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brittle forum
dense shard
I think your car saved you if you were starting to have lift off over steer.
But generally you press and hold the stability control button.
I just keep my TC on.
If I ever need it off, I'll do it then.
brittle forum
I was doing fine till it kicked in
dense shard
I just take it easy these days. Not that the roads around here have many/any turns.
civic girder
I've broke the RX-7 loose a few times
Not on purpose ofc
Saved it bc good reaction
No TC or SC is fun until it isn't
worn swallow
Is that yours in your profile pic?
civic girder
@worn swallow yes
fathom socket
i saw a cygnet irl once
ive seen 3 smart roadsters im my entire lifetime i quite like em for some reason
dull parrot
civic girder
oof
worn swallow
@civic girder clean
civic girder
thx
worn swallow
How’s that rotary doin?
worn swallow
I love that body style of the RX-7
civic girder
Yea, its a fantastic shape and design
civic girder
Indeed
I just ordered some fog lights for it yesterday
Tomorrow I am going to a buddy's place to fix the handbrake and get my exhaust fixed
once I can justify the cost, I am going to swap the cat for a resonator and get a new header
I'm also toying with the idea of retrofitting a rev buzzer since the S2s don't have one
ok, spam is over lol
Living that dream car life. Just need to collect more of my dream cars
worn swallow
Yeah I’ve personally been working on a 06 Mustang GT
Got it for really cheap just needs a new engine
worn swallow
Lmao
civic girder
I think one of the bois in the first gen rx7 discord is putting a 12A in a Foxbody
and he has an FC
Mustangs are interesting. idk how to feel about them most of the time
To each their own I suppose. As far as Fords go I'd rather have a Crown Victoria or an Escort Cosworth
pure aurora
i recently got a jeep grand Cherokee from 1997 not what i wanted but what i could afford. any advice on making it more fun, i dont wanna do big tires or big suspension for it.
civic girder
personally, the fun I have with cars is the experience of them
Doing little things here and there to fix them or make them a bit better, and just drive them
pure aurora
ya steering joint on it is loose about to get that fixed
civic girder
Nothing crazy or big for mods. Just maintenance, repairs, and cheap/small/easy upgrades/mods to improve upon the stock state without changing much
pure aurora
ya
civic girder
So stuff like exhaust, adding fog lights, upgrading speakers, upgrading cooling system, etc
My wildest plans for a car are still pretty tame tbh
pure aurora
like i know i need exhaust the pipe is rusted out at the end and everything else is going i just bought it waiting on the dmv now, there are fog lights from factory i think their fine speakers are blown out, i have a set i need to just put in, cooling system i think is fine maybe need a new plug for the radiator bc 22 years old
civic girder
I would replace all the coolant hoses and clamps, new water pump, new thermostat, new radiator cap, and potentially a new radiator if its busted or not quite adequate
indigo coral
when are you gonna get the hood repainted?
civic girder
Don't forget to change filters, spark plugs, probably coil packs, and anything else like that
when are you gonna get the hood repainted?
@indigo coral when I paint the rest of the car
indigo coral
Gonna pay someone or diy?
pure aurora
i can do a walk around the engine bay record it and send it what do you use to upload your videos
worn swallow
What color you thinkin?
civic girder
I usually use Streamable
indigo coral
I had looked into getting new bumpers for my car and getting them painted and noped out of that real fast
1k$+ just for paint
Plus about 250$ for two new bumpers
I can live with it
Lol
worn swallow
What car?
indigo coral
99 RX 300
civic girder
What color you thinkin?
Factory color and replicate the factory pinstripe. And reapply the factory side trim after repainting it flat black
worn swallow
Nice
civic girder
I like the mostly stock aesthetic of cars
worn swallow
Agreed
civic girder
personally not a fan of restomods and shit
pure aurora
allright, the clamps look good hoses look good pump ill be haivng looked at filters i need to look at still, spark plugs coil packs and cables all have been done.
indigo coral
previous owner had ahem encounters with a planter box and a bench
front was planter box, back was bench
civic girder
hoses are probably prehistoric
indigo coral
🤣
civic girder
mine were original, and while usable, could have blown at any time
pure aurora
mine are sturdy and like new
civic girder
see my buddy's old Jetta that blew out the upper radiator hose and nearly overheated
pure aurora
ouch
civic girder
if they're soft and don't have visible dry rot, then they're fine
pure aurora
ye
civic girder
but you should probably flush the coolant and replace the thermostat regardless
pure aurora
here let me go and do a engine bay walk around and record
civic girder
okie
pure aurora
@civic girder can I give you a video call?
civic girder
uh, sure I guess lol
dense shard
civic girder
lmfao
dense shard
" any advice on making it more fun"
Yes. Wash it and wax it.
Maintain it, and go on drives when you feel like it. Gas is cheap right now.
Maybe put fuzzy dice in it.
civic girder
yea pretty much
when leaving cars stock (or very close to stock in my case), a lot of the fun is in what you do with the car; not in what you do to the car
putting on miles, road tripping with friends, taking pictures in cool little places you find while out on the road, go on cruises with friends
and just the work and love you put into keeping it on the road and in good condition
The Prius is gutless and boring, every "car guy" hates them. Yet I couldn't love mine more. The memories I've made with that car, the places I've been, the work (and money) I've put into maintaining it, and the exercise of driving as efficiently as possible all amount to the fun I have with what is ordinarily seen as a completely utilitarian appliance.
manic isle
how reliable are audi's?
pure aurora
allright
will do
how reliable are audi's?
@manic isle
quite till they break
there just a bit more to maintain then others
manic isle
i'm looking at 2017 q7's
i see good things in the reviews on them but needed to ask an actual person
indigo coral
my aunt is trading in her 2016 Q7 in favor of a Rav4 if that gives you an indication
manic isle
oh um
welp
ok
rn im between a 2018 mdx or the 2017 q7 theyre both about the same price
civic girder
Rav4 Hybrid
manic isle
?
dense shard
I'd go for the MDX tbh.
It'll run longer, better, and do it for less.
Also if it has the SH-AWD, no brainer.
unkempt sedge
rn im between a 2018 mdx or the 2017 q7 theyre both about the same price
@manic isle Q7
manic isle
i think its about 33k, it says n/a cuz theyre shipping it to my local carmax
unkempt sedge
Audi has great service departments as well, and they actually do a good job
In my experience^
manic isle
pure aurora
Close enough to say do you want the 2 grand for insurance, gas, dmv, or spend it on a over all better car,
unkempt sedge
Also Acura’s infotainment is terrible
manic isle
unkempt sedge
Close enough to say do you want the 2 grand for insurance, gas, dmv, or spend it on a over all better car,
@pure aurora ^
unkempt sedge
Aha ok
Yeah ok
premium plus looks great inside and out
It’ll drive good, be nice and have low miles
manic isle
i'd rather have the lower miles than bells and whistles
pure aurora
Another you can do your self at that point
manic isle
yeah only thing is my parents are iffy about the audi cuz they have only owned hondas and toyotas and acuras
pure aurora
Ya manganese is a bit more but if you keep up on it they won't break
manic isle
thats what ive read
and honestly the interior on the audi is so much nicer for not much more
dense shard
I wouldn't get the Audi.
It will break sooner than later, and be expensive to fix again.
I would absolutely get the Acura. I sincerely doubt it's any worse to drive.
pure aurora
Not entirely true its mostly lack of matnance that kills cars
civic girder
^
manic isle
ive heard that the acuras are very comfortable to drive
unkempt sedge
It was all right, if you treat the car right it won’t break
civic girder
even my friend's base af E46 sedan is expensive to fix
dense shard
Okay?
unkempt sedge
Only sold it for muh Lexus
dense shard
And how much did it cost for say... an oil change?
unkempt sedge
Had a 2014 A6
manic isle
And how much did it cost for say... an oil change?
@dense shard change it urself not hard to do
pure aurora
My ford fusion is expensive to fix
unkempt sedge
Lel yeah
dense shard
It's hard to do if you live in an apartment.
unkempt sedge
I don’t...?
manic isle
true
dense shard
I'm contractually obligated to not change my oil at my place right now.
civic girder
his oil filters cost $12, and it takes a lot of oil even for the engine size
dense shard
So three times more than it was for me.
unkempt sedge
I changed mine
civic girder
like 7L of oil for a 3L L6, like bruh
pure aurora
You can also get discounts for buying filter and oil at the same time or at least I do
manic isle
i have the ability to change it myself easily so that helps with maintenence costs
civic girder
(idk exact engine capacity), but its still nuts
dense shard
Well look... if you're set on the Audi, why even ask?
pure aurora
7 quarts is industry standard in Germany generally
civic girder
Its a 2.5L L6 that takes 7L of oil............
dense shard
Test drive them.
dense shard
Based on some basic research.
The Acura will be cheaper in the long run.
And at this point both cars are a generation or two behind in infotainment.
It will suck to use before 2025.
unkempt sedge
Acura is way further doe
manic isle
acura is alot farther behind
unkempt sedge
The dual screen is terrible
pure aurora
Ya Acura also had more miles right?
dense shard
It won't matter once you hit a decade in either car.
civic girder
Japanese cars are always cheaper to run, even a luxury version
unkempt sedge
My dad’s friend had a similar MDX
dense shard
Because the MDX is just a minivan.
unkempt sedge
Basically unusable
dense shard
And the Qwhatever is just a Tiguan.
unkempt sedge
Well tbf
unkempt sedge
Everything is on MBT for Volkswagen now
manic isle
we have a '03 mdx rn and were gonna trade our 2012 pilot in for whatever we get
dense shard
Mild Ball Torture?
unkempt sedge
They need three rows lol
manic isle
@dense shard i need 3 rows
unkempt sedge
uwu yes
unkempt sedge
Y
dense shard
midsized crossovers are going to murder the 3rd row passengers if they're older than 5.
dense shard
Just because you can fit someone there doesn't mean they'll want to be there.
civic girder
Not even that
manic isle
well im gonna be the one in the back im basically car shopping for my family
unkempt sedge
Or a Pacifica
dense shard
Get a Sienna. They even come in AWD, will run forever, and hold 3 rows easy.
ew
Chrysler.
dense shard
I'd skip on the Pacifica.
civic girder
^
dense shard
Trick seats, crap car.
civic girder
Only get the Pacifica Hybrid
dense shard
I hear those are worse.
dense shard
Yeah but you add complexity and weight for no real fuel economy gain.
And a chrysler WILL break.
civic girder
the Hybrid is actually a decent car, especially for a Chrysler
pure aurora
Excuse me
manic isle
basically the third row for me only will get used on road trips and when we take ppl places but its needed, a 5 passenger car wont cut it
dense shard
Car and Driver didn't have a good experience with their example.
civic girder
no real fuel economy gain.
What? Based on what?
dense shard
Shit I've read.
manic isle
and minivan is big no no my parents will never get another one
dense shard
Also for the love of god
If you are going to road trip, a mid size crossover will not be enough.
civic girder
I barely got 22mpg in a gas only Pacifica, but get 35 in the Hybrid.
pure aurora
And a chrysler WILL break.
@dense shard
Just got a 1997 jeep grand cherokee runs like new plus squeaky belt
civic girder
The Hybrid Pacifica is actually really nice
manic isle
ok here what is a suv with 3 rows that is nice for around 30-35k
preferable about 2-3 years old
dense shard
Tahoe
civic girder
Like yea, its a Chrysler, eventually it will shit itself and rust into a million pieces; but it will be a nice car until that happens
pure aurora
Again maintaining a vehicle it will run for a long time
dense shard
I can't think of a single SUV I'd want to sit in for more than an hour.
manic isle
for example my dads mdx has 180k miles and runs like a dream
dense shard
GMC Acadia has a lot of room in the back?
civic girder
I had a rental gas Pacifica on a work trip last year, it was garbage.
My mom owns a Pacifica Hybrid, its nice.
pure aurora
I would not say so for the Acadia those are small
unkempt sedge
Don’t get an acadia lmao
dense shard
It's bigger than a Q6 or whatever from what I hear.
pure aurora
Smaller than wrangler
civic girder
imagine thinking anything GM is worth the money
(Outside of the Tahoe and Silverado)
dense shard
VW things their products are worth something.
unkempt sedge
They’re not comfortable and there are a larger amount of lemons
unkempt sedge
VW didn’t go bankrupt
dense shard
It nearly did.
civic girder
Not to mention Dieselgate
dense shard
And then took a 15 billion dollar hit lying to the public.
unkempt sedge
Yeah fair
unkempt sedge
Does this include Porsche Bugatti and Lamborghini
civic girder
My friend's 06 Passat TDI was nice, until it started to fall apart despite him caring for it really well
dense shard
Kia Telluride and Hyundai Pallisade are probably the best of the segment.
pure aurora
Heh emissions, whats that, nothing....
civic girder
What about the Subaru Ascent
dense shard
Big Subaru?
civic girder
yea the giant one
pure aurora
Kinda
indigo coral
it has like 17 cupholders
dense shard
It looks pretty big.
civic girder
I mean, its still smaller than a Tahoe but still very sizeable
dense shard
then again the new Outback is also pretty fucking huge.
pure aurora
Dimensions: 197″ L x 76″ W x 72″ H
dense shard
The Tahoe isn't that big inside.
Sold axle out back really cuts into the room inside I hear.... new one fixes that.
And costs 60k new.
civic girder
The Tahoe is also basically just a shortbed truck with rear seats instead of a bed
dense shard
Not anymore.
civic girder
oh?
dense shard
New generation introduces a independent rear suspension.
pure aurora
Oh God those blew up in size think extended bed
unkempt sedge
Too much tho yeah
dense shard
Yeah, but overpriced to hell and back.
civic girder
f a n c y
unkempt sedge
New navigator doe
civic girder
I'd rather get a Ford Excursion
pure aurora
No no ford mine broke at 136k
dense shard
If you can find one with less than half a million miles, sure.
civic girder
If you can find one with less than half a million miles, sure.
true
dense shard
lol
unkempt sedge
Lmaoooo excursion
civic girder
Reliable af tho
dense shard
Excursions have a cult following.
civic girder
no the V10 is garbage
unkempt sedge
I power stroke every night bruh
dense shard
That sweet sweet 7.3 liter diesel.
unkempt sedge
Don’t need a car to do it too
civic girder
the PowerStroke Excursions are basically indestructible lol
unkempt sedge
Yuh
dense shard
Or take two cars for road trips.
civic girder
there's a reason they all have like 500k miles 😂
dense shard
Make your friends take their car, and get yourself something nice.
dense shard
I'd probably just get an F150.
civic girder
Cheaper, but less cool
dense shard
Those can tow more than enough at this point.
pure aurora
Oh thats a big truck
dense shard
dunno. That 3.5L ecoboost is potent.
civic girder
I'd get it purely because diesel
unkempt sedge
F-450 platinum
dense shard
Only reason to get an F250 is that new 7.3 gas engine they have.
pure aurora
Get that v6 out of here
unkempt sedge
$100,000
dense shard
That V6 tows more than a 6.2L GM whatever.
civic girder
a newer F-150 wouldn't be on my list to check out
dense shard
Ford got really fancy with the new one.
civic girder
Yea I know
dense shard
And seems they actually pulled the hybrid thing off.
dense shard
Each year Tesla doesn't release the cybertruck, Ford tightens their dominance.
The PowerBoost™️ or whatever it's called can apparently run a lot of power tools.
civic girder
I would get one, but I'd rather get an Excursion or F-250 of the same generation. Why? Simply because I prefer older cars in most cases, and the 7.3L PowerStronk is diesel and strong
civic girder
so is almost anything older
dense shard
Thing is a lot of newer things are also faster, better on gas, and just better.
Big trucks never got the better on gas thing down all the way.
civic girder
Yea, but I'd still rather get something older. Because for some reason I'm just too smoothbrain to actually want the better things
dense shard
And honestly... quality wise?
I'm not seeing much of a difference outside of fancy leather seats.
Hard plastic interiors, no real style, just... a screen in places of a radio.
civic girder
I dislike leather seats
dense shard
I've learned to live with em.
civic girder
It would actually be a turn off for me in any new car
dense shard
Partially because they're not leather.
And the Corolla has cloth inserts in the seats.
civic girder
Doesn't matter. The fake leather they use is just as bad
dense shard
It's comfy.
civic girder
I can't stand it
dense shard
I have no complaints. Beats having to lather, massage, and moisturize.
Just wipe down.
civic girder
A dealer would have to drop the price considerably for me to consider a vehicle with leather seats
indigo coral
wut, leather seats are SO much better than cloth tho
dense shard
Honestly. I prefer cloth.
civic girder
I'd literally be that guy who requests they bring in another car
dense shard
But it wasn't a deal breaker for me.
After all... the seats are heated and electric. 
indigo coral
i prefer leather bc you can clean it unlike cloth, and the leather feels way nicer
plus heated + cooled seats is so nice
dense shard
Well my seats are discoloring a bit.
civic girder
I'm a stickler for little things.
indigo coral
cloth seats just feel chintzy
dense shard
I just life cloth in summer and winter.
civic girder
I've never once thought a cloth seats felt cheap or low quality
civic girder
hell, my friend's 89 Crown Vic with Velour seats is the most comfortable car I've ever been in
dense shard
Velour is kinda chintzy imo. lol
civic girder
Velour is the best material wdym
dense shard
Tho I'm not sure I like the seats made out of discarded gym shorts.
I don't know if seat material choice is a hill worth dying on.
civic girder
I desperately want to reupholster the RX-7's seats so I can finally sit on velour like god intended me to
but money :(
dense shard
I'm a bit annoyed that Toyota claims the seats in my car are leather.
They're not.
Which is good. Cause they're more durable than leather.
civic girder
¯_(ツ)_/¯
idk, I would rather buy the right car the first time
I spend so much time driving that I don't want something I don't like
as I mentioned earlier, I'm a stickler for small things even if its inconvenient
I will always stand by velour being the best material. Its soft, its comfy, its nice. The dash covers I bought are obviously cheap, but they feel really nice.
if a rusty 89 Vic with original Velour seats is the most comfy car I've been in, something has to be right about it
dense shard
I've been satisfied with most cars I've driven daily.
Honda Accord was great.
Suzuki Cervo was better than it should have been... but the Corolla is almost sinful.
okay... and the Rogue is quite comfortable.
manic isle
i like my familys 2012 pilot
sometimes
it rides like shit half the time and eats tires
dense shard
The Rogue is a couch with wheels.
unkempt sedge
Saturn was good
fathom socket
My traction control just tried to Kill me because it kicked in when I was going around a corner having fun like you do and my car started to lift off over steer
Sounds like every car with traction control enable i have ever driven.
stoic ledge
My car has too little power for the TC to engage 
fathom socket
My car has no traction control
But the only one I driven
I had the same thing
I think the only way to disable it would be to pull out the Fuse
civic spoke
I just need to press a button to disable traction control.
Hold it to disable traction, and stability control.
civic spoke
Disabling it only makes me realize how much I want an LSD.
stoic ledge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTsTyxg5eJQ
Quite fun to watch
Disabling it only makes me realize how much I want an LSD.
Get it
civic spoke
Want to get a proper one. So IDK what to get. Maybe just overkill and quaife it.
Also - 456GT was a real chonker in that group.
260 kg heavier than the second heaviest.
And over 600 kg heavier than the lightest.
Oh, the Viper had the worst power:weight.
stoic ledge
F40 fastest 
indigo coral
I have an LSD 
civic spoke
A Quaife for me is like €1,500
civic spoke
I mean. It would be weird for mine to have it in any other location.
Considering that it's RWD xD
fathom socket
The 16 year old biodegradable plastic
stoic ledge
Not sure I'm such a fan of the 500 on the front
manic isle
does the audi q7 eat tires
civic spoke
Wouldn't surprise me if it ate rear tires like every other heavy car.
It's usually the inside of tires that gets worn first.
autumn mantle
If you check your tire pressure regularly, rotate your tires at correct intervals, and get an alignment youd be fine
civic spoke
Often an alignment issue as well. Especially with air suspension.
@autumn mantle Tire rotation doesn't help if it's just one part of the tire that gets worn out.
manic isle
looking at a 2017 q7 and the only thing my dad is worried about is the tires bc they look thin
autumn mantle
Still helps to rotate them
civic spoke
Welcome to the luxury SUV life. Where sidewalls are starting to become non-existent.
stoic ledge
Tires would be the last concern for a Q7 imho
civic spoke
Many tires just aren't rated to deal with the weight of something like the Q7 on a daily basis.
manic isle
i asked this last night but yall are different people, acura mdx with tech pckg or audi q7 premium plus?
civic spoke
The Q7 is what? 2,200-2,500 kg?
stoic ledge
1.945 kg apparently
autumn mantle
The weight of a Q7 is equivalent to any other full size SUV
stoic ledge
(for the 3.0 TFSI, which I assume the US Spec is)
civic spoke
But the Q7 is more often found on large rims, with low profile tires.
autumn mantle
Like any other modern SUV wheels
civic spoke
Honda will probably be more affordable to maintain. Compared to the Audi.
stoic ledge
Yes
civic spoke
I mean Acura. 
stoic ledge
But the MDX infotainment and stuff is way worse
manic isle
i hear too many bad things about bmw's to even bother looking at them
manic isle
i hear audis are reliable but are expensive to fix but overall is about the same cost to maintain as a normal car
civic spoke
I don't know if I would want to buy a vehicle that just ended its lease deal.
And just right out of warranty.
stoic ledge
Audi isn't more reliable than BMW
civic spoke
I hear that BMW are reliable. But expensive to fix.
stoic ledge
But BMW'S are way better to drive than Audi's
stoic ledge
Doesn't have the 3rd row
stoic ledge
If the 3rd row isn't an issue, X5 all day long
manic isle
does the x5 have a 3rd row
civic spoke
If you need a third tow. Then just get a Honda Odyssey.
manic isle
ok x5 off the list then
stoic ledge
Don't think the X5 does
civic spoke
Row*
civic spoke
Most are.
manic isle
our 2012 pilots 3rd row is tiny af too so im used to it
autumn mantle
Suburban's are one of the few 3rd rows that can comfortably fit an adult.
civic spoke
That might just be what I would look at. NA produced vehicle with a third row.
stoic ledge
If you often use the 3rd row: same
civic spoke
Else just get a minibus.
stoic ledge
Or, when spending 35k: get a new Kia Telluride/Hyundai Pallisade
civic spoke
The sliding doors are also an additional insurance.
Keeps kids from slamming open the doors on parked cars.
stoic ledge
👀
stoic ledge
Imagine how much you'll depreciate on a Q7
civic spoke
And you're looking at a Q7?
manic isle
a 2017 one yes
stoic ledge
I think a Telluride will even depreciate less
civic spoke
Same.
manic isle
basically we want a really nice car thats comfortable and can be used for road trips 1-2 times a year with a third row
stoic ledge
Sounds like this has Kia Telluride written all over it 
Telluride: 10 year, 100k mile warranty
manic isle
ill look into the telluride
stoic ledge
Telluride S has everything you need for 35k USD
Or when you want AWD, it's +2K
It's a great deal imho
civic spoke
AWD is honestly not something everyone needs.
stoic ledge
Yeah I also mentioned the Palisade, basically the same car
civic spoke
TL:DR - Look at the other brands from Asia.
stoic ledge
Although the Hyundai might have a nicer interior?
indigo coral
I'd get a telluride/palisade over a german suv tbh
More reliable, cheap to maintain
But still good quality
or you just can get an RX 350
civic spoke
I would go German if I wanted a smaller SUV.
stoic ledge
Even I, who likes European cars, would look at a Telluride/Pallisade if you want a 3rd row.
civic spoke
X3/5
stoic ledge
They're hard to beat
manic isle
my friend has a palisade and its nice
manic isle
only thing is all the tellurides and palisades are all 40-45k
civic spoke
Can probably walk into a dealer and chop off 10k from that price.
stoic ledge
Thonk
civic spoke
Especially just before the end of the year.
When they want to sell more to increase sales numbers.
stoic ledge
You don't have to have the SX, the S is good enough equiped
manic isle
im still in love with the q7's interior and all the features
stoic ledge
It's fun and all until something breaks. Which it will. And it'll be expensive. And you'd wish you'd bought another car
indigo coral
^
civic spoke
But you'll get a car with a few years on its back. Limited warranty options. And bound to break down sooner.
manic isle
is the xc90 better?
indigo coral
Telluride/Palisade has 10 year warranty
stoic ledge
@indigo coral didn't your aunt trade in a 2017 Q7 for a Rav4?
indigo coral
She either did or is about to
civic spoke
@indigo coral I think that's for the power/drive train.
indigo coral
Yeah but the warranty for everything is at least 5 years, maybe more
Better than the 3 year powertrain warranty on our exploder and stuff
civic spoke
Oof.
I'm happy that my engine is pretty solid.
I should probably flush all other fluids.
indigo coral
The timing chain stretched, a bunch of stuff had to be replaced
Cam phasers and a bunch of stuff
They has the car for almost a month
civic spoke
Yeah. If anything. Then that might be a thing I should look into.
indigo coral
And yes we change the ojl
civic spoke
I know the timing chain should be changed. at some point
civic spoke
I'm thinking oil for the diff and such.
The odd parts. That they count as a lifetime thing.
indigo coral
My RX has a timing belt, has been replaced once so I am good until 180k - 200k
autumn mantle
Timing belts have a pretty short life compared to timing chains
manic isle
are xc90's good/better than a q7?
indigo coral
90k is the recommended interval
stoic ledge
are xc90's good/better than a q7?
I'd say yes
manic isle
i like them so far
civic spoke
Huh. I think one of my speed sensors are going bad.
Those lights came on. And went away.
civic girder
civic spoke
Or it was just me being parked with the ignition on that the car didn't like.
I see that you are getting jacked.
Pump. It. Up.
civic girder
Lmao
broken kelp
Hey all new hear just wanted to post this pic of my 2010 Holden VE SS 6.0L V8 🙂 450RWHP
civic spoke
Wroom. Wroom.
civic girder
manic isle
i think were gonna go with the volvo xc90
civic spoke
I just don't like the XC90 for the engines.
The T8 is a mess of a powertrain.
Uses both a turbo and a supercharger.
Along with an electric motor.
stoic ledge
It appeared to be quite reliable thus far
civic spoke
I guess the good thing is that every Volvo uses the same 2 liter engine.
With different stuff tacked onto it.
indigo coral
yeah the T8 is sketchy
stoic ledge
indigo coral
T8 is supercharged, turbocharged, plug in hybrid, with a complicated anti-lag pressurized system as well
It's a reliability nightmare in a few years
viral matrix
Whoops
civic spoke
I think that I'll order a pair of wheel speed sensors. Idk
Seems like it's starting to become and intermittent problem.
And I'd like having ABS and all of that if I needed it.
fallow plover
we can switch, I only need one for speed signal to instrument panel 😄
static canopy
dense shard
If Volvo designed the system right, it'll be fine.
charred depot
probably no manual model though smh
dense shard
Manuals are dead. No one bought them.
charred depot
ok american
dense shard
Acura is American.
And last I checked Mercedes killed the manual... worldwide.
New 3 series BMW is moving to all automatic with a few exceptions.
charred depot
doesent mean its not a saab moment
dense shard
I did my part to save the manuals.
charred depot
also holy mother of buttons on that thing, even on the wheel
dense shard
Buttons > touch screen
charred depot
still
dense shard
It doesn't really have a radical amount of buttons.
My Corolla has about the same amount now that I'm looking.
Right side is cruise control and related features. Left is media control. And then you have your roller controller thingies.
charred depot
all you need
dense shard
Buy it, and they will make it.
Ultimately consumer preference and regulations are making manuals kind of obsolete.
I don't really mind the Acura has only automatics. Luxury means convenience.
unkempt sedge
That is cursed
dense shard
Cursed car gets cursed builds... tho that is super clean.
hardy osprey
Guys help my eyeballs popped out
charred depot
when the service manual you find for your car at the corner of the internet references another service manual you have not yet found
hardy osprey
oof
rotund wolf
local wagon here in BC 😄
dense shard
That looks good.
Suspension lowering is so sketchy, but damn it look good.
Old school Audis existing is the best argument against a newer Audi
rotund wolf
its only 2inches lower than stock so the geometry doesn't change that much
with updated shifter kit and knob 😛
charred depot
my mazda 2 has mad body roll need some lowering springs
can lift back wheel completely off the ground
manic isle
definetly gonna go with an xc90, its only $650 more than the mdx and is worlds nicer
dense shard
Clean interior, also 2 inches is pretty radical.
Looks fucking good tho. I get the reduced suspension travel and speed bumps, but unf, that look.
I almost wanna do it to my car, but I can't really justify it. lol... maybe if Toyota releases TRD springs.
rotund wolf
actually 2 inch from stock suspension, and only 1inch from the sport suspension
dense shard
fair enough.
I just know the Corolla RSR suspension kits go from slight drop to something like 3 inches.
Which... lol a bit radical tbh.
Yeah here we go.
Some brave owners went static, not bags. lol
https://www.thedrive.com/news/37001/this-graph-shows-how-car-paint-colors-have-gotten-moe-boring-over-the-years Also shout out to the few brave souls who bought green and purple.
manic isle
im literally in love with the xc90 its just beautiful
were gonna test drive one tomorrow
dense shard
do it
indigo coral
the XC90 looks great
dense shard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYjxFIyO0QQ That F50 sounds fucking mean.
fathom socket
Speaking of Ferraris do you know this one ? And that F50 sounds brutal in the video lol
dense shard
Chrome is being stupid.
Google must want me to use edge
Also pretty sure that's a Portofino
dense shard
https://twitter.com/Tweetermeyer/status/1315052366345854976 ah yes. Level 5 capable.
civic spoke
How is it not heated?
Also - Don't buy a car that claimed to be able to do Level 5 self-driving until actual level 5 self driving stuff is out.
Almost every car has level 1. If they count dumb cruise control.
dense shard
There has been debate on Tesla even being level 2.
I know my car is Level 1.
Tho... with radar cruise AND lane keep assist... I could very loosely and with many liberties argue my car is 1.5 or 2.
https://www.nhtsa.gov/technology-innovation/automated-vehicles-safety The definitions are fairly nebulous, but level 5 is... a ways off.
Level 5: An automated driving system (ADS) on the vehicle can do all the driving in all circumstances. The human occupants are just passengers and need never be involved in driving.
civic spoke
Level 5 is literally a hands-off experience.
Where you can sleep in the car without a worry.
dense shard
pretty much
civic spoke
And arrive at your location well rested.
dense shard
You are but a passenger
civic spoke
Yeah
dense shard
I mean... you could sleep in Level 4.
Level 4 An automated driving system (ADS) on the vehicle can itself perform all driving tasks and monitor the driving environment – essentially, do all the driving – in certain circumstances. The human need not pay attention in those circumstances.
civic spoke
"In certain circumstances"
dense shard
I'd say urban/suburban driving is that certain circumstance.
Probably won't be useful on a dirt road... or in a blizzard.
civic spoke
If you're anywhere in a major city. Then you're probably good.
civic spoke
Mhmm.
dense shard
Convenient, but scary.
civic spoke
Cruise control for stop-and-go is really only level 1/2.
Tesla is probably at low level 3.
"the vehicle can itself perform all aspects of the driving task under some circumstances."
dense shard
Tesla is level 2.
Legally, technically, and practically.
And some wouldn't even go that far.
dense shard
Vaguely?
It's a remarkably fragile system. As that tweet alludes to.
The cameras can be knocked out by damn near anything.
I'd think that temperature changes and weather conditions shouldn't be a "circumstances" issue. We've figured out the temp thing.
Tesla is building cars out of plumbing supplies and papier-mâché
civic spoke
Might as well just build dang train lines all across the world.
Those are more automated than Tesla's stuff.
dense shard
Model S screens weren't rated for automotive uses, and apparently their cameras aren't as well.
And yeah. Modern trains are pretty damn safe, eco friendly, fast, and automated/safe.
civic spoke
That's a big yeet.
I remember that a bunch of screens for the Model S broke due to excessive sun exposure.
Aka. Heat.
It's like using a car engine for marine stuff.
Engines on the sea are required to operate under load around the clock.
dense shard
Why are automakers 5-10 years behind Tesla?
Because it takes that long to design, develop, test, and certify the parts.
civic spoke
Yup.
Just look at the Taycan.
Yo. The Taycan Cross Turismo looks sick.
Yes. Yes. Yes.
fathom socket
I wanna to get a Łada 2107
civic spoke
BMW swap it. 👀 https://i.imgur.com/LIHTzjW.png
fathom socket
yes
fathom socket
fathom socket
civic spoke
Smol engine.
fathom socket
I think it would be funnier if it was something more sporty
civic spoke
Basically a lawn mower engine. 
fathom socket
waht is the wolds most unreiable engine?
civic spoke
Whatever Rob Dahm decides to work on.
fathom socket
I don't know him
delicate sinew
Anyone here that lives in Canada, preferably in Ontario - I have a 2015 Chevrolet Cruze 1LT 1.4L and I need to do a full brake job. My issue is sourcing the rear brake drum, shoes, and additional hardware. Does anyone know where I can shop? I've tried Napa and they only seem to have the drums and the drums alone cost like $122..
fathom socket
do still cars use drum brakes?
civic spoke
Aye. They sadly do.
fathom socket
why they would use drum brakes?
they seem to be complicated
and they don't like mud
stoic ledge
Cheaper
civic spoke
How much cheaper can it really be to use drums?
fathom socket
the only reason I can find to use drum breakes insteado of disc brakes is that hey are smaller
stoic ledge
Well save 5 bucks per car time 100.000 cars = big difference in the long run
civic spoke
I guess that their size:perfomance is alright.
At least for normal daily use.
And with the odd emergency stop.
stoic ledge
90% of the breaking is done by the front brakes
fathom socket
but fricking hell there is no way I'm changing the drum brakes
civic spoke
Disc brake swap.
fathom socket
I've noticed that my rear brakes are super weak
civic spoke
I could do with a full refresh of my brakes.
New pads and rotors.
Along with a freshened up parking brake.
fathom socket
We had cruisin the coast Sat. down here. I should have entered my car however its not restored but it is antique.
manic isle
bout to test drive the xc90
civic spoke
I wonder if I should get myself a dash cam.
fathom socket
I must get a dash cam
I almost had a head on crash on the national road
and also 2 days ago someone almost bumped in to my car because I stopped at pedestrian crossing
charred depot
always best to have it before you need it
civic spoke
That wasn't even a pothole.
civic spoke
Yeah. They are drains.
fathom socket
I still kind of find difficult to drive in the rain
charred depot
take a holiday here, get plenty of experience
charred depot
try 11.5 months here
dense shard
Depends what you define as unreliable.
fathom socket
or I just spin the wheels
dense shard
I'd say Lancia has a few engines that were tragic.
charred depot
so your only issue with the rain is not being able to launch?
dense shard
It's all fun and games till you run the power steering pump of the timing chain... and destroy the engine turning the steering wheel at start up.
fathom socket
not being able to launch and braking issues
charred depot
jeez how hard are you braking
dense shard
Chevy Vegas had tragic issues due to aluminum heads on an iron block.
civic girder
bleed your brakes
dense shard
not a bad time to replace the fluid tho.
charred depot
most of my deceleration is done by downshifting
civic girder
and adjust brake shoes if you have drums
fathom socket
I have no idea how to do anything with drum brakes
civic girder
I know all about soft brake pedal thanks to the Chronicles of RX-7 Rear Drum Brakes
dense shard
Adjustment is fairly easy from what I recall... just a pain in the ass.
civic girder
Yea
dense shard
Anything to do with drums is a pain compared to disc brakes.
civic girder
its easy, but annoying
civic girder
Drums are very straight forward, but they are such a massive pain in the dick to actually do
fathom socket
I drive on mud
charred depot
should be able to drive fine in rain then
fathom socket
because rich people can't get a bit of money together to build a road
I usually just speed trough it
I've span out 1 time
I took a turn at 20 kmh and I lost grip
charred depot
difference is that isnt like a private road thats a actual public road you have to use to get to a town
civic spoke
@fathom socket You need plenty of thread and decrease your speeds when driving in heavy rain.
fathom socket
I still have 7 mm of thread on the front and 5mm on rear
fathom socket
why?
civic girder
prevent oversteer
civic spoke
Decreases the risk of oversteer.
civic girder
understeer is safer and easier to deal with, usually
civic spoke
If you have good on the front, bad on the rear. Then you can get snap oversteer in a corner.
charred depot
chonky drainage on my tyres
civic spoke
fathom socket
I'm gonna to get new tires installed when I can afford it
civic spoke
Do you run a square stance? As in, all tires are the same spec?
fathom socket
but can I drive all seazon in winter here they require winder tires?
charred depot
my 2 front tyres are decent my back ones are old not so decent :^|
civic spoke
All seasons should honestly really be called "Three season".
You can check if the tires have a snowflake on the sidewall to see if they are legal to drive on the winter.
charred depot
only reason i replaced the fronts is because they had utterly shit chinese tyres which i could do burnouts all day with
civic spoke
A big TL;DR I have for driving in the rain is to just keep your distance. And to slow down.
Especially for standing water. No idea what's under the water.
Can't see the road? Might as well not be one there.
fathom socket
my tires are dębica navigator 2
I think the worlds cheapest all seazon tires u can get
civic spoke
@fathom socket Looks like they are rated M+S (Mud and Snow).
Those are the kinds of puddles that will have you spin off the road.
fathom socket
I literally just lose grip when the road is wet
civic spoke
What were you driving now again?
And you're driving in the speedy lane.
Quietly and silently judging you.
charred depot
am performin tha overtake
was not expecting snow
i dropped back into lane one shortly after that because no one was driving in lane 2 leaving it completely covered
fathom socket
me be like
dense shard
General consensus is you want to understeer.
For 99% of driver's that's easier and safer to deal with.
fathom socket
my ear drums
dense shard
Also if your tires are so shit you lose grip at a walking pace, you should get new tires.
civic spoke
Yeah.
And if the tires are old, then they will perform much worse as well. Even if you do have the thread depth.
You can see the tires date of production on the sidewall. Should be something like 2015
Firt two for the week, second two for the year.
dense shard
There is that as well. Tho modern tires should be more resistant to age.
manic isle
ok so we drove an xc90, a q7 and an explorer
q7 was confusing to use and change settings
explorer seats werent great and infotainment kinda sucked
xc90 was great overall and seats were amazing
stoic ledge
Volvo seats
dense shard
Because it is.
flint sable
The seats in the fiesta ST are great
fathom socket
the seats in my focus mk1 are not great
it is cheap
but at least it's ergonomic
and better than first gen yaris seats
versed ginkgo
4 wheels bad
sage ledge
No
fathom socket
what kind of replacement head light bulb should i get
indigo coral
lol I put leds in, glare issues be damned
patent oasis
4 wheels gud
fathom socket
I just put some halogen white bulbs from philips
fathom socket
i mean i cant have much of a glare issue if my headlight adjuster is stuck on the lowest possible setting
dense shard
You'd be surprised.
manic isle
bruh my parents want the goddamn explorer shitbox over the volvo
dense shard
Volvos don't have a good long term rep these days.
stoic ledge
Do Ford's?
dense shard
Honestly? Yes.
stoic ledge
Why no Palisade/Telluride tho 
dense shard
European cars still have the perception of being super expensive to fix.
Also like yeah. The Hyundai/Kia twins are supposed to be the benchmarks right now.
stoic ledge
Suggested those yesterday 
dense shard
Same.
stoic ledge
For his 35k budget he can even get a nice brand new one
10 year 100k mile warranty, and tbh they're just very good cars
stoic ledge
stoic ledge
Telluride/Palisade > Outlander all day
stoic ledge
Is the Highlander a 7 seater?
dense shard
Pretty sure it offers 3 rows.
stoic ledge
dense shard
Tho I'd just go for a Sienna at that point.
I would skip a vacation if it meant sitting in a 3rd row of any crossover for more than 15 minutes.
manic isle
see we drove a xc90, explorer and a q7 and the xc90 was the best out of all of them
and the third row in the xc90 was the best
dense shard
y'all should totally check out the Telluride.
You're shopping and comparing between a luxury crossover and a mass market crossover.
manic isle
yeah we only looked at the explorer cuz our friend has one and they like thiers
stoic ledge
Telluride apparently has 31" of legroom in the 3rd row, which appears to be similar to the 2nd row of a Corolla hatch?
dense shard
So not great, but enough.
3 inches more than coach on American Airlines.
4 more than RyanAir.
manic isle
if it has 31" then its the same as the xc90
and all of the xc90 seats were amazingly comfortable
dense shard
Then you should check the Telluride and/or Palisade out.
manic isle
yeah for base model
stoic ledge
2nd trim
manic isle
or we spend 35k on a xc90 t6 inscription that is literally beautiful inside
dense shard
Will it be beautiful 5 years later?
dense shard
It's been on the market for 5 years already.
manic isle
yeah and it literally looks brand new
stoic ledge
Volvo design is 
stoic ledge
XC90 3rd row legroom looks less than the Telluride tbh
manic isle
the seat comfort makes up for it
i've sat in alot of third rows and the seat itself felt like it shouldn't be there it was so comfortable
dense shard
Comfort is meaningless when your legs are cramping up.
stoic ledge
But maybe the Telluride also has a comfortable 3rd row You don't know when you haven't tried
And that ^
dense shard
^
manic isle
like i said tellurides and palisades are too much for us
stoic ledge
But. New. 35k. Which was your budget.
dense shard
I'm sure you can find a used Telluride for under 40k.
manic isle
why would we buy brand new when its gonna lose 10k of its value in a year
dense shard
warranty, dealer incentives?
stoic ledge
Because a used XC90 will do the same, + 10y warranty
dense shard
Why would you buy a Volvo when an Acura is predicted to be cheaper to run?
stoic ledge
Because Acura looks like a 2005 car