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devout atlas
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with the addition of the Devil/Baal trim

dense shard
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New Neon?

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New Chrysler 200?

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It's a Fiat Tipo.

devout atlas
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give us back the Sebring

dense shard
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And if that's anything like the Dart, it's a turd.

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It's still an FCA small car.

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oh no

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And yet the Dart was a critical failure in the US.

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The 500 did no better.

devout atlas
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it's because the US market is a big pot of bias and pain

dense shard
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How was it messed with Chrysler?

devout atlas
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and it's matured enough

dense shard
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The Dart did nothing to reverse Chrysler rep in the US.

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Those had to be done.

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There's no quotations.

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Either the car is legal or it isn't.

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That's on FCA for half assing it then.

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If compliance has to be retrofitted for a made for the US platform... I'd say that's halfassery.

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They should have designed a product for the market.

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Then they shouldn't have sold it at any point.

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"it was designed for another market" doesn't fly when it's released elsewhere.

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And yet, Fiat tried to sell it in the US.

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They could have put the time and money into making a product worth owning... or they could have half assed it.

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Just as Lincoln halfasses their shit for Europe, Fiat halfassed their stuff for America.

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Both deserve any and all flak they get.

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But I'm talking about the Dart mainly.

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I'm aware of what the 500 was.

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Just because it was made before anyone planned anything doesn't relegate it from being criticized.

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Fiat, stupidly, chose to sell a car not fit for the US market.

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It's like selling bacon in Israel.

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And anyway. FCA's efforts with the Dart only paint them in a worse picture.

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And what conditions were those?

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Cause if I think about it even a tiny bit.

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The 500 being sold in the US makes zero sense.

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I vaguely remember those, but it doesn't excuse shoddy products.

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The Chrysler 200 and Dodge Dart were both fresh cars that were flat out non-competitive.

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And that was against the era Civic and Corolla which aren't known for their qualities.

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So they increased sales at the cost of quality.

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Amusingly. Jeep and RAM now make up the bulk of FCA's profits.

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The rebadge is a detriment to quality when the original product is already crap.

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It has the potential to drag the rebadge brand down.

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That's... that's not exactly a good thing.

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oof

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That's actually really sad.

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It's cheap, but it's a penalty box given form.

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It is the last car in the US to be sold with a 4 speed automatic.

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The only redeeming feature of the Journey is the price per passenger.

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Otherwise it's a product of Cerberus Capital.

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It has 6, 9, and now 9 speeds.

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It's a decent engine, but it's getting on in age.

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no, the Cherokee does.

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same engine

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oh, the 300.

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It's a former Mercedes product.

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I guess it still works?

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Nothing FCA does in the US makes any sense.

indigo coral
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Majority of Journeys still have the 4 speed slushbox from the 90s

dense shard
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Do you know how many cars Chrysler has in their line up here?

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300 and 3 minivans.

indigo coral
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4?

devout atlas
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oof

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big sad

indigo coral
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300 died now I thought

dense shard
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Because the Voyager, Pacifica, and Pacifica PHEV are totally 3 unique products. /s

indigo coral
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Voyager? Tf?

dense shard
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It's the low end trim of the Pacifica.

indigo coral
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Ah

dense shard
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It's a trim, not a model.

indigo coral
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So in a practical purposes they have 2 cars

dense shard
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Yes.

indigo coral
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300 and pacifica

dense shard
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pretty much

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Next year Dodge will have only 2 models.

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Charger and Challenger.

devout atlas
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how the mighty have fallen

dense shard
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You think that's bad.

indigo coral
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Yup

dense shard
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VW rebranded the Caravan as a Touran.

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oh right, the Durango. lol

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Another Daimler era product.

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To think. FCA's freshest product in the US is a Jeep.

indigo coral
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Ford has talked about cancelling the Edge/Escape alongside their sedans and relegating people who want a small ford SUV to either the explorer or ecosport, and the ecosport is hot trash

dense shard
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I haven' theard of the Edge going away.

indigo coral
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I should say, just not refreshing them anymore and letting the model die not immediate cancellation

dense shard
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But I can see the Escape going away to justify the new Bronco Sport.

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It's not a brand, it's a lifestyel.

indigo coral
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Ford is making a lot of stupid decisions atm

dense shard
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The Jeep Gladiator...

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A pickup truck that went on sale a few months after it was released.

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Rumors are Jeep was giving out 10k discounts.

indigo coral
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I totally get cancelling the Taurus. They literally were selling like 200 a year. But it was dumb to cancel the Fusion

dense shard
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Rumors are the Fusion will be replaced with a tall wagon soon™️.

indigo coral
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In the US?

dense shard
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Chrysler and Fiat...

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electronics

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This is NOT going to help them in the US.

indigo coral
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FCA and electrical doesn't mix

dense shard
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It's a proud tradition going back to the 60s.

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Then FCA needs to hold their suppliers to better standards.

indigo coral
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^

dense shard
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FCA products tend to have issues in the US.

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That includes RAM.

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Electrical issues that aren't as notable in Ford or GM.

indigo coral
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Jdpower is bullshit

dense shard
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JD Power only rates initial quality.

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Consumer Reports ranks FCA far lower.

indigo coral
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That and they get paid by manufacturers

dense shard
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The current 2019 Ram is rated with a predicted reliability rating of only two out five.

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American truck owners are also willing to forgive a lot.

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I don't know if this is blind tribalism or sunken cost fallacies.

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GM, Ford, and RAM each have, imo, severe issues.

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why do people need digital rear view mirrors!?

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That's such a fucking gimmick.

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You can then adjust your side view mirrors to compensate.

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Move your cargo to unblock rear sightlines.

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Ask your passengers to move.

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I think there isn't a single favorable view on digital rear view mirrors.

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well yes, I don't have an issue with the rest. lol

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LED headlamps and fogs is great imo if properly designed.

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I won't judge till that's released.

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Not a huge fan of all digital clusters, but who am I to say no to progress.

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New dash design is overdue, 360 cameras sound kinda gimmicky to me, but w/e.

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If it helps someone, that's awesome.

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New platforms are also a welcome move.

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But more electronic gimmicks that go beyond safety... ergh. I do not like that.

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Automakers must perfect single screen interfaces before they start throwing more screens and functions in.

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Right now every automaker's touchscreen has interface issues.

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Either lag, not user friendly, or lacks buttons.

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In a few cases all three. 😂

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Looking at your Jaguar and Land Rover.

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Screw step up. The systems need to be as fast, smooth, and intuitive as the 90s were.

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I know I'm being harsh.

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But honestly this is a huge safety concern.

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Rumors are uConnect is one of the better systems out there.

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I haven't played with GM's system, but I can believe it because Ford Sync is... laggy and not easy to use.

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Toyota's Entune 3.0 is kinda crap.

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I say that as a Toyota owner.

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Honda's system was blah.

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Mazda's was very fast, smooth, but not the easiest to use.

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Sure.

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That doesn't mean the generations old hardware has to be buggy, laggy, and confusing.

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Automakers should 100% focus on responsiveness and ease of use.

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I don't care if the graphics are ugly. Make it work.

indigo coral
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I hate digital gauge clusters

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Absolutely hate them

dense shard
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Mazda's system for example is very very spartan. But man oh man it is smoooooooth.

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Toyota's digital cluster is weird.

indigo coral
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Like physical gauges with a screen in the middle (G70) is great but I hate the design of 99% of digital clusters

dense shard
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I appreciate Toyota's last gen approach as much as I hate it. lol

indigo coral
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The fake floating gauges in my RX is decent imo

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Better than needles in gray plastic with numbers on it at least

stoic ledge
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I liked BMWs approach in like the F10/F11 5er

dense shard
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It really shouldn't be an issue tho.

indigo coral
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This

stoic ledge
dense shard
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no temp gauge?

stoic ledge
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Nope Pogey

indigo coral
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yes you can, Tesla did

stoic ledge
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It was in the Corsa C, it was in the Corsa E, but not in the Corsa D

dense shard
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You can take the time and money to develop a responsive digitizer.

indigo coral
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it's a responsive screen, for all their other faults

dense shard
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If the tech isn't mature. Don't shove it in.

indigo coral
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^

dense shard
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Otherwise you have created an unsafe driving environment.

indigo coral
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course even shitty touchscreens is better than Lexus infotainment

dense shard
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Bless Toyota and Mazda for keeping HVAC controls separate.

devout atlas
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Screw step up. The systems need to be as fast, smooth, and intuitive as the 90s were.
@dense shard well. golly gee whizz, my dad did drive a 90s corolla for a while, so I know what you mean

dense shard
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Anyone who has driven a car with analog controls knows what I mean.

devout atlas
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so me

indigo coral
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My car has HVAC and radio controls on a screen

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With physical controls

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Kek

dense shard
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Literally everyone here I think.

devout atlas
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in the international-spec 2007 corolla

indigo coral
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The screen in my car is weird af

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Works well tho

devout atlas
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our corollas are a bit nicer than the US spec ones

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for some reason

dense shard
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ah yes, but our Corolla was bigger.

indigo coral
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Everything in Europe is nicer than the US

dense shard
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(more bumper baby!)

indigo coral
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That's just how that works

dense shard
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nah, US gets the nicer Corolla this time.

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2.0L with manual. Pogey

devout atlas
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my dad drives the peak-boomer faux wood-inserts 2007

indigo coral
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yea. But the G70 wagon might be a Europe exclusive >:(

devout atlas
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with beige interior

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naturally

indigo coral
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explain how Tesla has a fast screen then

dense shard
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That's my issue.

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It's already taking months, years, generations.

indigo coral
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If you can't use glass + capacitive touch

dense shard
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Millions of dollars.

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They should take an extra few million to develop a system that doesn't lag.

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A system that makes sense to use.

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UI shouldn't be a huge issue, yet it is.

devout atlas
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they don't develop this

stoic ledge
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yea. But the G70 wagon might be a Europe exclusive >:(
@indigo coral yes pls

dense shard
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Someone develops it, and someone signs off on it.

devout atlas
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they offload the work to crappy OEMs

dense shard
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Both need to be slapped.

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OEMs aren't an excuse.

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Automakers provide the specs and do final approval.

indigo coral
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no don't make it exclusive, I want one @stoic ledge

dense shard
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They approve shit.

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Also don't Tesla screens... leak?

indigo coral
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Not since 2012/2013

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I'm more talking about model 3

dense shard
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Also not very user friendly.

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You shouldn't have to touch a screen to change wiper speeds.

indigo coral
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I agree but I was just saying the screen is fast + has good touch

dense shard
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oh yeah.

indigo coral
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not debating whether or not it was an effective use of a screen

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Lol

dense shard
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Tesla proves it can be done.

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Hell... Mazda proved it can be done.

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Mind you they removed the touch screen bit.

indigo coral
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Tesla's software is awful but the screen hardware is good

dense shard
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well... till it destroys the flash memory... or the screen starts leaking.

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I don't believe in planned obsolescence in cars, but damn Tesla makes a good argument.

indigo coral
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Yeah then they find that issue and cut the warranty in half

dense shard
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"second warranty is up you'll need to replace the entire screen computer."

indigo coral
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Including retroactively

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Just to fuck the customer

dense shard
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I think their parts are certified.

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It's hard to sell anything in the US otherwise.

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I'm calling bull on decades.

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then it's?

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So it's an internal standard set internally, and tested and approved... internally.

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"we have looked into the issue, and found we have done nothing wrong"

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Self proclaimed standards are the last ones I believe from automakers.

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Especially after pretty much all of them were caught lying.

indigo coral
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Tesla's scamming is getting insane

dense shard
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Or ended up killing someone.

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Yes, I'm aware of the SAE and the such.

indigo coral
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"we found a defect with the chip on here, so instead of stepping up and fixing it like every other automaker, were going to cut the warranty, for future and retroactively, so that everyone has to pay for it isntead of having it covered"

dense shard
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And a few of those are also government standards.

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The chip wasn't at fault.

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It was designed to work without telematics. Tesla basically asked a fat man to run 10k.

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Tesla fucked themselves with their own feature creep... somehow they lacked the foresight to foresee this.

devout atlas
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I'd argue that nobody foresaw tesla becoming the beheamoth that it is

dense shard
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Tesla is a meme.

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Nothing more.

devout atlas
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it's also a functioning firm

dense shard
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With real competition, they've fallen behind in Norway.

devout atlas
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for some reason

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delete tesla

dense shard
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I don't have context on what it specifically takes to design a car.

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And honestly? I don't need the context. I look at cars from the consumer point of view.

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Prices are going up, features are increasing, and I'm going to hold automakers accountable.

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I don't care if it is difficult to implement a feature.

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I do expect it to work.

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Perfectly, every time.

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Paying 40k for a laggy, buggy, PITA screen is not acceptable.

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I now the basics of how it goes down behind the scenes.

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But the end results I view as a consumer.

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Lots of effort, I get it.

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Doesn't mean the end result is good. Sometimes more effort is needed.

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I put a lot of effort into my school work. Doesn't mean I got all As.

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Whatever reason any automaker has.

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It's not good enough for buggy, laggy, unintuitive software.

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That's great, but consumers don't care.

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We want something that works.

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It can be a literal potato that powers it all.

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If it works, it works.

devout atlas
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nick

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Aren't you lucky with insider access

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not being sarcastic btw

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god, must've been good to be a CEO in 60's detroit

civic spoke
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PS4S tires on an eGolf. Over 1 G on the skidpad.

dense shard
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What about the range?

civic spoke
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"Despite the modifications and the instrumented testing, my PS4S-equipped e-Golf nailed its EPA-rated 119 MPGe on the head."

dense shard
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That's awesome

civic spoke
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The real shocker is the eco-tires on the smaller aero rims.

indigo coral
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PS4S on RX 300

civic spoke
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The eco wheels managed to beat the EPA rating by almost 20%

stoic ledge
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I'm getting Hankook Ventus Prime 3 soon on the Corsa Pogey

civic spoke
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Used Tesla are terrible. Not at being vehicles, they are still great at that.

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It's just the fact that you have no idea what you are actually buying. Unless you look up the VIN.

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With all the camera updates and everything that they have done over the years.

indigo coral
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and Tesla disabled autopilot, interior features, premium audio, supercharging, etc on used cars.

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So you can pay them again to get the features back

civic spoke
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:tableflip:

indigo coral
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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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lol

stoic ledge
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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

crisp cedar
devout atlas
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nice

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R33

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you totally don't own it /s

fathom socket
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Who cares it's a R33

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Probably a 2 or a 2.5L

dense shard
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R33s were nice.

fathom socket
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They are cars

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They were made to be more luxurious and mature than the R32

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The normal models are nothing to write home about

dense shard
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Still. No reason not to like a car.

fathom socket
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The one above is a GTS4

devout atlas
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They are cars
@fathom socket well, no shit

fathom socket
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Didnt say they are bad

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I actually like R33s

devout atlas
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hmm yes

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May i interest you in the panther body?

fathom socket
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They are just normal cars

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Panther?

devout atlas
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panther bodies

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not normal

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cheap

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and comfy

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and big

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last gasp of the B on F

fathom socket
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Beef?

devout atlas
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body on frame

civic spoke
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Unibody is where its at for comfort.

devout atlas
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the Grand marquis makes a compelling argument stating the contrary

fathom socket
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Body on frame just means heavy

devout atlas
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and fun

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also, muh 4.6L SOHC (DOHC only in the marauder and koenigseggs, where it made 803 HP)

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how do you even spell KOeREEEEnigsegg?

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wood

indigo coral
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im stick to my lexuses

devout atlas
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yes

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but this has wood

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it needs to be more beige

indigo coral
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mine has wood too

devout atlas
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but this is better wood

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if you see someone in this, you know that they're better than you

indigo coral
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nah

devout atlas
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go with the flow, it's a jaaaaag

indigo coral
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that means they have catastrophic maitenence expense

devout atlas
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that means they have catastrophic maitenence expense
@indigo coral because they're better

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wood

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moar

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wood

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moar

fathom socket
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Fake wood smh

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Back in old BL you got real floorboard wood

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Not sanded

devout atlas
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hence

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the arnage

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and the turbo R

fathom socket
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You cant get wood splinters from a bentley

devout atlas
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you can

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you just need a 60s car

crisp cedar
devout atlas
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nice

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but where's the brown?

crisp cedar
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Brown what

devout atlas
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a car needs a certain amount of brown in it

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to be any good

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where's the brown in that?

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I'm joking, btw

civic girder
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I kinda wish the RX-7 had the brown interior, ngl

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Or even just burgundy

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The black interior looks nice, but it sucks in the summer

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Mmmm yes it's 94 F outside. Interior be like 150 F and everything gives you 3rd degree burns if you even think about touching it

stoic ledge
civic girder
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What in the goddamn

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Lmao

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Still no idea what I'm looking at

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🤔

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What in the goddamn

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Alfa tried to make a rotary?

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🤔

civic spoke
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Many people have.

civic girder
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What triangular shaped food do the Italians have

civic spoke
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Then they realized that maybe they shouldn't make their vehicles less reliable.

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That is a rotor, yes.

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And a housing.

civic girder
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Those are smol

civic spoke
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Kind of boring how wankels are so similar to each other.

civic girder
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By the same metric you could say it's boring how all piston motors are nearly identical

civic spoke
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Less so compared to wankel.

civic girder
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The different rotaries all look slightly different in overall design

civic spoke
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You can't really play around with the heads and shapes of the pistons for wankels.

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Or rotors, I should say.

civic spoke
devout atlas
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ah

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new defender

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nice

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that weird floating body panel annoys me to no end

rough berry
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Where even is that

devout atlas
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EU

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you can see the EU license plates

rough berry
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I know

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I'm Dutch lol

devout atlas
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nice volvo

rough berry
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Looks like Denmark

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Maybe Poland

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Yeah probs somewhere in Scandinavia

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Also

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Yes, volvo

devout atlas
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p o l e s t a r

rough berry
devout atlas
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ah yes

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2002 volvo s80

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i know

rough berry
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It's an S60 :3

devout atlas
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ah

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shit

rough berry
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Gotta love dem 5 pots ngl

devout atlas
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ye

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I'm more of a Vee eite murica guy

rough berry
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What's your favorite engine out of the volvo modular engines?

devout atlas
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ford 4.6L Modular V8

rough berry
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That thing makes the same amount of power as the 2.0T xD

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Lmao

devout atlas
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eh

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actually

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depends on the car it's in

rough berry
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Still

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Lol

devout atlas
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it makes 802 horsepower in the Koegnigsegg CCX

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that's a bunch

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it made like, 200 in the old town cars

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302 in the marauder

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210-225 in the crown vic

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245 in the p71 police interceptors

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the DOHC variants are in the marauder and ccx

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and a bunch of boutique supercars

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the rest of us get SOHC variants

devout atlas
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hmm yes

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nice a u d i

civic girder
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Fundementally, yea, you can't really change rotor shape and whatnot. But it seems like each manufacturers take on the rotary has dramatic design differences in how the housings are designed and how the rotor is mounted

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Its the same way with piston motors

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The fundemental design is the same, but head shapes and block design can vary greatly

bitter compass
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Ahhhh

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THE VW CADDY BECAME UGL.. uglier..

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interior got better

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it never was a particularly pretty car

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thanks google for that ad, i didn't want to see it

stoic ledge
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More dutchies Pogey

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THE VW CADDY BECAME UGL.. uglier..
Yes

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Partner/Berlingo/Combo/ProAce City > Caddy Pogey

bitter compass
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youtube just showed me an ad about it and i was like, vw you really want to present that

stoic ledge
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Well there new Golf doesn't look good either (imho)

bitter compass
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but wont change that it is a great vehicle for small companies etc

stoic ledge
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And then they show it in a spec with alloy wheels and painted bumpers etc, which nobody will get

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The old one was only 17 years old ...

bitter compass
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we had alloy on our 2007 one xD

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my dad would still drive it if someone hadn't drove into it

stoic ledge
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Sure the passenger version, but nearly never on the commercial ones except private business owners or something like that

bitter compass
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ye passenger

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but it was such an reliable beast

stoic ledge
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The new Transporter Mule's are also horrible

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The cab is like super far back, decreasing cargo area by a lot

bitter compass
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600k km not a single unavoidable failure

stoic ledge
bitter compass
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and it was a nice car to learn driving in

stoic ledge
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1.9 TDI?

bitter compass
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no electonic help

stoic ledge
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Inb4 SDI

bitter compass
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it was diesel but idk which one

stoic ledge
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Probably a 1.9, otherwise it wouldn't have made it that far

bitter compass
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i think it was 2.0

drowsy ruin
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I need it

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Aaa

bitter compass
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ye 109hp that one was it

civic girder
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Imagine getting a 100hp car that isn't an FB

bitter compass
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bruh im driving 75hp car because lul practical

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at least for me

civic girder
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Same

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My daily may as well be 75hp

bitter compass
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aaand i shouldn't drive more than 170kmh buuuut.. its legal and highway empty sooooo im stopped at like 175 👀

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pissing off derpy bmw drivers by slowing them down to 170 linusKappa

devout atlas
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nice corolla

tight cypress
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meh my car got 90 and im just clutch kickin it

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powar

crisp jolt
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can get about 201-210 horsepower, can't get above 87 mph

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Either I'm not pushing it, or the case just can't

fathom socket
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Depends on which model

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and which country

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US got the 112HP engine

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Well

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Some places in Asia got the carburated SOHC 4A-C

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I had 113 HP engine

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which was 80hp

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That valves were dying

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It's mostly the emissions garbage

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the AFM

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Hmm

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Make the car run on LPG

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U have less emissions

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the other more powerful variants got the 120hp one with the MAP sensor

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the rwd e80 got a bunch of unnecessary versions

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especially in Asia

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The most popular variant being the GT Apex

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In America it was 3 trim levels

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DX

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SR5

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and the GT-S

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but some markets got different trims such as the GT-V

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SR
SE

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XL

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XL Lissé
GL
GL Lime

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Screw the 86 and the 85

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What I want is a Sports 800

drowsy ruin
#

Hi

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I want a car lol

fathom socket
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with a bus air conditioning auxiliary engine

drowsy ruin
#

Anyone know good price for Toyota ae86 sprinter trueno

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?

fathom socket
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for US?

drowsy ruin
#

Europe

fathom socket
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Idk it varies wildly

drowsy ruin
#

I want one so bad

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Someone in my village has one

fathom socket
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They are just cars

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light hot hatch

dense shard
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Tofu tax.

fathom socket
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or 2 door coupe

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yea tofu tax is a bummer

dense shard
#

You'll be lucky to pay under 15k for a clean example.

fathom socket
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I found an 86 somewhat clean

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for 6k

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but it has the 4A-C

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so no 120hp's of madness for you

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Instead you get to play around with 80

dense shard
#

That could be fine as well.

drowsy ruin
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Yeah

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Then make it initial d

fathom socket
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no

drowsy ruin
#

And go deliver tofu

dense shard
#

I'd recommend picking up a nice Auris.

fathom socket
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Get an older corolla

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or a celica

drowsy ruin
#

Supra

fathom socket
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It'll be a fine replacement

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Mk. 3 sure?

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If you can find one

drowsy ruin
#

Lol

fathom socket
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or even an mk2

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Mk.2s are classy cars

drowsy ruin
#

2jz engine go struuutuuttu

fathom socket
#

no

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Instead you get to play around with the more classy

drowsy ruin
#

(with turbo)

fathom socket
#

2.8 liter

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5m-e

drowsy ruin
#

Stock supra

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My mom has a nice car

fathom socket
#

Supra sold like shit

drowsy ruin
#

New but cool

fathom socket
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in EU

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Good luck finding one under used lambo money

drowsy ruin
#

Lol

fathom socket
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if you go for the a80 mk4

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with the A60 and the A70 you have more chance

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if you can find one at all that is

drowsy ruin
#

Yes my private teacher has a A80

dense shard
#

Easy answer.

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Toyota Celica All-Trac

drowsy ruin
#

She got it for a very long time

fathom socket
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A GT-4?

drowsy ruin
#

It's her daily driver

fathom socket
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yea sure if you can find one that hasnt rusted away

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go for it

drowsy ruin
#

I don't know too much about car

fathom socket
#

I don't get the appeal of Supras

drowsy ruin
#

I know alot of brands but that's it😩

dense shard
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If you are looking for a first car.

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Corolla or Civic.

drowsy ruin
#

Yes

fathom socket
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I think it should've bit the passage of time just like the 3000GT

drowsy ruin
#

I use my mom's car

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She never drives

dense shard
#

perfect

fathom socket
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If you want something light and nimble

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get a miata

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you won't get a tofu tax

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especially an NB

drowsy ruin
#

I drive a BMW X5M

fathom socket
#

ew

drowsy ruin
#

My mom's car

fathom socket
#

x5

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and ew

dense shard
#

nice

fathom socket
#

bmw

dense shard
#

X5M

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sports version

drowsy ruin
#

I don't pay so

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Always nice

fathom socket
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I mean its a good car

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but the bills

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not so much

drowsy ruin
#

I don't pay

dense shard
#

He's not paying em.

drowsy ruin
#

Big stonks for me

fathom socket
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Especially if something goes wrong with the suspension

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or the front gaskets starts leaking

drowsy ruin
#

Lol I yeet it in the village

fathom socket
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or the timing guides

drowsy ruin
#

It's the new one bte

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Btw

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From 2019

fathom socket
#

oh

drowsy ruin
#

Still these problems?

fathom socket
#

then I know nothing about it

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im talking pre 2010

drowsy ruin
#

Oooohh

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So I can still yeet it in the village

fathom socket
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I mean I already didn't like the X5

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but the newer one

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gosh those grills

drowsy ruin
#

Full throttle over bumps

fathom socket
#

EW

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They look like tumours

drowsy ruin
#

Lol

fathom socket
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rest of the car is fine though

drowsy ruin
#

Interior is nice

fathom socket
#

I imagine so

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You can't get a luxury interior wrong nowadays

drowsy ruin
#

Nice fake engine sounds xd

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And it's big

dense shard
#

It be like that.

drowsy ruin
#

I like going full throttle over bumps

fathom socket
#

what a fantastic idea

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just torture the suspension

crisp jolt
#

Everyone talking about wanting super cars

fathom socket
#

I want a Corolla GTi

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or a FX16 GT

crisp jolt
#

Meanwhile I just want a car that has dual zone air conditioning

dense shard
#

Super cars are fun. And helluva flex on the rest.

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Why dual zone AC?

fathom socket
#

dual zone air conditioning

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why

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also most supercars dont have dual zone a/c

crisp jolt
#

I have to move dogs around

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And single zone kinda sucks in the summer if you're in the backseat

dense shard
#

Dual zone is right/left.

stoic ledge
#

You probably need 3-zone

dense shard
#

Not front/back.

stoic ledge
#

^ that

dense shard
#

Or just have a car with air vents in the back.

devout atlas
#

may I interest you in a dacia?

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dacias are fast

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have 2000 nm of torque

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4k hp

#

and they deploy hyperspace drives at 20mph

stoic ledge
#

🤔

crisp jolt
#

At the same time, you can't really use the full amount of the horsepower

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Would make getting up to speed on the highway faster

civic girder
#

That's why I personally think high power street cars are lame

#

You can never make use of that power

civic spoke
#

@rough berry Defender was seen in Sweden. Registered here as well. Northern part of Stockholm.

fathom socket
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I won't fit in it

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It is so tiny

civic spoke
#

Won't or can't? Thonk

#

If it's a question of not wanting to fit. Then you don't have enough will.

rough berry
#

@rough berry Defender was seen in Sweden. Registered here as well. Northern part of Stockholm.
@civic spoke AH YES, SWEDEN

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I simp for Sweden uwu

civic spoke
#

I drive the pride of my country.

#

VOLVO

rough berry
#

YOU

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WOA

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Nice

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Which one?

civic spoke
#

FE350

rough berry
#

Oooooo

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Sweet

civic spoke
#

Guy got a taxi lap in the 620R for €99

dense shard
#

nice

stoic ledge
#

nice

flint sable
#

Still milking the Atlantic City show for car pics

civic spoke
#

Christ.

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Throw them in the gulag.

civic girder
#

Not a rotary? Banished

fathom socket
#

I've saw a Buick regatta for sale

indigo coral
#

ngl the Reatta is cool

fathom socket
#

It's cool looking

indigo coral
#

the screen thing is cool af

fathom socket
#

Compared to rest of cars that looks the same here in Europe

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Like literally

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Like there are 3 different car brands that make the same exact car

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Cars are so boring nowadays

dense shard
#

dunno, beats the 70s by far.

civic spoke
#

Man. The ideal G20 BMW 3 series isn't a thing fo rme.

#

Would want some of the fancier features. But I do. not. want. live. cockpit.

dense shard
#

That's the least of BMW's issues.

stoic ledge
#

Like there are 3 different car brands that make the same exact car
@fathom socket VAG == 4 times the same Pogey

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At least the PSA products (Peugeot, Citroen, DS, Opel) looks/feel/drive very similar, you wouldn't know they share a platform

#

In the interior, the only noticable similarities are the automatic shifter and the power windows switches

fathom socket
#

what about suzuki?

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and also

#

fiat tempra looks like nothing compared to Buick Reatta

#

I've mean thet tempra tried to look futuristic

stoic ledge
#

what about suzuki?
@fathom socket what's up with Suzuki?

fathom socket
#

the opel agila

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and Suzuki Wagon

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well

#

it doesn't even work

#

anymore

#

anbd I actually really like the Buick Reatta

#

but there is 1 huge drawback

#

4 speed automatic transition

#

I hate automatics

stoic ledge
#

and Suzuki Wagon
@fathom socket ah yes, that's like a 1 (2) time thing/rebadge

#

But that was only that model

civic girder
#

I hate automatics that suck

fathom socket
#

ok

#

but

stoic ledge
#

I hate automatics that suck

Ftfy

fathom socket
#

how does a car with 165 HP be slower than with 113 HP

civic girder
#

lmao

fathom socket
#

If I could put a manual in it

stoic ledge
#

Do it

civic girder
#

Automatics are fine, when built properly. Such as when they have proper gear ratios and a decent number of gears. Also nice when they shift smoothly and at proper times, as well as when the kickdown functions logically.

#

which oddly enough, an overwhelming majority of auto transmissions don't fit that category

fathom socket
#

I always diven manual

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or CVT

#

the one time I've driven automtic

#

I was terrified

#

it took ages to switch gears

civic girder
#

ah, a shitty auto

fathom socket
#

but I switch gears like a maniac

#

I accelerate like a maniac

#

idk

#

I just like switching gears fast

#

gotta know ur gear jutsu my man

#

I don't worry about the clutch

#

it's gonna to outlast the engine for sure

#

but I think ford focus was fun enough for me to drive

#

held on the corners pretty well

#

but I tink I need a car for cornering

#

and the mx5 is out of the qestion

civic girder
#

why no MX-5?

stoic ledge
#

He's too tall

indigo coral
#

The mx5 is honestly too small

civic girder
#

ah

indigo coral
#

I've driven one and never want to again

#

It corners well but it's just miniscule

civic girder
#

I'd recommend something like an RX-7 or MR2 instead then

#

earlier Z cars, like Z32 and earlier, also corner pretty well

indigo coral
#

I'm tall & fat so the Miata is just too tiny

civic girder
#

Civic hatches and coupes also handle well, if you'd prefer FWD camp

indigo coral
#

(also, unpopular opinion time, I think it's not especially good looking)

civic girder
#

I think the Miata is sexy af

#

and they handle amazing

#

but way too fucking small

indigo coral
#

It's not downright ugly (see; Chevy Aveo) it's just kinda meh

#

I have an irrational hatred for the aveo

civic girder
#

The Aveo is just garbage lmao

#

they look meh, but underneath are literal trash

stoic ledge
#

Well it's a Daewoo lol

indigo coral
#

This thing

#

I hate it

#

So mucb

civic girder
#

wasn't there a sedan model too

indigo coral
#

Idk

civic girder
#

I've literally never seen those hatches, ever

stoic ledge
#

Yes

#

Hatch and sedan

#

Yes

#

But like, 2 gens after the Kadett got discontinued

#

Nexia?

#

I think that was it

#

Yes it was

#

Pontiac LeMans KEKW

dense shard
#

Trick to driving automatic is take it easy

stoic ledge
#

I can't

dense shard
#

you can

indigo coral
#

you don't have to take it easy, just know how the car behaves

dense shard
#

Either way. Not hard to work with.

dense shard
#

1 million views.

#

Either there are a lot of bored people...

#

I'm actually getting a bit queasy with the camera pan.

indigo coral
#

If you need a video for how to start the car, you shouldn't be driving lol.

civic girder
#

That's the kind of shit I'd watch just for fun

dense shard
civic girder
#

And to learn tips or tricks I might not know

dense shard
#

Since some people have issues with automatic transmissions.

civic girder
#

also, that Toyota button has literally not changed in over 15 years

dense shard
#

If it works, it works.

civic girder
#

the 2nd gen Prius has an identical button

dense shard
#

I think my Corolla button is different.

#

Slightly different shape.

civic girder
#

it just has different writing lol

dense shard
#

oh yeah, I see it now.

#

Eh, if it works it works.

civic girder
#

that's the best pic I have of the button, iirc

dense shard
#

I'm not going downstairs to take a picture of my car.

#

Shape looks the same enough.

civic girder
dense shard
#

ngl

#

I wish my car had a sport button.

#

... I should wire one in.

#

It'll just light up. Nothing else.

#

Toyota Entune l Scout GPS Link | Toyota

#

The comments are universally: "This is the worst thing ever."

civic girder
#

My sport button is hearing the choke knob disengage

#

which means I can stop short shifting at 3k and start shifting normally

#

and by that, I mean follow max mpg shift points

#

but then after driving around normally a little, i t s r e d l i n e t i m e

fathom socket
#

The Prindl?

#

What's this about the Prindl

dense shard
#

what

fathom socket
#

The Prindl stick

dense shard
#

That being?

fathom socket
#

The automatic gear knob

dense shard
#

What about it?

fathom socket
#

It was a reference

dense shard
#

Yeah I missed it.

fathom socket
#

Let's turn on the radio

#

Would you like AM OR FM

devout atlas
#

drive auto-stick

#

by pretending that you're 63

proven garden
indigo coral
fathom socket
#

I've expected that

stoic ledge
#

Same Pogey

devout atlas
#

I don't know what to expect anymore

#

nothing matters

#

there's nothing new

stoic ledge
#

there's nothing new
@devout atlas no new p a n t h e r body?

devout atlas
#

yes, no new panther bodies

#

the koegnigsegg CCX is basically a mercury marauder though

warm sparrow
#

Hi guys

warm sparrow
#

I think we have some mecanis here so I have a lil question

#

Do you think that the facom lithium grease is good for bearings installation?

#

(for MTB bearings here)

#

;-;

devout atlas
#

sure

#

i actually don't know

warm sparrow
#

😞

#

thanks dude

stoic ledge
#

I don't know either Pogey

stoic ledge
#

Yes

#

👀

civic spoke
#

Just saw a Honda E

fathom socket
#

I have a set of tires that costed me 11 euros

#

they are crap

#

but they hold the car on th read

civic girder
#

I use high temp bearing grease when I pack bearings

fathom socket
#

11 euros for a set of tyres?

civic spoke
#

Sounds like terrible tires.

#

Unless they were old dried out tires with no thread.

civic spoke
#

It just dawned on me.

#

Basically no one will be able to redline the Koenigsegg Regera while driving.

civic spoke
#

The nice thing about parking the truck locally. I save 8 gallons a week (30 liters).

stoic ledge
devout atlas
#

I have been blessed

#

god bless

fathom socket
fathom socket
#

This tires had 7mm of thread left

#

Some crappy 175/65 r14 all sezon economy tires

dense shard
#

time for new tires?

stoic ledge
#

For €11... Probably

fathom socket
#

They still have thread

#

I just put them because my winter tires were already worn down

#

Basically polish made tires

#

They are cheap by them selfs

#

But 14 inch rims

#

If 18 inches is considered poor spec

#

These tires are very noisy

#

No wonder nobody wanted them

#

An insanely Dumb question Does anybody have the wiring diagram for the Ferrari f430

dense shard
#

I doubt it.

fathom socket
#

Ye that thing is insanely rare and i need it

dense shard
#

Contact Ferrari.

fathom socket
#

Are ya crazy they wont give you anything no matter what they will just tell you to go to an Ferrari service and the nearest one to Tenerife is 1400 km away

frank tundra
#

i today, made the decision to coyote swap my 03 gt LUL

#

bought a gen3 out of a totaled 19' GT

fathom socket
#

Noice

frank tundra
#

the 4.6 is too expensive to get power out of

#

wouldn't have been worth it

#

500hp coyote working condition motor for 8k cad was a good deal to toss in it

fathom socket
#

i bet all you jeep wrangler owners feel pretty dumb right now

dense shard
#

They're feeling pretty smart.

#

It's a Jeep Thing™️.

fathom socket
sacred wraith
#

yo there's a car channel? don't mind if I do

fathom socket
#

Nice bike

sacred wraith
#

it's a 2020 Kawasaki KLX 140G

fathom socket
#

Saw you in other channel btw

sacred wraith
#

sweet

fathom socket
#

Yep

#

Lol I cant balance on them bikes

sacred wraith
#

there's a learning curve to them for sure

#

Even having experience with a manual transmission car, I still took thirty minutes to leave my driveway for the first time

civic girder
#

what

charred depot
#

gets annoying taking this road with people making no attempt to keep left having their wing mirrors over the line

civic girder
#

Took me multiple watches to see what you meant

#

I can't count how many times I've used my horn

#

most recent usage was because it looked like someone was about to cut in front of me

#

then that person got all pissed off for some reason and gave me the stink eye out their window as they blew by me at 20 over the limit while laying on their horn

charred depot
#

Busses can use the road in my video by the way

civic girder
#

like, you pulled out into the middle of the road and it looked like you were about to try and jump it and my brakes are shit, I was just making sure you knew I was there. Didn't have to be such a dick about it

charred depot
#

the government wont widen the road but will build a massive cyclepath next to it that barely gets used

#

id say people here more use the high beam flash than the horn

civic girder
#

widening a road is a pain in the dick

#

lane closures are so god damn annoying

#

everyone hates it, and the government knows it

charred depot
#

there is actually a detour to avoid this road which is a tiny bit longer

#

its really not that much longer

civic girder
#

I take a detour on the way home to avoid a really shitty intersection.

#

Same intersection I rear ended somebody in

#

psychological trauma, and the detour is more fun

#

Personally I'd take the detour if I were you. Better than waking up in a hospital with no idea how you got there

charred depot
civic girder
#

Yea, just take the red lol

#

if it really sketches you out that much anyway

#

I'd have to drive it myself to really know

charred depot
#

I enjoy the backroads most people keep left as much as they can

civic girder
#

here, what you would call a "backroad" is a glorified gravel road

#

aka, its paved, but its so deteriorated that your butt thinks it was paved 4 centuries ago

charred depot
#

some of our backroads and arterial roads dont have much between them

#

this is a arterial road which the government doesent want to make a dual carriageway for some reason

civic girder
#

god damn

charred depot
#

fortunetely for me where i join and leave there is roundabouts

civic girder
#

Americans don't know how to roundabout

charred depot
#

at rush hour i dont know how long youd be waiting to get out at a T junction

civic girder
#

I know that pain

#

welcome to the US, where everything is a T junction lmfao

charred depot
#

everything is a roundabout in my town

#

I take more roundabouts than I do "normal junctions" going to university

#

we have massive ones all the way down to little painted circles

civic girder
#

yea, in the US, if you're not careful you'll get t-boned and/or sideswiped when trying to use a roundabout

charred depot
#

with hopes and dreams of people not driving straight over them

civic girder
#

People love to whip around roundabouts as fast as they can

charred depot
#

on the 2 lane ones here people like to cut across both lanes going straight

civic girder
#

sounds about right

#

accident waiting to happen

charred depot
#

they also have a dedicated cycle path about 50m away from the road

#

what he is doing is completely legal and some people are too scared to path them closely

civic spoke
#

That reminds me of a a road that Google Maps wants you to take, instead of the 'longer' and straighter way.

#

Above road is a slower road most of the time. And trucks aren't allowed in there because of how narrow it is.

wild tiger
#

Vs the 21 stock

civic spoke
#

And here I have 16 gallons.

indigo coral
#

I have 17.2 and get 17mpg lol

civic spoke
#

I think the truck is almost 80 gallons? starGorbo

stoic ledge
#

Oof

devout atlas
#

nice

fathom socket
#

Idgi

ember moat
fathom socket
#

What's that supposed to be

#

Cool Scirocco

ember moat
#

Thx

fathom socket
#

I mean golf

#

Sorry

ember moat
rustic lotus
#

Ho

#

Hi

devout atlas
#

mhmm

#

Carb

fathom socket
#

@turbid onyx scirocco in skyline status?

#

pfft in your dreams

#

they are just fancier golfs

#

oh

#

oh yea

#

right

#

I thought you meant the scirocco was in the same status as a skyline

#

lmao

stoic ledge
#

Pogey 😂

tight cypress
devout atlas
#

I don't have a car doe?

#

what did he port?

civic girder
#

cylinders are a myth