cars

[charred depot]

what tis what

[gaunt prism]

your car

[charred depot]

Mazda 2 2010 Takuya

with all options :^)

[dense shard]

nice

[stoic ledge]

Oof

[dense shard]

Tho Mazdas of that era are known to rust.

Classic Ford QC.

[gaunt prism]

Its a fiesta

[dense shard]

It took em a few years to get away from that.

[charred depot]

I cant really blame the manufacturer when the previous owner did delete the frontend

[gaunt prism]

Ford have always been bad for rust

[stoic ledge]

Mazda even worse

[dense shard]

Actually I think that year of Mazda was a mazda product.

[gaunt prism]

No

Ford got out of mazda in 2015

[charred depot]

At some point it was in a crash where the front end was damaged so much it broke the water pump on the engine

[tidal hemlock]

pushups

[gaunt prism]

mazda 2 on 2012 is ford

[dense shard]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_Demio

More accurate to say Ford is on a Mazda platform.

[civic spoke]

The most expensive 118i you can spec out is close to €45,000

[dense shard]

more or less

[tidal hemlock]

[dense shard]

But the Mazda 2 of that era had a few design changes that made it unique.

[tidal hemlock]

that rx-7?

[charred depot]

pretty sure the mazda 2 has bigger headlights heh

[civic spoke]

lmao. You can really just change out the big spec 118i for a M135i

Base M135i is cheaper than the maxed 118i

[dense shard]

I'll take a loaded Japanese hatchback over whatever budget car Audi or Mercedes offer.

[charred depot]

Our 2001 honda civic old green (but really blue) has survived the rust really well and generally been a painless experience

[dense shard]

At least I don't need to pay extra for a glove box.

(totally unbiased, not like I own a Toyota)

[civic spoke]

Tbh. A loaded car with a basic engine is probably more nice than one with just a big engine.

[gaunt prism]

Dunno

Depends what you want out of it

I prefer speed more than i prefer leather seats

[charred depot]

You're mad and possibly selfish to own a large car here without a good reason

[dense shard]

I get more than enough speed out of my hatchback.

[charred depot]

2 mazda 2's can pass on a single track road just fine

[stoic ledge]

@civic spoke fully loaded 118i here is €56.403

[gaunt prism]

I believe that you buy a car for a reason, Some people want to spend minimal amounts on fuel some people want to go fast.

Thats alot for a 1 series

[charred depot]

The parking by the uni kids that somehow have got themselfs a range rover

[dense shard]

I had plenty of reasons.

Ultimately... The Corolla proved to be the best choice of the cars I was looking at.

[gaunt prism]

I think i wouldve gone with focus but thats a preference thing

Dont like japs

[charred depot]

I was just looking for anything but a vauxhall corsa or a fiesta, and insurance was super cheap on a mazda 2

[dense shard]

japs

Let's try to avoid using that term.

[stoic ledge]

Corsa best car

[gaunt prism]

Yea i thought that when saying it 😛 but i think people know what i mean

[dense shard]

And the Focus was kinda old by the time I was looking to buy a car. Nevermind we never got the new Focus here in the US.

[charred depot]

For a 17 year old trying to get car insurance the choice of car is quite important

[gaunt prism]

oh wow

[charred depot]

I was able to get insurance on my 2 for £900/y with no black box

[dense shard]

That's not bad.

[charred depot]

incl breakdown

[stoic ledge]

Not too shabby

[charred depot]

cheapest i saw out of the like 30 cars i quoted

funny thing a ~2009 ish i think Subaru WRX hatchback is cheaper to insure than a 2001 Honda Civic

[gaunt prism]

Newer card tend to go down, more saftey

Not only for passengers but things like plastic bonnet

[dense shard]

or aluminum.

[gaunt prism]

Makes it less likely to have to pay for life time medical bill

Theres even certain specs they have to make the bumper to, as in height and such

[charred depot]

The Honda has been hit so many fucking times my parents are too nice to claim off peoples insurance and just take like £50 off them to do the old hammer and touch up paint which is not the correct colour

i need to get a photo of the rear bumper

[dense shard]

If it works, it works.

[silk gate]

talking about insurance

usa insurance

[indigo coral]

I like Lexus

[dense shard]

very nice

[indigo coral]

I hope I get to drive the 2007

Would be fun to have a car a bit newer + better controlled body dynamics + more power

[dense shard]

I hear that.

I'm still waiting on the Corolla GR to make a debut before I make a decision.

[indigo coral]

My '99 body rolls ..a lot

Lol

The suspension is kind of archaic

The 07 is a lot better controlled and rides softer.

[stoic ledge]

[viral matrix]

[normal temple]

Nice GTI, I just have a shitty mk4

P r e t t y s h i t

[viral matrix]

Not my gti though

[civic spoke]

I could honestly do with a VW Polo GTI. tbh

[viral matrix]

This is the performance pack gti

[gaunt prism]

I really want to try a GTE

[stoic ledge]

No you don't

I've driven one, it's meh

It has like 30km/20 miles of EV range, in which it's fast

After that it's just an 1.4 TSI with more weight, meaning it's slower, drives worse and uses quite a lot more fuel

Wait you're talking about ?

[gaunt prism]

Are they TSI with Electric assistance?

[stoic ledge]

Are they TSI with Electric assistance?
Yes it's a 1.4 TSI with an 60-70hp Electric motor added

And uhm, can mean basically everything from nice, wow, cool, lol, to wtf, etc

Idk how to explain it haha

[gaunt prism]

I thought they were full electric

Yea i think im getting them both mixed up or i assumed the GTE was a GTI version of the e-golf

Thats the one i want to try

[stoic ledge]

No the Golf GTE is a PHEV

[gaunt prism]

Wouldnt mind a go in a model s, dont think that will happen for a while.

Good idea lol

[dense shard]

Why not a Hyundai Kona or Niro?

I honestly wouldn't trust the Germans or Italians to do EVs. Especially since VW has/had/will have issues with getting their software to work on various things.

Hell the new Golf was delayed several months due to software bugs.

My condolences? Italians cars don't have a good reputation in the US.

[indigo coral]

idk I'd buy an Alfa Romeo

[dense shard]

If they work in your part of the world, power to you.

Fiat's triumphant return to the US proved to be more of a quiet fart in an auditorium. Their best selling product in the US is probably the Jeep Renegade.

[indigo coral]

The Guilia/Stelvio are awesome

[dense shard]

ah, that explains where you live.

And the PFP. lol

[indigo coral]

I'd consider a Guilia Quad instead of a G70 if they stay at least moderately reliable

[dense shard]

It really didn't help them tbh.

[stoic ledge]

No, US spec is build in Mexico

TwinAir

[dense shard]

Mexico built should be a hit against automakers, but that seems to only apply to the Europeans.

I don't remember Ford or Mazda having build quality issues.

[stoic ledge]

Europe has the TwinAir

Yes

[dense shard]

Well Ford does...

[indigo coral]

I'd love to have something like a Guilia tbh

[stoic ledge]

1.0 "Hybrid" now

I'd love to have something like a Guilia tbh
Same

[dense shard]

... ngl. I actually avoided Made in Mexico cars.

[indigo coral]

The interior is nice and it's said to drive amazingly

damn that would be fun

I can't even get my hands on a G70 to test drive, much less a Guilia Quad

Still would be fun

I've never really driven a sports car

the most uhh dynamically endowed car I've driven is a Model 3

[stoic ledge]

I'd like a 280hp Q4 Veloce. That's enough for me. I'm a humble guy

[indigo coral]

and it was only the LR RWD

[stoic ledge]

[dense shard]

Sportiest car I've driven... uhhhh... friend's modified Galant.

[indigo coral]

I'd say 2nd best car in terms of sportiness is probably our SHO

[dense shard]

It was making 250 at that time.

[stoic ledge]

I've driven an Alpine A110

Very fun car

[indigo coral]

ngl it was more fun to drive the SHO than the Model 3

the SHO is faster & feels more fun because you get to rev it out and shift up etc etc

vs the Model 3 LR RWD

[stoic ledge]

Oof

What happened

Ah

Nice

Nice

Oof haha

Yeah I recognized them

And a Dodge Journey Fiat Freemont besides you

😂

I've seen one with those wheels actually

I think that's the base trim here tbh

On the diesel I think

Lemme check

Yeah well our cars are initially taxed by CO2 emissions

So company cars often sometimes had those wheels, yeah

Oof haha

I don't see them in the configurator anymore

[dense shard]

I'm just sad the US doesn't get a manual version.

[stoic ledge]

I would

But I don't buy them new, so nobody listens to me

I want one

Can never afford one

Oof

Yeah well the ZF 8HP is also a great transmission

[civic spoke]

I remember hearing that the manual Gulia was pretty bad.

Oh, crap. Let me find this tweet.

[tight cypress]

hmh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvNdZ_h7DLg

frend bought new toy

[civic spoke]

https://twitter.com/TaranVH/status/1276401553511981056

Taran Quarantino (@TaranVH)

I just learned that left foot braking is considered hazardous by some, which is absurd to me. I've always driven that way. At least I'm not alone. https://t.co/NnYfGuhAtf

Twitter

[dense shard]

oh no

ooohhhhhhh no no no no

Taran, c'mon man.

Just because you've always driven that way doesn't make it right.

[stoic ledge]

I still don't like the feeling of torque converter autos though
Torque converter > every other auto

https://twitter.com/TaranVH/status/1276401553511981056
Reeeeeeeeeeeeee

Taran Quarantino (@TaranVH)

I just learned that left foot braking is considered hazardous by some, which is absurd to me. I've always driven that way. At least I'm not alone. https://t.co/NnYfGuhAtf

Twitter

But they're sooo slow

But then I'd rather shift gears myself lol

[fair bronze]

Same tbh

Why should I need a robot to do something for me when it takes so much satisfaction away

I don't hate automatics btw but I just really like shifting myself

My main issue is when the box doesn't do what I want it to do

And it has to think or prepare when I could've done a better job myself

lol

So basically like an F1 driver

Italian electronics 👌

[dense shard]

I'm not a fan of clutch based automatics.

If it's gonna shift itself, give me a torque converter.

[gaunt prism]

But they're sooo slow
@stoic ledge You ever tried dsg?

Uhm...... mutlitronic iirc

It depends. Dsg has a manual mode.

What do you mean by creeping?

Where an auto moves without throttle?

No multitronic is CVT.

Didnt notice alot of creep in DSG. yea i was correcting myself 🙂

Vauxhall use a semi auto box, one clutch. cant remember the name

Easytronic

Yes, audis DSG is called s-tronic

The best box i can rememeber driving was a cvt box in a juke nismo

Is salespeed dual clutch?

SMG is dual clutch iirc, might be wrong there

or am i thinking smt

Why did i think that then lol

[stoic ledge]

@stoic ledge You ever tried dsg?
@gaunt prism yes, but he wasn't talking about those

SMG is single clutch, the BMW dual clutch is called DKG
@turbid onyx DCT no?

No fan of the DSG as well, to jerky of the line and it shifts waaaaay to much

Press the accelerator 0.2°
Car: lemme drop 3 gears

Never seen the DKG name before

[gaunt prism]

Im still confused about why i thought SMG was Dual clutch haha

[stoic ledge]

Im still confused about why i thought SMG was Dual clutch haha
@gaunt prism no it was single clutch

And I'm trying to find out more about DKG 👀

[gaunt prism]

I just sold my e92, I was looking for a dual clutch glad i didnt buy SMG thinking it was,

Possibly

[stoic ledge]

Doppel Kopplungs Getriebe

D.K.G

👀

Ah, DKG is a modified DCT gearbox for M cars

In regular cars the just called it DCT

SMG is Sequential Manual Gearbox

DCT is the general term yes, But if you configure a car it's actually listed as DCT as well

[gaunt prism]

Interesting, i dont think ive seen a DCT BM

[stoic ledge]

1er, 2er

All the 7sp

[gaunt prism]

Ever tried a CVT box?

[stoic ledge]

Yes

Horrible

[gaunt prism]

I loved that thing lol

What one?

It is weird but you can plant the throttle, it goes up to 4k rpm and stays there while ramping up the speed.

[stoic ledge]

Uhm Prius, Mondeo Hybrid and a Jazz

And maybe something else I can't remember

[gaunt prism]

ahh jazz with the button on the sterring wheel

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I don't like it either

[gaunt prism]

Havnt tried a ford one.

[stoic ledge]

Think the Mondeo Hybrid is one of the few in Europe, if not the only one

Ford's drive quite well

[gaunt prism]

Oh i owned a mondeo ST

I have seen ford CVT but never driven one.

[stoic ledge]

I've driven too many cars, yet I'm still on my first car lol

Well I take it easy as well, but I just like driving other cars

I want to drive as many different cars as possible

Idk why

But I like to experience them

[fathom socket]

@fathom socket No, not really you have to change compression ratios and such, to make a diesel run on LPG you need to make it run on petrol first.
@gaunt prism
You can run old 6 cylinder diesel Mercs on petrol

Like I said you have to modify the head to make it run on LPG anyways

Or use a mix of Diesel and LPG

[gaunt prism]

Yea, technically its possible but the amount of work that goes into it, you would be better off changing the engine.

[fathom socket]

Some obscene LPG company experimented on using a mix of LPG and Diesel

I've heard that Diesels can run on CNG

[gaunt prism]

Not sure you could really mix them

[fathom socket]

That's why I said "Technically"

There was a method

Called fumigating or something

finally

it uploaded

Also most cars I with LPGs are old and slow cars

Some new stuff too but mostly old

is focus st slow?

It's meh

I wouldn't consider it slow

every single one I saw in poland it had LPG installation

But I can see someone installing an LPG system inside it

Mostly cars of cheaper categories

lamborgini with LPG

That's dumb

You don't even have any space to put your luggage

that would be fun to watch

[gaunt prism]

I disagree with that too, at least here. People use LPG on larger engines.

[fathom socket]

Where the fuck are going to fit the tank

hmm

[gaunt prism]

Larger engines tend to be in more expensive cars.

[fathom socket]

Well the most expensive car Ive seen with LPG

in passager seat

Was a cayenne

An old one

the most expensive car I've seen with LPG was a Dacia duster

[gaunt prism]

Probably just here then

[fathom socket]

The focus st is more expensive

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

the first gen focus st?

[stoic ledge]

I've seen S-class on LPG

[fathom socket]

it's worth less

than that

Newer S class?

Or old ones

[stoic ledge]

But also many pickup trucks

[fathom socket]

but actually

Because old S classes are now worthless cars

[stoic ledge]

Uhm it was the latest gen at the time, now previous

[fathom socket]

Especially early 2000s and late 90s

I've seen LPG in a truck

An S class from the 90s

If you've got a couple of warning lights

4 banger that's 4 liters

[gaunt prism]

Where are you from?

[fathom socket]

That car is worth negative

Turkey

[stoic ledge]

W221 generation

[gaunt prism]

ahh

[fathom socket]

Idk my merc gens

[stoic ledge]

And you live in Turkey? 👀

Impossible

[fathom socket]

Why would it be impossible?

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[gaunt prism]

S class starts with W thats all i remember

[fathom socket]

That doesn't answer my question

Is W221 the one with the square headlights?

[tight cypress]

no

[stoic ledge]

No it's like the 2010

[tight cypress]

w221 got triangle headlights

[fathom socket]

God I hate new mercs

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

Especially the crossover SUVs

Im okay with the E class and the mid 2010 C class

[stoic ledge]

I just hate cross-over SUVs

[gaunt prism]

221 is 2007-2013

[tight cypress]

i just hate new cars in general

[fathom socket]

Why the fuck would you buy a crossover SUV anyways

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[fathom socket]

Hopeless offroad

Shit centre of gravity

Shit handling

[tight cypress]

even a coupe can offroad

better

[fathom socket]

Just big for the purpose of being big

[stoic ledge]

Most people with LPG use toroidal tanks in place of the spare wheel
@turbid onyx that's what I have, yes

[fathom socket]

And sometimes they aren't even that bigger than a hatchback

Just higher

[stoic ledge]

That's exactly what a CUV is

[gaunt prism]

imo if you want to go off road get a land rover

[tight cypress]

@stoic ledge aint it beatiful

[stoic ledge]

No

[fathom socket]

Is that an opel

[tight cypress]

how dare you disrespect it

its mazda

[gaunt prism]

maybe even a land cruiser

[stoic ledge]

Mazda no?

[fathom socket]

323?

[tight cypress]

maybe

cant remember

[stoic ledge]

Looks like it

[fathom socket]

1.6?

GT?

[tight cypress]

how would i know

aint mine

[stoic ledge]

Surprised it's not rusted away

[fathom socket]

FI?

[tight cypress]

but that think doesnt have seatbelts

[fathom socket]

Yea lmao

[tight cypress]

spid

[fathom socket]

323s rust away like crazy

Or just Mazda's from that era

In general

[stoic ledge]

Must be the la best survivor in the world

[tight cypress]

DIY

the owner drove 30km with that

[fathom socket]

Do you know how hard it is to find a 323 GT-X that hasn't been rotted away

[tight cypress]

and it was raining

[stoic ledge]

Ah did the roof rust away?

[fathom socket]

Lol goodbye electronics

[stoic ledge]

Classic

[tight cypress]

goodbye electonics yes

goodbye safety

[fathom socket]

As if a 323 is safe

[tight cypress]

hmh

100kmh without seatbelts

[fathom socket]

That just means it can reach 100kmh

[tight cypress]

lol

[fathom socket]

Not that it's safe

I bet the chassis flex on that thing is real

With the roof off

[tight cypress]

beater

[gaunt prism]

What year is that? seatbelts have been mandotory here from like 82

[fathom socket]

They probably removed them

Because I'm pretty sure all 323s came with seatbelts

[gaunt prism]

Its got seatbelts in it actually

Look through roof at passenger side

[fathom socket]

Yea your guts that spill after you crash

That is your seatbelt

[versed oasis]

The best project car in my opinion is a Mazda Miata with mods that include epic air filter new spark plugs and injector and headers and a suspension upgrade/ exhaust upgrade

[tight cypress]

removed.

it doesnt have seatbelts anymore

[fathom socket]

Why would you install injectors on a naturally aspirated miata

[gaunt prism]

ohh

[tight cypress]

but this car was still ass

gearbox didnt last at all

[gaunt prism]

Why would you remove seatbelt? confused

[versed oasis]

Because cheese

[tight cypress]

seatbelts @gaunt prism

[fathom socket]

It's not like the injectors are bottlenecking the engine

[tight cypress]

all useless removed

expect dash

[gaunt prism]

wouldnt call seatbelts useless lol

[tight cypress]

ask the owner

not sure why he removed em

but not my problem if he dies in that beater

[gaunt prism]

I i start to drive like a dick i put my seatbelt on.

[fathom socket]

@versed oasis Get something like a Saxo

[tight cypress]

that mazda is already an deathtrap so eh

[fathom socket]

Almost better in every way except for reliability

And mod support

[gaunt prism]

Not that that has airbags but no seatbelt, no airbags

[stoic ledge]

No seatbelt == faster to jump out of

[tight cypress]

exactly

[gaunt prism]

lol

[tight cypress]

who nees airbags anyway

[fathom socket]

You are free to bask in the sun standing up in your car

As you have no seat belt to worry about

[tight cypress]

yes

you can drive from passenger side if ya want to

[fathom socket]

You can't wear your seatbelt if you don't have one

So the police can't pull you over

[tight cypress]

yes

[gaunt prism]

Thats not how it works here

[tight cypress]

idk

[fathom socket]

What they give you a seatbelt?

[tight cypress]

police wouldnt even notice

[gaunt prism]

They would take you car.

[fathom socket]

Ofc it doesn't work like that in any country

[tight cypress]

they only watch for mopeds

[gaunt prism]

Not fit for the road

[tight cypress]

take your car?

not in finland

[gaunt prism]

Yes

[tight cypress]

only fine or take ya license

but you would keep the car

[fathom socket]

If you don't have a seatbelt installed you can't pass MOT anyways

Or whatever is the equivalent in other countries

[tight cypress]

my brain thinkin what is MOT anyways

[gaunt prism]

Road standards test

[tight cypress]

ah yes an tv progam

i see

[stoic ledge]

APK

[fathom socket]

Ours is just called a check up

[tight cypress]

dunno what it is here

[fathom socket]

When I was a kid I thought that was like a warranty

[stoic ledge]

Kek

[tight cypress]

kek

[fathom socket]

Or some kind of doctor stuff

[tight cypress]

doctor stuff

[stoic ledge]

Well for some people it's maintenance

[tight cypress]

lmao

[fathom socket]

Also you can't be fined for not having an MOT if you don't get pulled over

[gaunt prism]

MOTs are so messed up here though. It can fail on a missing wheel nut. The tester can watch you go outside put a wheel trim/hub cap on, hes not allowed to take it off to check the wheel nut.

[civic girder]

oh shid, tomorrow is Jul 1. Time to remove my front license plate

[gaunt prism]

Police here use ANPR so the police cars will ping if you dont have MOT

[tight cypress]

why

[gaunt prism]

Its the rules

[tight cypress]

to remove front license plate

[fathom socket]

I mean a missing wheel nut is a fail anyways

[gaunt prism]

Not allowed to disassemble

[civic girder]

Ohio?
@turbid onyx yessir

[fathom socket]

That's stupid

Why aren't they allowed to disassemble

[gaunt prism]

Yea i agree

[fathom socket]

How are they going to check the brakes if the car has steelies

[stoic ledge]

MOTs are so messed up here though. It can fail on a missing wheel nut. The tester can watch you go outside put a wheel trim/hub cap on, hes not allowed to take it off to check the wheel nut.
@gaunt prism tbh I'd rather not drive around without a wheel nut

[gaunt prism]

Me too

[tight cypress]

beauty

[fathom socket]

The only time you can drive with a wheel nut missing from every wheel is when you are getting the spare out

And drop your wheelnuts to the sewer

@tight cypress Fiat 131 or Lada 2107

[tight cypress]

lada

[fathom socket]

Or a Murat 131

Depending on the country

[tight cypress]

no 🅱️iats here

[fathom socket]

And the manufacturer

[tight cypress]

and wth is murat

[stoic ledge]

That's never the Fiat

[tight cypress]

[fathom socket]

@tight cypress it's a Tofaş

[stoic ledge]

It looked nothing like that

[tight cypress]

ah yes

[fathom socket]

That's a Turkish car manufacturer

[stoic ledge]

Fiat was waaaaay nicer, better etc

[fathom socket]

Under Fiat

[tight cypress]

sounds polish but idk

lada best

[fathom socket]

125 is the rear engined one

You mean the 124

[stoic ledge]

It's 124

[fathom socket]

Ye

[stoic ledge]

But they were basically completely different

[fathom socket]

And the eagea

Or whatever it's called

Thats not too different than a 131

Tbh

Just an older one

And no the 2107 is a 124

Not a 125

Which is not too different than a 125 anyways

[tight cypress]

fug

damn pics that wont work

ah yes kadett

[fathom socket]

Oliver

[gaunt prism]

lol they get top gear in turkey?

[fathom socket]

We used to

Idk if we still do

After the Clarkson debacle

[gaunt prism]

Not worth watching since those 3 quit/got sacked anyway.

[fathom socket]

But I sometimes see the monthly issues

In stores

I like the Ascona B

Especially the 400

[gaunt prism]

Hmmm pretty sure thats a cavilier

or thats the what they named them here

[stoic ledge]

I recently took this amazing pic of the last Lancia sold here

This image quality is amazing

It deserves to be ik magazines

The best Lancia ever

[tight cypress]

hmh yes

i can totally see it

[stoic ledge]

It may or may not be a 300C with a diesel in the front

Literally 0 expense

Lancia only has the Ypsilon left in Italy only... Maybe soon a new one on the new 500?

Oof

OOF

How

It's sold nowhere else in the world, but 2nd best in Italy

That's amazing

Yeah I figured

Are thing still going to sell the old 500 besides the new 500e?

Ah then it makes sense

Tipo sales are virtually none here, since it's taxed too heavily since the emissions are quite high

So where it should be quite affordable, it's just as expensive as a Focus or something

Yeah Hybrid might help

With Turbo?

Oof

Because the 1.4 N/A is too weak

You want the 1.4 Turbo

If they can get the price down of the 1.4 Turbo with 48V mild hybrid system, I think it will sell well

It's a nice looking car

It needs at least the 120hp from the 1.4T

Oof

[gaunt prism]

our 1.0 3 cyl fiesta can get 150+

[stoic ledge]

Yes pls

[gaunt prism]

with turbo

Maybe slight exaggeration.....140bhp

Didnt know the ford GT used a 3.5 ecoboost

[stoic ledge]

Yeah it does

[gaunt prism]

650bhp

Not bad for a 3.5

[dense shard]

what?

Not in the US.

oh wait... GT, not mustang. oops

[stoic ledge]

Good Monte, good

[gaunt prism]

twin turbo v6

[dense shard]

I'm playing Deus Ex.

[stoic ledge]

[gaunt prism]

Mustangs have 2.0 ecoboost here

I think they do a 5.0 but not seen one yet

[dense shard]

This car tho

A dad-er sight has never been seen.

[stoic ledge]

Best Lancia

Mustangs have 2.0 ecoboost here
@gaunt prism 2.3*

And GT 5.0

[gaunt prism]

Just noticed, they used to be 2.0

although im thinking i might be wrong there, cant seem to find power figures for it

apparently they can get the 2.3 up to 550

[fathom socket]

isnt that pretty close to the 5.0

[gaunt prism]

460 stock i think

[fathom socket]

thats pretty impressive

[dense shard]

Apparently enough power to ruin the manual transmission.

[carmine summit]

The 8 speed auto can handle like 850 wheel with drag radials apparently, which is pretty impressive

[dense shard]

I thought the Mustang only has a 10 speed auto option?

[heady ridge]

Fuel filter after 10 years apprently and 8 liters of water in the tank (the new one is beside it)

[fleet gust]

54 years old

[fleet gust]

looks like someone used the old "shoot air into the fuel line to blow the sock apart" trick

[stoic ledge]

Dorito go brrr

[civic girder]

Ye

July 1 so I can finally run no front plate

I also snapped one of the bolts on the mount trying to get it off, so there's no going back either lmao. I'll have to get a new mount if they ever reinstate the front plate

[civic spoke]

You get used to front plates. It's better if they are designed with one in mind.

[stoic ledge]

classic

[severe tree]

Alright, which of you did this?

[stoic ledge]

No.

@dense shard Rav-4 with Suzuki nose and badges

[frank tundra]

not having a front plate is illegal in bc, but rcmp seems to be blind cause i havent had a front plate in over a year and my mustang has not once been cited for it

even got pulled over once for something else, cop looked at the front and didnt say anything about th eno front late

[civic girder]

Ye

My state passed a law last year that went into effect today

I wonder if my fuel economy will go up

Maybe by like .2 at best lmao

[stoic ledge]

Oof

I love the Alfa gauges with Benzina and Acqua

[civic girder]

Idk, there's a real chance yeeting the front plate could yield a minor increase in fuel economy. Thinking about the aerodynamics, the plate would cause drag because it interferes with the shape of the body. Its not like a more modern car where it's mounted on the bumper with a nicely shaped mount. This was just a metal bracket that wrapped around to stick up

Idk, there's a real chance yeeting the front plate could yield a minor increase in fuel economy. Thinking about the aerodynamics, the plate would cause drag because it interferes with the shape of the body. Its not like a more modern car where it's mounted on the bumper with a nicely shaped mount. This was just a metal bracket that wrapped around to stick up

[stoic ledge]

In my car it would exactly 0.0 difference, since the bumper is designed to hold a plate at any time

[frank tundra]

people really dont like drilling holes in their bumpers

so some people ive seen

duct tape their plate on

for cars where theirs no other way

but to drill it in

[civic girder]

Yea, it would make no difference on the Prius either. Actually designed to have the front plate mounted to the bumper

I guess I'll find out if it makes a difference on the RX-7 after a fuel stop or too

[frank tundra]

dodge gave me this holster thing when i bought my jeep and hellcat

[devout atlas]

dodge gave me this holster thing when i bought my jeep and hellcat
@frank tundra fiat

[frank tundra]

except the dealership decided to drill a hole in my srts front bumper anyways

[stoic ledge]

Quite certain mine is drilled in to place

[frank tundra]

I like BC's plates tho

so i dont mind them

[devout atlas]

Quite certain mine is drilled in to place
@stoic ledge 0.8L go brrt brrt

[stoic ledge]

1.2*

[frank tundra]

my hellcat honestly looks better with the front plate

[stoic ledge]

1.229cm³ to be exact

[devout atlas]

1.2*
@stoic ledge aren't you a baller with the big engine?

[civic girder]

The Prius has a bracket mounted to the bumper (drilled holes). The bracket actually flows into the shape of the bumper somewhat tho.

[stoic ledge]

No

The 1.2 is the lowest engine you want to have some performance....

[frank tundra]

theirs a lot i want to do to my jeep but the 6.4 is not good unless you fully build everything

i dont wanna have to wait for forged internals

[civic girder]

Sounds like rotary lmao

[frank tundra]

so everyone keeps telling me to get a trackhawk

with the 6.2

[civic girder]

You either do nothing or you do everything

[frank tundra]

but then why have a hellcat

yeah thats how the 6.4 is

you can do some things

you can get it up to 550whp

with a tune, intake and exhaust

but anything more then that

boom

thats why you just buy a hellcat instead

[civic girder]

Yea, I mean I can do exhaust and carb mods or carb swap and get upwards of +35hp at the flywheel

[frank tundra]

yeah same for the 6.4

unless you have forged internals, fully built everything

not worth the risk of insane power

[civic girder]

But if I want the b i g power, have to port the motor, which ofc requires a full engine rebuild

[frank tundra]

trackhawks are fast tho

my hellcat unless its a perfect day

would probably lose to one in a 1/4 mile

1/2 mile ill probably catch it

[civic girder]

And if I'm rebuilding for a port, may as well get the rotors lightened and maybe even get a billet eccentric shaft

[frank tundra]

i wish i lived in texas

could just walk to your neighborhood hennesey

and walk out with a 1100hp car

[civic girder]

Lmao

Texas is shitty tho

[frank tundra]

in same cases\

yeah

but

anything is an upgrade from vancouver at this point

[civic girder]

The weather is awful and it's so sandy and dry

105+ F every day

[frank tundra]

When their was a BLM protest here in van, my mustang was parked on the road

and it was really crowded

where i was at the time

one of my rear tires ended up slashed

not a fun day

[civic girder]

F

[frank tundra]

i dont know why it was slashed but it was

after that

whenever im home, all my cars are in the garage if possible, or in the driveway with my gate shut

and my dog walking around in the front

[civic girder]

Reminds me of my friend who accidentally destroyed a tire on his van

[frank tundra]

it wouldve been fine

if i had realized

it was slashed

didnt realize that

till i heard a big BOOM

had to get a new wheel and tire

fender was a little fucked too, but i just took a hammer and worked that out

[winter viper]

Where i live some stupid ppl is loosing wheel nuts when cars are parked ..
Got all lock nuts on mine + guarddog

[frank tundra]

if someone had done it to my hellcat

i wouldve known since it has sensors

[frank tundra]

that is flat flat

I doubt it was anyone who was actually participating in the protest

just some dumbass who thought it wouldve been funny since the street was completely crowded

shitty thing is, i wouldve sold the termi by now if that hadnt of happened

and my hellcat wouldve already been up to 1000-1100hp

had an offer of 30grand for the mustang, but with the damage, wasnt gonna happen

[civic girder]

The steering rack mount is fucked up, so going full lock is a bad idea. He went full lock anyways and it tore a giant hole in the sidewall

My cell connection is ass in my office holy fuck. Why they had to cancel our Verizon shit for hotspots, I have no idea

[frank tundra]

300whp sentra LMAOOOO

this is a GEM

IT HAS A 2STEP SYSTEM LMAO

and its a manual

[civic girder]

I need to get WiFi in my office again, god damn. I can't do anything

[frank tundra]

this is actually the greatest thing i have ever seen

literally a "i couldnt afford a skyline or a gtr so i bought a sentra and made it as fast as a stock skyline"

[stoic ledge]

nice!

[winter viper]

Ready for road trip

[stoic ledge]

👀

[devout atlas]

all you need is a alfa romeo giulia GTA with Firza motorsport amounts of power

[dense shard]

so it's official.

Suzuki's first new car out of a Toyota collab is a rebadged RAV4.

oh nvm. Toyota is already rebadged Suzukis in India.

[stoic ledge]

oh nvm. Toyota is already rebadged Suzukis in India.
@dense shard lol did they? Never new that

Apparently the Suzuki is coming as the PHEV version only (for now?)

[dense shard]

yeah, we usually have to look for India car news.

and yeah

ah, so the Nettuno engine from Maserati.

Because Ferrari stopped developing engine for them, they had to go out and design/build their own.

I think there's more to that.

Isn't the current engine a hot Vee design?

oof

Well I suppose that'll make heat management easier.

Electrification will play an important role in the company’s future, and we’re already anxious to see what a hybrid version of the twin-turbo V6 will bring to the supercar game.

oh no

Well if not much changes, that's fine.

oh no

Europeans need to work on electrification reliability before they start selling it.

good

It doesn't show.

And the best they've managed since then is the 500e.

Which is just a compliance car.

Once again... it doesn't really show.

The best FCA has done in the US at any rate is release mind hybridized engines on the Jeep and RAM truck.

wow... so FCA's first real EV.

A compass PHEV... oof

The Pacifica has plenty of issues.

It's not the most reliable car on the market.

Sounds like something Jeep/Ram have been doing.

Not much demand, but I haven't heard anything bad about it.

uhuh

I'll believe it on release.

[stoic ledge]

[dense shard]

🤔

That sounds exactly like Jeep's 2.0T eTorque system.

GME... the Global Medium Family?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCA_Global_Medium_Engine

Make what you will of this.

yep

The joys of engine sharing across platform lineups.

It takes the excitement out of new engines, but it does mean automakers can afford to develop and sell them.

It also means any preexisting issues that may have existed SHOULD be worked out by now... ahem HONDA?!

yes, I'm more than capable of bashing other automakers. Don't worry friend.

You haven't seen me go off on Tesla or Honda yet.

What, on top of the engine?

oh nooooo

FCA, dammit

I believe it.

They probably realized their mistake.

brb, need my coffee

[dense shard]

I think I get it.

It was probably one of those parts that was meant to "last the life of the car"

But realities are filters never do. Honda had the same issue with their transmission oil filters.

Difference is there wasn't anything you could do to replace that filter. lol

good

I'll take that over it being inaccessible at all point. lol

Why would they.

Pretty sure my car comes with a fuel filter, no mentions of it.

That sounds...

bad

[sterile holly]

um.... what

a filter in a bolt

it's disguised as a spark plug in a place that doesn't need a spark plug

but with the line attached to it i see how it might be useful but more complicated than it should be

[fathom socket]

I have a question

driving a car with oild level just below minimal level

for a short period of time is gonna to hurt it?

[dense shard]

Should be fine, but is not recommended.

Just as a quick word of warning. If the oil light comes on, it's already too late.

[fathom socket]

because my oil cap got undone

[indigo coral]

if you real careful probably not but I'd just add oil just to be safe

[fathom socket]

and I didn't have enough oil to put

[dense shard]

I mean, I'd freak out personally, also for what it's worth. I've heard of hypermilers underfill their oil quite a substantial amount.

[fathom socket]

I just had something like 0.3l left

[dense shard]

If you can avoid driving it do it.

[indigo coral]

I generally fill mine about 2/3 to 3/4 of the way up between the two dots on my dipstick

[dense shard]

If you have to drive, do it immediately to a store. lol

[fathom socket]

well

[indigo coral]

and don't romp on it

[fathom socket]

I got under home

I didn't go above 30 kmph

[dense shard]

oh, it's not the speed. Just don't make any sharp maneuvers I imagine.

[indigo coral]

well i mean don't rev it out frmo every stop light or whatever

[dense shard]

Remember, you got a sippy straw going to the bottom of your oil pan, from there that's how your car gets lubrication.

[fathom socket]

I didn't

but when the oil was leaking out I was going like 4k rpm on highway

[dense shard]

yeah, just go fill it ASAP.

As in, don't wait. You might forget otherwise.

[fathom socket]

at least I didn't lose my oilcap

[dense shard]

good good

[indigo coral]

don't wait, yeah. Do it immediately. I need to add oil to mine today, incidentally

mine's at a safe level but I'm going to drive it a few hudnred miles tomorrow

[dense shard]

Dealership overfilled my car.

[indigo coral]

yikes

[fathom socket]

hmm

[dense shard]

Can't say I'm too happy, but w/e.

[indigo coral]

like overfilled over the top dot on the dipstick?

[fathom socket]

I remember my uncles VW got overfilled

[dense shard]

yep

[fathom socket]

and there was oil all over the road

but my just evaporated

[indigo coral]

fuck

[dense shard]

Just another thing to keep in mind when going to that dealership.

[indigo coral]

is it unsafe to drive my car if I'm at 4800 miles since the last oil change?

[dense shard]

should be fine.

[indigo coral]

we are taking it on a couple hudnred mile trip tomorrow

but I'm not sure ill have time to do the oil

[fathom socket]

I just change my oil every 8000 km

[dense shard]

You said you use synthetic, right?

[indigo coral]

yes

[dense shard]

yeah, you'll be fine.

[fathom socket]

I don't care if ford says to change every 15000 km

[indigo coral]

ok

I'm just concerned bc lexus forums warn against going past 2k miles between oil changse

lol

[dense shard]

From what I've found, all automakers include a healthy margin of error for idiots.

plus minus a few hundred won't matter.

[indigo coral]

ill be adding like 1/4 or 1/3 of a quart today

[dense shard]

If it does, you are probably driving a BMW or Mercedes.

[indigo coral]

I'm a bit above the bottom dot rn, gotta add a bit

[stoic ledge]

Mine only needs oil change after 18k miles

[fathom socket]

wat?

[stoic ledge]

Official interval is 30k km

Or 18k miles

[fathom socket]

on focus?

[stoic ledge]

No zhe Corsa

[fathom socket]

oh

[flint sable]

Kinda want one

Or the VW

WR12 cool

[frank tundra]

ah used audis

aka

money pits

[fathom socket]

used ford focus mk 1 with zetec 1.8 or 2.0 engine

@frank tundra what do u think

I used to have one

but I need to buy a new one

because taxes

and my old one is just a rust bucket

frame is mostly rust free

but all the panels

zetec diesel 1.8?

gasoline

alright idk them ones

I hate diesels

especially the old ones

I just get sick

[gaunt prism]

Are you asking between the 1.8 or 2.0 engine?

[fathom socket]

I'm asking those 2 engine sizes

since 1.4 and 1.6 tend to be less reiable

my one had 300k km

and needed valves replaced

because of LPG

[gaunt prism]

Well 300km is around the lifetime of those engines anyway

about 200k miles here. If you get a car to 200k here, you did well

Im not sure what the question is though.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Avg+life+time+of+zetec+engine&oq=Avg+life+time+of+zetec+engine&aqs=chrome..69i57j33.7943j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

The actual lifespan of an engine is purely how long is a piece of string - it goes down to how well it's serviced, how it's run and treated etc. However, as a rough guide and an average, a correctly serviced Zetec lump is good for 200k with little work - we've had literally loads easily achieve this in testing.

[stoic ledge]

Get a 2004 Corolla 1.6 VVTI, those are reliable

[indigo coral]

ew

[stoic ledge]

ew

[gaunt prism]

Hes right imo if you want reliable then corolla would be a good choice. If thats your main concern.

[stoic ledge]

Hes right imo if you want reliable then corolla would be a good choice. If thats your main concern.
@gaunt prism I think I've told you that before... I'm always right

[fathom socket]

Internet super slow

[frank tundra]

imagine having a reliable car

would be nice

[stoic ledge]

living the FCA life

[frank tundra]

Fiats warranties controls my life 😦

[fathom socket]

Corolla too expensive

[gaunt prism]

Reliable doesnt come into it when i buy a car.

[stoic ledge]

rip

[frank tundra]

i had to take the corsa exhaust out of my hellcat

put in the stock one

[indigo coral]

imagine having a reliable car

[frank tundra]

take it to the dealership

[stoic ledge]

Corsa exhaust 👀

[indigo coral]

damn it would be nice

[frank tundra]

bring it back

[stoic ledge]

Opel Corsa exhaust

[frank tundra]

put the exhaust back in

[fathom socket]

And I would rather walk than drive the Yaris

[frank tundra]

@turbid onyx You havent owned a hellcat or an srt jeep have you

cause i can tell you

the 6.2 and 6.4 are not daily drivers

[stoic ledge]

Turbo died on our Fiat Punto Evo 1.3 M-Jet

[frank tundra]

even tho i treat them both daily drivers

[gaunt prism]

Fiat is honestly one the worst here.

Mostly newer?

[frank tundra]

its okay

my car might not get the greatest gas mileage

i might pay

[indigo coral]

inb4 fiats are more reliable than my rx

[frank tundra]

200 bucks per fill up

[gaunt prism]

Thats prob why you dont see the issues

[frank tundra]

but it good vroom really loud

[gaunt prism]

oh

[stoic ledge]

Turbo died on that Punto

At like 60k miles

1500€ to repair

[frank tundra]

just ebay turbo it

wyd

[gaunt prism]

iirc thats an opel engine

[stoic ledge]

No that's a Fiat engine

Opel used it as well

[gaunt prism]

diesel?

[stoic ledge]

Yes

1.3 M-Jet

Opel used it in the Astra, Meriva and Corsa

But it's a Fiat engine

[frank tundra]

im pretty sure the dodge dealer knows ive already fucked my warranty and voided it

[gaunt prism]

JTD?

[frank tundra]

cause when they were changing my oil

the mechanic kept giving me a weird look

when he was looking under the car

i had my head gasket on my old srt jeep blow up

fiat ol' reliable

[stoic ledge]

JTD?
@gaunt prism Yes, Multijet

[frank tundra]

what did i do? i watered down my head gasket, made it look like it was fine, took it to the dealership, traded it in for a 2019 srt jeep

[stoic ledge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JTD_engine#1.3_Multijet

[gaunt prism]

There now 🙂

[frank tundra]

it actually worked as well

the guy who drove my jeep

"bro you took really good care of this thing"

no i didnt

its still sitting on the lot to this day

[gaunt prism]

Ive seen those melt the injectors

I think thats the one where the cam shafts snap too

[stoic ledge]

oof

[dense shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeDKGw87FvQ

[gaunt prism]

Sweet just tow a honda e behind you lol

[dense shard]

only 1 kw

Still pretty amusing.

I would love a Honda e.

[stoic ledge]

35.5 kWh

[indigo coral]

it's an interesting lookign car

[stoic ledge]

Thonk

No?

https://www.honda.nl/content/dam/central/cars/honda-e-2020/Honda-e-Overview-header-1x1-03-mob.jpg/jcr:content/renditions/m_r.jpg

Literally nothing reminds me of the 80s

[indigo coral]

hold up

is the screen actually that big?

people make fun of tesla screen but holy shit

[stoic ledge]

It are multiple screens

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/0PfuF9JKcHp50HhSO6XGvaA4ZOXr16geP58tQ84QQodwzEhfczTxRWJ9wUBPSmMGUu1KgH5LGuv9zSb7PjH7SXwPMCLgyhdBgF5gjWYVb1ioh2Z0PP_ehPpwQKCJC89mUKjDVGcq3rgQy8js

I don't see it

[gaunt prism]

is the screen actually that big?
@indigo coral You seen the center screen in the tesla?

[indigo coral]

it aint that big

I've been in teslas yes

its big, but not as big as that car

[stoic ledge]

With a lot of imagination, sure 😛

[brave totem]

I mean comtech has been installing touch screen PCs in cars since the 80s

http://thelincolnmarkviiclub.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=10008

[dense shard]

American automakers would really prefer you forget those touchscreens.

Especially GM.

[indigo coral]

My car has a screen but its not touch

[indigo coral]

oof just added oil to my car

1/4 quart

Yay for oil consumption

[fathom socket]

Touch screens have been a thing for like 40-50 years I think

Toyota had some touch screen stuff in their Celica Supra or Celica XX lineup with the more luxurious trim levels in Japan

[gaunt prism]

Audi actually state in the handbook on some engines they can burn up to 1 ltr per 1000miles

[devout atlas]

@turbid onyx do you own an Alfa?

[civic girder]

It has come time to buy parts again.

[devout atlas]

because your rotary likes to disintegrate?

[civic girder]

yes

[devout atlas]

typical rotary

I see the pitchforks already

[civic girder]

except none of the parts are engine related lmao

[devout atlas]

oof

hurr durr rotary bad

[civic girder]

mainly just qol things

new washer fluid bottle cause my original one has a hole in it and can't fill it more than half way

new antenna mast cause the power one is broken

battery hold down bracket cause mine is mia

and drum brake screws so I can finally fix the clanking and pulsing in the brakes

[devout atlas]

how do you lose the battery bracket?

[civic girder]

it was missing when I got the car

luckily the bracket and shit is only like $40

not bad for an 80s car where 97% of parts are out of production

[devout atlas]

yes