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indigo coral
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its not awful but its not great

shadow osprey
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Yeah but it comes with a V8

indigo coral
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no it doesn't

civic girder
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looks are subjective for the outside

shadow osprey
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or a V10 for the S8 which isnt much more

indigo coral
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oh

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i thought you meant stinger

shadow osprey
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ew no

indigo coral
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the S8 will cost you an arm and a leg to maintain

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like holy shit

shadow osprey
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yeah 😦

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unfortunately

indigo coral
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also the G70/Stinger have 10yr warranties

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:>

civic girder
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there aren't many German cars I'd actually own

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and most of them are pre 1995

indigo coral
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It's a crying shame the E60 cars were a reliability mess

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best looking 5ers ever

shadow osprey
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yeah I wouldn't actually own any except a Q7 diesel and maybe an old merc

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that's not true, I'd go for an E39

indigo coral
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So yeah. G70 looks amazing, from what I've read it drives really well, and it has a beautiful interior

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lol

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Wish I could get an E50 M5, but theyre a mess lol

shadow osprey
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what about the hyundai gensis, before it split?

indigo coral
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thats a good car, but not sporty or anything

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big sedan

shadow osprey
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I mean optional V8

indigo coral
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yes but the G70 can take some corners

civic girder
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A 90s Diesel Merc, the BMW M1 (because they look amazing), an E30, 959, way older 911s, and air cooled VWs from ancient times

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only German cars I could stand to own

indigo coral
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who wouldn't own a 959?

civic girder
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fools

indigo coral
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fair enough

civic girder
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I bet they're a pain to maintain tho

shadow osprey
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Oh and I'd whip a 6th gen golf TDI cause antilag is amazing

civic girder
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there's some na diesel Passats I'd rock cause they sound badass

indigo coral
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I could get used to dailying 365hp and a ZF 8HP though...

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Big change from a 220hp, 4spd RX 300

civic girder
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I'm not sure I could get used to driving anything with that much power

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even 200hp turns me off a bit

indigo coral
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It was nice getting to drive my mom's explorer for a few days

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while we were waiting for parts

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hardly have to push the pedal to get up to 60 at a reasonable clip

shadow osprey
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200 is too much?

civic girder
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too much for my tastes

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as I stated earlier, me like slow

indigo coral
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rotary has 1 torque

shadow osprey
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Like i said, special

civic girder
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lol

indigo coral
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220 is very slow in my RX, even revving it out

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lol

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heavy car + slow trans + slow engine

shadow osprey
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My mustang makes 300ish and it's slow as balls

indigo coral
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wanna drive my rx? xD

civic girder
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Well yea, if you balance out the big power with big weight, that's usually ok

shadow osprey
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I learned stick on a 2002 civic, trust me I know

civic girder
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but when you add power to small and light? I'll make a hard pass

indigo coral
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the only saving grace of my car is that the passing power at 70 is surprisingly adequate compared to other slow cars

shadow osprey
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I mean it's 3400lbs it's not a challenger

indigo coral
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the main reason it passes okay is that its at 3k+ rpm at 70 GWmythiBlobLUL

civic girder
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The passing power in both the Prius and the RX-7 is adequate. They'll make a lot of noise and you use a lot of throttle, but that's fun

shadow osprey
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It's more fun to drive slow cars fast cause you can actually rev them out and feel like you're doing something

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fast cars you hit second gear and you gotta slow down

civic girder
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I also hardly ever pass. Like I can probably count on my hands how many times I passed on purpose in the last 3 months

indigo coral
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I never pass on surface streets

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ever

shadow osprey
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only draw back

indigo coral
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but on the highway I routinely do

shadow osprey
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surface streets?

indigo coral
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like one lane each way type roads

civic girder
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On the highway, I set my cruise and/or maintain speed

shadow osprey
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oh yeah no

civic girder
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on 2 lane highways, I only pass if the car in front is going way to slow

shadow osprey
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unless the guys doing 30 in a 50 (and we have plenty of people who do that) -___-

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I also live far enough out that there's passing lines pretty much everywhere

civic girder
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the only thing I think the RX-7 is lacking is power in 5th gear

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the ratio is so whack

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like, 3/4 throttle to maintain speed uphill at 70mph is just confusing

shadow osprey
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it's OD on a NA rotary, what do you want

civic girder
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but then you drop to 4th and 3/4 will make you fly uphill

shadow osprey
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"fly" is a relative term but yes

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πŸ˜‚

civic girder
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yes, relative

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but 5th has power at around 45-55mph

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but loses all power at 60+

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it confuses me

indigo coral
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I'm totally fine with people driving slow when theres an actual reason

civic girder
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^

indigo coral
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but if its nice out, dry, and you're doing 50 in a 60, get the fuck off the highway

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lol

civic girder
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yep

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even worse when they're doing 48 in a 65

indigo coral
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I know that sounds super impatient, but if you're a good 15+ mph below the flow of traffic, you're a hazard.

civic girder
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or 35 in a 55

indigo coral
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I saw someone deadass doing a 25 in a 70

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when its 65F and sunny out

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like..

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why.

shadow osprey
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Dude the amount of times I catch people going under the speed limit in the fast lane

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that'll literally get you killed around me

civic girder
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oh god

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yep

indigo coral
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if someone is flying up behind me I'll move over if I can

shadow osprey
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People go 20 over and those are the guys just keeping up with traffic

indigo coral
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I try not to go that fast in the fast lane, usually no more than about 10 over

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and then vacate once I've passed the annoyance

shadow osprey
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As long as you get out when you're done passing no one cars

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I drive pretty fast and I don't even cruise in the fast lane if I can help it

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no point

civic girder
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675 (the highway by me) is insane. It's a 65, right.
Left lane: people are going at least 75
middle lane: can be anywhere from 68 to 72
right lane: 65 to 69

indigo coral
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I do stay in the fast lane for the last half mile or so of the highway because the slow lane has to merge in lol

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cause the highway changes to a different one

shadow osprey
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lol

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fair enough

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but yeah there's always one guy doing 110 and I'm not trying to be his pancake

indigo coral
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normally that's a bad thing to do but this particular merge is nasty

shadow osprey
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I mean as long as you're not in there for miles then no one really cares

civic girder
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I normally pick the right lane, as I like to go between 66 and 69

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unless I have to pass for some reason

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which is rare

indigo coral
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its around a tight curve (one you have to slow down to 40 to not tip your car over), and right after you merge in, there's an overpass that drops down, AND there are people right/left turning across 3 lanes of highway at the same time

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its really just nasty.

civic girder
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trucks are rare and most people are flying, so

indigo coral
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so I stay in the fast lane on the previous highway, which lines me up to be in the slow lane of the new highway

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w/o having to merge

civic girder
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Ah yes

shadow osprey
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yeah no harm there

civic girder
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merging

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this morning, I was on the on ramp right

indigo coral
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yes, I know. It makes traffic worse to just hop over early blah blah blah.

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xD

civic girder
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there's two empty lanes of traffic

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fucking Chevy Express refuses to change lanes or slow down to let me merge

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he almost side swiped me

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cause he sped up as I was beginning to run out of on ramp

indigo coral
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I was getting on the highway one day and this Accord was in the fast lane, and as I'm merging in, they dip over REALLY quickly, no blinker, just out of the blu

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e

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they didn't even get off at the next ramp or anything

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they're just stupid

shadow osprey
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falcon stfu, i've been saying that's fine for the last 10 minutes lmao

indigo coral
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lol

civic girder
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yea, I see no problem

indigo coral
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I was also going to RCCC a couple months ago and doing about 75mph in the middle lane, in a 70 zone

civic girder
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I'd do the exact same thing

indigo coral
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this black chevy caliber (i think) came FLYING up next to me in the slow lane, cuts across in front of me, drops into the fast lane and takes off

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they barely* avoided losing it

civic girder
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jesus

indigo coral
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Like the car super wasn't cut out for that, and they were being completely reckless

shadow osprey
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chevy cavalier or dodge caliber

indigo coral
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yes

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cavalier

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that thing

civic girder
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ah

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the GM rust machine

indigo coral
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some shitty little car

shadow osprey
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lol yup

indigo coral
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another time

civic girder
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second loudest car, second only to the Grand Caravan

indigo coral
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I was on a 55mph country road, winding through osme nice hills

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good driving road tbh

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fun even in my RX

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and I'm coming around this bend. Motorcycle in front of me, explorer/expedition in front of them.

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All of a sudden the Expedition slammed on the brakes, like really hard, and the motorcycle dipped off into the shoulder and I nailed the brakes too

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A nissan versa had tried to pass at 80+mph on a blind corner

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the Expedition nearly avoided a serious collision

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like probably fatal for both sides

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so yeah.

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Shit like that is why I have a dashcam now

civic girder
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Yea

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I am going to get a dashcam soon

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one with a decent amount of battery so I can use it in the RX-7 too

indigo coral
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for when tards like that almost cause problems. If i ever get wrapped up in it I can have evidence it wasnt my fault lol.

civic girder
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oh yea

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people will try to blame you for shit that they were 2000000000000000% responsible for

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like that Versa

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if both drivers had somehow survived

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you can bet your ass the Versa would have tried to put blame on the Expidition

indigo coral
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I'm sure.

civic girder
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now, the police would probably laugh in the Versa's face, but they would definitely try

indigo coral
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They werent doing anything wrong, not even speeding

civic girder
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yep

indigo coral
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I tried just plopping my phone on a mount and using that as a dashcam but the camera wasn't wide angle enough

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would probably work wiht my new McLaren phone but it is unnecessary

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now i have a real dashcam xD

civic girder
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mclaren phone

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the fuck

indigo coral
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oneplus 7t pro 5g mclaren

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lol

civic girder
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never heard of it

indigo coral
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you've never heard of oneplus phones?

civic girder
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oneplus yes

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mclaren version, no

indigo coral
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they had a mclaren edition of the OP6T, and now the OP7T Pro

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I got the phone for "free" via T-Mobile

civic girder
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I was never informed of this

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my phone might work for dash cam

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it has a wide angle

indigo coral
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what phone?

civic girder
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Zenfone 6

indigo coral
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i know ive asked

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ah

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nice

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oh oyu have the swivel camera

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how does that work for you?

civic girder
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but I've used it to record video in the RX-7, uh, that went....well

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the flip camera is cool, but I don't use it that often

indigo coral
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my phone has the motorized pop up camera

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its quite nice

civic girder
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my camera is more useful for getting better angles on things while still being able to see the screen

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I never take selfies

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ever

indigo coral
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I rarely do

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my previous phone was the OnePlus 6T

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ffs i can't type

civic girder
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I can't recall a single selfie I've ever taken since I first got a phone

shadow osprey
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I wanted a 6T when they first came out

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Looked good for the price

indigo coral
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It's a really good phone

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I got it for cheap, used it for a couple months, then switched to the 7T Pro

shadow osprey
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Yeah i mean it's a couple generations old now

indigo coral
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I wouldnt have switched but we were already switching carriers and it would have been stupid to not take advantage of the offers

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aka trade in a galaxy s9 and get a 900$ phone for free

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xD

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'free'

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i got the s9 for cheap on craigslist

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the underscreen fingerprint sensor is awesome

civic girder
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well, I should probably go eat and then go to bed

indigo coral
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the one on the 6T was a bit slow, but was so damn cool I didn't care

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the new one is just as quick as a capactive sensor

dense shard
indigo coral
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doug reviewed one too

dense shard
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hot take: The PT Cruiser was the best car Chrysler made in the last 20 years.

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It's by far the most memorable.

indigo coral
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thats really not saying much

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chrysler makes dogshit

dense shard
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He found the cleanest PT Cruiser.

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Even the wood trim is still clean.

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A modern crossover.

indigo coral
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no its not lol

dense shard
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Kia Soul and Toyota CH-R are considered crossovers.

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So is the Nissan Kicks.

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Cars without an AWD option. Crossovers by virtue of tall seating position.

indigo coral
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does that make my RX a real suv then

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its got AWD

shadow osprey
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It always was?

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and AWD doesn't make something a crossover?

dense shard
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Not sure what is what anymore tbh.

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In my eyes crossovers were always sedan based SUVs that could do less than ideal road conditions.

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An SUV will be based on a truck ideally.

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So Tahoe, Expedition, 4Runner... but with so many things moving to unibody... well that definition is just... not relevant anymore.

shadow osprey
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Yeah framed vehicles are just fullsize SUVs now

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weighs too much

indigo coral
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too bad the RX is not a V8

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should have been

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reee

dense shard
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Get a GX.

indigo coral
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the old ones are ugly af

eager kite
indigo coral
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oh for god sakes

eager kite
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xd

indigo coral
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you're insufferable

eager kite
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I didn't make it

indigo coral
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Lucid Air production is revealed in April, production starting Q4. Yay!

wheat hatch
night current
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Ayyy

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That'll be exciting

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It'd be sad if it was plagued with more problems than a Tesla tho

fair bronze
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Yeah I'm stoked

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Can't contain my excitement

indigo coral
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Yikes

stoic ledge
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Oof

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They were probably all shipped to πŸ‡³πŸ‡±

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December 2019: 12.089
January 2020 (so far): 18

indigo coral
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yikes

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did you lose incentives?

stoic ledge
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They are now twice as expensive as a company car Pogey

(still extremely cheap, but I don't think a boat with Dutch Model 3's arrived yet)

indigo coral
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Makes sense. Tesla's immediate stop selling almost in its entirety when the area loses incentives.

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US just lost EV incentives, Tesla's sales are tanking

fair bronze
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Seems about right

indigo coral
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Evs aren't really... Ready for mainstream

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I'm a nerd and would totally get one, but most people don't want one

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They're getting better, but aren't ready yet.

normal temple
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Run 10000 9V batteries

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Boom, cheap battery pack

stoic ledge
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Except you have to replace it every time

indigo coral
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Lol

stoic ledge
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xD

indigo coral
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Not sure if 10k 9vs would be cheaper

fair bronze
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The battery is the main issue with EVs

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Everything else is fine

indigo coral
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Charging isn't great coverage either

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Superchargers are good, but there needs to be way more of them

fair bronze
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All battery related

indigo coral
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Once solid state batteries are feasible lots of the problems go away

fair bronze
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Also the fact that most 'regular' electricity isn't clean either

indigo coral
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Yeah but it's still cleaner than gas, over time.

fair bronze
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Depends, it's mostly just moving the problem away from the car itself

indigo coral
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Keyword over time. If you buy a new EV every year, you're far worse than a gas car.

fair bronze
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Also I don't see anyone talking about what happens when a massive tsunami of dead batteries has to be disposed of

indigo coral
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yeah

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Can't wait for next gen battery tech

fair bronze
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Right now it's just all bad basically

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New battery tech should solve most of the issues

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Who knows when that will arrive

indigo coral
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It's not bad necessarily, for someone like me a Model 3 would be great, but it's not ready for widespread adoption

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It's not good enough for Mass production.

fair bronze
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I don't mean they're bad cars or bad for you, I mean bad in the long term when the batteries reach EOL

indigo coral
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oh yeah

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For sure

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that's something I'm glad Tesla is considering. Their chemistry seems to (in general) last way longer than others

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Leaf etc

fair bronze
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I read the Leaf doesn't even have a way to regulate the temperature of the batteries

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Don't know if it's true though

indigo coral
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it doesn't

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Almost all the first gen Leaf cars are 40%+ degraded

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Quite a number have completely died

fair bronze
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I wonder if it's the same story with Renault EVs since they have a relationship

indigo coral
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Bjorn Nyland showed one that was on its last couple % of life, had like 10 miles fully charged

fair bronze
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oof

indigo coral
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iirc it was a 2014

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Which is just embarrassing

fair bronze
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It is

civic girder
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My fuel economy on this tank of gas is gonna be shit

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I've been trying to keep the engine running as much as the computer will let me

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and making it rev high when traffic/road conditions/speed limits allow

indigo coral
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Oof

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Your shit fuel economy is like 30mpg tho

lethal garnet
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bruh why do i get more chicks talking to me when i haves my prius

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than when i drive my uncles car

dense shard
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tax credits are dead?

lethal garnet
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tbf i get actual car people with my uncles car

dense shard
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Alright Elon. you said you'd be fine without it.

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Prove yourself right.

lethal garnet
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lol

dense shard
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This is the truest test. Can your product maintain demand without incentive?

lethal garnet
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we’re still gettin one anyway

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so doesn’t matter to us

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just need a house first

dense shard
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I just need Tesla to cut their prices in half.

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35-40k starting price remains silly.

lethal garnet
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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

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that’s why we buy second hand

indigo coral
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2nd hand Model 3 costs as much or MORE than a brand new one

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its stupid

tight cypress
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why tesla so expensive

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yes

fair bronze
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batteries

lethal garnet
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i’m goin for a model s or x as mine and my brother is getting a 3

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probably a p100d

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from 2018 or something

dense shard
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Tesla are expensive because they are memes.

lethal garnet
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meh i just love the way electric cars drive

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and why not just spend the money ig

dense shard
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ig?

wheat hatch
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I need Tesla to make a little electric shitbox

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Same size as @stoic ledge car

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Would be a lot of fun

tight cypress
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now introducing bmw soopra

stoic ledge
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@wheat hatch
Imagine a car sized like the Corsa but electric

||Corsa-e, e-208, Zoe||

xD

wheat hatch
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E-e?

stoic ledge
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e-E-e!

wheat hatch
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E-Γ©-e

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@stoic ledge Forgot those existed lmao

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Nice catch

indigo coral
stoic ledge
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Buddy of mine ordered the Corsa-e πŸ™ƒ

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In bright orange GWloopyGok

wheat hatch
indigo coral
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nice

wheat hatch
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Driving a reflective vest

indigo coral
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PogChomp I got an update for my OP7T Pro

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Lets see how this goes

indigo coral
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nice

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how much range

stoic ledge
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Yeah got a 2019.12 security update today on my OP5

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Uhm 200 miles iirc

indigo coral
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the update claims to fix a "gps issue" that lots of ppl have reported

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...ive had no problem with gps

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lol

fair bronze
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@stoic ledge How is your squeaky engine

stoic ledge
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Still squeeking Pogey

wheat hatch
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Hey that looks pretty nice

fair bronze
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oof

wheat hatch
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Not a big fan of opel, but looks nice

stoic ledge
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Going to the mechanic next Monday for further diagnosis

fair bronze
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Isn't it a belt or pulley

stoic ledge
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Corsa-e is quite fancy GWloopyGok

wheat hatch
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I should actually stop being so simplistic and go with bolder colours

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I usually only like black, white and grey cars

stoic ledge
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Nope it's the other side of the engine... Where nearly nothing is xD

fair bronze
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@wheat hatch You're the average dutchman buying a car

indigo coral
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inb4 engine forked

stoic ledge
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My car is both black and white Pogey

fair bronze
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Haha

tight cypress
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mine is rust,silver and black

stoic ledge
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Oof

indigo coral
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mine is desert bronze metallic, beige and dent

wheat hatch
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@fair bronze I'll take that as good criticism of my lack of taste

stoic ledge
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Oof

wheat hatch
fair bronze
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@tight cypress Your paint is named Brun Rouille

tight cypress
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yes

dense shard
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watch the squeak be the alternator.

indigo coral
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oh boy

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thats usually a nightmare

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big $$

dense shard
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My suzuki had an alternator squeak. It was fine for a couple of years.

fair bronze
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You had a Suzuki?

tight cypress
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my whole engine hates me

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besauce i drive through ditches

dense shard
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yep

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A kei car.

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Suzuki Cervo. Even had a turbo.

fair bronze
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An old one?

indigo coral
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that... looks like a good way to die

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if you get in an accident

fair bronze
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Just don't think about it

tight cypress
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not even bad

stoic ledge
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Iirc he had a newer one

tight cypress
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you will die inside these

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for sure

indigo coral
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wtf is that

fair bronze
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Brommobiel

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RIP Aart Staartjes

indigo coral
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safety is a good thing about my rx lol

indigo coral
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6 airbags + well built + safely designed

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it looks like a chevy spark

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kinda

fair bronze
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Ah a newer one

stoic ledge
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I also have 6 airbags Pogey

tight cypress
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i have 0 airbags

indigo coral
fair bronze
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Girls generally at least have 2

indigo coral
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LOL

fair bronze
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That's sexist

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I want airbags too

eager kite
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All talk?

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Or are they actually serious?

tight cypress
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airbags are useless

stoic ledge
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About VW: we shall see

fair bronze
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If you drive into a tree they don't do much

stoic ledge
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The future will tell

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No VW fan, but the ID.3 looks promising on paper

tight cypress
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electric cars look so bad

stoic ledge
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Nothing revolutionary, but competitive

eager kite
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@tight cypress ur pfp looks so bad

indigo coral
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you're a dick lmao

fair bronze
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We all know he is

eager kite
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Bruh look at it

tight cypress
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@eager kite thx

fair bronze
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Just ignore him

tight cypress
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hmm

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mmh

fair bronze
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You would need more than a 1.3 to drift that

tight cypress
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you can drift anything

eager kite
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⬜️$185K
⬜️192mi range
⬜️0-60 in 2.6s
⬜️NO AutoPilot...

fair bronze
#

If it's slippery enough

tight cypress
#

who needs autopilot

stoic ledge
#

Driving fun:

  • Tesla: 0/10
  • Porsche: 10/10
tight cypress
#

in general

eager kite
#

Taycan is for rich porshe fanboys

tight cypress
#

so is tesla

stoic ledge
#

On paper a Dacia is also the better deal than a Porsche. Driving dynamics is where it's at tho

tight cypress
#

99k bruh

fair bronze
#

@stoic ledge The Dacia Sandero offers way better value than any Tesla

stoic ledge
#

Yes

#

I agree

eager kite
#

I wouldn't call 40k rich but I guess that's my perspective

fair bronze
#

Same amount of wheels and tires

stoic ledge
#

Tbh you don't need anything more

fair bronze
#

Same amount of seats

tight cypress
#

i mean

fair bronze
#

It has lights

stoic ledge
#

Lol 40k is rich boi

indigo coral
#

hell my 0$ car does the same thing a tesla does fundamentally

stoic ledge
#

And you were just referring to a Model S

tight cypress
#

40k is rich

indigo coral
#

it moves your ass down the road without using your feet

#

(to walk at least)

fair bronze
#

It has a radio

tight cypress
#

woah

#

an radio

indigo coral
eager kite
#

I mean it's def not average, but you don't need to be 1% to afford it

indigo coral
#

#firstworldperspective

#

40k is a hell of a lot of money

tight cypress
#

it is

fair bronze
#

It also has 2 windscreen wipers, blades included

tight cypress
#

i will never have useless 40k lying around

indigo coral
#

^

tight cypress
#

maybe 200€

eager kite
#

Yep, most people buying cars aren't doing it all in cash upfront

indigo coral
#

guess how much financial obligation I have on my RX

#

none.

eager kite
#

Good for you

tight cypress
#

an 2013 ford transit did cost 16k in 2017

#

i poor yes

fair bronze
#

The Dacia Sandero also has like 800km range

#

Amazing

tight cypress
#

and it is electric?

indigo coral
#

no

tight cypress
#

not so special then

fair bronze
#

I'm just saying it is amazing value

tight cypress
#

how much it is

indigo coral
#

i mean i only get 225 miles (comfortably) on a tank

#

so

fair bronze
#

€14k

tight cypress
#

not bad

#

the interior looks nice

fair bronze
#

Right?

indigo coral
#

course assuming a 3$ average gas price since 1999, and 133k miles, it cost 22,166$ in gas to drive the car for 21 years

tight cypress
#

i would daily drive that

indigo coral
#

oh and avg 18mpg

#

thats a lot less than a new car

tight cypress
#

20l/50km

#

on renoolt

#

economic

fair bronze
#

You replaced the gas pedal with a switch

indigo coral
#

full send or no send

fair bronze
#

Exactly

indigo coral
#

my car is weird in terms of how it decides when it allows the car to rev up and when it decides "fuck you, 2800rpm is all you get"

tight cypress
#

hmm

fair bronze
#

That automatic life

tight cypress
#

fuckin hell i dont know what this word is in english

indigo coral
#

wtf I just found a Radeon Pro Duo on craigslist

#

o.o

tight cypress
#

transelator says soot

fair bronze
#

Soot

tight cypress
#

soot doesnt sound right

indigo coral
#

I lowkey want a 295x2

dense shard
#

40k is more than what most people can afford.

civic girder
#

Yea

eager kite
#

as I said, above average

#

but that =/= rich

#

only someone with a ton of disposable income can afford to get the Taycan, because it's only practical use is to drive to work and back or to the golf course with 1 other person

#

Can't really (and wouldn't want to) do any long distance traveling in it

#

and it can't hold much stuff in it anyway

#

It's just a rich person's toy

dense shard
#

That doesn't change the fact that 40k is pushing it for the average American.

eager kite
#

Model S and X also require a lot of disposable income, but it can actually replace an existing family car, making it more than a rich person's toy

dense shard
#

Loan delinquencies are hitting all time highs, 10 year loans are a thing.

#

The entire auto industry is top heavy on offerings.

eager kite
#

yes ik 40k isn't achievable for the average american

#

it would be a significant portion of their income, just not practical

dense shard
#

And that's why I'm a proponent of genuinely cheap EVs.

#

I'm talking cheap without incentives.

#

And it shouldn't be a cheap compliance EV. We're wiser than that. People aren't stupid.

eager kite
#

there are cheap evs, they just are commuter cars atm

stoic ledge
#

> imagine being able to afford a new commuter car

dense shard
#

Cheap EVs... such as?

stoic ledge
#

MG ZS Pogey

tight cypress
#

@stoic ledge how much does dat corsa cost?

dense shard
#

Let's stick to the US market.

tight cypress
#

the electric one

dense shard
#

The MG ZS is legit cheap and functional.

stoic ledge
#

Uhm starts at 30k EUR

dense shard
#

But I wouldn't touch anything below 40k in the US right now.

tight cypress
#

oh

dense shard
#

for the EV side of things at any rate.

tight cypress
#

30k for an 0pel

#

ℒ️

dense shard
#

Europe is about to get a shit ton of cool things.

stoic ledge
#

30k for an Opel isn't special tbh

tight cypress
#

cool

#

what will i get

#

tell me

dense shard
#

30k for a Saturn is radical.

stoic ledge
#

But for a Corsa its5 quite a lot

dense shard
#

It's like 90k for a VW.

stoic ledge
#

Specced like the one my buddy ordered, it's €39.995

dense shard
#

oof

stoic ledge
#

For a EV Corsa

dense shard
#

oh

#

That sounds better?

tight cypress
#

my unkkel bought an corsa for 1k

#

fuckin hell it drifts on gravel

#

without handbrake

stoic ledge
#

Still quite expensive tho xD

#

Lolz

#

His spec is fully loaded tho

#

Even massaging seats

tight cypress
#

huh

#

massage

stoic ledge
#

Matrix LED headlights

tight cypress
#

www.cornhub

eager kite
#

the ioniq is starting 30k

#

so that's 10k less than the model 3

tight cypress
#

weird car brands/models episode 20000

stoic ledge
#

> Imagine having 30k xD

tight cypress
#

imagine having 10k

eager kite
#

bruh most people ain't buying their cars in cash

tight cypress
#

i do

eager kite
#

ok, you aren't most people then

#

idk why people are afraid of loans

#

like sure

tight cypress
#

i mean

#

debt

dense shard
#

Because you pay more over time.

eager kite
#

you can fuck yourself if you aren't careful

dense shard
#

People should be more afraid of loans in the US.

eager kite
#

but you can also make a ton of money from it

tight cypress
#

i cant even pay it back

dense shard
#

But people are stupid and only look at short term cost.

stoic ledge
#

Here's z crazy thought: spend money you actually have

dense shard
#

"oh I can pay 100 dollars a month (FOR TEN FREAKING YEARS)"

#

"I don't like my current 4 year old car... I'm gonna roll my old loan into a new one cause I want a car with android auto. Pogey "

eager kite
#

even if you had the cash to buy a car outright, ur probably better off taking a loan for it and investing the money you have

#

depending on credit and market performance obv

tight cypress
#

@stoic ledge yes

#

so 350€

dense shard
#

6 years down the line, their car breaks down, no warranty, and they still have 4 years of payments left.

tight cypress
#

nissan sunny here i come

stoic ledge
#

Inb4 next crisis, losing all thr money you have + being stuck on a loan

GWloopyGok

dense shard
#

I paid in cash. I'm risk averse.

eager kite
#

even if the market goes down it's not like all your money is gone

dense shard
#

And I'm not gonna give the local dealership the satisfaction of making a profit off me.

#

Your money may not be gone, but you won't have enough to cover payments.

stoic ledge
#

Well you paid for it, it's yours. You can do with it what you want. Drive it of a cliff, nobody cares

eager kite
#

ok that's fine, but you will find it much harder to gain wealth that way

dense shard
#

I think the feds care.

tight cypress
#

im not even buying cars from an dealership

dense shard
#

Easy come easy go.

#

Slow way is the way to go.

eager kite
#

not when it comes to expanding wealth

dense shard
#

Being thrifty has benefitted me more than taking risks has.

eager kite
#

that's how you maintain wealth

dense shard
#

I'm fine with maintaining it.

eager kite
#

ok, can't say you're wrong for taking that path

stoic ledge
#

Bwah I'm not in that bad of a financial position tbh, no debts, no student loans, I was able to buy a quite recent car (4 years old) even before I was allowef to drive... So overall I'm not doing too shabby

#

Maybe I'll invest if I have enough it won't hurt that much if I lose something

#

Maybe my BTC will quadruple xD

indigo coral
#

My car is older than my poor ass

stoic ledge
#

Oof

#

Is it old enough to drink tho Pogey

indigo coral
#

but wait, a Tesla will magically be free because of tax credits and lower gas costs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stoic ledge
#

Yes

eager kite
#

robotaxi πŸ‘Œ

dense shard
#

Only in Europe, Falcon.

#

We in the US have to take loans out for it.

wheat hatch
#

I'm also one of those who don't wanna spend money they don't have (unless it's for a house or something)

dense shard
#

But loans are free money, right?

wheat hatch
#

Just don't like the feeling of being in debt

tight cypress
#

so

#

if im takin an 2million loan

#

am rich=

stoic ledge
#

Basically

eager kite
#

Y'all got fearmongered into thinking all debt is bad

tight cypress
#

i dont want debt

#

im poor anyways

wheat hatch
#

I never said debt is bad, nor do I think it's bad

stoic ledge
#

Only debt I want: mortgage

wheat hatch
#

I just don't like being in debt for a car

eager kite
#

do you at least use sparingly a single credit card?

wheat hatch
#

House sure, car, nah

#

Nope, no credits cards here, only debit

eager kite
#

howtohavehighmortgageAPR.exe

wheat hatch
#

Maybe in the US, yes

stoic ledge
#

Sometimes on websites which don't use anything else, but otherwise debit cards yes ^Β°

wheat hatch
#

In the US I can understand why you would want a credit card and raise your credit score

stoic ledge
#

Amd that's my parents credit card, since > paying for a card to extend the pay for max 30 days

eager kite
#

Wait, ur saying you would make min payments?

stoic ledge
#

^^ yeah I heard something similar, but there's no such thing over here

#

How do you mean?

tight cypress
#

visa electron

eager kite
#

oh nvm, I just misread what u wrote

tight cypress
#

balance is 0.92€

stoic ledge
#

Oof

eager kite
#

well idk how it works elsewhere, but in the US if you don't use a credit card at all or are scared of debt, then you get fucked over when you try and apply for any kind of large loan

wheat hatch
#

Yeah, I can imagine that

#

Like I said, you have the credit score over there to think about

stoic ledge
#

They check your salary, current debts etc while giving a large loan over here (mortgage for example)

wheat hatch
#

So I can understand why you have a credit card in that case

tight cypress
#

here we profit by selling snuslinuth

#

30€

wheat hatch
#

Snus

indigo coral
#

I have a credit card, which is good, but you never ever carry a balance or your score is fked

eager kite
#

oh they do that here too, just that your credit score is also factored in

#

mainly for what APR you get if accepted

wheat hatch
#

yeah I don't think we have that here

stoic ledge
#

Credit score isn't a thing here

indigo coral
#

lucky

tight cypress
#

snusnus

indigo coral
#

Our credit score system is dumb

tight cypress
#

snus profits yes

stoic ledge
#

If I get a fixed job tomorrow with a nice monthly paycheck, I can get a big loan for a house asap

wheat hatch
#

Yah

indigo coral
#

I'd have to build credit for 5+ years of flawless payments to reasonably get a house loan at a decent APR

wheat hatch
#

Sheesh

#

That's harsh man

indigo coral
#

Plus have a high paying, stable job

dense shard
#

I use a credit card because I get cash back.

tight cypress
#

stable job=no job

dense shard
#

Fixed income lol

tight cypress
#

#govermentpays

wheat hatch
stoic ledge
#

> stable job=no job

Yikes

tight cypress
#

i mean

#

in finland you can get money without doin anythin

wheat hatch
#

That's scandinavia in general lol

tight cypress
#

i dont live in scandinavia

#

sou sÀÀd

stoic ledge
#

Well that's a thing here too... But that's not that much tbh, gets you in to social housing etc

#

Unless you have a serious health condition or something else why you can't work: just get a job and work for your money

tight cypress
#

dis

#

we get around 200-400€ per month

#

i think

#

im not sure

#

besauce aint 18

stoic ledge
#

Lol I even make more by working 1 day in the weekend xD

#

Ah

#

Lol

tight cypress
#

yeah

stoic ledge
#

So wait you're not 18 yet?

tight cypress
#

nope

stoic ledge
#

But you've had multiple cars?

#
  • kaas
#

πŸ§€

tight cypress
#

who said i had multiple cars

stoic ledge
#

I thought you did

tight cypress
#

2 cars

stoic ledge
#

The Megane, + something else before that

tight cypress
#

nissan primera&dis renoolt

stoic ledge
#

Well 2 is multiple isn't it? xD

tight cypress
#

maybe

wheat hatch
#

It sure ain't one lol

#

1 + 1 = ....1?

tight cypress
#

1+1=11

wheat hatch
#

Ah right

#

So you do have multiple!

stoic ledge
#

No 1 + 1 = 10

civic spoke
#

I saw something today.

wheat hatch
tight cypress
#

cool

civic spoke
#

An unmarked police.

stoic ledge
#

Multiple? Multipla!

tight cypress
#

now tell us what it was

civic spoke
#

On a motorcycle.

wheat hatch
indigo coral
#

We see loads of those

#

Lol

#

Unmarked cops are sneaky sometimes

civic spoke
#

Weirdly enough, the first one I have seen that was a motorcycle.

tight cypress
#

i havent seen police for months

fair bronze
#

I didn't know there is a Ε koda Citigo inside a Fiat Multipla

tight cypress
#

didnt know that my car had an working antenna

stoic ledge
#

I don't really see police that often tbh, and unmarked only in a car

tight cypress
#

i live in da countryside

civic spoke
#

Unmarked police are so damn hard to spot here.

tight cypress
#

1 police in uhhh

#

5 months?

#

or cop car

#

whatever

civic spoke
#

Would you guys ever suspect a grey Volvo V90?

fair bronze
#

5-cylinder turbo noise intensifies

civic spoke
#

Watching the season finale of Canada's Worst Driver.

#

They have one of the best 'worst' driver, and the absolite worst.

indigo coral
#

I spot tons of cops

#

like sometimes a 12+ in a day

indigo coral
#

damn, i need a bigger ssd

civic spoke
#

Same.

#

I only have a 256 GB one.

indigo coral
#

i have a 500gb 850 EVO that's almost full

#

but i dont want to get a QLC

fair bronze
#

Public transport exists for those people

civic spoke
#

840 Pro. star1 star2

indigo coral
#

the Crucial P1 1tb M.2 is 90 bucks but its QLC, which isn't great

#

a Samsung 970 Pro is 1tb MLC iirc, NVMe and its 170

civic spoke
#

My SSD is legit 7 years old now.

indigo coral
#

mine's a few years old too

tight cypress
#

so

#

is this cars

#

or tech

indigo coral
#

both

civic spoke
#

Yes.

tight cypress
#

yes

indigo coral
#

Linus TECH tips CARS channel

tight cypress
#

my ssd is 7 years old too

#

older than forknife players

indigo coral
#

in my dad's cnc computer in the garage he has one of the super early Intel SSDs

tight cypress
#

mine is kingston hyperx 3k

#

no idea why i still use it

civic spoke
#

My computer is old in general. I think around 6 years old for the main stuff.

indigo coral
#

most of my system is fairly new

tight cypress
#

mine 7 years old

civic spoke
#

4930k is a pretty solid CPU still.

tight cypress
#

competetly

indigo coral
#

ryzen 7 1700x, 32gb ddr4, and a brand new Seasonic Focus Plus Platinum 850w psu

#

yeah 4930k isn't bad

#

though its ivybridge E isn't it?

tight cypress
#

i5-4670k, 1050ti gaming x, 16gb ddr3 1600mhz, vs650

indigo coral
#

or is it haswell E?

tight cypress
#

please send help i need an new gpu

civic spoke
#

Ivy Bridge E

#

I'm super glad that I got 32 GB of RAM back when I did.

indigo coral
#

yeah I love having 32gb

civic spoke
indigo coral
#

still using 7 i see

civic spoke
#

Got the "This product is no longer supported" message the other day.

indigo coral
#

I'm on 10

tight cypress
#

7 is the best

indigo coral
#

7 is also unsupported now πŸ˜›

tight cypress
#

yeah

#

sou sÀÀd

civic spoke
#

SΓ₯ sΓ€d.

dense shard
#

I'm hapi with 10.

civic girder
#

I've never run into a problem with 10

#

same with 7, and 8

dense shard
#

My desktop blue screened 2 days ago.

civic girder
#

lmao

dense shard
#

Granted I hadn't updated it in 5 years.

civic girder
#

jesus

dense shard
#

It's retired from service. I use my laptop for everything.

civic girder
#

that sounds like a security breach waiting to happen

dense shard
#

I will run a few updates, and make it into a home server.

indigo coral
#

what kind of specs you got in it?

civic girder
#

get a Windows Server key for like $5

dense shard
#

The desktop?

indigo coral
#

ja

civic girder
#

my server is rebooting rn

indigo coral
#

my servers live out in the garage

#

lol

#

they're loud

stoic ledge
#

@civic spoke imagine the Canada Worse driver doing all that with a manual Pogey

I feel bad for the Mustang tho GWmythiFeelsBadMan

dense shard
#

i7-860, formerly a dual 5850 setup, now one, 8 gigs of RAM and 3 spinny drives.

indigo coral
#

nice

#

that's what one of my dad's cnc systems is

#

similar

#

i7 950, Radeon HD 6850, 16gb ram, and a Gigabyte GA X58A UD3R

civic girder
#

you're using legit servers @indigo coral ?
my server is quiet πŸ˜›

civic spoke
#

I want to do those challenges in a manual πŸ‘€

civic girder
#

Gigashit X58

indigo coral
#

yes, I'm using legit servers.

civic girder
#

I have one of those boards, they suck big pp

indigo coral
#

I have 2x 2U HP ProLiant DL380G6

#

each one has

civic girder
#

ew

#

HP

#

gross

indigo coral
#

dual 6 core Xeons and 48gb RAM each

#

hey i got them for 20 bucks

#

so

civic girder
#

It's HP

indigo coral
#

they work

civic girder
#

for now

indigo coral
#

each one runs Windows Server 2016

civic girder
#

good

#

My server is a Dell Precision T7500 workstation running Windows Server 2019

indigo coral
#

Nice

civic girder
#

dual Xeon X5660s (6 core, 12 threads each)

#

22GB of ECC DDR3 per CPU

indigo coral
#

similar cpu in my servers

civic spoke
#

22 GB? starO

indigo coral
#

48gb in mine >:)

civic girder
#

44GB for the whole system

civic spoke
#

22 GB is just an odd number.

indigo coral
#

oh and the server has a GT 430

civic spoke
#

Same for 44

indigo coral
#

just for a not-motherboard-graphics display output

civic girder
#

Half the modules are one or two GB

#

and the other half are 8GB

civic spoke
#

Figured.

indigo coral
#

a bunch of mine is 4gb, some are 2

#

etc

civic girder
indigo coral
#

Nice

civic spoke
#

I never liked miss-matching RAM.

civic girder
#

I don't mind

#

was also cheaper

indigo coral
#

the biggest annoyance I ahve with my servers is that the damn front bays are only 2.5in

#

REEEEE.

#

might end up building a nas to go in the house

civic girder
#

the workstation came with some shit E series Xeon and a bunch of the smol DIMMs. I got a pair of matched Xeons for like $16 total, and a bangin deal on 36GB of 8GB DIMMs. $50, iirc, for the second CPU riser board

indigo coral
#

your cpus are on riser boards?

civic girder
#

and the CPU riser board came with a free Xeon, even though it wasn't supposed tooo

#

only the secondary CPU is on a riser

indigo coral
#

ah

#

we seriously need to do better backing stuff up at my house lol.

#

I'm probably going to get 4x 4tb hard drives

civic girder
#

so should I

indigo coral
#

a computer store near me has loads of them for a good price

civic girder
#

my server isn't setup for anything besides game hosting rn, and I stopped backing up literally anything

stoic ledge
#

@civic spoke we have a similar show here (De slechtste chauffeur van Nederland a.k.a The Worse Dutch Driver) and they use manuals Pogey

indigo coral
#

Depending exactly how much they cost, I might get 8x4tb and build one offsite to back up on

civic girder
#

iirc 4TB standard user drives are $100 a pop

indigo coral
#

theyre cheaper than that at this computer store

civic girder
#

if you want actual NAS drives, I think you pay upwards of $130

indigo coral
#

something like 40 each if I recall correctly

civic girder
#

$40 for a 4TB?!?!?!??

indigo coral
#

yes

#

they have big boxes of them

civic girder
#

HOLY FUCK

#

I need me some of those

indigo coral
#

I briefly had an AX1200 from them but ended up returning it due to nasty coil whine

civic girder
#

what store?

indigo coral
#

dont blame them for not hearing it though, their warehouse is fairly loud

#

RE-PC

#

its a cool place

civic girder
#

must be a local thing

indigo coral
#

yeah

civic girder
#

damn, wish we had something like that around here

#

Closest parts retailer is Best Buy. Best parts retailer around here is Microcenter, and they are an hour away

indigo coral
#

we don't have a microcenter

#

rip

civic girder
#

Microcenter has a lot of shit, but they're prices aren't that much better than buying online

#

and Microcenter case selection is literal trash

eager kite
civic girder
#

their PSU selection isn't that great either

indigo coral
#

I ended up getting my psu on amazon

#

125$, Seasonic Focus Plus Platinum 850

civic girder
#

I got a Seasonic focus + plat 750 for like $110

#

for my gaming PC

#

tfw your gaming PC has 4x the storage of your server

indigo coral
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I run mine at 3.9ghz

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no voltage increase, just clocked up a bit

civic girder
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I can't use snip tool to copy pics of my other PCs' specs, so I'll have to either link pcpp lists or just rattle off specs

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I run my 2600x at stock

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didn't feel the need to OC

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especially when my RAM was a complete bitch to get running at 3000Mhz

indigo coral
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Mine refuses to run over 2666 w/ 4 sticks

civic girder
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what brand RAM/mobo?

civic spoke
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I use ASUS RAM and Mobo. πŸ‘€

indigo coral
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AsRock Killer SLI/ac X370 & 32gb of 3200mhz Corsair Vengeance

civic girder
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ah, Corsair RAM

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that's your problem

indigo coral
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nah

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first gen Ryzen just has a crappy IMC

civic spoke
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Oh, wait. Yeah. I use Corsair RAM. Forgot about it for a second.

civic girder
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My Vengeance RAM barely even works

civic spoke
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Corsair Dominator Platinum.

civic girder
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it freaks out if I mess with anything

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I have to use specific settings or they cause my PC to fail POST

civic spoke
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Haven't had any real issues with my computer for a long, long time.

indigo coral
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Mine posts up to 3200 without issue, but its not stable in Windows

civic girder
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all of my problems have been from my RAM, lmao

civic spoke
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At first I had a crappy PSU. So I replaced that with a RM750.

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And the GTX680 died on me. But that's about it.

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Got a GTX970 through warranty.

civic girder
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:galaxybrain:

indigo coral
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I had an old Corsair TX 650, now my brother is using it

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but we need to get him a new one

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cause he got an expensive gpu

civic girder
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me and my broke ass trying to use emojis from other servers

civic spoke
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Need Nitro or something.

civic girder
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yea, I do

indigo coral
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we dont have a htpc lol

civic girder
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Running Windows 7 Pro, because of course it is

civic spoke
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I used a Q6600 with my last PC.

stoic ledge
indigo coral
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0

civic girder
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-100

civic spoke
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Ahh, yes. The XBONE.

stoic ledge
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xD

civic spoke
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The X Box that wasn't the first. Yet it called One.

stoic ledge
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It was "all in One" according to Microhard

civic spoke
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Yeah, I know. Meant to be the next watercooler.

dense shard
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sure why not

civic girder
dense shard
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MS looked at the results and realized a lot of people were using consoles as media centers.

civic spoke
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Drill them. And make a necklace.

stoic ledge
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I still play split screen ofteb so I still like consoles...

dense shard
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It was only fair to design a new console with those features in mind.

stoic ledge
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Keychain CPUs Pogey

civic girder
stoic ledge
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Nice socks Pogey

civic girder
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thxmn

fathom socket
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I have a billion RX 580's.

civic spoke
stoic ledge
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Noice

fathom socket
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Two 1070 TI's

civic girder
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all my random CPUs work, so I'd rather not do that

fathom socket
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There Vega 64's.