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indigo coral
dense shard
when someone disses Toyota Corolla to your face
fathom socket
what you guys think of da whip?
fathom socket
that shit is sick af
thin oyster
fleet gust
It's fine
wheat hatch
Looks fine to me
iron swan
Yeah
wheat hatch
solemn atlas
stoic ledge
^ I hope they'll make it, 400hp 
Although they should also offer the Hybrid4 drivetrain with 300hp, not only the Hybrid (225)
bitter compass
tbh the new Peugeots are pretty pretty at front
pulsar thistle
so uhm
just wanna shoutout that tractor, its swedish and from my island (Gotland)
not russian, so yall dont get any misconseptions from the video name
And he passed away in 2017 peacefully in his home
volvo 940 engine and 240 trans if yall are curious
iron swan
Oof
?
civic girder
ye olden parking lot oil change
indigo coral
oof I'd have just waited til I got home
civic girder
He might live at an appartment
indigo coral
oh true
civic girder
in which case, most likely has to do parking lot changes
silk finch
I am home lol
civic girder
I might redo the compression test on the rear rotor in the RX-7 later. I noticed when playing back my video in slow mo, that the psi looked kinda low. But I have zero issues hot starting.
I don't think I purged the housings before I tested, so that very well could be affecting my results
indigo coral
idk if my engine is messed up
civic girder
I'm going to compression test the Prius when it gets to 105k miles
we'll see what its at, hopefully the cylinder with shit in it is still pretty close to spec
indigo coral
didn't you drop the motor and do HG?
stoic ledge
https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/ford-modneo-estate-rt-2015-11.jpg?itok=r6LTI6ta
I prefer the European Fusion/Mondeo gauge cluster tho (although the Hybrid gets the US cluster)
stoic ledge
AH that looks 100% like the EU Mondeo cluster
stoic ledge
Probably ez since it can come from the factory with the MKZ cluster xD
stoic ledge
Much better than the US Fusion standard gauge cluster
^ yeah true, but I also meant it since European Fusions got it as standard
stoic ledge
Yes
silk finch
lol
stoic ledge
π
silk finch
I want to trade my fusion in for a sport
stoic ledge
Sport has a 2.7 EcoBoost iirc , or am I mistaken?
silk finch
2.7TT
stoic ledge
stoic ledge
That or the European 1.0 EcoBoost π€
Difficult decision
Yeah that Camaro driver can't launch lol
indigo coral
Shorter wires = less loss
civic girder
@indigo coral
No. HG hasn't been done yet. The results of the compression test will tell me how soon I should get it done
normal temple
Inb4 cylinders 2 and 3 have 0 comp
indigo coral
oof
civic girder
It'd be 1 and 2 or just 2
2 was the one with the fucked spark plug, but it's possible one chunk hopped into 1 when I was blowing the shit out of 2
I don't think there's any in 1, but there's definitely some in 2
stoic ledge
@eager kite don't get me wrong, but all my wiring looks like that
stoic ledge
@civic girder yes
civic girder
lmao
I'd say a good 70% of my RX-7 has sleeving on the wiring
and the Prius is 100% sleeved
stoic ledge
@eager kite All wires exposed to the elements/visible/reachable from the underside, yes
civic girder
like, when a cheapo 80s sports car has sleeved wiring, then any modern car without sleeved wiring is just lazy
For the RX-7, pretty much all of the engine bay wiring is sleeved along with anything that might also be exposed to the elements in other areas
most of the internal wiring isn't fully sleeved, but its mostly covered up by carpet and panels anyways
stoic ledge
Yeah true, that's basically how it is on every modern car: outside fully sleeved, inside covered up by carpet/panels/...
civic girder
I think the main chassis harness is sleeved, but most of the internal wiring that comes off that harness is not sleeved. If a branching off wire has to go outside, then it will be sleeved on the outside.
fathom socket
Just changed the spark plugs on my grandfather's 1999 Buick Regal GS
It's a a transversely mounted V6, so you have to take the front engine mounts off and winch the whole engine forward about 8 inches
civic spoke
Do they go zap-zoop now?
fathom socket
Yes
The car runs excellently
It didn't help that the plug boots were glued to the plugs
Well...
It's my father's car now
My grandfather passed away in September
But we will always call it "Grandpa's car"
The car is really clean too
It has 150,000 miles, but it was garage kept
So there's basically no scratches
And the clear coat is in good condition
It's the supercharged version of the 3.8l V6, so it's fast and reliable
civic spoke
Can we talk about how stupid e-dipsticks are?
Friend actually knows how to check his oil now.
normal temple
Merc's E-dipstick is annoying cause it requires the car to be stone cold
So when I do an oil change and start the engine to allow the oil to circulate
I can't check the oil level until I wait 30 mins
civic spoke
That's stupid.
So you basically do the oil change with the normal requirement that the engine takes.
And then you have to top it off in the morning.
normal temple
Basically
civic spoke
It's annoying to check the oil level in my truck as well.
normal temple
So it wants 8 quarts, so I add 7.5 then start the engine
the wait for like an hour
then check the level and add more
civic spoke
Since it wants the truck to be brought up to operating temp, and then stand for like an hour.
normal temple
that's pretty bad too
BMW's E dipstick just requires you to be on flat ground and for the engine to be warm and on
See that's fine
civic spoke
My car just wants me to be on flat ground, and to have been off for like 5 minutes.
civic spoke
You know, a normal dipstick.
civic spoke
So I just check my oil with every/every other fuel up.
So I check my oil level maybe 3 times a month.
normal temple
Yup, I do mine every week
civic spoke
My dipstick is hovering around the halfway point right now.
normal temple
Ah, BMW dipstick lines indicate a one quart difference
idk what that is in liters lol
civic spoke
Between min and max is 1 liter.
normal temple
Yup
civic spoke
normal temple
How's your E46 going?
civic spoke
Running alright. Will probably switch to summer tires next weekend.
Depending on how the temps are.
normal temple
ah nice
civic spoke
Can't wait to have firmer sidewalls.
normal temple
I should've gotten all my AC parts ready to go to do the conversion
ugh, oh well
Too poor currently anyways
civic spoke
My current summer tires are a bit tired. But they are still legal.
Will probably run them for this season, and then change them.
civic spoke
Mine are also fine. But I just don't like running on old tires.
normal temple
fair
civic spoke
Example. My old winter tires had plenty of thread left.
But they were legit 10 years old.
normal temple
Mine were the same but the tread cracked
from being stored outside in the summer heat
π€
civic spoke
Yeah - That's bad.
I'm thinking of getting a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4 for my next set of tires.
civic spoke
Would probably cost me $500 to replace the four corners.
My summer tires are currently Michelin Primacy
normal temple
Meaty
civic spoke
The X5 has some thicc tires.
normal temple
thicc
normal temple
That's a W209
civic spoke
TIL - The way that they filmed the Bugatti Chiron 0-400-0 km/h run was with another Chiron.
civic spoke
spark apex
Wait a second, does that car have permission to drive on non-private-roads?
Wat is dat at de back?
civic spoke
@spark apex Camera and mount for when they filmed the 0-400-0 km/h run.
The driving shot in this video was filmed by the Chiron above. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkkV1vLHUvQ
civic spoke
I just realized that the 0-400-0 km/h record that Koenigsegg has is a solid 10 second faster than what Bugatti did with the Chiron.
fathom socket
Anyone want me to get my friends car dirty? Lol
Yeah I'm waiting for Koenigsegg 300mph one :/
stoic ledge
π Dutch plates π
median egret
@stoic ledge what?
carmine summit
he's Dutch
stoic ledge
@median egret that ^
oblique cloak
median egret
LTT Dutch Car Meet when
stoic ledge
After corona xD
normal temple
@fathom socket bold move with the unprotected oil cooler
civic girder
pop ups win
magic arrow
dense shard
I just realized.
For all of Honda's "radical move away from industry norms."
Their HVAC controls remain tied to the main screen.
For example in Toyota. There is a separate screen of sorts for the HVAC controls. Nothing will show up in nav screen.
civic spoke
I hate having HVAC on a screen. I want buttons or dials.
dense shard
It's not just the issue of buttons or dials.
The entire interface should be independent of the infotainment.
civic spoke
Yeah
civic spoke
I never really cared for multi-zone climate control.
dense shard
Here both knobs are for temperature on either side.
Single zone... other knob is for fan speed.
imo, preferable.
Otherwise... fan control isn't perfect.
cripes, one sec. Let me edit my pale af foot out
civic spoke
It's nice that some cars still have physical buttons/knobs for the climate control.
dense shard
My favorite set up remains the 3 knob HVAC.
speed, position, and temp
It's truly eyes off.
My setup is alright in the fact it's automatic. So I just twist a knob and everything goes from there... so yay?
dense shard
It's what a lot of cars used to do.
Honda, Ford, Toyota...
https://cars.usnews.com/static/images/Auto/izmo/i84883042/2019_toyota_corolla_tempcontrol.jpg okay... this actually also works.
Not knobs, but still eyes off.
civic spoke
I drove a bunch on a road that is known as an enthusiast driver's road with the truck. Was pretty fun.
civic spoke
That's the 'slow' speed section, the one on the East.
If you take read 257 to the West, then that's the high speed section
It's all 60/70 km/h roads.
prime chasm
Does the Model 3 have 12v socket? (a.k.a cigarette thing)
dense shard
yes
fleet gust
@dense shard https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUp_l3AJb1Zs&psig=AOvVaw2eyvV-zb5REpWXig8-A4Ax&ust=1586156970575000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCICQs6jd0OgCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAS
My Trucks HVAC Controls
I never have to look at them, just set everything by feel
civic spoke
This is what mine looks like.
normal temple
https://youtu.be/vadTPetmTlc mine makes cool noises
stoic ledge
Oof xD
I never understoof those HVAC controls were the AC control is on the position switch... Like at norm AC, what vents is it using? Idk
stoic ledge
And when I want AC on my feet? Or windows only, I just can't?
normal temple
basically
indigo coral
I don't mind just the temperature display being on the screen as long as there's a hard dial to change it
dense shard
MAX AC is basically recirc with AC.
civic girder
The RX-7's HVAC controls are pretty easy to memorize
bottom slider: left for cold, right for hot
top slider: most of those settings don't do anything different from each other, somethings broke
and the dial for changing speed and turning off is also the a/c engage switch
indigo coral
mine's easy
civic girder
the HVAC controls on the Prius are aids
hit the climate button and then fat finger buttons and hope the shitty touchscreen took the input
stoic ledge
Corsa is manual (both transmission as HVAC xD), so very easy π
Left dial: temp
Middle dial: speed
Right dial: position
Left-left button: AC
Left-right button: recirculation
Right button: rear window defroster/heated mirrors
civic girder
stoic ledge
Tape deck
stoic ledge
Couldn't agree more
civic girder
its all part of the experience to have tapes and not be able to see the stereo's display in the sun
and my god, its glorious to have all the speakers hooked up
instead of cranking the volume because you only have rear speakers its balanced and stereo
and audible over π ±οΈ rap
stoic ledge
π ±οΈraaaaap
dense shard
https://www.netcarshow.com/Toyota-Corolla_Sedan-2020-1280-4f.jpg I would have preferred this tbh.
But dual zone is a nifty feature.
stoic ledge
Should have gotten a cheaper Corolla
stoic ledge
@indigo coral how old is it
indigo coral
Like 6 years old lol
civic girder
oof
stoic ledge
That's an acceptable age for a battery
barren shale
my old BMW had a battery that was 10 years old. Still going strong when I gave the car to my brother
Guy said I need a new one when he looked the car over for an inspection. I asked why and he said because it was old
I asked if it was still producing the right voltage and he said yeah so I told him I didn't need a new one
fathom socket
My battery is 7 years old
Haha!
I have two of them
One of them is a helper battery
The main battery is less than a year old
Did I mention that it has the dual alternator package too?
My truck will literally jump a car that's battery is at 7 volts instantly
fathom socket
bitter compass
looks confused at the speedlimit sign
whats that π
fathom socket
It's a new scoreboard for the road
I have the record on my highway at 178 MPH
I sent this to my friend who's obsessed with BMW's
jagged coyote
fathom socket
I drove my Camaro yesterday with drag slicks on
It was rainy
And it was absolute hell
jagged coyote
that's gonna be a nope for me on that dog
fallow plover
@fathom socket Well its true, but BMW's is fixable untill like 2009ish unlike most other cars π
normal temple
My BMW has been good
fallow plover
The only "issue" I had on my car that needed to be fixed was my radiator had blown up, it was slightly round instead of squared. Other than that its been holding up just fine in my ownership.
civic girder
the only issue's I've had on the RX-7 have stemmed from the fact that the previous owner left it under a tree for 15 years
and the only issues I've had on the Prius have been due to operator error/shit breaking and making things worse in the process of fixing
dense shard
No issues with my Toyota excluding that oil change from hell.
Also because it is brand new.
(It damn well better not have any problems.)
dense shard
Otherwise I'm buying a mid 90s Dodge Ram with a Cummins and calling it a day.
indigo coral
almost 2 years now and the only work we've had to do is a valve cover gasket
dense shard
No electronics, no tech, no break.
Okay... it is my dream to buy one of those unironically. I love the idea of having two vehicles that are complete opposites.
dense shard
One is a teched out hatchback compact, the other is a bigass no tech work truck.
indigo coral
She bought it new in '97
dense shard
nice!
Idea with the old Ram diesels is a generation or two... they were totally analog. Mechanical injectors.
indigo coral
My grandpa has a 2001 cummins that's been sitting for a long time
we occasionally go turn it on and let it run for a bit
dense shard
... that's actually very close to what I'd want.
dense shard
Well I'm too poor to even try to pretend to make an offer.
indigo coral
it's got some issues, soem dents in the tailgate and stuff due to a situation in the past
but mechanically its brand new
(besides flat spotted tires)
dense shard
This would be a restoration job I'd say. The ones that survive aren't in great shape.
indigo coral
i bet those tires are hella screwed up
the seats are covered and brand new underneath, dash covered etc, its been sitting inside so its not full of mold or whatever
its not been sitting outside
so yeah it'd be preetty easy to restore I'd imagine
no rust
dense shard
That truck sounds like a legit gem.
If I was searching for something like this now... I'd 100% compromise and get it in automatic.
indigo coral
yeah its auto
dense shard
Doesn't even matter tbh.
indigo coral
I mean it's a pickup truck not a sports car
dense shard
Well idea would be to stick to the theme of no tech simplicity.
indigo coral
its a durable auto, isn't it?
dense shard
From what I've heard. yes
The people who have the million mile Rams do rebuild their transmissions every so often.
Like... every 350k or something stupid long.
indigo coral
yeah 350k isn't bad
dense shard
90s truck that's being used as such? 100% fair.
dense shard
I imagine you can DIY it.
civic girder
Yea, that's why carbs are the best
they don't break
they can get dirty and clogged like injectors, but you just get a rebuild kit and throw that bitch on there
if your injectors get clogged to shit, then you're basically fucked
stoic ledge
There are ways to clean injectors
dense shard
yes
Just buy the appropriate fuel injector cleaner and you are set.
If it is worse, there are services that will clean them for you.
But port injectors are also fairly cheap to replace.
wanton heath
Stupid question: how easy is it to tune electric steering? I am wondering if it is easily possible to reduce assist from the motor to improve road feedback?
dense shard
It depends on the car.
You might have more luck changing out the steering bushings or new tires.
wanton heath
Well those aren't the problem I know for sure; I even run 18's in the summer
I just feel the steering is too soft for my taste
dense shard
hmmmm, I personally have never heard of anyone trying to retune their steering assist.
And changing the assist level might not give you more feedback or feel.
Modern steering is by nature more "refined" or rather isolated. It's what the consumer wanted, and it is what they got.
You can try to replace the steering rack mounting points with harder rubber?
wanton heath
I don't want to feel the vibration
just if the road curvature changes I want to feel it
My wife's lancer is amazing for that as it is still hydraulic
dense shard
I don't think that will be possible.
wanton heath
Oh well
dense shard
Like... I could be wrong. Worth asking the specific car community, but I haven't heard of this being a common thing anywhere.
civic girder
electric steering isn't connected to the steering rack afaik
I think there's some kind of sensor at the end of the steering column that tells the motor how much to turn the wheels
If you want to "feel" the road, get hydraulic power steering.
Or if you want to feel the real deal, get manual steering
normal temple
Electric steering is still connected to the rack
just an electric motor is assisting it instead of a pump
Then you have Alfa that just has steer by wire with no connection π€
indigo coral
manual steering is kinda dangerous though isn't it?
normal temple
Uh oh
Manual steering feels the same as hydraulic when driving
Its just heavy af when you get into slow speed situations
indigo coral
Hey I got both of mine too
civic girder
Manual isn't dangerous, just very stiff at low speeds.
And when stationary, its like trying to turn the wheel in a car with hydro steering when the car is off
I think manual steering is really nice, it has more feedback and even at speed its a bit harder to turn
that slightly harder makes it feel like you're in control
you can feel the car's grip
normal temple
I would totally run a manual rack if I didn't have to share the car with my family
They would all complain lmao
civic spoke
civic girder
Yea, even though the Prius probably has similar handling limits to the RX-7, the hydraulic steering in the Prius makes it feel lame and boring
like, Prius is already pretty limp in terms of performance, but with a manual rack I'm sure cornering would actually be pretty fun
dense shard
fathom socket
I'll never understand Scotty
dense shard
good
fathom socket
In one video he says that the Chevy LS is the worst
dense shard
Understanding him makes me worried for that person's state of mind.
fathom socket
About half a year later he makes a video talking about how the C6 Corvette is a really good buy and how the LS V8 is a really good engine
stoic ledge
> Scotty
No thnx
civic girder
yea, i'll pass
indigo coral
He's a crackpot mechanic with antiquated views
carmine summit
He's a boomer who pretends to be a mechanic
indigo coral
Just a complete idiot
carmine summit
He thinks diesels are unreliable
Just in general
My dad's 2002 Jetta TDI has 450k km on it and runs perfectly, burns no oil and gets like 4.8l/100km
indigo coral
He also thinks anything fast/fun is bad. Yes, a car like the G70 would he expensive to maintain, but it's also a hell of a lot more fun than a 90s Camry
carmine summit
I would want to see his reaction to the engine I want to build for my car
First of all, it's German. He wouldn't like that. He also wouldn't like the fact that I'm planning to put a turbo on it. Not to mention it's gonna have a tune.
stoic ledge
Ah
carmine summit
I plan to get an OBD1 ABA and put a T3 turbo on it with a chip from Black Forest Industries
stoic ledge
That's a Mk3 isn't it?
carmine summit
Yep
stoic ledge
75hp
carmine summit
90 actually
It's 90 crank from the factory but it's probably like 65 whp lol
My goal is somewhere around 220 whp
stoic ledge
OOF
stoic ledge
Classic
fathom socket
theres always a bad batch somewhere
id hope that >95% only have minor issues or no issues at all
civic girder
it was a lot lower percentage than that when they fist came around
dense shard
Idea is the consumers get perfect cars 100% of the time.
Factory inspection, dealer inspection...
Badly aligned panels shouldn't make it past the dealer never mind the factory where the car is assembled.
indigo coral
every single automaker delivers shitty cars sometimes, except for maybe rolls royce and stuff, but tesla is the worst in terms of initial quality
body lines, shoddy interior work, etc
dense shard
When it happens. The communities and customer are far less forgiving.
indigo coral
And at this point tesla can't use the "new automaker" excuse
they're not new anymore
For when they were struggling in 2012/13 with quality on the Model S, that was a fair argument. Now they can't use that anymore.
civic girder
Mazda rotaries were high quality at the time
but they got a bad rap because the owners were not necessarily of the same quality
fathom socket
There is so many ways I can go with that
pearl tiger
Any guy with knowledge here, caring to help me with an little issue?
stoic ledge
Best way to get help is by posting the question, people who can help will answer π
pearl tiger
So im pretty new to cars and its about my headlights.. dunno if thats a feature but currently if i turn on my lowbeams, my right headlights is lowbeam but my left light has only parking light.. if i enable highbeam, both light up normally
stoic ledge
No, that's not normal
Your left low beam light is probably broken
Low beam and high beam are different bulbs
stoic ledge
Ah it's H4
Well probably one string/wire/... In it broke
Ah filament, that's the word I was looking for
pearl tiger
Hm. I guess time to change the bulb
stoic ledge
Good luck have fun π
fathom socket
if i replace my old headlight bulbs with newer led ones will the brightness/visibility improve that much?
stoic ledge
In most cases: pls don't. LEDs in reflector halogen headlights cause for a lot of distortion, dazzling oncoming drivers
carmine summit
It's labeled/marketed as a 6.3l but it's actually a 6.2l
It's an homage to the 300 SEL 6.3
dense shard
GG Mercedes
lethal garnet
lol
i miss my 2000 SLK230
tbf i never got to drive it because we got rid of it 2 days before i got my license but the car was my childhood
bro now iβm on a hunt to find one with our old colour but i canβt find one
i miss the thing
civic spoke
Basically everyone rounds up for volume.
But rounting up 1.14 to 1.2 is cheating.
My engine is 2.2L (Actually 2,171 cc)
dense shard
Much in the same way the old Mustang 5.0s were just 4.9s.
stoic ledge
Nothing new, I've also seen 1.2's being badges as 1.3, 1.9's as 2.0 and what not
Tbh rounding off isn't that hard
dense shard
The 5.0 was actually 4945CC.
stoic ledge
But bigger is better I suppose
dense shard
You can't round up less than half.
You round to the nearest zero... just just up.
Otherwise I can totally drink a gallon of milk... rounded up from .3 gallons.
dense shard
Yeah, too bad the Mustang fell short of even that.
indigo coral
lexus says mines 3 litres but I bet its like 1.3 its slow
dense shard
I'm not sure why automakers fuck around with displacements.
indigo coral
its a slow motor
dense shard
If anything they should be under reporting.
"This is a 2.0L for tax reasons. Please ignore the 3 liters of displacement."
fathom socket
https://youtu.be/moiPUk3dZAY β₯οΈ
indigo coral
This is a 1.0l 3cylinder. Ignore the other 7 litres and 7 cylinders in my Viper.
dense shard
And that's usually why all 2.0L cars are just under 2000cc.
So the pedants in the government won't nail you to a cross of tax.
indigo coral
mines apparently 2,994 cc
stoic ledge
I know xD
fathom socket
Did the picture of the car I send this morning started this conversation π
My bad if it did lol
dense shard
oh Mercedes is at least honest about their engine displacement.
indigo coral
6.3 vs 6.2
stoic ledge
No the pic you posted the afternoon
indigo coral
π
stoic ledge
xD
stoic ledge
No the label says 6.3
dense shard
oh, that's stupid and they're lying.
Someone should take em to court over false advertising.
It worked for the guy suing the tuna industry.
dense shard
Class action over 100cc
pearl tiger
1,4 liter here with 1391 π
stoic ledge
What car
pearl tiger
well is my first car tho.. π next one will be Audi A4 B5 Limo from around 2000/2001 with 1,6L and 101hp
stoic ledge
I've had my first car for nearly 4 years now
pearl tiger
im 24 now and i made my license last year 31.10 π
since then i got my trusty shitbox π
stoic ledge
Oof xD
pearl tiger
never had the urge to do license tho
pearl tiger
yeah bus and train for me
also i admire cars but too scared to drive faster or expensive cars
but still the old Audi Quattro or a R32/R34 or S15 are my dream cars
stoic ledge
Public transport, haven't used it in 5 years
pearl tiger
yeah now in this covid times its even more crap to use publics
dense shard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6ekfGd-PZs here's a fun one.
dense shard
Worked in Japan... lived in the middle of nowhere. I needed a car.
pubtrans in the boonies was not great.
dense shard
But yeah... without a car. Getting to work took 3 hours.
With a car... 2 hours or less.
Also it would have cost me something like 15 dollars a day round trip.
civic girder
Bleeding brakes is the worst thing ever
normal temple
Eh
civic girder
I bled each wheel like 3 or 4 times
and then when the engine was running, the pedal was ultra soft
like, foot on the floor and you might be able to stop while travelling at walking speed of the average human, soft
civic girder
started in the back
dense shard
Brakes in the Prius?
normal temple
nani
civic girder
and then front left
dense shard
hold up
civic girder
No, RX-7 brakes
dense shard
ah
normal temple
Is your master cylinder blown?
dense shard
I was about to panic. How are both rear brakes on the same circuit.
civic girder
Brand new master cylinder
normal temple
Did you bench bleed it
normal temple
You introduced a shit load of air into the line then
dense shard
Bleed it outside the car.
civic girder
oof
normal temple
That's why the pedal is soft
dense shard
yeah, time to bleed some more.
normal temple
Gonna need to bleed a lot of fluid through the lines again
civic girder
I guess I'll just bleed each wheel like 18 more times then
dense shard
Well... look at it like this.
civic girder
I'll do it tomorrow
normal temple
Do you have ABS?
civic girder
ABS on an early 80s carbureted car?
normal temple
Yes
civic girder
Hell no
normal temple
My E30 has ABS lol
civic girder
what year is the E30 tho
normal temple
They came with ABS in 86
dense shard
IF Eastman is really cold. Him shivering on the brake has the same effect.
normal temple
Mines an 89
civic girder
yea, I don't think ABS was a thing on mainstream production cars until 86
normal temple
fair
dense shard
Wasn't required till 2012.
civic girder
Pretty sure the FC has ABS, but the FB has just regular power brakes
normal temple
Yeah, basically what you did while bleeding was push a bunch of air into the lines because the master cylinder was dry
civic girder
oof
normal temple
You bleed it on the bench so its full so that doesn't happen
civic girder
Well, next time I'll do that
normal temple
No problem though, you'll just need to bleed a fuck ton of fluid into it
civic girder
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
normal temple
I made the same mistake on my E30, and got air into the ABS pump
civic girder
yikes
normal temple
So I had to do a couple hard stops with no brakes so I can get the air out of the ABS
Then I could bleed it a shitload normally
civic girder
oof
normal temple
Luckily you don't have ABS lmao
civic girder
Yea, all I have is a splitter t send fluid to the passenger side and to the rear
and the rear is weird
the chassis line goes into the driver's side wheel cylinder, and then out and across the live axle into the passenger wheel cylinder
and you bleed the rear off the passenger side
normal temple
Ahhh yes, early 80s tech
civic girder
yep, its kinda nice in a way
normal temple
Kinda, but I would feel better if its all seperate still
civic girder
I don't have jackstands, or anything, so I basically have to lift each wheel and take the wheel off
so one less wheel to take off is π
normal temple
I jacked up the corner and did it under the car
civic girder
but if I could get to the bleeders without taking the wheel off, that would be nice
normal temple
Turned the wheels up front for access to those bleeders
civic girder
the rear drum I might still have to take the wheel off, but the fronts I probably don't have to
shit, you're a genious
why didn't I think to turn the wheels
dense shard
heh
civic girder
they're calipers, so the bleeder is dumb easy to access
dense shard
Times saved.
civic girder
Even when I eventually buy a brand new car, I'm gonna do maintenance myself
if something fucks itself up or there's a recall then I'll begrudgingly take it to the dealer
normal temple
We let the dealer service the X5 within the warranty period
civic girder
It'll depend on what I end up buying
If Mazda somehow decides to release another rotary car, you know I'll get one, and the dealer isn't gonna touch it with a 50 ft pole
normal temple
Mmmmm
dense shard
MX-30 will have a rotary range extender?
I can't imagine Mazda having the financial strength to pull of a new niche car.
civic girder
I've heard that the MX-30 will have rotary range extender
but I've also heard that the "MX-30" will actually be called the RX-7 and be a sport SUV with their new inline 6
So its up in the air
I hope its gonna be MX-30 with rotary
The perfect way to combine good mpg with rotary and daily
indigo coral
Mazda is struggling kinda
civic girder
wot
I see more new Mazdas than damn near anything else
about the only car that can match the amount of new Mazdas I see is the Civic
dense shard
I see very few Mazdas in my area.
More than enough CX-5s, but CX-30s are rare.
And very few Mazda 3s.
civic girder
I see dozens of new models and dozens of older models too
They are doing very well in my area
helped by the fact that there's two local Mazda dealers
There's only one local Toyota dealer, and its kinda far
One of the Mazda dealers is owned by a dude who also runs a Honda and Kia dealership
So Hondas and Kias do fairly well too
Mopars sell pretty poorly despite there being a pretty good dealership network locally
Subaru also has been doing meh
they have a nice local dealership that moved in after Saturn shit the bed
I still remember going to the pool at the Rec Center that was next to the Saturn dealership. On the way into the Rec Center parking lot, you just saw lines upon lines of brand new Saturns and a few crappy used cars. Now the lot is empty as fuck, the Subaru dealership doesn't carry that many cars.
sudden ocean
dense shard
Hopefully they can get around to aligning the panels by then.
It'll look pretty nasty otherwise.
dense shard
oof
fathom socket
That was funny
Or the time that the first Surface was being released, and the first one froze up on the stage
soft ether
stoic ledge
@civic girder Mazda did already confirm there's a rotary engine coming as range extender for the MX-30 π
viral matrix
stoic ledge
wheat hatch
civic spoke
Last time I drove a Scania was last year.
What we had for school.
Oof, a bit blurry.
But the only picture of the Volvo steering wheel I have that I know of.
civic girder
@stoic ledge
Source?
dense shard
https://www.slashgear.com/mazda-mx-30-ev-is-reviving-the-rotary-engine-as-a-power-generator-08615930/ @civic girder not 100% yet apparently.
The way the journos have been going about it... it's all but confirmed.
civic girder
Yea, I didn't think it was 100% yet. I know I saw an article about an "RX-7 sport SUV" and they used pictures of the MX-30
This article talks like its 100% fact
I can't read apparently
dense shard
RX-7 Sport SUV probably to get more clicks.
civic girder
it was an april fools
dense shard
Hard to tell these days.
civic girder
Yea, I couldn't tell until after I re-read the article and saw the bottom
I think I first read it on mobile, so there was probably an ad hiding it from me
Knowing that was a joke makes me happy lol
dense shard
That's assuming the MX-30 will even make it to the US.
And make it to the US with a REX.
stoic ledge
True
dense shard
okay... even then I remember the BMW i3 came to the US in a neutered form.
civic girder
I'll be sad and depressed if we don't get the REX
dense shard
You had to reflash the ECU with a Euro spec one to get the performance.
dense shard
Range extender would actually do something in the EDM version.
USDM was just there to maintain the battery charge and it was speed limited to 60 mph I think.
civic girder
iirc the US i3 REX only got you like 40 miles of range
and the total range was less than 100 miles
from what I've seen so far, the MX-30 REX will have like 200 miles of range
140 EV range, and then knowing the rotary, they can probably get at least 60 miles
god damn I need to get a house so I can get 240V
jagged coyote
A clean car is a happy car, even if I don't get to drive it bccs of the current events
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/453538648097423361/697830536315404338/IMG_20200409_165922__01.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/453538648097423361/697830534922895360/IMG_20200409_165933__01.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/453538648097423361/697830533589237770/IMG_20200409_165942.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/453538648097423361/697830517525053470/IMG_20200409_170004__01.jpg
dense shard
very clean
stoic ledge
civic girder
Yea, USPS is pretty slow rn due to the pandemic
But I'm not complaining since they're still actually shipping stuff
I think my door seals come today
but even if they do, I don't think I'll wash just yet. Especially considering that the RX-7 barely moves
jagged coyote
what do you guys use to get rid of tree sap, bcs the roof (which i obviously didn't show you) is full of black dots, had some luck getting rid of some of them but it was too much effort and i'm pretty sure there is something for it
civic girder
clay bar?
stoic ledge
Just some Turtle Wax Shampoo gets rid of everything I've ever had on it xD
jagged coyote
i imagine you need a special nozzle for that?
civic girder
I just put turtle wax with water in a bucket, get my sponge, and get to work
jagged coyote
this stuff any good then?
https://www.amazon.fr/Turtle-Wax-Streak-Shampooing-Voiture/dp/B01D8T8FQ0?ref_=ast_bbp_dp
oof didn't see the shipping, i think i'll wait bcs lockdown still on, president talking monday so don't know what he'll say
stoic ledge
OOF xD
tame mesa
Someone thought it would be an epic prank XD to pour what looks like powder bleach onto my car in the middle of the night.
civic girder
wtf
tame mesa
All over the front end. Clear coat is gone and the paint looks oxidized
civic girder
Fuck, that's bad
tame mesa
civic girder
Overnight paint oxidization....that'd have to be some strong stuff
tame mesa
It was literally a bukakke of this shit all over my front end
And it was clearly tossed from a bucket.
Completely fucking caked on
civic girder
You should try and keep a lookout from any suspicious vehicles that might stop by to see if their "prank" worked. And if a car does kinda look sus, try and get the plate and report it to the police.
tame mesa
I could, but I'm in an alleyway, and can't see where my car os parked.
I filed an insurance claim.
civic girder
Yea, that's all you can do then I guess
tame mesa
I was going to get fresh paint soon anyways, because it was already bad, but this is fucked.
civic girder
Hopefully the insurance can get the paint fixed. Don't want your car to rust
jagged coyote
get the insurance to pay for the whole paint 
stoic ledge
YIKES
tame mesa
I have good insurance, thank fuck. Gonna be a $500 deductible
Clear coat is more gone than when dad went to get milk
dense shard
oof
At least it's only a 500 dollar deductible. How much do you pay per 6 months out of curiosity?
tame mesa
Not much. Like 850 or something
Yeah 140 x 6 that seems about right
So it's not that expensive thank fuck
dense shard
More than I pay. π€
So that means you are younger? lol
I wonder if there's any people with a referral scheme. Bunch of people refer each other to insurance companies to get some cash back.
indigo coral
damn I wish mine was 850/6mo
tame mesa
Yeah, I feel almost lucky. My old insurance company charged me a lot more than that and I was just like yeah screw this I'm out
Was paying over $250 a month for a 2020 4 door Sedan
Like what the fuck is that
2010**** model year
I feel like I was personally targeted because you do sort of have to go out of your way to go into my alleyway, then into the driveway.
This can't just be a coincidence. This had to have been targeted.
MUCH LIKE OUR SPONSOR SQUARES-
fathom socket
uk prices are a whole lot worse from what ive seen
at least when youre young
anything with an engine bigger than 1.2 is at least 2k no matter how much power u get
i know a 1.8l tdci ford focus from 06 was 4.5k per year for a young lad
dense shard
Glad you managed to get your prices down @tame mesa
High insurance prices are always an oof... especially for self paying students.
And for people under 25.
And for people with newer cars.
indigo coral
Old car and no issues on my record so far... We asked for a lower rate and they told us to get bent
dense shard
Take their advice. Shop around.
tame mesa
Damn that 2700/6 is brutal
dense shard
I'm sitting pretty at 650/6
I imagine the Corolla nets me a discount.
"safe slow driver discount"
civic girder
I should actually check and see if my rates have gone up. I was in an accident afterall
tame mesa
That new manual corolla tho
I saw an ad for that and I was like
Huh?
Those exist? In America?
This is what the paint usually looks like.
Although to be fair they didn't hit the back with their chemical solution so that still looks fine
Gotta get rid of those steelies, man.
indigo coral
i'd be ticked if someone messed up the paint on my RX
it would be damn hard to find matching paint for it
given how few of them were produced in that colour
tame mesa
Yeah I'd be right fucked off
civic girder
I still wonder if I'll be able to get my RX-7 repainted in the factory color
dawn python
that seems wicked high, i pay $700 for 6 months on my 2010 honda fit and im 18
indigo coral
im very glad you got the white interior
dense shard
Beats all black.
Back in the early 2000s everyone liked the crap on all black interiors by calling them cheap and cut rate.
Now black is fancy and classy.
indigo coral
if I got to pick the interior of my future G70, I'd get black with gray piping/stitching
and aluminum accents
dense shard
I'd like to replace the silver accents in my car with metal.
The door handles feel like they belong in a 15,000 dollar car.
Not horrible, but perhaps Toyota could have tried harder?
My Accord had nice quality door handles. Metal I think. Yes. I have been thinking about that. Social distancing is driving me slightly mad. As is being unemployed.
tame mesa
@dense shard Holy shit how does it drive
dense shard
Pretty good. I won't say it's a hot hatch. It's more comfy than sporty, but honestly it does the twisties well enough for me.
Driving relaxed benefits you here tbh. Longish throws on the shifter, fairly relaxed throttle tuning, and the clutch is... okay it's kinda flat. No worse than the Honda Civic, but a bit worse than the Mazda 3.
Long story short. It's nice.
civic girder
is it electronic throttle?
dense shard
yep
civic girder
big yikes
dense shard
Mind you... my Ford Contour had the same throttle response, and that was analog.
civic girder
Now that is down to engine tune
dense shard
Nah. You just need to take big stabs to make it vroom.
It's not jumpy like a lot of other cars.
civic girder
My experiences with electronic throttle have been poor
dense shard
Y'know... toe the throttle, and you are at 90%.
This car is 50% is 50%.
That's my take. It's more Nissan than Honda in throttle response.
civic girder
The Prius has the biggest brain throttle I've ever seen. Its why I dislike electronic throttle, and shows just how badly it can be tuned
floors it
insert spongebob screenshot here
lawn mower noises intensify
it literally takes 2 seconds for the throttle to respond
dense shard
Honestly. I've learned to deal with electronic throttles.
The Corolla has these... quirks.
civic girder
I didn't realize how unresponsive it was until I got a car with a cable
dense shard
It seriously reminds me of the Contour in a lot of regards.
Honda throttles are almost jumpy imo.
I keep my family's Rogue in eco.
Dunno why, but it feels right.
civic girder
That's almost more of a EFI thing
Miatas are very jumpy too
but my RX-7, which is carbed ofc, has a very linear and raw feel in the throttle
dense shard
I believe that.
civic girder
it doesn't jump when you tap it, because the carb can't instantly inject fuel
dense shard
The Corolla doesn't jump immediately if you stab the throttle.
... that or my definition of stab is different.
civic girder
Stab meaning you give it a healthy amount of throttle?
civic girder
Yea, so a healthy amount. Somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2
dense shard
It's been over a week since I've driven my car.
civic girder
but I expect my engine to jump when I slap/stab the throttle
tap it, I expect a sputter/light rev
When I floor it while moving, I expect the car to move
civic girder
I've not encountered an electronic throttle that can respond as instantaneously as a cable can
the computer mediates your inputs and can give you the stink eye if it wants
dense shard
The Civic Si is pretty damn fast.
civic girder
but the cable, you're in charge
dense shard
That car was sublime. Likely best sub 25k car period.
civic girder
I'm sure
dense shard
This is the 09 era cars.
civic girder
Yea
civic girder
I've driven an NB Miata
the throttle is ridiculously jumpy and the motor is very rev happy
the throttle response is insane
dense shard
The 8th gen Civics were throttle by wire for context.
civic girder
hmmm
dense shard
It depends on the car and automaker.
Cause the Contour was analog throttle, and it was kinda dopey.
civic girder
That could be due to the economy tune or a loose cable
dense shard
Once you gave it the beans, it went, but otherwise it was kinda "eehhhhhh, really, do I reaaaallllWAAAAAHHHHHHRRRRRAGHGHG"
It had VTEC.
Second intake came on at 3.5k and you felt it.
And heard it.
did you just get slapped by the bot?
civic girder
yes
civic girder
I used a censored word when describing how the computer can decide whether or not to give you throttle, and how much, when you have drive by wire
Civic has two intakes?
dense shard
Once again. I've never really had issues with throttle by wire.
I've always gotten used to it pretty fast.
civic girder
I've gotten further from used to it since I got a car with a cable
dense shard
It wasn't so much a fight against the machine, but rather how can I tickle power out of this beast.
Sometimes you don't. Simple as that.
civic girder
same thing in this context, in my book anyway
civic girder
To me it embodies the "its a feature" mindset, which I hate
dense shard
Be it throttle tuning or transmission tuning.
civic girder
Yea, I guess
dense shard
All automakers have moved to throttle by wire.
civic girder
sadly
dense shard
It's not so much a feature, but just a thing.
Done right it's faster throttle response.
Done differently... well it's set for fuel economy.
civic girder
I'm not sure how that's possible
dense shard
Ask Honda.
civic girder
How is it faster than literally opening the throttle plates directly?
unless you're somehow preemptively reading throttle input
which sounds dangerous
No matter what hardware you use and how precisely you tune it, there will be a small amount of input lag. If you're well versed, you'd notice. Kinda like how you can notice input lag when PC gaming