that poor engine is going to die
#cars
indigo coral
dense shard
Probably soon.
indigo coral
despite driving a car with a hot turd of an engine, at least its not a tiny 4cyl with turbos and all that crap
dense shard
I fully expect my car to make it to 300k and beyond.
fathom socket
I have new 4 cylinder cars come into the shop all the time with all sorts of problems
indigo coral
(now to be clear its still overworked but not as bad as the tiny 4 cyls)
dense shard
And what kinds of "new" cars/
fathom socket
Mostly with the cylinder deactivation and VVT.
I have a lot of GM 4 cylinders.
A fair amount of Fords.
dense shard
Good thing I don't drive domestic.
fathom socket
A couple Hondas, Subarus, and one toyota.
dense shard
Yeah... I'm gonna say that it's not a cylinder count issue.
Rather that american cars are crap.
indigo coral
some american cars are crap*
fathom socket
Quite the opposite.
indigo coral
anything from FCA is bound to be garbage.
dense shard
many GMs and Fords
only a few Japanese cars
indigo coral
Some fords and gms are turds (powershit transmission anyone?)
dense shard
dunno man
indigo coral
and tesla has their own fair share of problems
fathom socket
I find that the V8s are still very good.
indigo coral
but you can get good american cars
dense shard
Your anecdote seems to be painting a dire picture for the US.
indigo coral
the ecoboost engines are good, but overcomplicated
indigo coral
but when you're putting a 4 cylinder in a 5k lb SUV
dense shard
Don't bullshit me.
indigo coral
thats fucking stupid
fathom socket
Don't bullshit me.
indigo coral
ohboy, here we go
fathom socket
I was making a statement based off of my experiences.
dense shard
You said all.
fathom socket
And you immediately have to contradict me.
dense shard
Your anecdote said otherwise.
I said I disagree.
I'm sorry that disagreeing caused you mental anguish.
If you dislike 4 poppers, fine.
Doesn't mean you need to go around shitting on them.
indigo coral
i dislike them when they're overused and overstressed, and put in the wrong vehicles
dense shard
Yes, we can agree on that.
indigo coral
(Also there should have been a Lexus CT F)
dense shard
But to say all are bad is a bit disingenuous.
fathom socket
I'm sorry if I caused I stress among you and the Honda Vtec fan boy crowd.
dense shard
I drive a Toyota, but nice try.
dense shard
swing and a miss
fathom socket
You are all the same.
fathom socket
Driving little imports.
dense shard
buddy
indigo coral
does VVTi count as vtec fanboy 👀 👀
dense shard
Conradish is revving up his engine.
indigo coral
also "little"
dense shard
He's about to go on a long polemic about how the Celica from the 90s is the best car ever made.
fathom socket
Revving my 6.6l 600+ whp Duramax.
fathom socket
No I'm not.
dense shard
You have 400 more horsepower than Falcon.
But Falcon has something you don't.
An ultra rare first year RX.
indigo coral
a lexus badge
fathom socket
I'm going to go on about how the 12 valve Cummins and the LS V8 are the best.
dense shard
also that.
indigo coral
my car is a subcompact suv but its not tiny like an old civic or something
dense shard
You are welcome to your opinion conrad.
But frankly your dismissive attitude is a bit...
much
fathom socket
Will your car ever see 1 million miles?
dense shard
I'm here to celebrate call cars, all engines, and driving for fun.
indigo coral
probably
dense shard
This isn't a competition.
indigo coral
with a couple trans rebuilds
fathom socket
Not likely.
indigo coral
i routinely see 1st gen RX with 500k+ miles
dense shard
whatever you say bud
indigo coral
on a well cared for original engine
dense shard
Maybe I'll die on the way.
indigo coral
people commute in them like crazy
indigo coral
hell I've seen some on my local craigslist with 400k
dense shard
For get the Million Mile Lexus LS.
indigo coral
(though mine doesn't bode well for the future because I've already had to do vcg and am only at 133k)
fathom socket
You were the one who started giving me shit for saying something that in my case appears to be true.
indigo coral
if it was on the OG trans that would be f*cking impressive
dense shard
But your reaction of call us all VTEC fart can ricers is unfair.
indigo coral
time to put a fartcan on my rx
dense shard
I said it, but you felt it was okay to attack falcon here?
dense shard
Eastman as well by extension
fathom socket
Your reaction of calling all American cars garbage unfair.
indigo coral
like that black one in the pic
fathom socket
I never attacked falcon.
indigo coral
thatd be hilarious
dense shard
I've had bad experiences with American cars.
civic girder
I doubt the RX-7 will reach a million miles in my lifetime, at least not with me behind the wheel. However, I'll haunt any of my descendants who either sell it or put something that isn't a carbureted rotary under the hood. And before you say, I know that it'll take at least 10 engine rebuilds to even have a chance, but fuck it I like the car
dense shard
You said "you are all the same"
I don't have multiple personality disorder.
So "you all" tends to be pretty unequivocal.
civic girder
I've had both good and bad experiences with American cars.
fathom socket
Referring to the people who live not in my country giving me shit for what comes out of it.
civic girder
Just like I've had good and bad experiences with German and Japanese cars
dense shard
I'm sorry I attacked you, but you lashing out at others here is unfair to them.
indigo coral
i mean durability is a valid reason to get a Lexus GS F
that bitch will last forever
fathom socket
I never lashed out at anybody besides you.
indigo coral
i think everyone who has bought a german car has had some sort of negative experience with it, even if it didn't prevent them from buying it in the future
fathom socket
Did I ever mention Falcon directly?
indigo coral
@civic girder
dense shard
You've implied him.
fathom socket
I never implied him.
dense shard
Then again you never mentioned me, instead choosing to attack Honda owners.
indigo coral
LOL.
dense shard
But whatever.
fathom socket
And if he feels upset by what I said, I'm sorry Falcon because I wasn't referring to you.
dense shard
I've apologized, I'm honestly not sure what else you want me to do.
civic girder
I don't have a German car, likely never will (unless it was a very specific model), nor does anyone in my family have one. But I have friends with German cars. And oh my god, I'm glad Japanese shitboxes are nowhere near as bad as that
indigo coral
honestly if the RX didn't have park bench bumpers it would look way more modern
its not a bad looking car, just has a case of 90s
civic girder
7 catalytic converters on a V6
like, who the fuck does that
civic girder
My friend's 3 series has one cat for each cylinder and then a main cat like a normal car
fathom socket
Sorry, you came across as one of those stupid people who live somewhere on the other side of the world and talks shit about us.
dense shard
...
indigo coral
honestly, lowered RX isn't bad
fathom socket
I know.
civic girder
oh and then clutches for that 3 series cost like $1k, not including a flywheel
indigo coral
yikes
fathom socket
I said that I thought you were one of those. Not saying you were.
civic girder
meanwhile, I can get a no expense spared rotary rebuild kit for the same price
(OEM apex seals, every gasket, all the o-rings and shit)
indigo coral
i kind of wonder how much it would cost to lower the car like that
dense shard
A few hundred to a few thousand.
indigo coral
and if it could be done in a manner that it doesn't compromise suspension geometry, etc
dense shard
Depends how well you want it done.
fathom socket
You came across as one of those stupid bullshitters who talks crap about my country. Will you please forgive me?
dense shard
sure
dense shard
No hard feelings
dense shard
I'm just here for good vibes. I may have pooped on em a little. My b.
civic girder
@indigo coral that's normal
fathom socket
In case you didn't know, I'm very patriotic to my country. And I get really mad when someone says something rude about it.
indigo coral
would lowering springs fuck my alignment/tire wear/driving experience etc?
fathom socket
Yes.
indigo coral
(not like my tires are in great condition anyways lul)
dense shard
Depends on the kit.
civic girder
you have to get a new alignment whenever you fuck with the suspension, afaik
fathom socket
You'd need a new alignment.
civic girder
hell, I had to get an alignment when I fixed the steering rack
indigo coral
alright nevermind then
i got an alignment a few months ago
lol
though when I eventually get new tires, I might redo rims as well
the 16s look derpy as all hell in teh giant wheel arches
civic girder
That's basically the only reason it cost so much to get the outer tie rods installed on the RX-7, they had to do an alignment
cause hell, I even brought in the tie rods for them, they didn't have to search for them or source any parts
well, I probably better hit the sheets soon. Planning on working on cars all day
indigo coral
honestly the 18s look way better
indigo coral
i wonder if I could get a cheap set... I see a lot of people with aftermarket rims on their 2nd gen rx 350 for some reason
civic girder
RX-7 needs diff fluid. I doubt I'll get around to the clutch shit and I'll hold off on getting the A/C recharged
Prius needs an oil change. Maintenance light came on today (part of the reason why I drove the RX-7 140+ miles today)
indigo coral
i dont think i'm too far behind on anything for my rx
civic girder
and I got lazy and didn't check the oil in the RX-7 earlier, so I'll probably have to top that off
fathom socket
@civic girder How hard was it finding a mechanic for your prius?
indigo coral
just some broken shit that will likely stay broken until i absolutely have to fix it
fathom socket
Cause a lot of mechanics here in the states refuse to work on them.
civic girder
@fathom socket wdym?
most of its life it was serviced at Toyota dealers and quick lube places.
I'm finally going to start taking care of things myself
fathom socket
Ah.
I meant if you didn't have a dealer around.
A lot of mechanics hate working on them.
civic girder
There's a Toyota dealer everywhere, lol. Though the nearest one is about a 15-20 minute drive
fathom socket
I've turned down requests to work on them before.
indigo coral
my exhaust is leaky somewhere but honestly.... I don't even care all that much right now. After tearing a bunch of stuff apart to replace vcg and stuff, i super don't want to disassemble a bunch of stuff again
civic girder
Honestly not overly surprised
beyond basic maintenance shit, Prius is gonna be a pain to work oon
especially with the cramped ass engine bay
indigo coral
exhaust rattles a bit, and kinda splutters when you give it gas when the engine is torquing/under load (i've said this in here before), and honestly Im not super inclined to fix it
- no emissions tests here 2. its hilarious every time and 3. its expensive and a pain
civic girder
I am gonna fix the traction battery pack when it goes fucky
it doesn't seem overly difficult
indigo coral
the hybrid battery?
fathom socket
The hybrid battery?
indigo coral
Lol
civic girder
yes
civic girder
(Toyota calls it the traction battery)
fathom socket
Chrisfix has a tutorial on how to do it.
civic girder
yea, except Chrisfix went above and beyond
you don't have to replace the whole unit
indigo coral
remember to lick the terminals each time, to make sure they're good.
civic girder
usually it's just a few cells that go bad
fathom socket
indigo coral
(lol, just kidding. obviously don't do that)
civic girder
so the cheapest way is to take a multimeter to all the cells and find the ones with bad voltage
and then yeet them
fathom socket
Yep
indigo coral
then they wouldn't be balanced anymore would they?
fathom socket
I guess.
indigo coral
cause some would be new and some would be worn out?
civic girder
you put the best cells in the middle
with the worst ones on the edges
that balances it, lol
indigo coral
fair enough I suppose
civic girder
the heat gets trapped in the center
indigo coral
does the BMS freak out about it?
indigo coral
battery management system
fathom socket
Make sure to clean the fan for the battery.
fathom socket
It gets dirty and doesn't cool well
indigo coral
otherwise you end up like a Leaf
civic girder
BMS doesn't care
indigo coral
and lose half your range in 3 years
civic girder
they're just battery cells
indigo coral
huh. must be a fairly basic bms programming then
civic girder
it's all series iirc
civic girder
yea
all you need is for all the cells to have 15-17 volts
anything less than 15v and the red triangle of doom comes on
indigo coral
my harbinger of doom in my car is if you shfit from park to reverse/drive and it hesitates then slams into gear, you're fucked
thats the primary sign the transmission is gonna die that day
indigo coral
(a second or two is normal, I'm saying like obvious delay)
like sometimes having to try multiple times to make it work, etc.
well that or opening your VCG and finding a ton of sludge. you're f*cked in that case too.
lucky for me the engine was nice and clear of sludge
civic girder
It was awkward today in the Prius. I was driving around chatting with a friend, went on a road I usually only traverse by myself. Threw the car in neutral to coast downhill (as I normally do). Then forgot to put it back in drive when I stopped at the stoplight at the bottom of the hill. I almost feared for my life when the car didn't move and I hit the gas
indigo coral
RIP
civic girder
then I realized, its in neutral still
was like "oh fuck, the engine blew up"
(especially cause the Prius never revs in neutral, just flat refuses to)
indigo coral
oh yeah I about had a heart attack the other night because I was on the highway and caned it to pass a truck, and it didn't hardly move and I was like OH sh*T but then I realised I was going up hill, slipping a bit, and not in powe mode
civic girder
lol
indigo coral
mine will happily rev all the way to redline in neutral
lol
not that I've tested the theory
civic girder
yea
if you slam your foot on the floor, it will rev
but only to like 3 quarters rpm
not even that much, actually
indigo coral
I've never actually floored it, at least conciously because it REALLLLLLY doesnt like that
indigo coral
noooo I got too deep into it from a stop once and it just started freely revving
civic girder
Now the RX-7, I floor all the time
indigo coral
until it came back down and it engaged fine
only did it once but that was enough to never try that again
fathom socket
It actually helps clean out the carbon.
indigo coral
i think EE debunked that
fathom socket
I rev my truck a lot.
civic girder
that's why people say you have to redline rotaries
cause carbon buildup hurts them especially
fathom socket
It's hard to resist revving my truck 😛
indigo coral
I also try not to rev my car because I think thast where it burns a bit of oil
civic girder
Diesels have an odd charm to them that makes you want to rev them for some reason
fathom socket
Yeah.
civic girder
especially turbo diesels
fathom socket
They sound soooo good.
indigo coral
tmrw I might try giving it the (slow) beans
civic girder
I often find myself revving our turbo diesel truck at work so I can hear the diesel noise and the spool
indigo coral
the benefit of having a v6 with some tiny shred of power is that passing power on the highway (70 -> 80) isn't as terrible as it could be
fathom socket
When the turbo spools down sound really good too.
civic girder
and as shitty as my buddy's TDi Jetta is, it sounds fuckin amazing
indigo coral
though thats partly beacuase at that point you're already in VVTi
fathom socket
The 12 valve Cummins sounds like it's rod knocking all the time.
civic girder
I hate tacking and clicking in my engines
modern EFI ticks and tacks
I hate it
this is why carb good
indigo coral
that's part of the reason a model 3 is attractive. If it's making any significant noise, it's broken. Lol.
civic girder
you'll know when your car is broke cause the engine won't normally tick, lmao
(in reference to the carb)
fathom socket
Skip to 1:32 https://youtu.be/nbR4jdAoW6E
civic girder
though I can't say injection is bad, as the Prius would get literal ass for mpg if it didn't have EFI
fathom socket
A straight piped diesel sounds soooo good.
indigo coral
Wtf kind of idle is that
civic girder
Why not share the link at the time stamp you want?
indigo coral
I hate driving my dad's truck on the highway. The drone is so obnoxious.
fathom socket
I forget how.
civic girder
oh, you'd love the RX-7 then @indigo coral
indigo coral
(97 F250 diesel, banks kit etc etc)
fathom socket
Loud cars are the best!
civic girder
that exhaust sounds like trash, imo, btw
indigo coral
Loud when you're stepping on it is fine. Drone on the highway drives me absolutely insane
indigo coral
If I ever have a car with a loud exhaust, it'll be one with valves.
fathom socket
Well, it's not mine. It's my dad's car. But it lives at my house.
civic girder
I'll take you for a cruise in the RX-7. Hear nothing but wind from the trashed door weather seals, and feel nothing but vibration
indigo coral
Or one that's quiet enough to not drone.
mines a bit noisy in highway, wind rush from A pillar and stuff.
civic girder
Cause rotaries do vibrate a fuck ton
indigo coral
Kind of surprised it has it, considering it's a luxury suv (of sorts)
and you can hear the engine once you rev it a bit
civic girder
putting your hand on the shifter at 70mph in 5th gear is like putting your hand on your phone while it's vibrating it's ass off
fathom socket
I have this hate for 1997-2001 Lexus es300's
indigo coral
why?
fathom socket
Because one hit and ran my dad's car.
civic girder
imo, beyond reliability, Lexus were pretty shit until the late 2000s
fathom socket
Less than a day after it got back from the body shop!
indigo coral
The ES was kinda meh until recently, the GS was weird, but the RX is decent.
fathom socket
He was fricken pissed.
civic girder
I would be too
fathom socket
I was with him when we rear ended a Jeep.
civic girder
like fuck, you don't just hit somebody and then run away. Even if it wasn't entirely your fault, at least own up to it
fathom socket
And then the same night he got the car back.
indigo coral
that's why I got a dashcam
indigo coral
Even tho they're illegal here, I got it anyways lol
civic girder
Yea. I need to get a dashcam for the Prius. And then idk how I'd do that in the RX-7 because it's electrical system is pretty shitty
indigo coral
I just plugged mine in via usb
civic girder
what's usb
indigo coral
lol
fathom socket
The repair bill after both incidents was $18,000
indigo coral
JEEZ
indigo coral
did your insurance help out or werre you SOL?
fathom socket
He paid $1000 in deductible.
indigo coral
I've got Alexa and the dash cam.plugged in via usb
civic girder
oh, that's not bad at all
fathom socket
And the rates went up.
civic girder
I can see them going up from him rear ending the Jeep, but from being hit and run? come on
fathom socket
According to them yes.
indigo coral
Ah.
fathom socket
It kinda makes sense.
civic girder
If somebody ran after hitting you, they were clearly at fault
indigo coral
Usaa tried to blame my dad for when we got in an accisent
civic girder
why else would you fuckin run
civic girder
the fuck
fathom socket
Because we hit one of those concrete poles in our 12 passenger van less than a year before.
civic girder
wtf
fathom socket
The god damn spot was for a big van too!
indigo coral
our Five Hundred quite possibly saved the lives of the kids in front of us though.
civic girder
I think USAA is pretty good, but god damn was that a Bruh Moment
fathom socket
But they put concrete poles on either sides.
indigo coral
Our car took the impact, guy in fromt of us had a tiny Mazda 3 with his two kids in the back
civic girder
yea, probably did
indigo coral
Could have quite possibly been a fatal if our car didn't fill the gap
civic girder
60mph into a stopped car is no joke
indigo coral
we were all fine, car was hit so hard it bent down the middle
civic girder
and why the fuck was he going 60
fathom socket
One time I was t-boned by a RAM dually.
indigo coral
Zone*
indigo coral
Idk. He was clearly an idiot
civic girder
35 zone. Steep enough that the Prius (with it's regen brakes) can go from 30 to 55 without riding the brakes or touching the gas
fathom socket
I was crushed.
indigo coral
Yeah our Five Hundred was completely totalled
Like no need for an adjuster, pics did the trick
The trunk lid was bent most of the way up to the roof
fathom socket
The gave me more than it was worth though!!!
indigo coral
They gave us 5900$ for an 06 Ford Five Hundred Limited with 170k miles on it
fathom socket
It was worth probably $1500-$2000
indigo coral
Which isn't too bad
civic girder
If the RX-7 ever gets totaled, I'll be big sad and they better give more than its worth so I can cover my losses and buy a new one
civic girder
I've got comprehensive on the RX-7.
civic girder
$5 difference is fine
fathom socket
I wish my truck hadn't been totaled.
civic girder
especially when the insurance on the 7 is less than $40 a month
indigo coral
shit the difference between liability and comprehensive is only 5$ for you?!!?
BLOODY HELL
fathom socket
But then I might not be in my Duramax.
civic girder
old car life, Falcon
indigo coral
The insurance on my RX is 2700$ every 6 months
fathom socket
I pay full coverage for my Duramax.
civic girder
JESUS CHRIST
indigo coral
for just liability
civic girder
$2700 for 6 months????
indigo coral
yep
civic girder
god damn
indigo coral
for a slow old safe granny-mobile
fathom socket
I pay $80 a month for full coverage.
civic girder
I have comprehensive on both my cars, $500 deductible, and it's like $800 per 6 months
the Prius is what really steals my money
modern cars are expensive to insure
iirc Prius is over $120 a month on its own
indigo coral
I'm penalized because it's got all wheel drive, which is dumb
civic girder
yea, that's a galaxy brain moment there
indigo coral
It's an "unsafe vehicle configuration"
civic girder
lmao what
fathom socket
What?
indigo coral
They said it should be FWD for lower insurance costs
Cause apparently awd encourages reckless behaviour
civic girder
what drugs is your insurance on
indigo coral
....somehow
fathom socket
That is completely and utterly downright stupid.
indigo coral
Dw they refused to accept my good student discount thing too
because im going to college for dual credit instead of the usual highschool
civic girder
lmao, sounds like you need to ditch them
fathom socket
I went to car college.
indigo coral
Yep
civic girder
my rates lower every year as I get older
though they might go up slightly in March because of the accident I had back in November
indigo coral
I honestly wonder, what car I could have gotten that would be LESS offensive to insurance
fathom socket
I want to go back to school when I save up enough.
indigo coral
220hp isn't crazy, it's a very safe car with ABS and 6 airbags, well built and unibody so less tippy
fathom socket
I want to get a PHD in theology
civic girder
I want to know why the RX-7 costs like $80 less to ensure with the exact same coverage. Like, I get that's old car vs new car, but the Prius has only 10 more hp and is FWD, AND has airbags, AND has ABS
so you'd think the RX-7 would only be like $20-30 less just because old car discount
indigo coral
I mean the rx7, you're a road pancake if you get in an accident
fathom socket
Does this RX7 have traction control?
civic girder
nope
civic girder
I know
indigo coral
so does the traction in the FWD rx300
civic girder
The Prius has engaged it numerous times before
fathom socket
I have to turn it off when I'm in mud.
civic girder
All you really need is ABS to be safe
fathom socket
Cause i have an automatic locker.
indigo coral
Antilock braking system @normal temple
civic girder
traction control just makes things fucky and doesn't help you
normal temple
I know lol
fathom socket
But traction control engages before the locker does.
normal temple
Full braking without ABS is epic, you guys should try it
civic girder
besides, people manage to spin out and crash with traction control, so I mean
civic girder
The one time I locked the brakes in the RX-7 it was:
downhill
in the rain
and because somebody panic braked because they were texting
civic girder
oh yes
normal temple
I hate it when people morse code with their brakes
civic girder
Even my buddy's 1995 Astro has ABS
indigo coral
Abs is essential imo
fathom socket
I keep stability control on in my van.
normal temple
My 1989 BMW has ABS
fathom socket
It helps redirect power to different wheels to keep it from tipping.
normal temple
Its pretty aggressive
indigo coral
I don't have stability control either!
No traction, stability, vehicle skid control, etc
indigo coral
the 2001+ RX had it
The 99 didn't
tho the awd 1st Gen never got traction control afaik
fathom socket
This is my van
It kinda needs stability control.
Notice the wheels poke out from the wells?
The person before me got aftermarket wheels with negative offset.
solemn atlas
Ohh American 💩
solemn atlas
Naw Scottish for the win with our irn bru
Right back to the thing I came her to post
fathom socket
K.
fathom socket
In a Ford Ranger?!
solemn atlas
fathom socket
A Ford Ranger can't hold a horse.
solemn atlas
Well it must be able to other wise Tesco will be near there
fathom socket
Or woman.
solemn atlas
Well if they drive 💩 it’s a woman if they drive good it’s a guy
#sexist
@solemn atlas has been banned for being sexist
civic girder
^
solemn atlas
It’s more of a joke in my family really
fathom socket
A lot of men drive like shit
solemn atlas
The girls in my family can’t drive they guys can so it’s sort of a joke
fathom socket
Stupid idiots who can't stay off their phone.
fathom socket
I hate them.
civic girder
Same
fathom socket
And I hate the person who tailgates you.
solemn atlas
Yeah me to it dose my nut in
civic girder
they clearly would rather kill themselves and the people around them than miss a text from their "best bud"
fathom socket
And they rev their engine trying to pass you.
solemn atlas
Have you seen the #drivelikegransinthecarads here in Scotland
civic girder
tailgaters are also awful. They'll rearend you the moment you need to slow down
fathom socket
I have a sticker on my truck that says "The closer you get, the slower I go."
civic girder
lmao
fathom socket
It helps reduce the amount that do it.
fathom socket
My brother has a sticker that says "Honk if you love Jesus, text and drive if you want to meet him."
solemn atlas
Iv seen that one
civic girder
We have some ads for texting and driving, but they all aren't that great and people don't care either
fathom socket
I gotta go to sleep.
civic girder
same
solemn atlas
Here you can lose your license if your caught with proof
civic girder
good
fathom socket
It's 2:18 AM where I am.
civic girder
same
solemn atlas
You gotta got to sleep I’m just getting up
civic girder
#timezone-problems
solemn atlas
Well technically Iv not slept as Iv flew from Toronto to heathrow to Glasgow tonight just Lea the airport waiting on the bags the now
serene jetty
@solemn atlas our road driving safety ads are much more graphic in Australia
Drink Driving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqvLcVBOhP4&list=PLiWYWribgzB3-yHigMUdE_yfZr4Tq0T6r&index=5&t=0s
from 1996
solemn atlas
Ours housed to be more graphic were now going for funny ones
serene jetty
today they're still as graphic
Fatigue Kills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4mvtNU32kQ&list=PLiWYWribgzB3-yHigMUdE_yfZr4Tq0T6r&index=5
1994
tight cypress
civic spoke
Trying to burn the front tires?
fair bronze
How is that thing still alive
sleek inlet
anyone have a defender here?
fathom socket
That sucks.
indigo coral
someone was in front of me today on the way to school and was driving 30 in a 60 zone 🙄🙄🙄
Visiting from Cali and it's raining, so I guess it makes sense
civic spoke
Were they running slicks or something?
dense shard
Fisker Ocean unveiled, $29,999 base w/credits, performance version 0-60 in 2.9s
Fisker at it again
indigo coral
if he can actually bring it to market, Tesla is fucked. But likely he's gonna fail again
dense shard
If I had to get an EV... I'd wait for the Mazda MC-30.
I'm sold on the range extender.
indigo coral
Eh, if I'm gonna get an EV I don't want to have to deal with both
carmine summit
hydrogen rotary range extender is cool
stoic ledge
I like modern Mazda's, but the MX-30 is not nice looking and quite expensive tbh
I don't understand why they didn't use like the CX-30, the the Chinese CX-4 as base for it
dense shard
Everything I've seen says the MX-30 is based on the CX-30.
The names confuse me.
The CX-4 is last gen stuff.
stoic ledge
I don't think the Fisker Ocean looks too shabby, better than the Model Y imho
indigo coral
it looks derpy as f*ck tbh
wheels look dumb, its curvy at the front but square at the back
etc
stoic ledge
What, the Ocean?
indigo coral
yes
stoic ledge
I think it looks cool from all angles
indigo coral
not as good as the model 3, better than the Y or X though
thing is
it'll never come to market for real
henrik fisker is a crook
stoic ledge
It kinda looks like a Range Rover Evoque/LR Discovery Sport imho
Meh personally I don't like the looks of the Model 3 :)
And idk, they did put in quite some R&D money in to it xD
indigo coral
yeah, they did with the Karma too
but he just spent all his money on jets and fancy shit
to "keep up appearances"
stoic ledge
Yeah, but they went broke on that car... Can't afford to do that again I'd assume xD
indigo coral
I really am skeptical of anything he does. They're likely to follow like Faraday Future did
stoic ledge
We shall say 🙃 People said the same about Tesla, and look where they are now
civic girder
@indigo coral It seems I may be joining the potentially fucked Toyota engine gang
civic girder
I changed the oil in the Prius today. Drained it out, put the drain plug back in. Went to change the filter, filter was stuck. Had to take the RX-7 back to the store to get a filter wrench. Came back, removed and changed filter. Added 3.8 quarts of 5W30 (as recommended). Started engine, let it run for a bit, checked oil. Was good. Cleaned up and put the old oil in a container to take to Advanced Auto. Went to Advanced and disposed of the oil. Started the car at Advanced, heard a weird "knocking" or "tapping" from the engine bay. Was concerned, but car felt fine; accelerated normally and engine sounded healthy. Decided to go up and down one exit on the highway, got up to speed fine, maintained it well. Got gas on the way home, 86 Octane regular, as always. Started it, had the same noise again. Got more concerned. Got home good, couple flooring it sessions to see what would happen; engine sounded good and healthy, no power loss and felt as fast as normal. Started it a couple times, noise persists, but then goes away. Haven't driven it since I got back; afaik the noise only comes on after you initially start the car and the engine starts for the first time, I don't think it persists when the engine re-engages or anything and it's definitely not there while accelerating.
indigo coral
oh boy
Similar to mine but a bit different
Mine happened, was gone for 6 months, came back for 1 night and is gone again
civic girder
I've never had this issue before, even after going to quick lube places
civic girder
I just checked the oil a few minutes ago though, and it's over the full mark by a bit. I think I'll drain a bit before I try and drive it again just to see. I measured out the oil, so idk how I could have overfilled it, and I didn't pre-fill the filter either
indigo coral
and a slight overfill shouldn't cause that
civic girder
I used Supertech (walmart brand) 5W-30 full synthetic. I use Supertech on the RX-7 without issues, so I figured why not
and it's a FRAM filter, used Rockauto to get the part number
indigo coral
huh, iirc i used Mobil synthetic 5w30 in my car
Oh God
Fram filters are terrible
Get literally anything else
civic girder
I have a FRAM filter on the RX-7 too, lol
indigo coral
They're like known to be shit
civic girder
that's what I heard on Rx7club too, but I was then told by the RX-7 discord peeps that as long as it's the correct type of filter it will be fine "a filter is a filter"
indigo coral
I use stp filters, since that's what AutoZone has
civic girder
I got the correct type of filter, so the only things that could have caused it are:
the filter is actual complete dogshit, despite being the correct type
or
it's caused by too much oil
even if Fram filters aren't great, it shouldn't cause this, at least I wouldn't think so
indigo coral
I dunno. I can't give any incredible wisdom cause idk wtf is wrong with mine either haha.
civic girder
In a weird way, the noise reminds me of the "oil flooding" the RX-7 has had in the past. It's not a metal tapping noise, its more of like a soft noise that's different
true, lol
I might drain some, either to exact or just below the full line. See if it repeats. If it does, I guess I'll redo the whole process with a non-Fram filter (probably order one off Rockauto and drive the RX-7 until it arrives in the mail)
and then if it still happens on a new filter, gonna have to cough up cash and take it somewhere
the noise almost sounds like it's burning oil. Cause the RX-7, when it has it's oil flooding thing, sounds like it's ""coughing"" and this sounds relatively similar (but definitely not the same)
indigo coral
Strange. Mine sounded fairly metallic.
civic girder
Yea, mines def not metallic
indigo coral
I've no clue though, if the engine was f*cked it wouldn't do a 150 mile trip no issue at all
civic girder
Yea, the RX-7s thing was either loose spark plugs or too rich a fuel mixture (or both)
Prius was fine until yesterday. I drove 70 miles, maintenance light came on, had no choice but to drive 70 miles back. Then I took the RX-7 for the rest of the day because the light had come on. Did the change today, even checked the oil before I drained it and it wasn't low or anything
in a way, the noise almost sounds like a misfire
indigo coral
Strange. My oil wasn't low or overfilled either.
civic girder
yea.
I know my car is at nearly 100k miles, and I wouldn't be surprised if the spark plugs went bad. I can't check them though because I don't have a 14mm spark plug socket
indigo coral
could be. Mine has 133k and we replaced it for the 2nd time, we think. They were worn but not like... destroyed.
tbh it feels like it runs better, but thats just placebo
they werent dangerously bad or anything, so it couldn't be 'better'
civic girder
Yea, I'm not certain if the plugs have ever been changed on this car
It was running 100% normal yesterday too, all 150+ miles I drove it.
And strangely, when the noise isn't occurring, it almost sounds healthier now than it did even two days ago (maybe placebo)
indigo coral
see if it goes away tomrrow
if its gone tomorrow, we can conclude toyota cars have intermittent possession.
civic girder
Yea. What I'm probably gonna do is check the oil in a couple hours, once the engine is completely cold. See where the level sits. If its still high, I'll drain some. And then worst case scenario I let it sit for at least 12 hours and see what happens
well, real worst case is I redo the entire oil change
indigo coral
I would say disconnect battery for a while too but idk how that works on priuses
To reset ecu/adaptations
civic girder
It's the same, battery is just in the back
Hybrids have two batteries, traction battery/hybrid battery, and regular ass car battery
indigo coral
Mhm
civic girder
I guess I could try disconnecting it, but idk if that would really help
indigo coral
If you disconnect the 12v battery does it reset stuff?
indigo coral
I'd try disconnecting it to reset the car adaptations
Ecu fuckery can cause problems
civic girder
I think the 12v is for everything but the engine
since the traction battery is much higher voltage, it would be dumb to run the whole system off of it
indigo coral
Yeah
civic girder
we have yet to see if that was the culprit
shadow osprey
Whether or not it was, I've heard multiple stories of the insides of those literally eating themselves lol
and subsequently being sent through the engine
civic girder
As I mentioned before, RX-7 has a Fram filter too
hell, it even had a Fram filter before I changed it
shadow osprey
Yeah, just adding to the already long list of problems rotary cars have 😂
civic girder
Prius had some unknown, unbranded filter when I took it off
eh, the RX-7 has mainly only had fuel system problems and old ass brakes problems
only other problems were old vac system and old ignition things
Just to review my plan:
Let the engine cool down, check oil. If it is still above full, probably found my problem.
If it's below full when cold, then we probably do as Falcon suggested and unplug the 12v battery for a while.
Noise still persists, we redo the oil change and use a different filter.
And as I've said a couple times, def not a metallic noise indicating rod knock or valves/lifters or anything else. Sounds almost like a misfire, very soft tone sound; very possibly might be spark plugs, but can't confirm till I get the right socket and take a look at them as well as until I've tried everything else related to the oil change. Car was 100% fine before I did the change, and I didn't do anything else. If it is the spark plugs.....they found the most coincidental time to foul up
shadow osprey
"no power loss and felt as fast slow as normal."
@civic girder can you hear the ticking when the hood is closed and/or when you're sitting in the car?
civic girder
yes. And as I stated, only seems to occur the first time the engine starts after pressing the power button. Noise does not seem to persist when the engine turns on and off during normal driving
shadow osprey
yes to both?
shadow osprey
His prius is telling him he made the wrong choice
normal temple
is it actually knocking
shadow osprey
yes to both?
normal temple
Hue
shadow osprey
I love when people answer my questions 😂
civic girder
there was only one question?
shadow osprey
Can you hear it with the hood closed and/or inside the car
civic girder
yes
shadow osprey
to both
civic girder
yes
shadow osprey
ok
civic girder
I first noticed it while inside with hood closed
@normal temple might've mistyped there. Def just reg gas. Think I actually mean 87 octane
normal temple
LUL
I think the problem is independent of your oil change, and more likely due to quality of gas
But idk
civic girder
Are you sure? I drove 150+ miles on the same tank of gas yesterday
civic girder
Yea. I took the same trip in both cars
shadow osprey
scroll up a bit, it's not far
civic girder
but the Prius drove slightly farther than the RX-7 as I made a small detour on the return trip
indigo coral
When my thing happened I couldn't hear it inside the car but felt it
As soon as I opened the door I heard it
civic girder
eh, the Prius has been louder since I got a new hood
indigo coral
Does it have the sound dampening material inside?
civic girder
yes, but I think the original was steel and new one is thinner alum
indigo coral
Ah
shadow osprey
weight savings yo
civic girder
yea, I can't say for sure if that is a correct statement tho
just know there's slightly more engine noise in the cabin than before
normal temple
I mean as long as it isn't a deep ass knock, you good /s
civic girder
Yea. It's either my ancient plugs or too much oil, as of now those are my main theories
normal temple
Extra oil shouldn't really make any noise
If anything, it should quiet it down lol
Yeah plugs causing a cold start misfire happened on my car too, didn't misfire when hot which was a big meme
civic girder
except I can repeat this
flint sable
So my uncle had a thing for limited mustangs (Saleen, yellow one, Cobra R white one, and that blue one is a Mach 1)
civic girder
Maybe I'll get a video of it if it's still doing it after I check the oil when the engine is cold and potentially drain some oil
Also quick question: if I were to remove the oil filter, would that drain a lot of oil, or just a small amount? Wondering if I could swap filters without draining the oilpan
normal temple
Is it facing down or up
shadow osprey
Cobra R holy fuck yes please
normal temple
I'm sure at least 0.5-1 quart would come out and keep coming out lol
shadow osprey
Whatever is in the filter, and that's pretty much it @civic girder
civic girder
Ok, that's what I thought
shadow osprey
assuming the filter is above the pan by more than an inch
civic girder
I believe it is quite a bit above the pan
Thinking that if too much oil is not the problem, that it is the filter
and it would be a pain to redo the entire oil change
when i could just swap filters and add some of my leftover
shadow osprey
Well if it ate the filter then uh you're fucked bud
civic girder
true
civic girder
if I do have to get a different filter for the Prius, then I will avoid FRAM for the Prius
civic girder
thing about the RX-7 is tho, it's so damn old I'd probably have to order a filter online if I don't want Fram
@normal temple no idea. Dealership is like 25 minutes away tho
civic girder
lmao
normal temple
I drove 3 hrs to get a part once cause my local dealer didn't have said part
civic girder
We'll see though. Still might just be too much oil.
normal temple
All to get the car back on the road in the same day
civic girder
lol
I've pulled that stunt before too
The hub for Autozone is like 35 minutes away, but they stock OE style fuel pumps for the RX-7
civic girder
depends on how awful that drive is and how bad the fuel costs were
even then it'd still be 50/50
civic girder
again, still depends
if you get 20mpg, that's pretty shitty for 3 hours
but if you get like 30+, that isn't as bad
civic girder
that's as good as the RX-7 gets in a straight line at 70mph
and then remember that 70mph is well over 3.5k rpm
and 75mph is when the tach is locked at 4k
normal temple
Yeah uh, this is 75 mph in a 2 ton SUV
indigo coral
my filter is right below the exhaust manifold
and there aren't any filter wrenches for it
so we had to 3d print one
a custom one
indigo coral
why arent you changing the oil while its cold? 
indigo coral
I run mine to put it up on ramps then just let it cool for a couple hours
so its stone cold when I change it
civic girder
The prius filter is placed pretty poorly imo
not a lot of room to grab it with your hand
Not even really any room for a wrench either
I had to improperly use the proper tool to make it loosen, and then I dropped it because the position is trash
normal temple
Mmmm, the X5 requires a 36mm socket for the oil filter
civic girder
normal temple
Easy oil changes
civic girder
Could always be the RX-7 and run on one rotor
indigo coral
wow
civic girder
cause fuk I think that's what it was doing
was only firing on one rotor cause the carb was so rich that plugs were f u c k e d
especially cause those were the plugs the car had when I bought it
and it's funny how the exhaust didn't shake at all in that clip
cause the engine was shaking around like a small child throwing a tantrum
Ok, I'm gonna have some food and then go see if the Prius is done throwing a tantrum
shadow osprey
lmao werk them motor mounts
indigo coral
too bad toyotas dont last forever :pepecryexceptIdon'thavenitro:
indigo coral
lol
dense shard
I just need mine to last a million.
civic girder
It seems more and more like a misfire
I checked the oil cold, was just ever so slightly over the full mark
went for a drive, was doing it at low throttle, would kinda lose power for a split second when it did it
high throttle was smooth with no issues
checked oil as soon as I got back, was exactly at the full mark
then took a video
I honestly think it might be a misfire at this stage. Oil is looking good now. Def possible that one of the spark plugs (or maybe coil packs) decided to act up coincidentally
civic girder
I figured
I guess I didn't really consider it could be a misfire at first because I'm not used to piston engines misfiring
cause piston engines actually have torque and bottom end power
whereas the RX-7, you'll hear it misfire, but you won't feel it because there's no vibration and no bottom end power
shadow osprey
Are you talking about the belt noise or the weird clunking in the bakground
civic girder
there is no belt noise on the Prius?
shadow osprey
I mean the engine needs a belt... does it not?
shadow osprey
It sounds like something is turning off and on
civic girder
That's kinda how misfires work
you don't get a spark somewhere and so it kinda hiccups as the plug fires once then doesn't
shadow osprey
No misfires are regular
civic girder
they can be
shadow osprey
are all your plugs and coil packs in all the way
civic girder
they should be. I took off one of the coil packs to see if I could get one of the spark plugs out earlier, realized I didn't have the right socket, and then put it back on. I will check it before I start the car again, but I will wait until morning. The spark plug did not budge. Def possible that the coil pack is not fully seated.
shadow osprey
Yeah but check all of them lol
civic girder
I can check the other 3 packs I guess. It's a pain tho, cause you have to unbolt and move some shit out of the way to access all but the farthest left
and the only one I've ever touched has been that farthest left one
shadow osprey
I mean it's up to you
If you're gonna replace the plugs you'll have to do it anyways
cheap insurance too
civic girder
I know, just don't really want to check them if I can't get the plugs at the same time
Going to see if I can nab a 9/16 plug socket tomorrow, as that appears to be the size I need
civic girder
will do
ok waht. I just watched a video on replacing 2nd gen Prius plugs, guy used a 5/8 plug socket. Well I guess I just didn't try hard enough to get those suckers out. Will def check them in the morning first thing
this is the video I watched. Seems like 9/16 are for 3rd gen Prius
god, having two cars is nice. Will be able to yeet those plugs and take them to the auto parts store to compare with new ones. And then because its a newer car, I hope they might have them in stock. RX-7 plugs they don't have in stock at the store because they are so damn special
fathom socket
I bought my spark plugs from Amazon
I got the NGK Laser Iridium plugs
Basically the most expensive plugs possible.
They we're $12 a plug.
But I got a set of 8 from amazon for $60
I'm frickin glad my van didn't have a coil on plug setup.
Instead it has one coil per cylinder, but the coils sit on top of the valve cover with wires running to the plugs.
indigo coral
mine does, but it was easy to get off
Well
The ones in the back were a pain in the ass
Because transverse v6
fathom socket
The coil on plug style is less reliable.
indigo coral
meh. Its not that bad
now it'll be easy to redo in the future because we took some stuff out
indigo coral
so there's not 3 brackets literally pressing the bolts against the firewall, holding the intake on
we changed it hehe
indigo coral
Took the biggest pain in the ass one off
It was gone in the 2001+ cars with the same intake/engine design
so it was pointless
And unnecessary
fathom socket
And the alternator is in on the top of the engine.
indigo coral
Apparently someone didn't know what transverse engines are
fathom socket
That looks like a pain.
dense shard
Today was super nice outside. Finally got my car washed.
indigo coral
Beyond just being transverse, it sits at an angle in the engine bay
So it's hard to reach the back stuff
dense shard
Meaning I'm ready to get some crossbars installed... and then cars and coffee on saturday.
normal temple
This is the VR6, its transverse as you can see @indigo coral
fathom socket
I strongly dislike transversly mounted engines.
dense shard
VR6s were weird.
fathom socket
It just makes it a pain to fix anything.
dense shard
Not quite a V, not quite I.
dense shard
VW's solution a question no one asked. it's fun.
normal temple
Its a very good engine
dense shard
One head I understand?
normal temple
Though they have timing chain issues
Especially on the 12v ones
Mine is a 24v which has a more durable chain aswell
civic girder
The Prius has coils on each plug afaik. You undo a 10mm bolt and take the coil pack off, then take a plug socket and an extension to reach down and get the plug
fathom socket
Y'all should try working on a rwd vehicle. It's super easy!
civic girder
Can confirm
dense shard
I've tried it. Honestly as long as it isn't a V, it's nothing too tragic.
civic girder
The RX-7 engine bay is so empty and easy to work on