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lethal garnet
warm sparrow
oh pikes peak
you know you've played dirt rally too much when you know exactly where that part of the track is xD
fathom socket
i bet u also know the location of every thing to crash into also
civic girder
yep
BeamNG is very good at that
crash and then your car is fucked, so you have to restart
fathom socket
i love the crash physics but the driving dynamics never quite work for me
civic girder
What do you use to play? Controller?
I know controller is pretty hard to get good lap times with
Wheel is pretty good, though the tire simulation is a little meh
On the vanilla cars tho, the tire simulation is pretty good. Its when you start getting into modded cars that it can get sketch
Controller just sucks for playing BeamNG like a racing sim. Great for just dicking around, but if you try to get serious its not a great option
fathom socket
yeah im talking about tyres on mod cars
i play keyboard but ive also tried a wheel
wheel seemed to go much better
civic girder
keyboard is pretty trashy even for just dicking around
but that goes with most racing games, so đ¤ˇ
fathom socket
porting cars from automation works pretty well
civic girder
Yea
I like using BeamNG to test the cars I make
very useful for comparing classes of vehicles
good for helping me write lore
fathom socket
What do you guys think of this low mileage Corvette not sure what year it is
What blows my mind is it has pop up headlights I know in the 2000s there is a last Corvette to have pop up headlights
civic girder
C5 was the last to have popups, but that looks too old to be a C5
indigo coral
It's a C4
warm sparrow
Oh
I just discovered where you're from xD
(maybe for the second or third time yea)
fathom socket
you got a few scratches there on the front bumper i see
stoic ledge
PrĂŠ-facelift, facelift came in 2005, so 2002-2005
fathom socket
ah i was close
well pretty much right
can i join the club in my 02 mini?
gang*
stoic ledge
Sure
fathom socket
ayy
stoic ledge
stoic ledge
Ah ok, looks a tad different to both the fender and rear door, that's why
tight cypress
@stoic ledge Kaas'nt
stoic ledge
đ§
tight cypress
i dont like these rims
flint sable
Mmm carbon mirrors
tight cypress
mm rice
jagged coyote
I wanna do that to mine, not the whole thing tho, since my mirror had been wrecked by someone, now i've got mismatched covers
echo tiger
v e r y r i c e
jagged coyote
it was already riced a bit, parts that were supposed to be black plastic were painted a glossy black ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
wide remnant
dense shard
No, it's sketchy as hell.
tight cypress
buggy as hell
normal temple
been fine for me
tight cypress
+needs some rtx card to even run guud
frozen knot
Hype, killing myself financially today đ a new used Toyota it is
flint sable
Oh sweet
frozen knot
Doubt you would know the model, since it's practically only found in Europe. A Toyota Avensis, somewhat resembling a Camry
Shit picture, but it's something
frozen knot
This happened to be the 2liter disel.
Sadly the never less reliable 2 liter engine. But since it's a 13 year ol car, I can't really be picky
civic girder
Isn't the Avensis just a Camry with a smaller engine?
tardy lance
Hi all đ
stoic ledge
civic girder
Hi
civic girder
Interesting
stoic ledge
The Avensis shown above does share the same platform as the RAV4 and your Prius iirc
civic girder
I coulda sworn the Avensis was based on a platform we have in North America
stoic ledge
Yeah, Rav4 and Prius xD
civic girder
The Prius is based on the Corolla, at least the 2nd gen was
stoic ledge
And the 3rd gen is on the same platform as the Lexus HS
stoic ledge
Wait lemme check it, I thought it was the MC Platform, sec
Ah yes the Corolla also uses the MC Platform
civic girder
I'm quite certain my 2nd gen Prius and my dad's HS have the same wheelbase
civic girder
Lmao
I had no idea the Prius was known as the XW
Lmao
Makes it sound cool
Gonna start calling it my XW20
stoic ledge
Nice how they went XW10-20-30-50 in the Prius naming
Yes the Prius+ is XW40, but it'd have made more sense if that was called the XW35 or something
stoic ledge
No it's actually different from a Yaris for some reason
> Imo the V is the worst car Toyota ever made
Why?
civic girder
It's really ugly to me, and it weighs so much more so the fuel eco is worse than a standard Prius. Plus I think the interior space is about the same, it's barely more.
Basically just a different body style
Completely unnecessary
stoic ledge
It's definitely larger on the inside
Hell, it's even a 7 seater
At least, in Europe it was
But the European version also got a LI battery where the US one had a NiMH iirc
OOF apparently we can still get a brand new Prius+/v/...
civic girder
You mean two engines bolted together
Or 1 and a half
depending on how you want to look at it
The R26B is technically two 13Bs and also technically a 20B + half a 13B at the same time
but the superior 4 rotor is the one that Mazda pretends doesn't exist
stoic ledge
Oof :/
vast harness
Anyone drive or had a Jeep XJ
dense shard
I had a couple of friends with one... why?
vast harness
im looking for first cars
and they have jeeps most legendary motor and i live in michigan and it snows alot
so a nice jdm car would be hard to drive
and the xj is a good offroading platform
dense shard
Then yes.
Good luck finding a clean one tho. At this point they're either shit buckets or survivors.
vast harness
i found some for 5 grand in my area already kitted for off-roading like full suspension
civic girder
how many frames have they had
also, most Jeeps that are modified for off-road are done poorly
You're better off trying to get a stock one if you want something that won't fall apart
and always check for rust
but tbh, for a first car, I'd say get a low or rust free Subaru Forester. You can make them off-road if you want, but tbh I'd just leave it stock for that dd status
if you want something more fun, save up and get a second car
As a fellow rust belt sufferer, never make your fun car (whatever fun is to you) your dd, ESPECIALLY in the winter
if you want an XJ as a dd, get a stock one and don't modify it
if you want an XJ for fun stuff, then getting a modded one, or modding one yourself is fine; but get one as a second car
I know a guy who used to have an XJ, actually. He shit a frame once from rust, and it was on its 3rd transmission when he sold it.
I believe it was a manual one
vast harness
Yea I preferably have grip track car for my fun car
And then I could have the xj as a daily
Because having a nice civic si with coilovers is not good in the winter
But I donât have a safe storage place for it in the winter
If I could find a small open tip trailer I could probably tow my track car with a xj
tight cypress
drift better
vast harness
Ik but itâs a lot more money
vast harness
Yea you need a lot of money for tires
I can make a set r888s on a grip car last a long time
Or even pilot sport cup 2s
tight cypress
i have been driftin for 3 years with my car
still same tires
really depends where you dorifto
vast harness
That wonât work dailyâs tires donât last nearly that long
tight cypress
ya got any idea what tires im using?
vast harness
And "drift" cars have an imaginary tax on them for being so called "drift" cars
tight cypress
fwd drifto
vast harness
Like I can get a civic si and put wheels and tires on it and it will be good
Lol
@civic girder you say no mods for dailyâs what about a 2 inch lift and decent wheels and tires
I could save it for a project race car
fathom socket
frail shore
a sandpaper attachment to a power drill etc would make it faster
also what corvette model and year is that? looks nice as hell, guessing a 70s model?
fossil imp
dense shard
Bumpers are supposedly rubber.
carmine summit
I know where there's a C3 that's been sitting in weeds for years
dense shard
C3 looks nice, but those were not great sports cars.
carmine summit
the C4 is a really good platform to modify
they handle fairly well and they're cheap
dense shard
can you survive social distancing in a million dollar RV
-some rich person on youtube
normal temple
Gone sexual
civic girder
@vast harness lift and wheels/tires are fine, just make sure the lift is done correctly and tires are actually road tires. Off-road tires will make ridiculously loud noise, be uncomfortable, and dramatically reduce fuel economy. Shitty job on the lift could at best just be uncomfortable, but could end up causing severe damage (especially if the underside is rusty). Personally, I would highly advise against any mods beyond wheels and tires, but ultimately it is your car. The moment you start changing things, the car is no longer going to be as reliable as it was from the factory (there are exceptions to this, but is highly dependant on what car you have and what mods you do).
vast harness
Ok
stoic ledge
Never will I pay a subscription fee for that
dense shard
Cost is extreme.
Also this. đ¤
While GM and Ford are making respirators, Elon is whining.
stoic ledge
It was to be expected tbh
dense shard
Who knows. It might only be 50 dollars.
It doesn't make sense to offer a subscription no one will buy.
unless the Tesla fan logic is, "but you'll only buy a subscription when you go on long trips and actually use it"
stoic ledge
đ probably
https://jbclassiccars.com/?portfolio=tesla-shooting-brake-2
The Shooting Brake Model S is for sale
Private Buyers have to pay VAT in this case the price will be ⏠224.521,55.
One big price for a 2013 P85
dense shard
That chrome on the end looks really tacky.
stoic ledge
Yeah too big
fathom socket
i mean if its cheaper than paying someone to drive ur car its not completely without a market
dense shard
Idea is a subscription costs less than buying a product outright.
If you raise the price where the costs are nearly equivalent, there's no economic reason to subscribe.
dense shard
A pending feature.
civic girder
That'd be like paying Mazda monthly so that the choke on my carburetor works
dense shard
FSD hasn't technically been implemented yet... you can become a beta tester for it, but it's not out yet.
Even Electrek is a bit cool on this entire thing.
They're as much Tesla fans as the shorts are haters.
"Right now, I personally donât think Navigate on Autopilot, Summon, Autopark, etc. are worth $7,000, but if Tesla delivers on a complete âfeature-completeâ system by the end of the year, even if it requires driver attention, I think the price is starting to make sense."
This is more akin to buying a season pass for your car, and hoping the company actually gets around to implementing it.
Which progress IS being made towards it... soooo yeah.
civic girder
Sounds dumb to me
dense shard
I am not a fan of the model.
I want to pay upfront for a feature that is working now.
Beats BMW charging people 100 dollars a year for a feature that has no licensing fees and a one time hardware implementation fee.
(since which BMW has done away with that fee because even they realized that was stupid)
civic girder
Can't wait for Tesla to be considered the EA of cars
dense shard
urgh
I hate EA for that nickel and diming bullshit.
"I don't want to buy FSD up front, I rather pay a 100 a month."
civic girder
yea, a lot of what I've seen in regards to Tesla in the last year or so is making me really not want to EVER consider a Tesla
dense shard
Bud... just buy the feature outright.... you can spread the cost out over 72 months at 100 dollars a month.
Same outcome
At the rate the industry is going.
I won't be considering a BEV for quite a long time.
civic girder
Yea, pretty much same
The only "EVs" I'll be considering will be Prius and MX-30
ofc MX-30 I'll be getting with the rotary
Prius, I doubt I'd go for the Prime
or even the AWD one for that matter
dense shard
Get in the Civic, Shinji!
I wonder when the US will start offering hybrids for lower end cars.
A hybrid Fit or Yaris would be swell.
civic girder
The Prius C was a hybrid Yaris
stoic ledge
Basically yes
civic girder
It wasn't as blatant a ripoff as the first gen Prius was of the Echo
You can't tell me these aren't the same car lmao
stoic ledge
Wait according to Wikipedia, the new Yaris has 2 electric motors?
59 kW (79 hp; 80 PS) 1NM AC synchronous (front, 1.5 L hybrid)
3.9Â kW (5.2Â hp; 5.3Â PS)Â 1MMÂ AC synchronous (rear, 1.5Â L hybrid)
And lul kinda similar
civic girder
so the Yaris is just straight up a hybrid now?
and 1.5L, sounds familiar
is it a 1NZ-FXE
civic girder
I would've laughed it was the 1NZ
dense shard
FKS is just petrol FXS/FXE is in the hybrids.
civic girder
cause that's what I have in my second gen
stoic ledge
Wheelbase
2,550Â mm (100.4Â in) (Japanese market)
2,560Â mm (100.8Â in) (European marketÂ
Why tho xD
civic girder
lmao
dense shard
taxes probably
civic girder
gotta cheat that displacement tax mang
dense shard
Hell having an engine displacement on CC over means next tax bracket.
stoic ledge
Idk just create the .4 inch smaller one xD
dense shard
or wait
wheelbase... could be different suspension setups.
or not. The JDM Yaris is narrower by a couple of inches.
dense shard
JDM Yaris is smaller.
stoic ledge
And higher
dense shard
Now that could be suspension.
Then again only the Japanese truly appreciate headroom.
stoic ledge
Probably actually taller
Ah yes, the e-AWD is for the Japanese market
Europe Hybrid is FWD only
dense shard
Japan loves their AWD.
Makes sense considering the Western side can get a stupid amount of snow.
civic girder
afaik, the e-AWD is fake AWD tho
dense shard
It's no more fake than the rest of the on-demand AWD setups.
civic girder
fair enough
dense shard
But yes. The rear wheels aren't connected to the engine. It's pure electric in the back.
stoic ledge
Well that's kinda common for those systems, I know more hybrids like that
stoic ledge
dense shard
I think the new RLX is the NSX styled AWD stuff.
civic girder
12A is best engine
stoic ledge
Nice smoke eastman xD
dense shard
Sounds like a thousand ripping pants
stoic ledge
RLX looks old
stoic ledge
Oof xD
dense shard
It's so old it still uses double A-arms in the front.
stoic ledge
I like how European Honda's like the Accord were considered Premium in the US, and sold as Acura xD
dense shard
For reference. Honda moved the Accord to mcpherson struts in around 2012?
stoic ledge
I think it had it earlier, no?
stoic ledge
Even my Corsa has it, and it first launched in 2006
Wait McPherson front struts right?
dense shard
yes
Okay to be fair the suspension type isn't a huge deal.
But double wishbone suspension up front was considered superior for a few reasons.
And Honda's move away from it in 2001 with the Civic and 2013 with the Accord did cause people to worry.
Then again Porsche and BMW are kinda famous for using front struts and BMW is considered a benchmark for handling.
stoic ledge
I mean, basically everything uses it these days
dense shard
yep
I think double control arms means less torque steer? đ¤
I honestly don't remember.
My Corolla has not enough torque to make torque steer an issue. lol
dense shard
stoic ledge
stoic ledge
Yes that was awful
dense shard
Nah. It wasn't bad tbh.
In retrospect it was competitive against the Civic and Corolla.
stoic ledge
Well in the European market that would've been aweful, since the competitors were way better xD
dense shard
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/2006-2009_Honda_Civic_VTi_sedan_(2018-10-19)_01.jpg This was the car it competed against.
stoic ledge
Although the EU Focus was fine
dense shard
This generation of Civic was... blah.
stoic ledge
We only had that Civic as a hybrid5, and the only reason people bought leased them were tax advantages
dense shard
weird styling, cheap interior, but at least it was comfy enough.
stoic ledge
xD
dense shard
yeah, I believe that
But I'd rather get a Prius at that point.
Faster, better fuel economy.
stoic ledge
Those sold better, yes
https://media.autoweek.nl/m/9iqy0q1b8ylx_800.jpg
Mk2 Focus Wagon
dense shard
Up until recently. You had to be a hardcore Honda fan to buy the Insight or hybrid Civic.
Euro styling for Ford was nice.
stoic ledge
The Insight was horrible too
Especially the interior was way better compared to the US Focus
stoic ledge
Cheaper Prius by being worse
Idk if it was actually that much cheaper here
Civic Hybrid âŹ24k, Prius âŹ25k
Not that different tho
stoic ledge
Insight was cheaper yes
dense shard
Civic Hybrid got discontinued after 2011 I think.
stoic ledge
Base âŹ19990
dense shard
In the US.
stoic ledge
2012 in Europe
dense shard
Honda's track record with EVs is pretty crap.
stoic ledge
https://media.autoweek.nl/m/8kly31rb72bt_480.jpg
Civic Wagon
dense shard
The gen 1 Insight was nice, but useless. 2nd gen Insight was trash.
ah yes. The Jade?
stoic ledge
They did make a manual Hybrid, the CR-Z which is fun
dense shard
I honestly think the Corolla Wagon is nicer.
The CR-Z tho... 35 mpg for a hybrid?
lol yeah no
stoic ledge
The Civic Wagon was just called the Civic Wagon xD
dense shard
Do they even make a Civic Wagon anymore?
stoic ledge
Can't really compare it to the new Corolla since it's much older
Came out in 2014
No previous gen Civic
Now there is no wagon anymore
Probably only made them for the EU market (or outside too?) But nobody in Europe bought them
With a starting price 5k more than competitors not surprising
And the interior wasn't that nice either
The satnav looks so aftermarket
And then another small screen on top of the dash
A digital speedometer above analog gauges
It's just a mess
stoic ledge
No wonder nobody bought one
stoic ledge
https://www.automobiledimension.com/photos/interior/kia-ceed-2018-dashboard.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/39/cd/df/39cddfecb596b1b5a1735c7aec19c781.jpg
https://cdn.group.renault.com/ren/master/renault-new-cars/product-plans/megane/2560x1440-responsive-format/renault-megane4-ph1-interior-zoom-002.jpg.ximg.small.jpg/1537789870965.jpg
Ang competitior looks way better
Oof that's actually a cool Honda
Why don't we have that
Just like the JDM Odyssey, way cooler
JDM*
stoic ledge
Exactly
fathom socket
I found a 95 celica gt4 for sale locally
12k
rip
:0
likely jdm
i must be weird liking 80-90s jdm
doesn't seem to be as big as of recently
next forge
fathom socket
i cannot literally fit inside an integra
i tried
đŚ
was gonna be my first car
got a 98 civic instead, drove that thing to the ground
short shifter n all
such a fun car to drive
civic spoke
Just bolt it to the roof.
fathom socket
The moment when you signed a contract for a new vehicle because your current is about to give up within half a year, COVID19 kicks in and you get an order confirmation with
estimated delivery: To be determined
stoic ledge
Classic
fathom socket
Ordered a VW e-up... đ
civic spoke
Just don't get a pandemic. smh
What's the range on the e-UP?
Estimated, I should say.
fathom socket
Realistic range at speed 100kph and AC with 10 Celsius difference to outside at dry weather, about 220km
But at least during the colder seaons, I do not use the heater at all. Unless we go two-digit sub-zero at least.
civic spoke
220 km's is pretty dang good.
fathom socket
32kWh netto capacity, 36kWh brutto.
Equals to 250km range on WLTP, equals about 12.8kWh/100km.
Can charge with 11kW AC and up to 43kW DC.
fathom socket
For me, being single and working at an IT-service provider, its maybe the best car to get.
Instant torque, easily charge at home and work and sufficient space to load up even a small serverrack bc. I do not need the 2nd seating row
dense shard
Only issue I see there is severe software issues.
civic spoke
I imagine that the VW e-UP would be a pain to live with for me.
Considering that I do 100 km's on the daily.
fathom socket
I do about 50-100km daily too đ¤Ł
Sometimes 150
dense shard
VW has delayed teh car by a year to fix/make software, and the new Golf apparently also has issues with the software.
For a company purportedly having been working on the ID.3 for something like a decade now... blah.
Oh wait... the e-UP... maybe fewer issues there?
fathom socket
The ID series is seperate from the e-Up. The e-Up is in revision 2020, its already in production and being sold
dense shard
oh, good on VW for not fucking that up.
fathom socket
Its my first own bought car. The first iteration of the e-up only had half the capacity and therefore only 120km range.
Back in 2014 I guess
dense shard
nice!
And naturally something the US doesn't get.
I'd love a small EV for short commutes to work.
fathom socket
The e-up is the smallest car in the VW setup.
My dream car and is something I may be able to purchase within 5-7years is something else... Though the difficult part would be to get a plate for it in Germany...
The Tesla CT
dense shard
I've made my view on Tesla clear over the past few whatevers.
fathom socket
By price:performance, no one can compete with Tesla. Its a fact. Though I'm not yet having that kind of money, but I'm working towards it.
In hope it gets allowed in Germany.
fathom socket
Yes. Together with the Cyberquad ATV
dense shard
Or in a few cases it gets trounced quite handily.
I don't remember if this is EPA, NHTSA or whatever, but according to them the CT competes with heavy duty trucks in the US... which completly changes the picture.
fathom socket
Thing is, I do like offroading and camping. I can't fill up a gasoline truck on the camping trip or power kitchen using it.
I can with a BEV though, taking a 3qm solarpanels and/or a small portable wind turbine with me and running induction based kitchen
dense shard
You can absolutely power a kitching using a heavy duty truck.
A lot of modern trucks offer heavy duty alternators, extra batteries, and 120V outlets.
fathom socket
But you can't end the day with more than what you started with without going back into civilization
dense shard
Though most camping setups use propane for cooking.
Considering a lot of overlanders can spend days if not more out in the boonies... I don't think cooking fuel is a huge concern.
fathom socket
A square meter of solar with 20% efficiency can aquire 200W on a sunny day. Get 2,5 square meters, having 500W. Get it for 5hrs and you aquired 2.5kWh.
Assume a truck going 10kWh/100km when you run 10-20kph offroad, you can get a 25km range per day.
dense shard
That's assuming you have full sunlight.
fathom socket
Yes. The day being maybe 10hrs daylight, taking 5hrs of effective sunlight.
And a silent ATV makes short range travel around a basecamp much more easily.
I'm really looking forward to this aspect of future.
dense shard
I'm sticking to gasoline if I ever go camping.
Pick up an old beater Tundra, and have fun.
I don't think I could take a 60k truck out onto a rough trail and be able to scratch it up.
The stress alone would kill me.
fathom socket
Thats fine. I currently drive a Golf 3 Cabrio with sports upgrade.
I really like to drive it between 4-6kRPM and push it.
Cybertruck in RWD base variant costs a 40 grand. AWD 50, Tri-Drive 70 grand.
civic spoke
The Cybertruck is big.
fathom socket
Its a big boi.
civic spoke
Too big for me.
dense shard
oh yeah, it's stupid big
civic spoke
My area downstairs isn't small enough for it.
fathom socket
I'm 1,91cm tall and about 65cm wide. It's not too big for me. đ
Physiologists say, someone should sit at the height of the hip in a vehicle.
dense shard
To the point Tesla is working hard on redesigning the truck.
Point is the thing is too long and wide to drive comfortably or safety.
Americans already have issues driving their Suburbans and 8 foot bed Silverados.
fathom socket
If I get a CyberTruck, I would just only use the ATV for city. I would just use the CT over country and offroad
dense shard
As far as I can tell.
It's a wonderful mall crawler.
Not much use as a pick up truck.
fathom socket
The Cybertruck literally is a ram.
That's why I like it. That's why it most likely won't get allowed in Germany.
Result: I need to emigrate đ¤Ł
dense shard
Also yeah
I don't see the EU approving the CT as is.
It's gonna murder pedestrians.
fathom socket
Isn't that... ||intended?|| || đ ||
dense shard
I hope not.
fathom socket
I will not drive it where pedestrians would become an issue. That's what I use the ATV for.
The CT is an offroad-vehicle, so the AllTerrainVehicle is then considered to run on dense pedestrian-areas. đ
dense shard
I guarantee you very few Americans will take their cybertrucks off road.
And I imagine few will tow much with it.
fathom socket
I'm as an European would 100% take it offroad and do a tour across the north-east of europe
Because I do like it cold.
dense shard
So a 15-30% hit on range.
We'll see what's what. Tesla is already changing working on changing the truck.
fathom socket
I mean, which pedestrian wouldn't try to flee instantly if this drives towards you..
dense shard
The ones who are trying to see if the driver is asleep or texting.
fathom socket
Unless I visited McDonalds DriveIn, I would drive manually
fathom socket
Where I live, the Bundeswehr (army) does sometimes go to McDonalds. Because we have barracks near by
...with a crew transporter
civic spoke
dense shard
I'm guessing they to to macca's using a Mercedes G-Wagon
fathom socket
So that one will compete with Tesla's Roadster V2? Which is intended to be a mass produced, 200 grand vehicle for 4 persons and 400kph and up to 1.9s from 0-100
dense shard
and it will have rockets, and shoot lasers at rain to stop rain from falling.
I'll believe it when I see it.
fathom socket
The SpaceX upgrade package.
Just a compressor using Falcon Rocket maneuvering Thrusters with compressed air.
dense shard
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Mowag_Eagle_V.jpg This thing is about 50 cm shorter than the Cybertruck.
indigo coral
do not buy the 8 Pro @civic spoke
dense shard
The military has more compact equpiment.
civic spoke
@indigo coral Why, tho?
fathom socket
My most favorite car before the Cybertruck
indigo coral
horrible screen issues
green tint and red tint are really common
people have had overheating problems as well
dense shard
oof
I do wonder about the CT's touted tow figures.
I wonder how many people towing will overheat their trucks and get stranded in the rockies.
The Big Three had issues before 2010 with their own tow figures till they all agreed to a standard test.
indigo coral
nobody is actually going to tow with the cybertruck
fathom socket
Good point about BEVs.. You can run them in areas with thin air... Or underwater đ
indigo coral
it'll be a mall crawler
dense shard
Someone will.
Altitude isn't a problem for modern engines.
Especially turbo charged engines.
indigo coral
i bet mine would crap out at high altitude
no turbo charging and tiny motor
and old
lol
fathom socket
Altitude is an issue for helicopters. Which can't reach the everest mountain peak.
Though, even The Roadster in space at Mars can still drive.
dense shard
Naturally aspirated engines will always crap out.
The Roadster has likely disintigrated from constant solar bombardment.
fathom socket
Maybe. Still speaking of functionality, a BEV can run in a vacuum or submerged
dense shard
Which is irrelevant on the surface of earth.
indigo coral
^
dense shard
Because you will destroy anything that's underwater.
I can bet money the interior of the CT isn't water proof.
fathom socket
No its not. Not when you live in an area which sometimes get flooded 1m+
dense shard
Then your shit will be fucked regardless.
indigo coral
Teslas still get ruined in floods
fathom socket
E.musk wants to CT to be more water proof than the other Teslas and even being able to float
dense shard
All modern cars will float for a short time.
indigo coral
he's having some sort of mental break rn
dense shard
I'm sorry, but good panel gaps and good door seals aren't a selling point anymore.
That hasn't been a bragging point since Japan started building cars in the US.
fathom socket
Why should Musk have a mental break? đ¤
dense shard
cocaine habit?
indigo coral
did you listen to his earnings call or read his tiwtter?
dense shard
lol that was great
fathom socket
Yes I did. I approved
dense shard
Apparently a shelter at home is now facist.
indigo coral
he's going on expletive filled rants about shutdowns, and today it came out that he dumped all his properties and tweeted about tesla share price being too high
stoic ledge
His Twitter is a shit show
indigo coral
he's just losing his marbles
dense shard
God forbid you try to protect your workers.
He came off as an angry old capitalist who just wants money instead of help society.
fathom socket
Maybe we shouldn't go into discussing this. Its severly polarizing #politics #opinions
dense shard
This isn't politics.
stoic ledge
What public safety ~ Elon
dense shard
Ford and GM are building ventilators, Tesla sent CPAP machines.
indigo coral
his statements about the closures are completely indefensible and were rash and damaging to his and his company's public image.
fathom socket
Public safety only counts until a certain threshold. That is why the armaments of the US exist
dense shard
Public safety... The man whose company has turned away OSHA inspectors.
dense shard
My issues with Tesla aren' the products. It's the services, the company, and what they represent.
fathom socket
Germany is lowering the restrictions because mental issues are more serve than Corona
dense shard
And soon Corona will be a more severe issue than some cabin fever.
fathom socket
Mental issues is one reason of a total of 3
dense shard
From a historical perspective... Spanish Flu's death rate rocketed in the second wave.
indigo coral
^
stoic ledge
Fanbois: xcuse moi
fathom socket
I am essential. IT service provider đ
indigo coral
where's aerial
dense shard
No automaker is essential.
stoic ledge
@indigo coral tag him
dense shard
Dealers have enough stock left to service the economy.
indigo coral
@sand junco what do you think about musk's rant about the closures
stoic ledge
Wrong Aerial
fathom socket
Automaker is essential, because I am essential. And without car, I can not work. đ
stoic ledge
I think
dense shard
Then go to a repair shop.
Buy used.
Go buy a fossil powered car.
Automotive manufacturing is NOT essential.
stoic ledge
He's not in the server anymore
fathom socket
That sentence of mine is 
indigo coral
damn i wanted to see him rail against us while whacking it to tesla xD
dense shard
Tesla is a low hanging fruit to bash because they place themselves there.
fathom socket
We really should stop it here and return to cars...
dense shard
Telsa is talking about cars.
Auto industry pracitices are 100% fitting in with this channel.
dense shard
I saw another hatchback a few days ago. I swear the driver gave me a look as they drove by.
Sedans are getting more common, and about a third of them are already beat up. I don't know how people do that.
civic spoke
Speaking of beat up.
I looked up the old E46 320i that our family used to have. It's deregistered đŚ
dense shard
oh no
stoic ledge
Sad
dense shard
stoic ledge
Still no word of the stolen E91... We'll never seen it again
dense shard
I'm sure you'll see it in some eastern european instagrammer's post.
stoic ledge
Probably
dense shard
Or has the car stealing stereotype moved South?
dense shard
nice! dammit
stoic ledge
Tbh it's probably parted out
civic spoke
Here they usually go from Sweden to Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania.
That part of the world.
stoic ledge
Same, or Poland, Romania etc
Probably stolen on order
Or it has been driven in to a shed/shop nearby and will move in pieces to the East
dense shard
In my our their defense... BMW parts expensive!
stoic ledge
Although a friends stolen RS6 had driven around for over 4 months with changing plates
Yeah that's why I'm quite certain it's parted out
stoic ledge
Especially since it had basically all wanted option
You can copy the key via OBD.... Too easy tbh
civic spoke
@dense shard They litearlly just copy the key from a distance.
dense shard
And with modern telematics... can't these things be tracked?
stoic ledge
dense shard
so you don't even have to RF swipe em... just break into the car.
civic spoke
You can easily copy the key of a car using a fob for starting the car.
dense shard
A small point of worry.
stoic ledge
It didn't have keyless entry so they couldn't have extended that signal
I'm quite certain they just copied/created a key via OBD
civic spoke
stoic ledge
It didn't have keyless
That can easily be fixed by storing your key in a metal box tho
đ
median egret
I have a W201
No keyless go
but hell yes vroom vroom
This won't be the last vroom it has vroomed
civic girder
How to not make a mess with upside down oil filter
and I went with a nice Wix instead of cheapo Fram this time
dense shard
accesible filters are excellent
civic girder
yes
normal temple
@civic girder a plastic bag and slight of hand
normal temple
that works too ig
indigo coral
my filter is a pain in the ass to get off
civic girder
oof
normal temple
@sand junco he just went straight philosophical on his twitter
stuff like selling all of his houses
tesla stocks too high
etc
slender heath
almost makes me consider hub motors and I hate the idea of the unsprung mass
I may have that backwrds
dense shard
hub motors don't matter that much in the end apparently.
But if you are going for EV... much easier to do AWD.
You don't have to deal with that big throbbing lump of metal in the middle.
slender heath
I design those throbbing lumps of metal so it would be a shame not to have one
dense shard
cool
slender heath
still if I could do something fun like have an electric transmission
at the same time I do really like the model Y
dense shard
They've apparently got some really cool manufacturing techniques.
Tesla is finally delivering on their bragging.
Only took... 3 products worth of time.
slender heath
I live in michigan I think that skewed my odds of becoming some amount car guy
slender heath
sure
dense shard
Though in my case I've stuck to Japanese cars.
slender heath
my car is a forester
something appealing about the symmetry even after they cost cut to a sensible single exhaust
slender heath
đ
dense shard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pOTUw4T9dk oh yay my video finally processed.
I'm still trying to work out the color balance and the such, but w/e.
sand junco
@normal temple holy fuck they plummuted
slender heath
what did?
indigo coral
yeah he's kind of losing his mind a bit xD
stoic ledge
Nice gg
grizzled mulch
magic
tight cypress
hmm renoolt halfshafts broken soon yes
fathom socket
well they were kinda already too high it wasnt gonna be sustainable
possibly trying to lessen the blow of something later also
dense shard
Tesla stock prices were always based on hype
left parrot
tesla had some bad stocks during now
jagged wagon
Alrighty here goes changing my transmission fluid oil in hopes that we can get rid of another round of P000A + P0011 check engine lights.
the joke here about transmission fluid is that some guy on Reddit let his nephew change the "oil" in his Crosstrek... It wasn't running so well a few blocks down the street.
indigo coral
Oof
indigo coral
Looooool
hardy geyser
indigo coral
dark notch
looks like half supra
teal sleet
why does this look like a dodge version of a ferarri ff
civic girder
That's an i8
hearty siren
thanks
indigo coral
I love the i8 
median egret
not the 'I am a tractor that for some reason revs to 6.5k rpm' sound
the design is okay but it lacks a variant
It's changingg
step backk
POOF
The most desirable i8
stoic ledge
Lol not to bad actually
median egret
I need it
it's the only 3cyl bmw I'll drive
but I'll take out the 3cyl
and put in the A45S engine
stoic ledge
A45S 
civic spoke
Throw out the EV package, along with the BMW i3 from the i8, and replace it with the TFG.
stoic ledge
i8 Touring should come with an i8
civic spoke
Sadly a staright eight engine makes little sense today.
Here you go, a car with a straight 8 engine.
Duesenberg Model J
Basically the last car that used an i8 engine.
stoic ledge
I know, but an i8 in an i8 is cool đ
warm sparrow
rugged urchin
should i get a dodge charger or challenger in the future
civic spoke
I probably wouldn't mind supercharging my car, if I managed to find a kit that was affordable.
carmine summit
Chrysler switched from an I8 to a Hemi V8 in 1951
Hudson ended production of their I8s in 1952
Buick's straight 8 engine stayed until 1953
civic spoke
True. I missed those ones.
The package of the V8 is just so much better.
Packard had an inline 8 as well.
viral matrix
fathom socket
i like the whole shooting brake design thing
shame its not as common because reasons
Haha car go broom broom
civic spoke
dense shard
fast enough to fly
viral matrix
indigo coral
LOL
pallid mantle
dense shard
The 10k miata.
carmine summit
Gotta love screwing with Instagram people who think American cars are the best and everything else is garbage
It was a long back and forth with me bringing up good points and him not bringing up good points, I decided I'd had enough for one day and hit him with the old "ok boomer"
tame mesa
Ok boomer
I love my American cars but like
I can admit they ain't the best
Especially now when we basically do not understand that vehicles other than SUVs exist
Why does one person who is living on their own, maybe one other person, need a massive SUV? I just don't get it. Like moving things, yeah. But if it's just a daily...like what the hell.
Everyone needs an SUV here for some reason.
civic girder
Yea, I don't get it either
I want to get a truck, but not to daily or tool around in
I want it for the bed and cargo capacity
Beyond its utilitarian purpose, I see no reason to have a truck or SUV
For daily driver duty: sedan, wagon, or van. For cruising/weekend warrior, sports/muscle car
indigo coral
crossovers aren't as bad as everyone makes them out to be
my RX isn't excessively large
and my mom has an SUV for hauling children
tf do you expect her to drive, an elise?
civic girder
a minivan
civic girder
excuse me, what?
indigo coral
at the very least you can have a modicum of fun in our Explorer
indigo coral
bully for you, they've got their place
I'd take an SUV over a hideous minivan 100% of the time
civic girder
I actually think minivans look better, are more practical, and are better to drive
indigo coral
there's no way a sienna is better to drive than our explorer
not a chance
its fwd for god sakes
civic girder
what about the Astro?
SUV is taller, less economical, and the higher tailgate can make loading and unloading things more difficult
3 row SUVs are also the biggest meme I've ever seen
civic girder
what can you fit in the 3rd row beyond a small child no older than 8 or 9 years old
and obvious answers
indigo coral
I can fit in our 3rd row no problem
civic girder
But minivans? you can easily fit 7 grown adults
indigo coral
i fit in our 3rd row quite comfortably
civic girder
idk, I've never seen a 3 row SUV that could fit a middle schooler, let along an adult
civic girder
besides
what SUV can you get that is mid engined AWD and supercharged?
the answer is none
but there is a minivan that fits that bill
civic girder
The Previa is the best minivan ever, change my mind
indigo coral
our car at least has some pretty decent power
civic girder
they haven't been good since the mid 90s lmao
civic girder
365 is so god damn much, wtf
indigo coral
its decent
a bit slower than the Taurus cause its heavy
the taurus has the same ecoboost v6 and it hauls arse
civic girder
imagine thinking 365hp is only "decent"
indigo coral
ngl the taurus is surprisingly athletic in corners for being a ford taurus
yay for sport packages i guess
indigo coral
its nice
still feels brand new
(cause it practically is)
just barely crossed 30k miles
and it's a 2013
civic girder
you can make any car feel brand new by maintaining it and caring for it
indigo coral
though in fairness it doesn't feel more than two decades old either
flint sable
Last S351 ever made, number 49 signed by Steve Saleen
normal temple
stoic ledge
đ
flint sable
Straight outta 2003
flint sable
@carmine summit that is quite epic
stoic ledge
Blank buttons
verbal sonnet
well, i see the desperate times coming, so i'm thinking about desperate measures.
Is there any foam or material (solid-ish) that technically can replace air in the tire? Main goal is to have the pack of old af tires last for about i'd say 150km of rough surface at speeds close to 70-80kph. The suspension strain doesnt concern me too much as it'll be done on Lada Riva or Ford Sierra, i.e. the disposable car
i understand the dangers of large unsuspended mass, but do not give a fuck. Big potholes and big rocks are not expected. But what is axpected are the rocks small enough to be unnoticed and sharp enough to cut the tire
stoic ledge
Nissan pulling back from Europe đ Other sources stating they'll keep the Qashqai (Rogue Sport) and Juke, and even the Leaf will go: EV's will only be sold under the Renault nameplate in Europe
@verbal sonnet the stuff they use in fix-a-flat kits?
That expands to some kind of foam and is rated for speeds up to 80km/h
verbal sonnet
Is it sold in bottles big enough to fill a whole 15-inch wheel?
stoic ledge
I think 1 bottle is for 1 wheel, so it should work (?)
Although when the tire is wripped it won't don anything good
dense shard
Fix-a-flat isn't a great idea.
A tire patch kit and an air compressor will serve you better.
verbal sonnet
Goal is not to repair. Goal is to make the tires unflattable for 150-200km
That's it
dense shard
You can do that just as safety with a patch kit.
fix-a-flat is usually not recommended to use with TPMS stuff.
Then again automakers shouldn't be removing the spare from the car in the first place.
stoic ledge
Lets buy a practical Volvo and fill the trunk/boot with speakers
stoic ledge
Very useful ^^
indigo coral
my car just has a full alloy spare