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#cars
indigo coral
viral matrix
@civic spoke I hope your have highs and mids to balance it out 
civic spoke
@viral matrix It belongs to someone I work with.
stoic ledge
:ohno:
civic spoke
Why aren't they given ear protection?
normal temple
indigo coral
lol
fathom socket
Oh nice a skyline
dense shard
SHO, the poor man's M5.
dense shard
I'm just sad Ford never followed up on it
indigo coral
I'm glad they didnt f**k it up with an Ecosport SHO or some stupid shit like that
it never became a trim level for anything besides the Taurus
which I'm glad about
dense shard
Purist would argue they did fuck it up by not going with a Yamaha engine again.
dense shard
No arguing there, but it isn't a "true SHO"
It lacks that sweet sweet Yamaha engine.
indigo coral
ok fine, but at the very least there's not an edge sho, ecosport sho, escape sho, etc etc etc
it stayed the "fast taurus"
indigo coral
yeah
dense shard
ST doesn't sound as cool
normal temple
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/368807557919145985/706980867104571472/IMG_20200504_162139.jpg
flint sable
@dense shard used M5s are getting down there in price, like 22k and below
But relatively
Still a good amount
Of money
dense shard
The last generation I'd consider would be the E60 M5.
The newer ones have some serious reliability issues.
dense shard
It beats the turbo issues the F20 brought along.
And at least the V10 was interesting.
indigo coral
what, electrical gremlins, rod bearings, smg pump issues, vanos sensors, throttle bodies, valve seals
what else?
dont get me wrong I love the E60 M5, but damn is it expensive to maintain
dense shard
Electrical gremlins are universal as are the various sensors.
Now add massive heat, turbo coking issues, and apparently valve guide seals with the turbo V8s.
indigo coral
thats an oof
dense shard
That issue isn't exclusive to BMW. All modern turbos often have issues dealing with the heat output.
silk finch
https://www.reddit.com/r/fordfusion/comments/gdduj4/change_your_nuts_lugnuts_that_is_or_you_can_be_in/ Looks like I know what i'm changing out
Why the actual fuck was this even an idea
indigo coral
tf
flint sable
We got an F20 M5 for 22k
indigo coral
my lug nuts suck but they're not that bad
mine you just have to get them on right or they're really really really easy to crossthread or not hook up properlty
silk finch
I'm getting some 696's soon anyways
dense shard
ha, Elon Musk is actually selling his house.
He's not okay.
If he shaves his head and starts wearing snazzy jumpsuits, I'm calling a shrink on him.
indigo coral
hes lost his mind
dense shard
As long as he doesn't go all Heaven's Gate... he'll be fine.
civic girder
@normal temple wtf is that? Is that a spark plug as an oil drain bolt?
normal temple
fuck yeah
civic girder
smh
civic girder
oh god
normal temple
indigo coral
Nice
tight cypress
@stoic ledge come buy one of my kaas's
tight cypress
yes u need
stoic ledge
👀
hexed arrow
This will go one of two ways 
I'm going to plasti dip the alloys as the previous owner loved rubbing curbes for some reason
silk finch
silk finch
stoic ledge
A Fusion between Ford and Lincoln ( 😉 )
carmine summit
@hexed arrow plasti dip sucks, do yourself a favour and use paint
more work but it's definitely worth it
plasti dip fades and looks like garbage pretty quickly
get some sandpaper, cheap self-etching primer, and decent paint
you can use single stage paint but I prefer using a base and then a clear
patent cosmos
dense shard
oh no
viral matrix
My bluetooth speaker
stoic ledge
:ohno:
viral matrix
Ohyes
spice compass
Miata looks so damn small next to that crown vic.
carmine summit
That's because it is
Someone should Photoshop a BMW M8 racecar in there lmao
It'd be half again the size of Neighbor
indigo coral
i like it
dense shard
I like modern Lexus
indigo coral
i like all lexus 😛
stoic ledge
Lexus LM, best Lexus 
tame mesa
Fresh paint after having been fucking vandalized
stoic ledge
I know that feel...
tame mesa
It was raining and in the middle of the night some crackheads poured comet all over my front end. Clear coat was gone and the paint oxidized
It's fresh now though.
I need new headlight assemblies, too. These are a little crusty.
dense shard
nice
dense shard
That's an Impala?
shrewd shell
I got myself a pressure washer and foamer, works great 😃
shrewd shell
This is what I got, cheap and works well
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HC898GM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
tame mesa
I'll check it out, thanks.
I don't think I have access to a spigot where I'm at, though, which sucks.
I might have to jury rig some pump setup lmao
I don't like taking my car to automatic car washes
shrewd shell
Yeah, I took mine to a handwashed placed, sometimes they would do a really good job, sometimes they wouldn't 🤷♂️
tame mesa
Thing has a lot of balls for what is literally just a full size family sedan. Although the nameplate does seem to have a sleeper reputation.
The 96 SS 😩
tame mesa
Pretty sure.
I saw one a block up from my place being worked on at a local shop. Was nearly drooling. Absolute beast.
silk finch
2017 Fusion
2017 MKZ
Why is Ford like this lol
I would argue the Fusion is cleaner lines
Not as busy
shrewd shell
Man... Most american cars still got crappy infotainment systems... Ford Fusion looks more clean though
tame mesa
Nice headlights on the MKZ but the Fusion has a more defined shape.
tame mesa
Those would probably look class
silk finch
I'm also almost done deleting chrome
I'm holding off on buying new wheels until my tires are near needing to be replaced, so i'm buying the black inserts for me wheels
tryna find a photo lol
dense shard
That'll look nice
tame mesa
I really want new wheels to get rid of the steelies and caps.
The double spoke alloys for this would look famtastic. Get the gapping JUST right.
dense shard
Are those the stock wheels?
silk finch
Yeah
tame mesa
Yeah those are solid, actually.
silk finch
This is the insert
I know one guy with them but on a different style
Put around 10k miles and they still are held on fine for plastic retension
dense shard
That's good.
dense shard
Have you considered painting or plastidipping?
silk finch
I have, but I can easily remove these if I sell the wheels
and only costs like $20 more
dense shard
https://i.redd.it/hoxy2znjwyw41.jpg This is some dedication. Guy wrapped his roof box.
silk finch
its just finding where the fuck the harness is lol
I'm actually probably going to get an old XJ that's been beat to shit for hauling and shit
swap it to JK axles
hauling basic shit, not real towing
dense shard
Should be more than good enough I understand.
silk finch
do some crawling and mudding
dense shard
I just want to get a roof rack for my car.
silk finch
I'd probably end up driving the Jeep more than my Fusion 
dense shard
Maybe buy dat sweet TRD airbox
silk finch
I considered getting one, but with what i'd put on it, I would need 4wd
Though I have driven my car through a field 
silk finch
The fusion's trunk is fucking massive
It's like 5ft deep
I have plastidipped my grille though
Horrors from Baltimore driving
Not long before i'll need new rotors and pads
Also, never buy energi's
Garbage
dense shard
oh tires are not going to be OEM.
silk finch
Meanwhile the proxes 4 plus can take an awd launch from the 2.7tt without warming them up
dense shard
I'm not paying that much for those.
silk finch
I wish I would have gotten a sport
dense shard
I'm gonna want either something quieter or stickier.
silk finch
AWD and ~350hp
It can literally run against 5.0's
and beat them
as a fucking family car
my bad, 320. From Livernois
dense shard
As it should.
silk finch
almost 400ft lbs of torque
Fuck that makes me so mad I bought this damn thing. I never bought for speed though
dense shard
Apparently the Fusion Sport wasn't much in the corners from what I've heard.
silk finch
horrendous in corners
dense shard
that bad?
silk finch
I test drove one bc why not and took a cloverleaf at 50
dense shard
oh no
silk finch
I was terrified at its lack of control
the back end wanted to come out so bad, but didnt
dense shard
that sounds a bit scary
silk finch
Same
dense shard
Got a wheel brush specifically to get at the inside of my wheels.
best investment I made in a while.
shrewd shell
A cloverleaf at 50Mph or KMh? 50Mph would be... Pretty high... lmao
indigo coral
What's wrong with the Energi? @silk finch
silk finch
just bad tires
indigo coral
Ah
Ok fair
My grandpa's RX had some garbo eco tires on it
You could chirp them in an AWD car w/o even a hard launch
He has better tires now. Lol .
civic girder
I'm not great about remembering to do that
more specifically, when I get in the car to start it
so, in my car that existed before cars made you press the clutch to start, I lurch forward or backwards as I crank because my dumbass forgot to put in neutral
stoic ledge
@unique cliff every time 😂
@civic girder why not always use the clutch when starting?
tight cypress
@stoic ledge new car maybe soon yes
stoic ledge
which one
tight cypress
nussan primera
stoic ledge
Nice
stoic ledge
How is that car related 🤔
fair bronze
Do bees actually like the Honda Jazz?
dense shard
only the yellow ones
stoic ledge
Cool
tight cypress
@fair bronze börbörbör butbutbut
fair bronze
Loud kääs
dense shard
Loud exhausts always annoyed me.
fair bronze
Loud exhausts that are just made to be as loud as possible are annoying imo
fair bronze
Power is the only thing that makes it worthwile
carmine summit
loudpipessavelives
if you can't see it, you'll hear it and know something is coming
dense shard
Problem is your stuff so loud you can't hear the ambulance coming up behind you.
Also if someone is so distracted they don't care to see you, they won't care to hear you.
Nah. I can get that idea, but I find modern bikes to be loud enough to be heard. Open exhaust is mostly a nuisance imo.
carmine summit
I'm talking about cars, yeah most bikes are loud enough
If there's blind corners or hills or something though where people can't see you having a loud exhaust can be a safety feature
indigo coral
Lol
dense shard
accurate
civic girder
@stoic ledge why press the clutch if I don't have to?
stoic ledge
@civic girder to prevent it from jumping forwards when it's in gear xD
civic girder
or just not put it in gear when parked
problem solved
if I pressed clutch to start, then I'd still forget its in gear and let off clutch after starting
stoic ledge
But not parking in gear means using the hand brake/parking brake/e-brake... Which is bad in the winter or when standing still for a longer period of time 👀
hexed arrow
Frozen handbrakes are fun
I'll just sit here and idle till it decides to let go or yank and risk breaking the cable/something else
hexed arrow
stoic ledge
bitter compass
stoic ledge
Electronic brakes use the same system as a manual one... Just a servo pulling a cable instead of you 😛
Also, servo can get stuck after sitting for a while
warm sparrow
Civic ❤️
hexed arrow
Honda CRV with gtr parts on it 
It actually looks pretty cool apart from the wang on the back
civic spoke
@unique cliff Is that Matt Farah's million mile Lexus? /s
stoic ledge
Flames are good 🔥
silk gate
Big shine
edgy geode
So im thinking of trying to find an old bently or rolls-royce to restore. can someone give me an estimated price range?
silk gate
The cars themselves arent so pricy, but the parts, oh ma god
edgy geode
oh. just looking for a restoration project. i found one on a site thats made for buying and selling classic cars, and its 3500, and needs a new paint joband tires. not sure about the engine, yet.
silk gate
better hope the suspension is also good
edgy geode
not the one i was talking about, but its the same kind
i wonder how big the engine is
silk gate
6,2 liter v8
edgy geode
thats pretty big. wow
https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1344718/1969-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-for-sale-in-miami-florida-33150 This is the car im thinking of restoring
its cheap and looks like it just needs tires and a paint job
maybe an interior restore
dense shard
Oh and seals, bearings, and bushings.
stoic ledge
It's always good when an ad has 1 picture, no description etc
tight cypress
@stoic ledge
stoic ledge
🧀
edgy geode
https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1344379/1977-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-ii-for-sale-in-miami-florida-33150 found another. Better condition, and 12000 usd
what are thoughts?
tight cypress
why do u want an rolls royce
edgy geode
I think it would be nice. Also they look nice, especially the older ones. and i also want to start restoring old cars.
stoic ledge
That looks like it's actually in running/driving/acceptable condition
dense shard
Might be rough to own...
But hell... if you are handy with a wrench and good with electrical, could be fun to own as well.
Modern times means you could theoretically cast/3d print any missing bushings, seals, or buy new bearings.
If there ever was a time to own an old finnicky exotic/luxo barge... now is the time. lol
stoic ledge
@dense shard Toyota
indigo coral
Eastman is gonna have a conniption lol
stoic ledge
@civic girder are you? 😛
dense shard
Only issue that thing has is it lacks the new Corolla 2.0 engine
dense shard
Actually yes. I agree.
I do like that color tho.
Toyota's been knocking it out of the park color wise.
indigo coral
always has - looks at my RX and its ...unique... colour
dense shard
It's a very 90s color.
dense shard
I mean we could laugh at all the brown cars of the 70s.
... okay I won't go on from laughing there. But the weird plum/bronze of the 90s?
That's aesthetic.
I value that most highly.
I feel we lost some of that with modern automotive choices. Everyone is going for crossovers designed to be appealing to everyone and no one.
Still. Move to LEDs for lighting seems to be opening up possibilities again for actual style. Nissan, Honda, and Toyota are getting nifty on style again. Germans apart from Audi seem trapped by corporate styling language. Korea is pushing the styling as well. New Sonata looks like it is straight out of a car show concept from a decade ago. I can appreciate that.
indigo coral
the sonata is cool
it's not strictly nice looking but its striking. it's a car that's not going to be remembered in the future, so they don't really need to make it classically beautiful or whatever
dense shard
I reserve "nice" for crossovers. They're nice. But they're not seizing my heart.
stoic ledge
Germans apart from Audi seem trapped by corporate styling language.
Wait what? It's Audi who all look exactly the same
dense shard
Yes, but to me, Audi has entered the 2020s.
indigo coral
audi has a design language, but it's interesting
dense shard
BMW is stuck with their kidney grills, and Mercedes... blah
dense shard
Actually I'd argue Mercedes looks more alike than even Audi products.
stoic ledge
3er and 5er are nice looking cars
stoic ledge
Yeah MB C/E/S all look the same
indigo coral
the 7er grilles are just ridiculously large
dense shard
But they aren't exactly making me do double takes.
indigo coral
i don't mind the X7 grille
stoic ledge
7er is not bad irl
dense shard
Sonata gets a second look from me.
indigo coral
I've seen them irl here, maybe it was just cause black grille on white car, but it looked massive
the sonata is interesting
dense shard
I think it looks fantastic.
stoic ledge
Big white sedans look odd in general
indigo coral
the new 4er grille is crazy
dense shard
It's the only cohesive modern sedan that actually looks like 2020.
stoic ledge
i4 is still no production version
dense shard
Honda is extremely disjointed on styling. Toyota's Camry is actually generic once you take away the few swoops... but new Camry soon.
I'll hold off on judging Honda and Toyota too harshly.
They're due for new midsize models soon.
stoic ledge
Camry isn't that old yet is it?
dense shard
It's up there in age.
stoic ledge
2017?
stoic ledge
Maybe a refresh seen
dense shard
It's certainly due for a refshreh at the very least.
indigo coral
afaik they said that grille is coming to the 4er
dense shard
Make the vents real, and I'm down with that design tbh.
dense shard
Remove all hints of kidney to make it look less buck toothed.
dense shard
hmmmmm... so refresh of the camry.
eh, either way I'm not massively impressed with Toyota, but their efforts beat Honda's.
stoic ledge
They should make a Camry wagon like in the 90s
dense shard
hell yeah
indigo coral
Looks pretty good
dense shard
Thought it looks familiar.
stoic ledge
Still, would buy
vestal sentinel
holy!
lethal garnet
i like the new 4 series
indigo coral
It's a bit much imo
dense shard
indigo coral
of course it is
civic girder
Why does this not surprise me whatsoever
next forge
thank god my jap shit box doesnt have a damn ipad
silk gate
Thank god my car doesnt even have an ecu
Tbh it has nothing thats digital. Not a single microchip.
warm sparrow
so badly photoshoped xD
you can still see the real exhaust lol
and the spoiler...
jagged coyote
the honda logo isn't shaded too 
simple quarry
@patent cosmos Do you know where that vid originates?
civic spoke
Electrical engineering.
stoic ledge
Nice
civic spoke
If anyone is wondering. I "improved" the grounding.
dense shard
civic girder
Both of my cars have computers. Only difference is that one car has EFI and touch screen audio/climate and the other only needs the computer for interpreting button inputs and input from like 2 sensors
civic spoke
Question - What could make the battery light go off. But only when you rev it to beyond 5,500 rpm?
Serpentine belt/Tensioner?
stoic ledge
Alternator? Too high of a voltage at high rpm?
civic spoke
I have replaced the voltage regulator in the alternator.
I'll probably just replace the belt, pulleys, and tensioner either way.
Good thing to replace on an almost 20-year old car.
thin olive
stoic ledge
🤔
civic spoke
civic girder
I have no idea what that means
stoic ledge
(Broodje) Bapao = meat bun ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakpau )
Broodje warm vlees = hot meat bun
It has literally nothing to do with this channel... But ok xD
civic girder
but why was I @
civic spoke
I got to see and hear the bike my boss rides.
Boy was the whole thing shaking at idle, and thottle.
And it was loud
carmine summit
sounds like a Harley
dense shard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmI2K6gR1cU Well... this is interesting.
I'm not minding the styling.
carmine summit
Reminds me of the new Ford Escapes
silk finch
Anybody saw the latest knuckle busters?
civic spoke
@stoic ledge It was a big Touring Harley. Imagine something Hells Angel's might ride. ||(because he's apart of it).||
civic spoke
Have heard numbers that $100,000 has been spent on it.
stoic ledge
Damn
stoic ledge
@dense shard that looks very interesting 👀
And 32-36k USD is an appealing price tbh 👀
civic spoke
It looks like it will cost like me $100 to change out the belt, pulley, and tensioner for my car.
median egret
@stoic ledge broodje bakpao en een groene Opel manta
stoic ledge
@civic spoke for that price you're changing it yourself, right?
civic spoke
Yeah, I am.
Shouldn't really take too long. I have already been at the alternator before. So I already know what I need to get at to remove the belt, etc.
fathom socket
Hey guys what do you think of the 2020 wrx sti ?
civic spoke
Looks pretty alright.
fathom socket
Cuz i need a powerful awd car
civic spoke
Why do you need one? @fathom socket
dense shard
uhhhh WRX STi is a bit... old
Why not get a used Focus RS?
More power, more fast.
I imagine you can get a Golf R for a reasonable price.
civic spoke
That's what I imagine as well. 
Focus RS would have a similar (?) build quality to the WRX STI. And the Golf R would be a notch above both.
civic girder
Focus RS is going to be uncomfortable
modern Ford interiors are awful
idk if I'd trust a Golf R to be more reliable than a WRX
tight cypress
Nippon
indigo coral
The ford interiors aren't that bad
civic spoke
I don't even know what the guy wants out of a car.
Other than "Power and AWD"
But I guess the budget is around $35~40k.
civic girder
idk, besides trucks, I haven't sat in a Ford from the last 15 years that I thought was comfortable or had even a decent interior
broken geode
cars
u h h
i made a car wallpaper
issa mclaren 720s
uhh
h e r e u g o
720s
dense shard
From what I've heard, VW interiors aren't so much a notch above as a full leap up.
Subaru's interiors tend to be utilitarian, and in the case of the WRX... a couple of generations out of step with the rest of the product lines.
STi will be reliable... should be since that engine has been around since the Bush administration... literally.
fathom socket
i have like 1000hp how much does your car have?
dense shard
come now
It's not the horsepower it's the torque that matters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xphzk8Rr9L0 @stoic ledge So here we have a reason as to why the Xpeng is cheaper. They haven't taken the time or effort to shrink, optimize, or package their car.
And it has 3 coolant reservoirs filled with mountain dew. 🤔
stoic ledge
@dense shard it's not that bad, is it?
I mean yes, they lost some storage onder the hood and it they organized that properly, it would add probably just enough space for the charging cable.
It has a sloping hood, but from aerodynamic standpoint that's great, so couldn't really blame them for that
The trunk itself is pretty large, especially with the underfloor storage. Too bad the side pockets don't have some kind of netting to the side to keep stuff in place.
The only thing that kinda bothers me is the rear headrest, fixed + lacking a center one 
Trying to copy Tesla... 😛
Overall I don't think they did that horrible of a job tbh
median egret
carmine summit
Itsuki later: I have an 86! Everyone else: Bruh
civic spoke
I'll probably just replace the belt for the AC, not bother about the pulley/tensioner.
$120 for all the stuff. Including shipping. Eh. I guess that's alright.
So $120 shipped for main drive belt, pulley, tensioner. And a belt for the AC.
fathom socket
Can't afford a dream car but you can get one of these
civic spoke
Maybe if you stopped spending money on models. smh
fathom socket
And computer parts xD
Shame that I don't have RGB lighting just plain but oh well
I'm not sure why I have a small motherboard in a big PC case
tight cypress
dis aint cars
civic girder
dw, I have a PC with too much shit in a too small case
ATX board in a case that technically supports ATX, full dual tower CPU heatsink that doesn't fit per case specifications (but side panel still goes on), dual blower style GPUs that both run at 75C, and not enough air flow cause the case was $50
also, here is car
vague jackal
car
civic girder
tight cypress
yes'nt
fathom socket
dense shard
indigo coral
yeah i saw that
tesla should 100% be fined
heavily
for allowing that to leave the factory
dense shard
"it happens to all cars"
I have been extremely lucky that in all the years I've been driving it hasn't happened to me once
stoic ledge
🤔 never seen a steeringwheel come loose
dense shard
I've seen it in a couple of rally videos.
stoic ledge
Well > rally, that's different. Also different steeringwheels
indigo coral
it's absolutely ridiculous that the steering wheel fell off on a brand new car
dense shard
yeah
stoic ledge
You can't expect too much of a 60k car
carmine summit
the wheel should be on a splined shaft and held on with a nut
the wheel never falls off of my 23 year old VW, Tesla build quality must be terrible
indigo coral
no, steering wheels falling off is downright ridiculous.
thank goodness the guy was going slow
imagine what could have happened if he was on the highway
fathom socket
its the exact same attachment mechanism that theyve used since the start
indigo coral
yeah, that shouldn't have made it out of the factory
fathom socket
it could easily have happened after it left the factory to be fair
indigo coral
...how?
if the steering wheel fell off, the bolt was not torqued correctly or something was defective
fathom socket
magic i dont know i dont make the mechanism
fathom socket
i wonder if the bolt loosened over time or he was steering by the grooves/connectors for like a month
dense shard
It shouldn't matter.
Every single bit I can find on steering wheel removals has you remove a torqued bolt AND then you need a puller since the steering wheel tends to be stuck on the steering shaft quite tightly.
If that tweet is serious, that's honestly horrifying.
“Tesla confirmed that the steering wheel was not fixed to the body of the car with a bolt, and they are looking into what happened on production,” Tuatara said. “The Driving and Cecile standards agency here in the UK is also doing a full investigation.”
"the steering wheel isn't supposed to fall off"
fathom socket
it happens on all kind of cars though
dense shard
It doesn't.
And when it does automakers tend to do pretty serious investigations, and they'll then do a recall.
Ford had a pretty massive recall over it.
Difference is Tesla fans seem to defend this shit. A Ford/Honda/Toyota forum or subreddit would be pretty up in arms with calls for "take it to the dealership" or "this is bullshit, Ford should replace your shit."
Hell... Minor issues with delivery of cars tends to get people riled up in other subreddits. "This isn't supposed to happen" vs "This is normal."
fathom socket
ford had at least up to 140 occurences in the same model over like 4 years and didnt do anything for about 4 years
fathom socket
they also sat on the internal investigation for a few years
fathom socket
im not saying a wheel falling off is normal but its a bit far fetched to go full ahead hate tesla engineering bad after a single occurence
so in what like a year ford found 137 occurences so itd be even higher than that
dense shard
Questionable findings but they did investigate the matter.
And no one here is dissing Tesla engineering.
What is worrying is the trend of defenders saying this is normal.
It isn't.
And it only highlights a history of poor QC on the part of Tesla.
fathom socket
i think what they are trying to say is its not just tesla that suffers from qc
dense shard
This includes bad paint jobs, badly aligned trim, poorly installed body panels, and now apparently badly installed seats on the Model Y.
People come down hard on QC issues with other automakers.
Tesla fans seem more invested in condemning the people bringing up their issues rather than helping hold Tesla accountable.
Seriously. Tesla engineering is quite amazing. Apparently the Model Y has achieved some cool metal casting stuff that's pretty exotic.
But at that price point, people should expect better.
fathom socket
i suppose the issue in this instance is the guy is on twitter
dense shard
wut
fathom socket
which is always a shitstorm
you'll always get a billion comments from both sides arguing for eternity no matter what it is
dense shard
From what I've seen. People are far less forgiving of other brands.
And a steering wheel falling off on a Toyota would prompt even Toyota fans to question Toyota.
fathom socket
tesla fans are just different from normal automotive fans
theyre techies and all that
dense shard
We're invested in shilling Toyota durability/reliability... it makes us look bad when Toyota drops the ball. So we hold Toyota to a standard.
Tesla fans seem to be invested in seeing no wrong, hearing no wrong.
You can love a product and still be critical of it.
fathom socket
tesla fans are a little more open to forgiving the company than most
dense shard
A little?
Some people would go to say it's cultish.
GM vs. Chevy vs. Ford trucks doesn't even come close to this.
fathom socket
but the people that hate on tesla also have a similar ferocity
dense shard
Yes, that much in undeniable.
fathom socket
so its kinda ying yang from what i see
dense shard
Tesla haters are just as annoying if not worse.
Since they just cause the fans to dig in more regardless of context or logic.
fathom socket
looking at tesla on twitter is about as depressing as uk politics on twitter if not more
dense shard
context? Amusingly I follow almost no automotive stuff on twitter.
It's all linked to one of 4 automotive sites anyway, so I don't need 15 accounts linking Jalopnik's rehash of RCR 2 weeks later.
fathom socket
twitter automotive discussions are 98% people who dont know anything and jump on whatever conclusion they like
1% people that are just trying to stoke the fire
final 1% are people that know stuff and are trying to douse the inferno with facts
unfortunately the facts are easily lost in the deluge
dense shard
pretty much
fathom socket
dense shard
nice
errant thicket
can someone make this into a server wide emoji https://scontent.fdpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/96385759_2852381531524940_7736295226146291712_o.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=3a2dCTFhkO8AX8pUQ4Z&_nc_ht=scontent.fdpa1-1.fna&oh=f185531fdadbc8003dfa765996a2c57c&oe=5EDF04B6
i mean its near perfection
civic girder
me every day of quarantine when I don't have something to do
molten river
Noice
tight cypress
uhh tf is in inglish
uh uh uh
dis hard to explain
@stoic ledge you know when engin blows up yes
basically that but with heat
still works but no power at all
lethal garnet
put it on too hard
luckily
it’s plasti dip
so it comes off
other side is coming out much better though
stoic ledge
You're clearcoating the badges/the area around it?
lethal garnet
it’s still plasti dip, it’ll peel right off
the black is recolohring it
recolouring*
stoic ledge
Ah so you're just spraying it on there and then pull it off the bodywork itself where you don't want it
I see now
lethal garnet
yeah
the right side is coming out much better, gonna have to redo the left
luckily i did a good job of covering the car with tape so no over spray
stoic ledge
stoic ledge
Looking good Really maches the paint color too
lethal garnet
yeee
i’m redoing all the chrome in this
little bit by little so i have something to do during quarantine
slow mica
I got's the plastidip, but i don't know how well it'll work on the vw logo so i didn't do it
slow mica
but how do you remove the bits from holes of the "B" without ruining it
slow mica
so when you pressure wash it after the finished article is done does it come off easily too?
slow mica
im tempted to give it a shot now
lethal garnet
go for it, it’s removable
so if it doesn’t come out how you want, you can redo it or scrap it
dense shard
If you are lazy. There's a fairly good chance your automaker sells a blackout kit for badges/emblems.
Especially/specifically for newer cars.
SatRadio has very good marketing and retention departments.
And many people don't know spotify is a thing that exists.
I let my trial expire... now I'm getting a letter every month or so asking me for money.
-"Sir you can listen to whatever music you want"
"spotify"
-"But you can listen to talk radio or things that interest you"
"Yeah I got this great podcast series I'm following on spotify"
-"and you can take with you on the go with our app"
"uhhhhhhh.... okay wow?"
dense shard
I told em to stop calling me, and I'll let them know when I'm ready to go for their stuff again.
It's stopped.
I don't want satradio.
It's inferior in everyway to spotify.
Might try the NPR One app.
apparently that's one of like... 3 apps Toyota EnTurd 3.0 supports.
I don't have android auto.
I got my car a year before it was implemented.
bluetooth is fine.
It's a huge step up from before.
That being said I do wish I had a CD player in my car.
hmmmm... a bit pricey, but it is recharge-able, and USB C.
mental magnet
hey guys does an automatic transmission have to use an external cooler or not?
dense shard
Most modern cars have a transmission cooler. Most are integrated into the radiator like Nanikore said.
Sports cars might have a dedicated cooler?
Not quite the same aesthetic.
dense shard
I just wish I had a way to remove XM from my car.
dense shard
Anyway. Soon I'm gonna buy an intake 'system' for my car.
dat sweet sweet TRD intake.
civic girder
gotta love 0.5hp
scarlet sundial
Oh hi eastman
civic girder
nani
scarlet sundial
i remember you from the Automation server
mental magnet
Does anyone have like a diagram that that shows how an automatic transmission cooler works in a radiator please DM me thanks
dense shard
Basically you have a couple of lines going from the transmission, and they get cycled through this thing here.
mental magnet
Thank you @dense shard
dense shard
np
mental magnet
It's just that someone didn't believe that they worked in radiators so I now win the bet
civic girder
lol
dense shard
It depends on the car.
Some have external independent oil coolers, a lot have it part of the radiator itself.
mental magnet
But can cooler line goes through the radiator and then to its external cooler and then back to the transmission
dense shard
I mean... the cooler for the oil is internal to the radiator.
mental magnet
No is because I have a 2005 Ford Excursion Powerstroke in the cooler line goes into the massive radiator than to its cooler and then back to transmission I'm either seen something or I'm going crazy
But thanks man
mental magnet
Yeah 5 speed automatic transmission technically apparently it's 6 its six speed but only that gear engages when is 5° to get the transmission really warm basically it's for Alaska
indigo coral
my stupid car does that
locks out 4th
until its warm
so I end up sitting at 3500rpm doing 50 until its warm
lol
(the road i turn onto is 50)
serene jetty
carmine summit
vernal sedge
ok I have 3000 dollars but I want to get a sports car preferrably under that any suggestions?
and preferrably one that is reliable
lethal garnet
@dense shard they don’t for the outback, at least the 2015-2019 3.6R
dense shard
You aren't getting much for 3000 dollars.
And old NA Miata?
And older Camaro or Mustang.
Also a Subaru Outback is no Excursion. Those are expected to be used for towing and other high load applications.
stoic ledge
Lexus RX300
dapper spire
@stoic ledge My wife has a Lexus RX350L
stoic ledge
dapper spire
She's spoiled
dapper spire
lol
stoic ledge
indigo coral
If my RX has a big problem and I can't afford a G70 yet, might get that
33mpg highway + 310hp
stoic ledge
Good choice probably
viral matrix
viral matrix
stoic ledge
tight cypress
kaas is 72cc now
stoic ledge
🧀
tight cypress
so much torque
stoic ledge
@indigo coral that was the first gen Century, this is the second gen 🙃
Oof how much torque?
indigo coral
4500lb/ft
stoic ledge
At least
dense shard
https://electrek.co/2020/05/12/tesla-super-fandom-becomes-toxic-negative-electric-revolution-op-ed/ oh how the tables are turning
indigo coral
lol
dense shard
tbh: it's been toxic for a while now. It's just spreading within the community now.
indigo coral
i personally like the cars, i don't like the company
dense shard
So hey, maybe Tesla can best the fighting game community and work on getting good. lol
Just as the Cupertino, California, tech company made people fall in love with their phones, Tesla was able seduce their customers to fall in love with their cars.
I only disagree with this bit.
indigo coral
if the company acted right and quit with their anticonsumer BS, I'd prob buy a Model 3
dense shard
People have been falling in love with their cars decades before.
indigo coral
yeah lmao
dense shard
Queen, Deep Purple, Prince.
All wrote love songs to cars.
In the case of Prince, the Corvette.
Ludacris has featured his early 90s Acura on an album cover. Apparently got it totally restored recently. He loves that thing.
indigo coral
90s acura was acuras only good era
dense shard
Then you have literally any boomer with any car made before 1975. lol
indigo coral
seems like Lexus and Genesis are the only two successful luxury-sub-brands
infiniti is shit, acura is kind of shit, etc
dense shard
They love their C2 Corvettes, Mustangs, and Chrysler products.
indigo coral
i guess lincoln is okay
dense shard
meh
I'll take Acura over Lincoln as far as rebadged luxury goes.
Lincoln maybe over Infiniti.
indigo coral
At least lincoln has nice interiors
dense shard
Lexus over the rest.
dense shard
They're dated.
indigo coral
Lexus has been wildly successful, and Genesis seems to be doing well too
dense shard
Genesis is a stupid brand that shouldn't exist, and I love them for it.
indigo coral
why is it stupid?
lol
they make real nice cars
the new G90 is a bit...ugly though
dense shard
It's superfluous in the face of two preexisting brands one of which is already supposed to be the luxury one.
Kia and Hyundai should be enough, but nah.
indigo coral
wait hold up
dense shard
Then again Americans are weird, and refuse to pay more for perceived budget brands.
dense shard
lol Hyundai
Kia is supposed to be the sporty brand.
Well that didn't quite work out.
dense shard
Well realities haven't lined up to internal marketing.
Therefore Genesis was far less effort to create.
As opposed to realigning the two companies radically, but I digress.
indigo coral
Idk I'm totally gonna get a G70 at some point lol
indigo coral
Lol
dense shard
The more I read Toyota's confirmation of a GR hatchback...
The more it sounds like we are getting the Yaris.
dense shard
“while GR Yaris isn’t coming to the U.S., perhaps it’s time the U.S. got a Toyota hot hatch to call its own.”
Maybe my dream will come true, and Toyota will just up the engine on the normal Corolla hatch.
Watch it be the CH-R.
civic girder
the CH-R is probs Toyota's worst car in a long while
dense shard
It's selling well enough.
stoic ledge
CH-R rides on the exact same platform as the Corolla
dense shard
It's an amusing car all things considered, but it cries out for more power or hybrid power.
stoic ledge
Europe has the Hybrid
dense shard
Hopefully Toyota will drop the current engine in favor of the M20A-FKS.
dense shard
Yep.
civic girder
yea, its on the same platform, but it looks kinda weird, is slow, and is built very cheaply compared to other Toyotas
dense shard
I kinda like the styling.
stoic ledge
Yeah I don't like the looks either
dense shard
But it is slow, and it is built in Turkey.
stoic ledge
Corolla is much nicer
Also saw the new Corolla sedan the other day, that's a rare sight here
dense shard
They're totally different, but I still mistake them for the last gen cars from behind.
Despite looking totally different.
stoic ledge
You mistake the Corolla from behind? It's completely different no?
civic girder
the styling is heavily influenced by last gen
dense shard
The taillight design is totally different.
civic girder
its different, but the body lines are very very similar
I often mistake current gen and last gen for early 2000s Corollas from the side
dense shard
It's just so unmistakably a corolla I catch myself sometimes thinking the wrong thing.
Hatchback tho... We at each other when we pass by.
dense shard
"oh wow someone else got a hatchback... good taste"
civic girder
All the other Prius people don't care
dense shard
shame
civic girder
and I never see FBs or even NA Miatas
dense shard
I still think the Prius is neat.
civic girder
so I can't headlight flip
and whenever I see other popup cars, they never return my headlight flips
indigo coral
wot
stoic ledge
Prius IV is ugly af
civic girder
like, a guy in a SW20 waved at me when I flicked my headlights
civic girder
I actually like the facelift Prius IV
the prefacelift Prius IV had a hideous front and a meh rear
indigo coral
the prius interiors suuuuuck
civic girder
wot
indigo coral
super ugly
civic girder
only 3rd gen Prius interior sucks
civic girder
1st, 2nd, and 4th have good interiors
dense shard
I like the aesthetic of the 3rd gen tbh.
civic girder
cheap, but well layed out and intuitive
civic girder
I DESPISE the sloping console
dense shard
2nd gen gets a pass because that was then.
civic girder
my brother's Lexus is basically a luxury 3rd gen Prius, so it has the sloping console
I hate that console
nothing is where you expect it to be
stoic ledge
Prius 3 is the best looking imho
civic girder
and why allow the screen to fold down if you can't see climate control changes without the screen being up
stoic ledge
civic girder
I always thought the 3rd gen Prius was galaxy brain for having the screen fold down to access the CD player
like wot
stoic ledge
Don't really think that many people use the CD player anymore... and those who do don't really mind it I think. It cleans up the dashboard
stoic ledge
That looks waaaay cheaper than the Prius 3 interior imho
civic girder
wait
stoic ledge
Yeah I was just about to say
civic girder
is it?
stoic ledge
That's the C
dense shard
yeah, I'm like... 90% certain.
civic girder
oh shit u rite
dense shard
... that looks way better than I remember it.
stoic ledge
Full size Prius has a different shifter
civic girder
2020 Prius V interior
dense shard
not bad
civic girder
I really like that
stoic ledge
Yeah I don't mind that one
civic girder
it harkens back to the Echo cluster placement and 2nd gen Prius interior design
also looks like it has dual glove box
dense shard
All cars should have dual glove boxes.
civic girder
This is apparently the 2020 Prius Prime
stoic ledge
Or just a big main one
dense shard
I'm not a fan of the gloss black plastic.
stoic ledge
I don't think the Prime differs from the regular IV?
dense shard
different generations.
dense shard
oh wait, derp
stoic ledge
Yeah I know 😛
dense shard
Interior is actually different.
civic girder
I don't mind the gloss black plastic
dense shard
The Prime has a much bigger touch screen.
civic girder
maybe
tight cypress
hmh
civic girder
Prime Advanced probs has the bigger screen
tight cypress
think time
stoic ledge
Isn't that optional?