cars

[dense shard]

The Germans left logic behind many years ago.

[humble cargo]

Nah I was right

[fathom socket]

The Japanese do it the best

[humble cargo]

S63 in mine

[fathom socket]

No the M63

isnt a thing

[dense shard]

Japanese don't do weird alpha numerics most of the time.

[humble cargo]

Well n63 but with s63 turbos

Bruh look it up

[fathom socket]

You said M63

[humble cargo]

2016 650 is the n63

I said s63

Wich is the m6 Engine

[fathom socket]

M63 iirc
@humble cargo

[humble cargo]

Yeah I said iirc

[fathom socket]

I mean the N/A V8 you'll be installing

to your mates lada

[humble cargo]

Ah okay lol, I don’t know wich exact one he’s trying to get but I’m pretty sure it’s out of an old 5 series

[fathom socket]

Then probably a 540 engine

or a 530i

[civic girder]

It is the poor mans porsche
But the thing is, at the time, you could get better cars for under half the price of a 944 lmao

[humble cargo]

Idk about old 5 series engines lol

M60 is the v8 in it i think

[fathom socket]

Also just looked uup

they made 2 530i's in the same generation

One is an inline 6

the other one is a v8

[humble cargo]

It’s an e34

[fathom socket]

Yea

within the e34 generation

[humble cargo]

Don’t know wich exact one tough lol

Yeah might be an 530i then

[fathom socket]

Its either a 530i or a 540i

Speaking about E34

Didnt they build a Mclaren F1 powered 5 series touring

[humble cargo]

Well the f1 engine is from bmw so yeah

Do you know the 7 series „Goldfisch“?

[fathom socket]

No but just looked it up

V16 powered 7 series?

Is that like a enlarged M70

with more pistons

[humble cargo]

Indeed

[civic girder]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hWptDC28zSmERya7Zb

Don't tell me the 400z doesn't look identical

[fathom socket]

The roofline is identical with all modern Z cars

and the older ones

Like the S30

[civic girder]

Older ones not so much imo

Similar style, sure

[fathom socket]

It's pretty much similar

Well pretty thats what they were going for

And who cares I like it

Probably because Im a huge sucker for Z cars

[dense shard]

Implications are that this is just a rerefreshed 350z.

[civic girder]

Yea

[dense shard]

Which... Okay, fine?

[civic girder]

I'm assuming it's the same chassis with a new body, refreshed interior, and a new engine

[dense shard]

The 370z is still a pretty good car.

Interior looks better.

[civic girder]

It's good, but outdated and overpriced

[dense shard]

Is it outdated?

Ignoring the infotainment.

[civic girder]

When did the 370 launch

[fathom socket]

So its no longer outdated?

[dense shard]

A decade ago

[fathom socket]

What makes it outdated

[civic girder]

It's a decade old lol

[dense shard]

Lack of tech features

[fathom socket]

And yes?

The beetle was sold for 70 years

[civic girder]

It's like Intel and 14nm

[fathom socket]

with no changes

at all

[dense shard]

The beetle wasn't good by the 60s

And it changed plenty

[fathom socket]

and then it never changed in a drastic way

[civic girder]

The beetle had multiple generations. The last year of the beetle was nothing like the original

[fathom socket]

and stayed that way till the early 2000s

then it got deleted

then the new beetle and such

[dense shard]

Anyway. 370z has remained relevant against competition.

BRZ twins, Miata, base Mustang...

[civic girder]

It's relevant, in the same way as the charger and challenger. You're marketing and selling a decades old car

When you compare it against anything new, it becomes unappealing

[dense shard]

But it lacks the tech to make it really attractive

Interior is 90s in the 20s

[fathom socket]

If you had the money for a 400z why tf wouldn't you just get a 370z used or something

[civic girder]

Sure it's competitive in actual performance, but why would you buy it if it lacks modern features and comforts; especially at the price you pay

[fathom socket]

I like how people say "Man it was simpler in the 90s" and then mock the 370z for not having tech

[civic girder]

???

[dense shard]

Simplicity is fine, but tech is affordable now.

[fathom socket]

Its a simple car

as long as its a good car that you like

[civic girder]

That's what they all say

[fathom socket]

who cares if its old

[dense shard]

Buyers care

[civic girder]

Yea, if you're a fan boy and/or have owners bias, it doesn't matter how outdated the platform is

[dense shard]

Why buy a new 370 when you can buy a used one

[civic girder]

^

[fathom socket]

yes

that

[civic girder]

You get the same car, literally

[dense shard]

Nissan is competing against the used market.

[fathom socket]

Yea I don't know why people buy new cars in general

[dense shard]

Because tech

And used market is shit right now

[fathom socket]

they have been the same in tech department for the last 5 years

[civic girder]

Yea, the 400z is the only way Nissan can compete against their decade old used market competition

[dense shard]

Not really

[civic girder]

How so?

[dense shard]

2019 saw a lot of development

[fathom socket]

Only EVs

[dense shard]

Not you, Eastman. lol

Not only EVs

[fathom socket]

what else then

[civic girder]

Continuing to sell the 370z makes no sense to me

Like, they would at least have to pretty it up and update the tech in order to sell it

[fathom socket]

thats what the 400z

is

[civic girder]

Yep

[fathom socket]

isnt it

[dense shard]

2019? A lot of cars added safety suite features, android auto more or less became mainstream.

You saw the brand new Mazda 3 and Toyota Corolla HB.

[fathom socket]

I actually like those 2 a lot

[dense shard]

In the case of the Corolla, it was 100% new.

I didn't want last gen tech.

[fathom socket]

But still does it do something old gen cant

[dense shard]

Because year by year updates on infotainment matter.

It does.

[civic girder]

It looks suspiciously similar to the 370/350 (which already looked suspiciously similar to each other), and would not surprise me if it's structurally the same car

[dense shard]

Mazda's infotainment was actually smooth to use.

Toyota's was functional. Nevermind the better fuel economy and way more power.

[fathom socket]

well at least most german makers stayed the same

[dense shard]

I could have gotten a few month old Corolla HB for 19k... but at that price I could have paid a bit more and gotten exactly what I wanted.

[fathom socket]

just getting a software tach

and fancier luxury stuff

[civic girder]

Digital tachs are always garbage in my experience

[fathom socket]

They are

I hate Merc's digital tach

Also hasn't the G class been the same as the Z car

in terms how similiar it looks to last gen

and you know

[civic girder]

There's a lot of outdated cars out there

[fathom socket]

not being too different

[civic girder]

The charger and challenger are the same way

[fathom socket]

No the G class is pretty new underneath

iirc

just exactly the same design

[civic girder]

The Nissan titan is also literally the same

[humble cargo]

400z just means i can buy cheap 350 and 370z now

[fathom socket]

350 has been dirt cheap in some countries for a while

Especially UK

but the insurance bites you in the butt

[humble cargo]

8k here

[civic girder]

BMWs have looked so similar to each other for so long, I have trouble telling them aoart

[dense shard]

Also remember

[humble cargo]

With 30k miles

[fathom socket]

Well I can never find an affordable 350 here

[civic girder]

UK insurance is a meme

[dense shard]

Automakers look at new car sales to decide what to build

There's a reason manuals are dyingm

[humble cargo]

Sad tbh

[fathom socket]

for a 15 year old 350z

[dense shard]

Car guys refuse to buy new.

[fathom socket]

50k

in us currency

with around 130k kilometers

[humble cargo]

Save the manual!

[dense shard]

Car people are to blame for the death of manuals

[humble cargo]

What

[civic girder]

Car guys refuse to buy new.
@dense shard I don't think it's that they refuse, but rather that they dont see the point

[dense shard]

Then they have no right to whine

[fathom socket]

or cant afford

in general

[humble cargo]

We want to make slow cars fast, not fast cars death traps

[dense shard]

You can get manuals on the cheap

[civic girder]

They feel that no new sports cars appeal to them the same way older ones do

[fathom socket]

I want to make slow cars

death traps

the 205 T16

for example

Or the Delta S4

[humble cargo]

My mk2 golf is defo not a death trap when finished

[civic girder]

Personally, I wish more people bought new cars so there's more 80s cars for me

[humble cargo]

Only got like 500hp with fwd

[fathom socket]

lmao

[dense shard]

Automakers only sell what people buy. If people don't buy manuals, automakers will stop selling them.

[fathom socket]

I want 80s cars too

[civic girder]

only 500whp

[fathom socket]

Actually automakers build when there is enough demand

So if all automakers kill manuals there will be demand

[civic girder]

Automakers only sell what people buy. If people don't buy manuals, automakers will stop selling them.
@dense shard even if people keep buying them, it's an outdated tech

[dense shard]

Dunno if outdated.

[fathom socket]

at least for a small market

[dense shard]

My manual auto rev matches on up and downshifts.

[civic girder]

Antiquated for sure

[fathom socket]

I mean if the manual transmission is antiquated

[dense shard]

Manuals are only a few years older than automatics.

[fathom socket]

so is the internal combustion engine

[civic girder]

Auto rev match is a band aid to fix people's own idiocy lol

[dense shard]

It's a nice feature to have in heavy traffic.

[humble cargo]

@dense shard what

[fathom socket]

I'm not very good with rev matching ok

[humble cargo]

The auto gearbox isn’t that old

[fathom socket]

it is really old

[humble cargo]

30s iirc

[fathom socket]

That still old

[dense shard]

"Modern automatic transmissions can trace their origins to an early "horseless carriage" gearbox that was developed in 1904 by the Sturtevant brothers of Boston, Massachusetts. "

[fathom socket]

Also

1904

yes

[dense shard]

"One of the key developments in arriving at an automatic transmission was the use of planetary transmission in the vehicle's gearbox. Probably the first use of which was in the Wilson-Pilcher made between 1900 and 1907."

If we're going for things that we considering modern... this.

[fathom socket]

What you're looking for is the Torque converter automatic @humble cargo

which was developed in the 40s

[civic girder]

Automatics are just as old as manuals, yes. But the problem is that automatics can be continuously advanced and improved. But there's only so much you can do to a manual to make it better. Auto rev match isn't really a transmission feature afaik lmao

[humble cargo]

Oh my bad then

[dense shard]

Then check out what Hyundai did.

automatic clutch.

[civic girder]

That's...old tech lol

[humble cargo]

Not pog at all

[fathom socket]

@civic girder Depends on what you consider Automatic

[civic girder]

I'm pretty sure someone made an automatic clutch waaaaàaaay long ago

[fathom socket]

Considering there are so many types of Automatic gearboxes that can be controlled manually

Sequential

for example

[dense shard]

Saab did it sort of

[fathom socket]

Yeah they did

[dense shard]

It was... Actually kind of alright

[fathom socket]

And wasnt it kinda bad?

I mean for crawling the car

[dense shard]

Don't crawl any manual

[civic girder]

By manual I mean 3 pedals and a clutch. You can actually have manual sequential

[fathom socket]

Pretty sure you couldnt start moving without gas

When you are in a tight spot

its hard to move with gas

[civic girder]

You'd be surprised

[fathom socket]

You'd be suprised at how much I suck at it

Though that's mostly because I drive a renault

and old Renault clutches are fucking weird

[civic girder]

I have to use gas in the RX-7 cause rotaries have 0 tork

[fathom socket]

lol

I drive a diesel so

instant torque

[civic girder]

Slow traffic is horrible

[humble cargo]

tesla joins chat

[fathom socket]

With old Renaults

the clutch has a ridiculous throw

Its fucking long

and it doesnt grab properly until near end

[meager hinge]

2Jz ❤️

[brazen canopy]

1st of in the supra rant

[spice compass]

supras are the best cars. you opinion is basically shit

[brazen canopy]

The fucker is on some dodge weight levels

[meager hinge]

Lmao

Easily fixable

[brazen canopy]

bitch weighs the same as the one fuck who spends 3 hours at a buffet

and its not cheap but yall defend it because 2jz

but yall realize ite in like 4 other fucking cars

[meager hinge]

Bruh it’s not even that heavy

[brazen canopy]

that you can scoop up for under 10k

like these supra fanboys will defend stick and the 2j but not know what pedel is clutch

[dense shard]

But those aren't supras

[meager hinge]

The Supra is a good car it is just overrated

[brazen canopy]

and still think stick is faster than an auto

[gaunt prism]

2jz is not what made the supra though

It’s the v6 twin turbo that’s the good one

[meager hinge]

Bruh

What

No

[brazen canopy]

thats a 2jz you lasagna @gaunt prism

wait

[gaunt prism]

Is it?

[brazen canopy]

v6

[dense shard]

V6?

[brazen canopy]

wtf crack you smoking

and another thing

[meager hinge]

I actually like the Nissan Silvia a lot

it's my favorite

[brazen canopy]

the 2jz isn't the only toyota motor (it isnt but anyway) that can handle mad power

[gaunt prism]

Ohhh ok

[meager hinge]

tUnEd SuPrA

[brazen canopy]

my camry's v6 can be built to make 1000whp fwd

[gaunt prism]

So it’s a straight 6 twin turbo?

[sand wadi]

imagine thinking every jdm car makes 1000hp

lmfaoo

[brazen canopy]

but yall dont see fanboys creaming over camry's

[dense shard]

Camry can't make a grand.

[brazen canopy]

and it isnt that nimbke

[meager hinge]

idk

slammed camrys are cool

[brazen canopy]

the supra handles that of a normal sedan

[dense shard]

Thing is the 2JZ can make mad power with stock internals

[brazen canopy]

its not that agile due to its weight

[meager hinge]

how would you know that

have you driven one

[dense shard]

Few cars can do that.

[brazen canopy]

have friends that have

[meager hinge]

if I'm not mistaken, the supra is less than 3000lb?

[sand wadi]

2jz ge motors can hardly hold 500 on stock internals

[brazen canopy]

@dense shard my camry's v6 can handle like 400 wheel with fairly stock internals

[sand wadi]

if its the gte maybe 650 at the most on low boost

[fathom socket]

2jz-ge motors are nearly identical

[meager hinge]

ngl I love the mk3 a lot more than the mk4

[fathom socket]

to gte motors

[dense shard]

400 is a far cry from 1000

[fathom socket]

just different pistons

[sand wadi]

yes without the good internals or the turbo

[fathom socket]

and some head differences

[brazen canopy]

but 200 stock @dense shard

[fathom socket]

same internals @sand wadi

[dense shard]

That's low for a V6

[fathom socket]

only difference are the pistons

[brazen canopy]

thats fucking more than double since they get chp from factory

[fathom socket]

for lower compression

[dense shard]

Different pistons IS different internals

[fathom socket]

its not without the good internals then

its just different for being able to support a turbo

[dense shard]

Pistons alone can make a huge difference

[sand wadi]

i wanna know why people think is300s and 350z's are worth 10k+

thats the funny thing

[fathom socket]

no way a normal stock 350z is worth 10k

6k on a good day

[sand wadi]

i see 03 350s going for 10k all day its embarrassing

[brazen canopy]

mhm

le shitbox

[fathom socket]

Well they go for 30-40k near me so

[sand wadi]

same with clapped out is300s

[fathom socket]

i guess thats better

[brazen canopy]

its an iron block tho

[sand wadi]

mfs want 8k for a 01 is300 with 250k

[dense shard]

Iron is a fine material

[brazen canopy]

is 300s are getting expensive bc 2jz@sand wadi

[dense shard]

VW still uses it

[fathom socket]

is200s are dirt cheap

because no 2jz

[gaunt prism]

Is 300 don’t come in manual though?

[fathom socket]

they do

[gaunt prism]

Not here

[fathom socket]

just rare

they do in US

and UK

[sand wadi]

rather have a sc300 with the 1jz

[fathom socket]

thats not a sc300

thats a soarer

[brazen canopy]

tbh i hate some of the manual fanboys

like manuals are fun

[meager hinge]

[sand wadi]

is300 come in manual but the manual trans in them are garbage. the autos can handle more hp

which is weird

[fathom socket]

Not really

[brazen canopy]

but 1. a bitch to daily
2. arent faster than newer autos

[fathom socket]

arent they R154s

[gaunt prism]

No is 300 is auto only in uk

[meager hinge]

the only auto i would take is a PDK lmao

[sand wadi]

been proven that the autos in is300s can handle more

[gaunt prism]

I like dsg

[dense shard]

Ew

[sand wadi]

alot of the high hp builds on is300s are auto

or manual swapped to something else

[brazen canopy]

like they hate on autos but get fucking gapped by a 10spd mustang with 150 less horsepower

[meager hinge]

-__-

[sand wadi]

imagine owning a mustang

lmao

[fathom socket]

Pretty sure is300s come with w55s

[brazen canopy]

autos in the 90s and older are slow

[fathom socket]

or r154

which arent that durable

overall

and they are ancient trannies

[brazen canopy]

but anything newer is on par or better than manuals

[sand wadi]

wrong

[brazen canopy]

wrong?

[fathom socket]

wrong?

[brazen canopy]

im correct but ok

[sand wadi]

depends on the car

[fathom socket]

maybe some CVTs are garbage

but no

[brazen canopy]

obviously but even so

[dense shard]

It does depend

[humble cargo]

Oh hey happiness, wasn’t expecting to see you on here

[dense shard]

Corolla HB manual is still faster than the automatic

[brazen canopy]

even todays cheap autos shift faster than manuals

[gaunt prism]

I drove a juke cvt, I like that

[fathom socket]

Juke more like a

jump off a cliff

lmao

got em

[brazen canopy]

i want a mirano cabriolet

[gaunt prism]

Nah was pretty good dig t

[meager hinge]

you know sometimes you don't always have to go fast to have fun

[fathom socket]

dig t is cool

[meager hinge]

that's the slogan of the miata

😂

[fathom socket]

but not that cool

[brazen canopy]

or be cool to have fun you forgot that part @meager hinge

[fathom socket]

the only cool juke is the

juke r

[meager hinge]

the coolest juke is no juke

[brazen canopy]

juke is faster than your miata

[meager hinge]

🙂

[dense shard]

Still a Juke

[meager hinge]

do i care

[brazen canopy]

i suppose

[meager hinge]

miata better looking than your juke ass

[fathom socket]

It is still a juke

[meager hinge]

😂

[fathom socket]

just with gtr drivetrain

[gaunt prism]

It was a nismo juke with cvt box. I liked it

[brazen canopy]

miatas look like knockoff hotwheels wdym

[fathom socket]

Idk why you'd get a cvt dig t

[dense shard]

?

[fathom socket]

nismo

while the 6 speed manual exists

[dense shard]

Only for fwd

[fathom socket]

which is faster

[brazen canopy]

id respect a juke build more than a miata build

[fathom socket]

No

[dense shard]

AWD juke only comes in CVT

[fathom socket]

the 6 speed also comes with awd

[brazen canopy]

bc the juke would be unique

[dense shard]

Not in the US

[fathom socket]

idk about the us

[brazen canopy]

every hair salon has a modded miata

[fathom socket]

no they dont

[meager hinge]

nuff said

[dense shard]

Wanna build a NB

[fathom socket]

I've yet to see a hair saloon own a mx-5

[brazen canopy]

looks like your basic miata

[fathom socket]

let alone mod one

[meager hinge]

ye

[brazen canopy]

seen a few myself @fathom socket

[humble cargo]

If the Miata wouldn’t be so tiny id buy one

[brazen canopy]

but miatas are soo cookie cutter

[meager hinge]

no one over like 5' 9" can fit in one

[brazen canopy]

like idc about them anymore

[fathom socket]

how about this then

[brazen canopy]

eh

[fathom socket]

its a hard top na

[gaunt prism]

Wasn’t mine, wouldnt buy a jap car

[fathom socket]

one exists in USA

[meager hinge]

hard tops with fd wings look really good actually

[fathom socket]

The miata M coupe

also the NB coupe

[gaunt prism]

They’re not the same

[meager hinge]

yes

[fathom socket]

they are

because NB and NA are pretty much the same

underneath

[gaunt prism]

Uhm....

[fathom socket]

just with improvements

[gaunt prism]

Maybe underneath

One is convertible one is coupe

[fathom socket]

oh

you mean like that

I thought you meant NA and NB were different

The only part that doesnt cross fit between NA and NB are the fuel tank

and the spare tire

I believe

but dont quote me on that one

[gaunt prism]

Think I like the convertible more, looks a bit strange in a coupe

[dense shard]

Coupes aren't factory

[gaunt prism]

Might be the spoiler though lol

[fathom socket]

They are though?

[dense shard]

No

Hardtop=/= coupe

[fathom socket]

No

The coupe is a factory option for the NB

[dense shard]

Where?

[fathom socket]

Mostly outside the US

Wasnt it japan only

[dense shard]

...

Hong Kong only as a super limited edition

[fathom socket]

Yes it was

japan only

[dense shard]

I wouldn't count that personally

[fathom socket]

I just looked it up

179 produced

For japan only

[dense shard]

Yeah... I wouldn't count that personally

[fathom socket]

Also in 2003, a division of Mazda in Japan released the Roadster Coupé, with a fixed hardtop roof. The body structure was reworked to incorporate the roof and gave a substantial increase in chassis rigidity with a weight increase of 10 kg (22 lb). Production was limited to 179 units for Japan only, making this one of the rarest forms of the MX-5.

[dense shard]

Misread, apparently an example sold in HK recently

[fathom socket]

Probably

imported

because pretty sure there is one in US too

Also MX-5 NB received one star for pedestrians

NB is the best car to run people over

[gaunt prism]

Hahahaha

Now you know

[fathom socket]

@dense shard The one off special was the NA Coupe

The Miata M Coupe

Which is a concept car currently in US

[meager hinge]

no thats the mustang

[fathom socket]

Stop trying to complicate things

[meager hinge]

mustang drivers are idiots

[fathom socket]

My explanation is correct and yours is wrong

I wont have it any other way

[meager hinge]

smh

you're diverging from the truth

[fathom socket]

Here is a 350Z powered Megane to shut you up

[gaunt prism]

Fucking frenchy

[fathom socket]

Excuse me

am literally the least french person on earth

[gaunt prism]

A jap powered french car, that’s the stuff of nightmares

Not you, the car haha :p

[meager hinge]

renault clio rs

[fathom socket]

You mean %70 of the renaults produced in the last 20 years

[gaunt prism]

Yea actually I guess so

[meager hinge]

shame we don't get alpines in the US

[fathom socket]

The 1.5 dCi engine is a nissan developed engine

K9K it was named I believe

[gaunt prism]

Yea it is. Merc has been using it to

[fathom socket]

Yes

And the VQ series is an engine used by renault extensively

Mostly in their bigger cars

@gaunt prism also did you know they made a diesel megane rs

[gaunt prism]

Don’t know what that is tbh

[fathom socket]

Powered by a diesel converted

nissan gas engine

[gaunt prism]

Have not seen but it but I really don’t like renaults.

[fathom socket]

Powered by a nissan gas engine series

converted to run on diesel

Sporty diesel hot hatches were a thing in the mid to late 2000s

Golf GT TDI

Leon TDI FR

Megane RS 175 Dci

Auris D-4D T180

[gaunt prism]

They’re still a thing here. Uk tends to go for smaller cars.

Golf is now a gtd

[fathom socket]

hot hatches never caught on where I live

because they are too fuel thirsty

[gaunt prism]

Haha I’ve only ever seen about 20 v8s in my life

Everything is a 4 pot

[fathom socket]

I see plenty of V8s

just owned by dealerships

or rentals

Not actually owned by an individual

[gaunt prism]

Where are you?

[fathom socket]

Turkey

[gaunt prism]

Ahh

[fathom socket]

Also turkey broke a world record on new car taxes

It can go up to %277

But for normal cars its around the %150 range

[gaunt prism]

Higher on diesel?

[fathom socket]

No higher depending on the price of the car

and the displacement

Also there used to be tax on 4WD too

Dont know if thats still a thing

[gaunt prism]

Yea sounds pretty the same as here but it’s fairly cheap.

[fathom socket]

wait

hoovie bought a 300 dollar porsche cayenne s

[gaunt prism]

One of the best sounding cars I’ve driven.

[fathom socket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0kcysfA8n4

[meager hinge]

hmmm

[gaunt prism]

Bit of a boat though

[fathom socket]

Car prices went down during the quarantine everywhere

except for turkey obviously

it doubled in turkey

me family bought a megane for 40k turkish buckaroos about 3 years ago

now 80k

[gaunt prism]

Interesting.

[stoic ledge]

Hoovie

[humble cargo]

It’s 300$, sell the rims and you already made plus

[fathom socket]

well he is putting in a new engine

including labour thats going to be like 1600

or something

[indigo coral]

hoovie is literally the most wholesome car youtuber

[sweet hull]

yeah

[fathom socket]

and possibly the most masochistic

[sweet hull]

thats a big word ._.

[dense shard]

Dunno, Rich Rebuilds is up there.

[tight cypress]

@stoic ledge trainin porting tomorrow yes

[desert glen]

The smell of cutting oil and machine coolant is an interesting combo

[carmine summit]

so for some reason I'm thinking of buying a Lexus SC300

[dense shard]

do it

[indigo coral]

do it

[static canopy]

bet

[fathom socket]

Welp what do you guys think if this. It's my grandfathers truck that he loved by heart but unfortunately he passed away in June 19 I'm still a little upset about it but I will be happy to be the next owner to take care of this S10 pickup. It has 290.544 miles in it and runs like a charm.

Few scratches no dents

[flint sable]

Nice!

[fathom socket]

Anyway this happen when my girlfriend is at her job place

[flint sable]

Haha

[carmine summit]

If I do buy a Lexus SC300 I'd like to get stock 2JZ-GTE turbos to put on it

And probably manual swap it, because I don't really like slushboxes

[fathom socket]

Can someone explain me how to choose rims for my car?

I need a 3nd set of steelies for my focus mk1 but I'm confused with all parameters

[stoic ledge]

@fathom socket

a.aJxbb

a.a is the width of the rim in inches, bb is the diameter of the rim in inches

ET cc

ET is a measurement which indicates how far away the hart of the wheel is relative to the centre of the wheel in millimeters

So, for example, a rim with dimensions 6.5Jx16" is 6.5" wide and 16" in diameter. With an ET 30, it's hart (mountingplace of the wheel) is offset 30 mm to the outside compared to the centre of the wheel

Tire size: aaa/bb Rcc
aaa: width of the tire in millimeters
bb: height if the sidewall in percentage relative to the width of the tire
cc: the diameter of the rims

[tawdry sail]

Not driftstang

Disappointed

https://youtu.be/CCFB_Ur4lfY

Is this mod street legal?

Pretty sure it is not road legal

[flint sable]

Post-lockdown shenanigans

[dense shard]

Lockdown ended?

I wasn't aware covid-19 had passed

Bravo

[humble cargo]

@flint sable oh i like the one in the front

The rear on the back one isn’t my type

[flint sable]

Yeah it had the carbon roof

Sadly the dude that owned it unexpectedly passed a month or two ago

[dense shard]

"bro, it's not just a car, it's a Supra!"

[fathom socket]

Yo dude is THAT a SuPrA>>>??>?>?

[dense shard]

https://tenor.com/view/supra-toyota-spray-wipe-gif-15936938

[wild tiger]

so i looked at the license plate rules for my state

i can put them on my roof rack

im kinda tempted

to mess with plate scaners

[indigo coral]

LOL

if its legal, do it

[wild tiger]

the cop would have to enter it by hand

saying the roof rack is 7ft up

bc large suv

[civic girder]

that's funny

if they pulled you over you can point there and say "it doesn't specify that it has to be mounted to the bumper"

[dense shard]

careful.

Cops don't do technicality very well.

And arguably mounting it to the roof rack isn't "secure"

[versed oasis]

Car go vroom nyoom

Also camber is stupid when there is too much

Don’t @ me

[wild tiger]

its a part of the car that cant be removed

if its on a good mount its fine

[native swan]

https://tenor.com/view/nissan-skyline-r32-gtr-r33-gif-9061866

[wild tiger]

what other dumb things can i abuse to annoy cops

i want to add side marker lights

cops love those

[fathom socket]

So Linus uploaded a vid why he doesn't want a Tesla. May someone have a one-liner (TL;DR Version) why he doesn't? Currently havn't enough time to watch it.

[stoic ledge]

Price & practicality

[eager grove]

This is not why he doesn't WANT one

it's why he did buy one a couple years ago

he bought his in-laws a model y very recently

I think if he was doing it now he'd probably buy a Tesla

[stoic ledge]

Except he really disapproves the supply chain/right to repair of Tesla

it's why he did buy one a couple years ago
No?

[autumn mantle]

https://www.thedrive.com/tech/36274/tesla-model-y-owners-find-cooling-system-cobbled-together-with-home-depot-grade-fake-wood

[humble cargo]

Yo stop my stocks going to loose value

[stoic ledge]

Gg

[wheat hatch]

Lmao

[stoic ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/not-stonks-profit-down-sad-frown-arms-crossed-gif-15684535

[eager grove]

No?
@stoic ledge Sorry why he didn't buy one a couple of years ago. Not why he wouldn't buy one now

[stoic ledge]

Ah, makes more sense

[fathom socket]

I think my car is too reiable for what I've paid

wat car is dat?

[charred depot]

cant you tell its one of the fastest cars in the galaxy

[fathom socket]

nah

[charred depot]

listen to the crisp engine note

its a limited edition 1 of 3000 mazda 2 takuya includes features like being totalled by the previous owner

[fathom socket]

how it was totalled?

[charred depot]

i dunno they plowed into the back of someone

off the record totalled though :^)

[civic spoke]

Being totalled is oposite of what you want.

[fathom socket]

being totalled adds character and heritage to the car what do you mean

[dense shard]

Linus didn't get a Tesla because the Volt works better for him.

Nevermind the Volt is cheaper and is less of a pita to own

Could be worse. Linus could live in the US

[civic spoke]

Heyo.

[stoic ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-oh-yes-yeah-hey-gif-13690030

[flint sable]

Needs a bath

[stoic ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/flood-gushing-car-muddy-water-dangerous-gif-12513567

[dense shard]

"wooo, yeah send it!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UFUGUHAFCc

[wanton berry]

you guys like diesels

[dense shard]

Not very?

[flint sable]

I like the one off R8 diesel

[dense shard]

80 Mercedes diesels are great

As are pre dieselgate VWs

[azure turtle]

This is my car

[dense shard]

lol

That is so bad on so many levels.

[charred terrace]

RGB

[modest haven]

wheel bearing maybe

[wanton berry]

12v diesel mustang?

[tawny ermine]

car

[bitter compass]

i just found out

Hyundai makes the same stupid car as vw 🤔

i10N

👀

[fathom socket]

Anyone watching the race ?

[hybrid wagon]

🤔 does anyone feel like sorting out 'car' electrics?.... two of these rear lights...
blink red instead of yellow as they should, when rest of the lights are turned on, if lights are turned off they did at some point mostly blink yellow (but also bit red?) ... my brain says there must be something wrong with grounding but I don't really see how or where...

[heady gate]

I think it needs bigger tires

[fathom socket]

question

so I wanted to take my car to a race track

do u think oil cooler would be necessary?

[azure turtle]

I think it needs bigger tires
@heady gate

Duh!

no kidding dude

[carmine summit]

do u think oil cooler would be necessary?
@fathom socket depends on the car, but it wouldn't be a bad idea either way

cooling is probably the most important upgrade, other than maybe tires and brakes

[fathom socket]

oh god

my tires are old, too narrow and too short

my car is a focus with 1.8 zetec engine

I'm gonna to get bigger rims too but I still have no idea how to choose

[fallow plover]

I would recommend an oil cooler if going to a track, bcs If I press my car hard (BMW 320CI) it even gets hot on the streets doing autobahn speeds, still within reason for too hot, highest Ive seen yet was somewhere close to 110C recorded with an M3 cluster and its with imperial gauges

[fathom socket]

actually my heat needle bounces left and right

[fallow plover]

going in a straight line at high speeds wont heat up as much, but track where you keeping high revs and not as high constant speed, there would not be as much heat going away from the oil

[fathom socket]

I'm worried more about oil temp

because IDK if my car can even indicate that oild is overheating

but I very often rev my car high

and on autobahn I drive usually at 4k RPM

[carmine summit]

I'd say get an oil cooler then probably

[fallow plover]

You could go a different route, where you buy an oil temp gauge if not already fitted somewhere, then best case, you just glance at the gauge and see if you get akward temps or not

If buying a gauge, make sure both the sensor and gauge can act fast, so there is no waiting time when you have warmed up to about 95-100C and then you drive half a lap for it to update the temp is 110C

most gauges arent that slow tho, but I would suggest buying a branded gauge like Innovate, AEM or alike

[autumn mantle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkoCuKOSpeo

[marble path]

vehicular murder

[dense shard]

Chances are you'll overheat the brakes before you overheat the oil.

Also fairly certain most cars don't monitor oil temps. Just oil pressure/level.

And if those lights go on you are hosed anyway.

[static canopy]

ooh

300zx

[marsh patio]

my dream car

[carmine summit]

That appears to be a Lexus

I don't know my 90s Lexus' well enough, but is that an LS400?

[static canopy]

@teal badger

[fathom socket]

Kinda looks like a ford badge on the grille right?

I bet it's a Toyota Avalon

[indigo coral]

toyota

[dense shard]

Looks like an old Avalon.

If it is a Lexus... maybe an ES300.

nope... this is before the Avalon shared a platform with the ES.

nice

[humble cargo]

When you took over the whole parking lot with 30+ mustangs and a stock targa 3.0 mk4 just casually rolls though

[carmine summit]

Supras are neat

I'm looking at buying a car that's basically a Supra sometime soon

[thick basin]

thats a beautiful supra too

whats your definition of basically a supra?

[carmine summit]

SC300

Pretty much the same car underneath

[thick basin]

mm interesting

ive had my eyes set on a ‘08 viper for years

[carmine summit]

I'd like to get a 2JZ-GTE to put in it instead of the 2JZ-GE it would come with

only thing is they're like $4k minimum, and a GE is only worth like $750 lol

[thick basin]

lol

[wild tiger]

The temps are starting to get low so ppl are lining up to get air at the gas station, last year i installed a compressor were the g3 explorer has its tire iron( ford moved it on the g4 leaving a area un used) so i dont have to get air in line like a normie

I also added a self charging jumper pack

So i can jump start my self

[flint sable]

Dusty

[dull bridge]

Pretty

@wild tiger I installed my item compressor too! So much better than paying $1.50 USD to top of a tire

[pearl tiger]

Heya, anyone has/uses/knows some good dashcam app for android (so i can use my phone as cam) [primarly to film my trips in car]?

[stoic ledge]

I'd just recommend a good dashcam

You're writing like 500Mb/3 minuts, or even more

[civic spoke]

Same. Something more permanent.

[stoic ledge]

Without the proper camera angle

[civic spoke]

A phone works for the odd trip.

[stoic ledge]

A dedicated dashcam has many advantages

Sure but a dashcam for every trip ftw

[pearl tiger]

yeah im not recording everything.. just every now and then. currently i just use the camera app normally to record in 1080p60.. but i miss info like speed

[flint sable]

Bathe

[flint sable]

Wheel

[fathom socket]

thinking about getting a '17-'19 Ford Fusion Sport anyone here familiar with them? 330hp/380lbft sounds nice for the price

[flint sable]

In for the night

[dense shard]

Fast car, but not much in the turns, and it's still a Ford.

If you can find one for a good price, go for it.

It's a muscle car essentially, but in sheep's clothes.

[hardy osprey]

Ok boomer

[dense shard]

Nothing wrong with a boomer car.

It's just the mindset.

[undone crow]

A boomer car

[static canopy]

What categorizes a "boomer* car tho

Lmao

Besides the obvious

[sinful folio]

i kinda like vintage cars

there's nothing boomer about them

[median egret]

@hardy osprey IS THAT

A NOVA

[hardy osprey]

Yes

[median egret]

72?

[hardy osprey]

No idea

[median egret]

with custom shaker hood

I thi k 1972

judging from the grille

The chevy nova was god tier styling

[hardy osprey]

lol

[median egret]

my childhood dream car

seriously

And I don't know why

[hardy osprey]

IMO No Chevy Nova is right unless it's got a duck ornament

[median egret]

Wha

[hardy osprey]

If you like the Chevy nova, you need to watch DeathProof

[median egret]

A dark blue Chevy Nova SS with chrome bumpers, chrome detailing and everything?

timeless

[median egret]

noooo

[hardy osprey]

lol

[median egret]

that's also a 70s nova I think

[hardy osprey]

It's made to be a movie car

(In a movie)

[median egret]

Okie

[hardy osprey]

roll cage & all

the movie is very violent lol

[median egret]

70s Nova has that grille

I prefer the 1972 model year

[hardy osprey]

I think I have a photo of the rear hold on

[median egret]

Okie

[hardy osprey]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[median egret]

Yessss

the coolest car if you get that in Europe

If I'm ever able to, I'll probably swap the engine for either

either a V8

or electric

electric because cheap here

[hardy osprey]

Electric conversion here in Quebec are getting more and more common with classic cars lol

[median egret]

I don't mind electric muscle

[hardy osprey]

Which is great because I kinda wanna do that lol

[median egret]

Yea

[hardy osprey]

Someone I know did a full electric conversion on a 68' VW camper

[median egret]

1972 Nova SS with P100D power

Oh hell yeah I'm buying that

But first I have my more realistic project

[median egret]

Ah

[hardy osprey]

Thing is full electric

[median egret]

That's kinda cool

[hardy osprey]

It's really nice

[median egret]

but it's not really uh

[hardy osprey]

It's actually got some power lol

[median egret]

It's basically a porsche van

[hardy osprey]

it's a nissan leaf power plant lol

[median egret]

haha

[hardy osprey]

Another guy who's a client of them has a full Tesla electric converted S2000

That thing

my god is it scary

[median egret]

Ooh

GIVE ME THAT F20C

or F22C

[hardy osprey]

lol

[median egret]

F20C is less powerful as ths F22C

byt

but

8,8k rpm

vs 8

[hardy osprey]

https://youtu.be/adVuuilJGMI?t=46

[median egret]

I kinda want to build a M113K swapped 190E with Evo II kit

[hardy osprey]

I really want a 1987 Mr2 T-Top swapped for electric

[median egret]

Ooh do you wanna die

[hardy osprey]

lol

I love this look so much

Though I wouldn't do a powerful electric swap lol

I want the car for the looks more than racing

anyway, gtg sleep lol

[median egret]

LWD

left wheels

fuck the right ones

[hardy osprey]

too expensive lol

[median egret]

XD

Goodnight!

[hardy osprey]

Night

[median egret]

Sleep well hun

[median egret]

?

[flint sable]

Grille.

[stoic ledge]

[warm sparrow]

Indeed

[bitter compass]

do not understand meme

maybe is failing against amd because its driving on the wrong side of the road, fight me brits

[untold stirrup]

1 hour later

[fathom socket]

why ford focus is such a popular company car?

my focus used to be a company cars and I see a lot of ESTATE focuses that are company cars

[stoic ledge]

Why not?

[median egret]

Focus Estates do look good is configured correctly

[stoic ledge]

Meh the current model looks quite sad from the rear imho

But still, they're probably in most people's price range for most company car owners, drive quite well, specced and priced decently... So it's not a bad choice

[median egret]

The new model focus looks better on the rear

but only on the longer estate

I prefer these horizontal ish headlights overthe weird shaped one

[fathom socket]

HHM

my focus looks super generic on rear

I'm just using my focus for transporting stuff

[humble cargo]

I don’t have a car with much cargo space

Like all my cars are tiny or just not made for carrying things

[bitter compass]

drives with a vw up to ikea

yep im not gonna buy a new desk today

[stoic ledge]

Nice, saved some money then ^

[fathom socket]

I've actually saved a lot of money for transporting stuff my self

[stoic ledge]

[bitter compass]

i actually try to transport as much by myself as i can

but well.. i don't have much roof space or cargo space 👀

as much as i would love to get an rs3 or up gti, if that little piece of shit dies, i think something more practical would be better for me 👀

but i say my car has another 100k km to live except someone crashes into it

[fathom socket]

I was thinking of doing a stupid thing to my cart

I would swap my engine for a duratec engine

when it dies

and if the body will still be good

[bitter compass]

honestly

i want to slap a turbo into mine but.. doing anything isn't worth it 🤔

[fathom socket]

I'm gonna to slap a oil cooler if I need it

[meager hinge]

we don't get the focus in the USA... :(

makes no sense

[civic girder]

what

we don't get the focus in the USA... :(
I must be blind then because I see countless Focus' every day

[fathom socket]

the 2nd gen ford focus is ugly

especially the interior

[stoic ledge]

It's better than Gen 1 imho

[fathom socket]

and I don't like the third gen lift

[civic girder]

the "2nd gen" focus is awful

gen 1 honestly is better than even the new focus

[fathom socket]

I actually rarely see 2nd gen focus or 3rd gen pre lift

[civic girder]

I see primarily, 2nd gen, 3rd gen, and the occasional gen 1 wagon

[fathom socket]

I see 1st gen and 4th gen

[civic girder]

1st gen sedans and hatches are rare now

wiat, there's 4 gens of focus now????

[fathom socket]

I have a neighbour that has a sedan

since 2018

[civic girder]

shows how much I care about Ford lmfao

[fathom socket]

I have a mk1 estate

[civic girder]

ye, the estate is cool

[fathom socket]

I rarely see estate

[civic girder]

I saw one on the road today, actually

[fathom socket]

I see a crap ton of hatches

[civic girder]

I don't see them often, but far more than sedans and hatches

[fathom socket]

I think that the rear could look better

I really like the look of the hatch

[civic girder]

same

[fathom socket]

but the estate looks like opel

[civic girder]

I styled a car after the hatch in Automation actually, lol

[fathom socket]

wait

u play automation?

[civic girder]

ye

I haven't played in a while, but I have been thinking about getting back into it

[fathom socket]

now it's bad time

bearly any mods work

[civic girder]

Yea, I stopped playing when they updated the engine

[fathom socket]

the game is evolving

[civic girder]

I've noticed that most mods are fixed, so I'm starting to feel reasonably confident I won't have too many issues

[fathom socket]

proffesionally fixed door handle

[civic girder]

Offbrand Focus

[fathom socket]

heh

when did u make this?

[civic girder]

That's the Cup spec version tho, bit of a race car

a while ago

that screenshot is date stamped for March 13 2020

[fathom socket]

I'm 5th owner of my focus

it was a company car

2 companies owned it

and it has 300k

km

[civic girder]

damn

[fathom socket]

the engine is healthier than cars with 1/2 the milage from germany

[civic girder]

ah, here's the road spec version

[fathom socket]

it looks like you took fiesta and focus and put it in blender

[civic girder]

the engine is healthier than cars with 1/2 the milage from germany
unsurprising

I only had a picture of the gen 1 focus up on screen when I designed it

[fathom socket]

the body reminds me of fiesta

[civic girder]

its weird hearing people comment on my creations and be like "it looks like 'x' car" and I'm like " 🤔 , I don't see that at all"

[fathom socket]

also my car was whole life in poland

[civic girder]

yea, the automation bodies tend to be blender mishmashes of multiple cars

[fathom socket]

it was pretty much serviced at ford most of the time

[civic girder]

nice

aesthetic pics with glowly lights

[fathom socket]

the body really looks like 3rd gen fiesta

[civic girder]

I can kinda see that ig

[fathom socket]

I most of the time I make crap to drive in beam.ng drive

[civic girder]

I write lore for cars

and then will export to beam for fun

I do time trials to compare my performance cars

[fathom socket]

I've made some actually really well handling cars

[civic girder]

same

[stoic ledge]

the "2nd gen" focus is awful
@civic girder US second gen Focus was different from the European model 😉

[civic girder]

ah

[stoic ledge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Focus_(second_generation,_Europe)

Wiki has some pics of it

[civic girder]

iirc our second gen was basically a refreshed first gen

[stoic ledge]

Yes

But we had an entirely new platform

[fathom socket]

the interior looks cheaper to me

[civic girder]

ah yea.

Ours was the exact same platform

we didn't get the new platform until 2014 iirc

[stoic ledge]

That's the 3rd gen yes