cars

[indigo coral]

not a huge fan of LS mostly cause its just hellishly overdone

[midnight cradle]

rotaries > LS

[fathom socket]

Yeah

[midnight cradle]

rotaries are the best just because of how weird and stupid they are

[fathom socket]

There are too many LS swaps

[midnight cradle]

i found this company that makes 225cc rotaries and i really want one but they dont list a price

they say "inquire by booking an in person consultation at our london office"

and basically that means a single engine is probably over 10k

[indigo coral]

oh boy

thats one of those "if you have to ask, you can't afford it"

type things

[midnight cradle]

it's not even that good

40bhp

they also have a 650cc one

[fathom socket]

https://media.tenor.com/images/e7da4169896ea82c94439d7db0b8104f/tenor.gif

[midnight cradle]

mazda's doing a 600cc rotary range extender

so hopefully someone will figure out how to rip those out and build a go kart

my end goal is an autozam az1 with a rotary

[fathom socket]

So, you want an az1 with a dorito engine?

[civic girder]

that's really easy actually

get an AZ1

get any rotary engine ever

get a custom single rotor eccentric shaft

[dense shard]

Dunno if I'd swap an AZ-1.

[civic girder]

build a single rotor engine

ezpz

[dense shard]

The F6A is a brilliant little engine.

[civic girder]

yea, tbh

[dense shard]

If I had to swap it. I'd just do a K6A swap. Same engine, but not iron.

[civic girder]

the only way I'd put a rotary in an AZ1 is if I bought one without a motor or one with a dead motor

[dense shard]

K6A has massive potential even then.

[fathom socket]

Ya could go with an LS and get,
https://media.tenor.com/images/e7da4169896ea82c94439d7db0b8104f/tenor.gif

JK

[dense shard]

Remember. Kei car regulations limit the engines to 64 horsepower.

[fathom socket]

Rotaries are cool

[civic girder]

and I'd definitely go single rotary, a 2 rotor would be too much for one of those tiny bois

[dense shard]

But you could easily tune it for more.

Apparently Caterham sells a kit with the 3 popper, and those are tuned to 90 horsepower.

[fathom socket]

I wouldn't mind having a car that has a dorito

[civic girder]

yes

join us

[fathom socket]

I want one

But don't have the money

[civic girder]

They are really simple to work on

[dense shard]

If I get a rotary, it'll be in a Mazda MX-30.

[civic girder]

ok, fair, they can be expensive

I want an MX-30 real bad

[fathom socket]

I've wanted one for a while

[dense shard]

It's an EV made with me in mind.

[civic girder]

Rotary is definitely something worth trying at least once

[fathom socket]

Maybe I'll get a Mystery Machine and dorito swap it

[civic girder]

lmao

[fathom socket]

And do endos with it

[civic girder]

Somebody posted that video in the RX-7 discord

[fathom socket]

Have you seen the whole series?

[civic girder]

no, I only saw the first video

[fathom socket]

The thing sounds really good

You need to see the vid where they start it

[civic girder]

ofc it does, its a turbskie 13B

[fathom socket]

It does killer burnouts

[civic girder]

oh I'm sure

[fathom socket]

That'd be cool to have a 4 rotor

Like Rob Dahm

It was halarious when he snuck the rotary Corvette into LS Fest

[indigo coral]

didnt he get banned from the event for that lol?

[fathom socket]

No

The whole staff thought it was halarious

[midnight cradle]

they put him in rotary jail though

[fathom socket]

Yeah

Cleetus McFarland loved it

[civic girder]

Oh yea, did you hear that Dahm killed the 4 rotor

[fathom socket]

I didn't

[midnight cradle]

he did?

[civic girder]

and then I think someone else is trying to beat him to a working awd billet 4 rotor

[midnight cradle]

i thought he almost killed it

[fathom socket]

Isn't he wanting a 6 rotor?

[midnight cradle]

oh fuck he killed it

[civic girder]

They did a botch job when they made a mod to the radiator

[midnight cradle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5LIWAYEJWg

[civic girder]

and so the engine ate aluminum

[fathom socket]

Oh

That sucks

[civic girder]

yea

[fathom socket]

Time for a 6 rotor?

[civic girder]

lmao

[fathom socket]

Sorry, 6 dorito

[civic girder]

he rebuilt

[fathom socket]

Aw man

[midnight cradle]

oh it's fixed i think

[fathom socket]

Why didn't he go with A mo powa babeh?

[midnight cradle]

yeah

[civic girder]

yea, it's rebuilt

[fathom socket]

When in doubt, add mo powa babeh

Sad to see him not follow that logic

[midnight cradle]

man i can't wait until i'm done school and have a real job and can afford shit and space to work on cars

i'm gonna buy so many fieros

[civic girder]

Rotary Fiero

[midnight cradle]

yes

with a 12a

the reliable rotary

[civic girder]

:12abest:

[fathom socket]

Fiero you say?

[midnight cradle]

fieros are the best shitboxes

[fathom socket]

0_0

[civic girder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601235066055688205/669303990793797663/P_20200120_165006.jpg
The 12A lives strong in this one

[fathom socket]

I love them

[midnight cradle]

i wish i could actually have a fiero but i have no room to work on a car, my insurance is expensive as fuck, and theyre terrible dailies

[civic girder]

I probably would've considered a Fiero had I not been dead set on an RX-7

[midnight cradle]

mid engine rwd 80s car in snow

slides and rotates 180° and you just die immediately

[civic girder]

try front engined rwd 80s car in snow

[fathom socket]

I was looking for a vid on a V8 fiero

[civic girder]

I had to drive the RX-7 on snow once, was not fun

[midnight cradle]

oh there's gotta be tons of v8 fieros

[fathom socket]

Just to piss of you rotary guys

[midnight cradle]

most swaps are 3800 right

or was it 3600

[fathom socket]

3800

[midnight cradle]

yeah 3800 SC

[civic girder]

ooh

that sounds pretty sick actually

[fathom socket]

The 3800 was so damn reliable

[civic girder]

supercharged V6

[indigo coral]

3800 good engine

[civic girder]

one of GMs gems

[fathom socket]

My grandpa has a supercharged 3800

[midnight cradle]

in like an old buick right

[fathom socket]

Well, had a 3800

@midnight cradle Exactly

[civic girder]

The Lumina also had 3800 iirc

[fathom socket]

Now my dad has the 3800

Cause grandpa (may he rest in peace) wasn't able to drive anymore

[civic girder]

F

[midnight cradle]

rip

[civic girder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601235066055688205/669303972254973972/P_20200121_165758.jpg

7.2 Gallons at the pump. One of the most expensive fill ups I've had in a while

[indigo coral]

my grandpa's car is 07 RX 350

he doesn't really drive anymore though

which is a recent development

[civic girder]

swap out for his

he won't notice

[indigo coral]

the rx350 has good power and trans, but god the steering makes me want to jump off a bridge

[civic girder]

lol

what kind of steering does it have?

[indigo coral]

idk, but I know its so incredibly numb and light that its insane

[civic girder]

ah

[fathom socket]

Lol

[civic girder]

probably an early form of electric power steering

[indigo coral]

just googled it

its normal power steering

w/ a pump and stuff

[civic girder]

huh, odd

[indigo coral]

its just soooooooo overassisted

[civic girder]

normally hydraulic power steering isn't that overboosted

[indigo coral]

It's a lexus rx.

lol

[midnight cradle]

yknow what the best car is fellas

[indigo coral]

mine isn't as boosted

[fathom socket]

When I drove my dad's 2017 Chevy Cruze for a couple of months, I disabled the power steering cause I hated it so much

[midnight cradle]

saturn astra

[indigo coral]

Genesis G70!! @midnight cradle

o

damn

[midnight cradle]

the best shitbox you can buy for 2kcad

[indigo coral]

fair enough

[civic girder]

what

[fathom socket]

The steering was heavy, but not to heavy

[midnight cradle]

disabling power steering

my dude

[indigo coral]

a friends sister crashed their grand prix into a tree (she's fine, just squashed the front corner in) because she claimed "the car stopped turning" lol

[fathom socket]

The car was so damn light

[indigo coral]

her parents were like.. then use the f*cking brakes

[fathom socket]

It didn't matter

[midnight cradle]

this is sort of like that but i shut off the engine while driving once

[civic girder]

My RX-7 lacks power steering in any form. Doesn't even have rack and pinion steering either. Hands down the best steering rack I've ever felt

[midnight cradle]

the steering is so heavy

[indigo coral]

uh

do you not have a lock

mine locks down the steering as soon as you turn it off

[midnight cradle]

the key was still it in and i set it to "on"

[civic girder]

wot

[midnight cradle]

i just put it in neutral and shut the engine off

[civic girder]

that sounds incredibly dangerous falcon

[indigo coral]

on mine, unless the engine is running it locks the steering

[midnight cradle]

that's terrible

[fathom socket]

Don't shut the engine off while moving!

[midnight cradle]

yeah i know i also suck

[indigo coral]

that's how most all modern cars are...

[midnight cradle]

but it's a manual ok so it's less bad

[indigo coral]

(not that mines particularly modern)

[fathom socket]

It'll disable the power brakes

[midnight cradle]

yeah i know

[indigo coral]

^ that

too

[midnight cradle]

i just put it back in gear slowly and it came back on

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[civic girder]

Yea. On my RX-7, the steering will lock if the key is removed or turned to off. But it will also only lock when you attempt to move the wheel

[fathom socket]

And prevent the airbags from inflating

[midnight cradle]

same as push starting

[indigo coral]

hardly takes any movement to make mine lock down

[fathom socket]

I've stall started many cars before

[midnight cradle]

also, I love how my tires fit in the back

look at that it's so perfect

[indigo coral]

wow

[civic girder]

Somehow I stalled the RX-7 while driving once. Still not sure how that happened. And then having the fuel pump die while on the highway is also terrifying as well

[midnight cradle]

best car

did i mention it's a m a n u a l

[fathom socket]

Did you put it back in gear while the car was movin

[midnight cradle]

yeah

and i slowly let out the clutch and the engine started

[civic girder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601235066055688205/649364863684182037/P_20191127_163803.jpg
My dynamic duo, aka my problem children

[fathom socket]

@midnight cradle Oh shit, does it have the 2.4 ecotec engine?

[midnight cradle]

1.8

they only put one engine in the thing

[civic girder]

o o f

[fathom socket]

Oof

[civic girder]

2.4 ecoshit is the only good ecoshit

[midnight cradle]

i think there's a 2.4t or something in europe though

the VXR

[fathom socket]

Thank God it doesn't have the 2.4

[civic girder]

huh

[midnight cradle]

same car technically

[civic girder]

I thought the 2.4 was the good one

[fathom socket]

It sorta is

They all have trouble

[indigo coral]

idk if you could classify the 1mz-fe as a good engine

it wasn't a pioneering crazy accomplishment or anything

(and its slow as f*ck)

[civic girder]

What about the 1NZ-FXE

(aka, what the 2nd gen Prius has)

[indigo coral]

its kind of ridiculous it only has 220hp from 3 litres and 6 cylinders

[fathom socket]

@indigo coral Wanna hear something more crazy?

[midnight cradle]

let's see what engine this has

it's a 1.8 vvt ecotec

138hp

[indigo coral]

I know 70s cars were like 150hp from 8 liter v8

if thats where youre going

[civic girder]

Speaking of ecoshits, there's a guy on the RX-7 discord who is putting a turbo ecotec motor in an FC

[midnight cradle]

based

[fathom socket]

@indigo coral My older brothers first vehicle was a 2002 Ford F-150. It had a 4.6l V8 and it made a whopping 230 HP

[civic girder]

idk which one exactly, but I think he's putting a 2.4 in it

[indigo coral]

yikes

the rx is my first

[fathom socket]

The 2.4 can hold the most boost

[civic girder]

yea, probably what he's going with

[fathom socket]

The 2.4 is good except for the timing chain probs

[civic girder]

lmao

typical GM

[fathom socket]

Which can be solved with a good timing kit

[midnight cradle]

ah my car's got a U18XER

just found it

[indigo coral]

@fathom socket Do you think the 1MZ-FE is a good engine?

[fathom socket]

Or, changing the oil every 3000 miles

[midnight cradle]

it's got VVT

[civic girder]

He's probably getting a good timing kit, or at least I would hope. He's been on this project for a year (?) and hopes to finish it in 2020

[midnight cradle]

basically that means i can put vtec badges on my car

yeet

[fathom socket]

@indigo coral Definitely not the best, but a decent motor. Should last you to 250,000 miles without any trouble

[civic girder]

then there's my fake rod knock 1NZ

[fathom socket]

Lol

[indigo coral]

what about the Kia/Hyundai 3.3t

and SAME

mine seriously sounded 100% like rod knock though

[fathom socket]

What engine does it have?

[indigo coral]

1 sec

[civic girder]

Now that I kinda think about it, the noise those ceramic pieces sound kinda like rod knock

[midnight cradle]

man i kinda wish i could get a diesel in my car

NA doesnt have enough diesel cars

[civic girder]

but you can tell its not rod knock cause the sound comes from the top of the motor

[fathom socket]

@midnight cradle Duramax swap it 😛

[indigo coral]

cant find a specific engine code

[civic girder]

Get a diesel Jetta

[midnight cradle]

nah i mean like

[civic girder]

a buddy of mine has a diesel Jetta as his daily

[indigo coral]

its the 3.3 litre turbo v6

[midnight cradle]

my car's basically just a rebadged opel astra

[civic girder]

That motor sounds pretty lit

[indigo coral]

365hp

[midnight cradle]

and that car came with so many engines in europe

but then they brought it over here and they only offered it with the 1.8l

[indigo coral]

"3.3 T-GDi"

[fathom socket]

@indigo coral I don't recommend the engine.

[indigo coral]

why?

[midnight cradle]

like in europe they can pick between 5 different gas engines

[indigo coral]

also fuck now i have to find a different dream car

[fathom socket]

But it's not terrible

[midnight cradle]

and 3 different diesels

[indigo coral]

what are the bad parts about it

[fathom socket]

Mostly like every engine nowadays, the timing system

[indigo coral]

hey thats what went wrong with my moms explorer xD

timing chain stretched and a whoolllle load of shit went wrong

[fathom socket]

I've seen that happen all too many times

[indigo coral]

thankfully was under warranty

lol

[fathom socket]

People ask me, do I go with a chain driven engine or a belt driven engine

[indigo coral]

belt engines are bad though, cause you have to replace the timing belt every few years + pretty much all new engines are interference

[fathom socket]

I tell them, it doesn't matter. Your still gonna have issues some day

[indigo coral]

I really can't find out if mine is interference or not

its literally a giant debate on lexus/toyota forums

lmao

[civic girder]

Just be like the RX-7. Timing chain and distributor

distributors are cool

just like carbs

[fathom socket]

But a pain in the ass

[civic girder]

tru

[indigo coral]

do you by any chance know if the 1mz-fe is interference? Mine's the VVTi versionp.

[civic girder]

tho I have not had the pain joy of having to adjust timing yet

so

[fathom socket]

I have no idea

[civic girder]

distributor still seems pretty cool

[dense shard]

Write an email to Lexus of America

I'm sure they can give you an answer

[fathom socket]

Ugh, sorry.

I had to be an admin for a sec

@indigo coral Did you ask a question?

[indigo coral]

yes

[fathom socket]

What was it?

[indigo coral]

do you by any chance know if the 1mz-fe is interference? Mine's the VVTi versionp.

[fathom socket]

I'm pretty sure it is.

[indigo coral]

i know the non-vvti one is for sure non-interference

and the 3mz-fe in the newer RX is interference

[fathom socket]

I'm pretty sure the 1mz-fe is interference

[indigo coral]

so apparently hte confusion comes from Toyota listing them as interference AND non-interference from different sites/sources/times

charming

[civic girder]

Toyota doesn't know what it is

they just know it works

[indigo coral]

some ppl said that its non-interference unless VVTi is engaged, then it can take out the valves

but \

I read online that vvti on this car is just timing, it doesnt affect valve lift or anything besides timing

[civic girder]

It probably is just timing

most cam related stuff is too expensive to bother

or too complex

VVT stands for "variable valve timing" afterall

[indigo coral]

oh well, whatever

ill replace it around 200k

[civic girder]

VVL is "variable valve lift"

[indigo coral]

higher mileage but time wise its appropriate

was done just a few years ago

[civic girder]

what was done?

[indigo coral]

timing belt service

[civic girder]

oh

[indigo coral]

so i assume water pump and stuff too

[civic girder]

you assume, but can you confirm that

[indigo coral]

nope

but I'm not tearing the whole thing apart to rpelace it

[civic girder]

then assume it wasn't done

[indigo coral]

I'm paranoid as hell when I'm driving so if something goes wrong I'll notice it

[civic girder]

Always assume something wasn't done unless you have written and/or physical evidence that it was done

[indigo coral]

I'll plan to do plugs again at 175k, then tb and stuff at 200k

[civic girder]

The only things I knew were done to the RX-7 when I bought it was the stuff the actual mechanic who did them told me

Fuel pump, fuel filler neck, fuel filler cap, carb rebuild, fuel filter, and cleaned/sealed gas tank

nothing else was touched

[indigo coral]

lexus service guide says plugs every 50k, but the car is getting old

so prob do it a bit more frequiently

next time will be far easier than last time

[civic girder]

I think the RX-7 manual says spark plugs every 30k, lmao

Oh yea, I think the Prius will also be easier to change next time. If there is a next time on this motor

[indigo coral]

I do oil every 5k which is against all the advice on forums and in teh service guide but I use synthetic versus dino shit

[civic girder]

Conventional is great

for rotaries

[indigo coral]

no benefit to it in my rx

it gets sludgy easily, like VERY easily in that engine

synth doesnt

[civic girder]

Yea, conventional is only good in those niche applications

[indigo coral]

though my usual driving style doesn't lend itself to sludge

[civic girder]

I put full synth in the Prius

[indigo coral]

seems that the people who had problems with sludge in the RX were old people who never got it up to temp

[dense shard]

My Corolla is my first car that takes synthetic

[indigo coral]

it's rare that I don't get it all the way warm driving somewhere

[dense shard]

Toyota states 10k between oil changes

[normal temple]

Mood

[indigo coral]

and yes, I've driven an extra little bit between changing oil.

Service manual on mine says 3k, forums say 2k on dino

I do 5k

😄 (on synth)

[civic girder]

After having dailyed a rotary for a fair amount of time, I always give adequate time for a motor to warm up

It might sound stupid to sit and wait for the engine to kick on in a hybrid, but I do

and then I'll let it warm up for a minute or two before driving off

[indigo coral]

i give mine a few seconds but usually I'm kinda in a hurry lol.

[fathom socket]

I get soooooooo annoyed when I have a customer who changed the oil every 20,000 miles and got upset when the engine blew up

[indigo coral]

I'll turn it on and get music going, drinks setup, etc

hey 5k isn't as bad as 20k

lol

[civic girder]

Yea, def not

I've run the Prius 10k without problems tho

[indigo coral]

5k is reasonable for synthetics

[civic girder]

I think that was also on conventional because I was being cheap, lmfao

[fathom socket]

I go whenever the percentage on my dash is at 20%

[indigo coral]

is synthetic that much more expensive?

I mean its like 20 bucks for 6 quarts

[civic girder]

at quick lube places, yes

for DIY oil change, no

and I did DIY this time

[indigo coral]

oil changes are ez as hell

only car we take to the dealer is the Taurus cause the warranty xD

[civic girder]

Yea, but before, I didn't have any tools for oil changes

[indigo coral]

(ends in 2023 😬 )

[civic girder]

I didn't really have much for tools (or knowledge/experience) until after I got the RX-7

[indigo coral]

the damn door handle needs fixed at the dealer on the taurus

[civic girder]

and the RX-7 is going nowhere within 50ft of quick lube places

[indigo coral]

the spring fell off in the back seat

so it like

unlatches fine but doesnt have resistance

they'll fix it though

[civic girder]

My friend's dad's 89 Vic, the driver's side door handle got unhooked from the mechanism on the outside

so you had to open the driver's door from either the back, or the passenger side (on the inside)

[indigo coral]

the latch works fine, its just the thing that provides resistance (and pulls the handle back) when you pull on it

[civic girder]

That crown vic is something else tho

[indigo coral]

lmao

[civic girder]

leaks oil like nothing I've ever seen before

rusty af

sounds like somebody clapping rapidly when you stomp on it

[indigo coral]

we found out a big rip about my car

but don't plan to do anything about it for a good long while

[civic girder]

but holy shit, that Vic is pretty comfy

potholes and bumps do not exist because the suspension is super soft

[fathom socket]

Crown Vics are comfy

[civic girder]

and the body roll is unreal

well, I think I am going to head off for the night

[indigo coral]

goodnight

[indigo coral]

@dense shard

[drifting mantle]

Got the scanner. I was expecting the problem to be with the distributor / ignition system.

Most likely I just broke the connection, when disconnecting the wire for the solenoid.

I’ll check it tomorrow morning.

[stoic ledge]

@drifting mantle what car + what's going on? 👀

[uneven ledge]

Came here to see cars...

[stoic ledge]

@midnight cradle I see an Astra, I press like xD

But uhm, U18XER? It's Z18XER iirc, can't remember Opel/Vauxhall using the U as a letter (or it must be something specific for the US market)

The VXR/OPC didn't use a 2.4 (Turbo), a 2.4 wouldn't fit. The VXR/OPC did use a 2.0 Turbo (241hp)

Other engines you could get in the Astra:

• 1.4 (Z14XEP) 90hp
• 1.6 (Z16XEP/Z16XER) 105/115hp
• 1.8 non-VTT (Z18XE) 125hp
• 1.8 VVT (Z18XER) 140hp
• 1.6 Turbo (Z16LET) 180hp
• 2.0 Turbo (Z20LEL/Z20LER/Z20LEH) 170/200/241hp (241 == OPC/VXR)
• 1.3/1.7/1.9 CDTi (diesels) ranging from 90hp up to 150hp

Also the 2.4 is a US GM engine, and has never been used in any Opel/Vauxhall model (and since the Saturn is just a rebrand... xD)

[bitter compass]

i hate opel, i don't trust their reliability

and that brand sounds stupid 🤔

[fair bronze]

[jagged coyote]

hope that's sarcasm...

[stoic ledge]

[warm sparrow]

[bitter compass]

actually no, both opels were maintenance nightmares, i lost trust into it 🤔

my little vw is also a nightmare but that's due to bad drivers in the past, and we believe it had an bigger accident than "2 replaced doors"

[stoic ledge]

VW

[bitter compass]

vw is just overpriced 🤔

solid cars but heck, why does a polo cost 19000€ if you want everything what other brands give you as basic configuration for 14 - 16k 👀

mostly 14k

[stoic ledge]

And their quality is also quite shite, although engine wise it's ok the last couple of years
DSG, especially the DQ200 is really bad
Their van line-up is pre-historic
They are indeed very expensive compared to the competition
Tbh the driving is completely bland. Nothing offensive, but it's not a car which is fun to drive. Comparable Ford's for example are way more fun
The looks are also very bland, which is nice if you want that

And besides that, I know plenty VW owners (Golf, Passsat) of a few years old with squeaks and rattles from all different sorts of places... which shouldn't occur on such expensive car

And then, most of all: the Dutch importer. They are 💩 . Where in other places in Europe, cars get extended warranty, leniency fixes etc... the Dutch importer just doesn't. He actually buys the cars from the factory without warranty, and then "provides" the warranty himself. Which is basically 0 warranty.

[bitter compass]

🤔

i actually have never seen a dsg in a vw

amd idk if you want a car thats fun to drive why would you choose vw

[stoic ledge]

How haven't you seen a DSG in a VW yet xD

[bitter compass]

mist people in Germany drive manual

and if automatic its usually a bmw or merc,

[stoic ledge]

Of all 2017 or newer Polo's for sale at mobile.de, 30% is a DSG 😛

Golf 50%

[bitter compass]

🤔

[stoic ledge]

Passat 75%

xD

[bitter compass]

hmmm

literally have never seen it 🤔

[stoic ledge]

Total 2017+ VW: 112k
Total 2017+ VW DSG: 56k

Exactly half is an automatic xD

[bitter compass]

yikes

but then again you can opt out of learning how to drive manual by setting an x in "i want to get tested in an automatic" while doing your license now 🤔

[stoic ledge]

Yeah it's the same over here

[bitter compass]

my sister couldn't, i could i did my license 5 years later

[stoic ledge]

Ah well I know my uncle got an automatic license like 25-30 years ago, so apparently it was already a thing back then

[bitter compass]

idk as long as manuals are common, you should be also teached how to drive them imo

[stoic ledge]

It's on his license, he's only allowed to drive an automatic so he does. Don't really see the issue unless you're going to drive in a manual all of a sudden

[night current]

You guys have to mark whether you plan on driving manual or automatic?

[bitter compass]

you can opt out of learning manual, but are only allowed to drive auto then.

[stoic ledge]

Standard it's a manual, but if you take the test in an automatic you can only drive an auto

Usually you start learning a manual, but if that doesn't work out you can try an auto xD

[bitter compass]

but if you learn manual you can drive everything you want

[stoic ledge]

^ jeej for me

[bitter compass]

except semis

[stoic ledge]

Or buses

Or a larger trailer

Or a motorbike

Or a tractor

xD

[night current]

That's wack... In America we just get a license and drive anything we want. xP

[bitter compass]

tractor license is a joke over here xd

[stoic ledge]

I can only drive a regular car up to 3500kg, or a moped xD

Yeah tractor isn't that difficult around here too

[bitter compass]

13 yo kids gets told to bring in the cows, jumps into tractor

[stoic ledge]

Ah well you need to be 16yo for a tractor around here (officially)

I've driven them before tho xD

[bitter compass]

local police are greeting them, non local police is like wtf are you doin on the road

[stoic ledge]

Yes classic

Well I don't really see that much police driving around anymore, especially "in the countryside"

[bitter compass]

police be like: shift ends at 16:00 and if anything happens after that nearby bigger towns police issue not ours

oh and don't try to contact them before 10:00

they'll hate ya

[stoic ledge]

LOL

Well tbh the nearest police station is 2 counties away xD

So that's awesome

"omg somebody is breaking in to my house"

Ok sir stay calm, we'll be there in 2 hours

Basically

[midnight cradle]

no it's a u18xer not z18xer

also yeah I was thinking of the 2.0t in the vxr/opc when I said 2.4

[stoic ledge]

Oh ok xD

U18XER is probably a slightly tweaked Z18XER

The first letter is based on the emission legislation (Z = Euro 4, A = Euro 5, B = Euro 6 etc), U is probably some US emissions legislation

[midnight cradle]

yeah probably

[night current]

😎 🇺🇸

[lethal garnet]

back at it again

[jagged coyote]

too many Prius

[indigo coral]

Prius gets as many mpg as the other cars in this chat added together lmao

[lethal garnet]

lol

i got 100 this tank

that’s with charging it

he left this note on the car

so i’m leaving this

[indigo coral]

Lol

[jagged coyote]

[stoic ledge]

I approve of this

[civic girder]

This phone is really nice for stuff like this. Flip the camera around and then you can take pictures under a car without having to lift it and crawl under

[normal temple]

I crawl under anyways cause I can never get the right angle

[civic girder]

Lmao

So yea. About to go get an oil filter for my dad's Lexus and do an oil change on it.

[normal temple]

Plus most of the cars I work on have plastic shielding everywhere

[civic girder]

Lol

[normal temple]

So its basically useless

Honestly fuck Mercedes for making a one piece plastic shield with 20 torx bolts on it

That you have to remove to access the oil drain plug

Hence why I just extract from the top

[civic girder]

Sometime soon I may go to a rust repair shop and see how bad the RX-7 is. There's a couple spots up front where there's some rust, driver's side looks worse. Then once that's fixed I want to get a fresh undercoat

[normal temple]

Honestly, when its like visible from the bottom

The top is gonna be pretty bad

[civic girder]

Rust?

Or plastic cladding

[normal temple]

Rust

Thank god my area doesn't salt the roads YEET

[civic girder]

Well, this rust is just on the underside. I'll take pics when I go back outside. It's literally like the only rust area on the whole undercarriage

And that's only because its the only area where rocks and debris from the wheels actually hit the car

So it did eventually tear up the undercaot

[normal temple]

Ah

[civic girder]

The only other rust I have seen is surface rust where paint got chipped up, and rusty af bolts

It's a hella clean car.

[normal temple]

Not bad

[civic girder]

Yea. Besides those two areas, the old undercoat is still holding up well

These are the areas in question:

Driver's side

Passenger side

@normal temple
Even the driver's side might not be that bad. Could all be surface rust

Also, why the fuck does my dad's Lexus do this. It condensates inside the car

[indigo coral]

Mine does that too wtf

Also my Rx has just a tiny bit of rust on exhaust stuff. Prob gonna replace it before it spreads

Rust is cancer

and I don't want a rotten frame and holes in the doors

[stoic ledge]

Lol I don't think anyone wants a rotten frame and holes in the doors

😛

[carmine summit]

rust on the exhaust is a good sign

exhaust systems should be made out of a material that rusts fairly easily, because chemistry and stuff it'll rust instead of the rest of the car

[civic girder]

God damn. That oil filter was tight as fuc

[carmine summit]

do you have a filter wrench?

[fair bronze]

Just make sure you don't overtighten it lol

The garage did that once on my grandma's Honda Jazz, half a year later when we drove to Germany it gave a low oil pressure warning

Turned out there was a tiny hole in the filter housing from overtightening it so the oil slowly leaked out over time

You can see where the filter housing got damaged

[carmine summit]

whoever did that should be fired

who would be dumb enough to think that's right

[fair bronze]

It was probably a new guy who did this but idk

It all ended well luckily

Drove to a local Honda dealer and they had a used filter that we could use

[drifting mantle]

@stoic ledge 1998 Accord 2.3L 5-speed.
Car is in limp mode after changing the egr valve gasket, vtec solenoid gasket/screen, and distributor o-ring.

Sorry for the late reply btw.
Gonna see if I can fix it now, after I finish waking up xD

I’m pretty sure I just messed up one of the connectors, for either the solenoid, or oil pressure.

[stoic ledge]

Oof no problem, that's what the time difference does for ya

I'd check the resistance on the solenoid itself

Or indeed the oil pressure, should be one of those

Dirty oil can also cause it, idk how old your oil is

[drifting mantle]

I changed the oil like a week ago actually x’D

[civic girder]

@carmine summit
Yes I do have a filter wrench. And it was still a bitch to remove. Whoever installed it tightened it a little much

[indigo coral]

Lexus filters are always a bitch to remove, it seems n

[drifting mantle]

I’m gonna follow Bullet Solano’s guide in diagnosing that code. (He’s a YouTuber, who has the same generation of car as me)

[civic girder]

I tighten my oil filters to hand tight and then give it a hurk to make sure it's good. Never too tight

Gonna check the oil level here after it settles back down. I add exactly the recommended amount of oil

[drifting mantle]

Gotta find my multimeter now. Otherwise it’ll be another day of driving to work while in limp mode xD

[stoic ledge]

Just disconnect the ECU

(:

[indigo coral]

I keep mine between the two dots and I'm good

I try to keep it around halfway between or slightly above halfway

[stoic ledge]

I keep it at MAX all the time

Because chain driven engines + hard cornering + low oil = possibility of running it dry

And we don't want that

[indigo coral]

If it's at max you run the risk of oil foaming tho

then you're very screwed

[dense shard]

Oil level can be at max without issues.

[eager kite]

Tesla now 2nd most valuable car co.

[dense shard]

Going over is a bit sketch.

[eager kite]

Lil ridiculous ngl

[dense shard]

But I imagine the oil that gets splashed out will just make it into the EGR stuff, and get burned.

[stoic ledge]

OwO a Toyota Prius

[civic girder]

Lmao

It's more like a "luxury" Camry hybrid

I had to beat the shit out of the old filter to get it off

[stoic ledge]

Doesn't look as big as a Camry imho xD

But idk, haven't seen a Camry irl in 738282 years

[civic girder]

You're right, it isnt. The Camry Hybrid wasn't a real thing yet. That came after the HS250h

[stoic ledge]

Ah ok (:

[civic girder]

Toyota wanted a larger and fancier Prius, so they took a Corolla and made a Lexus out of it. Then they put in a 2AZ out of a Camry and slapped a Prius hybrid system onto it. The HS250h sold like shit and failed pretty bad, it only got one generation (it did get a 2nd gen in Japan tho). After the HS250h failure, they took a Camry and slapped a hybrid system into it instead; sold a lot better.

[fair bronze]

I didn't even know the HS250h was a thing

Never seen it before

[civic girder]

The example my dad has (soon to be my brother's) sold for nearly $40k USD brand new.

@fair bronze I think they were only sold in the US and Japan. I hadn't seen one either until this one. They are rare. Hardly any were sold in the US. It died within 2 years of launch

[fair bronze]

Most likely, but I mean I've never seen one before in general

So not on pictures either

[stoic ledge]

^ same until eastman posted picks of one a couple of weeks back xD

Usually I know cars even the USDM/JDM ones, but I didn't recognize this one

[fair bronze]

I've seen a lot of weird models too

I can see why it failed, the proportions are a bit strange

Not saying it's ugly or anything, but it looks a little off

[arctic moon]

https://www.kiran-panchal.com/automotive

some of my car stuff

Still learning about automotive photography

[fair bronze]

Your pics look good

[stoic ledge]

OwO nice

[arctic moon]

yeah I dont know how to get rid of that lol

[fair bronze]

You don't need to lol

[arctic moon]

the powered by squarespace bit. i dont really care though

[fair bronze]

I'm just memeing a bit

[civic girder]

Ok. Time to check oil after the shakedown, and I'll grab some interior pics

[fair bronze]

The looks are starting to grow on me tbh

I think it's mostly due to the fact that I've never seen it before

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I quite dig the HS250h look xD1

[fair bronze]

You know that feeling when you discover a car model that has existed for years but you never knew it was a thing

[stoic ledge]

Yeah

[civic girder]

Beautiful. Perfectly at full

[fair bronze]

It feels weird

[stoic ledge]

No HS for sale throughout Europe

[fair bronze]

Sad

[dense shard]

I don't think you missed much.

It looked nice, but that's about it.

[fair bronze]

You don't understand

All we got was this thing

[dense shard]

I liked the CT.

[civic girder]

The car is nice, but it's kinda small. Has no folding down rear seats. And it's gas mileage is pretty shit for it being a hybrid

[dense shard]

I probably would have cross shopped if they existed.

Looks like an older Corolla hatchback.

[fair bronze]

@stoic ledge I guess our sarcasm didn't translate well

The CT is mostly owned by dicks here

[dense shard]

Lexus is more than welcome to bring it back tbh.

They have the platform and tech to do it. Just change up the Corolla hatch a bit, and you've got a lexus.

[dense shard]

A nice Toyota.

Not bad, but not exactly brilliant.

[civic girder]

Yea

it's quiet, smooth, comfortable

[fair bronze]

You described it perfectly

[civic girder]

but overpriced, and has shit economy considering its a hybrid

35mpg highway

from a 2.4L i4 + electric motor

[fair bronze]

Well hybrids don't really gain much on the highway

[civic girder]

idk

my Prius is rated higher on the highway than in the city

I think city for the HS250h is like 33mpg? something like that

[fair bronze]

Yeah it's 14.8km/l

Had to calculate it

To compare, my dad's Kia Niro gets 21km/l average

That's 49.4mpg lol

[civic girder]

lmao

That's usually about what I get in the Prius, in the summer

close to 50

[fair bronze]

That's very good

[civic girder]

ye

[stoic ledge]

CT200h was 99.9% a company car, and 99.9% of company car drivers are jerks Which results in to 99.8% of CT200h drivers

That's what you meant @fair bronze ? xD

[fair bronze]

Pretty much

[indigo coral]

I get 20mpg highway, 16-18 city 😂😂😂😂

I'd love to have 35mpg

[fair bronze]

lol

At least your car was free?

[indigo coral]

ja

[stoic ledge]

ja 👀 Let's talk Dutch from now on xD

[indigo coral]

Gonna take the newer RX to stretch it's legs

[stoic ledge]

Newer RX 👀

[indigo coral]

Yeah the 2007

[stoic ledge]

Buy it

[indigo coral]

wot

[fair bronze]

Eh

[indigo coral]

It's way faster but the steering is bad

[fair bronze]

[indigo coral]

[stoic ledge]

Want mine? It's way slower but the steering is good

xD

[indigo coral]

ÒwÓ

[stoic ledge]

Not too shabby

[fair bronze]

Not much better though

[indigo coral]

wot

Best part is the suspension is more modern and it's way faster

It's a nice car

Super low miles

57,688

[fair bronze]

It's the same car but newer

[indigo coral]

yeah

Newer, faster and (in theory) more reliable

With a real transmission this time

Significantly more efficient as well

[fair bronze]

What, yours has a fake one?

[stoic ledge]

xD

[indigo coral]

Mine has a shitty one not suited to the job

[stoic ledge]

Yeah falcon has magical elves in there

Doing the shifting

[indigo coral]

yeah, defective ones

[fair bronze]

Just believe to shift gears

[indigo coral]

Lol

[stoic ledge]

A real transmission is a manual tho

runs

[fair bronze]

[indigo coral]

oof

[dense shard]

I love how tiny the rear window wiper is on the CT200h.

It's adorable.

[normal temple]

Imagine not having over 200k miles on your car

/s

[drifting mantle]

Lil' update.
I took apart the solenoid, and remembered that that little shaft it moves flew out when I was cleaning it.
I flipped it around, thinking I put it in backwards.

The car ran fine for a few minutes. I was able to rev higher than 4k rpms.
But nearing the end of the test drive, it went back into limp mode.

The same code came back (P1259) and now a new code appeared, p0505

I have less than an hour before I gotta leave for work.
So I'll just have to research what I can do next.

[drifting mantle]

Ye, I'm searching what I could do.

[indigo coral]

lol

Sorry, im not any good with this stuff

[dense shard]

Just do what any good Apple owner would.

Send it to Rossman buy a new car.

[indigo coral]

Lol

[drifting mantle]

lol

[indigo coral]

Rossman is hilarious

[dense shard]

Sounds like you're making progress at least.

[drifting mantle]

Well I fixed it for a few minutes. Now I've got 2 codes instead of one x'D

All I wanted to do was fix an oil leak, and do some preventative maintenance x'D

[dense shard]

99 bugs in my code
99 bugs
Fix a bug, patch it around"
342 bugs in my code

[drifting mantle]

x'D

[indigo coral]

yep

[civic girder]

Get a new solenoid

if something flew out of it while you were cleaning it, it broke

I broke some solenoids on my RX-7. However, I only have 1 essential solenoid, the rest are auxiliary and not really necessary

though I would like to fix the A/C idle compensation solenoid since idle drops 500rpm when the compressor kicks on

[indigo coral]

oof

[civic girder]

I should also probably plug the leak in my vac system caused by one of my broken solenoids

[drifting mantle]

Alright. I'll go to the junk yard tomorrow before work.

[dense shard]

"[Musk is] going to be building a very big plant in the United States. He has to. Because we help him, so he has to help us."

According to Trump, Musk is building a new factory in the US? 🤔 Even Electrek is shrugging their shoulders on this bit.

[indigo coral]

wot

Isn't he putting GF4 in Detroit or something?

[dense shard]

That's in Germany I thought.

GF3 is China.

[indigo coral]

where's gf2 then

I lose track lol

[dense shard]

New York.

Nevada is GF1.

[indigo coral]

ah

Well I knew where gf1 is

[dense shard]

GF4 will likely be in Berlin, but that's coming up against environmental concerns.

[indigo coral]

I don't blame them

Tesla makes very inefficient factories

Lots and lots of waste

[dense shard]

oh it's not even that.

It's the usual endangered species stuff.

I expect the German government won't be kind to pollution.

[stoic ledge]

I expect the German government won't be kind to pollution.

Yet they use brown coal for electricity 🙃

[unreal terrace]

I thought my car was abit weird handling wise, checked the tyre pressure...
0.5bar left front 2.25bar right front

[indigo coral]

oh wow

[unreal terrace]

Meh, I knew one of the tyres would be leaky, thought it was the right rear tho no left front X)

[warm sparrow]

Meh I changed for winter tires last WE and I haven't checked pressure yet 🤔🤔

Not so good

But we'll, they seem ok 😅🤪

[stoic ledge]

Oof 0.5 bar is extremely low

[unreal terrace]

yuo should check them xD

[stoic ledge]

I let my dad check them for me 🙃

Ez xD

[fair bronze]

There's a local tire pump near me

So handy

[stoic ledge]

My local gas station has a free tire pump... but letting me dad do it is easier 😛

[warm sparrow]

Same but he won't do it

I didn't ask tho

I need to go to that gas station but it's cold outside so f*ck it

Yes security first kids

[fair bronze]

Ours is digital and powered by solar energy

Either you can enter your license plate to get the correct pressure for your car, or you can enter your own value

[warm sparrow]

:o

[stoic ledge]

Oof fancy

[carmine summit]

we have a huge compressor at home but the gas station 15 minutes away has free air so that's pretty convenient

I used that air at my summer job when the truck I was in had a flat tire and the shop compressors were out for a few hours

[desert glen]

The transmission problems in my Focus are starting to shine through

: )

[stoic ledge]

What problems?

Powershift?

[warm sparrow]

Nice Ford quality xD

[indigo coral]

the powershit transmission

oboy

[carmine summit]

we had problems with the transmission in our old 94 F250, narrowed it down to a bad connection in the dashboard. If you smacked the dashboard that would sometimes fix it.

Funny story, my aunt was on the team that designed that transmission so we always teased her about it.

[desert glen]

Good thing I still get warranty service

With a loaner

[stoic ledge]

2020 Expedition Platinum MAX as loaner

[carmine summit]

looks at MK3 what's a warranty?

[desert glen]

My warranty’s through FCA

maybe i’ll get a hellcat

[fair bronze]

Or a Fiat 500

[desert glen]

Or I just get told to drive it until they’re able to fix it

[stoic ledge]

Or they just tell you to drive it until the warranty expires

[fair bronze]

Or they tell you to get lost

[desert glen]

Wouldn’t be surprised

[civic spoke]

Question.
If you turbocharge the Porsche GT3/RS.
Can you honestly still call it a GT3?

[dense shard]

Sounds like you have a GT2 at that point.

Though why would you turbo charge what is arguably the final say in naturally aspirated performance?

[civic spoke]

I have no idea. This guy who did it wanted the GT3RS sound, but with more power.

[indigo coral]

but like

you don't get the same sound if you turbo

[civic spoke]

Yeah. IDK why he did it. Other than thinking that ~500 hp wasn't enough.

Forced induction on a high compression N/A engine is a good way to fuck it up.

[dense shard]

He could have gotten a Turbo.

More power, faster, and turbo.

[civic spoke]

I think he mentioned that he didn't get the GT2RS beacuse of the lack of sound.

[fair bronze]

That's just dumb

He could've just fitted it with a different exhaust

[civic spoke]

My thoughts.

The GT3/RS is meant to be N/A.

[fair bronze]

Yep, exactly

[drifting mantle]

So uh, I fixed the VTEC issue on my car x'D

Turns out when I was cleaning it to prep it for the new gasket/screen, that pin/shaft the solenoid moves, AND the spring for it, both fell out.

I didn't notice the spring. Went through the service manual's diagnostics for the P1259 code, and a few youtube videos till I found one where they took it apart, to find out what went wrong.

I searched, and found the spring in the grass.
Installed it, and now i have full power again, instead of being in Limp Mode.

All that's left is to change out the idle air control valve, as the engine revs from about 1300-2300rpm while at idle.

.
.
TLDR;
I did a dumb while trying to do maintenance on my car, and undid it.

[dense shard]

happy ending

[tame mesa]

Man I gotta hit up Nicky V. Customs

[night current]

Lol

I miss him

[indigo coral]

same

[civic girder]

I know the pain of doing a dumb while working on a car

The Prius is still suffering from that mistake

[fair bronze]

oof

[unreal terrace]

Any easy way of measuring how much poor-mans EGR your car gets?

[dense shard]

Just a quick reminder.

Don't forget to check your tire pressures.

It's winter, chances are it's running low.

[civic girder]

I check my tp all the time

gotta get peak mpgs and grip

[unreal terrace]

[stoic ledge]

Nitro flex 👀

[eager kite]

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-killer-mercedes-benz-eqc-production-target-halved

[flint sable]

Completed collection

[eager kite]

https://twitter.com/BeverleyCloke/status/1220434579477159941

Beverley Page (@BeverleyCloke)

#teslalife

Twitter

[civic girder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438484168373043200/669985924297523200/c2egbmjc82841.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VwtdtGE78Y

and the hot start troubles begin

[strong plume]

@flint sable theres also a blue version of the red livery https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/hotwheels/images/b/b3/Porsche_917_LH_(Blue)._HW_Raceday_3of10.jpg

[eager kite]

https://twitter.com/cleantechnica/status/1220551540664143874?s=19

CleanTechnica (@cleantechnica)

I Think People Are Misunderstanding Why Tesla [TSLA] Is Valued So Highly https://t.co/lnGM5vLO8Q

Twitter

[static canopy]

is that a supra?

[rough sorrel]

Yo so I got a 2013 Passat 2.5l, and I'm trying to choose an exhaust. I think I'm between magna flow and flowmaster, any recommendations? I'm gonna be buying from carid

[stoic ledge]

Akrapovic

[eager kite]

Tesla should buy Aston Martin so I could actually buy a performance Aston Martin.

Only soft spot I have for ICE vehicles are Aston Martins.

Market cap is only $1B too, wouldn't be that expensive to buy either

[flint sable]

@strong plume gonna have to look for that one then lOL

[fathom socket]

I hate when your keys don't turn to start your car then you realize you gotta turn the wheel a little bit to the right or left to unlock it then turn to start

[fair bronze]

Speaking of Aston Martin, I just saw a magnificent DB4 GT Zagato driving the other way this morning

Never expected to see one on the road

[indigo coral]

Eow

Wow*

[fair bronze]

Could've been a replica to be honest (most likely) but there was no way to tell

I'm trying to see if I can find it for sale somewhere as it was driving with dealer plates (which you can only use for a test drive)

[civic girder]

when the only way you'll buy a non-Tesla is if Tesla buys the company that makes the car

[fair bronze]

Not a Tesla fanboy

[civic girder]

lol, good meme

[indigo coral]

Remember, it's a community. Not a cult.

[fair bronze]

Right

[civic girder]

At least I acknowledge that the RX-7/rotary community is a cult, lmfao

[fair bronze]

At least you're not a treehugger

[civic girder]

huehuehuehuehue
laughs in trash tier emissions

lemme just go waste fuel due to compression loss, burn motor oil, and burn marine oil

God, I want to rip the cat off my car so bad

[indigo coral]

so do it

[fair bronze]

But you'll kill the planet

[indigo coral]

He already drives a rotary :P

[fair bronze]

I can smell the fumes from another continent!

[indigo coral]

Lol

[civic girder]

Emissions delete is low on my priority list

I want to do it desperately, but I know I have better things to do

such as actually getting around to changing my clutch cylinders so my shifting doesn't feel like shit and so I can stop leaking clutch fluid everywhere

So, the RX-7 discord is in the midst of a meme war right now.
A few days ago, one of the mods created a channel called "turbochads", for people with turbos on their cars.
So then another mod decided to change the name of an existing channel to "Claimed By NA Gang"

[fair bronze]

There's an RX-7 server?

lmao

[civic girder]

and now in the claimed by na gang chat, people are spamming the :noturbo: emote and saying meme things like "imagine thinking extra air will make your car faster

There's two RX-7 discords that I know of

There's the full fat all generations of RX-7 included, and LS swapping allowed server.
And there's the first gen only splinter server that spawned because a bunch of first gen bois got tired of the shitposting and memeing of the main server

[indigo coral]

Lol

[fair bronze]

RX-7 people are weird

[civic girder]

You're definitely not wrong

[fair bronze]

I like it

[civic girder]

Ye

Rotaries are cool. I think everyone should experience them at least once in their life. Maybe not own, as they can be a total pain in the ass

but I still want my rotary swapped truck and a bone stock (or near stock) RX-4 sedan

and the FB is never going anywhere

[indigo coral]

would be fun to drive if I could find an automatic one

[civic girder]

I have not driven an automatic rotary, but from what I understand, they suck pretty badly

[indigo coral]

I can't drive manual ;P

[civic girder]

especially the RX-8 autos because its a shitty Ford trans

Manual isn't that hard, you'd learn fast. And even then, you wouldn't necessarily have to drive it ;P

[indigo coral]

I tried in my grandpa's old truck. It did not go well.

So yeah. I don't have that gift. Lol.

[civic girder]

was it a column manual

[indigo coral]

no

[civic girder]

oof

[indigo coral]

I'm not smart enough to drive stick lol.

[civic girder]

You don't have to be smart

You just have to praftice

Trust me, the first time I drove stick, it was embarrassing

I had to quit because I couldn't even make it down the street from my house to my friends house

Part of practicing is that you also need a car with a decent trans and a good clutch. A shit clutch can fuck you up, even if you're good.

But if you can drive on a fucked clutch, you are a god

[stoic ledge]

Driving stick is ez 🙃

[fair bronze]

It actually is pretty easy, you just have to learn

Don't be intimidated by it

[stoic ledge]

Just rev it up to 6000rpm and clutch dump it

[indigo coral]

That's how you launch isn't it? I redline my car in neutral then drop it into drive. /s

[stoic ledge]

That's the automatic way, yeah

You can't do that in a manual

[indigo coral]

I was 100% joking

[stoic ledge]

You think I wasn't? xD

[normal temple]

@stoic ledge 9000 rpm clutch dump into R(ace) mode shift

[civic girder]

You mean 1500rpm automatic dump into Race mode in the Prius

[fathom socket]

If you do a clutch dump at 1500rpm in my third gen Camaro, it just does a burnout.

[civic girder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438484168373043200/670161751194468389/Second_Civil_War.jpg

[fathom socket]

Ha

[civic girder]

real image of the RX-7 discord

[fathom socket]

Turbo all the way baby!!!

https://tenor.com/view/donut-morepower-donutmedia-gif-13890153

[night current]

Pop up, up and down headlights

[fathom socket]

You can't go wrong with a turbske!

[night current]

^

[fathom socket]

If ya blow it up, build it stronger.

[night current]

Hell yeah brother

[civic girder]

I am part of the na-gang

[night current]

Na is cool, but turbske for powah

[fathom socket]

Superchargers are cool

Especially on big block's

[civic girder]

I prefer superchargers

turbskies are just glorified mufflers

[fathom socket]

You get way more power for less money with a turbske

Superchargers cost like $7k

[civic girder]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I prefer na over superchargers

why spend extra money when I already have enough power and some good noises

[fathom socket]

What???

You can never have enough power

Sigh

Have you learned nothing being in the car community

No one just says "Eh, It's got enough power"

[civic girder]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[indigo coral]

More power more better

[civic girder]

If I cared about racing, sure

[indigo coral]

looks at Demon

Too a point.

[civic girder]

but I don't really want to head to the track

I think it would defeat the fun for me

[indigo coral]

840hp Challenger is just ridiculous lmao

[civic girder]

much more than 180hp is ridiculous for me

100-130hp is about the sweet spot for me

For me, it's not about going fast or getting quick laps and bragging about how much power I have and how much boooooscht I'm feeding my LS

it's about driving around with a smile on my face

$1500 into a engine swap and big turbo, sure it'd be fast as fuck and fun too, but I just wouldn't smile as much knowing how much it cost

especially if I'm not really doing anything to justify the increase in power and ridiculous suspension and wheels/tires

and that's on top of the simple fact that more power increases the likelyhood of an accident (of any kind). I'd rather have a slow car that was pretty cheap and gives me a big grin than a cheap car I put in double it's value in parts and labor that is totaled and sitting in a junkyard

with a slow car, all you have to worry about is other people not being dumb. In a fast car you not only have to worry about idiot drivers, but also about your own ability to keep the car under control should you slide unexpectedly or something

just my two cents

I just don't think fast cars are for me

[fossil imp]

130? 😮

400 is the sweetspot for the road imo

depends what u are use to

[indigo coral]

300-400 is enough to be excessive enough that it's fun but not so much that you go to jail in 3 seconds

glances at 365hp G70

[stoic ledge]

83hp is enough 🙃

@normal temple that would work as well xD

[normal temple]

6th into Race mode is the best

[indigo coral]

you gotta put it in P(ass) mode on the highway

to go around someone

[stoic ledge]

I'll make a timelapse of my daily commute to prove 83hp is enough xD

> imagine having a P gear

[indigo coral]

don't have to imagine cause I've got one poggers

[stoic ledge]

R  1  3  5
'--+--+--'
   2  4```
![Pogey](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/541722916434214912.webp?size=128 "Pogey")

[unreal terrace]

Hmm why haven't anyone put like a twin turbo 6.9l Cummins diesel in a mid engined chassis? 🤔

[stoic ledge]

Because mid engined means good handling, a heavy diesel isn't what you want xD

[civic girder]

https://streamable.com/k7dzd

And the RX-7 discord is great. (marked out word is 3 letters and starts with a 'g' pretty sure its censored on the LTT discord, so I figured I should cross it out)

[fair bronze]

big oof

[dense shard]

60hp was enough for my commute in Japan.

170 for me right now is plenty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emrawH_HsFY New Exploder. It's the best rental car Ford has ever made.

[indigo coral]

it's worse than last gen