problem with the FC tho is the efi
#cars
normal temple
Vapor lock mint
civic girder
rotaries are proven to be more reliable with carb lmao
my car has never flooded
the only times I've had issues starting have been oil related or spark related
dense shard
Wait I'm wrong. My car is a year old. Manufactured: 6/19
civic girder
what day tho
civic girder
The RX-7 was built on December 13th, 1982
prev owner said he bought it in 82 as well, so it shipped from Japan pretty quick
devout atlas
let me just put this here
civic girder
want
civic girder
yea, the facelift improved it a lot
civic girder
but tbh, I don't even mind the pre-facelift
devout atlas
person
stoic ledge
Ah no mine was made 24-11-2011
stoic ledge
First registered at 17-12-2011
devout atlas
can someone be okay with this?
stoic ledge
So 24 days old
civic girder
I should have taken pics of the old title for the RX-7
it was the original title too
dense shard
I can't find the day my car was produced.
civic girder
p sure the DMV chucked it in the bin after printing my new one lmao
stoic ledge
Sad
I just registered it at a post office in a supermarket
Lol
And I can get a list with all the details on the manufacturers website (+ other websites with the VIN)
dense shard
Yeah it gives me month, but no day.
civic girder
oof
stoic ledge
Uhm not sure, I know you can have tools for that for BMWs, VWs etc
Window sticker isn't a thing in Europe
dense shard
It's legally mandated in the US.
stoic ledge
Yeah I know
civic girder
ayy, Toyota does do it
stoic ledge
Thonk apparently it got fitted with wider tires than there are on there now (195 width)
civic girder
civic girder
Port would typically mean that when the car was taken off the boat when arriving in the US from Japan
stoic ledge
Also: is the trim really called STD? 👀
civic girder
but considering we have a Toyota dealer in Ohio, probs dealer
STD stands for Standard
dense shard
Yeah, only month and year.
stoic ledge
Sad
dense shard
It's the same I think... it is for my car.
civic girder
dang, my car was made in my birth month then
dense shard
It's written on the door sill if you want to double check.
civic girder
but my dad bought it in October
stoic ledge
Mine has the rare WITH OPEL SPECIAL VEHICLE option, which basically non has
dense shard
My car basically rolled off the truck, and into my hands.
dense shard
Built in June, few weeks in shipping, few more weeks in transit, a few days on the lot, and boom... mine.
stoic ledge
Standard equipment probably
dense shard
I drove it from zero miles basically.
stoic ledge
Yeah tbh 3rd party websites often give more details
Idk if there are some for Toybota's
stoic ledge
Official Opel list has like 9 items on it, 3rd party 66 lol
Oof rip
:/
CHASSIS HEAVY DUTY
Ow yeah!
dense shard
normal temple
Mood
dense shard
I love how dealers still try to sell you on disc brakes like they're a special feature.
"This car's best feature is 4 wheels worth of disc brakes with ABS."
civic girder
I mean
dense shard
ffs... ABS is legally mandated. That's NOT a selling point.
civic girder
the Prius has rear drums
dense shard
It's expected.
civic girder
rear disc brakes aren't mandatory afaik
civic girder
🤔
dense shard
I had to replace the brake shoes once.
It was the single worst experience in car maintenance ever.
civic girder
Apparently my RX-7 stops in a shorter distance with rear drums compared to the rear disc ones
dense shard
I was using my feet to hold parts in place, and I still needed help to hold other bits in place.
stoic ledge
Imagine have 4 disc
BRAKE SYSTEM,DISC-FRONT/DRUM-REAR,WITH ABS
normal temple
there's really no difference on stopping power between drums and discs
civic girder
I get what you mean, but tbh its not that bad
dense shard
It was that bad for me. lol
Maybe if I did it more often I wouldn't be in such dire straits.
civic girder
the biggest problem when I did the RX-7's drums was that me and my buddy didn't have needlenose pliers at the time
so he sent me on a mission in his NB Miata to buy needlenose pliers
and then it went smoothly
still a pain cause the brand new springs wouldn't stretch very well
reusing springs would have been easier, but ya know
tight cypress
pft who needs suspension
fathom socket
I like this game
tight cypress
#public-chat maybe
fathom socket
It's cars in it :p
flint sable
It is a good game
dense shard
riiiiight
flint sable
elfin cosmos
"only"
flint sable
I mean if you want one of the dopest wagons around, personally I’d probably get a used GT3 for that but it’s just me
split pine
918? looks more like a tundra with charger parts stuck to it. jk
stoic ledge
AMG E63 Wagon... only 127k
@dense shard
Not bad, here it starts at just €176.638 (198k USD)
indigo coral
automagic goat
dense shard
yeah, it's the only engine they have that's worth putting in right now.
Mazda's US lineup for sedans is 2.5, 2.5T
Diesel in the CX-5, and 2.0L in the Miata, and CX-3 I think...
stoic ledge
Curious to see how much that will cost in 🇳🇱
Can't even have the 2.5T in the Mazda 6 here
dense shard
I mean... the automatic AWD hatchback in the US starts at 25k... but that's the base model. Chances are the turbo will only come on the top nacho spec.
That starts at 29k USD... are you willing to pay 32k for a Mazda 3?
That's Golf GTI money.
stoic ledge
Probably, yes
dense shard
I wouldn't. It's a compact car. No way in hell is it worth more than 30k.
You can get the 2.0T Accord for that money.
civic spoke
Picked up the new truck last Friday.
dense shard
What did you get?
civic spoke
Put 1,000 miles on her in the last three days.
dense shard
And you got?
civic spoke
stoic ledge
I wouldn't. It's a compact car. No way in hell is it worth more than 30k.
I've checked: base Mazda 3 is €28k here (so +- 30k USD). So yeah, it's worth 30k to me
civic spoke
We don't have Genesis here in Swedenland. :c
indigo coral
bc i can't drive 
civic spoke
Just joink the wheel from her.
indigo coral
lol
civic spoke
"I'm the driver now"
indigo coral
I'm finally getting the (expensive) parts to fix my car
civic spoke
Unrelated to cars. But I got myself a decent watch earlier in the week.
indigo coral
Nice
civic spoke
Metal Casio G-Shock. Used, but barely worn.
stoic ledge
Casio 
indigo coral
fancy
indigo coral
well the "genesis" dealer only had 4 cars
lol
it was mostly a hyundai + VW dealer
and a few genesis
indigo coral
3 G70s, one G80
dense shard
Thing is MK... in the US the Corolla and Civic start at 20k.
They don't really go past 25k.
indigo coral
The Arteon looks good tho, they had a few of them
dense shard
You get into GTI and WRX territory at 30k.
indigo coral
it's an unreliable piece of shit but it looks nice at least
dense shard
VW build quality tends to be pretty great I understand.
civic spoke
I'd love a G70.
indigo coral
I want a G70 too 
civic spoke
But it's still a pretty big-ish car.
indigo coral
wat
stoic ledge
Corolla starts at €25k, as 1.2 Turbo with hub caps etc
indigo coral
its tiny
dense shard
Long term outlook is poor, but so is the WRX from what I've heard.
indigo coral
the G70 is small af, that's my biggest reservation about it
civic spoke
Isn't it a bit larger than the 3 series?
indigo coral
the small trunk and back seat
stoic ledge
It's comparable to a 3er iirc
dense shard
The G70 isn't a small car by any definition.
civic spoke
I guess.
dense shard
It's not a land yacht, but hardly small.
indigo coral
i mean you cna barely fit children in the back seat
its for all intents and purposes a 2 seater
dense shard
How bit are kids in the PNW?
stoic ledge
That's what the trunk is for, no?
dense shard
And if the G70 has smaller back seats than the Corolla HB... it's a pretty poorly packaged car.
civic spoke
I'm the elitist type who would go with the small engine.
dense shard
Manual?
civic spoke
Just so that I could get the manual option.
dense shard
lol, probably same
stoic ledge
Manual 
indigo coral
I'd get the 3.3T H-Trac Sport trim
civic spoke
270 is a bunch, tbh
dense shard
Whip it in a NA Miata. Wreck it, get another.
indigo coral
I'd get the V6 myself
Adriatic Blue, 3.3T, top tier interior with gray piping, all wheel drive
stoic ledge
Yeah
I like the 5er
4er not so m,uch
@indigo coral kinda looks like Merc from that angle lol
civic spoke
Doesn't look as bad as I thought it would.
dense shard
They can't even go for the floating plate aesthetic Toyota can. It's just a nose ring on a pig or cow.
civic spoke
Similar thoughts as Chris Harris for me.
indigo coral
i still think it looks nice @stoic ledge
dense shard
5 series facelift looks okay... it's still a BMW.
stoic ledge
The G70? yes it does
indigo coral
but im the only one that does,a ll the car reviewers talked about how ugly it was
and how boring it was
and how bad the interior was
civic spoke
indigo coral
doug demuro bitched about that car like crzy
dense shard
Interior looks nice imo.
indigo coral
blah blah blah slower than a ferrari blah blah blah looks like a hyundai
dense shard
More Toyota than Mercedes, but that's okay.
indigo coral
oh and he said it has a bad interior
indigo coral
he talked about how it's worse than the stinger
the material quality is actually quite good
dense shard
I'd have to sit in it to believe it.
indigo coral
i sat in one at an auto show here
civic spoke
Every brand has a car faster than a 40 year old Ferrari.
indigo coral
the interior is much nicer than a STinger
stoic ledge
My Corsa can beat that
civic spoke
Oh, reminds me of the BMW 8 series one take. I think it was.
indigo coral
but yeah car reviewers hated the G70
a few said it drove well
and idk what's not to like
solid interior, lots of power and decently dynamic
and should be quite reliable
tired flare
Own a 1972 Nova SS daily driver
vapid shadow
Those are cool
civic spoke
I would have to completely redo the brakes on a car like that.
If I ever wanted to daily it.
vapid shadow
Just use two feet
dense shard
I think Throttle House was pretty good on the G70.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5dgVx9F0WI Savage Geese is pretty kind to it.
civic girder
Still waiting for all the review channels to shit on the MX-30 and then still go buy one like the fan boy I am
dense shard
soon. I think production has started.
civic girder
I might have a new daily next fall/winter then
Assuming they can be optioned with rotaries
dense shard
Uknown... and doubtful they'll even sell it in the US.
stoic ledge
Just import one
serene scarab
Since my car's motif is black and grey anyway, I felt that this was a good decision
She's already been given an extra hundred hrsprs from an engine tune...
...and one of these per-side adds an additional 5
indigo coral
nice!
dense shard
Joking aside. It's amusing content.
civic girder
Uknown... and doubtful they'll even sell it in the US.
@dense shard 😠 I want my smol rotary
echo blade
split pine
pretty fuckin wild
dense shard
It's fun.
tight cypress
pretty ugly doe
dense shard
I don't think it's meant to be pretty.
flint sable
Me neither LOL
civic girder
Lego RX-7 when
dense shard
Probably when/if they release a new RX-7.
flint sable
civic girder
iTs A sPeCiAl CaR tHo
dense shard
So is my Corolla.
I am part of the 1%... the 1% that bought a new manual car in 2019.
I'll be amazed if 2020 is better for manuals.
civic girder
If Mazda makes another rotary sports car, it better come in manual or I'm unsubscribing from Mazda fan club
civic girder
I don't want a dsg or sequential either
dense shard
Mazda is Mazda. I imagine they will have a manual. I can't see it them not doing it.
dense shard
Then again... they discontinued the manual in the Mazda 6 and Mazda 3 sedan in the US.
And the manual only comes on the top trim.
civic girder
¯_(ツ)_/¯
vapid shadow
Best RCR Quote, Mitsubishi, The Chrysler of Japan
devout atlas
ugly
tight cypress
beetiful
fathom socket
vroom vroom
dense shard
A lot of early to mid 10s Nissans and Fords are things you want to avoid.
late 00s GM crossovers... avoid.
And early 00s Hondas, avoid.
dense shard
The smallest Chevys are miserable shit buckets.
Aveos tended to grenade their engines.
The Spark doesn't seem any better.
Not sure why it exists tbh.
Spark > Sonic > Cruze
fathom socket
Hello whats the best price for me to get a Hyundai Genesis 2011 transmission mount ?
Part doesn't bother me but the people that work on it yes lol
dense shard
I mean... I don't think there's much of a price difference. I imagine you can order one from advance auto... or from the dealer.
fathom socket
The dealer will charge you 320 for everything lol
Well the car drives fine then years later when I put into first gear I can feel the transmission vibrations alot then a few years back. I was like welp that ain't going to fix itself
stoic ledge
I see them online for ± 100 USD, idk how much it costs to install them
The Spark doesn't seem any better.
Not sure why it exists tbh.
Idk there was a quite high demand for small cars around 2010s
And "ours" was very reliable up untill this point
Aveos tended to grenade their engines.
What eniges are in the US Sonic (Aveo). Because the European versions used mostly Opel engines, which are fine
toxic copper
I don't have a actual picture of MY own navigator, but here it is, 2003 Lincoln Navigator, nicknamed "Luther"
indigo coral
Yay for -7 fuel economy!
stoic ledge
fathom socket
Thats flames tho
static canopy
uh oh
stoic ledge
@dense shard
https://drivetribe.com/p/the-268-hp-toyota-corolla-hot-hatch-ceJJvBRURZ-qHVUNBdeKcg
268hp manual Corolla confirmed to the US
(Idk if you've linked/seen it yet)
dense shard
I've seen other links, yes. And this is a good confirmation.
It would have been crazy to see anything else tbh. This is kind of a bootleg product imo. Yaris drive/powertrain in a Corolla. It's basically a straight up engine swap.
dense shard
Not a bad thing mind you. It's just showing that Toyota's GR Corolla project is hedging all bets.
They have a very small budget to make this happen.
stoic ledge
Yeah well they want to make the GR name big, that's one way of doing it
The previous Yaris GRMN was also bonkers apparently
dense shard
So I've heard.
I would have been okay with a 2.5L spicy Corolla tbh.
40 more horsepower, manual. Nice oomph on a budget. This is gonna go well into GTI territory.
Still... AWD actual hot hatch is great.
fathom socket
gotta love that 2003 mini cooper
window flexes when i go motorway speeds and makes a wonderful screeching sound
dense shard
oof
stoic ledge
🤔
fathom socket
nope a coupe if anything
stoic ledge
dense shard
I mean it's either a convertible or just the hatchback.
fathom socket
just the hatchback
dense shard
wow. That doesn't sound great tbh.
fathom socket
its not actually that bad it only really does it into the wind i think
because of lockdown i havent had too much of a chance to see when it happens
stoic ledge
Still not normal
fathom socket
its because the windows are frameless
dense shard
Could just be old Cooper charms and quirks.
stoic ledge
I've been in Mini's of that era.. they didn't do that
fathom socket
it might be a seal
dense shard
Could be wind noise.
fathom socket
true minis are known to be rather characterful
stoic ledge
BMW Mini's are known for being expensive, low quality, bad visibility and great handling
dense shard
I think I understand now. It's not that the car is flexing or anything. It's just old seals letting in more wind noise.
fathom socket
can confirm the visibility isnt amazing
fathom socket
well its quite low down and im kinda tall so i cant see much in the way of the sky
i dont mind it really
fathom socket
yeah ive noticed that
stoic ledge
It's like looking through a letterbox xD
fathom socket
i just gotta stay a bit further back or somethin
yeah preps me for a amg gts which has a similar problem
stoic ledge
fathom socket
its quite easy to work on though and parts themselves arent much
i think mechanics just make you pay extra dolla because its a bmw
dense shard
German car, English brand, Brazilian engine.
stoic ledge
With a Peugeot engine
fathom socket
because theyre quite old theres plenty of forum posts for all the problems in the world
stoic ledge
Brazilian?
fathom socket
the engine is kinda debatable
fathom socket
its used by chevorlet bmw and peugot
stoic ledge
Wait Chevrolet?
fathom socket
i heard that at least
dense shard
Apparently the diesel version was a Toyota engine. lol
fathom socket
better than a frenchie
stoic ledge
Ah the first gen was with Chrysler apparently
dense shard
The Mk I Mini One, Cooper and Cooper S used some version of the Brazilian-built Tritec engine, co-developed by the US-based Chrysler and BMW; the Mini One D used a Toyota 1ND-TV diesel engine.
fathom socket
ok so the engine was developed by chrysler and rover which is where bmw comes in
stoic ledge
2ns gen is the Peugeot Prince engine
fathom socket
ye im 1st gen so i aint no god damn frenchie
dense shard
hmmmm
stoic ledge
better than a frenchie
The French diesels are actually quite good
dense shard
Depends when the engine was designed.
Chrysler was owned, or owned Peugeot/Citroen at one point.
stoic ledge
Did they?
fathom socket
shiidd
dense shard
yeah
And I think at one point the company also owned Lamborghini around the same time.
stoic ledge
fathom socket
ill just say Lamborghini then
fathom socket
i mainly got it because its insurance was wayy less than it should be for performance
damn engine was developed in 1998 i think
only 4 years off id say that counts
flint sable
Mmmm
dense shard
It's not like Lamborghini developed anything new under Chrysler.
flint sable
There’s some confusing things about this car
Nobody is sure how many were made *the SMZ that is
The highest VIN is like 28
dense shard
I imagine it's whoever came in to get the mods.
And whatever that number is... it's far lower today. lol
stoic ledge
Chrysler Europe was bought by Peugeot apparently, which was basically Talbot lol
fathom socket
stillen?
fathom socket
only car i think chrysler sells in europe is a rebadged lancia which is itself a rebadged fiat 500
orite id just never heard of em
stoic ledge
Lancia Ypsilon is sold as Crysler outside Italie/Europe iirc
dense shard
dense shard
Chrysler also made a Town and Country.
It was rebadged as a VW van in the US.
The Routan.
stoic ledge
Yes
stoic ledge
Lancia only sells the Ypsilon now, everything else is discontinued
fathom socket
a real shame
stoic ledge
And as far as I know, only in Italy
dense shard
Lancia's existence is a shame right now.
stoic ledge
Yes
fathom socket
if anything they should have a lancia version of the 124
guess they already got abarth for that jeez fiat
stoic ledge
Why? Even the 124 itself doesn't sell
dense shard
Lancia isn't known for 2 door roadsters.
Fiat is.
Lancia doesn't even exist in the US.
fathom socket
all i know is that lancia has rally heritage and fiat only has a tiny bit from like the 50s
dense shard
And Fiat never followed up on that.
stoic ledge
Oh yes
fathom socket
apparently they sold 60k cars last year
stoic ledge
dense shard
man. That was so bad.
stoic ledge
Lancia? Not bad for only selling 1 ancient model in 1 country
fathom socket
my problem with them is they dont make any styling changes
stoic ledge
They don't do anything lol
dense shard
Sold in Italy only, built in Poland.
stoic ledge
Well yeah built besides the Fiat 500
fathom socket
i wonder if theyll ever do anything with it
stoic ledge
Same car underneath
dense shard
It looks like a tiny PT Cruiser.
stoic ledge
Maybe if Fiat brings out a new model, a new Lancia will come again
dense shard
I don't think Fiat will.
fathom socket
they are supposed to be updating the 500 at some point soon
maybe theyll update it
dense shard
Fiat survives by the graces of Jeep and RAM alone I think.
stoic ledge
Maybe later if there's demand
fathom socket
fiat does alright with their pandas and the 500 in europe
and alfa romeos sell quite well
and ferarris give the brand a bit of rep
stoic ledge
Panda is also ancient and barely sells, and even the 500 sales have dropped
fathom socket
god damn i had no idea
dense shard
Fiat was dragging them down.
stoic ledge
dense shard
https://cdn.carbuzz.com/gallery-images/840x560/706000/700/706710.jpg someone swapped on a Ferrari bumper.
The Toyota laToyota.
stoic ledge
The most stupid thing is... Fiat has no car at all in the most sold segment in Europe
stoic ledge
B segment (Fiesta, Yaris, Polo, Corsa...)
So small hatchback
They had a Punto which actually sold quite well... Until they still sold it nearly unchanged for 12 years. So they stopped building it, but didn't replace it
fathom socket
yeah theyre kinda dead there
stoic ledge
fathom socket
alfa romeo kinda got it covered i think
stoic ledge
Not... Really
They had the MiTo, which was just a shrinked Punto
Idk if it's even sold tbh
stoic ledge
fathom socket
yeah that segment remains untapped
guess if you like fiat 500 and u can afford a polo u get a nicer fiat 500
although noone in their right mind would do that
fathom socket
yeah
stoic ledge
Which is perfectly fine tbh
fathom socket
its like the mini in that sense apart from that mini has bigger mini looking models
stoic ledge
But many people look further than looks, and then there's no car which makes rational sense
fathom socket
they must know when theyre beaten
stoic ledge
I basically never see the larger Mini cars lol
fathom socket
no point trying to compete with a polo
stoic ledge
Idk the Punto was better than the Polo at it's time
It actually was
But not 12 years and 2 Polo generations later
dense shard
I think there's every point in trying to compete with a Polo.
Toyota did it.
Finally updated the Yaris.
fathom socket
yeah its a really competitive market that
fathom socket
i think they'd rather save money and just get that 500 profit
stoic ledge
Entire B-segment is basically new
Polo? 2017
Fiesta? 2017
208? 2020
Yaris? 2020
Corsa? 2020
Ibiza? 2017
I'll probably forget some
dense shard
The 500 hasn't been updated in like... 15 years.
stoic ledge
It's very competitive
fathom socket
apart from this year
when they are updating it
and it did get plenty of facelifts and such
dense shard
I'll believe it when I see it.
stoic ledge
First 500 was 2007 btw
dense shard
And the facelifts were kinda subtle.
fathom socket
so 13 years
stoic ledge
fathom socket
2020 version
stoic ledge
Mostly 2
stoic ledge
Entire car is new fyi
fathom socket
now u know that they cant change the overall style my man
dense shard
They have in years past.
fathom socket
jeez u expect them to move away from their iconic retro look
its the 500 thats the whole point of the 500
stoic ledge
^
fathom socket
yeah the whole car is different
stoic ledge
Mini is still doing it
dense shard
And only so far you can take the platform before it becomes untenable.
stoic ledge
Design hasn't really changed since 2001
dense shard
New Minis looks fat.
fathom socket
retro is pretty popular
dense shard
Like a fat kid.
fathom socket
minis still look like a mini and can be identified by that styling despite being the size of a ford focus
dense shard
The 2001 car was brilliant. The second generation kept the look.
The new one just looks kinda blobby.
fathom socket
new one does use that space though you get alot more space
stoic ledge
👀
dense shard
I think it looks awkward.
Question tho... why does the countryman exist.
or clubman, sorry.
Countryman is the crossover.
fathom socket
you forget that alot of people in the uk will buy anything that has mini look
its part of the national identity
dense shard
Time to move on?
stoic ledge
And where was a hype for such cars back when the 1st gen came out
fathom socket
hahaha no
stoic ledge
Don't think there'll be a 3rd gen tho
stoic ledge
I don't think I've actually ever seen a 2nd gen Clubman on the road
dense shard
I've seen a couple.
stoic ledge
BMW is going to build a new 2er Active Tourer btw
fathom socket
no british person that wants a mini is gonna not get a mini if they can afford it
theyll just get a bigger mini
hence why the styling is the same iconic style
dense shard
Sold their identity to the Germans, then drove Honda away.
Is Nissan staying in the UK?
dense shard
Whatever floats their boat I suppose.
stoic ledge
Mini. Built in 🇳🇱 .
fathom socket
if they dont like it theyll yeet out
fathom socket
nissan made alot on the qashqai in its day
basically made a whole segment out of nothing
dense shard
They're still a major player in the US market.
fathom socket
anyway car sales are down a bit in the uk overall
yeah i was tempted to say that haha
fathom socket
nice
stoic ledge
Ah no, 50% is still the Qashcow
fathom socket
i'd have loved to have been the guy that created the qashcow in nissan
think of how much praise that guy gets
stoic ledge
Nissan: good job, here's a big bonus
Guy: k, I'll retire cya
Nissan: chuckles I'm in danger
fathom socket
i wonder how much he got paid considering how much nissan made off of it
stoic ledge
A pat on his shoulder probably
fathom socket
haha yeah
fathom socket
jagged acorn
stoic ledge
👀
dense shard
Name longer than the Land Cruiser's, costs more than a Land Cruiser, gets worse fuel economy than anything that isn't a Land Cruiser, and can't tow shit.
civic spoke
Is this close enough?
stoic ledge
No, you can get closer
Name longer than the Land Cruiser's, costs more than a Land Cruiser, gets worse fuel economy than anything that isn't a Land Cruiser, and can't tow shit.
Way faster than a Land Cruiser, drives better than a Land Cruiser, more luxurious than a Land Cruiser
indigo coral
I'd take the range rover
stoic ledge
Same
median egret
Way faster than a Land Cruiser, drives better than a Land Cruiser, more luxurious than a Land Cruiser
@stoic ledge
I'm taking the land cruiser
I want to go to places other than the repair shop
devout atlas
ah yes
an arnage is better
as it's heavier than a land cruiser
longer, probably
and certainly much worse
in every reliability view-point
median egret
Except the Land Cruiser in 🇳🇱 is a 2.8 I4 diesel
@stoic ledge
this is a 2.8L diesel hilux
vapid shadow
Looks pretty nice
dense shard
Dunno if an occasionally working infotainment system is considered more luxurious.
dense shard
Yeah, can't use the radio when it's on the lift.
stoic ledge
Dunno if an occasionally working infotainment system is considered more luxurious.
It's not the same Infotainment system used in 2008 Range Rovers
Unlike Toyota, still using a 2008 headunit
dense shard
Difference is the Toyota system doesn't crash, lag, or stop working.
Also if y'all only get the diesel. Chances are the fuel economy is better than the Jaguar. US only gets the V8.
devout atlas
@dense shard it won't be on the lift if the most excellent Sir Richard SmillerButton OBE decides to repair the car by means of his personal mechanic at his most excellent yorkshire country manor
dense shard
I mean... it's being repaired regardless.
Also a modern man owning a 20 year old Bentley? Sounds like no money rather than old money.
All the cool rich people drive Continentals.
devout atlas
Sir Richard SmillerButton OBE has been the Earl of the most excellent hamlet of BAdTeethsVille Since the noughties
stoic ledge
Difference is the Toyota system doesn't crash, lag, or stop working.
Except it lags all the time, even a smart lightbulb has more processing power
Also if y'all only get the diesel. Chances are the fuel economy is better than the Jaguar. US only gets the V8.
I'd be bad if the 177hp I4 2.8 diesel uses more fuel than the supercharged 5.0 gas V8 with 550hp lol
Hmmm you can also get the Velar with a 2.0 4-cyl diesel, the D180 (180hp).
Starts from: €80.240
Land Cruiser 177hp: € 107.619
€27k difference, that can pay for a lot of repair bills
Velar D180 is also 4 seconds faster to 62mph
devout atlas
the land cruiser costs more? lma0
dense shard
In the US the prices are about the same.
Difference is the Toyota will retain far more value down the road.
And it will still run.
dense shard
Vs. 50 for a Bentley.
hardy osprey
full res by clicking "open original" 😄
devout atlas
-50 appeal?
I think that's the pre-buff bentley stat sheet
the post buff sheet clearly states +10 nobility
with +20 arsehole
indigo coral
Ye but the land cruiser is kinda ugly, not particularly fast, and not luxurious inside
median egret
Like a lot of people here, kinda ugly, not particularly fast
indigo coral
Lol
devout atlas
i take offense to the fast part
:/
due to the simple fact that I can fall from the top of a mountain at record speed
stoic ledge
That looka... Odd
civic spoke
And the Clown shoe didn't?
stoic ledge
I thought that one was quite cool xD
dense shard
I liked the shoe. It was funky.
automotive pet peeve
Big grills with tiny actual air intake bit.
Like I don't mind the bumper support bits, but this is basically a massive grill, and a tiny bit that actually swallows air.
And that is why the BMW 4 series isn't that bad in reality. It looks like functional air intake.
Thanks for coming to my TEDtalk.
fathom socket
i dont mind the closed up side parts on the st
its these things that really grind my gears
stoic ledge
Probably the closed vents besides the fog lights
dense shard
At least it isn't Honda.
dense shard
Tesla faces class action lawsuit over Model 3 paint issues in cold weather - Electrek
Fred Lambert stopped shilling. lol
Speaking of which. There may be a lawsuit against Toyota soon.
Apparently their white colors have issues.
fathom socket
at least they dont have a fake grill
dense shard
I'll take a grill over magically disappearing paint.
Rumors are cars that are only a few months old are losing paint.
fathom socket
how many tho
indigo coral
Tesla has f**king awful QC
A friend of mine recently went to pick theirs up and it was missing the god damned screen
How that can make it out of the factory I've got no idea
civic girder
2020: Fancy and expensive electric car has paint issues and missing parts from the factory
1980: Barebones and cheap rotary sports car was well built and made reliable
How do I have a 36 year old rotary that is more complete, functional, reliable, and in better condition than a brand new Tesla lmao
dense shard
Within 3 months.
I know cars rust up north.
But to lose paint inside of one winter is insane.
Kei cars in Japan looked better after 15 years.... and those are built to an absolute price point.
cobalt flint
2007 KIA Sorento
dense shard
A knock off Lexus RX
devout atlas
ah yes, dual tone color schemes
dense shard
It's the shape.
devout atlas
that'd be a premium feature in the phantom
dense shard
Especially of the C pillar.
devout atlas
I quite like these
dense shard
But the overall shape is very RX.
devout atlas
and the CRVs of this era
dense shard
CRV was a bit more upright.
dense shard
Sure, but the C pillar isn't obvious. The D pillar was something more.
The Lexus RX had a different aesthetic.
indigo coral
Yeah the Kia looks like an RX kinda lol.
flint sable
stoic ledge
oof
viral matrix
New ride
civic spoke
That radio sort of makes me want to get a more modern radio for my car.
But it would have to be something that fits well in the E46.
dense shard
Prelude?
stoic ledge
Looks like a 2000 Accord te me
viral matrix
@stoic ledge you'd be right
civic spoke
Looks like a manual. 👀
viral matrix
@civic spoke nope, automatic
civic spoke
ahh
stoic ledge
Nice
normal temple
urban loom
BMW lawnmower
fathom socket
spotted a somewhat neglected audi quattro yesterday
missing its rear bumper an all 😢
misty jungle
: (
carmine summit
stuck summit
@dense shard I just bought an focus ST
misty jungle
Focus ST's are soooo sick when done right
Not sure what wheels these are but i fkin love em
Hatchbacks are just so damn cool
civic spoke
That looks like it could be a race spec.
stoic ledge
That just looks ugly af
misty jungle
Can't please everyone
split pine
dont like hatchbacks? i dont either
misty jungle
I only started liking/appreciating hatchbacks because of top gear haha
Wish the show was still around today
Its sad tbf
Hasnt been a grand tour episode in months
crisp cedar
torn condor
Not sure what wheels these are but i fkin love em
@misty jungle they are Fifteen52 Wheels 👍
civic spoke
The Focus RS looks so much better when the rims are downsized -1 inch.
Also Fifteen52 rims.
stoic ledge
Is that... A mouth mask for a car?
civic girder
til you can build rotaries for torque
rotary truck intensifies
stoic ledge
dense shard
Love me some hatchbacks.
viral matrix
dense shard
EDM Accord, nice.
civic spoke
There have been diesel rotaries.
At least prototypes.
Here's one from Rolls Royce.
dense shard
I don't think they ever went anywhere.
civic spoke
dense shard
They could have just put a turbo or supercharger on it.
Oh wait... maybe I'm missing something with how compression works... still oof
fathom socket
penta rotor when
dense shard
Probably never.
stoic ledge
civic girder
The top mini rotary is a weird sort of supercharger
or it might be the other way around
idk
I'm not an engineer
fathom socket
350hp apparently damn
so the big one basically acts as an air compressor to increase compression for the small boi
so its more efficient
and then the exhaust gasses keep the big boi spinning
civic girder
well, it needed the big boi to add comp
diesels are compression ignited
rotaries naturally have shit compression
so you basically need a supercharger to give a shit load of air and artificially increase compression
like, take a Mazda rotary
Mazda claims they are 9.4:1
which is meh for an na engine
civic girder
but due to Mazda's design, the spark plug holes drop the realistic compression to like 6:1
dense shard
Also it seems the diesel design is direct injected.
civic girder
Yea, the Rolls Royce rotary is a 2 rotor twin supercharged diesel
dense shard
So I imagine the fuel injection bit has some compression loss.
civic girder
its not a 4 rotor by any stretch of the imagination
So I imagine the fuel injection bit has some compression loss.
@dense shard yep
civic girder
the only way to negate compression loss at spark plugs and/or fuel injectors is to have the gap be narrower than the width of the apex seal
so in a gas rotary, you'd need laser ignition
dense shard
or, put the plug on the rotor itself.
civic girder
and for fuel injection, don't go direct and use port instead
you couldn't put the plug on the rotor, realistically
dense shard
No practical way to do it.
civic girder
it would require complete engine disassembly to replace them
You'd need laser ignition to negate compression loss
it'd be the only thing that could work with a gap narrow enough to be thinner than an apex seal
but could also improve performance with stronger spark, in theory
dense shard
wait wait... bad idea.
civic girder
as well as potentially increase efficiency with tighter timing, in theory
dense shard
A movable sparkplug.
civic girder
what
dense shard
Imagine a little valve type affair that only opens after the seal passes over it.
It pops up, plug goes boom, and it goes back down.
Finally. You can put cams in a rotary.
civic girder
that sounds horrible
dense shard
lol
civic girder
by 50k miles it would fail and the motor would destroy itself
laser ignition or just run with current design is the best idea
dense shard
That's 20k more than a normal turbo RX-7! brilliant!
civic girder
these flaps would have to keep up with 8-10k rpm
dense shard
You could do it easily enough with the flaps tbh.
civic girder
and they'd be opening and closing 3 times per rotation
dense shard
It's just extra weight and complexity... at what cost.
civic girder
it would break quickly
dense shard
Timing could be done with a desmoderic system. Or however it's spelled.
Basically valve gearing instead of springs.
civic girder
Also, with my limited understanding of physics, it would probably do nothing to help the compression issue
all the flaps would do is solve compression leakage. Which would help emissions
but would not allow for more power
dense shard
Well considering that emissions are huge in this day and age. A start.
I'm being silly right now, but it's still fun to think about it.
civic girder
I still think laser ignition and port fuel injection is the best way
or just leave it as is and and optimize the design and implementation as much as physically possible
dense shard
I don't see laser ignition ever becoming a thing.
Sounds like any laser projector lens or whatever would immediately get fouled.
Or are you talking about something else
civic girder
even if you don't use laser, anything that could spark through a hole narrower than an apex seal would be adequate
this is what I'm talking about
holy shit
30% reduction in emissions using a lean mix
dense shard
Compression loss won't be an issue.
" For the laser energy to reach within the cylinder, each was fitted with a sapphire window attached with special epoxy adhesive."
civic girder
Even better
dense shard
Basically you could make the window thing sit flush with the rotor wall.
civic girder
Yea, the apex seal would just pass over it
dense shard
Issue here would be uneven wear on the metal vs. window.
And more to the point, the glue might not hold.
Rotaries tend to be quite toasty I understand.
civic girder
nah
that adhesive they used would hold
rotaries run at similar temperatures to piston engines
but block design means that the heat is focused in different areas
dense shard
I see.
civic girder
Uneven wear shouldn't be an issue, I would think
civic girder
flint sable
dense shard
Nice
bitter compass
amphibious vehicle > car that drowns
stark sparrow
brocks copming for my audi
torpid matrix
dense shard
That generation is a treat to drive. Probably the best generation of Si.
indigo coral
That generation of cjvic was exceptionally ugly
fathom socket
sapphire is also pretty fookin 'ard m8
the walls of the block would wear much faster
dense shard
That generation isn't great on styling or material quality, but the SI is exceptional.
to drive at any rate.
The generation after that tho... that might be an underrated gem.
That was still a real Si with a higher revving engine.
dense shard
To each their own.
Not a huge fan of the stance stuff. Stickers like that should be illegal tho. No way that doesn't block your view.
civic spoke
You know. I'm somewhat tempted to get a more modern car.
dense shard
Why is modernity considered such a bad thing?
civic spoke
Would honestly not mind something like the last generation 118i.
And then throw a light tune at it to have 170+ HP.
stoic ledge
Get a 114i and tune it to 200hp
civic spoke
Nah.