cars

[civic girder]

Only Japan and good domestics

[dense shard]

You shouldn't have any issues.

[dawn python]

but maybe because its diesel

[frank tundra]

well it can end well

but its proven repairs are usually more expensive

my x5 was bought brand new

[fathom socket]

In my mind German cars are pretty damn greay

[frank tundra]

and broke down at 15k kms

[devout atlas]

something something

yeah

right

[frank tundra]

and the bmw dealership we bought it from

[devout atlas]

565s are cool and all

[frank tundra]

took about 5 months to repair it

[civic girder]

Only good German cars are 80s and 90s Mercedes diesels. Change my mind

[dense shard]

easy

[devout atlas]

but 572s are the real winners

[dense shard]

tick of death.

A lot of 90s Mercedes diesels had failed seals.

Basically killed the engine.

sorry, "black death"

[dawn python]

well, this is the glk deisel, and the only problem we had was a thermometer failing, but other than that has been amazing

[dense shard]

https://i.redd.it/oiuy3eor1ic21.jpg

[frank tundra]

if i was in the market for a luxury german sports car thats used, i'd probably go cls63

[dense shard]

long story short. The engine would shit itself to death.

[dawn python]

jeez, that looks horrible

[dense shard]

upside. If you know what to look for. You can buy a discount diesel and do a quick fix on it.

THAT engine is beyond saving.

Why don't people catch it? Plastic engine covers.

[delicate sinew]

Wait

That’s not sludge?

[dense shard]

It's baked on carbon.

[delicate sinew]

Jesus Christ

[dense shard]

A fuel injector seal starts leaking.

[dawn python]

i dont even know why they still put those on, its a pain in the ass for everyone to deal with

[dense shard]

Next thing you know your car shit itself to death.

[frank tundra]

it makes your engine bay

look

clean

[dense shard]

Engine covers? They suppress injector tick.

[fathom socket]

They also dampen noise

[dense shard]

And in a few cases manage heat.

[dawn python]

i wouldn't think by much, aren't they just thin sheets of plastic?

[dense shard]

Depends.

[dawn python]

at least in my car it is

[dense shard]

More than a few have sound deadening on the back.

your mileage may vary.

[dawn python]

that makes sense

[frank tundra]

Not the greatest photo by me

but the 6.4's dont have that issue 😄

not to a huge extent at least

[fathom socket]

Id if I'd ever call an engine cover an issue

[dawn python]

yeah, my honda just has a tiny plastic sheet over the top of the engine, and that is the whole engine cover

[frank tundra]

that 6.4 Cover snaps right off tho

[fathom socket]

It's just a cosmetic thing to make the car look better

[frank tundra]

takes a little bit of a presure

[dense shard]

My car has no cover.

[marsh owl]

water would pool in the cover of my 1fz

had to remove it

[frank tundra]

i mean then again

i would never touch my engine cause Chrysler would void the warranty like that

[dawn python]

true lmao

my car is too old and now discontinued for honda to care

[frank tundra]

ive heard people getting "Warranty check up calls" from Chrysler, for vehicles they havent owned for years

[dawn python]

lmao, thats rediculous

[dense shard]

those are probably scams.

[frank tundra]

no the dealerships do actually call you about them

[dense shard]

so scams

[frank tundra]

it was the legitimate dealership number when my friend got the call

he just hasnt owned his charger for about 3 years

[dense shard]

Why else would a dealer call you with an extended warranty offer?

[frank tundra]

Pretty sure the moparmemes guy on instagram recorded his call about his mopar 11 which he sold in 2014 in a call he got like 3 weeks ago

ive gotten a call about my hellcat but, rather not pick that one up knowing what would happen

[dawn python]

lmao, my dad keeps getting mail from the local chevy dealer asking him to trade in his truck because unlike every other used pickup in the area, it wouldn't have over 100k miles

[frank tundra]

could i get a translation 🤣

[stoic ledge]

Go for it

Not the MiTo -> Giulietta, no 8C Spider -> Giulietta

Worth it

[fathom socket]

Sounds like a cracking deal you go there

I'd go for it

lmao 8c to giulietta

isnt that a downgrade

since 8c is more valuable, better looking and faster?

[frank tundra]

im officially starting my 5.0 new edge build next week

the coyote is supposed to arrive this friday from calgary

[fathom socket]

aren't the Coyote engines built in Europe?

[frank tundra]

well this one is coming out of a wrecked 2019 gt

[fathom socket]

oh

wrecked 2019 model yikes

[frank tundra]

yeah got rearended by something

[fathom socket]

do a fullover as I wouldn't trust that engine to a guy who wrecked it in a year

did it

[frank tundra]

didnt look like it was his fault

the rear end was completely fucked

he didnt say what exactly hit him

but it was big

i had a mechanic i know up in calgary check the engine out

and he said it was mechanically great

considering it has 12k kms

atm im deciding between

[fathom socket]

Well I'd still do the small maintenance as the engine is out

[frank tundra]

just a normal 6 speed or a sequential

[fathom socket]

and its easy to access the parts

[frank tundra]

yeah gonna do everything i possibly can while its still not in the car

still have to rebuild my axles

get all the new suspension

cause im throwing around 500hp at a car that came with 260 stock

but from what i've read online

if youre swapping a coyote into any older mustang, new edge is the best platform

[fathom socket]

maserati hybrid be like

[dense shard]

The 5.0s are built in Canada, pretty sure.

SN95... doesn't really matter.

They're still Fox Platforms.

Should be fun either way.

[fathom socket]

also ew edge

dont like suvs

[dense shard]

no.

This was the refresh of the first SN-95 Mustang.

The early 2000s one to be exact.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/1999-04_Ford_Mustang_coupe.jpg

[civic girder]

I dislike the SN95 with a burning passion

Why? Idk

[fathom socket]

hmmm

should I import the mitsubishi mirage?

[stoic ledge]

Wot

Why

[tender tusk]

...Why would you want to import a mirage?

Seems like a lot of effort for a fairly lackluster car

[flint sable]

We have one SN95

It’s cool tho

[tender tusk]

I've always thought that the SN95 has tires that are a bit too thin
Like if the tires were a bit thicker, they wouldn't look as awkward from a side angle

[fathom socket]

Wait a second

Can someone tell me what car it is?

[frank tundra]

@tender tusk yup that is the same complaint i had about my tires when i first got my sn95

got way thicker tires in the back

fixed that issue

[tender tusk]

@fathom socket I used Google image search and it appears to be an Isuzu Trooper 4x4

[fathom socket]

Thanks

[stoic ledge]

@dense shard have you seen the new Toyota logo?

wow

[dense shard]

uhhhh

It's white and 2D?

... Looks better than BMW and Nissan.

[stoic ledge]

Yes

BMW one is ugly imho

Nissan.. not so bad

Looks ok when on a car

https://i.insider.com/5de36336fd9db24e101a2183?width=1100&format=jpeg&auto=webp

[dense shard]

true

[stoic ledge]

Looks like many brands are doing the exact same

White and 2D

[dense shard]

That is the 2020 thing.

Even Google has the flat color thing going for Android.

Microsoft has the tile thing... same for apple.

Sometimes it works, sometimes it's BMW.

hah

Regular Car Reviews got their hands on a C8 Vette before other outlets have.

[stoic ledge]

That is the 2020 thing.
Yeah I noticed... Not sure I like it

Both the logo's and 2020

[fathom socket]

BMW logo now makes me sick

I've complained this a million times already but I can't for the love of my live differentiate BMWs from each other.

I genuinely can't tell them apart

Also the huge kidney grills in some of their cars make me sick

[stoic ledge]

Bwah they're not that hard to keep apart? Every models looks quite different imho

Audi is way worse

[fathom socket]

Yes I can tell apart the SUVs from the normal car line

And i3 and i8 from other cars

But that's it

2 series, 3 series, 4 series, 5 series all look the same to me

Idk if they still make 6 and 7

But if they do, I doubt I could tell them apart

[civic girder]

I look at any german car, they all look the same

obv I can tell brands apart, but all models within a brand just blend together imo

but when I look at Japanese and American cars, I can (usually) instantly recognize the model by appearance

Except Nissans, I can't tell some of them apart, especially older ones

[stoic ledge]

All Mazda's all look the same tho 🤔

[civic girder]

I can see that

but I am enough of a Mazda fanboye to tell them apart

[stoic ledge]

I just know all cars, so it's not that hard for me

👀 that's not a steep hill

[charred depot]

I know heh

[stoic ledge]

And that's like 117km/h 👀

And decreasing

[charred depot]

Sometimes have to drop down to fourth but it is quite obnoxious sounding

[stoic ledge]

OOF

[charred depot]

If I got overtaken by my car in fourth gear at 70mph id be laughing at all the noise it was making and how little it was going

The car im overtaking is pretty much the same as the car im driving

[stoic ledge]

Even I can beat that

[charred depot]

:^| Ive only got 70 odd horsepower before you account for drivetrain loss

[stoic ledge]

I have a whopping 83 👀

[civic girder]

I probs have around 83 at the wheels lmao

[charred depot]

cars 930KG

[stoic ledge]

83 at the crank, so even less at the wheels

And 1060kg 👀

[civic girder]

The Prius is probs like 90 at the wheels, but has no incentive to move

[indigo coral]

HEY LOOK

I'm back

[civic girder]

unlike the RX-7, which has lots of incentive to move, but lacks the power to seem like its moving

[indigo coral]

I stg discord loves to break shit

[stoic ledge]

Hi back, I'm MK

What was the problem?

[indigo coral]

Apparently Discord messed up my account

[stoic ledge]

Nice

[indigo coral]

was stuck on phone verification (despite being phone verified)

So it bugged out

[stoic ledge]

Nice

[civic girder]

👌

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

Prius drivetrain to RX7 swap?

[civic girder]

The RX-7 doesn't need to get slower

[charred depot]

that mpg though

[civic girder]

But R O T A R Y P O W E R

[stoic ledge]

Hybrid rotory when

[crimson plover]

A hybrid rotary would be really effecient

[civic girder]

A rotary with laser ignition would be really efficient

[crimson plover]

rotary motors make little torque but like high RPM

all day long

[indigo coral]

laser ignition?

[civic girder]

yes

[indigo coral]

that's a thing?

[civic girder]

Yep.

[indigo coral]

[civic girder]

And its how you fix rotary emissions

[crimson plover]

does it just brun all the excess hydrocarbons?

with a freaking laser?

[civic girder]

Laser ignition is more precise

and more powerful than spark

so you get stronger ignition and a cleaner better timed burn

[crimson plover]

There is only one hybrid I would ever buy...

[civic girder]

and that is?

[crimson plover]

https://tenor.com/view/train-diesel-choo-choo-tracks-gif-15876683

[civic girder]

🤔

[crimson plover]

which technically not a hybrid

but it is when you think about it

[indigo coral]

id buy a 918 Spyder if i was filthy rich

[crimson plover]

well think about it

[civic girder]

Why not best daily driver

[crimson plover]

with a train

the cost of moving stuff per ton would be stupid cheap

[indigo coral]

prius slow tho eastman

[civic girder]

But Porsche is overrated

[indigo coral]

tru

[civic girder]

I have rotary for speed

[crimson plover]

a train is a giant diesel like prius lol

except you can haul everything behind it

[civic girder]

https://streamable.com/d90op2

[indigo coral]

ngl i wish they made a 3.3t G70 with hybrid assistance but there's no space for that in such a smol car

[civic girder]

s p e e d

[indigo coral]

the trunk is already teeny in the G70

[civic girder]

then don't have a trunk, lol

make it a hatchback instead

[crimson plover]

well i would take less weight over a hybrid

[civic girder]

but weight distribution

big battery in the back helps equal out the weight of engine up front

[indigo coral]

wish i lived in an area that a rwd car would be functional

[crimson plover]

but once you drain the juice outa that battery its dead weight

[indigo coral]

but you can't drive a rwd car in the rain so it would have to be a summer car only

[civic girder]

that's why you don't engineer the system poorly lol

[indigo coral]

awd g70 it is

[crimson plover]

many hybrid batteries can't but give a little assistance for a few miles at most

[civic girder]

a proper hybrid system will maximize the electric powertrain without draining all of the power

[crimson plover]

also its not hard to drive a RWD car in the rain

[civic girder]

those are plug-in hybrids

[crimson plover]

lol

[indigo coral]

its not remotely safe

[civic girder]

a proper hybrid like the Prius is consistently combining both electric and ice

and it is safe @indigo coral , just learn how to drive

[crimson plover]

make sure you have decent tires and its just fine

[indigo coral]

I mean my car has gotten floaty sometimes and it's good awd + decent tires

so idk

[crimson plover]

don't be a mexican with bald tires

[civic girder]

If you are crashing and spinning out in the rain on good tires, you are doing something wrong

[indigo coral]

I wouldn't feel safe driving a rwd car in anything besides perfectly dry concrete

[crimson plover]

and don't drive faster than conditions are safe

[civic girder]

^

rain makes driving any car more difficult

account for conditions and limitations of the vehicle

[indigo coral]

maybe i'm just a bad driver but the back end of my car got kinda floaty on the highway while it was raining a couple times

[crimson plover]

the fact that you have a car being floaty means you are driving it too hard in the first place

[indigo coral]

I couldn't go any slower so /shrug

I was already going way slower than traffic in the slower lane

[crimson plover]

you can't be driving 70 MPH in a downpour

[indigo coral]

I was going 45

[crimson plover]

and?

[indigo coral]

70mph isn't legal here

[civic girder]

The only times I've slid in the RX-7 was before I knew its limits. And ofc, only in rain. It has gripppp for days on dry pavement

[crimson plover]

Heck, i can drive RWD on snow and ice and be fine

[indigo coral]

good for you

[civic girder]

Yea, I drove the RX-7 in a blizzard lmao

[indigo coral]

I guess i'm just an awful driver then /shrug

[crimson plover]

i drove my 5spd toyota corolla in a blizzard

it worked fine

just fine

[civic girder]

There was easily a few inches of snow on that highway

I was going like 35mph

[crimson plover]

with no traction control system and no ABS

[civic girder]

yep

[indigo coral]

have fun with that i guess

maybe I am just a shitty driver but idk what else I can do, walk?

we ain't got public transport here

[crimson plover]

get a 4 banger?

[civic girder]

ABS just makes slowing down fast easy
You don't need ABS to slow down fast safely, its just harder

[indigo coral]

why would i get a '4 banger'

my car is already slow af

[civic girder]

it would weigh less and have better gearing?

[crimson plover]

and don't get one with an auto

lol

[indigo coral]

I refuse to buy a manual car

1. I can't drive stick and 2. there's too many hills here

and 3. I don't trust myself enough to not screw it up

[crimson plover]

bruh hills are easy

[civic girder]

^

[crimson plover]

practice

[civic girder]

use handbrake as a crutch if you need to

[indigo coral]

no point in wasting money on a manual car that I can't drive

[civic girder]

bruh

[indigo coral]

i tried driving my grandpa's old manual truck and it didn't go well

so

that is the end of that

[civic girder]

you can drive it, you just refuse to learn

[crimson plover]

see automatics breed bad drivers as they refuse to learn

[civic girder]

If I had your extreme lack of motivation, I would have given up and sold the RX-7 as soon as I stalled it and killed the fuel pump on my first drive

[indigo coral]

I don't see why an automatic transmission is sooo terrible. if you like manual have fun with that i guess but it doesnt mean automatics are bad

[crimson plover]

well there is so much drivetrain loss that they feel sluggish and are like driving a fat guy around.

[civic girder]

I mean, I'm fine with automatics and people who don't want to drive manual. What I hate is when people don't follow traffic laws and when people refuse to even try or learn something else because they think they fucked it up or were traumatized by something

[indigo coral]

even if my car was a manual it would be like driving a fat guy around, its 3700 pounds with barely any power

[crimson plover]

plus a bad computer tune only focused on fuel economy makes them shift at all the wrong times.

[civic girder]

Its not usually the computer

[crimson plover]

manual transmissions are lighter also

[civic girder]

the trans is just setup poorly

[indigo coral]

they should have put the LS powertrain in my car instead of ES

[crimson plover]

I have seen some crappy tunes on some autos

[civic girder]

I mean, most cars have garbage tunes from the factory

[indigo coral]

I mean my car was 0$ and has only been a couple hundred $ in work over the last 2 years and 30k miles so /shrug

y'all think its a bad car but its been pretty reliable

[civic girder]

and most autos are garbage because the manufacturers don't care

You can make a good auto, with effort

[indigo coral]

ZF-8HP

good auto

[crimson plover]

when i upgraded to my camry from my corrolla, it had 234k miles on my 'new car'

still runs great

[indigo coral]

I had to fix front brakes

and do valve cover gaskets

(and did spark plugs while I was in there)

[crimson plover]

with the 4 banger i can still do 110 lol

[civic girder]

but why bother when you can put 4 gears with gearing from the 70s

money saved

[indigo coral]

the 2007 has decent auto

[crimson plover]

i was passing a semi and I just kept going

[indigo coral]

idk if i'll buy it at some point or not

[civic girder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438484168373043200/734881525803515974/unknown.png

[indigo coral]

ew

[crimson plover]

my next means of transportation will likely be a mid 80's Toyota hilux with a 4 banger diesel

ill have to import it

[civic girder]

the old diesel Hilux are literally indestructible

[crimson plover]

i know

anyone who knows anything about a hilux

[indigo coral]

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/mob/d/seattle-iphone-11/7161267707.html

this ad is disgusting - in relation to your post up there

[crimson plover]

its a tank

[civic girder]

but the column shifter is a bit of a nightmare on the manual ones

[indigo coral]

My next car will either be another RX if my current one has a big problem or a G70 if I can afford it by that point

[civic girder]

my next car will be an AWD Previa

[crimson plover]

well the ones i am lookin at do not have a tree shifter

[civic girder]

good

[crimson plover]

so

[indigo coral]

I'd get a 2012 RX450h if I could find a good deal on one

reliable & actually kind of fast

and decent mpg

[civic girder]

suv
fast
decent mpg

[indigo coral]

32mpg city

[crimson plover]

then i can put a lift on it and paint it safety yellow

your issue is driving too fast

[civic girder]

that's worse mpg than my brother's Lexus HS250h

[crimson plover]

so you aint gunna get 32

[indigo coral]

I don't drive that fast.....

I don't speed

I drive the speed limit

and I get 19mpg rn

[civic girder]

actually, my mom's van gets better mpg than that

[indigo coral]

on my RX

which is about par for what it should be

[crimson plover]

my dad got a new half ton duramax inline 6

got 18mpg while towing

a 4000 pound trailer

[indigo coral]

19/22 is what's expected for my car

[civic girder]

I get way above EPA estimates on both my cars

[indigo coral]

So 19 city-ish is appropriate

especially considering its ancient

[civic girder]

I'm getting 22 mpg combined average on the RX-7

I should do a highway trip sometime just to see

[indigo coral]

but no i don't drive fast

[crimson plover]

im getting about 36 with my camry

typo lol

[civic girder]

I get about 48.7mpg combined average in the Prius

[crimson plover]

thats a prius

lol

[civic girder]

Yea I know, I'm just saying

[indigo coral]

I very rarely exceed 70, only when I passed someone briefly, just generally driving 5 over is the absolute max I'll do

so no, I don't drive too fast

[civic girder]

the RX-7 loves cruising at 70

[crimson plover]

so what kinda tires are you using to make a RWD car a killer?

[indigo coral]

i don't have a rwd car rn, I have an awd car

[civic girder]

I have el cheapo tires, and I have no idea what he means by "not safe"

[indigo coral]

my car is happiest cruising around 60mph so that works well for me

because speedlmiit is 60 here

[crimson plover]

my camry does 80 cruising fine in 6th.

[indigo coral]

on the highway

[civic girder]

I mean, the RX-7 will cruise at pretty much any speed in any gear

but I get best mpg at around 70 and 55

[indigo coral]

i have okay tires on my car but they need replacing

starting to get old

[crimson plover]

if i went down to 70 i could prob get pretty good MPG but ehh

[indigo coral]

not treadwear wise but the rubber is ageing

[civic girder]

both my cars need a tire rotation. The Prius needs one desperately

[indigo coral]

idk what i'll replace them with, they don't make my current tires anymore for my size unfortunately

[civic girder]

I think the tires on the Prius have been in that config for......3 years?

[crimson plover]

my camry has one bum tire with a slow leak

i took it out and dunked it on soapy water and could not see anything

[indigo coral]

I have Defender LTX right now, but they starting to get old

I'll go take a picture in a little bit

Not 100% sure how long they've been on the car

[crimson plover]

so in the meantime i just fill it up every 2 weeks lol

[civic girder]

The Prius is on generic Michelens, I could get better mpg with an eco tire. The RX-7 is on some generic all season tread, iirc they are some euro brand tire and extremely cheap

[crimson plover]

i just use some decent offbrands and they are fine

[indigo coral]

Not sure what I'll end up buying

[civic girder]

The tires I put on the RX-7 were like $40 a tire

[crimson plover]

i wear the tires out before they age out and i geet good millage outa them

same

i get cheap tires

like the size is so generic

[civic girder]

185/75R13 baby

[crimson plover]

it just works

i have a mounting and balancing machine

[civic girder]

Look at these baby wheels, s smol

[indigo coral]

pic

sorry they dirty bc I live on a dirt road lol

[crimson plover]

i got so sick of waiting at tire shops

its cheaper to do it yourself

after like 15 tire changes

esp if you can get equipment used

so i do tire mounts as a side gig

[indigo coral]

not sure where the date code is on those tires so idk how old they are lol

[stoic ledge]

Usually 4 digits in an oval

[dense shard]

I wouldn't recommend off brand tires.

Last time I got the budget brands I spent 300 dollars replacing a control arm because I slid into a curb in the rain.

[stoic ledge]

I'm getting Hankook's after the summer

Ventus Prime 3, which are very good tires performing just as well as Michelin or Continental, just not as expensive

I won't skim on safety and/or handling, but I don't like overpaying either

[fathom socket]

hankook are supposed to supply f1 after Pirelli i think

or at least theyre bidding for it

[dense shard]

wow, Linus went on a rant against Tesla.

and Intel.

[indigo coral]

Yep

Because they both are arseholes

[dense shard]

Very bold move Linus.

Careful or the uhhh... what did Rich call them?

The Muskateers will report your video. lol

[indigo coral]

LOL

yeah

[civic girder]

I need to start downshifting when I drive past Teslas

[carmine summit]

I do stuff like that near Teslas

Downshift, make pops and bangs, etc

[dense shard]

I've mostly stopped noticing them.

[frank tundra]

every model 3 i see tries to race me

but they almost always have an N on the back of their car too

[devout atlas]

time to get a 3000 hp big block to style on those teslas

put that big block in a vauxhall victor

[dense shard]

At the end of the day.

None of them are an Opel. @stoic ledge

[civic spoke]

What the...

What is a 350 Hertz doing here in Sweden?

[devout atlas]

murica

befriend the owner

[civic spoke]

A normal Mustang, I get. But the Hertz exclusive version?

[devout atlas]

befriend

the owner

[civic spoke]

Looks like it was parked there over night because of the dew.

Maybe the guy working at Circle K that owns it?

[devout atlas]

mhmm

[devout atlas]

god bless murica

[civic spoke]

I actually don't remember if the 350H was branded as such anywhere on the car.

So you just have to know what it is.

[viscid anvil]

I'd rather get gently used real tires than new offbrands

in fact i've done that and never had a problem

like 8/32 tread Michelins

[civic spoke]

Same. There is extra security with having tires from a premium brand.

[frank tundra]

I always go pirelli for all my cars

[devout atlas]

of course

[civic spoke]

Michelin for me. At least summers

[winter viper]

Running nokian winter tyres all year
Driving a lot offroad

[stoic ledge]

Winter tyres all year

[winter viper]

Works fine for me .. Dont drive fast

[winter viper]

@stoic ledge I live in Denmark .. We have like 2-3 weeks of summer with 25 celcius .. Maby 30 if its really really hot
Rst of summer is like 15-20 celcius and many rainy days
Winter you never know .. But can be really cold

I drive a lot off road and never fast (if i wanna go fast ill take my 2 wheeler)
Need tyres with nice grip

[stoic ledge]

Ah well, the thing is, even when like 10°C or above, when you have to brake hard the soft compound will be rubbish

Although I get it, I drive all year round on summer tires

[median egret]

hm

@stoic ledge wot u drive

[stoic ledge]

Corsa D

[devout atlas]

needs a 572 cubic inch chevy v8

[stoic ledge]

Yes LS Swap it

[devout atlas]

no

mk

i am dissapointed

ls is smol block

572 cubic inch = 9.4L

:p

[stoic ledge]

That will definitely fit

[devout atlas]

https://www.chevrolet.com/performance-parts/crate-engines/big-block/zz-572-720-r

722 hp

N/A

*727

[stoic ledge]

[devout atlas]

buy it for your corsa

0-60, 0.5 seconds

[fathom socket]

i own a $2000 car

my dad*

[devout atlas]

2000 dollars?

yeah, there's plenty

[fathom socket]

Question

What's so limited about jeep patriot

[stoic ledge]

0-60, 0.5 seconds
@devout atlas ofcourse, it will also have instant traction

What's so limited about jeep patriot
@fathom socket the life expectancy

[devout atlas]

@devout atlas ofcourse, it will also have instant traction
@stoic ledge in fact, it's a teleportation device. Instantaneous transport

[stoic ledge]

[civic spoke]

But then it doesn't physically do any speed.

[devout atlas]

But then it doesn't physically do any speed.
@civic spoke it has a peasant mode, 0-60 in 1s

wasn't there some guy with a vauxhall victor that does 0-60 in 1s?

[civic spoke]

But if it's teleportation. Then it is no speed.

[devout atlas]

it does not teleport

in peasant mode

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/9eH837Fh1Oo

0-60 mph is pretty much only possible with non-street tires and on prepped surface.

[devout atlas]

ah

too bad it's not the 572 cu in

9.4L

:/

/s

[stoic ledge]

I can beat that

[devout atlas]

in that corsa?

yeah m8

use your latent Chav™️ powers

to destroy all foes

[fathom socket]

0-60 mph is pretty much only possible with non-street tires and on prepped surface.
@civic spoke
Or using maneuvering Thrusters of rockets as boosters with compressed air like Tesla

[delicate sinew]

Y’all got any station wagons to show me

[fathom socket]

that ferrari actually doesnt look terrible

[civic spoke]

It's easy to tell that the bike belongs to my boss.

Zoom in on the silver transmission cover.

[dapper cloak]

https://youtu.be/GxHJ_qh1W_o?t=11

[fathom socket]

[stoic ledge]

[devout atlas]

is it a 572 cubic inch big block though?

[stoic ledge]

Yesn't

[devout atlas]

my replies are limited

it's either a panther body

or a big block

because I know nothing else

god bless murica

[flint sable]

Mmmm

I love

[median egret]

@stoic ledge what region you

[stoic ledge]

@stoic ledge what region you
@median egret Limburg

[delicate sinew]

@civic spoke @turbid onyx

[viscid anvil]

@fathom socket

You like my daily?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCjhCqXnlls/

geospatial_automotive

Ancient daily #lexus #es300 #xv20 #1mz #windom

Instagram

[civic spoke]

Is that Matt Farah's million mile Lexus? /s

[dense shard]

fancy Camry :p

Nice car.

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/y-9Wr4G2Zas

[civic girder]

The difference is that they're both overdone, too mainstream, and not something cooler

JZs are nice motors, but it falls into the bin alongside RBs, LS, and other popular motors.

Everyone and their dog rants and raves about them

[dense shard]

They ended up a popular choice for modding because they are so easy and robust.

[civic girder]

Yea, and unfortunately became mainstream

[dense shard]

The LS is a hotter cam away from too much power.

Stock JZs were a set of headbolts away from performance.

And RBs... lol never made it to the US.

But we also have the EJ25 and 4G63.

I guess... dunno the Modular/Coyote... maybe?

[civic girder]

I have an extreme dislike of mainstream shit

Partially because my opinions on what most people do with such mainstream things

stance, rice, etc

I like to avoid that shit, would rather not associate myself with those kinds of things

[dense shard]

I'm not gonna hate.

Unless it's loud exhaust... since that does kinda affect me.

[civic girder]

Yea, I don't really care what people do. Its their money, their car

But when people ask me if I'm going to stance or tell me I should do 'x' because its what everyone does with y, then I'd rather go with something where no one will tell me what I should or bat an eye when I tell them my plans

Part of the reason I ended up with a rotary

first gen RX-7s are not really talked about, and everyone seems to avoid rotaries like the plague

No one tells me to do shit to my car, besides the occasional "put a turbo on it" and the rotary haters that tell me to LS swap

[dense shard]

Might as well LS swap a Z31 300ZX.

It would make more sense. Those V6s weren't great by any standard... even then.

[civic girder]

I don't see Z31s talked about either

I like the sound of the VG30

[dense shard]

Nissan fans are a small, but dedicated bunch.

[civic girder]

but I am contemplating rotary or L24 swap because as you said, those motors weren't all that great

[dense shard]

Still it only made about 140 horsepower in the 300ZX... 10 fewer than the Maxima.

[civic girder]

wot?

I thought the na Z31s made 165, but the turbos made 200?

[dense shard]

I think I got the numbers off, but the base engine made about 10 fewer horsepower than the Maxima.

That's all I really remember.

[civic girder]

I'd believe it

but tbh, I don't really care

as long as it doesn't break, sounds good, and picks up decently, then I'll be satisfied

only real fear I have with getting a Z31 is that the motor won't pick up good enough for me

But that's where an L24 or a rotary come in. I still like the chassis

[dense shard]

At this point. I'm more than happy with my Corolla. My next car will more than likely be a utility junker.

[civic girder]

Yea, I'm pleased with what I have now as well. Just want to go through with my dumb, opposite of mainstream, ideas

Z31 and FB for cruising. Prius for daily driver. Previa for utility and winter duty. Truck to rotary swap for fun utility, fun project for learning things, and because I can.

[dense shard]

Corolla and a truck or SUV is in my plans.

[civic girder]

👌

[dense shard]

Assuming I get a job this year.

[civic girder]

oof

I just started my job last week. If things go well, I should be close to getting a house by this time next year.

And then I can get a Previa, Z31, a truck, and start collecting parts for all my cars

[dense shard]

I could settle for a van tbh.

Provided it'll be 4wd or AWD.

[civic girder]

Yea. I like vans

getting Previa because I like its styling over modern ones

and mid engine for cool points

[dense shard]

Pain to work on, but I wouldn't mind it.

[civic girder]

Yea, the Prius is already a pain in of itself

oh, speaking of

I think I know why it makes knocking sounds

[dense shard]

oh?

[civic girder]

It may be low fuel pressure and/or a bad injector

[dense shard]

interesting.

[civic girder]

I tried running the engine on 3 cylinders (unplug one injector), and when I gave it gas it ran really smoothly and I didn't hear the knock

It did that every time, even when I alternated which injector was unplugged

[dense shard]

at least an injector won't shatter when you try to replace it.

[civic girder]

lmao, true

I'm also thinking of doing a compression test and checking the plugs as well, just to get a status update on its health

The ceramic is in there for sure, but the shop said its stuck to the cylinder head. Another reason the knock is likely something else

[dense shard]

I wanna do a cross country trip.

I want to see what kind of fuel economy I can get.

[civic girder]

I know the Prius has gone from Ohio to Oklahoma and vice versa numerous times

Car has been taken care off too much for there to be an actual mechanical issue. Despite my fuck up.

its gotta be coincidental fuel issues or something

[dense shard]

Took me a year, but hit 6500 miles.

[viscid anvil]

JZs have become prohibitively expensive

[dense shard]

they've been out of production for something like 20 years.

[static canopy]

What's poppin

[dense shard]

not much... playing my daily gacha

[devout atlas]

smh

not a big block

[fathom socket]

Air-cooled porsches are boring

Tey are more common than new ones over here

[carmine summit]

air-cooled Porsches are not boring, they're way more fun than new Porsches

driving an air-cooled Porsche is like nothing else

I guess it's kind of hard to understand what makes them so special if you've never actually had the chance to drive one

it's just such a raw driving experience

[devout atlas]

it's just such a raw driving experience
@carmine summit I've driven children's toy carts too. I know

[civic girder]

I bet air cooled Porsches are fun and cool

But they're not rotaries

Nothing beats the exileration of the top end of a rotary. The power just builds and builds and you hear it scream with a visceral rasp, like the sound of a massive swarm of bees large enough to block out the sun

[fathom socket]

yeah

but they are so common

[civic girder]

Not here lmao

I've never seen one in person

Even seeing a modern Porsche is rare, even slightly older and cheaper models from the late 90s/early 2000s

[carmine summit]

I see Porsches once in a while

New and old

I see a 1974 914 every day because my dad has one

[devout atlas]

But they're not rotaries
@civic girder nor are they powered by 572 cubic inch chevy big blocks

ahem

[civic girder]

Yea, but rotary > big block

[fathom socket]

I've never seen any rotatory engine car

[devout atlas]

https://media.tenor.com/images/994a26837bc3e87de9104b77bb6f2d1d/tenor.gif

@civic girder

[wheat hatch]

[devout atlas]

hi, MK

why change name?

[wheat hatch]

Fidget spinner engine vs Big chungus engine

Not MK

@stoic ledge

[devout atlas]

spinning dorito < glorious beer barrel engine

[wheat hatch]

There is MK

[stoic ledge]

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

[devout atlas]

hi MK

[stoic ledge]

Hi there

[devout atlas]

big blocc > dorito

[stoic ledge]

Ecotec > All

[devout atlas]

if you disagree, you're dead

you get to have 'coffee' with me

[stoic ledge]

I'm not dead, I'm MK

[devout atlas]

where you just happen to fall off a cliff

I'm not dead, I'm MK
@stoic ledge hi, I'm not dead, I'm MK, I'm dad!

[stoic ledge]

OOF

[wheat hatch]

Dorito all the way

Spins to oblivion

[devout atlas]

Dorito all the way
@wheat hatch you have chosen death, then

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

You mess with Baboon, you mess with me

[devout atlas]

mk

i'll take a cummin's diesel truck

and ram you

with your corsa

off the highway

into the ocean

[stoic ledge]

Joke's on you, I have a dashcam

[devout atlas]

[stoic ledge]

I'll sue you

[devout atlas]

Joke's on you, I have a dashcam
@stoic ledge it better be a waterproof dashcam

[stoic ledge]

My Corsa is so light, it'll float

[wheat hatch]

Lmao

[devout atlas]

My Corsa is so light, it'll float
@stoic ledge but you aren't

[wheat hatch]

OOF

[devout atlas]

[stoic ledge]

OOF

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

[wheat hatch]

We about to go to gulag for not liking the big chungus engine

[devout atlas]

what's not to like in a 9.4 liter big block?

the world's fastest road car runs on it

()w()

the red victors

[wheat hatch]

Matter of taste

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[devout atlas]

not taste, m8

d e a t h

[wheat hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/viralhog-gun-fire-murica-flag-america-gif-12183553

[devout atlas]

if I'm the only one alive, the 572 cu in. engine will be the most loved engine in the world

[wheat hatch]

9.4L of pure freedom

[devout atlas]

yes

[wheat hatch]

[devout atlas]

f r e e d o m

I'll ram you into the ocean using my freedomMobile1945™️

[stoic ledge]

Massive engine in the front... Understeers in to wall

[devout atlas]

nah

we want oversteer

it's correct wheel drive, after all

[stoic ledge]

Heavy front can still make you understeer

[devout atlas]

that doesn't really matter when your car has just ploughed through 2 rabbits, 5 bears, and a family of 4

[dense shard]

what

Just remember.

Cadillac made an 8.0 liter engine in the 70s.

It made less horsepower than a modern day Civic Si.

Which has a 1.5T... or hell go back to generations and it still had a NA 2.0.

[devout atlas]

yes yes

we know

most 70s and 80s cars were underpowered

after the arab oil crisis

dark times

the slant 6es were hideous

[dense shard]

This wasn't an inline 6.

This was a big whopping V8. And despite the embargo, Cadillac couldn't mange more than a few horsepower per liter.

[devout atlas]

i know

[dense shard]

Because the American approach to emissions was, "let's just choke it off"

Petty compliance that only compounded an industry's shortfalls and led to the rise of the Japanese.

[devout atlas]

yes

bring the 60s back

[dense shard]

So then they turned to sketchier means of competition... tariffs and import quotas. And so the Japanese went around the quotas and tariffs by building factories in the US.

[devout atlas]

also

quick question

[dense shard]

In which workers were paid more, the products were better, and the products were made locally.

[devout atlas]

how many buicks are there

currently

[dense shard]

At least 4 crossovers.

[devout atlas]

there's only the regal insignia right?

oh

yeah

all opels/vauxhalls

[dense shard]

You have the China built Enclave.

The Ecosport competitor, Encore.

oh sorry... no Enclave but Envision.

Or maybe they're both Chinese built.

[devout atlas]

not a real buick

[dense shard]

Real Buick is now Chinese.

[devout atlas]

we need buicks with 10 gallons to the mile back

[dense shard]

Has been since 2010.

[devout atlas]

QQ

let us shed a tear for the murican auto industry

[dense shard]

You say that, but you wouldn't buy a car that gets fuel economy worse than a heavy duty truck.

why?

Everything that has happened has been an outcome of their own stupidity.

[devout atlas]

it may have been lecherous and afraid of change

but it was something, gahddamnit

[dense shard]

So is the trash bin in the kitchen that hasn't been emptied in a week.

[devout atlas]

[dense shard]

I can buy a Toyota today which is more American than any American brand.

Same for Honda.

[devout atlas]

time to buy a 60s muscle car

and be impaled by the steering rack

[dense shard]

I wouldn't mind a Challenger.

or a GTO.

[devout atlas]

I wouldn't mid the old cudas

[dense shard]

Buick has 5 cars.

2 of which are the Regal.

[dense shard]

Arguably a muscle car there.

[devout atlas]

that glass

[dense shard]

Predates the muscle car era by a bit.

[devout atlas]

yep

[dense shard]

Looks wonderful.

[devout atlas]

it's a nice cruiser

yep

I wouldn't mind a gt car like this

hell, I wouldn't mind the new thunderbird too

[dense shard]

That was just a boomer cruiser tho.

[devout atlas]

this off-white looks pog

That was just a boomer cruiser tho.
@dense shard yeah, absolutely

underpowered boomer cruiser

but it looks beautiful

that wasteful, extravagant shape

[dense shard]

Was it underpowered?

What was it?

[devout atlas]

Was it underpowered?
@dense shard it had that early 2000s jag v8

[dense shard]

Ford built a 1950 transplant without a follow up.

[devout atlas]

3.8 jag

[dense shard]

Nevermind the partsbin usage was atrocious.

[devout atlas]

it was

but

the interior with the colored inserts looks quite okay

[dense shard]

That was the issue.

[dense shard]

The center stack was apparently identical to the LS.

[devout atlas]

yep

[dense shard]

Early 2000s Ford interiors were... horrible.

[devout atlas]

it's a lincoln ls

[dense shard]

Not as bad as the 90s.

[devout atlas]

but pretty

[dense shard]

I'm not sure I agree.

[devout atlas]

Not as bad as the 90s.
@dense shard nothing can match 90s gm in the yuck-factor

[dense shard]

That's a low bar too clear.

[devout atlas]

XD

[dense shard]

Because both fell short of Toyota and ... literally anyone else.

[devout atlas]

true

but then again

[dense shard]

All 90s interiors were blah. And Ford/GM/Chrysler stood out from even that.

[devout atlas]

the 2002 thunderbird

really was never supposed to sell a lot

it's a nostalgia car

for boomers

[dense shard]

Not even for boomers.

[devout atlas]

the yellow interior is the prettiest imo

[dense shard]

This was aimed at a generation that was dying out.

[devout atlas]

true

[dense shard]

literally.

[devout atlas]

the t-bird was 50s

so that even predates teh boomers

[dense shard]

Maybe a few boomers bought it because of dad driving them around while drinking nostalgia?

[devout atlas]

*drinking and yelling at mom

[dense shard]

It was only a 2 door at first.

[devout atlas]

yep

[dense shard]

So I imagine father was trying to get away from mom.

[devout atlas]

true

but, think about

it

[fair bronze]

What did I walk into

[devout atlas]

won't you like cruising in this piece of nostalgia?

it looks fun

[fair bronze]

Strangely I kinda like it

[devout atlas]

i like it too

[devout atlas]

no

that back

mhmm

[devout atlas]

QQ

[fathom socket]

yet another car with a porthole window

clearly design trends are 100% heading this wauy

[civic spoke]

I'm got a question for you guys.

What car is this?

[devout atlas]

clearly design trends are 100% heading this wauy
@fathom socket it's from 2002

()w()

[fathom socket]

its a long time trend what can i say

looks like a testarossa to me

bmw adopted it

[devout atlas]

it's pure murica

[stoic ledge]

What car is this?
@civic spoke looks like a Plymouth Savoy to me

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2001-cadillac-catera-2/

[carmine summit]

@civic spoke my guess would be a late 50s Cadillac or something similar

57 ish

Now that I think about it, it probably isn't

[devout atlas]

'56 eldorado seville

imo

[dense shard]

Looks like a Bel Air

[stoic ledge]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a7/75/6b/a7756bd6aa5c97c2f54fe50143682d5c.jpg

Quite sure it's a Savoy

[dense shard]

All cars from that era look the same to me.

Fins, weird pointless white trim on the lower end, wheel coverings, and weird wrap around windshields.

[fathom socket]

side by side it looks the same

the proportions work

[dense shard]

People bitch about new cars looking the same... ignore the 50s and 60s... and 70s.

[fathom socket]

indicator

everyone knows indicators make that noise when you turn right

[charred depot]

bruh they dont go pop and shake the car

you clownin

[dense shard]

Could be half shaft.

Hard to tell with only 2 seconds.

CV joint could be on it's way out, or could be suspension issues.

[charred depot]

it felt normal after that and hasnt happened again

[fathom socket]

do i have to put an /s here

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[charred depot]

no but you can get a license to clown for £5.99, paypal me

[fathom socket]

nah ill just say what i like for free thx

[stoic ledge]

That's the sound of you driving over a kid on a bicycle

[fathom socket]

^

or a tiny ferret on a tiny bike

[charred depot]

there was a cyclist approaching but he kindly chose to go behind my car instead of infront

[stoic ledge]

That's what you think

He went underneath

[charred depot]

own fault if he did

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

did a mad drift innit

[stoic ledge]

I'm going to get a new dashcam... After nearly 4 years of usage the battery is dying I think

Also I want one with a capacitor

Capacitor > battery

Not such a fan of a battery hanging behind the windshield in 37°C sun sometimes

[charred depot]

may have to pay close attention to see it

[stoic ledge]

Yes, I saw a small skid

Like... Understeer on slippery roads

[charred depot]

nah man big drift

[stoic ledge]

Definitely

[fathom socket]

damn bro u drift like in tokyo

[charred depot]

those tyres were useless in every climate

[stoic ledge]

https://youtu.be/A8Kr73hdYwE?t=0m37s

(Timestamped)

My car a formula 1 car (sound)

[charred depot]

literally tap the accelerator and steering wheel feels like its detached from the wheels

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

how much hp you got?

[stoic ledge]

Me or ged

[charred depot]

~70 at the engine

[dense shard]

🤔

You should get better tires.

[charred depot]

i did

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

what is taht like an up?

[stoic ledge]

Mazda 2

[charred depot]

mines is a Mazda 2

[dense shard]

If you're losing control with 70... that's not good.

[fathom socket]

basically an rx7 in driftu capabilities

just the wrong tyres are skidding

[charred depot]

Literally slight rain, try to accelerate onto a roundabout and im just spinning the wheels

[stoic ledge]

Oof

[charred depot]

I have Toyo Proxes TR1's now

[fathom socket]

that is quite a yikes

[charred depot]

I can actually corner without being on edge now

[fathom socket]

ebic

[charred depot]

For some reason it had 2 reasonably nice Maxxis tyres on rear

And 2 different mystery chinese brands on the front

[stoic ledge]

Yikes

2 different tires at one axle

[charred depot]

guy at the tyre place was like this ones got tonnes of tread left why you replacing it

Pretty sure they sold it onto some other poor sod as part worn

[fathom socket]

i know i have a pirreli on one side

[stoic ledge]

No

Bad

No

[fathom socket]

i cant remember what else i have

[stoic ledge]

Iirc it's even illegal here to have 2 different tires on 1 axle

[charred depot]

i think as long as its the same size here they dont mind

[fathom socket]

i only remember looking at one tyre and seeing pirreli so probably symetrical