You're not allowed to drive those UPS trucks on a normal driver's license here in Europe.
#cars
patent basalt
Literally just put a brush guard on my avalanche today and tonight I hit a deer for the first time ever good timing
patent basalt
Still got my grille and left some fur on the guard lol
Looked so nice this morning π
civic spoke
I hit a bird with my truck a while back. I think it hit the wind deflector up top or something. Because I saw nothing of the bird.
Other than a piece of feather on the antenna.
crisp flicker
I had a Barn Owl attack my 97 silver eclipse once. bounced right off the top of windshield.
while I was going down the highway @ eh 70MPH
unreal terrace
@civic spoke have you seen the KONA electric?
450km range
80% charge in whatever less than 8hrs
civic spoke
Yeah, I have heard of it. Time to charge isn't really an issue if it's going to be charged on the daily.
eager kite
258 mile EPA range
civic spoke
Most EV's that you want to buy is around β¬30~40k
Renault Zeo is in the lower range. of β¬30k
But there are a bunch around β¬40k
If I get 150 km of real world range, then I'm honestly happy.
civic spoke
The e-Golf is probably a solid option as well.
unreal terrace
the E-mini looks pretty appealing to me
unreal terrace
How much monster must I consume to become Gale Banks
How much monster must I consume to become Gale Banks
fair bronze
Twice as much apparently
stoic ledge
Oof lol JD xD
wheat hatch
crisp flicker
heh
stoic ledge
Heh
jagged coyote
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
dense shard
parking brake
stoic ledge
Ah, isn't that just (!) like on literally every car? π
dense shard
That's brake failure in my car.
stoic ledge
Oof xD
civic spoke
My record is 6.0 l/100km according to my car. But I know it's lying.
unreal terrace
laughs in 5l/100km
stoic ledge
I don't really care about the economy since LPG is cheap anyway 
Although our "cheap" is basically regular in the US xD
jagged coyote
my car could do better but it's mostly short trips with no time to heat, or long road where i push a little hard, but i do 6L/100km with a 1.5l diesel
stoic ledge
Imagine using a diesel for short trips
jagged coyote
all the cars we've got are diesel Β―_(γ)_/Β―
stoic ledge
How's the market share for diesels nowadays in France?
jagged coyote
meh idk, we never bought new
jagged coyote
yeah, why buy a new car that will depreciate fast when you could buy one who has already depreciated
stoic ledge
Exactly
That's why we always bought 4 year old cars with regular mileage for less than half the new price
Also: literally unaffordable here with emissions taxes
unreal terrace
Imagine a world where diesel is $5/gallon
stoic ledge
It's only 6USD/gallon here
jagged coyote
happens bcs of what is going on in china, demand was lowered a bit there and so the price is getting cheaper
I remember a time where it was sub 1β¬/L
fair bronze
Oof that's cheap
stoic ledge
Yes
Gotta love having LPG and living right next to the Belgium border
Nearest Dutch station is β¬0.744, basically double xD
Further away it's β¬0.629, still over 50% more expensive
unreal terrace
@fair bronze I'm getting there
fair bronze
hmm
unreal terrace
Empty X)
drifting mantle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/160222919887159296/678732970584047617/image0.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/160222919887159296/678732971158798336/image1.jpg
Changed out the front motor mount for my car.
I didn't expect it to change a lot, but it felt so much better when shifting gears, and even when just turning off the car.
That little death rattle that happens when the gas is cut off isn't as strong anymore x'D
indigo coral
nice!
drifting mantle
Oh, and either Honda made a bad design decision, or the welds on this one nut broke x'D
The front most bolt, the nut that holds it onto the frame got loose.
indigo coral
I'm not sure how my motor mounts are
gonna be a huge pain when they inevitably have to be replaced lol
drifting mantle
Lol
This front one should've only taken me like 20 minutes or so.
But cause of that one nut, it took a lot longer.
I'm lucky my dad got home at that time, cause otherwise my car would've been stuck and undriveable.
indigo coral
Considering the prescribed method for valve cover gaskets in my car is engine out, I'm going to guess its a pain in the ass
drifting mantle
Oh damn x'D
My driver-side mount is also pretty easy.
Had to take it off to change the timing belt
Passenger-side mount will be a bit harder, but I can put my hand around it without taking anything off.
The rear mount will be the hardest.
Though I'm probably never gonna mess with it.
indigo coral
yeah, we didn't end up dropping the motor to fix it
had to sacrifice a socket, but we permanently resolved the issue
drifting mantle
oof? xD
indigo coral
there was a bracket that hooked to the back of the intake, and hooked around the frame
it was pressed incredibly tightly against the firewall
civic girder
The RX-7 could probably use motor mounts
though its a rotary, its smooth af
even if the mounts are shot, you can't tell lmfao
stiff stirrup
(β―Β°β‘Β°οΌβ―οΈ΅ β»ββ»
dense shard
Accord motor mounts are almost comically easy to get at.
I'm happy you got it fixed
I sheered a bolt when I did it.
lethal garnet
which car
dense shard
It's a Corolla hatchback.
Kind of amusing to see they are in fact 100% Japanese cars.
JDM bro. It's totally the same thing.
Also behold. Poggodemon.
stoic ledge
Mines 100% german
dense shard
Sure, it shouldn't matter where something is made, but there remains that perception.
stoic ledge
Some people say they can notice the difference between German and Spain built Corsa's
I never noticed it
dense shard
It's usually fit and finish details... or paint quality.
Ideally automakers want the McDonald's approach to their products. No matter the factory or market, a Ford will be a Ford.
Same with McDonald's. Spain, US, Japan... a burger will taste the same... and it does.
stoic ledge
And if it's 2019, or 2029, it will taste the same
dense shard
I imagine both the 2019 and 2029 burgers by now will be quite dry and crunchy.
stoic ledge
Probably
I know my parents Meriva is from the Spain plant, but the paint or finish details are at least as good... If not better
But ofcourse it was also a more "high-end" car compared to the Corsa
They built the 3-door variant in Germany, 5-door in Spain
You do notice differences in for example German and Mexican built VW's, But that's not only a different factory but they also use different materials inside
dense shard
VW redefined shitty QC when they built their original Pennsylvania factory back in the day.
VW has been dealing with the shadow of crap quality in all metric since.
normal temple
My VW would like to argue with that /s
dense shard
They've gotten better since then, but... "wouldn't you rather the car have been built in Germany?"
VW Americanized too much in the 70s. lol
I still think they're doing it all wrong.
The older 00s Jettas were the good stuff. Semi-luxury up market compacts... then in the 10s they went as down market as they could to capture a niche they didn't need to capture. The Mirage niche.
normal temple
mine is a 2003 yes
dense shard
So then they tried to make the last gen Jetta better by trying... then the new generation comes around with a twist beam axle and the smallest engine they could get away with.
normal temple
I can confirm its a crayon factory inside
normal temple
No
dense shard
I'll take crayons over the vomit smell some plastics emit.
dense shard
oh?
normal temple
depression
dense shard
oof
stoic ledge
Smallest engine they could get away with?
Laughs in European 1.0.TSI
normal temple
My legs would like to compete for that title
dense shard
It is the US.
Last gen base engine was a 2.0 8V from the 80s.
It was low on power, fun, and fuel economy.
normal temple
My Mk4 has the mighty 2.8 VR6
stoic ledge
So it's perfect for a VW
runs
stoic ledge
Basically, yes
normal temple
baited
stoic ledge
https://youtu.be/lCcZayS4xzo
Literally 20 seconds
dense shard
look at him short shift
stoic ledge
Oof some nice parts
dense shard
that Golf doesn't sound very happy.
stoic ledge
Well it's an old turboless diesel, revving it higher would probably make it even slower xD
normal temple
https://youtu.be/Q0tQWr-_4LI this is happy
normal temple
5
normal temple
FWD
stoic ledge
Put it in reverse and you have RWD
normal temple
It'll basically be a 911
stoic ledge
It is! The Golf was created when they put a Beetle (911) body the wrong way on a chassis
Bet you didn't know that
civic girder
stoic ledge
Wtf that starter noise
civic girder
I mean
there was also a Tesla that broke while parked
and there have been plenty of Teslas burning down in the past as well
eager kite
yea but how many Teslas are on the road vs. how many Taycans are on the road...
stoic ledge
N = 1
Also, who said the fire started with the car itself? Could just as well been a seperate fire, which ignited the Porsche.
Before jumping to conclusions, wait for the investigation to finish
jagged coyote
also, we never hear from what goes great, we always hear from what goes wrong
dense shard
and a garage burning down is as wrong as it gets.
eager kite
not like anyone waited for investigations to finish on Tesla fires but ok...
dense shard
...
eager kite
and for a fire to occur this early in its production run is either bad luck or a serious problem
normal temple
That's an epic starter @civic girder
normal temple
who wants an epic coil
civic girder
the first start I do in that video is: hold key until it starts up nice
second start I do is: bump key and let it sputter to life
stoic ledge
Well no if we have CCTV footage of a Tesla spontaneously catching fire the investigation is kinda redundant
And yes I've also seen other EVs catching fire on the news, from Tesla to Leaf to an i8 to... . Unless there is clear proof of how it happened based on an article, just wait for the investigation to finish.
Yes, it's possible it caught fire itself. Yes, it's also possible it was set on fire. Yes, it's also possible there was an electric wall box which malfunctioned. Yes, it's also possible there was a house fire. Do we know what happened? No.
stoic ledge
civic girder
all hail the mighty spinning triangle
fair bronze
Dorito ftw
normal temple
DORITO POWER
eager kite
As I said, it's either bad luck or a serious problem
fair bronze
Or you're biased af
eager kite
how is that bias?
fair bronze
You're only sharing positive Tesla news here and negative news about their competition
eager kite
it's either not the porsche's fault, the porsche's fault but something very rare to go wrong, or the porche's fault and something that was likely to go wrong based on some design/manufacturing flaw
fair bronze
Chevy Spark
dense shard
Honestly I'm just waiting on MK to post a glow plug.
fair bronze
Of what
dense shard
The thing diesels use.
eager kite
spark plugs make good projectiles when their threads die
fair bronze
He doesn't have a diesel though
dense shard
Wait... his Opel isn't a diesel?
fair bronze
Nope
dense shard
oh right... he uses LPG?
normal temple
He has pure speed
fair bronze
Yes sir
dense shard
My mistake.
fair bronze
No worries
dense shard
On right... we can wait for Conradish to post a glow plug.
I think his van is diesel... or the truck.
fair bronze
Must be a truck
normal temple
Just pour diesel into your gas car, it'll work
fair bronze
fuel = fuel
dense shard
If you pour diesel into a Skyactiv X... will it still run? π€
fair bronze
Right
dense shard
A trend I'm not a fan of.
Your car shaped key fob.
It's a tiny porsche to start your real porsche
dense shard
I wish the Toyota key fob was smaller.
But Toyota saved the 15p so they could put that money into... uhhhhhh something.
normal temple
Moni
stoic ledge
No I don't have a glow plug
It's indeed LPG
So the gas version + another fuel tank
Or propane or whatever it's called in the US
It's actually a mixture of propane/butane over here
normal temple
I've never heard of LPG here
dense shard
I imagine it's probably not for automotive use.
stoic ledge
https://gazeo.com/up-to-date/news/2017/LPG-car-sales-up-in-the-US,article,9708.html
Idk how reliable this is, but 200k LPG vehicles in the USA apparently
Or autogas
That's another name for it
dense shard
Welcome to 'merica
stoic ledge
And don't forget that the US autogas market comprises almost exclusively commercial vehicles, including in no small part school buses
Mostly commercial use
dense shard
figures
stoic ledge
Anyway, basically just a gas powered car with some secundary injectors, fuel tank etc which can run on both gas as LPG/propane/autogas/...
Reasons to use it:
- 10-15% less CO2 emissions
- 90% less NOx emissions
Over here: - Cheaper fuel
But not all engines can run it (will just blow the valves out xD), and the system itself requires an investment
unreal terrace
laughs in BMW 316g
unreal terrace
I actually had enough money left over so I could refuel my car 
unreal terrace
fathom socket
I love my 2017 GT model :3
civic girder
I love my 1983 Mazda RX-7 GS example
civic girder
lol
fathom socket
They need to bring back those cars ;/
Some guy is building the mighty RX 7 four rotary engine c:
eager kite
Funny how when a Tesla catches on fire there's 500 news stories about in within 20 minutes
but when a Taycan catches on fire literally only Electrek and a few rando blog sites have stories about it...
civic girder
I mean
The Taycan may not have been the actual cause of the fire
and its possible the owner wanted to keep the news small
afaik, a vast majority of Tesla fires involve cars that are actively on the road and therefore impeding traffic, so ofc there's gonna be a million news vans and copters at the scene in moments
but this was much different
indigo coral
Tesla cars are also very fire-prone due to their unstable chemistry
civic girder
^
indigo coral
There were a couple iPaces that caught fire too, but instead of stoically ignoring the problem and telling customers to get bent, Jaguar compensated the owners and took care of it
civic girder
I actually never heard about those
eager kite
I'm not saying the Taycan caused it
just that the media bias against Tesla is made clear by this event
Tesla's are actually very not fire prone, FUD fails in the face of facts
civic girder
The media is biased against everything
eager kite
twitter thread about Tesla fire risk
Yes, media sources have biases.
But, regardless of political affiliation, most media sources make articles whenever a Tesla catches on fire
But literally only 1 legitimate news source made an article about the Taycan...
like bruh
indigo coral
Ah yes, a Tesla focused channel defending Tesla. Who'd have thought??
eager kite
genetic fallacies ftw
indigo coral
fallacies*
eager kite
shh
stoic ledge
I found a flaw in their math:
- Between 2014 and 2016, 171.000 cars caught fire
And then they use that number as annual
Anyway, that means the rate is 0.021% including EVs ^^
46% of which started due to electric failure, 26% due to liquids.
So, applying the average 0.021% to the all-time Tesla sales figures, it results in 199 fires a car annually
Don't forget that most ICE car fires start when they're older too, the only car I've personally ever seen catching fire is a 1997 Volvo V70 Estate
fair bronze
@stoic ledge Opel is returning to Japan https://www.autoweek.nl/autonieuws/artikel/opel-keert-terug-naar-japan/
So thatβll mean RHD Opels lol
eager kite
@stoic ledge if you check the citation, the 171k number is an annualized rate
so no, it's still a .065% rate
There would need to be hundreds of Tesla car fires each year to match ICEV rates of fires
And keep in mind, this is *** only highway fires***, not including all the other vehicle fires across the US.
stoic ledge
@fair bronze Good fun cars in Japan RHD Opel's are a thing btw, Ireland has them too
unreal terrace
Dont you guys know Vauxhall
stoic ledge
@eager kite I did check the source, but it's kinda confusing using numerous terms at once like they did in the paper xD
@unreal terrace of course we do, but these are actually RHD Opels, not Vauxhalls π
unreal terrace
vauxhalls are RHD opels
stoic ledge
But not all RHD Opels are Vauxhalls
unreal terrace
theyve just written vauxhall in crayon on it
stoic ledge
You basically have:
- LHD: Opel
- RHD:
- England: Vauxhall
- Ireland, Japan: Opel
stoic ledge
I have no idea xD
unreal terrace
stoic ledge
My grandparents had a Black Edition Dacia Sandero... It was Silver
Ah no not Black Edition, but Black Line
eager kite
"Each year, from 2014 to 2016, an estimated 171,500 highway vehicle fires occurred in the United States, resulting
in an annual average of 345 deaths; 1,300 injuries; and $1.1 billion in property loss."
@stoic ledge
I don't see what's confusing about that
stoic ledge
Idk I was taking a π© while reading while getting ready
bitter compass
lets create equality and burn for every ev that burns the equal amount in % of ice vehicles, and the other way around, boosts economy since people need new cars after that, and equality π€
Dacias are kinda good looking
simple and not over designed
looking at you golf 8 and bmw
π
dense shard
Stance aside, looks better than stock.
lethal garnet
the cambers there because the way hes building it is that hes bagging it
so when its aired out the cambers there, but not while hes driving
dense shard
So it is bagged.
lethal garnet
yea
fair bronze
@stoic ledge Apparently they do https://www.opel.co.za/
desert glen
Nissan Versa looks like a kids drawing of a car
civic girder
The only car fire I've witnessed was a beat to shit 90s CRV that was already in flames by the time I drove past it
fair bronze
For me it was a Fiat Bravo that was on fire at the side of the road, around 5-10 years ago
jagged coyote
fiats being reliable is a joke
jagged coyote
there's a guy on another server i'm in that has a tipo, or an egea as they call in in turkey, he had to have a warrantied engine replacement because one of the pistons put in was the wrong size...
dense shard
So factory fucked up, QC fucked up, dealer fucked up.
That or they somehow managed to get a car from factory to customer without ever cranking the engine.
jagged coyote
idk, the guy is bad at english so maybe it wasn't a size issue, but they still had to replace the whole engine due to factory error
stoic ledge
Bravo is quite a nice car actually
stoic ledge
Yeah and the Punto is/was quite nice too
stoic ledge
Yeah and even when it went out of production it looked modern... Really good design
dense shard
not a bad design at all.
stoic ledge
2CV, and a S63 AMG
2CV with S63 AMG engine and vice versa π
fathom socket
speeeeeeeeeeeeeed and powaaaaaaaaaah
civic spoke
Wee. Car tax paid. 
stoic ledge
I pay it every month
stoic ledge
A tax you have to pay to be able to drive on the road? π
stoic ledge
Is it a recurring cost?
civic girder
Yes. For where I live it can be annually, tri-annually, or every 5 years; whichever you want
the registration means that those plates are still on that car, you still own and drive that car
civic girder
then afaik I don't have car tax
stoic ledge
As far as I know, you don't
civic girder
another reason Ohio is cool
no car tax, no emissions
no inspections
(though emissions is relative, couple counties have it, but it's pretty lax since anything over 25 years is exempt)
stoic ledge
Wait, you're saying you don't want to pay:
- 21% VAT
- CO2 emissions tax
- Road tax every month
- Annual inspections incl emissions
stoic ledge
Ah, and ofc the excise duty on fuel
civic girder
nope
afaik we don't have additional costs on fuel, and I'm 99% sure we don't have sales tax on fuel
civic girder
lmao
civic girder
yikes
stoic ledge
Ok so you work hard, amd you get a paycheck
Of that paycheck, roughly 45% is tax
Then, you decide to buy a car. The car (for example a 130hp base VW Golf). Before taxes, it's β¬21k. Add 4.5k in VAT, 4k in emissions tax, so the 21k car is 30k.
Next, you pay road tax every month. For a gas Golf, it's roughly β¬65 a month
Then, you fill it up, and you have to pay 7.5USD/gallon since 63% of it is tax
wicked minnow
whoa a car channel. wasnt expecting to find this in here
stoic ledge
Ofcourse there's a car channel
wicked minnow
what whips do yall drive?
dense shard
2019 Toyota Corolla HB
wicked minnow
oo nice
i used to have a 06 mazda 3 hb and when i see those i wonder how they are they look very nice but idk much about them.
dense shard
The 2019 Mazda 3 is far from perfect.
wicked minnow
ive seen them at the dealers and sat in one. its nice but not sporty. more luxury or atleast in my opinion
dense shard
But feel and driving pleasure isn't as great.
dense shard
Also seats are not that great, interior feels cramped and dark.
80s Honda are the good ones.
dense shard
go figure, a Prelude.
wicked minnow
of course
dense shard
And an Si to boot.
wicked minnow
hense my name xD
stoic ledge
The rear corner of the new Mazda 3 is odd imho, too big/wide/...
dense shard
I would say I'm jealous, but that would just make me look jealous.
stoic ledge
It's equipped with the anti theft device I see
dense shard
The styling is nice on the new Mazda3, but holy shit they traded in functionality all for style.
Now I know why automakers change concept cars so much for production.
wicked minnow
the new mazda 3 hb seems like it has alot less room than my 06 did
stoic ledge
https://www.newcarz.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/NewCarz-Mazda-3-2019-NB-01.jpg
From thus angle, I don't like it
I actually prefer the sedan
Not something I say often
dense shard
I prefer the hatchback.
wicked minnow
the hatch is like smahsed down
dense shard
The new sedan looks almost identical to the last gen.
stoic ledge
True, but it's the better proportioned one
dense shard
I like the new hatchback's stance, but the seats and price killed it for me.
wicked minnow
the roof on the 1st gen was higher. and im only comparing the 1st because thats the only one ive owned
dense shard
I can accept the argument the first gen was the best gen.
wicked minnow
never really interacted with the 2nd or 3rd gen. and honestly the 1st is the best for me because of the speed3
dense shard
man... that looks fresh almost 20 years later.
2nd gen was alright inside. Kinda plasticy.
wicked minnow
2nd gen was too happy
wicked minnow
ive driven a 3rd gen with the 6speed. it was alot quicker than my 5 speed 2.3L
dense shard
New one is 2.5L only, and I don't think it lacks anything, but it's... dunno.
dull?
The Corolla I got feels no worse if not better.
wicked minnow
intresting
dense shard
Toyota upped their game for the newest stuff.
stoic ledge
New one is also 2.0 SkyActive-G and 2.0 SkyActive-X
dense shard
US only gets the 2.5 SkyActiv-G.
And I doubt we're getting the X.
Doesn't offer anything for the price.
stoic ledge
Oof apparently there's even a 1.5 SkyActive-G
wicked minnow
i just want to see the speed come back
stoic ledge
The SkyActive-X is only β¬800 more than the 2.0 SkyActive-G iirc
dense shard
The Corolla hatch starts at 20k.
The new Mazda 3 is more expensive with the G in the US.
Adding the X for even a grand more would be hard to swallow.
The engine doesn't add anything relevant in the US market.
dense shard
It's down ~15 horses compared to the 2.5L
stoic ledge
Nice piece of technology tho
dense shard
Better fuel economy... better than 40mpg? Maybe?
stoic ledge
We don't have the 2.5
dense shard
yeah, which is the hang up for me tbh.
The X offers less power, maybe better fuel economy, and vastly better emissions.
The last one is great in Europe where they tax by emissions.
stoic ledge
Yeah well that's why the price difference is only 800β¬ in π³π±
It's actually 4k more, But the CO2 tax is 3k lower
stoic ledge
863 USD
dense shard
oh... Euro has lost ground to the dollar.
stoic ledge
Apparently
Gotta love how cars depreciate... I'm looking at an Opel Insignia (Buick Regal)... New price β¬39k, now one year later just β¬27k
That's a third off
Just a couple of years and I can afford it π
civic girder
stoic ledge
You are correct sir
wicked minnow
nice. my dad has a 3rd gen
civic girder
2nd gen bae
wicked minnow
3rd gen has lots of issues
stoic ledge
Toyota? Issues? Never!
wicked minnow
xD
civic girder
I am probs gonna change my headgasket early
so I can get those ceramic pieces out of the cylinder
unreal terrace
My friends Honda Fit (Jazz here) has just turned over to 240.000km X) he bought it at 140.000km
I helped him buy it π€£
dense shard
nice
normal temple
I dropped a transmission in my driveway on jackstands
Made me want to die
But I did it
indigo coral
considering how big of a pain in the arse the valve covers were in my car, I'm not looking forward to anything more involved.
Will happen (unfortunately) eventually though.
desert glen
I miss my volvo
normal temple
dense shard
oh no
eager kite
stoic ledge
Oof well that's an old image e-Golf is basically out of production That's an image of 2014
Where do they state it's 3.3L/100km? Besides that, it was actually correct at the time when the NEDC made it's tests for the 1.6 TDI: it was rated at 3.3L/100km on the highway. And yes, I've said before those are inaccurate, but you literally said it's still valid to compare one result from the same test cycle to another. So basically, VW did nothing wrong.
Also, his Spritmonitor link doesn't show the 1.6 TDI Bluemotion with the NEDC result of 3.3L/100km, but other engines (including the 2.0TDI). Getting the right car still won't get you to the 3.3L/100km, but spreading "facts" with the wrong facts is equally as wrong π
@eager kite
Proof you said that π
Also: why the f* is the red line suddenly drawn much lower? The production emissions are still there fyi
Also: there's no description on which energy they used for the e-Golf. In Germany, most electricity still originates from brown coal, which also emits quite a lot of emissions
eager kite
that graph is from early 2019
read the entire post, already answers a lot of your objections
and for the comparison thing, that isn't valid here because we aren't comparing anything that the NEDC covers.
@stoic ledge
And the red line is parallel to the line that VW drew for CO2 production per km, meaning its using the same rate that VW is using
stoic ledge
Oof if it's really 2019, that's shady π
But why does the red line start lower π
After production, it magically takes away created emission? π€
Strange they used old e-Golf number when they're talking about the oncoming ID.3... those will have a different result
And unsure why they used outdated numbers in 2019
If it was a 2015 chart, the numbers would have been right at the time
eager kite
bruh, did you not read the twitter thread
the red line is lower because he uses CO2 production estimates for Li-ion that are more realistic
that Volkswagen Newsroom article is from April of 2019
that's the earliest I found it when reverse image searching it on google
stoic ledge
Yeah I checked it too, couldn't find an older data for the image
civic spoke
storm acorn
tis' simply a weight saving measure
dense shard
oh yeah. Exploding sunroofs are apparently fairly common.
In all cars.
Apparently managing body flex isn't as fine and total as automakers like to pretend. Personally I'm quite happy my car lacks glass on the roof.
Also suffer with me.
storm acorn
sounds like an idea for a Nintendo racing game power , **Sunroof Smash- bash other drivers cars to bits with a large glass slab projectile **
civic girder
see, the sunroof on the RX-7 is designed properly
manual mechanism to tilt it up
it only lifts up
and only lifts up in the back
and then if you want, you can release the locking mechanism and remove the roof
I think the track for the lift mechanism is somewhat busted, as my sunroof doesn't go all the way down unless I force it to
fair bronze
@desert glen Awesome old Volvo
velvet mirage
I had some custom engine mounts I designed cutout I spent way longer than I needed to on it lol
stoic ledge
What car and what engine
velvet mirage
mk1 ford Capri and a 302 Windsor v8
normal temple
Faster than my car
unreal terrace
the satesfaction when your car regenerates the FAP and you go zoom zoom fast
indigo coral
regenerates the wat
civic girder
yea, idk what he's talking about either
I can't wait for the day when I can post on Discord pictures of custom motor mounts for slapping a 13B in a truck
but baby steps
But I did some ye olden ripping in the RX-7 today
and got my windshield chipped by an asshole
And got the Mazda gang together and went cruising with my friend and his NC
hallow wagon
oops.
unreal terrace
dense shard
fathom socket
dense shard
lol
dense shard
Interesting... they didn't sell em for a model year 1999.
So that would make it one of the first cars made.
Manual or not. I think that's my favorite Ferrari.
indigo coral
ignoring reliability concerns, my favorite ferrari is the F355
fathom socket
@dense shard Careful, that's copyright infringement
fathom socket
Hehe
dense shard
I would do it, but loading gifs on discord is akin to a torture test.
How goes it, Conrad?
fathom socket
Okay
Lost my damn mind searching for a USB C cable all day
I had 5 of them
I went and bought one
When I came home I found one of them
I think they were borrowed without letting me know
dense shard
oof
fathom socket
I also finally got a laptop of mine working
indigo coral
nice
fathom socket
I wanted the USB C cable so I could format a hard drive
Did that
I don't know why, but the WiFi works without the drivers installed. But when you install them, the WiFi stops working.
eager kite
Twitter
stoic ledge
π€
stoic ledge
@fair bronze just refueled the car, 347km for exactly β¬10 β¬2.88/100km, literally cheaper than an EV
dense shard
BMW is finally going to kill the X6, 4 series gran whatever and the 6 series gran coupe, and the X2, 2 series, and 1 series?
I imagine their next step will be to eliminate diesels and V8s.
As for questionable EV strategy. They've taken the most conservative and hedged bet approach possible.
Their entire line up rides on two platforms. FWD and RWD based that can take pure gas, hybrid, or pure electric.
Not sure if they're special in that regard at all considering everyone is doing it now. At least Toyota has flavors of their platforms.
indigo coral
Rip, I like the X6
indigo coral
it ain't anywhere near that cheap to fill mine up especially in winter
Lol
I only get 16mpg during wintertime
stoic ledge
@eager kite literally cheaper than an EV
How much kWh/100km does an EV use?
15.5kWh/100km EPA for a Model 3 SR+ apparently
Real word probably more
15.5kWh * β¬0.22/kWh = β¬3.41/100km
And that charging at home, public or fast charging is more expensive
So with β¬2.88/100km, it's literally cheaper than an EV
eager kite
LR Model 3, 322 mi with 75kwh pack
that's 4.2933 mi/kwh
or 6.9094 km/kwh
347km / 6.9094 = 50.22 kwh needed
50.22 kwh * $0.13 per kwh = $6.53
dense shard
Can we please stick to one set of standards?
eager kite
stickin with EPA here
dense shard
I'm not gonna randomly do conversions between mpg, km/L, miles/100 miles, and liters per 100 km.
stoic ledge
50.22kWh * β¬0.22 = β¬11,04 > β¬10
eager kite
not my fault EU power is more expensive lol
stoic ledge
Yeah that's why I used .../100km
eager kite
US average price per kwh is 13 cents
dense shard
All markets are different. In MK's case... his car is cheaper to run.
eager kite
also, I converted all my stuff to km...
dense shard
We can't apply American prices on energy to the rest of the world.
stoic ledge
TheΒ average electricity priceΒ in theΒ NetherlandsΒ is 23 centsΒ per kilowatt hourΒ (kWh).
It's 23 cents
xD
stoic ledge
Super cheap everything
dense shard
Diesel less so, but still cheap.
stoic ledge
Except health insurance and college
stoic ledge
That's what you get for not having road tax xD
stoic ledge
You can havr nice roads... If every car pays 70 USD a month
eager kite
and haven't been increased to account for inflation for 40 years
stoic ledge
How much are they
dense shard
It's per gallon.
eager kite
^
dense shard
Gas tax hasn't gone up since the 90s I believe.
dense shard
That's federal tax mind you.
stoic ledge
Like I stated before:
Of that paycheck, roughly 45% is tax
Then, you decide to buy a car. The car (for example a 130hp base VW Golf). Before taxes, it's β¬21k. Add 4.5k in VAT, 4k in emissions tax, so the 21k car is 30k.
Next, you pay road tax every month. For a gas Golf, it's roughly β¬65 a month
Then, you fill it up, and you have to pay 7.5USD/gallon since 63% of it is tax```and yea, 1993 was the last time someone fucked with it
yea the states have their own ones
dense shard
In the US you get income tax, sales tax, and then local sales tax tacked on.
eager kite
gas tax should be at 39.9 cents per gallon right now if it kept up with inflation
dense shard
ah well. Gas is cheap at least, so that's nice.
stoic ledge
It's basically β¬1/liter in gas tax here
eager kite
but you have nice roads
I could literally destroy my wheels on some of the normal commuter roads here
stoic ledge
Well only the "important" part of the country, like The Hague and Amsterdam. All other parts don't matter
Yeah ok no it's not that bad
eager kite
it's pretty bad
cities are usually good
suburbs are questionable
highways are a hit or miss depending on the state
rural is anyone's guess
eager kite
highways here are the responsibility of the state to maintain their parts
some states put money into their road work
and others don't
especially the northern and midwest states
stoic ledge
I think the highways here are the responsibility of the country itself (?). Other roads connecting townships are the responsibility of provinces, just like the roads in the townships themselves
Atleast, that's what I think
eager kite
Generally it seems that the states with very variable climates, like the northern and midwest ones, generally just wait until the roads get very fucked and then do single large repair projects to replace a section of the highway.
So most of the time you're driving on the highway it's pretty shit. Then you'll hit the few mile section they redid a year ago and it's super nice
then it immediately goes back to being shit.
stoic ledge
Oof well makes sense, colder climate roads get damaged again quite quickly so fixing them for every defect is very expensive
eager kite
Yea, but at the same time the cost of shutting down one side of the highway and restricting travel like that is not insignificant. Plus, at that point it's a massive effort that needs a ton of people
I think if they just periodically came around and filled in all the damn holes it would delay them needing to tear it all up and replace it
stoic ledge
Oof
eager kite
they do it already as a stop gap measure when it gets really bad but they don't have the funding or they weren't expecting to tear up the road yet
stoic ledge
Tarmac roads usually stay good for a very long time around here
Only when they have to do repair for waterlines underneath or something, it gets broken up
Also depends on what type of road, some roads which is used by semi's all day long also tend to "sag" quicker, so they need patches
unreal terrace
We just get massive potholes if the roads arent super thiccc
indigo coral
we get big potholes
idk why
we dont get super cold
and theyre always trying to fix them lol
dense shard
I almost wish I had smaller wheels.
stoic ledge
I wanted to upgrade mine to 17" but I'm glad I didn't
stoic ledge
Your crossover SUV has the same size as mine
dense shard
17s would be a nice balance between the two choices Toyota offers now.
indigo coral
i didn't even know 14s were a thing
stoic ledge
There are even cars with 13"
14" was only available on the base trim tho, with literally 0 equipment
stoic ledge
Oof xD
Or 1998 Peugeot wagon actually had 14" alloy wheels
Those are actually 14's
indigo coral
they're... balloons?
civic spoke
They look like it, because of how wide the sidewalls are.
195/65R15
Basically like these. I have similar rims for my winter tires.
stoic ledge
Aargh I should still order new tires for the front
civic spoke
I thought about doing that as well. Then I'd make sure to get alu wheels for both winter and summer.
indigo coral
My rear tires are bad, but I can't just swap them out
without destroying the awd system
indigo coral
new tires = 1300$
not feelin it
theyre fine, just worn unevenly but the uneven part isn't being worn down further, nor is it showing cords, bubbling, anything like that.
stoic ledge
Oof
indigo coral
fronts were out of alignment, wore down the inside of the tire
i put them on the back, the worn part is off the ground
lol
if that makes any sense
now that its straight
stoic ledge
Yeah I get 'ya
indigo coral
they're suboptimal but i don't think theyre downright dangerous
I do keep an eye on them
stoic ledge
π
indigo coral
and I put the more sketchy ones in the back anyways, so if htey do have a problem I still have steering
lmao
stoic ledge
Yeah some people say put the best tires in the rears, other say in the front...
I'd also say front since they do the steering
indigo coral
In a RWD car rear would make sense
but my car is strongly front biased, and steering is up front (obviously)
stoic ledge
Oof imagine having rear wheel steering only xD
fair bronze
stoic ledge
Yes
pastel hull
fastest car in the whole world right there
unreal terrace
When you realize that the south used to be a French colony
@stoic ledge I spend 8hrs a day 5 days a week driving one of these
single wheel rear wheel steering is pretty neat
stoic ledge
Yeah for a forklift it is, but not for a car xD
unreal terrace
X)
Would be neat AF for a city car π
Turning radius of it's own lenght leggo
stoic ledge
Rear engine RWD city cars also have an amazing turning radius
unreal terrace
:p
well if youve got a beetle you wouldnt want to turn cuz the car could jump off the road
stoic ledge
Oof xD
fair bronze
Sounds like tons of fun
carmine summit
Porsche 911 is the perfect car in town confirmed
flint sable
civic spoke
I'd rather have the Q8.
stoic ledge
I'd rather have the Stelvio
ripe umbra
i love the lambo urus
fathom socket
i am not a fan
its a big car for no reason at all
if you want a lambo get a lambo
if you want a car that can seat more than 2 go elsewhere
ripe umbra
i like SUV cars and i like the style of the lambo
fathom socket
imo it hurts the lambo sporting brand but i suppose lambos were never the best at on track performance
im not a fan of the huge suvs or the tiny crossovers mainly because they have very little actual off-roading capability
but thats just my opinion
fair bronze
I'd get the 159
civic spoke
We used to have the Alfa 156 with one of the V6's.
Lambo has almost always been bought for the wow-factor.
green scaffold
dense shard
I want to say it's as it says on the label.
A flat top piston will have a flat surface, while a bowl/dome whatever piston will have a curved surface.
Mind you the shape will vary among engine makers and engine types.
dense shard
Genesis Likely to Launch a G70 Shooting Brake That Looks Like an Enthusiast's Dream
@indigo coral
indigo coral
YES DO IT PLEASE
fathom socket
Jeep
indigo coral
YAYAYAYYAYAAYYAYAYAYAY
fathom socket
Lol
indigo coral
My biggest gripe with the G70 is the tiny cargo space
This would make it perfect
damn I'm so excited for that now
shrewd shell
Why do people like wagons so much lol
I am not a huge fan personally, they look ugly imo
dense shard
Honestly a lot of modern wagons look better than the sedans.
modern automotive styling lends itself to wagons. It works with the chonk that regulations and styling have brought about.
Also the increased utility is nice.
shrewd shell
Yeah it is more convenient, it just doesn't look "sporty" imo, but it depends on the car
wheat hatch
Personally, a great sports wagon is a combination of practicality and fun
shrewd shell
It depends on what you need
I like the look of the sedan better though
You might as well get an SUV instead of a wagon, one of my relatives has a BMW X3 m50i and that thing is a fun car to drive, you forget its an SUV
dense shard
SUVs tend to get worse fuel economy, and aren't as good on handling.
civic girder
^
dense shard
Joys of a higher center of gravity.
civic girder
Wagons look better anyways
dense shard
Wagons and crossovers have their places.
civic girder
however, I may have to suffer SUV life if I end up with an MX-30
shrewd shell
True but its not like you would want to get a wagon or SUV to take on a track anyways, you might occasionally but thats not what they are made for
dense shard
I have no plans to take any car I buy to a track.
sedan or not.
By and large most sedans aren't made to be taken to a track.
wheat hatch
Just not fond of SUV's
shrewd shell
I wanna take my car to the track lol
There isn't one close by though
civic girder
My ideal track car would be a beat to shit 80s wagon for 24 hours of lemons
And modded into a tank
dense shard
I might do some work on my Corolla, but it won't be a track machine.
civic girder
but other than something like that, I won't be tracking a car
I think lemons racing would be fun if I could get a team together and one of the races was relatively close
dense shard
I'm still waiting on Toyota to release more TRD parts... anyway bbl
civic girder
but I can live without tracking a car.
I like my slowpoke 80s wedge
foot to the floor, tach at redline, still not over the speed limit
shrewd shell
This is my car
civic girder
do you use turn signals
shrewd shell
my car has those?
shrewd shell
One of my family members got this recently
fathom socket
I have to wait until 2024
shrewd shell
You'll be able to save up and buy it then
fathom socket
I think I'm gonna buy one
civic girder
Personally, I'd rather have a R32 or R33
fathom socket
I have enough money for a decent down payment for a Supra or R34
civic girder
but my dream JDM imports would be a JDM Luce RE or a JDM Turbo FB
fair bronze
Truck guy wants a Skyline?
fair bronze
Didn't expect that
fathom socket
I don't just have a truck
civic girder
apparently he likes ching chong boosted straight 6's
fathom socket
I have a third gen Camaro
civic girder
yea
fair bronze
Cool
civic girder
less truck guy and more like 'Murica guy
fathom socket
It's a boosted LS
fair bronze
Yeah true @civic girder
fathom socket
Running 25+ PSI of boost
It runs low 10's in the 1/4 mile
If I did more chassis tuning I could get mid to low 9's
There was a time when my LS powered van was faster than that Camaro
Because the Camaro didn't have an engine when I bought it
civic girder
It might be time to spin up the triangles
fathom socket
600+whp Duramax is enough truck for me
civic girder
inb4 my truck is a rusty piece of shit Nissan hardbody
I kind of really want a truck, but I can't get one rn
ugh, I need to get a house already so I have space for a shitbox collection
unreal terrace
Now I just need the hover conversion :p
warm sparrow
civic spoke
Those hubcaps are pretty π
stoic ledge
I like everything except the hubcaps xD
civic girder
unreal terrace
@warm sparrow 
stoic ledge
Is that the top coat going or a perfect reflection of the clouds? xD
fathom socket
Guess what I found
stoic ledge
A Dacia
No? I give up
||Kinda ruining the guessing game xD||
But yeah nice Ferrari
urban inlet
Guys. Carz question. When I release the accelerator. I get a small hiccup, like 3small shakes of engine. If I press the accelerator, even a bit, it does the same. 
Is that normal? (2001 WV 1.6i gas engine)
viscid anvil
unreal terrace
@urban inlet gas or gasoline engine?