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stoic ledge
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Put LPG in it

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Gg ez

fathom socket
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I think I'm gonna to get a focus

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there are no LPG stations in switzeralnd

stoic ledge
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You got a focus?

fathom socket
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yes

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but I can't get it to switzerland

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it's not worth

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the car needs repairs

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mostly bodywork

stoic ledge
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65 LPG stations in Switzerland

fathom socket
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65 LPG stations in Switzerland
@stoic ledge I have more in my city

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LPG in mx-5

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it must be my daily driver

stoic ledge
fathom socket
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and i just need trunk space

stoic ledge
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Get a Dacia Logan MCV on LPG

fathom socket
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I want a sporty car

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and also

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they don't sell them in switzerland

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there is a mazda mx-5 on sale for 2800chf

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bt it's sold as untested

stoic ledge
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Switzerland is a strange country for cars

fathom socket
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and also it's sold by a car repair shop

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I can get a focus in good shape for 500 chf

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while for my beater i've paid around 1300 euros

stoic ledge
tight cypress
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i paid 0€ for my beater

indigo coral
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Same

fathom socket
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@tight cypress lucky you

tight cypress
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not really

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junkyards full of em

fathom socket
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someone paid 6000 euros for a car that was worth like -1000 euros

tight cypress
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mine was prob worth 200€ lmao

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it was running perfectly and not really rusted out

fathom socket
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literally the engine was ruined beyond saving

indigo coral
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I got my car for free, might be upgrading to an 07 though

stoic ledge
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Got my car for only €7k

indigo coral
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had to spend a bunch of money fixing it tho

stoic ledge
indigo coral
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(like 400$ so far)

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pads, rotors, calipers, spark plugs, valve cover gasket, pcv valve, and rear sway bar linkage

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oof

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lots of fix

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lol

fathom socket
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I had to replace clutch

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and now I have to sell it and buy a new one

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because taxes

stoic ledge
indigo coral
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Rip

fathom socket
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I would pay more for import taxes for my car than the car is worth

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and also needs a lot of body work

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and fixing cars in switzerland is very expensive

indigo coral
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If I get the 2007 it needs to be aligned. It's decently low miles and in decent condition

fathom socket
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and I can't go to corona land to fix it

indigo coral
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overall it's a nice car

stoic ledge
indigo coral
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270hp + better trans = much faster

stoic ledge
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Over 3x as much as mine

indigo coral
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it weighs a lot more than yours too

stoic ledge
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I have a better transmission as well

indigo coral
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lies

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the trans in that one is actually competent

stoic ledge
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Manual > Automatic

sudden plaza
dense shard
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A manual is only as competent as the person driving.

indigo coral
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The RX 350 isn't a bad car

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at all

stoic ledge
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A manual is only as competent as the person driving.
I'm the best driver in the world ofcourse

indigo coral
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lies^

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runs

stoic ledge
dense shard
delicate sinew
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Toyota was onto something

fathom socket
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I have something to play with in my car

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I really wish I had manual heater

fathom socket
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whats that called a jumper?

flint sable
crisp cedar
flint sable
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Mmm

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Myes

wild tiger
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Mpg is 0 as 0 miles were being moved per gallon

misty jungle
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This DB5 was crashed recently

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really hurts to see

split pine
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that was in 2015, i think it was repaired

devout atlas
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mhmm lincoln town car

fathom socket
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mmmmm Lincoln

devout atlas
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mhmmm

fathom socket
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Can someone tell me why?

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Like Civic is a good car

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But it's so i posibble to find any of them in good shape with stock parts

tight cypress
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torbo civic

devout atlas
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buy a crown vic

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ahem

fathom socket
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Yay

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300k

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But im 200km too late

fathom socket
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...

tight cypress
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300k

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huh

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my -98 megane got 220k

fair bronze
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After the odometer got rolled back a few times

stoic ledge
devout atlas
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After the odometer got rolled back a few times
@fair bronze that's classic Peugeot driver

fair bronze
devout atlas
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ah yes

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let me now be an insufferable idiot

fair bronze
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Maniac!

devout atlas
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I see your pfp

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It's from that cheap used cabrio challenge

fair bronze
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Yeah that's my temp covid special

devout atlas
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right?

fair bronze
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Exactly

devout atlas
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all 3 idiots showed up with the same car

fair bronze
devout atlas
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and it wasn't a jaaag

fair bronze
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325i cabriolet

devout atlas
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yes

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it's a bimmer

fathom socket
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My car has some serious rust issues

fair bronze
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At least it's nothing structual

fathom socket
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It's eating my door away

fair bronze
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oof

fathom socket
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My fender was eaten away

fair bronze
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What car is it

fathom socket
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2004 Ford Focus Mk1.5

devout atlas
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I smell a lancia

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oh

fair bronze
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Ah a Focus

devout atlas
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I thought that you had a lancia

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with that rust

fair bronze
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Ford did have some rust issues back then

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It's a shame because imo they're good cars

fathom socket
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Airbag

devout atlas
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pfft

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imagine having airbags

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and not being impaled by the steering column

fair bronze
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Airbags are capitalist

devout atlas
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toyota previa gang

fair bronze
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Mid-engine showoff

fathom socket
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It's a simple fix

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Pull the Fuse out

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But srsly

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I'm so freaking tall it was the only car that I would fit in

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At the price point

fair bronze
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You must be gigantic

fathom socket
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I'm someting like 193 cm

fair bronze
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big oof

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That's pretty tall

fathom socket
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Ind how much is in the freedom units

fair bronze
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I don't do freedom units

fathom socket
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But there are people that do

fair bronze
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It's 6 ft 4

fathom socket
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I could not fit inside the Opel corsa c At all

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Stupid Auto cucumber

fair bronze
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Be glad

fathom socket
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I bearly fit in a Clio

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It was hell

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I had to drive a renault clio 3 And 2 before

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I wanted Honda fit/jazz

fair bronze
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That does sound like a terrible experience with your height

fathom socket
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But they tend to have problems

fair bronze
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The first gen does have some leakage problems

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Second gen is fine

fathom socket
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All Hondas tend to rust away

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At least the pre 2006 ones

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Because we used to have harsh winters

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And a lot of road salts

fair bronze
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That's why you clean it

fathom socket
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I'm lucky that my Ford still has a floor

fair bronze
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lol

fathom socket
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They tend to be one of cars that rusts the most

fair bronze
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I see MK lurking in there 👀

stoic ledge
fathom socket
fair bronze
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Wassup

fathom socket
stoic ledge
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Still alive GWseremePeepoGGERS

fair bronze
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Great to hear

stoic ledge
fair bronze
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I haven't been here much lately

stoic ledge
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I've noticed

fathom socket
stoic ledge
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xD

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inb4 quarantined

fair bronze
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Haven't seen Tesla boy around

stoic ledge
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Nope

fair bronze
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That's great news

stoic ledge
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I think he even left LTT

fathom socket
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For me electric plug-ins are the future

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At least for now

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And also

fair bronze
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Hybrids in general

fathom socket
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Charging an electric car in poland is more expensive than gasoline

stoic ledge
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No Tesla is superior, you must know that

fair bronze
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Ah yes, Tesla is the only manufacturer of good cars

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Everything else bad

stoic ledge
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Yes

fathom socket
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I hate lithium ion batteries

stoic ledge
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Everything else is bad

fathom socket
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Tesla should use molten sodium battery

stoic ledge
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Tesla should use a gas tank

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Wait

fair bronze
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LS swap all the Teslas

fathom socket
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Get a trailer generator

stoic ledge
fair bronze
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Or even rotary swap

stoic ledge
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MX-30 rotary range extender

fair bronze
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I like your thinking

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That battery is useless

stoic ledge
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eastman entered the chat

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They are bringing a rotary range extender, you know that right?

fair bronze
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I've heard some vague stories about that

stoic ledge
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no joke

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Engine goes brrr

fair bronze
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I wonder what its fuel economy is

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They're not the most efficient engines

stoic ledge
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I think they can be for a specific task/implementation

fair bronze
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Maybe at a low load/rpm

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Then torque isn't all that important

stoic ledge
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Dorito go brrr

fair bronze
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Imma tell you anyway!

fathom socket
stoic ledge
devout atlas
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just get a town car

stoic ledge
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nein

dense shard
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ewwwww

stoic ledge
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👀

dense shard
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It's peak pre-boomer luxury.

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Oversized, under powered, over priced.

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It's the ultimate rental.

stoic ledge
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Reliable tho

dense shard
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If you didn't beat on them too much, sure.

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ex-cop cars tended to be beat to hell and back. They didn't take it easy... ever.

devout atlas
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Oversized, under powered, over priced.
@dense shard is 2k overpriced?

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the two options that I'd choose

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for 2k

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would be a town car

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or a s80

dense shard
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oh used

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For 2k it's gonna be unfun.

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Why not go for a Lexus or Toyota?

devout atlas
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volvo s80

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because I'm 64

dense shard
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All the more reason to get an Avalon.

fair bronze
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Mentally or...?

devout atlas
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b o t h

dense shard
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Avalon is the last car a lot of old people buy.

devout atlas
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anyway

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gtg

fair bronze
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aight

stoic ledge
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Aight

sudden plaza
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Poah

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All clean

tight cypress
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uh oh uh

stoic ledge
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Poah

tight cypress
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this

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no gud

stoic ledge
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Da's mien merk

tight cypress
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@stoic ledge wanna see kaas piston and cylinder?

stoic ledge
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Sure

tight cypress
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cylinder vid inkoming yes

stoic ledge
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👀

tight cypress
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damn it takes long to send

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piston vid is sideway for some reason

stoic ledge
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Pogey looks fine to me Pogey

tight cypress
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need to flip that around

fathom socket
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Something "painful" to watch

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The car just looks like it went trough sandpaper wash

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And it's difficult to clean

civic spoke
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I really just give me car a power wash every week or so.

fathom socket
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This car get so dirty

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I need something to wash the drit that got stuck on paint

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And I live in apartament complex

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And I can't wash my car there

civic spoke
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My car gets stupid dirty in the winter. Since I'm doing a minimum of 500 km's a week.

trim fractal
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need a delorean

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thats the car i want the most

civic spoke
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Overrated. tbh

stoic ledge
tight cypress
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cant find better for the price at that shop

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too late

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150e gone

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any idea what the old cyl looked like

flint sable
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Wish they actually made this concept into a real thing

fathom socket
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i mean mercedes kinda did

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but i see where ur goin

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6 wheels is just better guys

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its like having 4 wheels

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but

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get this

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2 MORE SPINNY THINGS

civic girder
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why not have 4 wheels and two triangles

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everything spins all the time

dense shard
stoic ledge
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Interior looks extremely dated

dense shard
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Standard Lexus.

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As long as it's well put together, I'm willing to deal with slightly older tech.

stoic ledge
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Sure, but it's basically the same as the 2013 interior. Which is unacceptable imho

frank tundra
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Well i mean

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Slightly nicer toyota

fathom socket
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its interior looks quite nice imo

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i think i just like the whole lexus layout though

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the ls and lc both are my 2 favourite interiors

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that idrive knob feels linusPerfect

indigo coral
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The interior is nice

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And yeah the new IS is nice

fathom socket
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there we have it guys

indigo coral
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It doesn't look dated to me

fathom socket
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IS gets a very nice all around in the ltt discord

indigo coral
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I may or may not be your resident Lexus fanboy though

fathom socket
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now lets put it on the cool wall

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damn there isnt a cool wall

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can we get an LTT cool wall please

hollow flax
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I have rgb in my car

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Means I'm fast

civic girder
devout atlas
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get a crown vic

indigo coral
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rotary swap crown vic

dense shard
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Get something good. Pogey

devout atlas
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monte carlo is super anti american

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muh cheezburger

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murica

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freedom ain't free

indigo coral
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I mean the crown vic is 1. ugly and 2. slow, but at least it's reliable

fathom socket
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wtf is that ugli thing on the left

devout atlas
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muh modular v8

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brr

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freedom

indigo coral
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its a reliable motor

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but it aint fast

fathom socket
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aren't reiable engines slowish

indigo coral
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sometimes

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though the motor in the GS F is reliable but it's pretty fast

devout atlas
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huh

indigo coral
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2UR-GSE

dense shard
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oh please

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anti-American?

devout atlas
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at least the modular v8 doesn't kill itself like a rx8 rotary at 80k

indigo coral
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ngl the 2UR-GSE is a goat motor

devout atlas
indigo coral
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It's in the LC 500 too

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sounds good, lots of power, reliable as fuck

dense shard
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Those things were made in Canada the last 3 years.

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It's more American to buy a Camry or Accord than it is to buy a Town Car.

fathom socket
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mmy zetez 1.8 is still going after 300k km

devout atlas
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why do you not want someone to experience luxury with crappy mpg?

dense shard
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Because I am experiencing luxury with brilliant MPG>

indigo coral
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My 1MZ-FE is going "strong" after 137k

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(still slow)

dense shard
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There is nothing a Town Car can offer me.

devout atlas
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you have a corolla

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that costs 25k+

dense shard
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a Corolla XSE.

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23k.

indigo coral
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the 2020 corolla has a nicer interior than the crown vic

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lmfao

devout atlas
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the town car will be mine for $4k

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and will have that classy floaty land yacht appeal

dense shard
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Yeah... a decade old used car.

fathom socket
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I wanna to experience the most raw and analog car as I can

indigo coral
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A crown vic isn't classy.

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Not even remotely.

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A crown vic makes you look trashy, not classy.

devout atlas
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it's a floaty land yacht

dense shard
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Or ex cop.

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I can remove my shocks, and get floaty.

devout atlas
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I'm fine with that

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but

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the thing is

dense shard
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But I don't like to get motion sick while driving.

devout atlas
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I'd just get a s80 for 3k

indigo coral
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I'm either getting a 2007 RX 350 to replace my 1999 RX 300, or saving up for a Genesis G70 3.3T

dense shard
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Hell if I want syrupy luxury, I'll buy Falcon's Lexus.

devout atlas
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that's my go-to cheap car

indigo coral
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the one I might get is in excellent condition and has barely been driven

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52k miles in a 2007 ain't bad at all

dense shard
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do it.

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52k on a 13 year old car is pretty damn good actually.

devout atlas
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monte

dense shard
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If I ever end up in a Panther Platform.

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It'll be a winter beater.

devout atlas
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how will you diss the s80?

dense shard
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The S80?

indigo coral
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volvo s80?

devout atlas
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there's no way to diss a v 0 l v 0

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yes

dense shard
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It was great in the late 90s.

indigo coral
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Well volvo aint known for reliability

dense shard
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But by the mid 10s, it was an ancient platform.

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And it was a Ford Volvo.

indigo coral
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but I'd take an S80 over the Crown Vic

dense shard
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Yeah.

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I'd rather get the new S90.

devout atlas
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I'd take a s80 over a corolla

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or a camry

indigo coral
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I'd take an LS over a Volvo.

dense shard
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I wouldn't.

indigo coral
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Lol.

devout atlas
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I've spent my entire life sitting in goddamn toyotas

dense shard
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so?

indigo coral
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The new LS500h is f**king stunning

devout atlas
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I'm sick of them

dense shard
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ok?

devout atlas
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so no toyotas for me

dense shard
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They're dead reliable, and the new era of Toyota is a looker.

indigo coral
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Lexus has been knocking it out of the park these last couple years with the exception of the LX/GX

devout atlas
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unless it's a century

dense shard
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Well LX and GX are last ... no before that decade.

devout atlas
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They're dead reliable, and the new era of Toyota is a looker.
@dense shard 'new' era. I'm talking about 4k cheapo cars

dense shard
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ok

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I'm not.

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I need reliable, durable, and warranty.

indigo coral
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Oh shit

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the RX 350 is under-rated for power

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it's rated at 270hp, but the motor is specced to produce between 295 and 314

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Incidentally the motor in the RX 350 I might get is the same one that's in the Evora

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lol

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2GR-FE

devout atlas
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talking of the evora

dense shard
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if I'm lucky I'll be shopping for a winter beater soon.

devout atlas
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I saw a wrecked one going for 500

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if I'm lucky I'll be shopping for a winter beater soon.
@dense shard panther platform time

dense shard
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for a winter beater, sure.

devout atlas
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my first car will be a beater anyhoo

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because poverty spec

indigo coral
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my car has all the options poggers

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except for traction control which is fine by me

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It doesn't need it

devout atlas
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traction control is for people who want to live

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talking of living

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how's the 98 viper?

indigo coral
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well, I have an all wheel drive SUV with no horsepower

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It does pretty well in the snow and i have never broke the tires loose w/o snow

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traction control is useless on my car

dense shard
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I might be finding out soon.

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If I ever move north.

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I'm 100% either getting winter storage for the 'rolla or getting her a garage for the winter.

indigo coral
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I am an awful human and still drive my car in the winter

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Instead of getting a seperate car for winter

dense shard
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Washington isn't a salt belt state tho?

indigo coral
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Of course, our "winter" is 45F and rain

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Soooo

dense shard
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right lol

indigo coral
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It snows like

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Once a year

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Though last year was fucking nuts

dense shard
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Winter beater mainly applies to the Dakotas east.

indigo coral
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Like seriously nuts

dense shard
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no kidding

indigo coral
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It was insane

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30in of snow

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Considering most winters we get literally 1 inch

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Though my car does surprisingly well in snow

dense shard
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No surprise.

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AWD, heavy, grounds clearance.

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Maybe I'll try to find myself an RX. lol

indigo coral
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Get a 2nd gen RX

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The 350 is better

dense shard
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I'll get whatever is cheaper... provided this is an issue.

indigo coral
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Get the 350, the 330 is a different engine and is a bit less reliable

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Might be somewhat difficult to find a cheap one with low miles though

dense shard
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that's fine

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This will be a second car, so mileage won't be a concern this time.

indigo coral
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Lots of them have ridiculous miles because they're fantastic commuter cars

dense shard
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I could swing a highway Lexus.

indigo coral
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I'm seeing RX 350s for 7k-ish with 150k miles

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Found one at 6k with 200k highway miles

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Optioned out RX 350 2008

dense shard
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oof

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Okay maybe I'll stick to a panther. lol

indigo coral
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The first gen is cheaper but less polished

dense shard
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not a concern.

indigo coral
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1300$ for a 2000 RX 300 with 179k

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Oof

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It's a bit rough around the edges though

dense shard
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As long as it is mechanically sound.

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But that's counting chickens before they hatch.

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lol, g'night

indigo coral
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Goodnight

stoic ledge
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IS gets a very nice all around in the ltt discord
GWsetmyxPeepoCry

golden current
stoic ledge
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👀

devout atlas
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AUD1

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UWU

civic spoke
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Saw a dark green Lexus LS400 yesterday. Was a damn nice looking car.

fathom socket
fathom socket
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Me speedometer broke

fringe shuttle
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Dude that's just not nice

median egret
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@fathom socket good outfit yh

fossil imp
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lul

devout atlas
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self driving via comma.ai
@fathom socket I don't get it

civic spoke
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I would probably still know what speed I was going, simply from using RPM and gear.

civic spoke
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You know what? The VW ID.3 is probably to go-to EV car.

flint sable
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Sigh Tesla fanboys denying the panel gaps, paint issues, and calling road and track “a bunch of idiots”

civic spoke
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Actually somewhat tempted to get a ID.3

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It sounds like a solid EV.

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Matt Farah talked about how real premium brands are different to Chery/Tesla, etc.

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TL;DR - People like Porsche do a lot more QC.

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Then they talk to the people who make the parts, and they get it fixed ASAP.

stoic ledge
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You know what? The VW ID.3 is probably to go-to EV car.
@civic spoke if they can ever sell it pog

civic spoke
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What do you mean? Because of the whole Diesel scandal?

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Dieselgate is a big reason why VW is pushing so hard towards EV now.

stoic ledge
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No, their software issue

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With them all sitting in the lot, not being able to fix them

civic spoke
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Haven't heard about that.

stoic ledge
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It was already going on in 2019

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Built ID.3 which can't be sold yet due to software problems

fathom socket
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nice

civic spoke
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That's a big F.

fathom socket
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i wonder what the actual problem is

civic spoke
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No idea.

fathom socket
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it might be to do with the fact its suppposed ot be able to update like teslas do

civic spoke
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Would still be a great car, if they get that software thing sorted.

fathom socket
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yeah i cant wait to see them on the road

civic spoke
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I'd honestly be tempted to get it as a daily for my commute.

fathom socket
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if i could even hope to afford one id probably get one

civic spoke
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It mentions that we get three years of free charging. Which is big.

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Also mentioned one year, which is also nice.

fathom socket
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thats pretty gosh darn nice

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apparently 150 employees are getting one as the final stage of testing so its almost close

civic spoke
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What I would pay for the ID.3 each month would probably be what I currently pay in fuel.

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Fuel+Congestion charges.

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Since I do 500 km a week.

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More or less.

fathom socket
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thats basically a free car

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pure profit ensues

civic spoke
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I guess the insurance would be a thing to pay.

fathom socket
#

wouldnt you already be paying that though?

civic spoke
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Yeah, I would.

#

I just wonder how many miles I would put on an ID.3 in something like three years.

#

I guess 25,000~30,000 km's a year?

fathom socket
#

i mean with free electricity you could go around the world if the infrastructure allowed it

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yeah seems doable

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you'd definitely end up saving quite a bit of money by driving 90km without paying for fuel

civic spoke
#

Insurance be like "wtf you drive that much a year for?"

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I would probably take it road tripping as well. At least within reasonable distances.

fathom socket
#

that AR heads up display looks cool but idk how it will actualyl be

stoic ledge
#

The ID.3 doesn't look to bad on paper, but it's also not a major leap forward like VW made it seem on forehand... Kia/Hyundai has basically the exact same performance for the same price

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Friend of mine has ordered a 1st Edition tho Pogey

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He has no delivery date yet... Better yet, nothing is final yet

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Mid July his order will be finalized for a 1st One edition, which should be one of the first ID.3's

fathom socket
#

ince

stoic ledge
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He now has an e-up!

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But like, one of the first with a 60 mile range OMEGALUL

fathom socket
#

damn

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the newer one is like 2 and a bit of that

stoic ledge
#

Yeah

fathom socket
#

guess he gonna feel that big range increase though

stoic ledge
#

Battery size nearly doubles as well

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Definitely lol

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Funny thing tho: he also has a Rav4 diesel KEKW

fathom socket
#

yay the ol rav 4

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i wonder if they allowed the older e up to get the newer batteries for a fee

#

i doubt it but it sounds like a nice thing to do

stoic ledge
#

As far as I know, they don't

fathom socket
#

rip

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guess thats a job for rich rebuilds

stoic ledge
fathom socket
#

yay

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I'm gonna to have to sell my car to junkyard for 2 cents

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a perfectly working good car

#

but I wanna to eat it

stoic ledge
#

Why GWsetmyxPeepoCry

fathom socket
#

yes why

dense shard
#

facebook marketplace bro

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500 dollars, boom.

fathom socket
#

noone is gonna to buy a car with 300k km on it

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and also

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it's because of the stereotype that cars with 300k km thay are no good

fathom socket
#

Hello, do anybody in this group has hands on Evo ?

fallow sail
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wish i had lol

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does someone know anyone who rocks a dog box?

fathom socket
#

OH YES GIVE ME MORE

frail shore
#

if anyone knows this, i was wanting to get an 80s car, but that being pre 1996 i was wondering if there would still be a way to use any electronic engine diagnostic tools

civic girder
#

If the car actually has electronic fuel injection, then yes. You will need a fancy backwards compatible OBD2 code reader that can interface with the special adapter they used back then. @frail shore

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If it has mechanical fuel injection or is carbureted, you will have zero computer diagnostics. At best you'll have a few basic warning lights that tell you practically nothing

dense shard
#

Some cars had some weird built in code reader.

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Which required black magic to access, read, and then understand.

carmine summit
#

My car was built in 1997. I have an OBD2 port, but it does basically nothing because I don't really have an ECU. Honestly working on old cars really isn't hard, you probably won't need electronic diagnostics anyways. Other than maybe a multimeter.

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What car in particular were you looking at getting?

frail shore
#

oh so its a 1986 Nissan 300ZX, i couldnt find an owners manual that wasnt a virus so i couldnt find out exactly the electronic systems in it

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but i did find that there was an obd port of some sort in the car you can use to get a morse code readout if you do some wiring stuff with it

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mainly because when inspecting cars before you buy them you want to make sure they wont have a major issue and all that but thats not really an ideal way

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oh also only reason im looking at this car specifically, is it has that retro 80s design, was one of the fastest production cars in the 80s, and its stereo system looks pretty cool

dense shard
#

Rev up your quakery!

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oh apparently Nissans had some weird trick to reading codes from what I hear.

frail shore
#

yeah you shove a paper clip in 2 connectors and it reads out in morse code

civic girder
#

Just yeet the electronics and convert to carb

dense shard
#

dunno about paperclips

civic girder
#

yea, if its OBD1 you should just need an ODB1 reader

frail shore
#

yeah its not an obd 1

civic girder
#

I vote for carb swap

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btw, there's the Z31 trouble code guide

frail shore
#

i figure that the owners manual will probably also have them

civic girder
#

depends

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emphasis on depends

frail shore
#

as i said i tried to find it but everywhere just seemed to be a virus

civic girder
#

normal owners manuals are basic info on maintaining and operating the vehicle

#

9 times out of 10 they don't tell you shit about fixing them

frail shore
#

that is true

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i was thinking about getting a 96-97 model because i could diagnose it easier

civic girder
#

and 9 times out of 10, average Joe isn't reading OBD codes for his Honda Civic

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i was thinking about getting a 96-97 model because i could diagnose it easier
@frail shore Z32?

frail shore
#

the same model but a later year

civic girder
#

wot

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no, the 300zx went into a second generation at the turn of the decade

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Z31 is the 84-89

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Z32 is the 90-whenever it ended

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its a completely different car

frail shore
visual pendant
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love it

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Sexy

civic girder
#

the only thing similar is they both used the VG30. But the Z31 had a single cam version while the Z32 had a double cam version. Z31 turbo also only was single turbo, but the Z32 turbo was twin turbo

frail shore
#

listen im not like getting into the mechanical specifics im just going off what is the cheapest option

civic girder
#

neither is going to be a real cheap option tbh

frail shore
#

the 86 goes for around 3-5k

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the other is more around the 10k area

civic girder
#

and will need about the same in parts

#

Z32 will cost more upfront but will hopefully need less work

frail shore
#

oh yeah im aware of the parts and stuff that will need service

civic girder
#

I'd almost recommend a MkIII Supra instead

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or a Celica

frail shore
#

actually that was my 2nd option

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the 80s supra

civic girder
#

What are you looking for in a car here?

frail shore
#

i wasnt going on a specific year since there is a few i like but it will depend on availability at the time

civic girder
#

track car, street cruiser?

magic arrow
#

so for even more cars that are not reasonable

frail shore
#

i mean as my first car

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i wanted just something from the 80s that is cheap and is sporty (in looks mainly)

civic girder
#

oh yikes

#

uh, as a first car, I would say avoid anything pre 2000

frail shore
#

i mean i wanted something older to get experience working on cars

civic girder
#

chances are you won't be able to afford parts and maintenance and will be forced into getting a trashed one that could be moments away from an expensive repair

frail shore
#

with the car only being 3k i could be able to afford the parts with a minimum wage car

civic girder
#

ye, get like a 2002 something that doesn't run. Fix it and daily it until you have the money to spare for a secondary project car

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A civic that cranks but doesn't start, perfect for first car that needs work

frail shore
#

the main thing though

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now thats a hot piece of 80s engineering

civic girder
#

dat stereo that most likely won't work

frail shore
#

oh yeah the belts give out in 25 ish years

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unless its direct drive

civic girder
#

when I got my RX-7, it had a replacement radio

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it didn't work at all

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and the radio was from the 90s

frail shore
#

the one thing i hate is when they take out the original stereo and put metallic trash in its place

civic girder
#

🤔

frail shore
#

that stereo right there sells for like 300~ dollars

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because everyone throws it out and now its worth alot

civic girder
#

its worth $300 even if it doesn't work?

frail shore
#

hold on ill check the listing i saw

civic girder
#

that radio doesn't even look that great lmao

frail shore
#

eh youd have to be into the vintage stereos to like it

civic girder
#

I'd rather update it to something from the late 90s

frail shore
#

oh god 90s stereos are ugly

civic girder
#

retro look and feel with better quality and actual functionality

#

wot

#

I have a 90s stereo in my RX-7

frail shore
civic girder
frail shore
civic girder
#

bruh

frail shore
#

the 90s bubble look just looks terrible IMO

civic girder
#

those are portable cassettes, not car stereos lmao

sour ermine
#

a car with a leaky fart can can be classified as a shart can

frail shore
civic girder
#

That's not that bad

frail shore
#

atleast chad 80s designs

civic girder
#

that pos didn't even work

frail shore
#

ok ngl that does look like hot garbage

#

even if it did work

civic girder
frail shore
#

note taken

civic girder
#

I have the owner's manual for my car, beyond basic info on how to operate the car, it doesn't have a lot of great info. What in-depth info it has, is expanded upon in the shop manuals

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and shop manuals will actually tell you things like: what error codes mean, what to do if something doesn't work, how to replace things, etc

frail shore
#

owners manuals do give useful info like how much and what type of fluids they need

civic girder
#

that's about it

#

but if you have a shop manual, it tells you the same thing and more

frail shore
#

i mean i guess when i come to getting a car ill look more into it

civic girder
#

tbh, I would get something carbureted if I were you

#

80s fuel injection was designed by people on crack

frail shore
#

i mean basically everyone in the 80s was snorting cocaine

civic girder
#

carbs are really simple

#

its all mechanical and/or vacuum controlled. Easy to diagnose

#

You can use smoke to find vacuum leaks, carbs are pretty easy to deal with

frail shore
#

honestly i was looking at the turbo version of the car too

civic girder
#

Yea, I would avoid a Z31 turbo

#

80s turbo cars are big yikes

#

if you get a 80s turbo car, you basically want to rebuild the entire turbo system day one

#

and modernize it completely

frail shore
#

ive actually looked them up and people are always talking about how these cars are durable

#

not sure how true it is but thats what im seeing online

civic girder
#

don't take the word of internet people. For all you know they are diehard fanbois and OCD maintain their car

#

which if you OCD maintain anything, it can be called reliable

#

but if you run into something neglected and abused, even if its a car known for being reliable and strong, its going to have tons of issues

frail shore
#

yeah i mainly when looking at cars online look for if its listed as running well

#

ill probably wind up getting a 90s model so i can diagnose them with an OBD scanner

civic girder
#

Getting an old car that will last more than a few thousand miles is 100% pure luck

#

especially at a good price

#

I would just get something like a 90s Corolla. It'll be old and broken enough you can learn how to fix it, but it'll still be reliable enough to be a daily driver and be a good first car.

#

There's nothing wrong with getting an 80s sports car, especially if that's what you are into.

#

But I HIGHLY recommend you avoid doing so for your first car

#

even as your only car later on, don't do it

#

trust me

frail shore
#

honestly i hear you and head that advice but

#

id rather get a car that needs a bit of work that i will like than get something that runs and despise the car the whole time i own it

civic girder
#

I get that

#

but I do speak from personal experience here

#

right when you need it most, poof, you're stranded

#

I can also tell you how much fun it is to have your engine shut off at 75mph on the highway

frail shore
#

when im looking at cars ill first ask if they have maintenance history for the car and see what it has had done, mileage, gotta look at all that

civic girder
#

You have to do more than that. People can lie, especially if they don't have papers

frail shore
#

well yeah you cant take someones word

civic girder
#

Even if they have papers, what if there's a gap? or the last record is from 20 years ago?

frail shore
#

they will try to say anything to sell the car

civic girder
#

You have to check things yourself

frail shore
#

i mean yeah ive been scammed before (not like really badly) but i know how people are

civic girder
#

if they won't let you investigate, walk away

frail shore
#

thats obv

#

then they are trying to hide the real state of the car

civic girder
#

like if you ever buy a rotary car, if you can't perform or witness a compression test

#

turn away immediately

dense shard
#

owner's manual is always useless.

#

Yo... wait

frail shore
#

honestly i dont think ill have to worry about a rotary engine anytime soon

dense shard
#

nvm...

#

Discord put me up 30 posts.

civic girder
#

Yea, I'm just saying. That kind of thing applies to really any car

indigo coral
#

dont get a first gen rx if you want it to never ever break

#

I've had to do lots of maitenence on my car

#

lol

civic girder
#

Like, if they won't let smack/hammer areas to check for rust

#

its probs fucked

dense shard
#

"no no no no don't touch it... it's uhhhh... you'll hurt it's feelings."

indigo coral
#

lmaoo

frail shore
#

ive watched probably a million videos on car maintenance, repair, restoration, cosmetic work, interior work, i think i know atleast basically what to do with cars at this point

indigo coral
#

when my parents were shopping for Explorers, one dealer wouldn't let them get in in the car

frail shore
#

not everything obv but enough to start

indigo coral
#

and had the windows covered from the inside

#

to "protect the leather"

#

LOL

dense shard
#

"can I test drive it?"
"what, why would you want to do that"

indigo coral
#

lol yeah

frail shore
#

huh? thats the most obv "Im trying to hide how hideous the cars insides are" ive ever heard

civic girder
#

the previous owner of the RX-7 was oblivious as fuck when it came to actual important mechanical stuff. But he was honest and up front

#

in hindsight, if it hadn't been at a dealership for service, I could have been totally screwed over

frail shore
#

i think like nobody at my school actually maintains their cars

#

my brother told me that a girl didnt know she needed to replace her engine oil, and also didnt know how

civic girder
#

I even broke first rule of buying rotary and didn't get compression numbers 😂
All I had to go buy was the dealer tech's word that he tested it and it came back good

#

I got super lucky

frail shore
#

i can say ive done something similar

#

i wanted to buy a tape off ebay and i didnt even check the other pictures or description

civic girder
#

But I can say every issue I've had has been in some way caused by me

frail shore
#

i mean though you dont learn if you dont screw up

civic girder
#

except the pulsating brakes

#

the dealership that serviced the brakes in the early 2000s left one of the screws off

#

I still haven't ordered a replacement

#

the leaky brakes and clutch was also not my fault, as well as the present oil leak

indigo coral
#

ok side note - that was something I was really surprised about on my RX when I did the brake job

civic girder
#

but the fuel pump issues were 100% partially my fault

indigo coral
#

the rotor is held on by the caliper

#

which is weird af

civic girder
#

nah, that's normal

indigo coral
#

i thought there was a whack ton of bolts holding it on

#

yeah i was surprised

civic girder
#

It's actually weird to have something that requires screws

#

unless you go back far enough

#

like my RX-7

#

you need both screws on the brake drum to align it

#

missing one or both and the pedal will pulsate because the drum acts out of round

#

missing both screws and the drum will actually move around and clank

#

oh shid, its getting late. Night bois

indigo coral
#

night

fathom socket
#

Can somebody reccoment me a car that is cheap and reliable beside zetec 1.8 and 2.0 fords

jaunty vapor
#

2.0 I-Vtec

#

Its a very good engine

#

but not the chepest one

fathom socket
#

They are too expensive

#

And also

#

I don't need vtec

#

Or vvt

#

for me the problem also is

#

I need the car to be as maintenance free as it can be

split pine
#

a price range would be nice

fathom socket
#

up to 2000 chf

devout atlas
#

uhrm

#

get a lincoln town car

fathom socket
#

eeem

devout atlas
#

👌

fathom socket
#

this is switzerland

#

not murica

devout atlas
#

oh

fathom socket
#

they tend to be expensive there

devout atlas
#

Freedom Ain't free

fathom socket
#

I saw an edsel for sale

#

I was like

#

WTF

#

btw

#

american people say that yogo was a bad car

devout atlas
#

perodua nippa

fathom socket
#

and this car was one of better cars in poland

devout atlas
#

haha

#

i can imagine

fathom socket
#

out car were so bad

#

immagine buying a flathead engine in 1980's

#

that isn't a landmower

devout atlas
#

well

#

at least it's not a chevette

fathom socket
#

buy a brand new car

#

that's broken from factory

#

wait

#

that's how edsel ended up being like

#

but it was sabotage

devout atlas
#

oof

#

I've been in a corolla my entire life

#

can't relate

fathom socket
#

I've been in a focus most of my life

#

I have driven a renault clio and yaris

#

the first gen yaris and the hybrid one

#

my mom has a first gen yaris

#

but it's too small for me

#

fiat panda was goopd for my size

#

but the car har crap suspention and tiny engine

devout atlas
#

you tall?

#

I'll get a 2002 volvo s80 if I ever move to the states

radiant parrot
#

Tryna decide what car to buy

#

The Laurel has a RB 25

devout atlas
#

laurel because ricer bodykit

radiant parrot
#

Loooool

#

Might have to take it off

#

Go with a custom body kit and under glow

devout atlas
#

I don't like subies

#

so laurel it is

#

for me

radiant parrot
#

Subie got less mileage tho

devout atlas
#

ah

#

same price?

radiant parrot
#

15k more

devout atlas
#

bruh

#

15k

stoic ledge
#

Depending on the currency that's a lot or nearly nothing Pogey

radiant parrot
#

I mean a Kia Optima here costs like $350k around there

misty jungle
#

I like subies tho : D

#

Blobeye STI is widepeepoHappy

devout atlas
loud tinsel
#

Damn that's good

devout atlas
#

muhrica

#

freedom ain't free

dense shard
#

Oh god... the turd based on a failure.

#

A car that marketed itself to an audience that was literally dying out... based on the Lincoln LS, the abject failure.

#

That's a cruiser at best. GT only for those with replaced hips.

fathom socket
#

thoughts on a 351w swapped fc3s?

#

it didn’t have a rotary in it, and I already had the motor

#

Haven’t swapped it yet, building money for parts

dense shard
#

You aren't gonna make any friends.

#

I'm assuming you are talking about an FC RX-7?

fathom socket
#

yeah.

dense shard
#

I mean... it would be a weird flex.

fathom socket
#

I would have kept the rotary, but not only did it not have the wiring harnesses, transmission, or motor but I couldn’t find any within 4 hours of me

dense shard
#

That's fair.

fathom socket
#

plus, I’ve got a freshly rebuilt 351 Windsor out of a freshly wrecked bronco.

#

it’s got about ~$3000 in it

#

so yeah

dense shard
#

Once again. Chances are you aren't gonna make any friends with this move.

fathom socket
#

Would of kept the rotary, but circumstances stack against it

#

Yeahh

dense shard
#

lol

fathom socket
#

Half the people where I live don’t even know what a rotary motor is

dense shard
#

You could ping Eastman and see what he has to say.

#

He's the RotaryGuy™️ here.

fathom socket
#

Aight lol

#

@civic girder

#

this the right one?

dense shard
#

Personally it sounds fun. It's not an FD, FC has no engine, no way to get an engine, and you have a preexisting motor.

#

that's him.

fathom socket
#

Aight

#

but yeah

#

I’m not trying to win any races

sturdy shoal
#

C33 laurel
@radiant parrot this is good

fathom socket
#

I got the car fairly cheap too, just was really hard to transport

#

The last two owners were going to put a Chevy 350 in it and use it as a drag car

civic girder
#

@fathom socket what do you want to do with the car?

fathom socket
#

I’m planning on putting a Ford 351 Windsor in it

#

‘86 FC

civic girder
#

No no no, what activities will you perform with the car, regardless of how it's setup

fathom socket
#

oh

civic girder
#

Drifting, drag, track, etc

fathom socket
#

street use, with potential drag racing/track use

civic girder
#

In that case, there are better chassis for you than the FC

fathom socket
#

another reason for the motor is parts for it are e v e r y w h e r e

#

I mean, I would assume so

#

but I’ve always had an attatchment to the fc

civic girder
#

The RX-7 is a lightweight sports car built for handling and designed with the rotary in mind.

fathom socket
#

Yeah.

civic girder
#

FCs make good track cars, but aren't very good on the strip

#

And putting a heavy V8 up front negates a lot of the benefits the chassis has

fathom socket
#

It won’t always be a drag car

#

I looked at the weights, and considering a lot of the weight it will be gaining roughly 200 pounds

#

from the factory model, however

#

most of that is in the front

civic girder
#

Personally, I would either put a rotary back in it or swap a 4 cylinder in instead of a V8

fathom socket
#

I like the rotary, just really really hard to come upon where I am

civic girder
#

That 200 pounds you gain will throw off the weight distribution more than you think

fathom socket
#

plus, I already had the motor

civic girder
#

It's going to be quite tail happy, especially with all that extra power and torque

#

Not ideal for a track car

fathom socket
#

Yeah

#

the 351 I’m using only has about 200-300 hp, which is still if I remember a fair amount more than the rotary

#

and the torque is probably in excess too

civic girder
#

That's roughly 80-180 more horsepower

fathom socket
#

figured.

civic girder
#

And the torque is going to be in different places on the power curve

#

So you will have no traction in corners because you have torque low down and make more power

#

You'd need to engineer a way to fit wider tires

fathom socket
#

I planned on larger tires

civic girder
#

Which is just not worth it

fathom socket
#

the main making fo this car was for street use/ car shows

civic girder
#

No, I mean like much wider tires

fathom socket
#

I don’t think they would need to be that much wider

#

It would only be getting the occasional run down the drag strip, maybe a track visit every now and again

civic girder
#

You do realize that a stock FC is hard to break loose on stock tires, right? Now double the power and torque

fathom socket
#

Yeah.

civic girder
#

You'd need like 245 minimum to have some semblance of traction

#

And idk if you could even fit tires that wide without extensive mods

fathom socket
#

I planned on 225’s

#

I was going off of the fox body mustang though.

civic girder
#

On the street, a front heavy FC is going to suck imho. The added power you won't be able to use, and the lack of traction could be dangerous

#

Fox Bodies are heavier

#

And are designed with the heavier engine in mind, so weight distribution isn't shit

#

I know a guy who's putting a 2L ecotec turbo in his FC. Much better swap imo

fathom socket
#

I guess

civic girder
#

Less additional weight, better balance of power

fathom socket
#

I’ll probably still stick with the v8 though, and just work through the issues as I go

civic girder
#

He'll be able to rip on the street without breaking laws

fathom socket
#

Yeah

#

where I live, nobody really cares much about anything but speeding

#

We have no noise regulation OR emissions tests

civic girder
#

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

fathom socket
#

My friend has an old c10 with open headers, and nobody could care less.

#

he’s even been pulled over in it, no complaints

civic girder
#

You can do whatever you want, but I'd advise against putting the V8 in an FC for a number of reasons

fathom socket
#

Yeah.

#

I’ll keep your information with me, and look into ways to circumvent that stuff

dense shard
#

oh people cared

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Open headers are a pox upon society.

fathom socket
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you’d be surprised

dense shard
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Loud exhaust is fucking trash