Features come with car, ... and come with the car.
#cars
dense shard
eager kite
eager kite
Dealer is lying
eager kite
dealer is lying
dense shard
There is no reason to remove features in teh car other than to scam people out of money.
I have no evidence that the dealer is lying.
eager kite
I don't trust what he says because he has lied to his customer and is continuing to lie to media
work orders don't lie
eager kite
yep it is
eager kite
work orders confirm that FSD was removed before the car was sold
dense shard
There is no reason to remove the feature once it has been installed.
eager kite
yet the Dealer sold it saying it had FSD
eager kite
It's pro-consumer to sell the car with the feature removed
dense shard
There was no reason to remove it.
eager kite
and no it wasn't paid for
dense shard
Yes. it was.
eager kite
nope
dense shard
yep
eager kite
original owner never paid for it, was thrown in for free
dense shard
Then keep it free.
eager kite
dealer never paid for it, car was sold to him for lower price
dense shard
It was added gratis.
If it was originally free, why charge for it?
Sounds like a scam to me.
eager kite
new owner never paid for it, got scammed $8k by dealer
eager kite
it's pro consumer to remove it and sell car for lower price
dense shard
not really
eager kite
yea really
eager kite
gives more consumers the ability to get the car
dense shard
It should be a free option to bring it back.
Why would you pay for an option that came free originally?
dense shard
bullshit
eager kite
and, car was returned within a week
dense shard
Once it is added, it should never be removed.
dense shard
And you certainly shouldn't charge for a feature implemented.
It's anti-consumer to DLC feature that were installed for free on a car.
It's a scam.
Pure and simple.
eager kite
It's anti consumer to force people to pay for features they don't want
dense shard
Nothing was paid for tho.
It was a free option, you said it.
Then Tesla removed a free option, to charge 8k for it.
scaaaaam
eager kite
sure, so nothing wrong with tesla selling the car without it
dense shard
Not relevant.
eager kite
Tesla didn't increase cost of car tho
dense shard
What is relevant is the option on this car came in for free.
And Tesla decided to charge for an option that was free.
eager kite
Dealer didn't pay any extra for car
dense shard
We don't know that.
eager kite
yes we do
dense shard
It was an auction.
eager kite
nope
dense shard
Unless you have a monroy sheet to link me?
eager kite
feature was removed before auction
dense shard
prove it
eager kite
eager kite
work order proves it
dense shard
The federally required window sheet.
Link me that.
Otherwise I'm going to assume Tesla is lying.
dense shard
They have a history of lying.
eager kite
your point got debunked
eager kite
you can continue to hold to a debunked view because you hate tesla
but any rational person would accept the evidence and move on
dense shard
your tesla hate
You are full of shit.
Where do I hate Tesla?
hmmmmm?
If you are going to accuse me of something, please back it up with facts.
And link the car's federally mandated sheet.
eager kite
no point in discussing anything further with a bad faith actor such as yourself
gl bud
dense shard
bad faith
Says the person who writes off any not positive news as fake.
The person who accuses of others of hate.
eager kite
blocked message counter keeps going up...
dense shard
lol, plus one it is.
fathom socket
Stands back and surveys the wreckage
dense shard
How's it look?
fathom socket
Not great
dense shard
lol
What's your take on an automaker removing a feature from a car that had it installed in factory?
eager kite
I don't get why you guys want tesla to be anti-consumer, but then criticize it for being anti-consumer...
fathom socket
Like Aerial said, it could be just that dealer.
eager kite
like 
dense shard
Could be.
But there's no evidence.
At this point I think it would be fairly shitty of us to dismiss the dealer out of hand. They're not all bad.
And I'm sure Tesla approves the dealers that attend their auction.
fathom socket
I agree that it's a lie until Aerial can produce the federal sheet
eager kite
now just trying to save face
dense shard
kindly stop responding to me if you have me blocked, thank you
eager kite
no one has come forth with the federal sheet so it's impossible to prove
neither Tesla nor the dealer
fathom socket
Demand it
eager kite
people have
fathom socket
It's not their car
dense shard
Tesla is required by law to provide a sheet.
eager kite
has yet to be produced
dense shard
tsk tsk
eager kite
trust me, if it was out there I would be the first to show it
fathom socket
Screw you Tesla dealer
eager kite
the current evidence we have is that FSD was removed close to a month before the dealer sold it to a new customer
per the work order log
fathom socket
Also @eager kite, I never was criticizing Tesla as a whole. They are not managed well, so you have stuff like this happen.
eager kite
This is standard Tesla policy of removing paid software options like FSD, so that new customers don't have to pay for the car with it in case they don't want it
and the cost of the car does not include that option
fathom socket
Not ragging on Tesla for being a shitty, scammy company.
eager kite
in the case that the customer does want it, either at purchase or years down the line, they can order it at any time
literally a pro-consumer move by Tesla, allowing people to not pay for a software feature they don't want
dense shard
I'm just happy Toyota won't remove any features from my car when/if I ever sell it.
eager kite
Like imagine if in order to get Windows you had to pay for all adobe products, and there was no way to opt out of it
fathom socket
Does the car sale sheet say that it came with feature?
eager kite
people would not be happy with Microsoft for it
nowhere on the inventory page or the individual car listings does it say they come with FSD
they all come with AP standard
Like idk what you guys are smoking, but it would literally be anti-consumer for Tesla to force people to pay a higher price for the car just because the previous owner chose to add FSD to it.
It's a pro-consumer move to lower the purchase price of the car and remove FSD with the option of adding it at any time. Allows people to buy the car without paying for a feature they don't want, and allows them to buy it at any time if they do want it.
fathom socket
Haha!
What I've been smoking
I've been smoking tires
JK
I don't do burnouts
Very often
I do own a mechanic shop
So, I've inhaled many different smells and chemicals.
dense shard
I guess that answers that question?
dense shard
oh, I thought the question was only what we're huffing, not any potential side effects.
fathom socket
Ah
dense shard
I had an older sedan run rich next to me at a red light today.
So I've got some dino juice in my lungs.
dense shard
Had a super nice drive today.
I love cooler weather. I swear it makes my engine feel just a tiny bit peppier.
normal temple
Yo what we smoking
normal temple
I like smoking CELs
stoic ledge
It's a VW, you'll get plenty 
stoic ledge
Only flashing light I ever got was the TC light after unleasing all 83hp to the tarmac
indigo coral
I've never had flashing lights
Don't have TC and only had CEL once that was just an error thingy
dense shard
I have flashing lights often enough in the rain.
manual starts up steep hills sometime leads to a bit of tire spin
patent basalt
Am I the only one who loves avalanches?
civic girder
On this server, there's a good chance
I'm quite late, but that stuff about getting in trouble for driving certain cars, I'd be pissed.
rolls up in the RX-7
interview gets cancelled for driving a "beater"
Says: "ok, fine. I don't want to work at a company that assumes I can't afford a brand new car just because I'm not driving one anyways."
If I got that while already working at a company, then I'd put in my two week. Fuck that. I'm not going to work at a company that discriminates me and assumes things that are 200% false just because the car I drive is greater than 10 years old and/or looks like its not in the greatest shape.
It's like that one old saying they tell you as a kid: "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything."
Unless I'm friends with someone (and close enough to know their ability to take a joke), I'm not gonna just tell someone their car "just looks bad." I'd joke with them and we'd laugh about how its a beater/shitbox.
The only scenario where I'd seriously tell someone their car is actual shit, is where they ask me for an honest opinion on the car (brand new, or used, doesn't matter). Or, they're a complete asshole (a ricer, for example) and I'm pissed about how haughty and arrogant they are being while obnoxiously showing off their rusty ass Civic with tasteless, useless, and shitty mods.
dusty warren
that holds up in the uk too
dusty warren
my friend owns a 67 vw campervan, has the whole rat/rust look going on and he got denied from a carpentry job because “his van wasn’t up to spec for carrying tools”
civic spoke
indigo coral
@dense shard regards to last night, yeah they pull your credit quite often. If you've got shitty credit it's gonna be wayyy harder to get a job
carmine summit
If somewhere is going to discriminate based on cars chances are it's not somewhere I'd want to work
"oh you're financially responsible and don't drive a new car every year on a lease? Maybe you're commiting fraud" is ridiculous
indigo coral
idk there's nothing wrong with a 2005 camry
If a 2005 Camry is inappropriate guess I should push my car off a cliff since it's a '99 :P
civic girder
"not up to spec for carrying tools"
The fuck does that mean? It's a van!
But yea, probs good for him tho. Probably would've hated it there if they had hired him
@carmine summit
Yea, imo it's a stupid, baseless claim. If anything, driving cheap used cars makes you more financially stable because you're not pouring tons of money into new cars all the time or not even owning a car at all if you are leasing.
It's a really rude and roundabout way of telling someone they should change their behavior because you hate the fact that they think and act differently than you do.
indigo coral
Gotta sue the government cause they're discriminating against me by failing my car in inspection. /s 😂😂😂😂😂😂
civic girder
what inspection
dense shard
To be fair... a 60s VW van really might be inadequate for tool carrying.
indigo coral
I don't have one thankfully
civic girder
Yea, #USA
indigo coral
Cause my car would 100% fail
dense shard
It sounds like an insurance liability.
indigo coral
lots of USA places have them Eastman
dense shard
But why not have a company van?
civic girder
oh, p sure both my cars would fail, lmao
civic girder
as long as it has space that is physically larger than the tools and your insurance covers it
its adaquate
dense shard
Carry a few big guys, plus several hundred pounds in tools?
dense shard
Well... whatever works.
indigo coral
The suspension was completely collapsed in back
Bumper dragging
Seriously
like wow
dense shard
Frankly it's not the state of the car, but the attention given to it.
A clean car is the same as wearing a tie to an interview.
But cleanliness has nothing to do with age of the car.
dense shard
lol
civic girder
gray hides a dirty car exceptionally well
dense shard
Honestly I'm more concerned about the amount of burger king wrappers in the car.
civic girder
Even when I first got the RX-7 (15 years of dust), it didn't look that bad
You'd hate my car then, Monte
I have a ton of BK receipts on the floor
indigo coral
No burger king wrappers in my car, lots of pencils tho
dense shard
clean it yo
indigo coral
Like dozens
civic girder
I don't keep wrappers and shit, but receipts, I have a problem
indigo coral
I always wear a hoodie, and so pencils go in the pouch pocket when I'm done w/ them
civic girder
I need to dust the dash in both my cars.
indigo coral
Then I get in the car and the seat belt doesn't work great w/ the pencils in my pocket
So they go in the center console drawer thing
....and yeah
I never remember to take them out
civic girder
I think the space behind and underneath the passenger seat in the RX-7 is filled with receipts
indigo coral
oof
civic girder
and the passenger side floor of the Prius is littered with receipts
indigo coral
I've not been to burger King for a long time
civic girder
I just had BK for lunch
indigo coral
wow
I get sick if I eat fast food too much
And this week I've been eating wayyy less so I can catch up on hours in my aligners
civic girder
It's a running gag at work that I get BK every day. It's a false statement, but a great meme
dense shard
lol
civic girder
my coworkers are great, tbh
we give each other shit all the time and joke about pretty much everything
indigo coral
my coworkers don't exist
stoic ledge
Me with literally every co-worker ever be like ^^^
indigo coral
civic girder
It's too bad I'm going to have to be working at another place for a while tho
So I'll only get to hang out with them and bullshit in the office only a few times a month
I hope my next office environment can be like that one
The people in that office are pretty diverse too. Walk over to one side, talk about cars. Walk to the other side and talk about PCs.
or get a mix of both
indigo coral
Lol
Idk where I want to get a job
I need ye old $$ tho
no skills and no education tho 😂
civic girder
Internships dog
indigo coral
I said I need money xD
civic girder
I still gotta fix up my resume a bit and then start yeeting it. I need to get a job quick. I want to start saving up in earnest for a house, and the PC and car projects that come after
paid internships exist, you just gotta look
and worst case scenario, unpaid does give you the experience you need to get paid
indigo coral
I'm concerned I've become ineligible for entry level positions, since I'll be 18 in a few days and still haven't gotten a job lmao.
civic girder
Internships are an adult/college thing.
If anything, you're becoming more eligible for them
indigo coral
Many of my peers have been working for 2 yrs while I've not been. That being said, I've focused on school and whatnot and will be graduating w/ associates+HS diploma and moving straight into Uni
woeful carbon
Bye bye old turd I’ll miss you
civic girder
My little brother's friends can barely afford what most would consider fairly cheap work/mods for their beater rice-mobiles
indigo coral
I don't plan to work at McDonald's or something, I feel like I can do better than that
civic girder
Yep. And with zero other work experience, internships are your only option.
Cause if you had worked somewhere before, that might give you some help in getting hired to a legit position
indigo coral
I've considered putting in an app to a phone store or something
civic girder
Though I'm not telling you you can't try to skip internships
just saying it will be difficult to do so
woeful carbon
indigo coral
we ought to prob switch to c&p before mods ban is lol @civic girder
civic girder
oh yea, true
woeful carbon
Perfectly running car that the insurance company decided to total gg
civic girder
🤔
woeful carbon
Night of the accident 
civic girder
I'm highly confused by these 0.03 second clips of video showing no accident afaik
woeful carbon
Ya the settings I had on my phone’s camera were a tad off the clips where are my mistake
All the damage was minimal from medium to small dents and the loss of a mirror
civic girder
what happened?
woeful carbon
I was on my way home from work and a older gentleman cut a guy off in the middle lane and side swiped me both parts are ok
woeful carbon
Not necessarily they gave me more then what I payed for that car so I’m happy
civic girder
wow, your insurance is really dumb then
woeful carbon
But ya it sucks to lose that car had it since I was 16
civic girder
they coulda saved a lot of money by just paying for at most some new doors/fenders/panels and a new mirror
minor dents tho could prolly just use a dent remover
woeful carbon
All of the dents apart from the door could of been removed
woeful carbon
It’s ok just got to look for a new daily now
civic girder
yea
This is why I'm gonna keep my Prius when I get a new car
hell, even when I get a new car I'll probably drive the Prius still
if the Prius or new car get wrecked and/or totaled, I'll still have something to take me to work
woeful carbon
Same I’m driving my weekend car but not something I want to keep driving on the streets
civic girder
I know that pain
woeful carbon
One speed bump I’m stuck
civic girder
I rear-ended somebody a few months back in my daily and had to drive my fun car on salty roads ):
woeful carbon
Ya that’s never fun
civic girder
Luckily the damage wasn't too bad.
woeful carbon
Salt or even snowy roads suck
civic girder
Hood, bumper, radiator, radiator support, oil cooler, a/c condenser, headlight assemblies (the plastic mounts on the old ones snapped), hood latch, and horn
that's the list of what had to get replaced
can’t think of words to say
civic girder
Yea, hitting SUVs is not fun
oh yea, and even better was that my fun car's fuel pump died the same week, so I had to borrow my friend's van
woeful carbon
When a tree just gets to close
civic girder
yikes
civic girder
Pic of the damage, that was the day I took her to the shop. Van in the background is what I had to drive for a few days
civic girder
She's back strong tho, and almost at 100k miles now.
stoic ledge
OOF
civic girder
Hope your next daily treats you well
woeful carbon
Same just looking at the moment not in a rush
But wow the Prius is looking good now
woeful carbon
As for cars/ _ I don’t care much of what it looks like or how fast it is if it gets me to work school and home I’m happy
civic girder
I care about 3 things in a car:
-I like the way it looks
-I like the way it drives
-I like the way it sounds
everything else is irrelevant
civic girder
except for maybe repairability/maintenance and some minor qol things
woeful carbon
Fair enough idk this new daily I was looking at the Toyota Camry hatchback
lethal garnet
the new one?
woeful carbon
The year I was looking at was 2019 to 2020
civic girder
wait, there's a Camry hatchback?
woeful carbon
The blue looks nice on the Corollas
woeful carbon
Its ether get a new daily or put the money towards my broken FD
woeful carbon
Blow the apex seals on her
I could but there not really daily cars unless you put a lot of funds into keeping the Rotary engine cooled
Unless you plan on staying stock
dense shard
yeah Corolla hatchback is great, but a Camry 5 door today would have been sweet imo.
stoic ledge
Get a Corolla Touring Sports
https://www.dezaak.nl/beelden/1200AlbertMensingaCorollaP41764931.jpg
stoic ledge
Also save up enough to rebuild the engine every 60k miles xD
dense shard
I've love a Touring Sport, but the US doesn't get the nifty wagon.
stoic ledge
dense shard
For the best tbh. I'd hate to have to decide between a hybrid hatchback and a manual one.
Adding a touring... oof
civic girder
For a daily, hybrid all the way
stoic ledge
High output Hybrid + Touring = most car you'll actually ever need probably
ocean shoal
kinda want a rav4 prime
indigo coral
v8 corolla when @dense shard
ocean shoal
never thought toyota would start shifting towards performance with thrit hybrids
dense shard
Dunno about performance tbh, but newer Toyotas are certainly spicier than previous generations. A huge yay since it'll push other automakers to try harder.
I'm still surprised I ended up with a Corolla.
carmine summit
If you want a manual daily I'd suggest VW, and not just because I really like VW
VW still offers most of what they sell with a manual transmission
be it a manual AWD wagon or a manual FWD hatch they have it
dense shard
Problem is that the VWs I'd want have been discontinued.
And the Jetta's manual only comes in the base trim... GLI is a bit rich for my tastes.
same for the GTI, and I'm not a huge fan of small displacement turbo engines.
jagged coyote
(again)
stoic ledge
same for the GTI, and I'm not a huge fan of small displacement turbo engines.
presents Ford's 1.0 I3 with 155hp
dense shard
yeah that's a hard skip for me tbh.
small displacement engines tend to be run hard in bigger cars.
stoic ledge
I agree
indigo coral
like my RX
stoic ledge
No falcon, no
indigo coral
s M A L L
oh yeah side note - I literally cna't make the dashcam say hard accel OR hard brake
stoic ledge
But irl, I see downsized 1.4 Turbo's here getting beasically the same fuel economy IRL compared to 2.0 N/A engines with the same HP
indigo coral
apparently my car is just bad
ecks
I took it down some twisties on the way home today, pushing it a bit
punching out/hard braking in, then floored it down a straigh away (not impressive)
stil said 0
xd
fair bronze
The only upside about a 1.4T is that it has more torque when the boost kicks in
indigo coral
i could probably make it go off if it was in my moms car kek
stoic ledge
Yes that was one massive typo, don't blame me xD
indigo coral
that one actually has some moderate acceleration cred
fair bronze
We're not really used to fast cars anymore here
indigo coral
honestly, I'm a bit surprised how well my car does with "sporty" driving for what it is
the transmission seems to respond better when you're actively using 3/4 of the gears
stoic ledge
In cold weather, my dashcam 🔋still does funny stuff... But since it's getting warmer again.... I'll probably get a new one after the next summer xD
fair bronze
Did you ever fix that weird rattling sound, falcon?
I don't remember
@stoic ledge Don't you have one with a capacitor instead of a battery?
stoic ledge
Nein, it has a battery
indigo coral
which, the one that sounds like rod knock?
fair bronze
Yeah
indigo coral
it fucking went away
fair bronze
It did?
stoic ledge
Has been fine for 3 years, but now it's acting weird
And yeah, I knew that xD But 3 years ago all capacitor dashcams were really bad quality for the price of this one or super expensive
fair bronze
That's super strange
fair bronze
Ah you've had your dashcam for longer
indigo coral
so I can expect it in a few more months I guess
stoic ledge
Since late 2016, yeah
indigo coral
so yeah i have no fucking idea what is going on w. that
fair bronze
Can't be too bad then
indigo coral
¯_(ツ)_/¯
occasionally the car seems to shudder but i dunno what that is either
when i give it a bit of gas it stops
so
seems to happen more after coasting
for a while
I've never had it happen when I was actually loading teh engine
fair bronze
My grandma came to me yesterday saying the car was vibrating and buzzing the day after we took it to the garage for maintenance
But of course, it went away when she drove to me
indigo coral
the rod knock noise persisted long enough for my dad to come see it that night
which im glad about
because now its not just my paranoid blabbering
but yeah I've put hundreds of miles on the car since then (if not a couple thousand) and its been fine
indigo coral
i also found the source of my exhaust leak
and its easy as hell to fix
just a gasket
fair bronze
Easy
indigo coral
it doesnt make the noise when I rev it in neutral/park
fair bronze
Small leak
indigo coral
but I suspect thats because the engine isnt torquing as much
since its not loaded
when the engine torques in the mounts id assume a bigger hole opens up
fair bronze
Ah yeah it needs to build pressure
indigo coral
because it only audibly happens when the engine is loaded
fair bronze
Makes sense
indigo coral
starting frop a stop, up a hill slowly, etc
but yeah ez fix
which is appreciated xD
i still need to do rotors and pads too
stoic ledge
Who needs brakes am I right
indigo coral
well they work
rotors are just warped as all hell
and they're all warped differently, so the car shakes like a mfer when youre stopping from 60 with light braking
stoic ledge
Oof
fair bronze
Brakes are useless, just put it in reverse
indigo coral
like if you really step on the brakes it doesn't shake as much because theres less room for play
but if you're lightly braking it shakes like crazy
so yes i need new ones
stoic ledge
Reverse?
https://youtu.be/ARJENV0qGdY
fair bronze
oof mastermilo
indigo coral
i'm not going to test the theory in my car, but I know our fords are idiot proof
thanks to autovlog
trying it in his fusion
fair bronze
Seeing any car get abused hurts me deep inside
stoic ledge
True, I agree
fair bronze
But oh well
stoic ledge
It also makes me sad when perfectly fine cars get scrapped :/
fair bronze
Yeah
stoic ledge
I actually think the Astra in the video has a similar gearbox is my Corsa Gotta check the type
fair bronze
This dude I'm subscribed to works on a junkyard, he gets all kinds of cars
https://www.youtube.com/user/MXguy95
Many of them just need a bit of work but look fine
Sometimes I'm amazed what people throw away
stoic ledge
Yeah an older version, F13 where mines F13+
fair bronze
Hey so you can try it too
stoic ledge
Oof gonna check him out soon ^^
Lol no, I'd like to use my car for a couple of years xD
And then sell it in driving condition
stoic ledge
indigo coral
only good cars = south korean cars and japanese cars
indigo coral
i fixed it
stoic ledge
Opel is the most reliable German brand
indigo coral
well the explorer and taurus are fine but mostly just cause the ecoboost engine is good
fair bronze
💯
indigo coral
interior and tech is mediocre especially considering they were over 60k new
the explorer doesn't even have adaptive cruise
taurus does tho
indigo coral
wat really?
stoic ledge
About it missing or about me retrofitting it? xD
indigo coral
you retrofitting it
i read that its impossible 😮
cause i looked into it for both the Stinger GTS and the Explorer
stoic ledge
Nope, just Change out the indicator stalk + check a checkbox in the cars ECU
indigo coral
so it has the radar and cameras already? 🤔
stoic ledge
Imagine having cameras in a 2011/2012 car
indigo coral
well thats why i was like wtf
stoic ledge
xD
indigo coral
i'm glad mine has cruise
stoic ledge
Don't really miss it... But I really should fit it
It's on the Indicator stalk, not the best position imho
stoic ledge
I keep postponing it
fair bronze
lmao
I read that all else that you need is a sensor at the pedals
Something like that
stoic ledge
Yeah that's already in place
fair bronze
Nice
fair bronze
You'd wonder why they don't just give them all cruise control as standard
Another way to make more money I guess
fair bronze
Yeah that too
stoic ledge
https://tech2.guru/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/corsa-stalk.jpg
Not the best system
fair bronze
Better than nothing I guess
stoic ledge
Exactly
fair bronze
These are a bit easier to operate I think
fair bronze
stoic ledge
Yeah
indigo coral
mines its own independent stalk
stoic ledge
For some reason, the Corsa D indicator stalk always returns to center even when active
Very strange at first
fair bronze
Like a BMW?
fair bronze
Do you have to push it the same direction as well to cancel it?
fair bronze
That was so confusing when I drove a BMW for the first time lol
Ah so just a small tap in the other direction
fair bronze
Easy to accidentally push too far though
fair bronze
Probably because you're used to it 😛
stoic ledge
True
I like the fact it doesn't slam back when you're done taking a corner xD
But they only used this system on the Corsa, nothing else
I've no idea why xD
fair bronze
I get that 😄
stoic ledge
Nice
carmine summit
yeah I drove an F150 around at work all summer and it's strange
took some getting used to
civic girder
My dad's Fusion is the only car I've ever driven (afaik) that has the return to center kind
it especially bothers me that turning on the brights also returns to center
the turn signals bother me less so
well, I lied. The sound of the Ford turn signal drives me insane
tho, so does a lot of other noises in modern Fords
dense shard
I have lane keep assist turned off for around town trips.
civic girder
lane keep would probably make me want to just crash into a tree, ngl
civic girder
Yea, probs. Would highly depend on how much it lets me drift within the lane
civic girder
Cause I have to activate my Pothole Avoidance System a lot on certain roads around here
especially the one gigantic pothole on one of the bridges on the highway
dense shard
I don't remember dodging issues.
carmine summit
yeah pothole avoidance is important, there's a spot near my house where a lot of trucks turn and the road is in terrible shape
civic girder
The Prius can barely avoid that pothole without crossing into the next lane, but the RX-7 can do it ezpz
but if you hit that pothole
RIP suspension and tires
there used to also be a small, but nasty, pothole on the exit ramp, but they patched it and its less lethal to suspension now
that highway pothole they have attempted to patch around 8 times now, since I started driving
it always gets bad
dense shard
They could just repave that stretch of road.
carmine summit
repaving small sections of road isn't economically feasible
the cost of getting all the equipment there and paying for the labour and materials is only worth it for large sections of road, think of the cost like a linear equation with a really big y intercept and a really small slope
costs a lot no matter what, but 10 miles doesn't cost very much more than 1 mile
dense shard
I don't really care for the costs to the city/state.
Especially since me replacing rims every other weekly is far less economically feasible.
A pothole on an highway ramp is a safety hazard.
I'm still amazed Birmingham was able to find a company to rebuild the 20/59 overpass, do it well, and do it ahead of schedule.
flint sable
civic girder
@dense shard the exit ramp one is small enough to avoid easily. And it's in a position on the lane that you'd have to be a total idiot or completely ignorant/distracted to actually hit
dense shard
Distractions happen to even the best of us.
unreal terrace
Oil per minute? :P
civic girder
same difference, lmfao
civic girder
almost legal for catalytic converter removal in Ohio
or perfectly legal if you live in my county
dense shard
cool
eager kite
dense shard
@indigo coral https://www.caranddriver.com/features/columns/a30145192/genesis-g90-grille/ for when you win the lottery.
You can put it next to the G70.
dense shard
It just looks comically oversized.
Peak Grill.
Lexus at least styles their grills, and Acura has the oversized badged in their oversized grill thing going for them.
This... this is just... oof
It's BMW bad.
night current
It looks like a chunky American going in for a big bite of a burger
indigo coral
Yuck I don't like the G90 styling
dense shard
It's a very pogey grill.
dense shard
to be totally fair.
The manual in the US is only available on the bottom rung car.
Which... according to Savage Geese is likely a good thing.
eager kite
stoic ledge
carmine summit
ooh
dusty warren
just get a golf R
carmine summit
I mean yeah but this is still cool
dusty warren
unreal terrace
Skóda > VW
Lmao I trolled a co-worker into buying sparkplugs for his Opel diesle 🤣
carmine summit
Skoda has some neat offerings, so does SEAT
Unfortunately we don't get any of them here
vague perch
When it just would be so easy
I want a Seat Leon instead of a Golf because the Golf is so boring, literally 10 % of the German popularity has a Golf
carmine summit
I have a friend in Germany that bought an EK hatch instead of a Golf because Golfs are really common
He then proceeded to modify said Civic for autocross but he totalled it
He now has another one that's lower and more of a stance car
vague perch
Hm I need a car that is practically and a Civic isn't it imo
stoic ledge
Get a Focus or Astra wagon
fair bronze
The Leon is really nice to drive too
fathom socket
I wonder if Monte_Carlo is still blocked by Aerial for saying what Tesla did was bad 😂
fair bronze
But Tesla never does anything bad
eager kite
(never actually blocked him, was just done talking with someone like that)
dense shard
Also fuck yeah GRolla
Too bad it'll likely never come to the US... but
At least I'll be able to buy suspension bits and make my 'rolla into a nice warm hatch.
stoic ledge
Yes
dense shard
Man... UK doesn't even offer a manual transmission as an option.
stoic ledge
It's a small turbocharged engine tho, so you probably wouldn't havr wanted it
1.2 Turbo is a manual?
At least in 🇳🇱 it is
stoic ledge
Oof
dense shard
1.8 or 2.0 engines.
dense shard
I wish the US got the 2.0 hybrid.
Maybe when the Prius is finally killed off.
Can't even option the white interior.
stoic ledge
In the UK or US?
dense shard
But yeah. GR Corolla's tiny engine isn't a huge attraction to me if I'm honest.
In the UK no white interior.
US still has it. I own it.
stoic ledge
I'll see if 🇳🇱 gets it
Yeah I 'member, but maybe they discontinued it that's why I asked xD
dense shard
ah, I see. Well... uhhh not yet?
lol
Honestly. The Corolla options are having a fairly high take rate. Manual transmission in the US is about 15-20% take rate. I imagine the white interior might be higher.
stoic ledge
Nope no white interior here either
stoic ledge
All available seats
Not much I assume, since it's already quite powerfull for an I3 engine lol
dense shard
1.6 3 cylinder making 260ish horsepower sounds like it's pretty much at the end of it's potential.
stoic ledge
Exactly
dense shard
well... I will say this much.
US doesn't get brown seats options.
Or all the nifty seat patterns.
Or a panoramic sunroof.
stoic ledge
I don't know it's here either... The brochure says Optional on the Premium trim but there's no premium trim in the configurator
xD
Ah maybe as TS
Yeah as TS, you can get the Premium trim
Only € 42.245,00, does come with the 2.0 Hybrid as standard tho
Brown leather is a free option on the Premium trim, but only changes the seats: all other interior pieces remain the same
dense shard
oh, lame
Also I just found out Toyota sells a dash cam kit as an option in Japan.
I kinda wanna import that.
stoic ledge
Ok the Premium trim comes standard with some fancy 18" wheels, but I can upgrade it to:
- 16": €1181
- 17": €1577
- 17": €1695
- 18": €1827
- 16" steelies: €488
- 17" black: €1630
Why would you ever do that? xD
Oof official dashcam kit, buy it
dense shard
If I can find it and import it, sure.
stoic ledge
It's not in the accessories list here sadly enough :/
dense shard
In this day and age.
It should be everywhere imo.
Especially since Toyota offers driver tracking for insurance discounts.
Why not offer a dash cam as well?
dense shard
Considering most modern cars already have cameras... might as well include it.
stoic ledge
It's the same cam which is also used to read the roadsigns and keep it between the lines
stoic ledge
Hack the system and create your own software to use it as a dashcam
PZQ8533270 is not the kit you're looking for, is it?
Because if it is, it's just a seperate dashcam branded by Toyota, and doubled it's price
stoic ledge
Then I'd recommend getting a Viofo A129 or something like that, better image quality for half the price 🙃
dense shard
I'm looking at an Anker that costs half of even that.
stoic ledge
Which one?
dense shard
stoic ledge
Doesn't look too shabby, looks quite similar to my Xiaomi Yi
dense shard
I'm not a huge fan of adhesive mounts.
dense shard
Still... GR sport and full fat GR Corolla means I can theoretically get OEM suspension bits and potentially shifter bushings to make my car that tiny bit more sporty.
stoic ledge
I didn't like the suction mount, after a month it falls off xD
dense shard
I've never had issues with suction cups tbh.
And with the Alabama heat I experience, I don't trust glues to hold on forever.
stoic ledge
I have no idea how warm it is in Alabama xD
dense shard
35+C average in the summer.
dense shard
ah, had to double check, but apparently the Corolla GR Sport is just a body kit. Go figure. I'll have to wait for a full fat GR or TRD model before I can justify suspension upgrades.
civic girder
nah
I started it and warmed it up, did some revs
Can't drive cause of the salty af roads
and then the cover went back on ):
oh wait, I'm dumb, I should probably check the oil later
civic girder
eh, can't be bothered to take the cover back off. I'll just check the oil before the next time I start it up
Hmmm. Listening back to the clips, seems like my alternator belts might be loosening again
I doubt its the A/C belt, that's never caused a problem. Except the old A/C belt that was so old and stretched that you couldn't possibly tension it anymore than it already was
well, to be fair, I didn't drive the car. So the belts might just be doing a cold belt thing
So I guess I'll find out when finally get to drive it again. Screech? break out the pry bar and yeet that alternator and tension them belts
carmine summit
@dense shard yeah the average temp here in the summer is just over 30 C
I've seen 40 Celsius before, it was hot
I've also seen -40, it was cold
dense shard
I hate 40C days.
carmine summit
Yeah it sucks, I used to do corn detasseling (hybrid corn pollenation control but it's all broke high school students getting scammed) and it got up to 38 Celsius a few times every summer
I have a city job every summer now and a lot of it is driving around in an air conditioned pickup truck. It's nice. Some of it is standing out in the sun weed whacking for hours but there's usually shade.
eager kite
stoic ledge
Source?
civic girder
Yea, I'm pressing X on some of those
If I want real range numbers on the Model X, I can go ask my neighbor who actually owns one
unreal terrace
Gale Banks intensifies
civic girder
I mean, a Mazda is a machine of Japanese origin which converts fuel into blown out apex seals
the best things are always the guiltiest pleasures
rotary engines are black magic and unreliable
but god damn, they're sicc
stoic ledge
Wanker wankel engines 
night current
Brapapapapapapa
indigo coral
careful mk, the jackass bot will prob mute you
night current
^
Considering it gets mad at you for simply talking about a controversial virus, something like that could get you a life time ban!
indigo coral
Cornyvirus?
civic girder
I got censored when I tried to send a message about a joke one of my friends makes about the RX-7 every time he sees it
dense shard
Oof
civic girder
something about xank power and xanks per minute
stoic ledge
Oof
I think this has been posted before, but relevant:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438484168373043200/673503783791099906/4538yfomlhe41.jpg
Inb4 the bot can recognize text in images
jagged coyote
yeah i remember seing it somewhere
stoic ledge
Oof alebret suited up too
jagged coyote
but since i'm in 2 servers with a car channel idk
yeah relevent since i was sick at the start of the week
stoic ledge
Oof yikes
jagged coyote
but mine is better, it's a gif 
stoic ledge
Imagine paying for Nitro xD
jagged coyote
meh it's only $5
stoic ledge
That's 200km of fuel 
jagged coyote
I also pay for spotify but with a student discount 
stoic ledge
Reeeeeeeeeeeeee
jagged coyote
anyways, now i ain't sick, and the road are so freakin slippery since the storm
stoic ledge
Idk where that came from
jagged coyote
i'm betting 2 screens and you thought you were on another where you are talking dutch
stoic ledge
Yes xD
jagged coyote
yeah happens to me too
stoic ledge
I was kinda confused by it xD
And not even regular Dutch, but a dialect, to make it less understandable
I don't pay for Spotify or whatever, I got a VPN
😛
stoic ledge
indigo coral
lol
civic girder
dense shard
oof
indigo coral
lmao
fathom socket
Lol
I've had many BMW'S come into my shop
It's either engine or electrical problems
indigo coral
I really really wish the E60 M5 was at least some sort of reliable
I'd totally get one if it were, but unfortunately it's not
normal temple
It is tho, its just the owners that are dumb
indigo coral
E60 5 series is the best looking 5er ever
fathom socket
My dads Chevy Cruze can't figure out what gear it's in
indigo coral
neither can my car
indigo coral
oof
fathom socket
Nuetral safety switch is my guess
indigo coral
When I try and pass someone in a hurry, occasionally it'll try and drop down to 2nd, then up to 3rd, down to 2nd, up to 3rd, etc in quick succession.
Just has to jump back into 4th, then try and go again and it'll work better
fathom socket
It literally thinks it's in gear when it's in park
fathom socket
Had to unplug the battery
dense shard
I understand a lot of cars have an override.
Hold for a few seconds or stab at the button.
indigo coral
^
fathom socket
It doesn't work
dense shard
weird
dense shard
Especially after the Toyota fiasco.
indigo coral
^
fathom socket
This all happened at 3:00 AM
indigo coral
I'm sure there's an override
indigo coral
when our Five Hundred got rear ended it wouldn't turn off
so my dad had to start pulling shit from the engine bay
fathom socket
There was literally no thought process at that point
Besides, don't let the battery die
I just wanted to go home and sleep
dense shard
i'm a bit surprised GM didn't include an override.
They had their own fiasco with keys and whatever.
indigo coral
They did.
"If the vehicle cannot be pulled over, and must be shut off while driving, press and hold the engine START/ STOP button for longer than two seconds, or press twice in five seconds.
fathom socket
I tried that
indigo coral
got it from the Cruze owners manual
fathom socket
Then again, I had not slept for the last two days
Right now I'm replacing a power steering hose on a 2012 Chevy Equinox
indigo coral
I'd never buy a GM car personally, save for the Volt or ELR.
dense shard
Damn well better. I don't have fond memories of the Cavalier.
indigo coral
Interior quality and reliability are not American strong suits.
If you want those, go Korean or Japanese.
fathom socket
I also just got done doing new valve stem seals on a 2007 Camry
indigo coral
Compare it to an American car at the equivalent price.
fathom socket
The reliability factor for GM has gone up a lot in the last 5 years
dense shard
There aren't any.
Ford has killed or is killing their cars.
GM is following closely behind.
fathom socket
@indigo coral Have you been in a new Ford car?
indigo coral
We own two recent Fords
fathom socket
The interiors are excellent