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I posted this question on the forums, but wanted to see what you guys think: I need an idea for the final course in my Comp Sci major. It has to be roughly 4000 lines of code (dumb, I know), object oriented, and relatively complex. So far all I'm interested in doing is a discord-like chatroom or some sort of stock market + cryptocurrency price ticker that'll try to actively suggest what to buy based on news articles from the web

nocturne galleon Jan 22, 2018, 7:03 AM

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@fringe summit heh... MINCEraft

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i see what you did there

untold ibex Jan 22, 2018, 10:04 AM

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Anyone in here good at Matlab?

hasty sail Jan 22, 2018, 2:07 PM

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@swift niche a self-hosted discord clone doesn't look like a bad idea

small escarp Jan 22, 2018, 3:41 PM

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I'm good at porting systems from ugly closed platforms into vibrant open source languages :]

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what do you need to do inMatlab?

proper saddle Jan 22, 2018, 7:33 PM

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lul wut?

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Does this even matter? thonk It's just an app that uses an API call.

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And it's only there for Bootstrap.

vestal glen Jan 22, 2018, 7:35 PM

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you can mark it as not relevant if you're sure.

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github tells you about all vulnerabilites in your dependencies. It's up to you to review what your required actions to mitigate the vulnerability are.

proper saddle Jan 22, 2018, 7:37 PM

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It's just updating Jquery from the looks of it, not too hard. :U

topaz iron Jan 22, 2018, 9:15 PM

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https://www.facebook.com/userfrosting/photos/a.1669683453065783.1073741828.1033987403302061/1809148475785946/?type=1&theater

Facebook

UserFrosting

We can all relate to this one.

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XD

whole quail Jan 22, 2018, 11:26 PM

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I wish even a quarter of my problems could be solved with so :/

topaz iron Jan 23, 2018, 1:50 AM

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:/

torn remnant Jan 23, 2018, 11:05 AM

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SSH tries to connect to server with password even after adding the pubkey to the server

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How the hell do I fix this?

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I think it might be the SSH client caching the login type?

hasty sail Jan 23, 2018, 11:14 AM

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maybe the ssh client can't find the private key from your machine?

graceful silo Jan 23, 2018, 12:11 PM

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Which client are you using? @torn remnant

torn remnant Jan 23, 2018, 12:11 PM

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Ubuntu Bash on WSL

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It works for the other server though

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 5:46 PM

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how would i fix this?

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im rendering 16384 cubes

halcyon sequoia Jan 23, 2018, 5:48 PM

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Some sort of culling probably

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(If you cant see all of the cubes)

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 5:49 PM

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you can but not all the faces

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lets try enabling culling

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nope. it removes the top and bottom faces without decreasing render times

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 6:21 PM

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if anything it went up 5-10 ms

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 6:26 PM

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VBO's, culling, and making sure you don't specify vertices for faces you don't see.

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I'm just praying you're not using immediate mode

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 6:32 PM

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immediate mode?

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 6:32 PM

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You using OGL?

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 6:32 PM

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yup

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 6:32 PM

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glBegin()

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 6:32 PM

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well opengl using OpenTK in C#

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 6:32 PM

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and glEnd()

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Are immediate mode

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 6:32 PM

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then yes i guess

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 6:32 PM

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there's your issue

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Basically what glBegin and glEnd do is they upload the vertex data from system memory to the GPU every frame

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Not efficient at all

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If you want to use openGL properly you should use Vertex Buffer Objects

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They store the vertices of the object on the GPU itself

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So you only have to call one function to draw your geometry

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For static geometry that's great

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 6:34 PM

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well i dont have a GUI yet

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 6:35 PM

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Why were you drawing 16384 cubes?

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 6:36 PM

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i'm makign a minecraft clone

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to learn rendering

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 6:36 PM

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I'm not familiar with openTK

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but IIRC glVertex, glColor, glBegin and glEnd are all deprecated

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Which basically means they may or may not be supported in future GPU's

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 6:37 PM

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true

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GL.Begin is marked as deprecated

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obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 6:37 PM

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There you go

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Uh well actually looks like that note is just referring to the argument type

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'Use PrimitiveType overload instead'

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So the library you're using may not consider glBegin deprecated

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Just carry on what you're doing

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 6:39 PM

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obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 6:39 PM

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Hmmm

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Well it should work

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But the performance you're seeing is to be expected

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 6:41 PM

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switching to PrimitiveType increased rendering time by 50 ms

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 6:41 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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glBegin is horrible

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Don't use it

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but glBegin is the most basic

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VBO's are harder to use

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For beginners

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https://open.gl/

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^ that's a good reference

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If you're starting out

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Though they don't use C#

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So you may encounter samples that don't make sense

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 6:45 PM

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wait whats this?

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 6:45 PM

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That's an array of floats

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In this case it stores a 2d triangle

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x1,y1,x2,y2,x3,y3

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 6:46 PM

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obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 6:47 PM

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Yeah, that's immediate mode sadly

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 6:47 PM

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would it be possible to store all these in a single array?

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 6:47 PM

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Sure

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 6:48 PM

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uh that didnt quite work out the way i hoped XD

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obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 6:49 PM

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Ehm... honestly you might just want to stick with immediate mode for some time...

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It's hard to explain

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 6:50 PM

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no?

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{x1,y1,z1
x2,y2,z2}?

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 6:50 PM

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Your code needs to be completely restructured to use VBO's

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It won't be that easy

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If you were to use a VBO you'd first generate all the vertices in the world and upload them to the GPU all at once

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 6:51 PM

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wait hmmm

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just rolled back my code

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anything i could do here?

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hm lemme try smth

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 6:53 PM

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Your performance won't get any better when you keep using immediate mode.

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There's some very hard limits to what you can do with immediate mode

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 6:57 PM

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:/

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 6:58 PM

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It's part of the reason why minecraft splits up it's terrain into chunks.
It's so it can update only a single chunk and so it doesn't have to upload everything else as well

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 7:00 PM

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fair enough

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though my terrain gen is split up in chunks to spread over threads

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 7:01 PM

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And another important thing that minecraft does is that it doesn't generate vertices for blocks that are partly obscured

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 7:03 PM

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i dont have any blocks underneath just yet

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 7:04 PM

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If you had for example a tower, instead of drawing a bunch of stacked boxes it would just draw a beam.

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The sides of which would still be made of squares mind you.

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It just wouldn't draw all of the squares that would be "inside" the tower of blocks

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 7:08 PM

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mhm

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uh

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 7:11 PM

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That's what happens when you change the collection inside an iteration

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You can't remove any elements from "bs" while in that foreach loop

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 7:11 PM

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i didnt change bs

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 7:11 PM

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Strange

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 7:12 PM

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bs is only defined right before the foreach loop

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and only used in said loop

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 7:12 PM

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do you remove anything from bs inside that loop?

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 7:12 PM

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nope

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oh wait wrong func

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the function its calling is the same as this, but with double x = block.X; double y = block.Y; double z = block.Z; right above it

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 7:15 PM

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Have you considered doing something like renderCube(block.X,block.Y,block.Z);?

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that way you don't need to have duplicates

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so like

    renderCube(block.X,block.Y,block.Z);
}```

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 7:16 PM

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thats pretty much my old code

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 7:16 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/380527803604664324/405439205062475777/unknown.png

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That error tells me something is getting deleted from your bs array somewhere

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 7:17 PM

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hold on lemme push to github

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during runtime i only modify bsarr

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https://github.com/TheArcaneBrony/CCraft/blob/master/MCClone/MainWindow.cs @obsidian bluff

GitHub

TheArcaneBrony/CCraft

Contribute to CCraft development by creating an account on GitHub.

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sorry if some of it looks messy as hell

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 7:23 PM

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you're storing the blocks as a list and you then convert that list to an array using ToArray

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I think that makes it convert the List<Block> bsarr variable to an array every frame

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And then it throws that array away again

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So......

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that's not good

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 7:27 PM

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well i mean bsarr is being updated off-thread

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 7:27 PM

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Yes, but you're accessing it through List.ToArray()

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"Copies the elements of the List<T> to a new array"

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 7:29 PM

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well idk

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im kinda stuck

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 7:30 PM

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I'll see if I can get it to build

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Don't think I have a C# environment setup atm

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 7:31 PM

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wait

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do u have teamviewer?

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we could work on there if you'd like

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 7:31 PM

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Oh that sounds like a good idea

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 7:32 PM

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ever used it?

obsidian bluff Jan 23, 2018, 7:32 PM

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yeah

solid horizon Jan 23, 2018, 7:32 PM

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ill dm you my id and pass

torn remnant Jan 24, 2018, 5:12 PM

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PHP probably costs the world countless unneccessary millions in server costs and helps to destroy the environment```

empty dune Jan 24, 2018, 6:43 PM

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lol

nocturne galleon Jan 24, 2018, 8:01 PM

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Anyone who knows python wants to help me out with my homework

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I've done the actual coding part of my homework

#

This bit is just some how remembering crap the teacher didn't teach

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Ping me if anyone decides to answer 😄

raven hatch Jan 24, 2018, 9:04 PM

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9 - functions?

timber violet Jan 24, 2018, 9:06 PM

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this is suprisingly hard...

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1: sequence

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5: round ??

nocturne galleon Jan 24, 2018, 9:15 PM

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exactually

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I bet everyone in my class couldn't even get one

timber violet Jan 24, 2018, 9:19 PM

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7.comment

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switching? but.... it doesnt really fit the question because switch can have many more than two options

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6.debug

cosmic pelican Jan 24, 2018, 9:23 PM

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Debug

solid horizon Jan 24, 2018, 9:28 PM

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@timber violet im pretty sure its something like ExampleBoolean ? "hi" : "bye"

timber violet Jan 24, 2018, 9:29 PM

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thatas the terneary operator

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at least thats its name in java

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thats what i was thinking as well

#

i was using this site to help me a bit http://www.wordplays.com/crossword-helper

Crossword Helper

Get help solving crossword puzzle clues with this handy Crossword Helper. Put in the letters you know and the length of the word your trying to find and the Crossword Helper will find possible answers.

whole quail Jan 24, 2018, 9:34 PM

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How does a crossword puzzle even help

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Maybe if the clues were better it'd make sense

#

It seems really forced

timber violet Jan 24, 2018, 9:56 PM

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yea well, thats school

red flare Jan 24, 2018, 10:18 PM

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Down is actually selection

#

An if statement is a selection statement for example

#

@nocturne galleon

timber violet Jan 24, 2018, 10:23 PM

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i think thats all the answers then

proper saddle Jan 25, 2018, 7:23 AM

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Wut? Unity doesn't update from the client?! danRE

nocturne galleon Jan 25, 2018, 7:24 AM

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Thanks :)

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This was the next it of the homework it works great just looks horrible

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proper saddle Jan 25, 2018, 7:41 AM

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Pro Tip: Don't install Unity via Visual Studio!

static wadi Jan 25, 2018, 7:45 AM

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i guess the next thing @nocturne galleon is learning is not to trust any input from a user 😛

nocturne galleon Jan 25, 2018, 7:56 AM

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Lol

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Well it's what the teacher wanted us to do

proper saddle Jan 25, 2018, 7:57 AM

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try:
    #Code
except:
    #code

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But that's kind of an advanced topic. :U

#

And it requires more resources than a regular conditional statement.

proper saddle Jan 25, 2018, 8:27 AM

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Five word horror story:

📎 xpq3rcqo7kjz.png

whole quail Jan 25, 2018, 10:12 AM

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Is a number a word?

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Or is it more of a word if it fits into a word?

proper saddle Jan 25, 2018, 10:37 AM

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thonk

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It can be spell, so it's a word.

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:U

solid horizon Jan 25, 2018, 10:46 AM

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@proper saddle i agree with the unity thing

proper saddle Jan 25, 2018, 10:49 AM

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http://codereddit.net/#/?_k=w8appj

small escarp Jan 25, 2018, 3:04 PM

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@whole quail in windows32 parlance, a number can be of many types, but a word is always unsigned 16bit int

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in cpus, word is the natural unit of size for data

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nowadays, 32 or 64 bits

whole quail Jan 25, 2018, 3:05 PM

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@small escarp I know

small escarp Jan 25, 2018, 3:05 PM

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😃

whole quail Jan 25, 2018, 3:06 PM

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That was the joke

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That is a number more of a word than a word if it can fit in a word

small escarp Jan 25, 2018, 3:06 PM

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oh

whole quail Jan 25, 2018, 3:07 PM

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Since he said "Five word horror story" and counted "3" as a word

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Which obviously fits into a word

small escarp Jan 25, 2018, 3:08 PM

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I hadn't seen the previous message xD

whole quail Jan 25, 2018, 3:08 PM

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But seriously

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Is "3" a word

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It's a character but that doesn't mean it can't be a word, eg "I" or "a"

small escarp Jan 25, 2018, 3:09 PM

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more interestingly, is 12435 a word?

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or is it 6 words

whole quail Jan 25, 2018, 3:11 PM

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Well it fits in a word

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And twelve thousand four hundred and thirty five is 7 words or 6?

small escarp Jan 25, 2018, 3:12 PM

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missed the and

whole quail Jan 25, 2018, 3:12 PM

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Do you need the and?

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Important questions here

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Very relevant to development

small escarp Jan 25, 2018, 3:13 PM

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yes

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it's in the client's requirements

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must get this right or no pay

whole quail Jan 25, 2018, 3:14 PM

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Really everything is relevant to development if you think about it long enough

nocturne galleon Jan 25, 2018, 4:36 PM

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Lol

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I was right

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Only person in my class who was even able to do the homework on python

red flare Jan 25, 2018, 4:57 PM

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You mean only person in the class that could ask someone else to do the homework? Lol jk

whole quail Jan 25, 2018, 4:57 PM

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lel

nocturne galleon Jan 25, 2018, 9:02 PM

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@fierce quest Whe nwill there be a beta/

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?

solid kayak Jan 26, 2018, 1:43 AM

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ever had that happen to you guys ?
have an idea, make it work, be happy that you made it work
but then realise how bad whatever you used to make it is for the job ?

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cus thats how I feel right now

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I built this : https://linustechtips.com/main/uploads/monthly_2017_11/image.png.c46cc459512db8940ac6e5940bc6db4b.png

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but its completly unusable due to excel having to load about 1000 graphs and do the math

static kayak Jan 26, 2018, 6:39 AM

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Wtf is that

proper saddle Jan 26, 2018, 7:25 AM

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What am I missing?

📎 unknown.png

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I forgot to delete the file when doing npm install..

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blobunsure

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Nevermind, that didn't fix it either. ;-;

ionic hull Jan 26, 2018, 12:47 PM

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Does anyone know how to proxy ip in nginx

empty dune Jan 26, 2018, 3:37 PM

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Do you mean nginx be the handler of request to a backend apache or similar server?

glossy blaze Jan 26, 2018, 5:01 PM

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Hey does anyone know anything about the noteblockAPI for bukkit minecraft?

nocturne galleon Jan 26, 2018, 5:33 PM

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Hola

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got a python question

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I'm making a theoretical database like kinda an AI kinda thing

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and my friend this this thing where the user can create a new local account for the theoretical database

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and they typed in there user password and stuff like that

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and it would save as a text file in the same folder as the python

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and when they restarted typed existing

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and typed the user and pass they created

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it would work

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He gave me a clue

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f = open or f = create

untold pilot Jan 26, 2018, 5:41 PM

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uh

nocturne galleon Jan 26, 2018, 5:41 PM

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@untold pilot

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This is what I need to know

ionic hull Jan 26, 2018, 5:45 PM

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@empty dune thanks for the interest, already got it

empty dune Jan 26, 2018, 5:46 PM

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Noice

untold pilot Jan 26, 2018, 5:46 PM

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eggs

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d

nocturne galleon Jan 27, 2018, 2:54 AM

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Heyeyeyey I need help in Unity

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I have a mesh of a character I want to upload into VR chat

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Everything is fine

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except the character is nude under the clotches

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I can edit the textures no problem but does unity have an integrated mesh editor? I'd like to just edit the model but I can't figure out how without having to reimport it into unity

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(if not then Ill scrap it and get something safe to upload)

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OK nevermind, found a plugin that might do the job

torn remnant Jan 27, 2018, 4:10 PM

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https://github.com/clue/php-redis-server

GitHub

clue/php-redis-server

php-redis-server - A Redis server implementation in pure PHP

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What have I just seen?

ionic hull Jan 27, 2018, 5:58 PM

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What is redis

leaden tangle Jan 27, 2018, 6:08 PM

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@ionic hull http://redis.io

ionic hull Jan 27, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Ohh

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Wtf

timid widget Jan 27, 2018, 9:07 PM

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tfw gotta learn how to do async FIFO in js kek

magic kelp Jan 28, 2018, 4:00 AM

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async-await or bust my friend

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it truly will change your life

hybrid wolf Jan 28, 2018, 6:43 AM

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Guys, I wanted to ask that what language should I learn for game development? C# or Java

graceful silo Jan 28, 2018, 9:19 AM

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Of the two, C#

hybrid wolf Jan 28, 2018, 9:58 AM

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okay, thanks

torn remnant Jan 28, 2018, 10:10 AM

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C++ or C#, in that order of priority, though C++ is harder

hybrid wolf Jan 28, 2018, 10:47 AM

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oh!

timid widget Jan 28, 2018, 11:10 AM

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@magic kelp It is async/await https://github.com/Sugarcoated/Fondant/blob/master/src/Actionables/Queue.js

GitHub

Sugarcoated/Fondant

Fondant - Wrappers to be used on the front-end, back-end, whatever end!

hybrid wolf Jan 28, 2018, 11:28 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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well how big is this game? its been too long since i left it for downloading

little knoll Jan 28, 2018, 11:45 AM

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📎 unknown.png

ionic hull Jan 28, 2018, 12:49 PM

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How did fornite get so big

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It is so shit

gritty rain Jan 28, 2018, 10:40 PM

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Is octets French for Bytes

vestal glen Jan 28, 2018, 10:40 PM

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sometimes

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more specifically an octet is always 8 bits

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while a byte isn't always.

whole quail Jan 28, 2018, 11:22 PM

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^

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A byte will be 8 bits almost always

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But it's important to remember that it's not always the case

little knoll Jan 28, 2018, 11:24 PM

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Octet > Bytes
Bits > Bits

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Then you just have to make sure that you are looking at MB (megabytes) or Mb (Megabit). A lot of french ISP tell Internet speed in Mbps/Gbps, I've heard some people complaining about not having this speed when they download something (Like 12MB/s (or 12Mo/s) instead of 100Mbps) because they didn't understand the difference between both and because most of softwares gives a MB/s speed instead of Mbps speed.

proper saddle Jan 29, 2018, 1:33 AM

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I've been learning ReactJS, fun stuff. :V

graceful silo Jan 29, 2018, 4:49 AM

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Anyone have some solid resources for learning C# and .NET?

graceful silo Jan 29, 2018, 5:12 AM

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https://github.com/EbookFoundation/free-programming-books

GitHub

EbookFoundation/free-programming-books

free-programming-books - :books: Freely available programming books

obsidian bluff Jan 29, 2018, 6:49 AM

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100x this

📎 unknown.png

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Same with hard drive sizes

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Uwotm8 why don't I get 2TB when I buy a 2TB disk!? Must be formatting lol

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Turns out windows displays TiB instead of TB

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I've seen people leaving bad reviews on a drive being like: "You shouldn't buy large drives because you lose more storage."

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or: "Where's the 60GB you promised me!? I only got X!"

idle musk Jan 29, 2018, 7:09 AM

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Let the clowns have their small drives, leave the bigger ones for the rest of us.

obsidian bluff Jan 29, 2018, 7:10 AM

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When people expect to get 500 Megabytes per second lol

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Why am I only getting 62.5!?!?!?! that's BS!

idle musk Jan 29, 2018, 7:11 AM

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I'd love that, in need of some serious network card tuning at home.... Or just Linus the damn thing and 10GBe and be done with it.

obsidian bluff Jan 29, 2018, 7:13 AM

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http://www.speedtest.net/result/7009507702.png

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What do you think of my home internet connection 🤔 ?

idle musk Jan 29, 2018, 7:14 AM

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Yeah the best I managed at home was 270/65 or so.

obsidian bluff Jan 29, 2018, 7:14 AM

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My speedtest is basically the meme image.
"guys want only one thing and it's disgusting"

idle musk Jan 29, 2018, 7:15 AM

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My plan is a 100/40 VDSL, I don't get close to that download. Getting a solid 60Mbps though, so it's still better than 90% of the country I suppose

obsidian bluff Jan 29, 2018, 7:15 AM

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That sounds pretty decent

idle musk Jan 29, 2018, 7:16 AM

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I managed to pull just shy of 10TB down for a month and it was still very much usable the whole time XD

obsidian bluff Jan 29, 2018, 7:16 AM

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Yeah no data caps here either

idle musk Jan 29, 2018, 7:17 AM

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I wanted to see if it was truly 'unlimited'

obsidian bluff Jan 29, 2018, 7:17 AM

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Getting off-topic

idle musk Jan 29, 2018, 7:17 AM

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Just a tad

obsidian bluff Jan 29, 2018, 7:18 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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That's actually really low because I don't seed that often

idle musk Jan 29, 2018, 7:19 AM

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Dayum

obsidian bluff Jan 29, 2018, 7:19 AM

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Every few days I'll seed 200GB in a day

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Most I ever seeded in a day was 800GB

idle musk Jan 29, 2018, 7:19 AM

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I was seeding some work backups, uploaded 1.5TB a week or so it seemed for 3 weeks

obsidian bluff Jan 29, 2018, 7:20 AM

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When I first got my internet I asked a friend if I could try to boot him

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He's still on VDSL

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Apparently he got the yellow triangle next to his network adapter

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☠

rocky hamlet Jan 29, 2018, 10:34 AM

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anyone familiar with physics collisions here?

proper saddle Jan 29, 2018, 10:35 AM

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@graceful silo Team Treehouse? But that's not free... :/

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There's Microsoft Virtual Academy, but that'll only teach you the basics.

whole quail Jan 29, 2018, 9:17 PM

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lol my internet is really good when it's working

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90Mbps

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In NZ

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Rurally

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Wirelessly

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And I have 99,350m² wifi coverage at my property

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Upload I can never actually measure accurately

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But it's good enough

raven hatch Jan 29, 2018, 10:23 PM

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ugh i wish i still lived in new zealand, the internet is so much better than uk internet

swift niche Jan 29, 2018, 11:18 PM

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Does anyone know of libraries for C, C++, or Python that handle reading and parsing webpages? I'm trying to read stuff from Ars Technica with their API and have the program understand what the article says

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almost like a neural network

whole quail Jan 29, 2018, 11:28 PM

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List of things you don't need a nueral network for: Almost everything including that

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Just find keywords in the data and do some matching

swift niche Jan 29, 2018, 11:38 PM

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I'm trying to have this program read articles about companies with stocks or cryptocurrencies, then use those articles to plot why something may have gone up or down in price

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So if an article says "crash" and "rise" in it, I don't want it to misread the article's "meaning"

whole quail Jan 30, 2018, 12:14 AM

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You're gonna need a lot of resources to get any meaningful results

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And if you have the resources to do it you should already know how to do it

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It's not something you can just do without a lot of resources

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Try a smaller project first

swift niche Jan 30, 2018, 12:19 AM

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lol was hoping someone had built a library I utilize

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thanks for the info! I guess I'll figure something else out

whole quail Jan 30, 2018, 12:21 AM

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Even if there's a library to help, it's not going to do any good for you

ionic hull Jan 30, 2018, 12:49 AM

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Just do some data matching with words

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Scrape a lot of websites, and get the latest stock

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Once you have a lot of data you can start thinking about neural networks

small escarp Jan 30, 2018, 4:16 AM

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beautifulsoup is a python scraper, but from that to "AI that reads an article and figures out the meaning" there's a hundred years of research

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for the latter, if you don't already have some very strong ideas about how to go about it, the project is way too big

swift niche Jan 30, 2018, 5:33 AM

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I fuess the most I really need is to be able to read and understand the article's title

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because something that says "Bitcoin on the rise again after the crash" would need to be read as a "positive", while "Bitcoin crashes after recent rise" would need to be read as "negative"

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so I'm looking for something that can do that

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@small escarp I'm planning on using beautifulsoup for sites that don't have API's, it's damn amazing

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@ionic hull I can probably pull every article I'd need from Yahoo Finance, Ars Technica, and maybe even Robinhood, I just gotta parse it 😆

whole quail Jan 30, 2018, 5:49 AM

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I 110% agree with @small escarp

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You can just do some keyword stuff to get most of what you want

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But doing it with AI is really difficult if you don't already know how to do it

nocturne galleon Jan 30, 2018, 6:52 AM

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my internet so frustrating because my server slot gets 10gbps (more like 2gbps though realistically) and my home connection to ftp from it is only 50/12 mbps

swift niche Jan 30, 2018, 3:25 PM

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@small escarp @whole quail know of any particularly good keyword search libraries in C, C++, or Python? I don't mind writing my own, but it's definitely preferable to have something already out there that I can modify

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@nocturne galleon are you using ethernet on both ends? This is probably a question for the Networking chat lol

solid horizon Jan 30, 2018, 3:33 PM

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@nocturne galleon you sure your home connection is equally fast though? you can only transfer at the lowest speed limit of the 2

nocturne galleon Jan 30, 2018, 3:50 PM

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yeah thats what i mean my home internet is 50/12 and my server slot is 10000/10000

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so server normally downloads a big file at around 250MB/s and my home internet maxes out at 5MB/s

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anyway sorry for typing in wrong subdiscord

proper saddle Jan 30, 2018, 5:03 PM

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I found out about this last night at a .Net meetup of all things. https://github.com/tc39/ecma262

GitHub

tc39/ecma262

ecma262 - Status, process, and documents for ECMA262

obsidian bluff Jan 30, 2018, 7:13 PM

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subdiscord

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I think it's called a channel

whole quail Jan 30, 2018, 8:23 PM

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@swift niche no just make your own

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You can't just use a library for everything

winged zodiac Jan 31, 2018, 8:25 AM

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Anyone know of decent css grid code to do a 2x2 or 4x4

calm oriole Jan 31, 2018, 9:14 AM

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@winged zodiac Try looking for Flexbox Grid

zinc briar Jan 31, 2018, 3:50 PM

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hi guys, this isn t really dev but how do you delete a nagios user on debian?

empty dune Jan 31, 2018, 3:52 PM

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Is it a nagios user or a linux user?

zinc briar Jan 31, 2018, 3:52 PM

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nagios

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i created it without the -c in the command

empty dune Jan 31, 2018, 3:53 PM

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did you use htpasswd to create the user then?

zinc briar Jan 31, 2018, 3:53 PM

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yep

empty dune Jan 31, 2018, 3:53 PM

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htpasswd -D <user> <password file>

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oops

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htpasswd -D <passwd file> <user>

zinc briar Jan 31, 2018, 3:54 PM

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so i need to find the file ? 🤔

empty dune Jan 31, 2018, 3:54 PM

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check /usr/local/nagios/etc/htpasswd.users

zinc briar Jan 31, 2018, 3:56 PM

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hm nothing in /usr/local that looks like nagios

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i find it

empty dune Jan 31, 2018, 3:57 PM

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try /usr/local/

zinc briar Jan 31, 2018, 3:58 PM

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i checkec there is no nagios file

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there is a htpasswd.users in /etc/nagios3/

empty dune Jan 31, 2018, 3:58 PM

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cat that file and see if there are users in there.

zinc briar Jan 31, 2018, 3:59 PM

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yep it's in it

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thanks

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noice

empty dune Jan 31, 2018, 4:00 PM

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okie

zinc briar Jan 31, 2018, 4:01 PM

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...

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i m stupid

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i created it with the passwd file in the command so it was obviously where i put it -_-

empty dune Jan 31, 2018, 4:04 PM

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I was just about to ask what you used in the htpasswd command

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but you had already found it

zinc briar Jan 31, 2018, 4:42 PM

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so i have another problem

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i can't reload nagios3 and the service won't start when i start debian

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it tells me to checkl journalctl -xn or systemctl status nagios3.service and when i do i can see "failed to start LSB: nagios host/service/network monitorinf and management system"

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but i found nothing with this and i don't know what to do

calm oriole Jan 31, 2018, 7:31 PM

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@zinc briar if you still can't start it try nagios -v /etc/nagios.cfg (correct the path if needed .. just a guess)

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This should check your configs and report errors

zinc briar Jan 31, 2018, 7:33 PM

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doesn't work

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error processing main config file

calm oriole Jan 31, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Normally it should report the line number er element that's wrong

zinc briar Jan 31, 2018, 7:34 PM

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it says cannot open the file for reading so nothing

calm oriole Jan 31, 2018, 7:36 PM

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Then check the path for the config file .. could also be like /etc/nagios3/nagios.cfg

zinc briar Jan 31, 2018, 7:41 PM

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now it says there is "invalid object definition type 'hostgroups' in file <path>/hostgroups_nagios2.cfg which is a file created by the system

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so it indicates the line but i can't see what's wrong

empty dune Jan 31, 2018, 7:58 PM

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check brackets and stuff for the group that is in and around the line that throws the error

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I don't know if there are brackets. I am just guessing.

zinc briar Jan 31, 2018, 8:17 PM

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i removed a "s" at hostgroups and it's okay but still can't load nagios

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ow

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it looks like it may work

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oh damn it works YES

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thank you @empty dune @calm oriole

calm oriole Jan 31, 2018, 8:25 PM

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Nice 😉

empty dune Jan 31, 2018, 8:26 PM

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\o/ 😃

zinc briar Jan 31, 2018, 8:27 PM

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i was about to kill myself it was so much destroying my nuts

proper saddle Feb 1, 2018, 2:13 AM

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📎 Ljgxt5n.png

empty dune Feb 1, 2018, 2:21 AM

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lul

timber violet Feb 1, 2018, 3:29 AM

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I've gotten points off on projects for putting braces on the same line

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Honestly I prefer same line, but I don't get mad about newline

empty dune Feb 1, 2018, 3:30 AM

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I also prefer same line {

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A lot of people prefer \n{

graceful silo Feb 1, 2018, 3:33 AM

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{
    kill(programmer);
}
else {
    reward(programmer);
}```
Or even better
```if (programmer.isBad()
    kill(programmer);
else
    reward(programmer);```

small escarp Feb 1, 2018, 3:35 AM

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when I started out, I preferred same line

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but I always ended up adding an extra blank line in functions (not in ifs) [if I remember correctly it was to make documentation comments at the top of the function more easily readable]

fresh dune Feb 1, 2018, 3:36 AM

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The reality is it's personal preference it makes zero difference to the compiler

graceful silo Feb 1, 2018, 3:37 AM

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Next line is such a waste of space

small escarp Feb 1, 2018, 3:37 AM

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so eventually I said fuck it and filled the extra blank line with the brace

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so new line for functions and classes (and documentable things), same line for everything else 😃

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in any case, I have no issues with brace positioning

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but please use braces.... always

timber violet Feb 1, 2018, 3:39 AM

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I always put documentation above the function

small escarp Feb 1, 2018, 3:39 AM

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those dangling ifs always end up in freaking bugs when someone adds an extra line

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and forgets to include the new braces

graceful silo Feb 1, 2018, 3:40 AM

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I only use braces when needed.

small escarp Feb 1, 2018, 3:40 AM

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yes, I typically use doc before function, but some languages prefer it the other wway around

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gotta follow those guidelines

graceful silo Feb 1, 2018, 3:41 AM

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Why waste space and time doing

    System.out.println("Cats are better than dogs.");
}```
when you could just do
```if (cats < dogs)
    System.out.println("Incorrect.");```

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Sure it's only one line (or two if you're bad), but it can add up

timber violet Feb 1, 2018, 3:42 AM

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Copy and pasting is a bit easier with brackets

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I hate trying to copy python code, it always messes up

small escarp Feb 1, 2018, 3:44 AM

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because this

if (cats < dogs)
  System.out.println("Incorrect.")

then becomes (a thousand commits later)

if (cats < dogs)
  System.out.println("Incorrect.")
  throw new Exception("False premise!!! Catz are equal to D0GS!!")

and everything catches fire when production starts raising a fucking exception which shouldn't be raised xP

graceful silo Feb 1, 2018, 3:44 AM

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Well, certainly one issue you'll run into is the missing semicolons lol

small escarp Feb 1, 2018, 3:45 AM

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oops

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😃

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it's J-- [semicolon edition], my own version of Java

graceful silo Feb 1, 2018, 3:45 AM

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If you need more than one line in the statement, then slap some brackety bois on there, otherwise, meh

timber violet Feb 1, 2018, 3:46 AM

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That's fair,

graceful silo Feb 1, 2018, 3:46 AM

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Everyone has their own preferences

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My preference is the absence of any and all comments kappa

small escarp Feb 1, 2018, 3:47 AM

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yeah, everyone needs to adapt to the team's guideline

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and everything will be fine

graceful silo Feb 1, 2018, 3:47 AM

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The less I comment, the bigger of a fuck you I say to anyone trying to read my code xD

timber violet Feb 1, 2018, 3:48 AM

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I did something similar to my teachers... I would try to fit as much as I could into one line

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Crazy lambdas and stuff

graceful silo Feb 1, 2018, 3:49 AM

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Write every program on one line

timber violet Feb 1, 2018, 3:49 AM

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Exactly

graceful silo Feb 1, 2018, 3:49 AM

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the best one-liner

small escarp Feb 1, 2018, 3:50 AM

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write very bad Java and add a note at the end which reads "It's in Whitespace, the programming language"

proper saddle Feb 1, 2018, 3:53 AM

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var a = (programmer.isBad()) ? kill(programmer) : reward(programmer);
a;

graceful silo Feb 1, 2018, 3:54 AM

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That works too. Probably could skip the parenthesis around programmer.isBad()

proper saddle Feb 1, 2018, 3:55 AM

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It makes it more readable IMO.

small escarp Feb 1, 2018, 4:29 AM

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you have a type inference error

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kill will return a Corpse, but reward will return a Money

proper saddle Feb 1, 2018, 4:37 AM

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return (programmer.isBad()) ? kill(programmer) : reward(programmer);

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Console.WriteLine((programmer.isBad()) ? kill(programmer) : reward(programmer));

winged zodiac Feb 1, 2018, 8:24 AM

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.

scarlet storm Feb 1, 2018, 11:45 AM

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Not 100% sure if this is the right place to ask, but is anyone here experienced in autohotkey scripting?

little knoll Feb 1, 2018, 11:46 AM

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Tarran"s macro keyboards strockes at distance

proper saddle Feb 1, 2018, 2:27 PM

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Whitespace™
Whitespace uses only whitespace characters (space, tab, and return), ignoring all other characters. This is the reverse of many traditional languages, which do not distinguish between different whitespace characters, treating tab and space the same. It also allows Whitespace programs to be hidden in the source code of programs in languages like C.

zinc briar Feb 1, 2018, 6:18 PM

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Hi, how can we see line per line with the command && ls on debian? cause i'm looking for something (i don't know the exact name of the file) but there are so much files that i can't see all of them

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i mean, i see only the end of the list because i can't go up to see other out-of screen stuff

little knoll Feb 1, 2018, 6:53 PM

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You mean a command that is like *something* && ls ?

zinc briar Feb 1, 2018, 7:01 PM

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i mean whatever it's okay

little knoll Feb 1, 2018, 7:38 PM

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https://linode.com/docs/tools-reference/tools/find-files-in-linux-using-the-command-line/

Linode Guides & Tutorials

Find Files in Linux, Using the Command Line

Use the Find command from the Linux command line to locate files in a file system

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You could test for filenames that could be the one you search

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Or just use ls | more to be able to scroll to a next page with spacebar

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Better explained here : https://superuser.com/questions/682128/list-files-of-folder-page-by-page-with-ls-command

List files of folder page by page with LS command

I'm wonder if there is some way to list all files of a folder by ls, I know how to use ls for a folders which are small but if list of files doesn't match with the screen size what should I do? the...

winged zodiac Feb 1, 2018, 8:24 PM

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Can somebody plz help me Im trying to make a galerry but I cant get one working

little knoll Feb 1, 2018, 8:29 PM

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What language/framework ?

winged zodiac Feb 1, 2018, 8:40 PM

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html/css NO CSS-GRID

ionic hull Feb 1, 2018, 11:06 PM

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Use bootstrap

open harbor Feb 2, 2018, 9:44 AM

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Does anyone here have experience using g_mass_storage on linux?

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I'm trying to use a pi zero to create a virtual USB using g_mass_storage

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that's alright

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but having issues mounting it inside of pi

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like I can mount it, but it doesn't correlate to what's on the 'USB'

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I've been following Page 55 of this: https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi-issues/MagPi60.pdf, but don't want the exact config

small escarp Feb 2, 2018, 1:59 PM

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how did you copy the contents into the virtual drive?

royal sonnet Feb 2, 2018, 5:07 PM

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Could anyone help me with a Python project i have been working on for a while. Dm me if you can please!

latent perch Feb 2, 2018, 5:15 PM

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how can I remove an item in an array, not just make it null or empty (in JS)

small escarp Feb 2, 2018, 5:28 PM

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splice

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@royal sonnet do tell what it is about

royal sonnet Feb 2, 2018, 5:32 PM

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@small escarp Thanks, i think i figured out what i need to do now

nocturne tusk Feb 2, 2018, 5:37 PM

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Let's say that I have html table that has 8 table headers. How would you guys show the table on mobile devices? Because it's not going to look good on mobile devices with the table full width. Or should I try to find another solution to show content of the big table

dawn geyser Feb 2, 2018, 5:42 PM

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im going to assume you want it readable ? :p

nocturne tusk Feb 2, 2018, 5:42 PM

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yes, that's correct

dawn geyser Feb 2, 2018, 5:43 PM

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it would depend on the data you want to show, depends on how you could transform it i guess

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multiple tabs for each column would work

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if its 1 row of data, you could just make it like a list

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however im guessing its not that

nocturne tusk Feb 2, 2018, 5:44 PM

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Yeah, it has multiple rows (fetched from mysql database)

dawn geyser Feb 2, 2018, 5:44 PM

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on the other hand, even on a mobile device, people can still scroll 😃

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i personally dont mind scrolling across a table of data like that on a call phone

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cell *

nocturne tusk Feb 2, 2018, 5:46 PM

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if I don't find any other good solutions I'm going to make it so that user has to scroll the table

dawn geyser Feb 2, 2018, 5:46 PM

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another option, again its all based on use case, you could remove columns of "non required" data the smaller the page gets

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as an example, you might have Firstname|Lastname|Email|Telephone|Address but you can remove some of the columns and show only the most required data

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with an option to expand and make it scrollable

nocturne tusk Feb 2, 2018, 5:53 PM

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the table has user information:

That's a good point, I could in theory leave out some cells.

dawn geyser Feb 2, 2018, 5:53 PM

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if thats the case, then my recommendation (based on it sounds like an admin section for a site)

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would be to reduce the number of columns, and make them clickable to take you to a user information page with your buttons

nocturne tusk Feb 2, 2018, 6:00 PM

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I didn't think about that but I believe that your suggestion might be the best solution. I will reduce the number of columns and make the rows clickable (and when the row is clicked then forward to user information page). Thanks a lot! (and yeah it is admin section for a site)

dawn geyser Feb 2, 2018, 6:06 PM

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no worries, im sure there are plenty of other solutions also, its just what works best / is easily doable for yourself. That would just be what i personally would do for a similar use case.

small escarp Feb 2, 2018, 6:22 PM

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also, swipe to delete/edit/more details is a common interface in mobile

nocturne tusk Feb 2, 2018, 6:23 PM

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@small escarp should I then use javascript to listen for swiping?

small escarp Feb 2, 2018, 6:23 PM

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it all depends on the complexity you're willing to go with for this particular project

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(and yes, you would use javascript, usually a gesture library)

dawn geyser Feb 2, 2018, 6:31 PM

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i like that idea myself too

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it does like dave said depend on complexity / time restrictions / known how etc to determine how much effort you want to put in

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where i work we have some tight deadlines so i dont get the benefit sometimes of doing things how i would like, and just get it functional and working 😃

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im also not a FE development, im more of a BE / DB person

nocturne tusk Feb 2, 2018, 6:35 PM

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I'm not very familiar with JavaScript gesture libraries. Let's say that I would like to have delete option when swiping from right to left and edit option when swiping from left to right. What would be good JavaScript gesture library that I could take a look at? Time isn't big problem because this is a school project and we have plenty of time left

vestal glen Feb 2, 2018, 6:38 PM

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recommends the ominous vanilla.js for simple swipes. But else https://www.npmjs.com/package/hammerjs is pretty neat and broadly used.

npm

hammerjs

A javascript library for multi-touch gestures

nocturne tusk Feb 2, 2018, 6:39 PM

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Thanks I will take look at those two options!

small escarp Feb 2, 2018, 6:48 PM

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@nocturne tusk vanilla.js is an community joke to say "just javascript"

vestal glen Feb 2, 2018, 6:48 PM

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(and raw DOM APIs, yes)

small escarp Feb 2, 2018, 6:48 PM

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in the sense that people use too many frameworks to solve simple problems