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give us back the Sebring
And if that's anything like the Dart, it's a turd.
It's still an FCA small car.
oh no
And yet the Dart was a critical failure in the US.
The 500 did no better.
it's because the US market is a big pot of bias and pain
How was it messed with Chrysler?
and it's matured enough
The Dart did nothing to reverse Chrysler rep in the US.
Those had to be done.
There's no quotations.
Either the car is legal or it isn't.
That's on FCA for half assing it then.
If compliance has to be retrofitted for a made for the US platform... I'd say that's halfassery.
They should have designed a product for the market.
Then they shouldn't have sold it at any point.
"it was designed for another market" doesn't fly when it's released elsewhere.
And yet, Fiat tried to sell it in the US.
They could have put the time and money into making a product worth owning... or they could have half assed it.
Just as Lincoln halfasses their shit for Europe, Fiat halfassed their stuff for America.
Both deserve any and all flak they get.
But I'm talking about the Dart mainly.
I'm aware of what the 500 was.
Just because it was made before anyone planned anything doesn't relegate it from being criticized.
Fiat, stupidly, chose to sell a car not fit for the US market.
It's like selling bacon in Israel.
And anyway. FCA's efforts with the Dart only paint them in a worse picture.
And what conditions were those?
Cause if I think about it even a tiny bit.
The 500 being sold in the US makes zero sense.
I vaguely remember those, but it doesn't excuse shoddy products.
The Chrysler 200 and Dodge Dart were both fresh cars that were flat out non-competitive.
And that was against the era Civic and Corolla which aren't known for their qualities.
So they increased sales at the cost of quality.
Amusingly. Jeep and RAM now make up the bulk of FCA's profits.
The rebadge is a detriment to quality when the original product is already crap.
It has the potential to drag the rebadge brand down.
That's... that's not exactly a good thing.
oof
That's actually really sad.
It's cheap, but it's a penalty box given form.
It is the last car in the US to be sold with a 4 speed automatic.
The only redeeming feature of the Journey is the price per passenger.
Otherwise it's a product of Cerberus Capital.
It has 6, 9, and now 9 speeds.
It's a decent engine, but it's getting on in age.
no, the Cherokee does.
same engine
oh, the 300.
It's a former Mercedes product.
I guess it still works?
Nothing FCA does in the US makes any sense.
Majority of Journeys still have the 4 speed slushbox from the 90s
4?
300 died now I thought
Because the Voyager, Pacifica, and Pacifica PHEV are totally 3 unique products. /s
Voyager? Tf?
It's the low end trim of the Pacifica.
Ah
It's a trim, not a model.
So in a practical purposes they have 2 cars
Yes.
300 and pacifica
how the mighty have fallen
You think that's bad.
Yup
VW rebranded the Caravan as a Touran.
oh right, the Durango. lol
Another Daimler era product.
To think. FCA's freshest product in the US is a Jeep.
Ford has talked about cancelling the Edge/Escape alongside their sedans and relegating people who want a small ford SUV to either the explorer or ecosport, and the ecosport is hot trash
I haven' theard of the Edge going away.
I should say, just not refreshing them anymore and letting the model die not immediate cancellation
But I can see the Escape going away to justify the new Bronco Sport.
It's not a brand, it's a lifestyel.
Ford is making a lot of stupid decisions atm
The Jeep Gladiator...
A pickup truck that went on sale a few months after it was released.
Rumors are Jeep was giving out 10k discounts.
I totally get cancelling the Taurus. They literally were selling like 200 a year. But it was dumb to cancel the Fusion
Rumors are the Fusion will be replaced with a tall wagon soon™️.
In the US?
FCA and electrical doesn't mix
It's a proud tradition going back to the 60s.
Then FCA needs to hold their suppliers to better standards.
^
FCA products tend to have issues in the US.
That includes RAM.
Electrical issues that aren't as notable in Ford or GM.
Jdpower is bullshit
That and they get paid by manufacturers
The current 2019 Ram is rated with a predicted reliability rating of only two out five.
American truck owners are also willing to forgive a lot.
I don't know if this is blind tribalism or sunken cost fallacies.
GM, Ford, and RAM each have, imo, severe issues.
why do people need digital rear view mirrors!?
That's such a fucking gimmick.
You can then adjust your side view mirrors to compensate.
Move your cargo to unblock rear sightlines.
Ask your passengers to move.
I think there isn't a single favorable view on digital rear view mirrors.
well yes, I don't have an issue with the rest. lol
LED headlamps and fogs is great imo if properly designed.
I won't judge till that's released.
Not a huge fan of all digital clusters, but who am I to say no to progress.
New dash design is overdue, 360 cameras sound kinda gimmicky to me, but w/e.
If it helps someone, that's awesome.
New platforms are also a welcome move.
But more electronic gimmicks that go beyond safety... ergh. I do not like that.
Automakers must perfect single screen interfaces before they start throwing more screens and functions in.
Right now every automaker's touchscreen has interface issues.
Either lag, not user friendly, or lacks buttons.
In a few cases all three. 😂
Looking at your Jaguar and Land Rover.
Screw step up. The systems need to be as fast, smooth, and intuitive as the 90s were.
I know I'm being harsh.
But honestly this is a huge safety concern.
Rumors are uConnect is one of the better systems out there.
I haven't played with GM's system, but I can believe it because Ford Sync is... laggy and not easy to use.
Toyota's Entune 3.0 is kinda crap.
I say that as a Toyota owner.
Honda's system was blah.
Mazda's was very fast, smooth, but not the easiest to use.
Sure.
That doesn't mean the generations old hardware has to be buggy, laggy, and confusing.
Automakers should 100% focus on responsiveness and ease of use.
I don't care if the graphics are ugly. Make it work.
Mazda's system for example is very very spartan. But man oh man it is smoooooooth.
Toyota's digital cluster is weird.
Like physical gauges with a screen in the middle (G70) is great but I hate the design of 99% of digital clusters
I appreciate Toyota's last gen approach as much as I hate it. lol
The fake floating gauges in my RX is decent imo
Better than needles in gray plastic with numbers on it at least
I liked BMWs approach in like the F10/F11 5er
It really shouldn't be an issue tho.
And this is just perfection
no temp gauge?
Nope 
yes you can, Tesla did
It was in the Corsa C, it was in the Corsa E, but not in the Corsa D
You can take the time and money to develop a responsive digitizer.
it's a responsive screen, for all their other faults
If the tech isn't mature. Don't shove it in.
^
Otherwise you have created an unsafe driving environment.
course even shitty touchscreens is better than Lexus infotainment
Bless Toyota and Mazda for keeping HVAC controls separate.
a
Screw step up. The systems need to be as fast, smooth, and intuitive as the 90s were.
@dense shard well. golly gee whizz, my dad did drive a 90s corolla for a while, so I know what you mean
Anyone who has driven a car with analog controls knows what I mean.
so me
Literally everyone here I think.
in the international-spec 2007 corolla
ah yes, but our Corolla was bigger.
Everything in Europe is nicer than the US
(more bumper baby!)
That's just how that works
my dad drives the peak-boomer faux wood-inserts 2007
yea. But the G70 wagon might be a Europe exclusive >:(
explain how Tesla has a fast screen then
If you can't use glass + capacitive touch
Millions of dollars.
They should take an extra few million to develop a system that doesn't lag.
A system that makes sense to use.
UI shouldn't be a huge issue, yet it is.
they don't develop this
yea. But the G70 wagon might be a Europe exclusive >:(
@indigo coral yes pls
Someone develops it, and someone signs off on it.
they offload the work to crappy OEMs
Both need to be slapped.
OEMs aren't an excuse.
Automakers provide the specs and do final approval.
no don't make it exclusive, I want one @stoic ledge
Also not very user friendly.
You shouldn't have to touch a screen to change wiper speeds.
I agree but I was just saying the screen is fast + has good touch
oh yeah.
Tesla proves it can be done.
Hell... Mazda proved it can be done.
Mind you they removed the touch screen bit.
Tesla's software is awful but the screen hardware is good
well... till it destroys the flash memory... or the screen starts leaking.
I don't believe in planned obsolescence in cars, but damn Tesla makes a good argument.
Yeah then they find that issue and cut the warranty in half
"second warranty is up you'll need to replace the entire screen computer."
I think their parts are certified.
It's hard to sell anything in the US otherwise.
I'm calling bull on decades.
then it's?
So it's an internal standard set internally, and tested and approved... internally.
"we have looked into the issue, and found we have done nothing wrong"
Self proclaimed standards are the last ones I believe from automakers.
Especially after pretty much all of them were caught lying.
Tesla's scamming is getting insane
"we found a defect with the chip on here, so instead of stepping up and fixing it like every other automaker, were going to cut the warranty, for future and retroactively, so that everyone has to pay for it isntead of having it covered"
And a few of those are also government standards.
The chip wasn't at fault.
It was designed to work without telematics. Tesla basically asked a fat man to run 10k.
Tesla fucked themselves with their own feature creep... somehow they lacked the foresight to foresee this.
I'd argue that nobody foresaw tesla becoming the beheamoth that it is
it's also a functioning firm
With real competition, they've fallen behind in Norway.
I don't have context on what it specifically takes to design a car.
And honestly? I don't need the context. I look at cars from the consumer point of view.
Prices are going up, features are increasing, and I'm going to hold automakers accountable.
I don't care if it is difficult to implement a feature.
I do expect it to work.
Perfectly, every time.
Paying 40k for a laggy, buggy, PITA screen is not acceptable.
I now the basics of how it goes down behind the scenes.
But the end results I view as a consumer.
Lots of effort, I get it.
Doesn't mean the end result is good. Sometimes more effort is needed.
I put a lot of effort into my school work. Doesn't mean I got all As.
Whatever reason any automaker has.
It's not good enough for buggy, laggy, unintuitive software.
That's great, but consumers don't care.
We want something that works.
It can be a literal potato that powers it all.
If it works, it works.
nick
Aren't you lucky with insider access
not being sarcastic btw
god, must've been good to be a CEO in 60's detroit
PS4S tires on an eGolf. Over 1 G on the skidpad.
"Despite the modifications and the instrumented testing, my PS4S-equipped e-Golf nailed its EPA-rated 119 MPGe on the head."
That's awesome
The real shocker is the eco-tires on the smaller aero rims.
The eco wheels managed to beat the EPA rating by almost 20%
I'm getting Hankook Ventus Prime 3 soon on the Corsa 
Used Tesla are terrible. Not at being vehicles, they are still great at that.
It's just the fact that you have no idea what you are actually buying. Unless you look up the VIN.
With all the camera updates and everything that they have done over the years.
and Tesla disabled autopilot, interior features, premium audio, supercharging, etc on used cars.
So you can pay them again to get the features back
:tableflip:
Here’s the skyline I so called don’t own
R33s were nice.
They are cars
They were made to be more luxurious and mature than the R32
The normal models are nothing to write home about
Still. No reason not to like a car.
The one above is a GTS4
Beef?
body on frame
Unibody is where its at for comfort.
the Grand marquis makes a compelling argument stating the contrary
Body on frame just means heavy
and fun
also, muh 4.6L SOHC (DOHC only in the marauder and koenigseggs, where it made 803 HP)
how do you even spell KOeREEEEnigsegg?
wood
mhmm
but this is better wood
if you see someone in this, you know that they're better than you
nah
go with the flow, it's a jaaaaag
that means they have catastrophic maitenence expense
@indigo coral because they're better
wood
moar wood
moar
wood
moar
wood
You cant get wood splinters from a bentley
R33 feeling steezy as ever
Brown what
a car needs a certain amount of brown in it
to be any good
where's the brown in that?
I'm joking, btw
I kinda wish the RX-7 had the brown interior, ngl
Or even just burgundy
The black interior looks nice, but it sucks in the summer
Mmmm yes it's 94 F outside. Interior be like 150 F and everything gives you 3rd degree burns if you even think about touching it

What in the goddamn
Lmao
Still no idea what I'm looking at
🤔
What in the goddamn
Alfa tried to make a rotary?
🤔
Many people have.
What triangular shaped food do the Italians have
Then they realized that maybe they shouldn't make their vehicles less reliable.
That is a rotor, yes.
And a housing.
Those are smol
Kind of boring how wankels are so similar to each other.
By the same metric you could say it's boring how all piston motors are nearly identical
Less so compared to wankel.
The different rotaries all look slightly different in overall design
You can't really play around with the heads and shapes of the pistons for wankels.
Or rotors, I should say.
Where even is that
nice volvo
Looks like Denmark
Maybe Poland
Yeah probs somewhere in Scandinavia
Also


Yes, volvo
p o l e s t a r

It's an S60 :3
Gotta love dem 5 pots ngl
What's your favorite engine out of the volvo modular engines?
it makes 802 horsepower in the Koegnigsegg CCX
that's a bunch
it made like, 200 in the old town cars
302 in the marauder
210-225 in the crown vic
245 in the p71 police interceptors
the DOHC variants are in the marauder and ccx
and a bunch of boutique supercars
the rest of us get SOHC variants
Fundementally, yea, you can't really change rotor shape and whatnot. But it seems like each manufacturers take on the rotary has dramatic design differences in how the housings are designed and how the rotor is mounted
Its the same way with piston motors
The fundemental design is the same, but head shapes and block design can vary greatly
Ahhhh
THE VW CADDY BECAME UGL.. uglier..
interior got better
it never was a particularly pretty car
thanks google for that ad, i didn't want to see it
More dutchies 
THE VW CADDY BECAME UGL.. uglier..
Yes
Partner/Berlingo/Combo/ProAce City > Caddy 
youtube just showed me an ad about it and i was like, vw you really want to present that
Well there new Golf doesn't look good either (imho)
but wont change that it is a great vehicle for small companies etc
And then they show it in a spec with alloy wheels and painted bumpers etc, which nobody will get
The old one was only 17 years old ...
we had alloy on our 2007 one xD
my dad would still drive it if someone hadn't drove into it
Sure the passenger version, but nearly never on the commercial ones except private business owners or something like that
The new Transporter Mule's are also horrible
The cab is like super far back, decreasing cargo area by a lot
600k km not a single unavoidable failure

and it was a nice car to learn driving in
1.9 TDI?
no electonic help
Inb4 SDI
it was diesel but idk which one
Probably a 1.9, otherwise it wouldn't have made it that far
i think it was 2.0
ye 109hp that one was it
Imagine getting a 100hp car that isn't an FB
aaand i shouldn't drive more than 170kmh buuuut.. its legal and highway empty sooooo im stopped at like 175 👀
pissing off derpy bmw drivers by slowing them down to 170 
nice corolla
can get about 201-210 horsepower, can't get above 87 mph
Either I'm not pushing it, or the case just can't
Depends on which model
and which country
US got the 112HP engine
Well
Some places in Asia got the carburated SOHC 4A-C
I had 113 HP engine
which was 80hp
That valves were dying
It's mostly the emissions garbage
the AFM
Hmm
Make the car run on LPG
U have less emissions
the other more powerful variants got the 120hp one with the MAP sensor
the rwd e80 got a bunch of unnecessary versions
especially in Asia
The most popular variant being the GT Apex
In America it was 3 trim levels
DX
SR5
and the GT-S
but some markets got different trims such as the GT-V
SR
SE
XL
XL Lissé
GL
GL Lime
Screw the 86 and the 85
What I want is a Sports 800
with a bus air conditioning auxiliary engine
for US?
Europe
Idk it varies wildly
Tofu tax.
You'll be lucky to pay under 15k for a clean example.
I found an 86 somewhat clean
for 6k
but it has the 4A-C
so no 120hp's of madness for you
Instead you get to play around with 80
That could be fine as well.
no
And go deliver tofu
I'd recommend picking up a nice Auris.
Supra
Lol
2jz engine go struuutuuttu
(with turbo)
Supra sold like shit
New but cool
Lol
if you go for the a80 mk4
with the A60 and the A70 you have more chance
if you can find one at all that is
Yes my private teacher has a A80
She got it for a very long time
A GT-4?
It's her daily driver
I don't know too much about car
I don't get the appeal of Supras
I know alot of brands but that's it😩
Yes
I think it should've bit the passage of time just like the 3000GT
perfect
If you want something light and nimble
get a miata
you won't get a tofu tax
especially an NB
I drive a BMW X5M
ew
My mom's car
nice
bmw
I don't pay
He's not paying em.
Big stonks for me
Especially if something goes wrong with the suspension
or the front gaskets starts leaking
Lol I yeet it in the village
or the timing guides
oh
Still these problems?
Full throttle over bumps
Lol
rest of the car is fine though
Interior is nice
It be like that.
I like going full throttle over bumps
Everyone talking about wanting super cars
Meanwhile I just want a car that has dual zone air conditioning
I have to move dogs around
And single zone kinda sucks in the summer if you're in the backseat
Dual zone is right/left.
You probably need 3-zone
Not front/back.
^ that
Or just have a car with air vents in the back.
may I interest you in a dacia?
dacias are fast
have 2000 nm of torque
4k hp
and they deploy hyperspace drives at 20mph
🤔
At the same time, you can't really use the full amount of the horsepower
Would make getting up to speed on the highway faster
That's why I personally think high power street cars are lame
You can never make use of that power
@rough berry Defender was seen in Sweden. Registered here as well. Northern part of Stockholm.
Won't or can't? 
If it's a question of not wanting to fit. Then you don't have enough will.
@rough berry Defender was seen in Sweden. Registered here as well. Northern part of Stockholm.
@civic spoke AH YES, SWEDEN
I simp for Sweden uwu
New delivery on a car that is not registered yet?? No problem!!
McLaren Stuttgart was good enough to deliver the car straight to the Sky Limit Events Track day for me so that I could do a lap with it and enjoy my first time driving it right where it should be.... On the Nürbu...
Guy got a taxi lap in the 620R for €99
nice
nice
Not a rotary? Banished
I've saw a Buick regatta for sale
ngl the Reatta is cool
It's cool looking
the screen thing is cool af
Compared to rest of cars that looks the same here in Europe
Like literally
Like there are 3 different car brands that make the same exact car
Cars are so boring nowadays
dunno, beats the 70s by far.
Man. The ideal G20 BMW 3 series isn't a thing fo rme.
Would want some of the fancier features. But I do. not. want. live. cockpit.
That's the least of BMW's issues.
Like there are 3 different car brands that make the same exact car
@fathom socket VAG == 4 times the same
At least the PSA products (Peugeot, Citroen, DS, Opel) looks/feel/drive very similar, you wouldn't know they share a platform
In the interior, the only noticable similarities are the automatic shifter and the power windows switches
what about suzuki?
and also
fiat tempra looks like nothing compared to Buick Reatta
I've mean thet tempra tried to look futuristic
what about suzuki?
@fathom socket what's up with Suzuki?
the opel agila
and Suzuki Wagon
well
it doesn't even work
anymore
anbd I actually really like the Buick Reatta
but there is 1 huge drawback
4 speed automatic transition
I hate automatics
and Suzuki Wagon
@fathom socket ah yes, that's like a 1 (2) time thing/rebadge
But that was only that model
I hate automatics that suck
I hate automatics
that suck
Ftfy
how does a car with 165 HP be slower than with 113 HP
lmao
If I could put a manual in it
Do it
Automatics are fine, when built properly. Such as when they have proper gear ratios and a decent number of gears. Also nice when they shift smoothly and at proper times, as well as when the kickdown functions logically.
which oddly enough, an overwhelming majority of auto transmissions don't fit that category
I always diven manual
or CVT
the one time I've driven automtic
I was terrified
it took ages to switch gears
ah, a shitty auto
but I switch gears like a maniac
I accelerate like a maniac
idk
I just like switching gears fast
gotta know ur gear jutsu my man
I don't worry about the clutch
it's gonna to outlast the engine for sure
but I think ford focus was fun enough for me to drive
held on the corners pretty well
but I tink I need a car for cornering
and the mx5 is out of the qestion
why no MX-5?
He's too tall
The mx5 is honestly too small
ah
I'd recommend something like an RX-7 or MR2 instead then
earlier Z cars, like Z32 and earlier, also corner pretty well
I'm tall & fat so the Miata is just too tiny
Civic hatches and coupes also handle well, if you'd prefer FWD camp
(also, unpopular opinion time, I think it's not especially good looking)
It's not downright ugly (see; Chevy Aveo) it's just kinda meh
I have an irrational hatred for the aveo
Well it's a Daewoo lol
wasn't there a sedan model too
Idk
I've literally never seen those hatches, ever
Yes
Hatch and sedan
Yes
But like, 2 gens after the Kadett got discontinued
Nexia?
I think that was it
Yes it was
Pontiac LeMans 
Trick to driving automatic is take it easy
I can't
you can
you don't have to take it easy, just know how the car behaves
Either way. Not hard to work with.
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Either there are a lot of bored people...
I'm actually getting a bit queasy with the camera pan.
If you need a video for how to start the car, you shouldn't be driving lol.
That's the kind of shit I'd watch just for fun
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And to learn tips or tricks I might not know
Since some people have issues with automatic transmissions.
also, that Toyota button has literally not changed in over 15 years
If it works, it works.
the 2nd gen Prius has an identical button
that's the best pic I have of the button, iirc
this is a little better, maybe
ngl
I wish my car had a sport button.
... I should wire one in.
It'll just light up. Nothing else.
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The comments are universally: "This is the worst thing ever."
My sport button is hearing the choke knob disengage
which means I can stop short shifting at 3k and start shifting normally
and by that, I mean follow max mpg shift points
but then after driving around normally a little, i t s r e d l i n e t i m e
what
The Prindl stick
That being?
The automatic gear knob
What about it?
It was a reference
Yeah I missed it.

I've expected that
Same 
there's nothing new
@devout atlasno new p a n t h e r body?
yes, no new panther bodies
the koegnigsegg CCX is basically a mercury marauder though
Hi guys
I think we have some mecanis here so I have a lil question
Do you think that the facom lithium grease is good for bearings installation?
(for MTB bearings here)
;-;
I don't know either 
Just saw a Honda E
I have a set of tires that costed me 11 euros
they are crap
but they hold the car on th read
I use high temp bearing grease when I pack bearings
11 euros for a set of tyres?
It just dawned on me.
Basically no one will be able to redline the Koenigsegg Regera while driving.
The nice thing about parking the truck locally. I save 8 gallons a week (30 liters).
@devout atlas is just spotted something which is even better than a Dacia
https://autoplius.lt/skelbimai/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-2-0-l-sedanas-2003-benzinas-11837279.html that evo 😫
time for new tires?
For €11... Probably
They still have thread
I just put them because my winter tires were already worn down
Basically polish made tires
They are cheap by them selfs
But 14 inch rims
If 18 inches is considered poor spec
These tires are very noisy
No wonder nobody wanted them
An insanely Dumb question Does anybody have the wiring diagram for the Ferrari f430
I doubt it.
Ye that thing is insanely rare and i need it
Contact Ferrari.
Are ya crazy they wont give you anything no matter what they will just tell you to go to an Ferrari service and the nearest one to Tenerife is 1400 km away
i today, made the decision to coyote swap my 03 gt 
bought a gen3 out of a totaled 19' GT
Noice
the 4.6 is too expensive to get power out of
wouldn't have been worth it
500hp coyote working condition motor for 8k cad was a good deal to toss in it
i bet all you jeep wrangler owners feel pretty dumb right now
tfw a mini cooper has the same drag coefficient as this
Nice bike
it's a 2020 Kawasaki KLX 140G
Saw you in other channel btw
sweet
there's a learning curve to them for sure
Even having experience with a manual transmission car, I still took thirty minutes to leave my driveway for the first time
what
gets annoying taking this road with people making no attempt to keep left having their wing mirrors over the line
Took me multiple watches to see what you meant
I can't count how many times I've used my horn
most recent usage was because it looked like someone was about to cut in front of me
then that person got all pissed off for some reason and gave me the stink eye out their window as they blew by me at 20 over the limit while laying on their horn
Busses can use the road in my video by the way
like, you pulled out into the middle of the road and it looked like you were about to try and jump it and my brakes are shit, I was just making sure you knew I was there. Didn't have to be such a dick about it
the government wont widen the road but will build a massive cyclepath next to it that barely gets used
id say people here more use the high beam flash than the horn
widening a road is a pain in the dick
lane closures are so god damn annoying
everyone hates it, and the government knows it
there is actually a detour to avoid this road which is a tiny bit longer
its really not that much longer
I take a detour on the way home to avoid a really shitty intersection.
Same intersection I rear ended somebody in
psychological trauma, and the detour is more fun
Personally I'd take the detour if I were you. Better than waking up in a hospital with no idea how you got there
blue is the road im on
Yea, just take the red lol
if it really sketches you out that much anyway
I'd have to drive it myself to really know
I enjoy the backroads most people keep left as much as they can
here, what you would call a "backroad" is a glorified gravel road
aka, its paved, but its so deteriorated that your butt thinks it was paved 4 centuries ago
some of our backroads and arterial roads dont have much between them
this is a arterial road which the government doesent want to make a dual carriageway for some reason
god damn
fortunetely for me where i join and leave there is roundabouts
Americans don't know how to roundabout
at rush hour i dont know how long youd be waiting to get out at a T junction
everything is a roundabout in my town
I take more roundabouts than I do "normal junctions" going to university
we have massive ones all the way down to little painted circles
yea, in the US, if you're not careful you'll get t-boned and/or sideswiped when trying to use a roundabout
with hopes and dreams of people not driving straight over them
People love to whip around roundabouts as fast as they can
on the 2 lane ones here people like to cut across both lanes going straight
they also have a dedicated cycle path about 50m away from the road
what he is doing is completely legal and some people are too scared to path them closely
That reminds me of a a road that Google Maps wants you to take, instead of the 'longer' and straighter way.
Above road is a slower road most of the time. And trucks aren't allowed in there because of how narrow it is.
And here I have 16 gallons.
I have 17.2 and get 17mpg lol
I think the truck is almost 80 gallons? 
Oof
nice
Idgi
Thx

@turbid onyx scirocco in skyline status?
pfft in your dreams
they are just fancier golfs
oh
oh yea
right
I thought you meant the scirocco was in the same status as a skyline
lmao
😂
@dusty radish qualit
cylinders are a myth




