Oof
#cars
fathom socket
i might go and check just because im interested
stoic ledge
It even has some flowers on the sidewall
charred depot
my cars pretty noisy on motorway
charred depot
bruh having a new car
stoic ledge
Actually they are quite decent
But they're nearly low on thread
So after the summer, 4 new tires
fathom socket
car thats almost as old as you are gang
stoic ledge
First doing some donuts ofc
dense shard
My car is a year old now.
fathom socket
do mad driftu on old tyres until theyre bald
stoic ledge
8.5y/o 
Have it 4 years now
charred depot
several careful owners
stoic ledge
1 minor rear ender, only cosmetic damage
fathom socket
Exactly
Gotta look fresh when checking tyres
ok so the 2 front ones are the same
Pirelli CINTURATO something
rear right is also pirreli p300
right one i couldnt tell said rain on it
not too bad
fathom socket
yeah i saw that the pirrelli performance ones are the best in every category apart from rolling resistance or something
but most of these arent the perf ones
stoic ledge
https://images.pitstopcdn.net/Hankook-Kinergy-Eco-K425/images2d/Hankook-Kinergy-Eco-K425_0001.jpg
I have these, you can see the flowers = 
(Not those hideous rims tho)
fathom socket
fathom socket
facts right there
i never thought the tyres on my car were that expensive but nice
stoic ledge
fathom socket
would make a great joke on top gear just to have that one pirreli p zero and 3 other cheapo tyres
stoic ledge
Maybe your size is expensive as well
fathom socket
its a mini so i think the cheapest fitted i can get is like 55
charred depot
my mazda 2 has 195 45 R16
a higher up model i think the sport has 205's but id technically have to declare it to my insurance if i increased from standard size
stoic ledge
I have 195/55 R16, which is like 30% more expensive than the 205/55 R16 which you can find on basically everything lol
charred depot
atleast i dont have the model with 175's
fathom socket
at least you dont have an x5
charred depot
pizza wheels
stoic ledge
Top tip; don't calculate how much you've spend on a car over x period of time
I did it the other day for my 4 year ownership... I'm still recovering
fathom socket
now i wanna know the number
charred depot
when the alternative is 4 seperate busses in a row, it wouldnt bother me
i used to do the 4 busses biggest problem is if you arrive as one leaves you are waiting like 15-30 minutes
had to leave at around 6am to arrive for 9
stoic ledge
now i wanna know the number
@fathom socket it was like 12k or something (excluding the purchased of the car)
12k EUR that is
fathom socket
damn
i think the avg for a petrol car is supposed to be about 3.5k a year so that makes sense
stoic ledge
That's fuel/insurance/tax/maintenance
fathom socket
but your car is brand new so id have expected bette
stoic ledge
Brand new 
dense shard
My car is brand new.
fathom socket
oh wait ye got people mixed up whoops
stoic ledge
indigo coral
stoic ledge
Tax + insurance is like 60% of my expenses
stoic ledge
Hard for me to do, every time I go on the highway my plate is registered
So they'll immediately notice I'm driving the csr without tax
fathom socket
true true
stoic ledge
BMW #2 most reliable European brand according so Scotty in the US 
(Yes, > Scotty)
carmine summit
Scotty clearly knows nothing about any car that isn't a 1996 Corolla
stoic ledge
- Volvo
- BMW
- Mercedes-Benz
- VAG
- Mini
- Alfa Romeo
- Fiat
Yes Scotty is an idiot
'94 Celica btw
indigo coral
Scotty is a crackpot piece of shit whose head is so far up his ass that he spews shit out of his mouth
Yes I hate him
carmine summit
Celica, corolla, close enough
stoic ledge
Yes I don't like him either
carmine summit
Yeah Scotty is a crackpot
indigo coral
imo the most wholesome car youtuber is hoovies garage π€£
carmine summit
mechanic for 50 years my a**
fathom socket
rev up your engines
i usually ignore his vids just because his stuff is mostly american stuff
which i couldnt even get if i wanted one
stoic ledge
His stuff is mostly a '94 Celica
fathom socket
secret dont dot
stoic ledge
Yes
Car Wizard is kind of nice to watch
His acting skillz are
But he's a good guy
fathom socket
i think it looks quite nice for 2008 but yeah its not perfect
i mainly like the headlights
dense shard
I'm not huge on car youtube.
I mostly stick to the review channels such as Throttle House or Redline Reviews.
Car culture? RCR, and that's it.
oh and I guess Savage Geese? That's kind of car culture?
stoic ledge
Redline Reviews With Sofyan
dense shard
It's pretty much the only channel that straight up reviews a car without messing around.
stoic ledge
I watch savagegeese, Redline, Andie The Lab, Car Throttle, Dougy, Hoovie, Car Wizard, Car Throttle and 2 Dutch channels
indigo coral
But in a wholesome way
dense shard
Hoovie is car culture.
stoic ledge
Hoovie is awesome
stoic ledge
This BMW is the only BMW behind me
Z3 in the corner: am I a joke to you?
What's up with the Z3? It has been there for months
fathom socket
i always get concerned about his finances just because he buys a supercar a week but im sure he might be fine
dat aston martin rapide doe
where is this single seat
can i buy it al lttstore.com?
stoic ledge
Yesn't
fathom socket
that red 2008 supercar was supposed to have hydrogen injection
apparently people said that would be the next big thing then
stoic ledge
You can run any gas engine on hydrogen basically
fathom socket
true but this one had like they add a little to mix in with the fuel in the cylinder
apparently it cut emmisions by 30% but that seems unlikely
fathom socket
twin turbo v8 3.8 litres got 40mpg in the tests i think too
so if theyre not lying it would be quite nice
charred depot
bruh my 1.3l i4 gets 40mpg
stoic ledge
Yes pls
charred depot
to be honest i am using it up to redline all the time
dense shard
ah yes.
The mythical "it does everything bro" car claims.
"it makes 700 horsepower, gets 50 mpg, weighs 1000 kilos, AND it's also emissions compliant."
Last you hear from that company is the CEO is on the run for tax evasion, the factory site is a superfund site, the investors all pulled out, and the engineer is actually 12.
indigo coral
so faraday future?
fathom socket
had 450 actually
im not talking about wether you could buy the car anyway
the hydrogen injection is a thing as is the design
arnold schwartznegger drove it
making it the greatest car in the world after a hummer
stoic ledge
Environmental cars already existed back then
Not trying to say environmentalism is bad...
dense shard
It wasn't a huge concern back then.
stoic ledge
Well it already was
fathom socket
I have a toy car collection problem lol
civic girder
Yea. I really think I bumped a valve back when the spark plug incident happened
Motor is clearly still running well enough, but I think the bad clearance is causing a little low compression on that cylinder and slightly reducing fuel economy
I'm going to call some shops and see how much it might cost to get the valves clearanced and tappets adjusted.
Also maybe will do a compression test and check the sparky bois
Might also add some 10W40 instead of the 0W-whatever it is just for thicker oil
stoic ledge
Hmmm yeah I'd get the clearances checked, it's probably off. No automagically hydrolic adjustable valves I assume?
civic girder
Nope
Solid lifters
Supposedly clearances should be checked on a regular schedule as part of long term maintenance.
I've got Seafoam in the gas rn, trying to get fuel system cleaned out to help isolate issues
indigo coral
yeesh is that the prius?
stoic ledge
Yes it is
indigo coral
mine ticks but that's known and all good
its the injector tick that is common on toyotas
stoic ledge
Yeah my injectors tick as well, but every LPG system does that
dense shard
stoic ledge
Nice
civic girder
My injectors tick as well, but this is a different noise
stoic ledge
Yeah unless your injectors also function as valves, it are not the injectors
dense shard
If your valves have injected themselves into your cylinder, that's bad.
I'd probably ask my mechanic for my money back.
civic girder
I put it back in inspection mode and took more video of it idling. When laying down next to the car, I heard what sounds kinda like pinging. Though it is below a 1/4 tank and has Seafoam in the tank
I'll upload and post once I get back to my PC. Decided the RX-7 got a little lonely with all the attention the Prius has been getting
carmine summit
Oh we're talking about cars that do everything now? I can name one that gets pretty close to doing everything with some modification
1998 Mercedes E300 turbodiesel
They're dead reliable (the engine at least), they can make over 600hp on stock internals, and can still get over 30 mpg with 600hp
dense shard
I imagine they won't be emissions compliant when modified.
carmine summit
Actually, you might be surprised
dense shard
I probably wouldn't.
carmine summit
Compound turbos lower EGTs which helps with emissions
With the right setup it could pass most emissions regulations with ease
Lowering EGTs helps a lot with diesel emissions, not nearly as much with gas engines afaik
dense shard
I have my doubts on a 300D making 600 horsepower on stock parts, and getting 30 mpg.
I've found a lot of people who mod their cars talk out their ass since they either never cared to check economy nor dyno'd their cars.
carmine summit
I mean there's a guy in the UK with one of those in an F250 4x4 who builds them for a living, his truck makes 500 wheel and gets 30mpg
dense shard
"yeah bro, my car makes power on stock internals easy, just needed new turbos, cams, injectors, and water injection."
carmine summit
All stock internals
carmine summit
3.0l turbo diesel straight 6
dense shard
That's not an engine that ever came in an F250.
charred depot
UK mpg != US mpg
carmine summit
It's called a swap
dense shard
Why would you do that?!
carmine summit
Because
dense shard
Unless the guy is swapping over a 6.0...
carmine summit
More power more torque, better fuel economy
dense shard
bullshit on more torque.
carmine summit
It was a 6.9 IDI before
dense shard
Those 7.3s were epic.
civic girder
The RX-7 is running better than ever. Whatever the hell it was that I hooked up, it clearly fixed a vacuum leak. Im up another 2mpg and she revs a lot more freely. Sounds a little weird when dropping to idle, but it's probably a side affect of whatever emissions thing I hooked up
carmine summit
We used to have a 7.3 IDI
dense shard
IDI?
charred depot
30mpg uk is 25 mpg us by the way
dense shard
...
I had a friend with a 7.3 from the early 2000s who claimed that as well.
He wasn't making 600 horsepower.
He blew out a transmission.
carmine summit
He has an OM606 swapped F250 making 500hp, with diesels high power doesn't necessarily mean poor fuel economy
civic girder
I need to get stronger degreaser. Even with that weak degreaser the engine bay us a lot better looking. And I didn't even get to scrub the whole thing doen
dense shard
do it.
civic girder
Look at this radiator shroud, like damn. Its mint underneath all the grime
civic girder
It looked really bad before though
I can always clear coat it
Can read the oil cooler sticker now π
fathom socket
woah
civic girder
This is a good pic to demonstrate the before and after
dense shard
Anyway. Perhaps the diesel can make power, economy, and meet emissions, but the last 5 years have taught me that not even automakers can do it reliably. So please understand, boost. I'll believe it when I see it.
fathom socket
id rather see a hydrogen rotary
well basically a rotary that can bi fuel hydrogen and petrol
like a real chad
dense shard
I wanna say a hybrid rotary.
EV for low end torque, rotary for the rest.
also
Teslaβs insane stock price makes sense in a market gone mad
"Teslaβs bewildering share price makes more sense when you think of it as a hyper-exaggerated product of β and maybe metaphor for β a stock market that itself has stopped making sense, at least by conventional measures."
tl;dr: the stock market doesn't reflect reality.
fathom socket
hasnt for quite some time anyway
tesla is just a rather obvious indicator of this
as was bitcoin
mazda beat me to it
put it in a car or just sell the engine now please
dense shard
I just want a manual RX-9
Not an rotary generator.
A hybrid system would do wonders.
fathom socket
hmmmmm
civic girder
The plot thickens
fathom socket
rotary swap it
civic girder
May have to at this point
piston engine too complicated 
eghhh, its so hard to pinpoint where exactly it comes from
I'm probs gonna have to grab a long ass extension and do it that way
charred depot
send medical assistance
my guy, takes photo of car on phone, then takes a photo of his phone.
whats worse is how scuffed the screen is
probably an automatic anyway :^(
fathom socket
theyre imports right
if its only the one with pop ups youre looking at youre right
suprisingly that is one tasty interior
@charred depot what aboot this one
charred depot
looking for Mk2 or Mk3
olive flower
@civic girder sounds like valve tick and you should check your compressionin all cylenders and if 1 is diffrent by alot than you may have a bent valve rod
civic girder
That's kinda what I was thinking. Was going to try and do comp testing on all 4 cyls tomorrow
From what I understand though, a bent valve would cause significant issues, such as major power loss
but the car drives as if nothing is wrong
Makes me think its just clearance issues. But we'll see
olive flower
yea i was going to say it could be a bad motor mount and it could be vibrating
civic girder
That could also be possible, though I doubt it.
I'm going to take a long extension and play doctor tomorrow as well. Try and see if I can figure out where its coming from
olive flower
ok
delicate sinew
When one transmission isnβt enough
civic spoke
That would make zero sense.
civic girder
?
civic spoke
Having seven gearboxes.
civic girder
ooh
civic spoke
Considering the whack gearing you would have.
dense shard
When you rock crawlin' you gotta have the right gearing.
fathom socket
dunno if youre gonna have 7 gearboxes you might aswell go the whole hog and get 8
certainly gives you something to do when cruising on the motorway
fathom socket
@viscid anvil Not exactly sure why you pinged me of all people, considering I've been absent from Discord for almost 5 months. But yes, I like your car.
civic girder
@fathom socket (sorry for ping), but I think I'm getting close to a solution on the mystery noise in the Prius.
I'm thinking its valvetrain, possibly a valve that is way out of clearance spec
viscid anvil
It's because you once mentioned how much you hated 97-01 ESs
stoic ledge
When one transmission isnβt enough
@delicate sinew lol fake, there are only 3, the rest was copied in there π
stoic ledge
civic spoke
@stoic ledge Looks like it's a normal H-pattern one, and then one for selecting high/low gears? No idea what third one is for.
stoic ledge
Maybe something for auxillaries? Or a tip bed? Or... Idk xD
stoic ledge
stoic ledge
Damn
S5e I assume?
That's not that terrible, that's like a year old
I misread it for Galaxy S5
stoic ledge
@dense shard Corolla Touring Sports 2.0 Hybrid
frank tundra
changing lanes with no indicator π¦
median egret
Yes π©
@stoic ledge Next time I go limburg
meetup idk
i don't even know you ahha
kill me if you want to
frank tundra
thats a weird looking bmw z4 
devout atlas
B romeo giulia 4
stoic ledge
@stoic ledge Next time I go limburg
@median egret I live in the very South xD
kill me if you want to
@median egret yes
median egret
i wouldn't mind tbh
stoic ledge
remote wind
Ima head out
stoic ledge
Hi head out, I'm MK
frank tundra
gotta love it when uconnect just dont want too connect
fiat makes the best audio systems
devout atlas
why?
fathom socket
hope its not windows vista
zealous stratus
fathom socket
what does LOTUS mean
olive flower
civic spoke
Lotus is one of those weird cars.
Where you have to hype up how bad it is to sell it.
You have to convince them that the bad stuff are all good things.
olive flower
no it is meant for a purpose and people don't buy them for the reason they were made they are track cars meant to be nimble not freaky fast if you want to go fast get a corvett
or whatever you prefer
any car can be fast but not all can go around a track well
civic spoke
Or you could just get a Miata.
olive flower
yea i agree lotus cars kinda suck compaird to miatas or realy anything just bc they are so expensive
but if there was a aftermarkit as big as the miata after market then not only rich people woild have lotuses
civic spoke
What I love about Lotus is that their cars are powerful enough.
A normal Elise has 200-something horses.
olive flower
if you need power in a miata you can swap and still have lessinto it compaired to a lotus
civic spoke
217/245 bhp on the Elise.
I think the biggest thing that makes the Elise quick is the lack of weight.
olive flower
turbo built miatas 20-30 k 300 to 400 horse and no shit reliabilaty
civic spoke
You can do what Jason from EE did with his ND1 Miata and supercharge it.
Increases horsepower by 41% and torque by 36% over stock.
Basically 200 hp in a Miata.
olive flower
i think that that would be good for track but i like drifting so i would turbo
civic spoke
How would a supercharger be bad for drifting? Turbo would be worse in my eyes.
olive flower
wend it sideways on the weekendis in a parking lot
civic spoke
You wouldn't have as fine throttle control with a turbo.
olive flower
but is tis more thrilling
civic spoke
Power is a lot more linear with a supercharger.
olive flower
it is only harder if you have a larg turbo
its all about preference at the end of the day
civic spoke
I'd personally go with supercharger. To retain the NA-like-ness.
civic spoke
Turbo is generally better for peak power. Superchargers for lower end torque.
fathom socket
@viscid anvil I mentioned that because my fathers car was involved in a hit and run with a 97-01 ES and $8,000 worth of damage was done. I don't actually hate them.
@civic girder Are you familiar with adjusting valves? You'll need a set of feeler gauges.
civic girder
I was probably going to take it somewhere
Idk if I feel comfortable doing that myself
fathom socket
Probably a wise idea
civic girder
Also, all the spark plugs are soaking wet
fathom socket
It's a very in-depth job
Takes a while for even a master mechanic
Especially because the Prius engine is tucked back very close to the firewall
civic girder
Well, I got about 150psi on cylinders 1,3,4
I got about 145psi or so on cylinder 2
The shop that stuck a camera in the engine said there was no cylinder or cylindder wall damage; and there was no risk of any to occur in the future. So I don't think it would be rings
It's gotta be valve clearance
dense shard
ding dong the midsize manual is dead.
fathom socket
wot
stoic ledge
Wot
stoic ledge
dense shard
I mean... it was the base model not the sports model.
nice option to offer, but I doubt the take rate went over 1%. lol
stoic ledge
I'd get it
fathom socket
woah they have a pretty nice configurator
stoic ledge
Many cars larger than a Focus, Golf or Corolla are auto only nowadays
dense shard
In the case of the Accord... they weren't neutering the feature set, and it came on the 2.0T.
So people flat out aren't buying manuals even when offered something compelling.
stoic ledge
I'd get the manual over the auto any day if I had the choice
But I don't buy new
So I don't get to make that choice
fathom socket
virgin auto vs chad manual
dense shard
I'd say chad automatic.
fathom socket
virgin cylinder vs chad rotary
dense shard
larger gear spread, faster, takes more power.
stoic ledge
Less engaging, doesn't shift when you want it too, shifts too often, ...
fathom socket
less involving, less efficient and less fun
dense shard
uhhhh
Vastly more efficient at this point.
Corolla sees a 5 mpg drop between transmissions.
fathom socket
who needs speed when you can have more fun at a lower speed
dense shard
And I've never had an issue with an automatic shifting when it wasn't supposed to.
At least no more often than me forgetting to shift.
stoic ledge
I've never forgotten to shift
fathom socket
how can you forget to shift
stoic ledge
^
dense shard
My car is actually kinda quiet.
civic girder
I keep an eye on the tach in the RX-7 always. Don't want to overrev
dense shard
So I'll find myself in 4th when I could shift into 5th.
I've always gone by sound.
I almost never look at the tach.
civic girder
And I pay attention to what gear I'm in
fathom socket
i probably look at the tach more than the speedo
fathom socket
mainly because the mini decided to put the speedometer outside my peripheral
civic girder
I would go by sound if I had a shift buzzer. But the S2s didn't. Literally the only thing wrong with the S2s is no shift buzzer
civic girder
I want to
I just have no idea where to solder to because there's no write ups on the forums
All I'd need is an MSD rpm switch and a 7k module for it.
And ofc a loud ass buzzer
stoic ledge
Put an Arduino between it, tap the rpm wire and read it's value
civic girder
But I'd actually probs make the buzzer go off at like 6.5 or 6.8
Just so I don't risk overrev and so I can rev out a little after the buzzer starts to go off
stoic ledge
Yes a friend of mine has
He already registered like a year ago
Had an appointment with the dealership last week
fathom socket
niiice
dense shard
It'll be out when star citizen drops.
fathom socket
just steal one lol
civic girder
dense shard
it's a paper weight.
stoic ledge
He ordered the mid spec, I think it's called the 1st Plus? In turquoise
dense shard
Tesla may be sketch, but VW is just incompetent at this point.
fathom socket
isnt the software update to allow easier OTA updates or something
dense shard
They don't have software finished.
Every single ID.3 produced right now is a shell.
The cars are built, but there's no OS.
fathom socket
last i heard was there is an OS they just dont want to ship them all just to have to recall them to allow OTA updates
stoic ledge
Idk what the exact problem is
fathom socket
long run its better this way
stoic ledge
I know the infotainment is shite
It's already in the Golf, Leon, Octavia... And it's horrible to work with
dense shard
And that was after a year delay on the Golf to fix it.
dense shard
so I've heard.
stoic ledge
Classic VW
dense shard
I'd argue the move to the smaller engine was a huge mistake.
stoic ledge
What smoller engine
dense shard
US had a 1.8T option, but that was removed in favor of the 1.4T.
dense shard
Everything I could read up on it... it was a step back from the 1.8T.
stoic ledge
EU has the choice of a 1.0 TSI and a 1.5 TSI(e)
dense shard
slower, laggy, less refined, but better fuel economy.
stoic ledge
TSIe is a MHEV with the DSG, non-e is manual
dense shard
Apparently the turbo lag was exceptional on the manual.
dense shard
I know VWs tend to be nicer inside, but frankly it's not worth it.
stoic ledge
1.5 TSI is actually a good engine, and that's my opinion while I don't like VAG products lol
That nicer is gone now since the Mk8
dense shard
US didn't get the 1.5.
dense shard
US isn't even getting the new Golf.
fathom socket
rear end is nicer
dense shard
It's another car that the US is losing.
fathom socket
although the main change is the lights
dense shard
Sure we have the Jetta, but that's not a stellar car.
stoic ledge
I don't like the front not back
dense shard
The Mk. 8 looks like a facelifted Mk. 7.
dense shard
I'm not feeling it.
stoic ledge
But they cheaped out on everything
Put a horrible infotainment in it
Made it uglier
And ask more
fathom socket
isnt it mainly supposed to be cheaper to produce than the mk7
dense shard
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Volkswagen_Golf_VIII_IMG_2043.jpg it looks like they got drunk and copied Kia's homework.
Trick to being cheaper to produce is to make us think it isn't cheaper.
Instead it looks cheaper.
stoic ledge
That's why every button is gone and it's all done via the infotainment
fathom socket
ive seen much worse interiors imo
dense shard
Relative to other VWs... and Honda, Toyota, Mazda especially.
stoic ledge
Both ergonomics and quality
dense shard
I'd rather sit in a Honda.
fathom socket
if i had the cash rn id probably get a mazda 3
dense shard
Mazda and Toyota stand above the Mk. 8... hell Mazda stands above everyone.
stoic ledge
Nah Honda's look dated, but modern Toyota and Mazdas are on point
I'd get a used car
dense shard
That's the thing.
stoic ledge
stoic ledge
That's an insult to Kia/Hyundai
fathom socket
theyre obviously trying to give it the more rounded look of the id 3 to make the line look more homologous
dense shard
I think the Korean twins need to liven up.
fathom socket
gl with that
dense shard
Last generation was still a step behind the Japanese.
stoic ledge
Well I quite like the Niro interior, better than a CH-R
dense shard
Niro is a current gen product I'd argue.
stoic ledge
Ah yes
dense shard
And the C-HR is a weird product.
Nothing in it belongs to modern Toyota. It's a weird car.
That being said... the new Sentra looks better than the Mk. 8 Golf.
one sec. Let me find a better VW picture.
nope... Nissan looks nicer. lol
c'mon load
stoic ledge
Access denied
dense shard
yeah one sec. I'm gonna brute force it.
stoic ledge
Sentra exterior is
stoic ledge
Ah that's 1:1 our Nissan Puke Juke interior
dense shard
no glossy plastic on touch points.
fathom socket
i like the overall design of the vw but only if it had the leather stuff
dense shard
VW's interior looks like hard plastic.
stoic ledge
Ok slightly different
dense shard
And here's the biggest issue.
The Nissan offers soft touch plastic on all trims.
VW does not.
fathom socket
i havent been in a recent vw
dense shard
And take note. Nissan has a dedicated HVAC control panel.
stoic ledge
Nope
fathom socket
but the older one i have access to is mostly soft touch
dense shard
VW needs you to use the touch screen to change the temp... or wait.
no wait. π I see the HVAC panel right underneath the nav unit.
dense shard
That's a questionable place to put it?
fathom socket
the mazda 3 interior looks better than both imo
dense shard
wait... only temp?
fathom socket
although the infotainment is smaller i think
dense shard
The Mazda is a much nicer place to be in.
dense shard
Seats aren't very comfortable tho.
stoic ledge
Driver | Volume | Passenger
dense shard
Mazda made a nice luxury car.
stoic ledge
Fan, seat, airflow... All goes through the screen
dense shard
ew
stoic ledge
Mazda interiors are 
fathom socket
well the only way ill drive any of these cars will be in like 15 years soooo guess we'll have to see then
fathom socket
id get an up, polo, id3 or a arteon if i could afford it
stoic ledge
No.
fathom socket
but those are the only ones id consider from their range
dense shard
I remain a fan of Toyota's design.
One of the only cars with white interiors on offer.
stoic ledge
Not in Europe
dense shard
that's a huge shame tbh.
stoic ledge
Did you see the TS 2.0 Hybrid I sent you a pic of?
stoic ledge
Meh most people get black interiors anyway π©
stoic ledge
Like 95%
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still wish the newish 1 series was basically a refreshed old 1 series
dense shard
It's like a Mini, but cheaper. 
stoic ledge
So is a Dacia Sandero
dense shard
same engine, same platform.
fathom socket
at 25k starting id just get a used ev or something
dense shard
At 25k you can get a nice new car in the US.
There is only one thing I wanna upgrade in my car. The door handles.
stoic ledge
At 25k... I can get a nicely equipped new Corsa 1.2 Turbo 100hp
dense shard
They're the only legit cheap piece of kit in my car.
fathom socket
i dont entirely get the point of buying a new car its just more money down the hole for the same thing
although if the warranty is good that'd be a plus
like the 10 year ones
stoic ledge
After Β±2 years I'm changing my Corsa for a manual 1.6T Insignia probably
They'll be depreciated much probably
stoic ledge
Maybe some day when I'm filthy rich
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g-wiz anyone?
stoic ledge
No
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yes
stoic ledge
dense shard
Why not just buy a bike?
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how anyone managed to do 22.7k in one idk
stoic ledge
Idk how it has escaped from the hands of Top Gear/TGT
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for the price of a 1 series i could get an ex demo e 208 or a 2019 leaf
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not any on autotrader under 25
i learned in a 2019 208 so that'd be cool#
or was it 2020
the guy literally got it the week the new one came out
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idk what hp the 208 i drove had
i never looked lol
i like the new e up purely from a cheapest ev standpoint
and its brothers
stoic ledge
The dude which ordered his ID.3 is trading in his e-up!
But like an earlier model
Which now has like 100k miles on it
fathom socket
can get a s85 for 28k
stoic ledge
With a 85-ish mile range
dense shard
Add 7k to fix the broken MCU.
fathom socket
quite impressive
dense shard
And 3k to run the feature back on that Tesla turned off.
Or is the S85 something unrelated to Tesla?
fathom socket
no its a model s
devout atlas
here's an interior
civic girder
Bord
fathom socket
Ah
You'd enjoy talking to a guy I know
He's obsessed with them
Literally wants to own a fleet of them
devout atlas
I love panther bodies
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Cause who doesn't want 6.0l of reliable LS power stock from the factory?
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EWWWW
devout atlas
exclusively
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Unreliable
devout atlas
the dohc 4.6 is a good collector's piece
it makes a lot too
when made to make a lot
:p
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I've rebuilt 3 valves with only 120k
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They are cool
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Especially Marauders
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But they're no good in terms of reliability
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My brother has a 2 valve 4.6l F-150
Slow as shit
He wants to ProCharge it
Or trade it for a Duramax that we're going to look at tomorrow
median egret
@stoic ledge don't get electric bruh
get vroom vroom cars
electric might be fast but
V8 noises
are addicting
stoic ledge
@median egret I'm not
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Cybertruck. Slap on those rough terrain tires and go on the highway.
I promise you have more than enough noise π
devout atlas
cybertruck. the only truck that hipster-pumpkin-spice-latte-sjw-arse hipsters will buy
stoic ledge
median egret
Uh
only electric car id get rn would be a lightyear one
yes slow but yes efficient
If you're gonna promote electric cars cuz efficiency
don't make them go 0-60 in 2.8
stoic ledge
π€
quartz fern
stoic ledge
Gotta love the image you used is in Dutch Voortuigzijde, laadpuntzijde...
civic spoke
Doug saw a 1 series in USA. And I'm like "Heh".
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Is VW golf 4 gti with 287k km worth even buying
dense shard
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stoic ledge
Octavia VRS
charred depot
(he didnt my heatshield broke loose yet again)
after 6 hours of driving in edinbruh i covered a whopping 50 miles
edinbruh moment
i like how they felt the need to add fucking speedbumps made of cobblestone
fathom socket
I was expecting something to happen lol
charred depot
i had a suprisingly uneventful drive around edinbruh besides the usual honking and a guy getting hit by a van
theres so many traffic tickety people in edinbruh yet so many people are parked on double yellows
pretty hard for anything significant to happen when your never going above 20mph unless no ones paying attention
fathom socket
@fathom socket you want something cheap and small the answer is literally an old 1.9tdi vw
If you hate diesels that much a 1.6 fsi
but it's TDI
So?
They are fine engines
the tax
is gonna to be high
Unless you get late 2000s
Then get a 1.6fsi
and I fell sick driving diesels for long times
1.6fsi
Or a 1.4
If you can find one
thay are really high milage
1.8 20V Turbos are also fine if you want performance
Obviously
They are old cheap cars
They are going to have some distance covered
When you are looking for a cheap car, you don't have any options like "Low mileage" or "nice smell"
the problem is
for such a small engine like 1.4
isn't that high
dense shard
Depends on how the miles were covered.
In the US high mileage highway miles aren't usually viewed as a huge negative.
fathom socket
like 300k km
car mechanics are really expensive here
so replacing a clutch instead of costing like 250 usd is gonnma to cost me 2000 usd
civic spoke
I almost forgot about this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsLi7HgSuhI
dense shard
incredible run.
frank tundra
Took my c63 out for a rip today
havenβt driven it in a minute and forgot how good these sound
civic girder
He probs means its losing clear and is starting oxidize
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the hood has matte finish
civic girder
Yep, as I suspected
civic girder
I mean, the paint is fucked, but car looks alright
Like my car.
Shit paint, good car
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I've stumbled across
civic girder
not a fan of the wheel but ye, interior just needs some carpet cleaner and a vacuum
frank tundra
how many miles/kms?
frank tundra
miles?
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km
civic girder
Not bad tbh
frank tundra
i dont know the market value of these cars
but i would think thats a decent price
for something like this
as long as its mechanically sound
fathom socket
I didn't see any Mitsubishi other than colt
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and someone imported Mitsubishi MIRAGE!
frank tundra
or any 
civic girder
I mean, Mitsubishi has like 2 models at any given time
fathom socket
why would somebody import Mitsubishi MIRAGE
civic girder
el cheapo
frank tundra
maybe they just really like mitsubishi'
thats the only real reason i would see someone importing one
fathom socket
by that I mean this is like the least interesting car you could import
frank tundra
cause theirs cheaper options
civic girder
Isn't the mirage basically the colt
frank tundra
i wouldn't even consider canada that good on importing laws
its just an endless money pit
unless you have a good contact in it
civic girder
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
From what I can tell, importing to the US is ezpz. You just do it all online, and ofc make sure the car isn't some weird ass thing that can't get cleared by the port
stoic ledge
Isn't the mirage basically the colt
@civic girder no, the Colt was a class higher
civic girder
i see
stoic ledge
And the Mirage was officially sold everywhere in Europe @fathom socket , just called... The Space Star
Since it's so massive and spacious
They Mitsubishi Colt had a Mercedes sister: the Smart ForFour
And, there were hot-hatch versions of both
https://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1nydbmbriub.jpg
Colt Ralliart and Brabus ForFour
1.5 Turbo π
frank tundra
Theirs not really any exhausts that i see that are worth it for my c63
might just go muffler delete on it
south haven
stoic ledge
Who needs an exhaust
frank tundra
it sounds great with just the stock exhaust
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why do golf 2 comw with automatics
frank tundra
Its not quiet by any means
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i kinda like the stock exhaust
frank tundra
Yeah but i've heard other black editions and 507's with a custom exhaust
and it sounds way better
thin cosmos
"need for speed tokyo drift" - AtomicGaming
wheat hatch
stoic ledge
median egret
TIL - Dumping the clutch is the correct way to drive a Carrera GT.
@civic spoke the only way is losing control because you tried to modify it yourself and crashing into a tree, killing yourself and your famous friends and then have your pathetic family try to sue porsche for messing up yourself
civic spoke
Not having computers helping you out also helps you wrap yourself and the car around a tree.
And if I remember right about the Carrera GT. Then the clutch was either on or off. Didn't it become ruined if you tried to slip it?
stoic ledge
But it's FWD
fathom socket
But it's FWD
@stoic ledge maybe in reverse?
fair bronze
That's how they drift Corsas in the UK
civic spoke
You can still slide around in FWD. You just need to control how the car shifts its weight.
REALLY helps if you have snow.
median egret
And if I remember right about the Carrera GT. Then the clutch was either on or off. Didn't it become ruined if you tried to slip it?
@civic spoke
lol no it wasn't a digital clutch
it was when driving away you didn't have to throttle until clutch fully released
civic spoke
I mean that you had to keep it either on or off. And that slipping it ruined it.
median egret
Like driving away is clutch full in, 1st, slowly release clutch
it was a carbon ceramic clutch iirc
and that was kinda wacky
cuz new technology often causes problems
fathom socket
I like the aggressive looks :3
Oh yeah is anyone watching a race on motor trend ?
wheat hatch
What you mean, GT3 cars?
fathom socket
Yeah
wheat hatch
Yea Merc make some good racing cars
I have heard that the GT3 Mercedes is quite popular
Because of how, well, "easy" it is to drive
I think they mean it's quite easy to get used to
fathom socket
Sounds lovely lol having a huge engine Infront of you on a track
fathom socket
There are Lamborghini huracans out there too
wheat hatch
Yeah, GT3 is a nice mix of cars
Porshes, Lambos, Mercedes, Aston Martin, Ford, Corvette and etc.
A really fun class to watch in endurance racing
fathom socket
Yeah
I'm surprised they didn't crashed yet because that would hurt my feelings if the driver gets hurt and the car breaks
Well it's racing you die happy if you accidentally crashed or not but I'm sure they have new technology of safety
I feel sad that Audi made the last r8 with a manual transmission in 2015
viral matrix
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flint sable
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This BMW looks so different
It does not have those giant ugli kidneys
wheres the plate
civic spoke
Murrica. I guess.