cars

[stoic ledge]

Yeah well I've tried them out at the local BMW (M) dealership But with constantly hitting the doorcard and/or B-pillar it's impossible to get comfortable

[devout atlas]

Yeah well I've tried them out at the local BMW (M) dealership But with constantly hitting the doorcard and/our B-pillar it's impossible to get comfortable
@stoic ledge Time to get a dacia

[stoic ledge]

I actually have more space in the Sandero, yes

Same as in my Corsa tbh

[devout atlas]

get the black edition

buy a new 'un

[stoic ledge]

2011 Corsa -> 2011 Sandero Black Line feels like a downgrade

[devout atlas]

nope

[stoic ledge]

👀

[devout atlas]

the sandero is the best car

[stoic ledge]

[devout atlas]

saying otherwise

[civic spoke]

They want 230,000 SEK for that 1 series. I'll imagine that you can talk the price down a bit, though.

[devout atlas]

is heresy

[stoic ledge]

Inb4 229,500 SEK

[stoic ledge]

Oof

[civic spoke]

229,800

[devout atlas]

183.840 for ex mothers?

[civic spoke]

Excluding taxes.

[devout atlas]

do they require you to put your child up for adoption?

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[devout atlas]

or will disowning do?

[stoic ledge]

22k EUR

[devout atlas]

brb

selling child for bimmer

[stoic ledge]

That's not bad for an LCI 4-cyl manual Navi Professional M-Sport car

[civic spoke]

I'd honestly be down for that 118i.

[stoic ledge]

Glhf

[civic spoke]

It's the 3 cylinder engine. 👀

[stoic ledge]

Ah

Kak

Rip

That's bad

[civic spoke]

I don't really think so. tbh

Can still be tuned to close to 200 hp safely.

[stoic ledge]

It sounds like a lawnmower

[civic spoke]

I'd rather have the 3 cylinder, over the 4 cylinder.

[stoic ledge]

And the startup noise is horrific

I'd rather have the 6 cyl But otherwise the 4-cyl

[civic spoke]

For me it's either 3 or 6 cylinder.

[wild tiger]

Yall talking 3c when i got 8

[stoic ledge]

I've got 2 cars with 4, does that count?

That's 8 as well

• a turbocharger

[wild tiger]

Better weld them

[stoic ledge]

Oof

[devout atlas]

smh

imagine not having a 8.3L v10 truck engine

[stoic ledge]

2.6 V8 Turbo, that'd be awesome

[civic spoke]

My truck is an inline 6.

[stoic ledge]

• the E46 I6 = V12

[stoic ledge]

That's bigger than my entire car

[civic spoke]

Truck + E46 would be 12 cylinders and a volume of 9,9 liters.

[wild tiger]

Thats in my explorer

[stoic ledge]

Put a Fiesta body on it

[wild tiger]

With body in place

[stoic ledge]

No Fiesta body

[civic spoke]

Would be fun to see the D8K engine in a normal car.

[stoic ledge]

Kekw

Torque boii

[civic spoke]

1,400 Nm

[stoic ledge]

Enough to rotate the earth counterclockwise

[civic spoke]

Brown line is the engine I have.

1,400 Nm between 1,200~1,600 RPM.

[stoic ledge]

I'd need a massively long final ratio to make that work

[wild tiger]

4.6 be like 292 hp with 315lbft

Bc merican v8

[stoic ledge]

Imagine not having 83hp

Or 86, depending on the fuel

[wild tiger]

Fun fact

The Chevy volt has more torque than my 4.6

330lbft

Only 150 something hp

[devout atlas]

4.6 be like 292 hp with 315lbft
@wild tiger the mod actually made 202 in it's first iteration

murica

gas is free

[stoic ledge]

Chevy Spark EV has more Torque than a 458 Ferrari

[wild tiger]

@devout atlas mod?

[devout atlas]

4.6 modular

[civic spoke]

@stoic ledge You just need lots of gears.

12+2 gears in my truck.

[devout atlas]

4.6 modular, because DOHC is for nerds

[wild tiger]

@devout atlas this is the triton last version

[devout atlas]

only the 4.6 in the marauder had DOHC

@devout atlas this is the triton last version
@wild tiger ye, that's good

it still ain't the 302 hp DOHC 4.6 though

[wild tiger]

This is a issue for me

[devout atlas]

eh

crap

[wild tiger]

I got a quote

315 total

I will prob do

[devout atlas]

yep

or you can just salvage another 4.6 from a junkyard

[stoic ledge]

@civic spoke I often drive a tractor with only 24+24 gears

[wild tiger]

I got 6 forward gears

[civic spoke]

24 gears both forward and reverse?

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[wild tiger]

And irl 6 rev

[devout atlas]

or LS swap that ford

complete heresy

[stoic ledge]

Every forward gear is also available as reverse gear

[wild tiger]

@devout atlas id shove a 5.0 ho in

I had one

Nice motor

[devout atlas]

ooh

ye

ofc

[wild tiger]

1998 explorer

V8

[devout atlas]

you need a 7L big block

[wild tiger]

I could do a v10 triton

Or 5.0 cyote

My friend has a ford v10

430kmiles

[stoic ledge]

4 spd main shifter
3 spd low shifter
2 settings (fast and low) in each gear
432 = 24 gears

Forward - Neutral - Reverse selector = 24+24 gears

[devout atlas]

8.3 v10 time

[stoic ledge]

1.2 I4 time

[wild tiger]

I have a 90hp i4

Thats like 1.4l

Turbo diesel

Made by cat

Baby motor

[stoic ledge]

Toybota engine by any chance?

[wild tiger]

Bobcat

[devout atlas]

nah

[stoic ledge]

They have a 90hp 1.4 D

[devout atlas]

toyota has the 1.6 diesel

[wild tiger]

This is a bobcat

[devout atlas]

going into a poverty spec corolla

[wild tiger]

The largest one

[devout atlas]

l a r g e

[wild tiger]

Still smaller than a ford escape

Its longer then a smart

[stoic ledge]

1.6 diesel in a Corolla? i don't think so commie

[devout atlas]

1.6 diesel in a Corolla? i don't think so commie
@stoic ledge ye, we had one here in 2008

[wild tiger]

Im lucky its not a 2 stroke turbo diesel

[stoic ledge]

@stoic ledge ye, we had one here in 2008
@devout atlas thonk

According to my knowledge, and confirmed by Wikipedia, there's a 1.4 and 2.0 diesel in such Corolla

[wild tiger]

Some bobcats have 1.6l fords

[stoic ledge]

TDCI?

[wild tiger]

Baby ecoboost

[devout atlas]

According to my knowledge, and confirmed by Wikipedia, there's a 1.4 and 2.0 diesel in such Corolla
@stoic ledge you're right

my bad

1.4D

[stoic ledge]

Wait the 1.6 EcoBoost in a bobcat? That's not bad

[devout atlas]

the 1.6 was a poverty spec petrol

[stoic ledge]

@stoic ledge you're right
@devout atlas I always am

[devout atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-wazowski-cursed-terror-moving-move-gif-16644513

[stoic ledge]

There was also a 1.3 in the Corolla

[devout atlas]

swap a 1jz in it

[stoic ledge]

[devout atlas]

ez poverty s p ()rt car

[indigo coral]

sometimes i wish i had a 2.0T ecoboost or somethiung in my RX

lol

would be easier to work on

and faster

working on my RX sucks

[stoic ledge]

I wish I had a 2.0 EcoBoost in the Corsa

[wild tiger]

Some older bobcats had 2.2l

[stoic ledge]

Imagine the performance

[wild tiger]

43hp

[indigo coral]

having a 4 banger would make it so much easier to work on my car

[devout atlas]

Imagine the performance
@stoic ledge swap a 7l v8 in it

[indigo coral]

transverse motors are a pain in the ass

[devout atlas]

easy

[wild tiger]

Try 2 4 bangers

Welded

[stoic ledge]

@stoic ledge swap a 7l v8 in it
@devout atlas not sure that would fit

[devout atlas]

it will

[wild tiger]

4.6 life

[devout atlas]

nobody needs a firewall @stoic ledge

real men touch their engine with their feet

[indigo coral]

its truly boneheaded design to make you have to take off the entire intake and throttle system to replace f**king spark plugs

[stoic ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/375461451403624471/567119593278013454/IMG_20190211_134126.jpg

[wild tiger]

At least your plugs leave

[stoic ledge]

What. A. Beast.

[wild tiger]

Unlike a 4.6

[devout atlas]

you don't need a windshield washer reservoir, or a battery in the engine bay

[indigo coral]

my car is a 3.0 V6, pretty slow

lol

220hp but the car is heavy af

[devout atlas]

put that in the passenger seat

[stoic ledge]

It's slow because of the slushbox

[devout atlas]

that car deserves a 7l v8

[indigo coral]

the motor is weaksauce too though mk

[wild tiger]

The 4.6 both shots and gets plugs stuck

[indigo coral]

lol

the 2007 hauls ass compared to mine

[stoic ledge]

Manual would make that 3.0 V6 fly

[indigo coral]

no it wouldn't

i can't drive stick

[stoic ledge]

That sounds like a you problem, not a me problem

[indigo coral]

you're smart, i'm not 😛

[stoic ledge]

[indigo coral]

I'm not smart enough to drive manual

hence why I drive automagic

[wild tiger]

Ford lets you shift over obd2

[stoic ledge]

I've driven an automatic last Friday, has been a while

[wild tiger]

Also the first 3 gears are open

So i can manual atm

[stoic ledge]

And well, automatic... Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) so it's horrifying Even worse than a 1999 slushbox

I can also manual

[indigo coral]

the 2007 is decently fast trans

[wild tiger]

The 6r60 be like

[indigo coral]

and lots of hp

[wild tiger]

Lets go to 3rd

No 4

No 6th

I mean 5th

[indigo coral]

ooof

mine is just reluctant to drop a gear sometimes

[wild tiger]

Its not smart

[indigo coral]

it's really not that bad otherwise

[stoic ledge]

https://youtu.be/q3FRo_57XhM

Listen to the shifts falcon, it's horrifying

I can get a cup of coffee in the meantime

[wild tiger]

You should hear 2 to 1

On the 6r60

[indigo coral]

wtf

the speed actually falls while it's shifting

[wild tiger]

Ford lied about my 0-60

8.8

More like 7.4

[indigo coral]

hey mine's supposed to be 8.8 too

try more like 11

lol

[wild tiger]

They slapped the v6 speed

And tow rating

3500 is the v6

7200 is the v8

[indigo coral]

@stoic ledge thats horrifying

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[indigo coral]

Mine isn't remotely that bad

https://youtu.be/k_9OwPDs0PM

[stoic ledge]

Luckily it's connected to a massive ||0.9 TCe 3-cyl|| with all the power in the world

Hence why I said Even worse than a 1999 slushbox

[indigo coral]

yeah but it's like

wayyy worse

[stoic ledge]

It's basically just a manual controlled by a computer

[indigo coral]

https://youtu.be/GABnK0SAk2Q

Compared to these other two, that's a fast trans

[stoic ledge]

Just like those Ferrari's and Lambo's back in the day

I can shift faster

[indigo coral]

ok have fun with that

do you have 300hp?

lol

[stoic ledge]

But yeah the 350 isn't bad

[indigo coral]

and the 350 is actually willing to downshift quickly

[civic spoke]

When it comes to getting a newer car. Then I'm honestly also looking at getting a cheap econo-box.

[stoic ledge]

do you have 300hp?
Soon* I will

* some day in the future

[civic spoke]

Something real entry level.

And just drive it into the ground during the time of warranty.

[stoic ledge]

Something real entry level.
Dacia Sandero without AC and non-painted bumpers

[civic spoke]

GREAT NEWS

[indigo coral]

im watching that video and the thing literally noticeably stops accelerating as it shifts

is that transmission functioning properly?

[civic spoke]

Buy maybe something like a Toyota Aygo.

[stoic ledge]

Yes, it was actually worse before. The clutch got replaced under warranty

[indigo coral]

shudders

[stoic ledge]

That's the actual way the car shifts

[indigo coral]

I wonder what would happen if you turboed the 350

[stoic ledge]

Yes it's horrible

[indigo coral]

🤔

[stoic ledge]

Try it

[indigo coral]

no

lol

300hp from an NA 3.5L V6 is adequate

but it'll be a pain in the ass to work on

lol

[stoic ledge]

sad Pikachu face

[indigo coral]

lexus claims 270 but its actually ~295-305

[stoic ledge]

No match for me

[indigo coral]

lol

Sometimes I wonder if Ford overrates their motors

they claim our Taurus has 365hp

same as a Genesis G70

yet teh G70 pisses all over it

similar torque figures too

[stoic ledge]

I dragraced my Corsa to a 2000 Corsa B 1.5 Turbo Diesel with a whopping 69hp (giggity)... Mine was faster

[indigo coral]

lol nice

[stoic ledge]

I can beat a 20 year old Corsa

Diesel

Results

[indigo coral]

I lost to a saturn astra

[stoic ledge]

Nice

[indigo coral]

(though in my defense it was not stock)

I did kick a Scion tC's ass

[stoic ledge]

We could actually get that exact Astra with a 1.4 producing 90hp

Or a 95hp 1.3 diesel

[wild tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5Z5sfu6xns

[indigo coral]

yeah the 5.4 3valve suuucks

[wild tiger]

the 4.6 is fine

the 5.4 is hell

[stoic ledge]

52 minute video

@indigo coral have you ever been in a scenario where the 220hp V6 wasn't fast enough to get along with traffic? Can't imagine it won't suffice

[indigo coral]

I've been on on ramps that I can barely make it up to 60 by the end of it

@stoic ledge

[stoic ledge]

Nice

[indigo coral]

so I suppose, yes

on occasion

[wild tiger]

so if i wanted to fix the chains for good on my 4.6 its like half the cost of a f150

[indigo coral]

But I always feel bad stressing the engine

It's not intended to rev out like that

[stoic ledge]

I nearly always shift at 4000rpm which gets me up to highway speeds without a problem

[indigo coral]

Lucky

[wild tiger]

i try to stay below 3500

but if im trying for that 7.7 its at 6k

[stoic ledge]

so if i wanted to fix the chains for good on my 4.6 its like half the cost of a f150
Take out engine of F150
Put it in an Exploder
Fix it
*** P R O F I T***

[indigo coral]

My redline is like 6300 and it'll usually shift at like 5000ish if I'm deep in the pedal

Occasionally it'll get close to redline

[wild tiger]

rl is 6500

on a 4.6

[indigo coral]

Doesnt seen to do much at that point tho

I have a 1MZ-FE in my car

The '99 RX has a higher redline than the later first gens

[wild tiger]

that part in orange is the bain of a mid 2000s ford

[indigo coral]

Rip.

Why would they use cheapy plastic

[stoic ledge]

Because it's cheap

[wild tiger]

most tensioners are metal covered with plastic

but that has its issues

[indigo coral]

I wonder if the 2007 is timing belt or chain?

[wild tiger]

the plastic falls off

[indigo coral]

the 350

[wild tiger]

and you have issues

[indigo coral]

@stoic ledge do you know?

[stoic ledge]

No I do not

[indigo coral]

ah

[stoic ledge]

I'd have to Google it myself xD

[indigo coral]

The 350 is chain

330 is belt

[stoic ledge]

[indigo coral]

That's a big downside, oof.

[stoic ledge]

Thonk

[indigo coral]

belts are typically more reliable, no?

[wild tiger]

no

chains are way more

[stoic ledge]

Well depends

[indigo coral]

seems like every car with a timing chain has ridiculous problems

[stoic ledge]

Depends if the owner is stupid or not

[wild tiger]

the best way of doing time is a push rod

[stoic ledge]

And if it's a VW or not

[indigo coral]

Idk if thr chain is remotely reliable in the rx350

[wild tiger]

everyones fav 8v is a pushrod

(chevy ls)

[stoic ledge]

Chain runs through the oil. Always keep the oil level at max. If oil gets low, you corner hard -> chain can run partially dry -> chain stretches -> big rip

[wild tiger]

ford 5.0ho is also

[indigo coral]

Our explorer chain stretched but it was never run low on oil

So idk

I'm skeptical of timing chains

[wild tiger]

did you have a 4.0

v6

[indigo coral]

3.5 Ecoboost

[stoic ledge]

EcObOoStO

[wild tiger]

i havnt seen it happen on eco boost

[indigo coral]

2014 Sport

10k$ to have it fixed

[wild tiger]

i know the older 4.0 was full of it

[indigo coral]

Thankfully was covered by warranty

By a few months

[wild tiger]

idk what id get if i had to jump off the explorer

[indigo coral]

Our 2013 SHO is 3.5 Ecoboost too but knocks on wood it's been good thus far

[wild tiger]

prob this

cant have failing chains if it doesnt have any

[devout atlas]

talking of failure

Northstar V8

[wild tiger]

head gaskets

[indigo coral]

Here's a question

[stoic ledge]

Here's a question
That's not a question

[indigo coral]

Who in the flying fuck thought it was wise to make a water cooled alternator

That's some of the dumbest shit I've heard in quite a while

[stoic ledge]

Who in the flying fuck thought it was wise to make a water cooled alternator
Never watched LTT videos?

Water cooling > everything

[indigo coral]

Ltt doesn't make cars

[devout atlas]

Water cooling my clutch

ignore the fact that it's non-functional now

[indigo coral]

Water cooling the exhaust gases in my cylinders

[stoic ledge]

Water cooling my water

[indigo coral]

#hydrolock

[devout atlas]

water cooling my air-cooled engine

[indigo coral]

Ice water on hot engine block = profit

[devout atlas]

exactly

[indigo coral]

I need to water cool my infotainment

[devout atlas]

I'm in me jaag

[indigo coral]

I'm in me mums caah

https://media.tenor.com/images/0bcb25cf69e96ba10bddac502dbd7f4a/tenor.gif

[devout atlas]

hey

a ford thunderbird

is basically a jag

[wild tiger]

@indigo coral my fords radio has a amd geode in it

[devout atlas]

and a lincoln LS

[indigo coral]

Lmao

My car has ..idk what

But it has a basic ass screen

[wild tiger]

i dont have a screen

[devout atlas]

we get better corollas than y'all

and yes, we actually use manuals

[wild tiger]

for beamng players, heres a 2007 explorer

[stoic ledge]

CD 6 👀

CD changer

Also: why do US Radios only pick up odd radio frequencies lol. When imported to Europe, you can't receive have the radio stations

Also: best Infotainment screen

and yes, we actually use manuals
@devout atlas

US: Is this: an anti-theft device?

[devout atlas]

[wild tiger]

@stoic ledge na

[devout atlas]

my dad's been driving a 2007 manual corolla

since

well

2007

[stoic ledge]

That's no 2007 interior tho

[devout atlas]

that's 2017 interior

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[civic spoke]

Heard tonnes of stories about a vehicle being stolen.

And then dumped instantly for being a manual.

[wild tiger]

Fun fact

[stoic ledge]

looks at brothers BMW

Ah no that's not dumped

It's still gone

[wild tiger]

My radio has serius xm

Sat radio

[stoic ledge]

[devout atlas]

this is 2007 interior

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[wild tiger]

And aux

[devout atlas]

but my dad has fake wood trim

because dad

[stoic ledge]

Oh yes

[wild tiger]

Same

[civic spoke]

E46 interior. 👀

[stoic ledge]

because dad
@devout atlas Hi dad I'm MK

[stoic ledge]

Black on black on black on black

[civic spoke]

Silver paint.

[stoic ledge]

Get the wooden steeringwheel

[indigo coral]

I'll never drive a stick shift car, lol.

Gotta be smart to drive stick

[devout atlas]

but with a stick shift

this is his car

because we're not wusses

[stoic ledge]

It's really not that hard

[indigo coral]

It's difficult + I'd rather let the car handle fragile gears not me

[wild tiger]

@indigo coral road trips suck with a stick

[stoic ledge]

@indigo coral road trips suck with a stick
@wild tiger why?

[wild tiger]

You have to shift

[stoic ledge]

1. Put car in highest gear
2. Leave it there for the next 300 miles

[devout atlas]

it seems that americans get a shittier version of teh corolla

[stoic ledge]

I don't see the problem

[indigo coral]

traffic with a stick seems like a nightmare

[wild tiger]

That doesn't work

[indigo coral]

yep that's the 2007 Corolla here

The interior is awful

Friend of mine unfortunately has one

[stoic ledge]

That's the older Corolla interior

[wild tiger]

We get 23% grade

[devout atlas]

it looks like a 2004 corolla interior right there

[indigo coral]

It's so plastic and garbage it's ridiculous

[wild tiger]

With hills

[indigo coral]

^

Lots of hills and mountains and shit

[devout atlas]

Friend of mine unfortunately has one
@indigo coral too bad he doesn't have the chad tier International model

[stoic ledge]

Well just downshift once

I don't see the issue

[civic spoke]

I would 100% want a manual if I lived in a hilly area.

[indigo coral]

or just put it on cruise control and let the car do the work

[civic spoke]

Engine braking.

[wild tiger]

My truck will drop to 3rd at times

[stoic ledge]

I would 100% want a manual if I lived in a hilly area.
Same

[indigo coral]

Brake pads ain't expensive

[wild tiger]

@civic spoke i can do that

On my auto

[civic spoke]

Warped rotors is worse.

[indigo coral]

Plus it's damn near impossible to smoothly start on a hill in a manual

[devout atlas]

@stoic ledge true luxury is having 2 gloveboxes on the passenger side

[stoic ledge]

or just put it on cruise control and let the car do the work
Same, but even my 1.2 can keep it up to speed on hill autobahns

[indigo coral]

if you don't brake like a dumbass you won't get warped rotors

[civic spoke]

@indigo coral Is it? 🤔

[stoic ledge]

Worst case I have to downshift once

Plus it's damn near impossible to smoothly start on a hill in a manual
@indigo coral never had an issue

[civic spoke]

I haven't had many issues starting in steeper hills.

[stoic ledge]

Must be a skilled driver

[wild tiger]

I parked on a 45 degree hill

[indigo coral]

I mean people roll back into the car behind them all the time because they cant start up hills here

[wild tiger]

That was fun

[indigo coral]

I know one girl who totalled her mustang doing that

[stoic ledge]

Who parks on a 45° hill

[civic spoke]

You can cheat and use the hand brake.

[wild tiger]

Me

[devout atlas]

I know one girl who totalled her mustang doing that
@indigo coral v6 convertible?

[indigo coral]

GT.

[stoic ledge]

Kek

[wild tiger]

It was a "ramp"

[indigo coral]

Actually a respectable car.

[wild tiger]

To a exit door

[devout atlas]

GT.
@indigo coral ouch

[stoic ledge]

That's one steep ramp

[wild tiger]

Yes

I backed up it

Then parking break

[stoic ledge]

I probably can't even get up to that lol

[indigo coral]

Wish I could get a mustang

[wild tiger]

I have 4wd

[stoic ledge]

crashes into crowd

[wild tiger]

So 45 is easy

[indigo coral]

Tho if I was gonna spend the money id prob get a used i8 or something interesting

[civic spoke]

Steepest steet we have here in Stockholm is 22% grade.

[devout atlas]

Wish I could get a mustang :E_MonkaThink:
@indigo coral you like crashin' into crowds?

[stoic ledge]

I'm more worried about the approach and departure angle lol

[devout atlas]

Tho if I was gonna spend the money id prob get a used i8 or something interesting
@indigo coral saab

[wild tiger]

The explorer has plenty

[indigo coral]

no, not a Saab

[devout atlas]

no, not a Saab
@indigo coral why?

[wild tiger]

Its 8in min clearence

[indigo coral]

Unless you can find me a 2012 9-5 Sportcombi Aero that's US Legal (there's virtually none)

[stoic ledge]

I don't have 8" clearance

[wild tiger]

Also the ramp was not a angled one

[stoic ledge]

Unless you can find me a 2012 9-5 Sportcombi Aero that's US Legal (there's virtually none)
@indigo coral there are exactly 0

[indigo coral]

There's at least 1

[devout atlas]

Unless you can find me a 2012 9-5 Sportcombi Aero that's US Legal (there's virtually none)
@indigo coral fine, polestar?

[indigo coral]

Guy who converted one of the last 9-5 sedans

[stoic ledge]

9-5 NG SC was never officially build nor licensed, only some weird construction can get the preproduction registered in Europe

Ah

That's not the real SC xD

[indigo coral]

Lol

[civic spoke]

Nice and steep.

[indigo coral]

It's a damn fine looking car

[stoic ledge]

Yes it is

Based on an Opel Insignia

[indigo coral]

Like bloody hell that looks good

That could be a 2020 model

[wild tiger]

Looks like a squished explorer g5

[civic spoke]

"Saab"

[stoic ledge]

Yeah shame they went bust

[indigo coral]

"trailblazer"

😂

[stoic ledge]

9-3 was basically a Cadillac BLS as well

[indigo coral]

Literally the 9-5 SC could be a 2020 MY car and it would fit right in

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[devout atlas]

hol up

[stoic ledge]

It's a real shame

[devout atlas]

you want something interesting

[stoic ledge]

Would have wanted one

[devout atlas]

right?

[indigo coral]

Yes

Lol

[devout atlas]

Volkswagen jetta

[stoic ledge]

No

[wild tiger]

All that junk on the back

[devout atlas]

1991

[stoic ledge]

Don't

[devout atlas]

or get a 4Ws honda prelude

[indigo coral]

ngl i8 vs Mustang GT I'd pick the i8

[wild tiger]

Even has the tail

[devout atlas]

ngl i8 vs Mustang GT I'd pick the i8
@indigo coral would you pick an i8 over a 4WS honda prelude?

it has 4Ws

[indigo coral]

The silver thing that says explorer looks like a mustache

And yes

In a second

[devout atlas]

oof

[stoic ledge]

@indigo coral we actually have a price for the Explorer in 🇳🇱, only €80k

Quite cheap compared to a base Mustang GT costing €110k

[indigo coral]

Brand new the i8 is a scam but used it's a bargain

You can find em under 50k sometimes

[civic spoke]

Good thing that i8 isn't being made anymore.

[indigo coral]

Wdym

I like it

Lol

[devout atlas]

the i8

is just

nope

[civic spoke]

I don't mind it either. But it was a weird, and special kind of car.

[indigo coral]

Its too much money from new

[devout atlas]

it has no power to back shit up

[indigo coral]

But used it's solid

[civic spoke]

King of depreciation.

[indigo coral]

400hp is adequate

[wild tiger]

@stoic ledge a base explorer is like 28k usd

[indigo coral]

At 50k 400hp is good

[devout atlas]

if you want interesting

[civic spoke]

i8 is probably a solid daily.

[devout atlas]

get a volkswagen XL1

[indigo coral]

At 200k it's not obviously

LOL

[devout atlas]

do y'all know ablut the volks XL1?

[indigo coral]

The XL1 is hilarious

[wild tiger]

I payed 7250 for 300 hp

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[indigo coral]

It gets what, 200mpg?

[devout atlas]

260

mpg

[indigo coral]

Yes but do your doors go up? @wild tiger

[stoic ledge]

On paper

[indigo coral]

Lol

[wild tiger]

@indigo coral yes

The 5th one

[civic spoke]

I would totes drive a VW XL1.

[indigo coral]

LOL

[wild tiger]

Lift gate

[indigo coral]

I think they nailed the styling

[devout atlas]

it certainly looks interesting doe

[indigo coral]

Not the price

The price is too high

[wild tiger]

@devout atlas looks like a ev1

[devout atlas]

it's from 2011

[stoic ledge]

2 cylinder diesel

[indigo coral]

Did they ever actually sell any?

[stoic ledge]

Yes, 250

Limited run

[devout atlas]

the back is absolute pog

for the XL1

[civic spoke]

What other similar cars are there?

[stoic ledge]

3 for 🇳🇱 , which actually came with a Dutch owners manual. For 3 cars, they made an entire owners manual

[wild tiger]

So looks like a ev1

[devout atlas]

What other similar cars are there?
@civic spoke honda insight?

[indigo coral]

imo the biggest flaw with the BMW i8 was the price. The performance just wasn't there for 150-200k. If they priced it at 80k they'd have sold like hotcakes.

I think it looks really nice

[stoic ledge]

But they'd loose 100k on each car

[indigo coral]

Wait deadass?

[devout atlas]

here's the insight

budget Xl1

[indigo coral]

That's how high their production costs were????

Looks cool af

[stoic ledge]

It has an entire carbon fire structure/frame which is extremely expensive to make

[indigo coral]

inb4 buy that instead of a G70

[stoic ledge]

Do it

[indigo coral]

(the g70 is probably faster)

ah not quite

But closer than bmw would like to admit

4.1 seconds to 60 vs 4.5 for the G70

😂

[stoic ledge]

I can beat that

[indigo coral]

I said 60, not 6

[civic spoke]

You guys wanna know what's sad? A stretch of road around here that is considered a "fun" road isn't fun for me anymore.

[indigo coral]

why?

Cops?

[civic spoke]

You can't drive it without going way over the speed limit.

At least if you want the fun aspect of it.

[indigo coral]

since when has that stopped anyone

joking ofc

[civic spoke]

It's a 60/70 kmh road.

I can more or less do 100 kmh along the whole stretch.

[indigo coral]

oof

[civic spoke]

Which means loss of a drivers license if you get caught.

[indigo coral]

yikes don't do that

[stoic ledge]

I only loose my license at 50km/h over

So I'll be fine

[indigo coral]

49kmh over it is

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[civic spoke]

10 mile stretch.

[stoic ledge]

49km/h over will give me like a €1k fine, but I won't loose my license

[civic spoke]

30 kmh over is no bueno for us.

[indigo coral]

18mph over

Oof that's strict

18 over would get you a fat ticket here but it takes more than that to lose your license

[civic spoke]

100 in a 70 kmh zone.

[indigo coral]

60 in a 45

Thats not even that extreme depending on circumstances

[civic spoke]

That mixed two songs to boot.

[fathom socket]

I'm gonna to end up having a moped

[devout atlas]

LS swap it

👌

[civic spoke]

I should probably get a moped.

[fathom socket]

I'm just gonna to have it for 4 months

I can't afford a car

Because insurance is gonna to cost 5x the price of the car

[tight cypress]

@fathom socket welcome to the moped gang

[fathom socket]

[frank tundra]

everything she says sounds so forced

[stoic ledge]

Can't listen to her for longer than 0.1 seconds, otherwise I'm already dead

[fathom socket]

@stoic ledge more like 0.4 fentomseconds

[deep hound]

2 thefts, one and a half sound systems and a couple broken windows later we're here

[fathom socket]

Driving Toyota Yaris is terryfying For me

I bearly fit

[deep hound]

Carina

I think its 1.5 times the size of a yaris

[devout atlas]

the yaris has the single most depressing interior of any car

not to mention the fact that you'd fare better sitting on stone stools

compared to yaris seats

but

it looks like an enthusiastic little kid

from the outside

so it evens out

[fathom socket]

Party on the outside

Business on the inside

More like economy seating*

Omg she is irritating isn't she

[devout atlas]

at this price, I'd rather get a 1980s buick

being impaled by the steering wheel is still better than sitting on yaris seats

[dense shard]

I'd take the Yaris. That will at least run for a few more decades.

[devout atlas]

yes

I'd take the yaris too

but not the yaris seats

[fathom socket]

The seats are not the worst

The gearbox and pedals are killing me

And the steering wheel is too far away for me

The pedals are very stiff

[charred depot]

Shouldagota mazda 2

[fathom socket]

It's my mother's car

We needed a reliable car to get to work

[charred depot]

Mazda 2's reliable

[fathom socket]

There wasn't much to choose

@charred depot way too expensive

[charred depot]

Used

[fathom socket]

They are like 5000 CHF

Or USD

[charred depot]

Im in UK got mines at 55k miles 9 years old for £2000

[fathom socket]

But earliest I can find are from 2010

[charred depot]

mines is a 2010 model yeah

[fathom socket]

U got it so cheap because it's UK

UK cars are cheaper than mainland European ones

An mx 5 costs like 8000 CHF here

But I can buy a nice focus mk1 for like 800 CHF

[viral matrix]

[civic spoke]

Nice.

[dense shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzewTCZc3Bc

[frank tundra]

Not all "flat bottom" steering wheels are that bad

Some are unnecessary but its pretty cool to have in specific cars

[dense shard]

Yeah, but point is that by and large they are more flair than practical.

I like the aesthetics, and I'll take it over fake vents any day of the week.

[indigo coral]

How much does it cost to get two bumpers painted?

[devout atlas]

big grilles only look good on Bentleys

[indigo coral]

I just got an ad on youtube advertising manual corollas

[devout atlas]

oh yes

is it a 2007 corolla with fake wood trim?

[dense shard]

It depends on what level of work you want done.

I understand that doing the prep work yourself can save you a fair amount.

So sanding and cleaning could be a decent discount.

[fathom socket]

You guys know how some newer mustangs and camaros have the exhaust noise control?

What is the name for it and is there a way to install something like it on another car? Like say you have a super loud ‘05 WRX

[dense shard]

It depends on the car and company.

oh wait... I'm an idiot. You are talking about louder exhaust things?

That's easy. Install a louder exhaust.

If you want to get creative. The Mustang Boss 302 from last generation had a flap you could remove from before the mufflers to give you more noise.

GM has a flap thingie inside the muffler that partially bypasses it giving you more sound.

So you'd have to search for something like... dunno active exhaust?

[normal temple]

@fathom socket you can install a valve somewhere in the exhaust that does an open dump when you switch it

[dense shard]

Ford's take was even simpler. It was a baffle plate you'd remove. lol

[normal temple]

https://youtu.be/SRVaNrhtrDA

Like this

[dense shard]

Question is why.

[normal temple]

But the valves are usually pretty shit

And fall apart esp with flames

[dense shard]

I think having a Y-splitter in the exhaust and having one side go into the muffler and the other go into nothing is a better idea.

Just block off the muffler-less bit if you don't want noise.

[normal temple]

Sounds like a good way to kill a lot of power esp on a turbocharged car

[dense shard]

Eh, ideally the muffler itself won't provide any more backpressure.

Then again a turbo'd car is already slightly muffled by virtue of the turbo itself.

[normal temple]

but when you block one side, that increases the back pressure by a lot

At least to my mind

[dense shard]

Well here's my idea.

You have the stock exhaust, you just install a Y-pipe at some point in it.

One side goes with the stock flow. The other side basically dumps direct.

You block that bit off when you don't want noise.

[normal temple]

you can achieve the same result with one valve at one section that opens up

[dense shard]

But that could sound kinda sharty. I'd say just get a nice sporty muffler and strike a balance between noise and sound.

Valve tho isn't the most reliable.

Personally I say skip the bullshit, and just go with a muffler. lol

and if we're talking WRXs... get unequal length headers. It's not the noise with subarus, it's the sound.

[normal temple]

They are unequal length stock

[dense shard]

Not the new ones.

[normal temple]

they mentioned '05

[dense shard]

Well yeah 05' is a different story.

I doubt active exhaust would help too much with making them louder. I'd say just get a muffler.

[indigo coral]

I am considering getting brand new bumpers and trying to get them professionally painted @dense shard

[dense shard]

That would work.

[indigo coral]

To refresh my cars aesthetics a bit

[dense shard]

Go for it.

[indigo coral]

Previous owner bumped into some stuff lol.

Just the plastic bumpers, but it's kinda ugly.

I'd rather not spend like 1k$ on it though

[fathom socket]

Ok thanks

[dense shard]

I would go to a local paint shop.

And avoid any chains since they have some serious quality issues from what I can tell.

[indigo coral]

hell the car is only worth like 300$ according to kbb lol

ok

[dense shard]

For paint, expensiver is betterer.

[indigo coral]

hm. Maybe I'll just live with it if i might be getting the 2007

[dense shard]

true

[indigo coral]

Though that one as a cosmetic flaw I'd need to repair too

[dense shard]

If you are getting the 07, no reason to upgrade your current ride.

All the more reason to wait.

[indigo coral]

Dent below the tail light in the back, pushed in but not creased so it could probably be pulled out and touched up and look decent

On the 2007

(bumped into their deck 🙄)

Right in that vicinity

[dense shard]

that car needs a good wash and wax

[indigo coral]

That's not the actual car

[dense shard]

oh, lol

[indigo coral]

That's just a pic I pulled from Google

Aside from the dent in the 2007, it's in damn near brand new condition

Only 52k (iirc) miles too

[dense shard]

nice

[indigo coral]

If I get the 2007 I'm certainly gonna pay to have that dent fixed, since the rest of the car warrants it

The paint is in excellent condition and whatnot

need to replace the trunk popper button rubber cover tho

It went gooey and nasty

Easy to do though I think

[dense shard]

It'll require a few screws I imagine.

[indigo coral]

2 Philips head screws but the hard part is gonna be finding an angle to get at them

[dense shard]

...

May I unironically recommend an ifixit kit?

[indigo coral]

Probably will be sometbing like that yeah

[dense shard]

The mako set actually has a flexible extension thingie.

[indigo coral]

Maybe it's easy to get at once you try, just looks awkward

Ok

I need to buy one at some point anyways

Or, the so eloquently named, IFucksIt kit (buy all the parts off AliExpress)

[dense shard]

The one I have is only 35 dollars.

[indigo coral]

oh nice

[dense shard]

Comes with the flexy extension bit.

I know I'm sounding shilly, but the quality is really nice. lol

[indigo coral]

nah that doesn't sound shilly

[charred depot]

my cars 10 years old and a rusted subframe is already a MOT item :^|

[stoic ledge]

Classic

[misty jungle]

Its a full blown merc for 15k

[devout atlas]

nice

I'd preer something cheaper

like a panther body

[fathom socket]

buy it

its an merc

[bitter compass]

merc for 15k 👀

[devout atlas]

merc for 5k

engine rebuild for 20k

[bitter compass]

interior looks so full

[devout atlas]

the equus is just a better merc

[stoic ledge]

I like the Equus

[devout atlas]

HOOolDen

UtE TimE

[stoic ledge]

yes pls

[autumn talon]

ugh 🥵

[stoic ledge]

https://youtu.be/5adxolr9pYc

[dense shard]

I'm amazed they're bringing the Harrier over.

[stoic ledge]

Well they did the same with the first 2 versions

[dense shard]

as a Lexus, sure.

Mind you the RX has moved on to a new platform since.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I know

But it's a cross-over, and everybody wants one, so why wouldn't they

[civic girder]

Idk how much I like that front end

[indigo coral]

My car is deadass a rebadged harrier

Toyota harrier

Rx300

[fathom socket]

how much

is

the

car

[stoic ledge]

3

[fathom socket]

3 wat

[dense shard]

yes

[stoic ledge]

Exactly

[tight cypress]

bwoah chat aint ded

@stoic ledge come here

i need ya to drive 350km with kaas 2

[stoic ledge]

@sudden plaza how big is your D2's fuel tank? "Ours" seems to be bigger than the listed 45 liters 🤔

I'm here $avage

[tight cypress]

cant see ya here

[stoic ledge]

🧀

[tight cypress]

hmh

with naraku cyl i get more powar

[stoic ledge]

🤔

[tight cypress]

inlet is bout 1mm smaller on naraku but still more powar

[stoic ledge]

[tight cypress]

@silk gate so after 150km i can rev it a bit right?

[stoic ledge]

100% full throttle

[tight cypress]

n0

tried da peak lil bit

feels so fockin powerful

[stoic ledge]

https://media.tenor.com/images/f4a6616bbbd6b823890beeb8cc7b028f/tenor.gif

[fathom socket]

is the Porsche Boxster 1998 worth buying?

[dense shard]

sure?

If you don't mind putting the work in to keep a 20 year old car running.

[fathom socket]

hmm

what else that old could I buy

a mazda mx5

and I ran out of ideas

[dense shard]

Anything old is gonna require some repairs.

Mazda is a nice choice tho.

There's also a Nissan 350z and 370z.

By all accounts they are pretty durable and reliable.

[tight cypress]

meh old cars dont require repairs

my -98 megane is still runnin good without any repairs

lol

[dense shard]

They require upkeep. And after a point you'll start getting into non-consumable repairs such as bushings, shocks, timing belts, and the such.

[tight cypress]

mine doesnt

everythin still works

without maintaining it at all

[stoic ledge]

I also assume you drive it daily for many miles

[silk gate]

@tight cypress Yes

[tight cypress]

@stoic ledge yes

totally

[stoic ledge]

Cool

[stoic ledge]

https://media.tenor.com/images/f8d9dc650dbbfe2f02a1c588b08fd79a/tenor.gif

[fathom socket]

@vague lava yugo is a good car

If u compare th what we had to drive back then

[dense shard]

Compared to what... Civic, Corolla, Escort?

[vague lava]

Compared to a old 30's coupe from the scrapyard the yeah it was great

They drove even though underpowered, slow, and yet somewhat reliable if you could find parts when they left the US

[sudden plaza]

@stoic ledge there is an optional 55

I have the 55

[stoic ledge]

Then it's probably a 55L tank

[stoic ledge]

@sudden plaza sorry for yet another ping, but are you sure it's 55L? I only see an optional 62L tank in the price list

[sudden plaza]

or something like that xD

[stoic ledge]

I thought the 62L tank was only with the Business Sport

But it's here as well

[sudden plaza]

this is the pricelist from the 2016 MY

[stoic ledge]

Cool nice timing xD

[sudden plaza]

hahaha

[stoic ledge]

But yeah I have the same list

And it's 62L indeed

I knew the Business Sport had it as standard

And although I've looked through the list 38023 times, I didn't notice it before on the other price list

Although it could also be a V40 Business Sport, seems to work out equipment wise

[sudden plaza]

I have the business summum with a sport styling package

[stoic ledge]

As far as I could figure out, the Business Sport is the Business R-Design + Winter Line + Business Connect Pack + 62L fuel tank

[sudden plaza]

nice

Lets found out what mine has

[stoic ledge]

Color Passion Red I'd say? Otherwise idk xD

[sudden plaza]

ye

[stoic ledge]

"ours" is:

• Business Sport OR Business R-Design + Winter Line + Business Connect Pack + 62L fuel tank
• 18" Ixion II
• Onyx Black Metallic
• Exterior Styling Kit "R-Design"
• Spare Tyre

That's it I'd say, it's not super full equipped

[sudden plaza]

Got it

[stoic ledge]

[sudden plaza]

al the option except for the standard stuff thats in the summum itself or the different lines

[stoic ledge]

Nice!

[sudden plaza]

41K new

[stoic ledge]

Not the Intellisafe Pro Line, Scandinavian Line.... First owner cheaped out

Jk

[sudden plaza]

hahah

[stoic ledge]

V40's with adaptive cruise are rare I've found out

[sudden plaza]

A friend of mine has it on his summum D4

but he doesnt have anything else

[stoic ledge]

Classic

[sudden plaza]

like a base summum D4 with the intellisafe pro line