I decided buying a new car with a fully intact warranty was a safer bet.
#cars
dense shard
Used car market right now is brutal.
Honda Civic Sport didn't offer any features, the Si was feature weak, and not that great imo. The Mazda 3 was pretty fatally flawed.
stoic ledge
I know, for my brother we're buying a 5 year old 75k car for 17k 
agile iris
Yeah, probably a very different market over here
dense shard
Difference between buying new vs. used to minimal enough to get a good deal new.
Also I don't think stock used WRXs exist in the US... like I don't trust anyone selling a WRX in the US.
agile iris
Well yeah, if the difference is 3k then what's the point
dense shard
"oh yeah bro I didn't do any clutch drops... often."
lol
Manuals are great, but I don't quite trust manual drivers.
stoic ledge
Mine still seems fine (:
indigo coral
i dont even trust automatic drivers
dense shard
yeah
agile iris
I've seen ME do that
indigo coral
redline in neutral then push it into drive 
indigo coral
kablooey
dense shard
oof
agile iris
To be fair it was a $1500 car with an already destroyed transmission
dense shard
But yeah. Until a new Civic comes out. I'd say that testing out a Corolla with the new 2.0L engine is worth a try.
agile iris
4L60E with 300k on it
indigo coral
brake torquing isn't great for it but better than neutral dropping it
dense shard
YOu weren't trying to sell it to someone under the guise of it being babied.
indigo coral
^^
agile iris
Nah, I don't lie
indigo coral
my grandpa's RX never gets driven except when i drive it around
prevent flatspots, seals drying out, etc
I try not to beat on it too hard, just gas it here and there
agile iris
Yeah, best I can hope is in the 30k my car had driven before I bought it was gentle
Worst case I have a good dealer warranty
indigo coral
idk how many miles that RX had on it when they got iut but rn its at 56k
which isn't bad for a 2007
agile iris
Not bad at all
indigo coral
The RX 350 is surprisingly torquey
it hauls some ass
even though its only got 270hp
agile iris
Aaaaaanyway, I'm sure the corolla is lovely, but I was more in the market for sport + 5 seat, not 5 seat + not THAT slow
agile iris
Hahaha
dense shard
I'm down 30 horsepower, and up 300 pounds.
indigo coral
Pretty much every car on the market would drop my RX in a side by side race
dense shard
And keep in mind my car does remain a compact econobox.
indigo coral
Mine's properly slow, 220hp and a 4 speed and still 4 thousand pounds
dense shard
And unlike Mazda features independent suspension all around.
stoic ledge
Imagine having more than 83hp
indigo coral
plus I bet some horses have escaped in the past 22 yeras
agile iris
I was going from an LS1 ute to something more economical and practical, so I couldn't go to something slower
dense shard
Choices are kinda limited.
You can get a WRX...
An Si if you really want to?
Or a GTI if you want class... at the cost of potential issues down the road.
stoic ledge
VW
agile iris
The Golf is more expensive by a good chunk
indigo coral
if you want a sporty hatchback get an RS
dense shard
I could have gotten a WRX for the same price as a GTI.
indigo coral
Focus RS is a fun car from what I understand
dense shard
And if I was going to spend RS money... I'd get a Civic Type R.
indigo coral
I wouldn't know, I'll never be able to drive one 
stoic ledge
And a RS has a manual, so that's good
agile iris
If I was buying a golf it would be an R
dense shard
If I had to spend over 30k for a hatchback that starts at 25k.
I'd get a civic type r
Or just get a real sports car.
indigo coral
the type r is eccentric looking tbh
stoic ledge
If I was buying a Golf I wouldn't
indigo coral
agile iris
The Golf R, Civic Type R, and Focus RS are all more than I wanted to spend
stoic ledge
I can't afford to insure anything fast ๐
agile iris
Yep
stoic ledge
I'm planning to use the Corsa for at least 2 more years
dense shard
I'm keeping the 'rolla till I die.
stoic ledge
Maybe even longer
dense shard
Or 25 years... whichever comes first.
stoic ledge
Lol
agile iris
And I wasn't interested in less than top spec for any other than the Subaru, because it's got some head room for modification, I like how it looks more than the others, and it's better on fuel than the STI
analog blade
vroom vroom
stoic ledge
Since it was 100k
dense shard
A Toyota Land Cruiser is better on gas than an STi.
agile iris
That's amazing
dense shard
Honestly the STI is the best example of how far engine tech has actually come in the last 20 years.
agile iris
40k brand new, I got mine for 30k
dense shard
oof
dense shard
WRX starts at 27k in the US.
agile iris
That's USD
dense shard
yes
agile iris
So basically same
dense shard
AUD that weak?
vapid shadow
Is a base wrx auto or manual?
agile iris
At the moment yeah, equivelant of 19,600 USD
dense shard
The WRX is one of last cars left in which the automatic is slower and worse on gas.
agile iris
They're sticking with the CVT for some reason
dense shard
cheaper
agile iris
Yeah, it'll lose them customers
stoic ledge
Idk what โฌ100k EUR is in AUD, but it's 110k USD
vapid shadow
Are CVT autos as bad as people say?
dense shard
I mean the WRX is so niche, they're not losing any customers at this point.
dense shard
The WRX and STI make up like... 3% of total Impreza sales?
agile iris
They're everywhere here
civic girder
CVT is horrible on gas only cars
They are excellent on hybrids
dense shard
CVTs are aight
agile iris
Either way the Levorg would probably be more likely a candidate for a lot of people, including me, but it only comes with the CVT
dense shard
Not enough takers for the manual I imagine.
vapid shadow
I remember talking to a mechanic about cvts and he said cvts are about life 30% more likely to break. Wanted to know if he was just tired of fixing broken cvts and angry
agile iris
Same engine and trans
agile iris
Did previously anyway, 2.4 that came out later was different
dense shard
LeVorg only comes in 1.4 and 1.6 sizes.
stoic ledge
Europe only had the 1.6 IIRC
dense shard
oh wow... it did come with the 2.0... interesting.
Wasn't sold with the 2.0 in Japan.
agile iris
That's even more strange
civic girder
@vapid shadow on gas only, that sounds about right. I don't remember exactly why, but there's a difference in how a gas only car starts moving compared to a gas-electric hybrid that causes issues with the CVT and wears it out over time
stoic ledge
I've never seen a diesel CVT
vapid shadow
Never heard LeVorg before
dense shard
That being said... new LeVorg starting production this year.
So this could imply new WRX soon.
agile iris
If they change the transmission options I might trade up to one eventually
But I doubt they will
dense shard
don't count on it.
civic girder
Levorg is basically a WRX wagon?
agile iris
And to be fair I like my car
dense shard
sort of
agile iris
Basically yeah
stoic ledge
Impreza wagon yeah
dense shard
My plan is to pick up a project car in the future. Keep the Corolla mostly stock.
civic girder
Why not in US? ๐
dense shard
Because Americans don't buy wagons.
civic girder
F
vapid shadow
That is why I bought a venza. I want a project car in the future
dense shard
Car fans be all like, "bring us this car to the US, we want it"
Automaker does and car fans be all like, "ewwwww, I only buy used"
Car fans can be stupid.
civic girder
That's what I've done. I've got a Prius and an RX-7
agile iris
It do be like that
dense shard
"Why are there so few manual cars on the market"
because you idiots don't buy them new. Automakers don't cater to second hand markets. ffs
Last year. I was one of maybe 2% in the US who bought a manual.
More EVs were sold in the US.
civic girder
F
dense shard
And I'm the idiot for buying new. I just want to say. You're welcome. Cause in 20 years you'll have two choices to buy. Beat up WRX or fresh Corolla.
stoic ledge
8% of the sold cars in ๐ณ๐ฑ last year was a Model 3
agile iris
Why do you hate me and my WRX
dense shard
not you
agile iris
We just want to go fast
dense shard
WRX drivers in America WILL mod their cars.
agile iris
I'll mod mine
dense shard
All American WRX drivers mod their cars.
agile iris
Doesn't mean I won't treat it right
civic girder
I wouldn't say all
dense shard
And it usually boils down to low suspension and exhaust can bigger than my head.
civic girder
More like a majority
dense shard
You treat it right and you'll have a clean survivor WRX to sell.
agile iris
I will
dense shard
Apparently Corollas tend to die by T-bone.
So who knows. I might not have this car in 15 years.
civic girder
@dense shard that's cause people don't care and can't drive
stoic ledge
Most cars die when getting T-boned xD
vapid shadow
They're jealous of the reliability
civic girder
I would say internal forces were responsible
agile iris
Ride a motorbike, you can have a nice nap when you get T boned and forget all about your destroyed vehicle
civic girder
You can't get tboned if you're following traffic laws
agile iris
You definitely can
dense shard
But I've seen so many new Corolla sedans already beat up.
dense shard
Like... c'mon guys. You're making me look bad.
agile iris
I've seen cars get T boned while parked in their driveways
stoic ledge
I've seen exactly 1 new Corolla Sedan
dense shard
It's like they run into a tree leaving the dealer lot.
vapid shadow
I'll bet you now. in 10 years if you want a clean Corolla it will be easier to find a clean Corolla hatch
dense shard
Anyway. No hate on WRX or the drivers.
Hate on the STi for being old and obsolete tho.
It's a pure tuner car with no other real applications imo.
agile iris
Like the top gear Peugeot episode
civic girder
I dislike any idiot who does dumb mods and doesn't follow traffic laws. Aka, 85% of people in the US
agile iris
I still think they're cool, very obselete though
dense shard
uhhh, yeah. Cool but like... c'mon Subaru.
stoic ledge
We actually enjoyed our Peugeot 307 for 10 years 
dense shard
2.5L turbo AWD car... and it's slower than the Honda hatch.
stoic ledge
Great family car
agile iris
'Very considerate of James there, gave me a nice nudge as he went by just to let me know he was there'
dense shard
No more Forester manuals even.
stoic ledge
Maniac
vapid shadow
Yobbo
agile iris
We don't have double mini roundabouts so I was watching that like 'Well, guess I'm stupid now'
stoic ledge
Mini roundabouts are the most idiotic invention imho, nobody in the UK knows how to drive them
agile iris
And yeah, hot Foresters aren't going to be a thing anymore, another great loss, but as you said, people weren't buying them new
dense shard
I mean... give me a few million and I will. lol
I wanted to be able to afford a WRX or GTI... but I really really really really couldn't justify it.
(7 months later still no job)
stoic ledge
https://tweakers.net/fotoalbum/image/8sdD7DFDyXyc13qrTpoapYfW.jpg
Look at that beast
agile iris
It seems like basically a game of 'who has right of way' where no one is really sure
vapid shadow
Instead of making them a "hot" version they should take the forester xt approach
dense shard
Honestly. Here's the issue Subaru and Honda have/had.
agile iris
That's all I mean, just a turbo model
vapid shadow
I'd love a turbo Crosstrek
agile iris
Doesn't actually have to be fast, just needs some room to go up without rebuilding the whole engine
dense shard
When they offered a manual it was a "FINE FUCK YOU HERE HAVE YOUR MANAUL" It was a base trim with no features. It was a penalty box.
civic girder
My next daily is going to be either a Prius or a Mazda with a rotary. What will Mazda do? Only time will tell...
dense shard
Even the Accord Sport isn't exactly feature rich at that price.
agile iris
Just run it like a 2 stroke bike engine
dense shard
Or then you have the Mazda approach to manuals.
stoic ledge
Yeah I don't get why highers trims are immediately an automatic
dense shard
"Oh so fancy, well no one got the base mazda 3 with a manual, so we'll only offer it on the top top top trim..."
agile iris
I actually like the lack of driver aides, makes it feel more like a drivers car
dense shard
You can have a driver's car with features.
agile iris
But to be fair I've never had them so I can't miss them
dense shard
And blind spot monitoring has saved my bacon a few times now.
indigo coral
~~yeah, a drivers car like a lexus rx! ~~ 
civic girder
Imo, a driver's car packed full of useless features ain't a driver's car
stoic ledge
A dashcam is enough safety for me xD
vapid shadow
I feel like blind spot monitoring wouldn't be as necessary if those pillars weren't so big
indigo coral
thats bc you like old cars lol @civic girder
civic girder
Not necessarily
dense shard
I wouldn't call radar cruise or BSM "useless"
agile iris
I shoulder check hard
civic girder
There were useless features in older cars too
dense shard
I shoulder check, mirror check, and BSM check.
indigo coral
for all its faults, my RX has incredible visibility
agile iris
Nah adaptive cruise is a super good feature
dense shard
Honestly the safety features are just... a fall back of my turning my head.
vapid shadow
Same thing with my old Volvo the visibility was incredible compared to my venza
dense shard
I'm human. I WILL fuck it up one day. And it will save me.
civic girder
But will if though?
dense shard
yes
dense shard
That one time I derp. My car beeping at me will save me... as it already has once.
vapid shadow
SMH you're not perfect
dense shard
Also autonomous cruise control is just... comfy.
civic girder
I never focus more and never feel more awake or alert than when I'm driving
dense shard
I'm sure Australia would love it considering their roads and distances. lol
agile iris
Yeah, but I'd rather have a manual with none than a CVT with it
dense shard
And correct me if I'm wrong, but Australia is for the most part fairly flat?
dense shard
I'll take the snake over Karen.
agile iris
Depends how you catagorize flat
indigo coral
i'd take karen over the snake tbh
just stick my earbuds in and block karen out
can't block a snake out
dense shard
My house is on the side of a very steep hill.
agile iris
Not a massive amount of mountains, but roads aren't flat, they rise and fall and curve around with the land
dense shard
hmmm...
indigo coral
somewhere between mountains and the midwest US
dense shard
Also that's the thing. Why are we forced to choose between stripper manuals and loaded automatics?
That's dumb.
agile iris
It is
dense shard
... that being said I'm with you.
vapid shadow
I like the way Jeremy Clarkson characterize the Midwest he said it was like Holland but there are no flowers or marijuana
agile iris
Bad Holland
dense shard
Still... Toyota got it right at least.
Corolla XSE with everything but fancy stereo and headlights... with a manual.
dense shard
I didn't expect the car to be fun to drive...
Or be good quality on the inside.
Or even a good value.
dense shard
170 is more than enough to get me into trouble. I wouldn't mind a 100 more horses, but I'm happy with what I have.
agile iris
And I like being fast, but driving something fun can absolutely be cheap as chips
agile iris
At least it's good Holland
dense shard
I'd be more insulted to be compared to the midwest tbh.
vapid shadow
I was quoting Clarkson I usually call it the Netherlands
Yeah Midwest is bad we have Ranch though
dense shard
Imagine being compared to Ohio. This meme made by the Kentucky gang.
indigo coral
it's called mkland
dense shard
Never got why it was called Holland.
Get into 4th grade... "what is this Netherlands"
stoic ledge
2 provinces are Holland
But those people think they're the greatest, so they just call it Holland
dense shard
ah... I see.
stoic ledge
But the 10 other provinces are annoyed by it
dense shard
Okay next question... Cause I'm curious.
vapid shadow
It's like when Chicagoans refer to the whole midwest as Chicago
dense shard
Ethnically... y'all Dutch.
dense shard
Why Dutch to Netherlands to Holland?
Cause usually... Poles live in Poland and speak Polish.
stoic ledge
Idk why it's fucked up in English
dense shard
But the Dutch live in Netherlands/Holland, and speak Dutch.
stoic ledge
In Dutch it's perfectly normal
agile iris
Where does hollandaise come into all of this
stoic ledge
Country: Nederland
Language: Nederlands
People: Nederlanders
dense shard
... that makes sense.
stoic ledge
So idk where Dutch comes from
vapid shadow
The Amish
stoic ledge
Np
vapid shadow
They also are considered swamp Germans
agile iris
There are only two things I can't stand in this world, people who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch
stoic ledge
vapid shadow
The stig is allergic to them you know
median egret
Iedereen is van de wereld en de wereld is van Nederland.
agile iris
it's 4am here
median egret
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
agile iris
Kill me
median egret
ik handhaaf je zo in elkaar, makker
agile iris
I'm going to go sell my WRX for a corolla
agile iris
Trade in my heeler for a maltese
dense shard
Trade in your hamburger for a taco.
nah I kid. Keep your WRX.
If I had an extra 5k to spend I'd have ended up in one I feel.
agile iris
You'll be more comfortable, I'll be faster
stoic ledge
Yes kei car == sport car
dense shard
lol
agile iris
One day I'll give up on faster around corners and buy something heavy with a turbo 6 or a V8
To save my spine
stoic ledge
Actual I quite dig kei cars, I'd think they're quite cool
dense shard
They are.
median egret
W201 is almost a kei car
dense shard
I loved my Suzuki.
agile iris
Anyway catch peeps
median egret
jk but it does look small
vapid shadow
If I had the money I'd import a cappu
agile iris
Have a good whatever time it is
civic spoke
I'm still asking myself what might be wrong with my car. E46 320i. :c
median egret
Oh
stoic ledge
Gn 
median egret
Indicator broken?
civic spoke
Getting errors when revving to like 5,500 rpm, for those wondering.
dense shard
oohhhhh
civic spoke
Smh. I need to do my daily Italian tune-up.
median egret
320i is an I6 or
civic spoke
Unlikely. Considering that I go through 40 liters a week.
stoic ledge
E46 320i is I6 iirc yeah
civic spoke
And the 320i is the 6 cylinder, yeah
civic spoke
Battery light goes off, along with the brake error light.
Goes away again after I drop the revs.
It's not the voltage regulator. That was the first thing I replaced.
stoic ledge
Neighbours across the street traded their fully optioned Golf PHEV (204hp) for a base 0 options 218i coupe (1.5 3-cyl)
median egret
hhh
median egret
hahaha
civic spoke
I want that 218 couple.
median egret
GOOD CHOICE MATE
civic spoke
Coupe*
dense shard
They wanted a BMW.
stoic ledge
Even a 1er would be more practical
dense shard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOLtS4VUcvQ This is great.
vapid shadow
Later guys, I'm gonna throw plates at the Turkish
civic spoke
You can easily tune that 135 hp engine up to 200 hp.
stoic ledge
Since it has a proper back seat
dense shard
have fun Dusty.
stoic ledge
@vapid shadow 
You can easily tune that 135 hp engine up to 200 hp.
It sounds like an Aygo tho
civic spoke
Better sounding than the 4 cylinder.
stoic ledge
Well not really when running, but the start up is rough
Meh my brothers 318i sounded better tbh
median egret
@civic spoke turboed?
civic spoke
Mine isn't. N/A
civic spoke
Yeah, it is.
median egret
Or software turbo ๐
stoic ledge
@dense shard yeah that video is great, really clear
civic spoke
What car isn't these days?
stoic ledge
1.5 3cyl is turbo yes
stoic ledge
What car isn't these days?
Entry level A/B segment cars, Mazda
median egret
but I think the balance is actually really great in my car so idk more hp fun but less reliable
need project car
hh
stoic ledge
median egret
I'm 17
civic spoke
median egret
Im not even allowed to drive my "daily"
I could never manage a project car with that haha
meh
stoic ledge
I know your feel, bought mine 2 months before I was 18
@civic spoke lol open exhaust
median egret
Ah yes
7k rpm tractor noises
3cyls sound bad
it's a tractor at idle
and it happens to be able to rev 7k
7k? or less idk
this is how mine sounds
but it's the newer 2.3 engine
mine has 136hp not the old 132
sounds very much the same tho
That interior uwu
stoic ledge
OwO
median egret
When LTTCars NL
stoic ledge
median egret
Lelystad Airport is far away for me too
but it's a good location
I live in Zeeland
median egret
ooh yeah
but fast car go brrr
and you'll be in lelystad soon
also get fined like crazy
median egret
CC?
stoic ledge
Cruisecontrol
median egret
ooh i dont think i have that
stoic ledge
median egret
You don't need cruise control in an N/A or supercharged car
just a steady foot
problem starts when you have a turbo
you dont know anymore how much power you give
stoic ledge
Yeah but at 130/140 that's fine, at 100 it isn't
median egret
80 roads could just merge onto the highway nowadays
i wouldnt see the problem besides from the berm
xd
stoic ledge
median egret
the car i take driving lessons in is a turbo diesel 308
good car yes but
good: car
bad: turbo
~1k rpm minimum
unless 4th gear and up because then you have to wait 15 minutes for boost
median egret
yes
supercharge or else
I wont LS swap my car
and im not allowed to LS swap the drivers ed car
stoic ledge
For my driving lessons, I used a Clio IV 1.5 dCi
LS swap will be perfect for my GM car
civic spoke
There have been Busa swaps for Smart cars.
median egret
o no
stoic ledge
Oh yes
civic spoke
Who wouldn't want a 1,300 cc engine that revs to 10,000 in a tiny car?
civic spoke
170-190 hp, too. Just not a whole lot of torque.
stoic ledge
Most engines are all torque today
indigo coral
not that RX
median egret
ill rotary swap a 190e
indigo coral
Lexus RX.
indigo coral
lmao
median egret
nah lexus meh
indigo coral
lexus 
median egret
.
median egret
Take FWD Camry
Remove rear seats
LS in rear, RWD
Original engine for FWD
Sync them
2+2WD system!
stoic ledge
๐ค
dense shard
Someone did it with a Cadillac El Dorado
stoic ledge
๐
median egret
.
autumn talon
@median egret that is actually cursed
fathom socket
Does this count as a car on here lol
Just wanted to ask why the disk breaks are not the same
Wide and small
dense shard
you mean front vs. back?
Chances are the front brakes will take vastly more heat, so they double up, and are larger.
Rear brakes aren't the primary method of stopping since your bike's weight shifts forward when slowing down.
Same applies for cars more or less.
civic girder
front brakes are always beefier and stronger
the front brakes take the brunt of the load when you brake a vehicle
bikes need front brakes that can take more heat, just like cars, but they also need to not grab so hard you flip over the front wheel
like on both my cars, they are front disc and rear drum. They stop very well despite having drum brakes. Why? Because the front brakes do the most work
static canopy
wat
vast harness
Bad idea for a 16 year old or na itโs only a 250
dense shard
Yes, but no, but yes?
It is a 250, but it's a fairly new one... usual narrative goes that first time bike riders will drop their bike fairly often.
Are you willing to ding up a fairly new bike?
But it is a 250... so like... I hear those are pretty great as starters?
vast harness
I could get a grom but a cbr or gsxr is goals
dense shard
Advice I can give you based on what my friends did... Please buy all the safety gear.
vast harness
Yea Iโm gonna buy a good helmet
dense shard
and jacket, pants, and boots.
vast harness
And wear a hoodie or sum Iโm gonna ride it to hs in the warm season then drive a car in the winter
But depends on what my grandma says she rlly doesnโt like motor cycles lol
dense shard
Yeah, sure. That could work.
I mean... I'd just say get a nice car.
I'm with gran here. lol
Otherwise absolutely get all the protective gear. It'll save your bacon.
vast harness
Itโs like a 6 minute drive to school but Iโve always wanted a bike soo itโs kinda hard to choose I could get a pickup and a dirt bike and since I live in the country drive that off road and not have to worry about stupid high insurance and taking a test plus I could learn how do ride a bike
civic girder
I would go with dirt bike for sure. I don't trust other people to not be dumb when driving on the road
dense shard
Yeah, there's that.
vast harness
Because she has said hell no im not riding a bike on the road until Iโm 18 and not her problem but she doesnโt rlly care it sounds like about the dirt bike because thereโs a lot of places that are closed course riding spots in Michigan
civic girder
It's not that I am afraid of riding a bike, its that I'm afraid of other people if I were to be riding a bike
I've made mistakes, and I've seen many other people make mistakes
look at statistics, and imo bikes are not smart purely from a safety perspective
but in the end its up to you
vast harness
Yea around here a old lady broke out of a nursing home and stole a car and rear ended a guy and his wife at full speed killing the wife and almost killing him
dense shard
jfc
Okay that's a fairly edge case example. I was thinking other stupid 16 year old texting and running a stop.
vast harness
But if I got a dirt bike I donโt have to register it since Iโm not riding it in the street
dense shard
But you can't drive it on the street then.
vast harness
Yea thereโs been a lot of bike accidents
dense shard
Have you considered an adventure bike?
vast harness
Whatโs that?
dense shard
Bike that can do some off roading and on roading
vast harness
Is it one of those street dirt bike hybrids
dense shard
yeah
civic girder
I mean, you could have plenty of fun with just a dirt bike. Really up to you
vast harness
Yea I wanted to get a dirt bike and get a extra set of wheels and put street tires on for wheelies in parking lots
At that point I could just get a grom
dense shard
also true
civic girder
if I were you, I'd just get a Ranger and a dirt bike
dense shard
The truck and dirt bike are the safest option imo
vast harness
A old ranger those are pretty cool
civic girder
get a carb one
vast harness
What year are those
dense shard
pre 90s I imagine.
civic girder
they were only available with carb for like 2 or 3 years
I know the 83 base model was carb
dense shard
To be fair.
civic girder
otherwise just get a 90s one
dense shard
The fuel injected ones should be easy enough to maintain.
civic girder
the 80s EFI is shit
civic girder
yea, I'd just get a late 90s one with a duratec
dense shard
The 4 popper?
civic girder
the 4 banger would be good enough to haul a bike in the bed
vast harness
Yo those are cheap I could get my bike and the truck for like 4 grand I wanted a Jeep xj but I was gonna blow a lot on it
dense shard
Cheap, decent, and durable.
vast harness
I mean I have a trailer I could use but with a ranger I could just throw it in the bed and strap it down
civic girder
I'm def gonna be trying to get a Mazda B2600 sometime late next year
or a B2200/2000
whatever I can find low rust/rust free for a decent price
and in manual
That will be my next project since I suspect the RX-7 will basically be done, besides paint, by then
vast harness
Are those old rangers a good base for off-roading
vast harness
Ok
civic girder
the only big difference in offroad potential is that the ranger has a longer wheel base
civic girder
as long as you had a good frame and proper suspension, should be fine for jumps
civic girder
and I'd suggest you get a 4x4 one if that's what you want to do
civic girder
it would probably be really expensive and require lots of welding to get a proper "prerunner" like the one in that pic
uhhh, idk if LS actually fits or not
probably does, but I'm not really sure
vast harness
Turbo k series? Lol
civic girder
I would almost rather just turbo the 4 banger or if you get a V6 supercharge it
vast harness
I would do the suspension and wheels first then focus on the engine
civic girder
yea
vast harness
Also widening the body
civic girder
idk shit about off roading or setting up for jumps tho, its probably expensive
and might ruin its ability to function as a daily driver
vast harness
True
civic girder
but if you needed a new daily, I'm sure you could find a cheap Corolla
vast harness
I want to mod my car so then probably just a 2 inch lift and some wheels and tires
civic girder
up to you, really
vast harness
Still daily drivable
civic girder
yea, I'd settle for a lift and proper off road suspension
personally, I'd have two sets of tires
one for the street and one for the trails
vast harness
Yea off road tire handle like shit on the road
civic girder
off road tires make lots of noise and hurt fuel economy
yea, not mentioning the shit grip too
that would certainly be more feasible, especially short term
vast harness
But yea i want a 4wd car or truck because rwd or fwd sucks in the winter
vast harness
Yea
civic girder
RWD is pure ass in the winter
You always get told RWD is trash in the winter, but its a whole different story when you experience it yourself
vast harness
Me laughs in my old dreams of dailying a clapped out 240 year round in Michigan
civic girder
240s are true shit heaps lmao
finding a clean one is like finding a needle in a haystack ๐
vast harness
Gotta get a imported one
civic girder
pretty much, but then its practically a different car
vast harness
There all clean and come with a sr
There was a mint coupe at a importer in my town with wheels recaros and coilovers for like 13 grand
civic girder
Something I want to do after the truck project is L24 swap a Z31
vast harness
Jesus
civic girder
๐บ bad
๐
the Z31 is the only Z car I like the looks of, and the L24 is the only good Z engine imo
7k out of a carbed straight 6 from the 70s is insane
vast harness
The have a r33 gtst 25 for 17 grand
civic girder
I'd rather have an 80s shitbox lmao
the L24 swap and the car would probs be less than 17k
the truck project is also going to be pretty cheap
vast harness
I really want a r32 4 door after seeing Adam lzs
vast harness
civic girder
but they're expensive and I would rather have L24 swap Z31 than clean and stock Hakosuka
vast harness
I think the r31 is kinda ugly
civic girder
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
vast harness
Or are you talking the original gtr?
vast harness
Ohh yea those look good
civic girder
plus they have carbed motors
vast harness
Na rb30 swap
vast harness
There worth a fuckton of money but you would be the only one with a rb30
civic girder
but those already have side draft, so I doubt webers would really add that much power
vast harness
Take that back rb30 with a 6 speed sequential
civic girder
even more yikes
iirc, rb30 isn't even that great a motor
and sequential is hella boring
civic girder
you can do straight cut gears in a stick shift too
vast harness
Does it make the noise?
civic girder
yes
vast harness
Ahh thatโs better
civic girder
you just have to be really good at rev matching ๐
vast harness
Straight cut built cdo9 with no lift shift
civic girder
iirc, manuals that whine like that don't have synchros, so have fun
hmmm
After I get the truck project I'm probs gonna have to decide whether I want to get a new daily or get a van
but that's future me problems
vast harness
Why a van?
civic girder
I just want one
an AWD mid engined van would be sick
It would be an easy project. Just fix it up and make it nice, then slap a supercharger on it and call it a day
the truck will be a lot more involved, but would progress slowly enough I'd probably be able to fit a van in there. After the van would be new daily time
vast harness
Who makes mid engined vans
vast harness
What are they called?
civic girder
Previa
vast harness
Put a jz in it
vast harness
Damn that would be fun asf
vast harness
Rotary swap??????
civic girder
That's what the truck is for
vast harness
Your rotary swapping a truck
civic girder
yes
vast harness
Is it gonna be a stock rotary?
civic girder
yes
vast harness
Dang built Doritos are cool
vast harness
What type of truck is it
vast harness
If i had enough money since Doritos are expensive I would build one and throw it in the ranger with a external waistgate hood exit
civic girder
That'd be neat, but not the kind of truck I'd be looking for
I want it to be clean and usable as a truck
a mostly stock rotary will make similar numbers to a 4 banger Ranger
carb rotary on stock port, hella reliable too
vast harness
Ohh a sleeper but rotarys are obviously not stick
civic girder
what
vast harness
*stock
civic girder
I mean
I'm not going to be building it for speed
I'm going to be building it to do truck things, but make cool noises while doing it
vast harness
Tru straight pipe?
civic girder
I already have an RX-7 and kinda want another one to port and turbo
it'd be catless, but wouldn't be full straight pipe
vast harness
Is your rx7 stock?
civic girder
my current one is yes, and will likely be staying that way
only major plans I have for it is to maybe Miata diff swap
vast harness
I like the old fbs after seeing the Vargas broโs build a drag one for 10 thousand
civic girder
vast harness
Are you gonna do wheels or keep it completely stock?
civic girder
All I'm doing is emissions delete, and thinking about Miata diff so I can get an LSD
vast harness
Ok
civic girder
but since its really just a reliable cruiser/show car, LSD isn't even necessary
if I get another one, I definitely want to put Kia gears in it and bridge port it
vast harness
I would do something with a rotary but a rotary is a lot of money for a 16 year old
civic girder
yea, definitely true
You have to get lucky with a fairly good one or you'll be paying out the ass for the motor to get rebuilt
which can be fine, if you have money
vast harness
Yea if I get a Jeep I want to build the i6
I really want a turbo but a super charger would do the trick then suspension wheels and tires and finally a wide body pre runner kit and then I would daily it
civic girder
if you wanted to off road it, I would go with a supercharger
the linear boost makes more sense
vast harness
Yea instant power
I mean I would rlly only want a turbski because of the sound but a super charger would be better all around
civic girder
if you want turbo noises, you can always slap an ebay turbo on a Corolla
Toyota engines respond to boost very well, and they're reliable
Doesn't necessarily have to be a Corolla, but those are cheap so it'd be more financially viable
vast harness
Jzx90 but then there like 15 grand for a manual
civic girder
you dream quite big ๐
civic girder
Hilux?
vast harness
They build them in dubai to go up massive dunes
vast harness
Land cruisers
civic girder
we have those here in the states
vast harness
We do?
civic girder
Yep, we've had them for a looooong time
The J40 is a Jeep alternative that is quite popular
J100s and J200s are everywhere
vast harness
civic girder
the J100/200 you can even get with UZs
vast harness
Yea
civic girder
The J70 is still in production, holy shit
that's been in production since 84
updated and facelifted numerous times ofc
FJ45 pickup 
vapid shadow
There is one of those at my grandparents condo in Florida
vast harness
The new land cruiser look pretty cool
dense shard
Tesla Cybertruck: Elon Musk scraps plan to make electric pickup smaller - Electrek
indigo coral
what an effing idiot
dense shard
It's a bit of a "well whatever we'll make another truck anyway."
I love some of the comments tho
"This is a fairly trivial issue. Pretty sure this thing is immune to bird guano and hail."
Keeping stainless steel clean is a royal pain in the ass. There's a reason no one does it.
And bird shit will ruin the finish on literally any metallic surface... painted or not.
indigo coral
bird shit ruins painted cars in a matter of hours sometimes
its going to destroy the metal of the cybertruck
dense shard
Well maybe not destroy... but mar it?
100%
or wait... parking under trees that have berries.
Imagine your truck turning colors. lol
"Gee you really found some problems. Except that the truck is STAINLESS and completely unphased by weather, and Tesla's work great in the Arctic circle. Who cares what the air temp is?"
Teslas work great in the Arctic Circle
uhhhh... ignoring the massive range drop all BEVs experience?
And the Model X ice issues?
Also everyone be all like "it doesn't matter because the CT isn't that much longer than a "the biggest spec of the F-150 you can buy.""
Like... those fuckers are too big to begin with. lol (Everything is too big tbh)
stoic ledge
"Gee you really found some problems. Except that the truck is STAINLESS and completely unphased by weather, and Tesla's work great in the Arctic circle. Who cares what the air temp is?"
median egret
I work with stainless steel all days
it can dry in a bad way
then it Looks ugly
so any grease or dust could cause it to dry ugly
it's not truly stainless
that's what I wanted to say
leaden laurel
Any love for my Citroรซn BX Athena?
civic spoke
We used to have an XM Wagon.
leaden laurel
Nice!
leaden laurel
Yup
Great to drive too
Cos of the hydropneumatic suspension it's so smooth
coarse root
damn
stoic ledge
super 90s
80s
leaden laurel
80s design, yes
My car was built in 91
vapid shadow
Love those old Citroens
vapid shadow
True, it'll be hard to find an importer in who-the-hell-cares Illinois though
dense shard
I can't afford the SM... or have the patience to repair it.
Personally... I think the SM is one of the most beautiful cars ever made.
Also one of very few cars that are FWD, but still have the engine behind the front axle.
leaden laurel
I don't live in the US so don't need to import it :P
vapid shadow
Where ya from?
leaden laurel
UK
vapid shadow
ah, I can't call you a surrender monkey then
leaden laurel
Lol
vapid shadow
You are a lamb burning Wiltshire peasant though
leaden laurel
True, true
The BX only cost me ยฃ1600 and the Athena special edition is one of three RHD ones left on the road
vapid shadow
Jealous, $2000(roughly 1600 pounds) can get me a used chevy cobalt
or a saturn astra
two of the worst cars known to man
leaden laurel
Lol
I mean yeah.. not especially great cars..
I love old American cars. Just so huge and look incredible. Shame they're so rare over here and cost a fortune
Also our roads aren't exactly big enough for them
vapid shadow
Yeah, my grandpa has a 79 corvette and my great grandma drove a 1969 Camaro for 30 years
leaden laurel
Damn
Nice
vapid shadow
And the corvette stereotype of having about 15,000 coats of wax on the car is correct
leaden laurel
Don't have to worry about rust and paint flaking if your bodywork is 90% wax 
vapid shadow
True, funny thing is that car is probably slower than that Chevy Cobalt
leaden laurel
Yeah, but.. I certainly know what I'd rather have
vapid shadow
Absolutely it's such a fun car to drive and beautiful to look at
Even with a 150 horsepower and a 3-speed automatic
leaden laurel
Yeah
What is it with most cars in the US being auto, anyway?
vapid shadow
Two reasons really the United States is full of safe car fetishists that's the reason most new cars are automatic and they're just per population than just isn't too many car enthusiasts in the United States. and there's a certain prestige that comes with driving an automatic in the United States when you drive a manual and it states here either a car enthusiast or you're looked at funny for driving a base model Elantra
I don't know the reason people view automatic cars is safer but they do
leaden laurel
Huh, weird..
I just like driving a manual
It's sort of becoming more popular for people to buy automatics over here but there's still a lot of manuals
vapid shadow
People are viewing cars more and more as appliances so the easier they can work the happier people will be
leaden laurel
A lot of people literally just want a thing to get them from A to B and that's that
stoic ledge
or a saturn astra
two of the worst cars known to man
Angery
dense shard
Cars have always been appliances.
Just because they required more involvement to drive in years past didn't make people "car guys" back then.
And I don't know about prestige when it comes to driving automatic. Most people just drive automatic because that's what they know, and that's what's on offer.
Automatics are more convenient. It's why most cars in the US are now automatic. Same goes for Japan. Kei trucks are a sole exception where price reigns supreme, but my understanding is automatics even in that field are beginning to take over.
Manuals at this point are sold to people who want them. Mazda can't explain why people should buy their manuals. I imagine Toyota is doing it for that slice of niche market share at this point.
(and at this point automatics jive with various autonomous features more than manuals, meaning we'll see manuals go away complete soon enough when various features become mandatory and/or expected)
indigo coral
naturally aspirated 5 liter V8
dense shard
Toyota doesn't really have anything else at this point.
indigo coral
most smol cars like that are 4bangers now
dense shard
or V6 at most.
dense shard
I imagine Germany gets the V6 to remain competitive.
dense shard
Some markets expect a car to come with certain features.
or be a certain size.
That's something Infiniti lacks it seems.
They're a step out of phase with the rest of the competition.
civic spoke
You can barely get Lexus with non-hybrid these days.
stoic ledge
Zhe German konfigurator only shows the IS 300h as well
Germany does have the regular gas versions of the UX, NX and RX
LS and LC as well
๐ณ๐ฑ Only had the RC F, LC and LS with a regular gas engine
dense shard
Aren't there rumors that the LS is getting a V8 again?
stoic ledge
3.5 TT V6 is already 25k more than the AWD hyrbid, won't matter for us anyways xD
But could be, idk, haven't heard of it yet
indigo coral
Hopefully the IS gets a major refresh
dense shard
It's due for a new platform.
fair bronze
The first gen is still the coolest Lexus IS imo
dense shard
The legendary Altezza.
The car that started an entire industry and styling movement based around clear taillights.
fair bronze
It looked great on the IS but not on a Corsa
dense shard
They look fine in pretty much all factory/OEM applications.
fair bronze
Pretty much yeah
dense shard
But it's finally dying out as automakers move to LEDs.
fair bronze
Which is perfectly fine
dense shard
yeah. Styling flairs come and go. It's time we move on.
indigo coral
my RX had red tail lights but later ones had clear iirc
dense shard
interesting.
fair bronze
Even my granny has them
dense shard
Or rather 'tezzas are getting interesting as automakers move to LEDs.
median egret
I'm glad W201 taillights aren't clear
indigo coral
they messed with stuff after '99
the later ones had a lower redline and less power too
delicate sinew
@ripe spire this was the first "van" my dad ever bought
ripe spire
y e s
delicate sinew
He bought it in 2000 with 12,800 km's on it
Drove it to about 335,000 KM's
no oil changes at all
ripe spire
lol
delicate sinew
the entire engine was sludge ridden but still operating
delicate sinew
at 335k KM, I'll tell you the problems we had
ripe spire
one stupid thing with the toyota v8's is that the starter is hidden inside the engine
not inside inside its under the intake
which is uhh
delicate sinew
- ABS Failure on all 4 wheels
- Airbag light for all airbag modules
- ECM Failure
- BCM Failure
- Incorrect speedometer / odometer / tachometer readings
- Horn failure
- AC/Heat failure
- Engine near seized
- Transmission near seized
- ....Should I continue
delicate sinew
Half the fuses that were in the fuse / relay box were blown
so certain things were not working
ripe spire
ripe spire
rip
delicate sinew
headlights would flash on and off at random times
ripe spire
lol
ripe spire
lol
delicate sinew
At one point, we gave the van to my uncle because he has a shop right
ripe spire
aight
delicate sinew
He said it cost him about $2,500 to bring it back to "brand new" lmao
ripe spire
LOL
delicate sinew
He just went to the scrap yard, found several of these vans, like the Dodge Grand caravan / Chrysler Town & Country
Ripped out the engine, transmission, ECM/BCM, airbags, etc etc
ripe spire
meanwhile my moms forester at 108k miles is uhh starting to die
delicate sinew
bruh
ripe spire
the starter is being idiotic
and we've gone through 2 knock sensors
so our check engine light just stays on
we have an exhaust leak
delicate sinew
what does it say the issue is?
ripe spire
its our knock sensor
delicate sinew
bruh
delicate sinew
Yeah that sounds like something other than the knock sensor, you'd have to investigate further
I have a 2015 Chevrolet Cruze and I'm kinda upset because the people who owned it before me ruined the turbo on it
ripe spire
odd when we replaced it it was fine for a while
delicate sinew
Spent about $2,000 to replace it
If the issue with the knock sensor comes back, you might want to check your engine timings, because the knock sensor could be seeing something you might not
ripe spire
anyways our headlight on the drivers side only wants to turn on on high beam
so yeah we have electrical problems
delicate sinew
oof.
ripe spire
and rust
ripe spire
nice
delicate sinew
This was a really nice car. It feels nostalgic if I ever see one on the road