cars

[patent bloom]

yeah but I doubt anyone buying it is like "omg my grandparents had one just like it"

ah yeah so then they must have some insight into consumer appeal

[karmic verge]

I would get one of those and throw an i4 in it sideways.

[patent bloom]

lol that could be fun

[karmic verge]

But those tires are right off of a bicycle.

[patent bloom]

you should see the 308 / 328 spare

it's about as biscuit as that, maybe worse

[karmic verge]

Looks like a power wheel tbh

Yknow those tiny electric cars the rich kids had.

[patent bloom]

LOL

[karmic verge]

Necessity and desire are two very different things.

I wanna throw some 295s on there.

Probably weighs more than the car.

https://youtu.be/bx4l1hbb9HU

I just want one of these.

[patent bloom]

this is how they park in Milan

so the smaller the better

[karmic verge]

Why does that look good?

Well... "good"

It looks clean.

[patent bloom]

looks like this in car form

[karmic verge]

Bruh

[fathom socket]

AWD MasterRace 🤣

[patent bloom]

lol that's awesome

hah hah

if that pulled up next to you at a stoplight you definitely wouldn't take it serioulsy

until it's too late

insane

[fathom socket]

every used car sold in poland

https://youtu.be/D5e2_UZuYU4

excuse me

but WHAT THE FRICK

https://youtu.be/S3E1wpx0BoM

they welded the door to the body

[unkempt sedge]

Cars

Another good one at cars and coffee

[fathom socket]

escort

love that license plate

on top of eu mouting

[odd acorn]

change my mind but gt350’s are hotter than girls

[fathom socket]

what are girls?

[odd acorn]

ye like idk

i only know gt350

[patent bloom]

i only know gt350
@odd acorn was that an Nvidia or an AMD release?

😛

[odd acorn]

🥺👉👈

[fathom socket]

[dense shard]

GT350 is apparently ceasing production this year

[flint sable]

@unkempt sedge silver one at Carlisle, this one is coming to Atlantic City this year as well

[unkempt sedge]

Sweet

Looks gud

Nice runs

Rims

Double GT

[patent bloom]

one of the few American cars I'd actually buy

it's so pretty

[fathom socket]

I would not buy any german cars

I know that in europe they are better

then in us

but I still don't like them

[fervent horizon]

Huh
Its actually one of.the only ones i wouldn't buy, im disappointed they dropped the V8 for a V6

If it still had the V8 then i would get it

[fathom socket]

they dropped v8 for a v6

meanwhile in europe we are driving 1 liter 3 bangers

emmision regulations are killing the car industry

[white hound]

Yep rather keep killing the planet instead lol

[fathom socket]

they should make the electric cars more convinient and cheaper instead of making everything expensive and inconvinient

I would just leave petrol cars alone

and make electric cars worth buying for avg people

I would actually buy an electric car if it was cheaper

like renault twizy

but I have no way to charge it

[fervent horizon]

See i like V8, in my house we havea GTO with a 400CI V8, a ford Galaxie with a 390 CI V8 a mustang with a 289 CI, a cars meant to be enjoyed, if you have to cut it balls off to please some dope smoking hipsters, then fuck the environment

[fathom socket]

meanwhile in europe

we ban petrol cars in some cities

[fervent horizon]

I also have A 4.0L I6 and 4.1L I6, and my 1977 mini which has a overbored 1275cc engine which is now 1400cc. There is no replacement for displacement.

[fathom socket]

I only have a 2004 ford focus with 1.8l 16v zetec engine

it broke and won't start at it's own for some reason

[dense shard]

Unless you use forced induction

[fathom socket]

battery is partially ded

but why the battery just die after like 1 day of sitting

[dense shard]

fuck the environment

That's a remarkably short sighted take

[fathom socket]

I think it's mostly so the people who regulate these things can get more money

like I'm not being enough robbed by taxes

[fervent horizon]

Forced induction has some big flaws one of which is flow, forcing more air in doesn't mean more usable power.
Also if everyone else goes ev and hybrids it just means more fuel for me

[white hound]

"forcing more air in doesn't mean more usable power" erm what?

[fervent horizon]

You still need a displacement dor it to reside in, a high displacement with a higher flow webber will be better than a lower displacement engine with forced induction.

[dense shard]

Modern turbos have epic power bands.

Diesel like is a common description.

This isn't the 80s anymore.

[fervent horizon]

Yeah and ive seen and felt them, i still tradded in my XR5 turbo for an XR6 NA

I dislike the lag and the lower torque. Whole reason i will take a straight 6 over a v6 too. Joy is a major part of driving, if i had to take a hybrid or EV i would just take the bus, its going to be boring anyway.

[dense shard]

As I said. Modern turbos don't have that issue.

I wouldn't call the Falcon's engine modern by any stretch.

The lag is minimal, and it's full of torque. And honestly I quite like the noise V6s make.

[silk gate]

Fact is that you can always get better bmep from turbo engines than n/a engines

[patent bloom]

I hate turbos two, especially the whine

but like my 488 has the whine, but there is zero turbo lag

doesn't have the same energy as my 458, but I think turbos aren't as bad as they used to be

[dense shard]

I'm just here to have fun. And I imagine I can do that in any car.

[patent bloom]

lol

s'true

[dense shard]

From shitty diesel pickup trucks to built turbo'd cars that use grenades for boost

[fervent horizon]

I still feel the lag of the newer turbos, i drove a 2019 Velocter turbo and i didnt like I still felt the lag comming out of corners, I then took my own mini from 1977 without a turbo and just NA with a bigger engine and ported head and was accelerating out of the corners much faster and at a lower rpm than the veloster, the turbo required me to sit at a much higher rpm to keep the turbo spooled resulting in me not being able to use the lower end power and torque. Turbos have flaws superchargers have flaws NA is only limited to the engine, you find the perfect the NA engine, forced induction will have nothing on it.
Im done for now its 2 am and i need to finish my report

[unkempt sedge]

Really?

It’s definitely less than say... an early 911 turbo

Turbo hits in the turns XD

[fervent horizon]

911, im not a fan of the shape personally, its just a beetle... that was born perfect, but in my eyes its still a beetle.

[unkempt sedge]

Noice

[fathom socket]

So battery is dead

And the starter broke

[dense shard]

Ouch

[patent bloom]

:/

[fathom socket]

Now it makes clicking noises

But doesn't start

Waiting for new battery

[unkempt sedge]

Love me some LaForza

[wooden ledge]

as a fellow European I can confirm, we banned tobacco advertising because they damage the lungs, but promote diesels over petrol and love putting narrow streets everywhere

I have no doubt by 2025 we'll put streets through schools

[fathom socket]

I remember an american land yacht got stuck on a turn in switzerland

[wooden ledge]

that's nothing, Dalmatian streets get an Mk2 Clio stuck

[fathom socket]

say

what?

[wooden ledge]

https://www.google.hr/maps/@43.7356889,15.8982283,3a,75y,149.17h,70.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7LyvwqYG_ROQSLiNq-kMuQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

that is deemed a necessary street

[fathom socket]

is that

a YUGO

[wooden ledge]

yeah we got loads of them

[fathom socket]

lol they censored the wheel

[wooden ledge]

I was thinking of swapping in two MT-10 engines in one

[fathom socket]

and you can read the license plate

tugo was like a luxury car back then here in poland

compared to the other crap we had

it was the most reiable car

and most modern

[wooden ledge]

one thing i lvoe about that street is that those are all residental houses

and about 90% of cars that pass there are pre 2004 diesels

I mostly love the yugos for that hood scoop

[fathom socket]

here most of the cars are diesels or LPG

I'm not a fan of diesels in normal cars

and small diesels make me Motion sick

[wooden ledge]

i personally dont like them, but am not opposed to them existing

only thing i hate is how the EU handles emissions so poorly

[fathom socket]

the only opposition that I have is not to use them in small cars with small engines

yeah

EU is shitty and doesn't really think about poor people being poorer

they just milk more tax money out of them

[wooden ledge]

i remember driving this 1.5 diesel saxo

i sort of understand why it exists, im just wondering why people bought it

[fathom socket]

I only drove the worst diesels

the 1.7 cdti

and 2.0 tdi

the one that really loves to break

[wooden ledge]

only diesel i like is the 1.9 JTD from the Alfa Romeo 147

[fathom socket]

my brother has a hyundai i 20 with a diesel

[charred depot]

when your DPF gets stolen on modern diesels, fuuu

[wooden ledge]

both the 8 and 16 valve versions are reliable

[charred depot]

my friend had theirs stolen and he got rid of the car

[fathom socket]

the 1.6 CRDi engine makes me super motion sick

it vibrates like hell

[stoic ledge]

as a fellow European I can confirm, we banned tobacco advertising because they damage the lungs, but promote diesels over petrol and love putting narrow streets everywhere
@wooden ledge which country is that

[wooden ledge]

i also love how they sound liek tractors

[charred depot]

thats like every european country is it not

[wooden ledge]

@stoic ledge im from croatia, but most of coast Europe is like that with the streets

France, Spain, Italy, Albania

[stoic ledge]

Not here lol, diesel here is nearly dead

New sales 6% is diesel

[charred depot]

uk with the row of 4 busses full throttle up a narrow street hill

take cover

[fathom socket]

in poland they want to raise import taxes for cars from abroad

[stoic ledge]

That yes

[wooden ledge]

diesel here is popular mostly cause EU taxes the fuck out of petrol so its a bit cheaper per liter

[fathom socket]

a lot of people buy diesels

[sand condor]

that definitely is a car

[wooden ledge]

plus older cars used to have better mileage on diesel engines

[stoic ledge]

Fuel tax is not EU but per country

[fathom socket]

I use lpg

[stoic ledge]

*cries in 🇳🇱

[fathom socket]

so my fuel is like 2/5 th price of the petrol

[sand condor]

*cries in 🇺🇸 *

[charred depot]

never seen a lpg car

[wooden ledge]

but heres the thing, the EU was the one who decided in the 90s that diesel was the future because of lower co2 emissions

[stoic ledge]

I use lpg
Same, I get it in 🇧🇪 because literally half the pries

*cries in 🇺🇸 *
@sand condor don't, your cars are cheap af, and so is the fuel

[fathom socket]

never seen a lpg car
@charred depot it's a polish italian and belgium thing

[wooden ledge]

thats the sole reason you saw all European manufacturers jump on it in the early 2000s

[fathom socket]

mostly

[charred depot]

the UK were pure advocating for diesel cars like yeah come on guys go get them discount discount scrappage scheme!!!

then they were ah no no no bad diesel

[stoic ledge]

Kek muted

[wooden ledge]

as i said, the advocating came mostly due to lower co2 emissions

dont forget that in the 90s everyone was big on the global warming train

[fathom socket]

lpg has lower emmisions

but it wears the engine faster

[stoic ledge]

but it wears he engine faster
Just get a proper engine

[wooden ledge]

plus LPG owners are also weird

[stoic ledge]

Thanks

Ly2

[wooden ledge]

friends dad has a 1.6 octavia with lpg

i dont think that thing has had a sniff of petrol in the past 5 years

[fathom socket]

my valves are worn and IDK how long I can drive like that

[stoic ledge]

[wooden ledge]

engine is done at only 100,000 km

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

oh god

[stoic ledge]

That's just VAG reliability for you

[fathom socket]

they told me smaller engines are no good for lpg

VAG?

[wooden ledge]

yeah i took it apart before the summer

[stoic ledge]

VAG = Volkswagen Auto Group

[fathom socket]

ah

well

the zetec engine is no good for LPG

but it has 300k km

andf also i think it came in LPG version

[stoic ledge]

GM Family 0 is on LPG

[wooden ledge]

honestly i dont think ive seen a bad engine made in the past 20-30 years

at least not a french one

[fathom socket]

eeem

waht?

[stoic ledge]

Lol

Whut

[fathom socket]

VW made a bunch of not good engines

[wooden ledge]

idk i havent seen them

[fathom socket]

my cousin has a VW 2.0 tdi engine that is very expensive to fix

and broke on the middle of the highway

[wooden ledge]

like most of the damage ive seen on cars ive worked were driver behavior

friend owns a 406

was pretty nice when he got it, i havent seen anything to worry

we get it, he pretty much destroyed it on the way home

[fathom socket]

they have some custom variant of VW b6

[dense shard]

VWs in the US are/were notorious for drinking oil

[stoic ledge]

Sounds like he's the problem, 406 engines are generally very reliable

[wooden ledge]

^ thats what i mean

he abused the hell out of it

[fathom socket]

also

[wooden ledge]

and 15000km in, the engine is done

[fathom socket]

are zetec engines reiable?

[dense shard]

Yes

[fathom socket]

in your opinion

[dense shard]

Zetec and older Duratecs are probably the best engines Ford made

[wooden ledge]

also most new cars dont even have a break-in period

cause precision and technology has gotten better

[dense shard]

Errrr

[fathom socket]

somebody joked that the engine outlasts the chassy

[wooden ledge]

the new MX-5 only tells you to not race the engine

[dense shard]

Toyota has a break in period

[wooden ledge]

which model

[dense shard]

Corolla

[wooden ledge]

ik the GT86 did

[stoic ledge]

So does on literally every model

Except the EVs maybe

[wooden ledge]

corolla hybrid or petrol

[dense shard]

Petrol

And I doubt it matters

[wooden ledge]

ill check the manual tomorrow

[autumn mantle]

C8 corvette has an electroniclly limited break in period where you dont have full RPM until 500miles.

[dense shard]

My manual says break-in

[wooden ledge]

my MT-10 SP didnt have a limiter but did have a recommended RPM limits for 2 intervals

[stoic ledge]

My manual says

R 1 3 5
  2 4```

[wooden ledge]

not that its a car but still

[dense shard]

Ayyyy

[wooden ledge]

anyone here got a crack at the new supra?

[dense shard]

I wish

[wooden ledge]

literally been dying to find someone at car meets to give it for a spin but seems like no enthusiast bought it

[dense shard]

I'm avoiding car meets

[autumn mantle]

I've only seen two in person drive by, looks super nice.

[wooden ledge]

only think i dont like about the looks honestly is the weird headlight stripe, i think it couldve gone without it

idk are they trying to do something like the LC500 or not but still

[stoic ledge]

I'd drive the Supra

I also like the 400Z concept

[sand condor]

fucc

[stoic ledge]

with manual

But they aren't going to sell the 400Z in Europe so Nissan is dead to me

[wooden ledge]

tbf once they appear on the used market i think a lot will get a manual swap

[stoic ledge]

fucc
I see you've met LMG Warship

[sand condor]

only thing around here is fords, dodges, and chevys

yeah fuck it

[wooden ledge]

i know one guy from the US that swapped in a T56 on day one

voided the warranty for a good cause

[stoic ledge]

[sand condor]

me like mustang. go vroom vroom

[wooden ledge]

i do like the looks of the current one

was Ford the one who started the whole retro styling?

[sand condor]

possibly

either them or dodge

[stoic ledge]

I know Ford is selling the Mustang in 🇳🇱 for €110k

[sand condor]

its like $50k here

[wooden ledge]

yeah the Mustang GT is about $110K USD in Croatia

[sand condor]

never mind $26k

[wooden ledge]

i like it but not that much

[sand condor]

for the 2020 model

[stoic ledge]

I'd drive it for 26k USD, not €110k

[wooden ledge]

yeah i checked a few years ago the US site and it was somewhere between 20-30k

honestly even for 60K i'd get it

[sand condor]

usually new vehicles in the us start out at around 30k

[autumn mantle]

Yeah the ecoboost and v6 models are cheap

[wooden ledge]

but $110K is just pushing it

[sand condor]

v8s are the way to go

[wooden ledge]

no V6 here

only the ecotec and V8

[stoic ledge]

EcoBoost

Ecotec = GM

[sand condor]

general mommas

yo momma

[wooden ledge]

i do love how they all have some Eco variation and cant come up with something original

[sand condor]

you can get a camaro for cheaper but ford has always been good to my family

[wooden ledge]

I think Chevrolet pulled out of EU

years ago

[stoic ledge]

Yes

They only had Opel left

But sold that to PSA

[sand condor]

no that was the UK

[stoic ledge]

What's the UK?

[sand condor]

britain

UK

[stoic ledge]

Yes

I know that lol

[sand condor]

they left the Eu

[stoic ledge]

Ah

Wow

[sand condor]

brexit and all that

[dense shard]

If eco ain't your thing. Get a Toyota Dynamic Force

[stoic ledge]

Joke -> Woosh -> me

[wooden ledge]

Honestly if i was the head of Ford id call it BigDicc Version

[sand condor]

dream car

[wooden ledge]

whats gonna turn more heads, "Ford has Ecotec lookalike" or "Ford launches BigDicc version"

[stoic ledge]

Your dreamcar is heavily pixilated

[sand condor]

sorry i copied the image

[wooden ledge]

render engine cant handle the horsepower

[sand condor]

lazy and on a school mac

[stoic ledge]

Mac

[wooden ledge]

the aluminator xs is a beast engine

[sand condor]

yeah. our editing rigs are mac

[wooden ledge]

its still cross plane but just screams

[sand condor]

theyre 5k

not dollars but the display

[stoic ledge]

My laptop has 4K but smaller screen so better DPI

[sand condor]

i work with what i got ok

[autumn mantle]

https://youtu.be/y2RxRn2lZaw?t=73 launch control is incredible

[wooden ledge]

anyone remember old luxury TVs

[stoic ledge]

My Corsa 1.2 will beat that

[wooden ledge]

those big ass CRT's with buttons behind doors on each side

[sand condor]

i have a laptop at home that kinda chugs on 720p60 youtube so i win

[wooden ledge]

u had to call like 5 people to carry it

[sand condor]

mustangs are just so sexy to me

they sound good and arent a camaro so its a win win

[wooden ledge]

there's only one correct choice boys

Toyota GT-One

road version i mean

u get the reliability of a toyota and thats enough

[sand condor]

challengers are cool too but ford gets me every time with the blade tail lights

[wooden ledge]

yeah the rear lights are sick much better than previous gen mustang

[flint sable]

Was judging ford nationals @ Carlisle

[sand condor]

lucky bastard

[flint sable]

That was a ford factory car so I couldn’t award it

[wooden ledge]

one thing ill always give props to ford is for not challenging mercedes on front vent and emblem size

[flint sable]

I chose a really clean Saleen focus

[sand condor]

mercedes make funny box car

[wooden ledge]

some say by 2025 Mercedes front badge will be bigger than the wheels

[autumn mantle]

Saleen Focus is something I havent heard in years haha

[wooden ledge]

either that or BMW vents will start blocking the windshield

ugliest car?

[sand condor]

if i went luxury id go for cadillac

[wooden ledge]

Meet the Alfa Romeo 145

[dense shard]

Oof

[wooden ledge]

The GTV

[sand condor]

cursed

[wooden ledge]

that line that goes from the rear window to the front wheels

actually seperates wider from narrower part of car

dont wanna spam but heres the front

Alfa will forever be my favorite brand, cause they always have to fuck it up somehow

[stoic ledge]

Modern Giulia is a very good car

[sand condor]

looks good

[stoic ledge]

[sand condor]

im kind of a sucker for those fiestas and stuff that they turn into beasts

[indigo coral]

who said cadillac is the best luxury car? shill has arrived!

[stoic ledge]

[sand condor]

cadillac is better than mercedes

[wooden ledge]

Giulia does have those weird front doors

the B pillar is right next to ur head so u have to move out of the way to see out the window at all

but none the less its really nice both looks and performance

the quadrifoglio is a beast

i do love M but Quadrifoglio to me is a much better story

[stoic ledge]

the B pillar is right next to ur head so u have to move out of the way to see out the window at all
That's in basically every 4/5 door car for me

[unkempt sedge]

What do y’all think about the new maseratis

[stoic ledge]

What new maserati

[night current]

They look pretty good tbh. Reliability is still at question, lol.

[unkempt sedge]

The MC20

[fathom oracle]

The MC20 looks good, hope it can keep the performance up with the looks

[fathom oracle]

I loved the MC12 and this is a nice modern refresh

[unkempt sedge]

Mhm

MC12 was just an Enzo tbf

[wooden ledge]

ye I've heard reliability is poor on them and that they feel cheap inside, personally can't say anything as I havent worked or driven any but worthy of note

[fathom oracle]

imho it looked better than the Enzo

[wooden ledge]

but like most things from pinninfarina they look good at least

[fathom oracle]

I heard this MC20 should be going away from that route as they did more on their own instead of just taking leftovers from Ferrari

[wooden ledge]

do they even sell well?

[unkempt sedge]

ye I’ve heard reliability is poor on them and that they feel cheap inside, personally can’t say anything as I havent worked or driven any but worthy of note
@wooden ledge it hasn’t even come out yet tho

[wooden ledge]

i mean older models not the MC20

[unkempt sedge]

Or were you saying the 12

[wooden ledge]

Ghibli, Quattroporte

[unkempt sedge]

Ah

[wooden ledge]

Alpine A110 yay or nay

[snow mist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qapqClt0gqY

[sand condor]

nay

looks like a car snake

[snow mist]

???

[sand condor]

the alpine not the mercedes

[snow mist]

oh

i say yay

it looks nice

the alpine

[odd acorn]

ford mustang 5.0 or 2.7 ecoboost with convertible roof

[indigo coral]

I like the mc20 except the front looks kinda

Unfinished

https://electrek.co/2020/10/06/tesla-dissolves-pr-department/amp/

LOL

[sand condor]

i dont care for convertibles

hard top or nothing

[unkempt sedge]

Alpine A110 yay or nay
@wooden ledge yay

[patent bloom]

hard top or nothing
@sand condor curious - why?

[sand condor]

it just doesnt look as good to me and on top of that i constantly fear rain

[wooden ledge]

hardtops for me as well, I like the additional chassis rigidity plus better looks

[patent bloom]

what about targa tops

[wooden ledge]

the MX-5 RF is probably the closest I can get to a convertible

[sand condor]

tf is a targa top?

[patent bloom]

removable hard top

[wooden ledge]

^

[patent bloom]

like on an Aventador Roadster

[sand condor]

oh yeah thats fine

its just soft tops that bother me

[wooden ledge]

Mark 4 Supra, MX-5 RF

though technically I believe targa top is trademarked by Porsche no?

[sand condor]

if Lamborghini is using it then no

[patent bloom]

I don't know if they use the name

[wooden ledge]

looks like a bathtub on wheels

[patent bloom]

but the 308 / 328 were known as having targa tops

[sand condor]

ive also seen a couple cars that have a mechanized roof but its hard top

[patent bloom]

but might have just been colloquial

[sand condor]

those are cool

[patent bloom]

yeah 458 / 488 / portofino have that

[wooden ledge]

i believe the NSX had a Targa version as well

[unkempt sedge]

Fluffy

[patent bloom]

actual hard top but folds in

[unkempt sedge]

Is that yours 🤔

[patent bloom]

hence the number plate, yes

[unkempt sedge]

Hmmm

Noice

[sand condor]

yeah

thats probably what id go with

[wooden ledge]

oh and another reason more important to me than chassis rigidity would be aerodynamic efficiency

[unkempt sedge]

Mans flexing his Ferrari lol

[patent bloom]

I have a collection lol

[sand condor]

i like the concept of no top but for racing its shit

of course you do

[patent bloom]

i like the concept of no top but for racing its shit
@sand condor agree with taht

*that

[sand condor]

im 17 i cant compete wit dis

[wooden ledge]

i mean u can go open cockpit, the issue is the windshield

[unkempt sedge]

Muh car

[wooden ledge]

if u were to remove the windshield it wouldnt be so bad for racing

[patent bloom]

im 17 i cant compete wit dis
@sand condor I'm 37, you have time

[unkempt sedge]

What all do you have

I just have the one RC350 lmao

[wooden ledge]

i got nothin atm

in case i leave the country i dont wanna btoehr with exporting the car

[sand condor]

im probably gonna drive my moms old explorer and then save enough for a mustang and if i just make ridiculous money ill buy a nissan gtr premium

[stoic ledge]

@indigo coral there's somebody here with a Lexus

[wooden ledge]

pretty much only thing i got left to do is go do my military basic training and then leave

[sand condor]

gtrs sound so fuggin nice

[patent bloom]

Lexus only ever made one great car

but man is it great

[wooden ledge]

false, there's two

the LC500 also comes in convertible

[sand condor]

idk much about lexus

[wooden ledge]

which is technically a different car

[stoic ledge]

Did somebody forget the LFA?

[wooden ledge]

LC500 > LFA

[stoic ledge]

Ah there it is

[patent bloom]

^^

[unkempt sedge]

Damn

Is that your LFA lmao

[patent bloom]

yeah

[unkempt sedge]

Fuck

[sand condor]

i just want a mustang. all dis foreign stuff makes my brain hurt

[patent bloom]

closest thing I'm ever going to get to driving an F1 car on the road

[unkempt sedge]

Greatest V10 ever

[wooden ledge]

there is a closer thing

the BAC Mono

[unkempt sedge]

There’s closer than that too if you wanna be pedantic

[patent bloom]

Greatest V10 ever
@unkempt sedge it's so high pitched, it's crazy

[sand condor]

high pitch cars sound bad imo

[patent bloom]

hah - I said closest I'm going to get to driving an F1 on the road, not closest there is 😉

[unkempt sedge]

OX99-11

[harsh quest]

ew

that

[wooden ledge]

what the fuck is that

[harsh quest]

makes me wanna cry

[unkempt sedge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_OX99-11

[wooden ledge]

Fiat F1?

[unkempt sedge]

Ya ah

Yamaha

[harsh quest]

BROTHER THAT LOOKS SO BAD

[patent bloom]

it's a kit car right?

[sand condor]

it lloks like a dang spaceship

[patent bloom]

😛

[unkempt sedge]

No

Lol

[wooden ledge]

shit i see Formula One in the preview

if its anything like Yamaha was in F1 at least they tried

[unkempt sedge]

@patent bloom what other cars do you have o.o

[wooden ledge]

they were close to getting a win with Arrows

[unkempt sedge]

In the collection :p

[wooden ledge]

if they didn't cheapen out on a single washer

[harsh quest]

^^much better than that crap^^

[wooden ledge]

btw Yamaha shut down their car division i believe this summer

[unkempt sedge]

The fiat lmao

[patent bloom]

fiat isn;t mine lol

[unkempt sedge]

I am drooling over the zonda ngl

[patent bloom]

I sold it back to Pagani a few months ago

they offered a LOT for it

[sand condor]

rich boi

[wooden ledge]

one reason i respect Pagani is they didn't cover up the Mercedes logos on the engine

[unkempt sedge]

I saw this at cars and coffee

[patent bloom]

no ABS, no traction control, because the original owner didn't opt for it

monster on the track

[wooden ledge]

lots of other companies always cover up that theyre using someone elses engine

[unkempt sedge]

Not often you see 2 GTs

Much less a huayra

[patent bloom]

didn't always behave on the track

so there's that

[unkempt sedge]

Which of the ferraris do you prefer

[patent bloom]

Which of the ferraris do you prefer
@unkempt sedge I love my 458, but lack of Bluetooth (I know, it's dumb) really kills it as a daily

drove my 355 manual as a daily for a while, coz at least you can put an aftermarket stereo into it

[sand condor]

best car in my collection #blessed 🙏

[unkempt sedge]

Lol the Bluetooth missing

[patent bloom]

I have the 30gb hard drive on my 458

and you literally load MP3s from a USB plug hidden in the glovebox

[unkempt sedge]

Nice

[patent bloom]

but navigating them is painful

[fossil imp]

should have bought a >2014 458

[unkempt sedge]

@turbid onyx I’m aware, it’s just the similarities between them detract from it being an overall Maserati imo

[sand condor]

why are SUVs so oversized now?

[unkempt sedge]

My dream car is an XJ220 but that’s never gonna happen lmao

Fucking $300k or more

[patent bloom]

@unkempt sedge oh yeah, I'd love to drive one, they're beautiful

just so uncommon

[unkempt sedge]

Yeah but not expensive

[patent bloom]

and I suspect it's like a "don't meet your heroes" thing

[unkempt sedge]

The one that actually won Le Mans is up for sale rn

[fossil imp]

@patent bloom why didnt u spec oem Harmann Kardon with it ?

[unkempt sedge]

Ehhh clarkson liked it, interior is not great tho

[patent bloom]

@fossil imp didn't buy it new

[unkempt sedge]

And it’s gotta drive great cuz uh

awesome GT racer

[patent bloom]

only raris I bought new were the 488 and my wife's Portofino because we wanted them to match

[unkempt sedge]

It’s just an enormous car

[patent bloom]

and then she wrapped it so it didn't matter anyway lol

[unkempt sedge]

Literally wider than anything for sale

[fossil imp]

pics of wife

[harsh quest]

lamborgini adventador svj best car period

[wooden ledge]

wait which year did the XJ220 get a class win

[stoic ledge]

pics of wife
@fossil imp LFA pic

[patent bloom]

@fossil imp pics of the wife or the car 😛

[unkempt sedge]

1993

[fossil imp]

pics of wife with wrapped 488

[stoic ledge]

[wooden ledge]

1993?

[patent bloom]

@patent bloom any issues yet with decaying soft touch coatings?
@turbid onyx YES, it's horrible

[unkempt sedge]

https://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/jaguar/xj220/1993/732874

[patent bloom]

I hav a really good detailer that takes care of it

[unkempt sedge]

Here is the exact car that won

[patent bloom]

but it's like a weird sticky surface

[unkempt sedge]

You can buy the literal car lmao

[wooden ledge]

thats strange

[unkempt sedge]

Woah

[patent bloom]

@fossil imp ^^

[unkempt sedge]

@wooden ledge ?

[fossil imp]

??

thats not a 488

[patent bloom]

no she wrapped the Portofino

[fossil imp]

oh did she

sure sure

[unkempt sedge]

Wut

[fossil imp]

i smell something...

[patent bloom]

only raris I bought new were the 488 and my wife's Portofino because we wanted them to match
@patent bloom

[unkempt sedge]

Oof

[patent bloom]

portofino is the wife's

[wooden ledge]

@wary yew ?

wrong tag fuck

[unkempt sedge]

Wrong ping lol

[fossil imp]

u said she had a 488

make your mind up lol

[wooden ledge]

omg how does one use discord

[unkempt sedge]

@fossil imp it says his wife’s portofino wut

[wooden ledge]

nvm figured it out now rip

[patent bloom]

u said she had a 488
@fossil imp nope check up, I said "my wife's portofino"

[unkempt sedge]

Doge

[wooden ledge]

@unkempt sedge ?

[unkempt sedge]

@wooden ledge I thought you had said something to me but you hadn’t

[wooden ledge]

i said thats strange

[fossil imp]

sorry your 488

[stoic ledge]

Steeringwheel at zhe wrong side

[patent bloom]

@turbid onyx I've had the screen go dim on my 430

and the 360 actually

[flint sable]

When the infotainment on your 200$ 227,000 mile BMW is starting to go bad 😭

[patent bloom]

Steeringwheel at zhe wrong side :1_BlobAngery:
@stoic ledge sir!

[unkempt sedge]

Hmmm

Right side smh

[patent bloom]

sorry your 488
@fossil imp didn't wrap the 488, I chose the colour lol

[wooden ledge]

only dream car i have is the MP4-20

i still get flashbacks of Kimi's tyre blowing up at Nurburgring that year

[patent bloom]

yeah it's definitely not an in-use problem

my 360 has minimal km's on it and it's parked inside

[wooden ledge]

so what yall think is gonna be the status of ICE cars in 30 years

[patent bloom]

hah ahaha that antitheft thing is so dumb

[wooden ledge]

i cant decide whether the bans on sale of new cars will get overturned with time or they'll just move on to the kit car market

[fossil imp]

@patent bloom jesus how many fezzas u got?

[unkempt sedge]

All

[fossil imp]

i doubt that

[unkempt sedge]

That was a joke x)

[fossil imp]

i know

[unkempt sedge]

Seems like 4?

[fossil imp]

u a brit then, rhd?

[wooden ledge]

F40 or we riot

[patent bloom]

^^

[unkempt sedge]

Yooooo

[stoic ledge]

Inb4 it's a LHD country but he just buys RHD because they're cheaper

[patent bloom]

@fossil imp South African

[fossil imp]

aaaah

[patent bloom]

well, Italian, but grew up in South Africa

and still live here

[unkempt sedge]

You gonna get the Purosangue?

[patent bloom]

@unkempt sedge we're probably moving, so not buying anything till after the move

[unkempt sedge]

2 laferraris is a bit much lol

[patent bloom]

as in moving out the country

likely to a country that drives on the wrong side of the road

so RIP car collection

[wooden ledge]

honestly if i wasn't anti-ferrari i'd love to get an F40

[unkempt sedge]

Oh noooo

Always room for more once you get there :p

[wooden ledge]

though they're like 1-2 million now arent they

[patent bloom]

@wanton raft indeed, although surprisingly unfriendly lol

[fossil imp]

your dad has a nice collection there

[unkempt sedge]

Bruh

Imagine being this cringe @fossil imp

[fossil imp]

lol

[unkempt sedge]

And rude

[patent bloom]

@turbid onyx I meant the people in the Pagani owner's club lol

[fossil imp]

u still have the pagani ?

[patent bloom]

@fossil imp nope, sold it to Pagani a few months back

[fossil imp]

why would u have a pagani and "downgrade" to multiple ferraris thou

[patent bloom]

I gather they either want it for their museum or to make something else

@fossil imp a 2001 Pagani with no ABS and no traction control is not a daily

[wooden ledge]

u can still get a brand new LFA though

[fossil imp]

i know but

mmm

[unkempt sedge]

Sad

@patent bloom any ideas on what you wanna get after you move?

[wooden ledge]

R8 shifter in LC500 or we riot

manual gated one i mean

[patent bloom]

@unkempt sedge yeah, plan is to get a 458 Speciale Aperta and an LFA and then see how I go

[wooden ledge]

wait another LFA?

[patent bloom]

@wooden ledge this one drives on the wrong side of the road if we end up in Europe or in the US

[indigo coral]

I love the LFA

And the LC

Theyre both amazing

[patent bloom]

so not so much another one as a replacement one

[indigo coral]

#imalexusshill

[wooden ledge]

ure in luck since theres still a ton of brand new LFAs that are unsold

[stoic ledge]

But are they better than a 1999 RX300?

[indigo coral]

no way

Nothing is better than a 99 RX 300

[stoic ledge]

Exactly

[wooden ledge]

false

RX-8 that had an owner who drove ehr like a 4-stroke piston car

[fossil imp]

rx 300 > pagani huayra

[wooden ledge]

nothing like rebuilding the whole engine :kreygasm:

yugo coral 45

didn't even need a key for it

i've opened and started em with my nails

[stoic ledge]

[wooden ledge]

https://www.njuskalo.hr/oldtimer-auti/iso-rivolta-gt-coupe-340-ekstremno-rijedak-rdav-oglas-30338808

over $40k for a chassis not worth restoring

[unkempt sedge]

@unkempt sedge yeah, plan is to get a 458 Speciale Aperta and an LFA and then see how I go
@patent bloom gonna track the 458 I assume

[wooden ledge]

legit cheaper to remake it 1:1

[harsh quest]

wait does jake have an m3?

[patent bloom]

@unkempt sedge yeah I don't track as often as I'd like, but no point in owning these cars unless you use them

[unkempt sedge]

#imalexusshill
@indigo coral do you like my Lexus :p

[indigo coral]

Very much so

[unkempt sedge]

Ah cool, and I’m sure there’s a lot more tracks wherever you’re moving

[indigo coral]

I'm hoping to buy a GS F in a couple years

[wooden ledge]

GR-86 hype?

they've moved to a RWD platform so looks promising

[unkempt sedge]

New 86 and BRZ should be hawt

[patent bloom]

I enjoy street use more than track use tbh
@turbid onyx as long as it's not a garage queen then it's all good

[indigo coral]

how did you like the LFA @patent bloom

[patent bloom]

@indigo coral one of my top 5 cars of all time, I love it

it's not very comfortable, and it's VERY twitchy at low speeds so it makes traffic painful

and the seatbelt has an airbag built in so it's totally stupid to put on

but beyond that it's just amazing

[night cypress]

so is this chat for a game or for irl cars

[stoic ledge]

Cars irl

[civic girder]

so is this chat for a game or for irl cars
@night cypress both afaik

[patent bloom]

by looking at which pair of exhaust tips is sooty
@turbid onyx LOL

that's hilarious

[wooden ledge]

im personally not big on street use, i love open road and track but when ever i get near other cars i realize this could be it

[unkempt sedge]

Lmao old Tahoe and then new C8

[wooden ledge]

the car in front is usually on winter tyres that have gone bald from all the summer use over years

[unkempt sedge]

Aqua car

[civic girder]

as useless as the car its printed on

[stoic ledge]

[unkempt sedge]

Damn

Ascari 10th anniversary is amazing

[unkempt sedge]

Wow it’s dom

[stray nacelle]

supra beter

[unkempt sedge]

From fast and furious

[civic girder]

best car

[stray nacelle]

this the best car

[stoic ledge]

ftw

[patent bloom]

how does anyone drive something that has that much power but a total inability to corner

lol

[indigo coral]

driving a modern challenger requires a boating license

[patent bloom]

I was a judge on last year's Robb Report COTY, drove this thing and it was horrible

[stoic ledge]

Uuuhm I don't think so

When

[patent bloom]

it was losing traction in 5th gear smh

[stoic ledge]

OOF that color

Missed it this morning

I quite like the look of that 500

Wouldn't drive it myself, but I like how it looks

Trading in the MiTo

Get it in the same red as the 8c

[unkempt sedge]

Rip the 500 in the US

[stoic ledge]

Alfa based on the 500e when

[unkempt sedge]

Lol

[stoic ledge]

Rip the 500 in the US
Mexican made 500

Another CMP PSA car

[unkempt sedge]

Tonale is interesting

[wooden ledge]

a lot of muscle cars had leaf spring suspension but they do look amazing

[unkempt sedge]

are you talking about the tonale concept or the production one?
@turbid onyx production

[stoic ledge]

I don't like SUVs/cross-overs

[wooden ledge]

when ever I see a cross-over I just wonder why didn't he take a test for C-category and get a bus

[stoic ledge]

[dense shard]

Because crossovers have their place

Along with Fiats and Alfas

But I digress

[stoic ledge]

Oh nein you didn't

[dense shard]

It's either a dead joke.

Or willfully ignoring the biggest segment in the automotive sector right now.

Station wagons are dead in the US unless you want to spend stupid amounts of cash on an Audi or Mercedes.

And if I had to choose my next car I'd probably end up in a RAV4 tbh. The taller ride height IS nice.

[stoic ledge]

Volvo also has wagons

[dense shard]

ah yes. Volvo. Just as unreliable, expensive, and questionable value.

[stoic ledge]

More reliable and less expensive tho

[dense shard]

Sportwagen is dead. And the Corolla wagon never made it here.

It's still a 50k station wagon.

That you have to special order in the US.

[charred depot]

imagine not having estates

[stoic ledge]

Everything is special order here so that doesn't surprise me

[dense shard]

I'm honestly getting tired of the crossover bashing

[stoic ledge]

I'm not bashing, I just don't like them

[charred depot]

i have bad experience with people who drive them so i dont like them

[dense shard]

It's not an issue of gratification.

You don't have an issue with the car, but the driver.

[charred depot]

and for that reason i wont buy one

[dense shard]

Crossovers are common... Meaning you'll have shitty drivers.

Then again sorority girls only drive Fiats.

[stoic ledge]

I have an issue with the car
Same

[charred depot]

not really here they are recently taking off

[dense shard]

And only rich jerks buy Alfas in the US.

The market disagrees with you.

And I enjoy a higher ride height, and cushy ride.

[stoic ledge]

Higher center of gravity, worse fuel economy, more expensive, less specious than a wagon...

[charred depot]

oh haha i buy crossover but that grass i can put my wheel anywhere near it
-crossover driver on single track road

[dense shard]

Higher center of gravity is not relevant. No one goes to the track.

Fuel economy is close enough tbh.

[stoic ledge]

I do go around corners fairly often tho

[charred depot]

any difference stacks

[dense shard]

Golf wagon in the US got 32 on the highway.

Nissan Rogue matches that.

[stoic ledge]

> Golf

[charred depot]

even if its a 1mpg difference and everyone buys it that stacks up

[dense shard]

It's one of the last sold in the US.

1 mpg difference is rounding error.

You can get more by changing your driving habits.

[charred depot]

its really not in the grand scheme of thing

for how they are used there no reason for them to be that high

[stoic ledge]

Imagine not cruising at 90mph

[dense shard]

If you're going 90, you aren't getting economy in anything.

[stoic ledge]

Converted I still get 42MPG so

[charred depot]

i get crossovers and suvs and what not if you actually go offroad but in a city why in the f

[stoic ledge]

Go offroad with a 130hp FWD car

[dense shard]

It's a feeling of security on the off chance you'll need it

[wooden ledge]

i wouldnt go off roading in a cross over tbh

[charred depot]

security in what way?

[dense shard]

Big means safe.

It's a boomer logic.

[stoic ledge]

Higher heavier car is often safer in a head on crash to a smoller car

[dense shard]

Cushy ride is an added bonus.

[wooden ledge]

from cross over owners ive spoken to the higher seating position and bigger car makes them feel safer even though it's the exact opposite

[stoic ledge]

Except when everybody has a high heavy car

[dense shard]

Also 3rd row seats are a nice bonus for a lot of crossovers.

It's not really the exact opposite tbh.

[stoic ledge]

MPV > cross over

[charred depot]

when this is the parking in your city

[dense shard]

Smaller cars fair more poorly in collisions.

[charred depot]

and people start adopting crossovers it can get annoying

[stoic ledge]

Corsa has 5 stars

[dense shard]

That's not really an issue in the US.

We live mostly in the suburbs.

[charred depot]

yeah im talking from my point of view

[dense shard]

Okay?

[wooden ledge]

honestly even at nicer parkings ive seen people fuck it up

[dense shard]

We are all talking from our points of view.

[wooden ledge]

a saxo using 2 spots

[dense shard]

And Europe is also moving towards crossovers.

So is Japan.

[wooden ledge]

golf owners especially for some reason like 2 or 3 spots

[stoic ledge]

Saxo

[dense shard]

India also likes their taller cars.

Wow... crossovers aren't just a US thing.

[wooden ledge]

Saxo ftw

it was one of the unsafest cars ever sold

[dense shard]

But by virtue of size and profit, the US is a major market

[wooden ledge]

and god bless it, every time i drove the wheels off it i knew it was 60% chance it was my last day

[stoic ledge]

Cross-overs aren't really wider than a regular hatchback

[dense shard]

Drive a Corolla

[stoic ledge]

Although they often think its wide AF and drive wide AF

[dense shard]

It's smaller than a RAV4

[charred depot]

i drive a mazda 2 so i can squeeze by just about anything

mines is previous gen (2010)

[wooden ledge]

another thing i love is going around parking lots finding french cars that dont have screwdrivers in all 4 windows

manual windows dont count

[charred depot]

yeah thats my gen

[stoic ledge]

2010 = 2008

[charred depot]

at the cost of it being pretty uncomfortable yeah

[dense shard]

Yes understeer happens in fwd cars

[charred depot]

you have k understeer and holy shit understeer

[dense shard]

[wooden ledge]

suspension geometry and tyre setup makes more difference than drive

[stoic ledge]

it would only go straight, no matter what you did with the steering
@turbid onyx luckily it's only on a Fiat platform

[wooden ledge]

BMW for instance designs all their cars for understeer since the early 80s

[charred depot]

understeer is generally from a heavier frontend

[stoic ledge]

Never had any understeer, and I've y33ted it in corners quite hard

The Punto on the same platform steered even less direct

[wooden ledge]

understeer is for people who dont know how to use handbrakes

[dense shard]

Driven wheels do have quite a lot to do with understeer

[stoic ledge]

the mazda 2 was impressively agile, the corsa was definitely the worst
Never driven the (Grande) Punto (Evo) apparently

[wooden ledge]

u gotta yeet the corner or the corner yeets you

[dense shard]

Sure suspension and what have you but can't dismiss drive wheels

I'm not talking about power

When you are asking the wheels to do braking, steering, and speed, you are putting yourself at a disadvantage.

I'm aware suspension tuning has a lot to do with it, but FWD isn't doing any suspension tune any favors.

[wooden ledge]

drive does have effect but im sorry to ruin ur day, if u could change 1 thing to fix handling, drive wouldnt be the thing in any scenario

[dense shard]

That is why "car guys" get so hot about RWD.

You are still delivering power.

A slalom is going to scrub speed.

If you are maintaining speed through turns, you're still applying power to the wheels.

You aren't making it clear

Low mu being?

[charred depot]

if you arent holding the acceleration pretty hard on a 55mph bend in the mazda 2 youll be doing 38 when you exit

[wooden ledge]

skyactiv-x engine kreygasm

[dense shard]

So a low friction surface

... that's different

Sounds like tire compound would make the most difference

[wooden ledge]

blizzak lm005 on everything

[dense shard]

On an icy analog surface

And tire compounds still matter

[charred depot]

the mazda was probably only better because its light heh

[stoic ledge]

We always have ice in may

[charred depot]

also the mazda 2 has pretty wide tyres for its weight

up to 215 depending on trim level i think

[dense shard]

Damn

[stoic ledge]

Same for zhe Corsa

[charred depot]

yeah but corsa hevy

[dense shard]

My car has 225s

[charred depot]

yeah but does your car have 80hp and weight 930kg

[dense shard]

170 horses

[wooden ledge]

the mazda3 im getting my mother is also 215s but its like double the mazda2

[dense shard]

And it weighs... Whatever 3000 pounds is

[stoic ledge]

yeah but corsa hevy
It's not that heavy, but yeas heavier than a Mazda 2

[dense shard]

1360 kg ish

[stoic ledge]

Oof heavy for a C-segment car

[dense shard]

On par for the era

[stoic ledge]

I think almost every Golf/Focus/Astra is atleast 100kg lighter, Peugeot 308 even 200kg

[wooden ledge]

clio mk2 four doors is 900kg pre face lift

[dense shard]

Golf is a bit less in the US

Mazda 3 is heavier

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

mazda 3 is pretty big though considering

[dense shard]

Not really

[charred depot]

bigger than a golf

[dense shard]

It's small inside

[charred depot]

dont know current just know the smiley one

[wooden ledge]

the hatcback is pretty good up front, rear is a big tight

[dense shard]

It feels big to drive, but it's kinda cramped inside

And it's rubbish to drive

[wooden ledge]

im only triggered by the moron who put the screen right for it to get some sunlight all day

[stoic ledge]

Basically every car now is as big as the segment above it 20 years ago

Polo is as big as a Golf 3

[dense shard]

Massive blind spots

[charred depot]

they should of done a previous gen mazda speed 2 when they had that ford money

[stoic ledge]

Corsa as an Astra G

Etc etc

[wooden ledge]

GM Opel electronics were the best

[charred depot]

new mazda 3 sedan looks to be bigger than a old mazda 6 heh

[wooden ledge]

i also love how u needed so many factory tools

and the top left cluster light always dies

[charred depot]

the lovely people at mazda glued in my radio connector, other than that k

[wooden ledge]

where my Astra C homies at

[charred depot]

astra c more like blown head gasket :^)

[stoic ledge]

Astra C

[wooden ledge]

G*

[charred depot]

i dunno i see so many astra c's for sale with "blown head gaskets"

even new astras its wack

[stoic ledge]

Astra C

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these

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H

We went over this a few days ago lol

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tf is a astra C

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i meant G chill yall

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tf is a astra C
@charred depot no

i meant G chill yall
Yeah I get 'ya

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i did like how the G looked tbh

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you can give the rear of the mazda 2 camber using a couple washers, should i go full scum

we had a astra F i think

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opel roadster or how ever the hell they called it was pretty good

its gonna be speedster isnt it

fuckin knew it

[pearl tiger]

anyone here heard about Osram Night Breaker Laser? i wanna replace my H1 with it

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i use phillips racing vision

i posted the difference between cheap bulbs and them a while back

[pearl tiger]

well i got cheap cheap ones 😄

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Philips > Osram in quality imho

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honestly just get like a 400W LED reflector for people who dont wanna turn off highbeams

mount it on a dash and put a simple 2-way switch

goes "20kmh though a well lit area" HIGH BEAMS

[pearl tiger]

if it aint dark enough, ill drive with sidelight

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smart fortwo gen 1 is also amazing

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No

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1.5-2.5 seconds to change gears

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Cars

[pearl tiger]

ahh nuu phillips racing vision is a no go for me.. i cant find my socket

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and one of the unsafest cars out there

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old bulb

new bulb

[pearl tiger]

yeah ive seen reviews.. but sadly i need H1 lights

and 4 of them

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why 4?

[pearl tiger]

lowbeam and highbeam seperate

[charred depot]

same bulb size ?

[pearl tiger]

yeah 4x H1's

[charred depot]

ah mazda 2 uses a H7 for low beam and HB3 for high beam

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Thonk that's a weird setup

[pearl tiger]

angel eyes

😄

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Ah

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ah take it it was originally a 1 bulb system

[pearl tiger]

yeah my old stock ones were H4 single bulb system

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I have H7 low H1 high

And H3 fog iirc

[pearl tiger]

well im driving a shit box 😄

dont have foglights

^^

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havent had to change my foglights yet

people who leave the rear fog light on 💢

[pearl tiger]

my rear foglight is dark cuz tinted lights 😄