cars

[civic girder]

Especially if it's an older one

[fathom socket]

anyone here a Z car fan?

[normal temple]

My school has 5 straight piped 350z's

So no

No I'm not

[dense shard]

The older ones sure.

I'd love a 280z.

[civic girder]

An old 280z or 240z, sure

anything newer than that, hahaha no

[dense shard]

Second Gen 300z, nice.

[fathom socket]

worst mistress ever

shes a money pit wh0re

[dense shard]

Seriously... you got dinged over that?

[fathom socket]

lol. LTT has a bad word filter

lol

[dense shard]

I question the world filter a lot.

ah well.

[fathom socket]

its a love hate

[dense shard]

I wouldn't touch a Z32 if you paid me.

[fathom socket]

they arent bad

just a puzzle box every time

[dense shard]

I don't have the patience.

[fathom socket]

which is why she sits for so long

[dense shard]

All of the early 90s Japanese sports cars are too clever by half.

That's probably why the Supra ended up being so popular. It was easy power.

300zx TT, 3000GT VR-4, and RX-7 were all quite complex.

With the 3000GT being hellishly complex.

Then again I quite like the aesthetic of the 300ZX. Nothing crazy.

[fathom socket]

i do love the car

was lucky enough to take her around the nissan test track in AZ

[dense shard]

cool

[fathom socket]

nothing like turning INTO the top bank wall @ 110MPH

i wasnt going fast enough to hold it to the turn

[dense shard]

oof

[civic girder]

Yea, you've got the FD and the FB

One makes you use quantum computing to figure out how it works, the other is like eating cake

Basically the only thing you can't access from the engine bay is the oil drain plug (in the FB)

FB vacuum diagram is also stupid easy to understand

then you've got the FD's millennium puzzle of a vacuum system

[fathom socket]

I refer to all 90s Jap Sports Cars as the peak of Vacuum Technology monitored by the infancy of Computer Technology

just to make the car idle and accelerate properly cost over $1000 in new OEM parts

[civic girder]

I'm somewhat confident that my FB is by far in the top 3 easiest cars I'll ever work on

[fathom socket]

i fully built the entire engine from valve covers up with all new parts. best thing I could do to make it work right

still gets 25MPG

i mean not when i drive it....but it can

[civic girder]

better than what I get

still better than what my car can get

I think modern EPA ratings puts the FB RX-7 at like 21 highway? 17 combined?

[fathom socket]

my lexus i just got can get 20mpg! im amazed

poor RX7

apex seals lol

[civic girder]

71k original miles, engine hasn't left the car since it was built

[fathom socket]

mine is a 1990 @ 126K

[civic girder]

apex seals are basically the best thing on the whole car, lmaoo

[fathom socket]

its sat 80% of the last 20 years! 😄

wait....:(

[civic girder]

damn, I think my car just turned 37 too

[fathom socket]

right

classic plate that bitch

[civic girder]

maybe 38, can't remember exactly

there's no classic plates in Ohio

there's just regular and historical. and to get historical plates, you have to be registered in a club

[fathom socket]

thats the test track shot! best car show ever

[civic girder]

is that you?

[fathom socket]

yurp

[civic girder]

nice

I don't have any rolling shots of my car

just stills and shoddy phone footage of stationary revs

[fathom socket]

some pro photography guy was there. we didnt know

was awesome to find out weeks later

[civic girder]

yea, thats sick

[fathom socket]

ive been doing the car show scene with it in the past when it actually ran

makes it much more fun

[indigo coral]

car did pretty well today

was sketchy though, hydroplaned a bit a couple times

was absolutely pouring rain

[civic girder]

oh yea

The RX-7 is sketchy as hell in the rain

I'm glad I ran that errand cause it added like 80lbs right over the rear axle

made the car handle quite a bit better in the wet

[indigo coral]

yeah I ended up doing about 5 under most of the way

just to avoid getting in trouble

was absolutely dumping lol

and dark so yeah

not a fun drive home

going up was fine though

since it wasn't raining

[normal temple]

Its dumping down here

E p i c

[civic spoke]

little. BIG.

[stoic ledge]

OOF

[fair bronze]

OOF

[fathom socket]

That is pretty big.

[unreal terrace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4W-P5aCWJs

[warm sparrow]

I think that looks like average USA truck.

[fair bronze]

Except with 6 wheels instead of 4

[normal temple]

6 wheels = More better

[fathom socket]

Is it normal to have the rpm on 1000 or 980rpm during idle

[indigo coral]

yes

when mine's cold it sits at like 1700rpm idle. then as it warms up it slows down to under 1k

[rotund matrix]

normal to be upwards of 1k when cold and warming up idling, after the car has settled should be <1k

[indigo coral]

^

[fathom socket]

Alright cool 👍

[normal temple]

When my car used to idle at 2000 rpm hot

That was epic

[stoic ledge]

Lol idle at 2k hot wtf

When cold over 1k rpm (I'd say 1400 but not sure), hot 700-ish xD

[indigo coral]

mines about 1500-1700 cold, and ~500-600 hot

[fathom socket]

My truck idles at 1200 rpm when cold (Because of an automatic high idles feature when it's cold outside)

And idles a 600 rpm when warm.

[dense shard]

~1500-1000 when cold.

Though I'm happy to say my car warms up pretty fast.

Fancy stuff does work.

[normal temple]

@stoic ledge high rpm idle means fast

[indigo coral]

^

yes

my car is supercar.

[normal temple]

E p i c

[fathom socket]

What's the top speed of your cars?

[indigo coral]

.....112..... runs away and hides

[fathom socket]

I took my truck to 116 before I saw a cop

[indigo coral]

yeah mines slow

😄

[normal temple]

Mine's slower

[indigo coral]

yes

fastest I've driven is about 85 becuase I wasn't paying attention to my speed

[fathom socket]

My van went to 106

[indigo coral]

and was going downhill in a 70 zone

[civic spoke]

I wonder what the Valkyrie will idle at when cold.

[normal temple]

Infinite

[dense shard]

My car apparently maxes out at 112 as well. Pretty sure it could top 140 without a limiter.

[normal temple]

Hmmmm

[stoic ledge]

Paper top speed of max speed I've driven in it? 👀

[normal temple]

I've gone up to 125 and apparently I have a 130 limiter

[indigo coral]

how do y'all go that fast w/o getting pulled over

I see endless cops when I'm driving

probably saw 30 driving around yesterday, deadass

[dense shard]

I once went over the speed limit. I turned myself in.

[stoic ledge]

On paper it's a terrible 96mph, but I've done 105mph in it 🙃

[dense shard]

Okay joking aside. I try to avoid speeding.

It kills fuel economy on the interstate.

[indigo coral]

I don't speed, really. Sometimes speed limit + tax but thats not reckless or stupid

just trying to maybe kind of keep up with traffic

[stoic ledge]

I only speed on the highway

[indigo coral]

usually I end up in the slower lanes because I don't feel like doing 15 over

[fathom socket]

I cruise at normally 3-5 MPH over.

[indigo coral]

and I still get flipped off while doing 5-10 over on the ghihway'

[fathom socket]

Yeah.

[stoic ledge]

slower lanes

Well my daily commute only has 2 lanes >:)

[fathom socket]

I installed tow mirrors with a convex portion.

[stoic ledge]

Also: > keep your lane is rubbish

[indigo coral]

?

[normal temple]

@indigo coral everyone goes like 75 where you are though lol

[indigo coral]

yes

they do

and I try not to

[fathom socket]

Because I was tired of accidentally cutting people off and getting flipped off.

[normal temple]

LOL

[indigo coral]

cops fucking tail me all the time

its annoying as hell

I dont know what I do thats so suspicious

[normal temple]

1999 RX300 = Racecar

[fathom socket]

I've only ever got pulled over once.

[normal temple]

Cops scared

[stoic ledge]

Doesn't everybody in the US stay in the same lane all the time?

[indigo coral]

no

lol

[fathom socket]

Cause my center taillight was out.

[normal temple]

Sometimes they hog the left lane

Going 5 under

[fathom socket]

Oh my god it drives me crazy.

[normal temple]

And I wanna die

[indigo coral]

no but like.. they'll turn off, then flip around and follow ne for like 20 minutes

all the time

like turn onto a side road to get behind me

all. the. time.

[normal temple]

Just cruise control at 5 mph over ez

[indigo coral]

when I'm literally not even speeding

[normal temple]

That's what I do

[fathom socket]

And then there's the tailgater.

[normal temple]

Never had a problem

[indigo coral]

i was doing 5 under one time and he flipped around in a big hurry, radar-ed me and put in my plates....

while my friends talk about doing 15 over all the time and getting away with it

like wtf

idk what I do thats so suspicious

[dense shard]

Driving not fast.

[indigo coral]

but hey, guess I'm guilty

[dense shard]

They're probably trying to ping you on warrants or drunk driving.

[indigo coral]

I've never drank alcohol in my life.

[dense shard]

Acting innocent means you are guilty.

[indigo coral]

and never plan to

[dense shard]

oh I know.

Put a 2A sticker on your car.

[indigo coral]

hell, I've had them follow me down my lane

[dense shard]

They'll know you are a true patriot and leave you alone or some shit.

[fathom socket]

They sometimes pull someone over for following the traffic laws to well. Because it sometimes makes you look suspicious.

[indigo coral]

and only peel off when I turn in my actual house

like often

[dense shard]

Cops can fuck off for that shit.

[indigo coral]

because I drive the speed limit i guess

i dunno

[dense shard]

Not breaking the law is zero reason to get pulled over.

That's beyond stupid.

[indigo coral]

I've not been pulled over, they just follow me all the time

[dense shard]

I've been pulled over 3 times. Once for a good reason. Never got a ticket happily.

Two of those three... my car was parked.

[indigo coral]

wtf

why

[dense shard]

Apparently my high beams were one once, and a cop really really really wanted to give me shit about it.

[fathom socket]

I've never gotten a ticket.

[indigo coral]

Oh yeah I've been asked for ID to buy a soda at 7eleven

[stoic ledge]

How can you be pulled over while parked 👀

[indigo coral]

the guy tried to call the police because i was "ditching school"

[dense shard]

This was in the Ford Contour with the magical misty headlights.

So weak they couldn't light their own way.

Second time my friend got car sick and I pulled over to let him not puke in my car.

Cop apparently took offense at that.

[normal temple]

I get weird looks when I get parts during "school hours" lol

[indigo coral]

yeah the cashier guy was on the phone with the non-emergency line

until I showed him my COLLEGE id to prove that I wasn't ditching

guess I just look young because I routinely get kicked out of the ymca hot tub (have to be 15)

[normal temple]

LUL

Feelsbadman

[stoic ledge]

Wait wot

[indigo coral]

yuuup

[stoic ledge]

1. what's YMCA? Besides the song xD

[indigo coral]

gym/pool/activity place

[stoic ledge]

Aaaaaaaah now it makes sense

https://youtu.be/CS9OO0S5w2k

I thought you meant this with YMCA lol

[indigo coral]

lol

[fair bronze]

Young Men's Christian Association

[normal temple]

y i k e s

[indigo coral]

idk it's a gym

there's a few here

[normal temple]

The move is

Jump into bathtub

And pretend its a pool

[stoic ledge]

Or use the sink of you don't have a bathtub 🙃

[drifting mantle]

Sweet. Just filled up and calculated my MPG.
Getting 23mpg, combined when new was 24.
There was snow last week though, and I was staying in low gear so I could have more of a RPM floor so I don't have to shift down.
So I could probably get 24/25 mpg.

[stoic ledge]

What car

[fathom socket]

Trunk space in the Hyundai Genesis is a amazing

I Expecting to be smaller

[stoic ledge]

Inb4 the hinges crushed all groceries

[indigo coral]

Oof

Too bad they didnt continue that in the G70

it's trunk is miniscule

[fathom socket]

Indeed it is crushed

[stoic ledge]

Classic

[civic girder]

Ah, Kroger

[stoic ledge]

Do they still offer bags? 👀

How dare you!

[fathom socket]

not mine

yet xD

[indigo coral]

bags are illegal here now @stoic ledge

in my county

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I see, it's a tumblr pic xD

Lol are they falcon

Nice

[fathom socket]

she's old, kind of ugly, but she runs good, as is easy/cheap to fix up

[indigo coral]

Nice

[stoic ledge]

Here they are also illegal*

* illegal unless you pay for it xD

[indigo coral]

Mine's old, kind of ugly, and runs good but isn't cheap or easy to fix 😂

here theyre downright illegal

can get paper for 8 cents

[fathom socket]

and she's under 300k km

[indigo coral]

but plastic = illegal

nice!

[stoic ledge]

500k km when 👀

[indigo coral]

who, mr or Damahr? xD

[stoic ledge]

Both

[indigo coral]

well I put 150 miles on the car yesterday so../.

[stoic ledge]

(that's about 300k miles)

Oof

[fathom socket]

im under 160k miles @stoic ledge

[indigo coral]

I'm at 133400 now

(214,686 km)

[fathom socket]

When i bought the car it was at 138k

[stoic ledge]

I'm at 130900km

[fathom socket]

not bad for being almost 20 years old

[indigo coral]

mines old enough to drink now

(21)

[stoic ledge]

So am I 🙃

😂

[indigo coral]

my car, not me.

lol

[stoic ledge]

I know xD

[fathom socket]

you know, the 80s,90s & early 2000's had some good frikkin cars man

[indigo coral]

I'm hoping to drive my car until I can afford to upgrade to a G70 or something.

(or a Model 3)

[fathom socket]

Any Cleetus McFarland fans around here?

[stoic ledge]

Who?

[fathom socket]

I want to keep my Mustang as toy, and my daily driver, I want to be a Cybertruck

He's a drag racer/YouTuber.

not for the lulz, but I LOVE the thing.

[indigo coral]

I want something a bit more sporty as my next car

but practical enough to be my 'only car'

my current car is.... lets say... the antithesis of sport

[stoic ledge]

Get yourself a Corsa falcon

[indigo coral]

nope

not a chance

I'm looking for 300+hp

[fathom socket]

Get a 3rd Gen Camaro and put a 632 big block from BluePrint engines in it.

[indigo coral]

(3.3T in G70/Stinger )

[fathom socket]

Along with damn large blower on top.

[stoic ledge]

We shall see what's not taxed to death here in a couple of years

So probably not something special

[indigo coral]

thought you already put in an order for an insignia?

[stoic ledge]

I could if I want, and if I can afford it I probably will

[indigo coral]

or you could get a G70 2.0t

[stoic ledge]

I'll need to import one then xD

[indigo coral]

oh sh*t

you don't get it?

[stoic ledge]

Ofc not xD

[indigo coral]

why tf not

its not even that gas hungry

& its teeny

[stoic ledge]

A brand like Genesis has a 0.0% chance of surviving here xD

The segment is almost dead

[indigo coral]

why? if it was the same price as other stuff why wouldn't it survive?

small cars

are not dead

over there at least

[stoic ledge]

Here it is

[indigo coral]

wym you lot are crazy about tiny cars

[stoic ledge]

Because it's not "tiny" for our standards

[indigo coral]

the g90 is quite big, but the g70 is small

[stoic ledge]

It's BMW 3/Alfa Giulia/Jag XE/Audi A4/Volvo A60 sized

[indigo coral]

yeah exactly

[stoic ledge]

Those are already quite upscale/expensive cars

[indigo coral]

ok but the genesis is cheaper

[stoic ledge]

Is is cheaper than a Kia Stinger?

[indigo coral]

yes

and smaller

[stoic ledge]

What's the difference in price?

[indigo coral]

5k iirc

lemme check

[stoic ledge]

(compared to a 2.0T Stinger)

[indigo coral]

o

one min

[stoic ledge]

Ok (:

[indigo coral]

ive enver configured the 2.0

cause I'd never buy it

xD

[stoic ledge]

xD

Well you know the 3.3 TT Stinger is €100k here, so xD

[indigo coral]

base or prestige?

or sport

[stoic ledge]

Just compared base to base

[indigo coral]

base/mid/high tier for G70

ok

ok weird

the Stinger is 3k cheaper for the rock bottom 2.0t

[stoic ledge]

Lol nice

Well the Stinger 2.0T starts ar €69k here

xD

So if the G70 is more expensive

[indigo coral]

but its 3k cheaper for the G70 for the top spec models

3.3t, highest interior trim, etc

[stoic ledge]

🤔

[indigo coral]

w e i r d

[stoic ledge]

I mean, even if it would start at €60k

A 330i with similar horsepower starts at €53k

So people would just get the BMW

Or, even worse, the Model 3 xD

[indigo coral]

honestly, the G70 looks nicer on the inside

and feels nicer

[stoic ledge]

Than the 3er or Model 3?

[indigo coral]

than Stinger

[stoic ledge]

Aah

[indigo coral]

the G70 has a super nice interior

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I've seen the reviews, looks nice

[indigo coral]

the genesis configurator is real nice

😄

I want one real bad

[stoic ledge]

There have been rumors they are going to bring Genesis to here

But x doubt

[indigo coral]

they had a really good year here

in 2018 they sold 600 cars, in 2019 they sold like 16k or something

[stoic ledge]

Lol xD

[indigo coral]

12k

for the g70

[stoic ledge]

If they made an EV version, it would sell amazing over here

[indigo coral]

which is good because more sales = more used ones for me in a couple years

yikes, C&D is trashing the G70 because it didn't get fixed immediately, when it was brand new model, after hitting a deer

[stoic ledge]

12k is rougly the amount of Tesla's delivered here last month lol

C&D?

[indigo coral]

car and driver

[stoic ledge]

Ah

That's unfair tho

[indigo coral]

yeah

[stoic ledge]

Infiniti sold 16 cars here last year lol

[indigo coral]

infiniti is garbage

some of them look decent but are terrible cars

[stoic ledge]

Still, quite funny

[indigo coral]

the Taurus sold 26 cars here in 2018 or something like that

the last year it was commerically availble

[stoic ledge]

Lol, probably all 2017 cars they had left?

[indigo coral]

probably

its a shame it got cancelled

its a good car, the back seat is a bit cramped but its surprisingly decent handling and stuff for being a big sedan

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I always like the Taurus

[indigo coral]

and in my biased opinion, it looks quite nice

[stoic ledge]

My options are based on looks only

Since it's never sold here

xD

[indigo coral]

idk about the SE, SEL, Limited ones

but the SHO w/ Performance Pack is actually pretty fun to drive

[civic girder]

Infiniti is trash because they are Nissans with more things that can break

[stoic ledge]

Yes xD

[indigo coral]

honestly I think I'd get a G70 over a Model 3

since the 3 isn't depreciating

and I'd want the fast one

which is f*cking expensive

[civic girder]

the 3 is also not that great of a car

especially the interior

[indigo coral]

i like the interior

[stoic ledge]

Meh I like to have some buttons xD

[indigo coral]

why does everyone want digital dials on the speedo? am watching dougs review of the G70 and hes shitting on the real gauges

I see no issue with that?

its better than the new BMW ones and stuff

[dense shard]

The MazdaSpeed isn't worth that much now I imagine.

It's a 2 generation old car now.

[stoic ledge]

I also prefer real dials tbh

[dense shard]

Also I think digital is the new black.

[stoic ledge]

99% of the time screen dials just look cheap af

And then people pay extra

😂

[indigo coral]

i think it looks stupid

i have no issue with real gauges in a car

[stoic ledge]

Same

Hyundai/Genesis screen looks quite nice tho

https://blog.consumerguide.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2019/06/cameras-1024x287.png

With this feature

[civic girder]

digital dash is lame unless it's just displaying numbers
digital gauges look like trash 99% of the time and always seem to be laggy

[indigo coral]

the tach in our explorer/taurus is useless

[civic girder]

I don't mind the Prius digital dash cause there's no gauges, it just displays speed

[stoic ledge]

It it the Ford system with a center speedo and small screens on both sides? With a super tiny tach in the left screen?

[indigo coral]

yes

[civic girder]

don't put digital gauges in the car unless they look good and are at least 60fps, if not higher

a tach is useless in a sports car if it's not responsive

[stoic ledge]

Is this perfection? xD

[indigo coral]

I like mine

[civic girder]

oh god what the hell are those colors

[stoic ledge]

It's amber/yellow/idk

Something like that

It's quite nice at night

[dense shard]

I quite like Toyota's approach.

Analog and digital

[civic girder]

The one true gauge cluster

[stoic ledge]

Very easy to the eyes

[civic girder]

orange on black is nice

[civic girder]

white on black is ok too

that yellow one looks awful to me

[indigo coral]

the floating dial thing is kinda cool

on mine

[civic girder]

@dense shard that looks all digital to me

or at least the speedometer is digital

[stoic ledge]

All interior lighting has that color

[indigo coral]

yikes

[civic girder]

yea, that's a yikes from me chief

[indigo coral]

that's a yucky color

[stoic ledge]

Lol I actually prefer this over some cars that have like green, blue etc

[civic girder]

yea, I'm not sure they could've picked a worse color

[stoic ledge]

Nah I disagree

[civic girder]

the teal in the Prius is aight

[stoic ledge]

Yikes that I do hate

It just looks like the 1980's

[civic girder]

exactly

that's why its good

[stoic ledge]

Lol no

[civic girder]

but the the perfect dash is orange on black and full analog

This is how you gauge cluster

[stoic ledge]

But mine is basically orange 👀

[civic girder]

yellow =/= orange

[stoic ledge]

Well the pic color is a tad different than irl

But it's in-between orange and yellow

Idk, can't describe

xD

[civic girder]

yours looks like black on yellow with a red meter

or actually more like a yellow on yellow that's kinda sorta on black

[stoic ledge]

Ah the needle is red, yea

[civic girder]

the red needle makes it 100x more tacky

[stoic ledge]

Lol ok xD

[civic girder]

the needles in the RX-7 are white

so they glow orange when you shine the orange backlight on them

[stoic ledge]

Some people have been swapping out the LEDs, but that's worse imho
https://www.ledperf.co.uk/images/ledperf.com/brands-packs-cars-vans/opel/corsa-d/leds-kits/led-dashboard-blue-opel-corsa-d_2055.jpg

[civic girder]

nah, that blue looks better

also that is an awful pic

[stoic ledge]

No the blue is horrible

[civic girder]

too each their own I guess

[stoic ledge]

I like the warm glow of the orange/amber xD

Yes

http://www.flanker-aviation.com/CorsaDForum/Corsa149.jpg
This is acceptable imho

[dense shard]

The 'rolla's speedo is digital, the rest is analog.

[civic girder]

ah

they made those analog gauges look like digital

how laggy is the speedo?

[stoic ledge]

The Corolla one is acceptable, since it looks analog

[dense shard]

Zero lag.

[civic girder]

X to doubt, but ok

[dense shard]

no joke

It's actually smooth.

Infotainment is another matter, but not the topic.

[civic girder]

I have yet to see a digital gauge that meets my standards

[dense shard]

I don't stare at the gauges.

It beats anything the last 20 years had to offer imo.

[civic girder]

I don't either, but if it's not 60fps it will distract and bother me

[stoic ledge]

I have yet to see a digital gauge that meets my standards

Yet you drive a Prius with a slow digital gauge xD

[dense shard]

I don't think it's 60... then again I haven't looked.

[civic girder]

@stoic ledge the difference between the Prius gauge and other digital gauges is that there's no needle

[dense shard]

It won't accelerate fast enough for refresh rate to matter.

I can switch the speed to a digital one.

But stylistically it leaves the cluster a bit barren.

[civic girder]

digital needles are too slow and laggy for me

[dense shard]

I've had no issues with lag or speed.

[civic girder]

if you display the number like a digital clock, I think its acceptable

[stoic ledge]

Yeah but tbh I actually dislike those like your Prius that only update like once/twice a second xD

[civic girder]

I don't mind it. It's so slow that the speed might barely change in the time it takes for the screen to update, lmao

[dense shard]

The digital needle swings smoothly. I don't notice any ratcheting.

[civic girder]

I'd have to see it in person to confirm

[dense shard]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[civic girder]

Playing so many games at 60fps really makes anything less, glaring

partly why I can't watch TV shows most of the time

[dense shard]

Once again. I don't stare at it. My gauge cluster running at 30 fps and 60 fps is utterly irrelevant.

[civic girder]

yea, everyone is different

[indigo coral]

mines not electronic and thus a non issue

[civic girder]

I'm just saying for me, if it was less than maybe 50fps it would distract me

[indigo coral]

it's just inaccurate

[civic girder]

lmao

[indigo coral]

Reads about 2mph higher than I'm actually going

Incredibly obnoxious but there's not much I can do to fix it

[civic girder]

I do prefer complete analog, it's only as responsive as the car

[stoic ledge]

Not being 100% accurate is normal

[civic girder]

^

[indigo coral]

Still annoying af.

[civic girder]

I swear the Prius is inaccurate most of the time too

but only by like 1 mph

RX-7 has mood swings on gauge accuracy

sometimes 1st gear will top at like 28, other times the speedo will read like 32

[indigo coral]

like red line at 28mph?

[civic girder]

well, that's what the speedo will read when the tach is at redline and my foot was mashed into the floor from about 2k rpm

somewhere between 28 and 32

[indigo coral]

my car is so wildly inconsistent in terms of acceleration it's hard to gauge how quick it'll go

Lol

[civic girder]

RX-7 is like that too

but I think that's mostly due to a worn throttle cable, the diff still needs new oil, and one of the brakes is fucked

[indigo coral]

The ecu's fuckery makes it sometimes feel quite peppy and decent, and other times it decides that it's just not going to shift right now and you have to suffer through acceleration in 3rd

[civic girder]

The Prius is really consistent

always takes a couple seconds for the engine to rev up and the CVT to drop to a low ratio

and then it's got the same consistency in how slow it gets up to speed

[indigo coral]

Sometimes my car feels like 8 seconds, sometimes it feels more like 12.

[civic girder]

Prius always feels like 9 seconds

[stoic ledge]

Imagine going sub 10s

[civic girder]

RX-7 will sometimes feel like 8, other times it'll feel like 10

Sometimes the throttle doesn't open all the way tho

hence why I think the throttle cable is worn

[indigo coral]

i had our bluedriver dongle plugged in and was driving around, i gunned it onto highway and only got to 60% throttle according to that thing

[civic girder]

and then the vacuum system is really weird, so the carb secondaries don't open at the same rpms all the time

[indigo coral]

Mines (obviously) not carbed

[civic girder]

sometimes they won't open at all because of the throttle thing

but then if I push the pedal more, they'll open and you'll feel it kick as you gain like 15hp

[indigo coral]

Mine really picks up at 3k rpm

Like a switch

[civic girder]

VVT baby

[indigo coral]

You can feel something change and it gets significantly quicker

[stoic ledge]

^ same, VTEC

[indigo coral]

buuuut

Unless you're in power mode, it shifts at 2800rpm

Period

Unless you're really really in it

[stoic ledge]

> auto

xD

[civic girder]

That's why I find the secondaries pretty fun. It's great to feel it pick up at about 5k rpm and really shove out to 7k

and then you smell burnt oil and smile

[indigo coral]

Is it possible for a rotary to not burn oil?

[stoic ledge]

Burny oil

[civic girder]

I also find it funny how one of my buddies, when he first saw the RX-7, immediately said the car smelled like 2 stroke

@indigo coral you can run a rotary without oil, but it won't last very long

[indigo coral]

I mean can you run it with oil but not have it BURN the oil

[civic girder]

you need either motor oil, 2 stroke, or both or a rotary will die

that's what I mean too, you can't run a rotary without burning oil unless you are premixing with 2 stroke

[indigo coral]

Rip

[civic girder]

and if you are premixing, its basically the same thing as burning motor oil

in terms of emissions

(and they ofc both lubricate)

[indigo coral]

wish my car had a real engine, but alas it does not.

I'm glad to see there's no sludge though

thats a relief

[stoic ledge]

Want to trade falcon? xD

[indigo coral]

no

because I don't pay for my gas

😄

[stoic ledge]

[indigo coral]

if I did, I'd probably trade

[civic girder]

The trick to not paying much for gas is to fill up at half a tank

[stoic ledge]

You'd need to find a LPG/propane station tho xD

[civic girder]

that's how my wallet doesn't feel pain despite the RX-7s pure trash fuel economy

[indigo coral]

what mpg do you get in the rx7?

[civic girder]

well, on trips you just have to suck it up. I mean more in terms of daily life

clears throat
I average about 14mpg on a good day

[indigo coral]

oh f*ck

I usually average around 18

got 22 yesterday

[civic girder]

don't worry, the modern EPA ratings for the RX-7 is 17mpg combined

[indigo coral]

highest I've ever gotten is 24mpg

on a tank

[stoic ledge]

I never fully fill up my gas tank, only to about half

[indigo coral]

I filled mine up from 1/3 to full last night

[civic girder]

I think I got that once in the RX-7 too. But it was a freak incident and was probably back on my worn out brake shoes cause there wouldn't have been any rub

[stoic ledge]

But that lasts for about 2k miles or so, so I'm fine with that

[civic girder]

I always keep my tank above half

keeps the rust out

[stoic ledge]

Lol

[indigo coral]

When school is in session, I go through about a tank a week

if not more

[stoic ledge]

^ same

[civic girder]

The crazy thing is, I can go a week in the RX-7 on half a tank (commuting to school)

[indigo coral]

how far is your commute?

[civic girder]

like 15 miles

[indigo coral]

mines 12 each way

[civic girder]

but the RX-7 also gets in the low 20s for highway economy

[stoic ledge]

24 miles each way

[civic girder]

so that's how it stretches out like that

low amounts of city speeds, large amounts of highway speeds

[indigo coral]

I've not been on a really long trip but I suspect I could average about 21 if I drove to visit my grandparents

900 miles each way

but the speed limit is 80mph for a good chunk of it

[stoic ledge]

Oof 900 miles

[indigo coral]

which destroys fuel economy in my car

its happiest around 55

[civic girder]

I know the Prius can go like 600 miles on a single tank without issues

[stoic ledge]

I've never been 900 miles away from home 👀

[civic girder]

but that's draining it to near empty

[indigo coral]

thats cause you live in europe

[civic girder]

^

[indigo coral]

I've been through most of the western third of the US

[civic girder]

I've been through a lot of central US

[dense shard]

Mostly Southeast for me.

[civic girder]

farthest west I've gone is Colorado, and farthest east is florida/north carolina

[dense shard]

Though I've been through a lot of the East Coast.

[stoic ledge]

Ah not true apparently, I've been to Rome which is rougly 900 miles But that's by plane

[civic girder]

farthest south is florida

and farthest north is probably Michigan

unless you count actually going into Canada

[dense shard]

Been to Canada.

[indigo coral]

I'm considering going to canada this summer

[stoic ledge]

#Jealous

[indigo coral]

once I'm able to cross the border

[civic girder]

Canada is aight

highway speed limits are s l o w though

[stoic ledge]

I cross the border everyday

[dense shard]

100 km/h is fine.

[indigo coral]

I'm not able to right now 😦

[dense shard]

I'd love to drive coast to coast one day.

[civic girder]

it's still lower than average US highway speed limit

100kmh is lower than 65mph

[stoic ledge]

It's 62mph

[dense shard]

yep

Good speed for fuel economy.

[civic girder]

and I usually never speed at all in Canada because getting pulled over in a foreign country would suck

[stoic ledge]

^ that's why they are going to reduce it from 130kph to 100kph here next March

[civic girder]

so 62mph vs like 68mph on US soil is definitely slower

[dense shard]

sure

But what's the rush.

[civic girder]

There's no real rush, but it just sucks

[indigo coral]

a county near me wants to set a blanket speed limit of 25mph in their boundaries

for every road

including I5

LOL.

[dense shard]

Good luck.

25 is a bit slow.

[indigo coral]

particularly for a 7 lane highway.

[civic girder]

As funny as the Ohio speeding ticket meme is, I wish the cops would enforce speed limits more than they actually do

you have no idea how often I've seen people going easily 30+ over the limit in some areas

[indigo coral]

imo, they shouldn't be pulling over people driving 7 over or whatever, they should pull over people driving actualyl recklessly

swerving and weaving, excessively faster than traffic, etc

[civic girder]

and that's on top of how those roads already have too high a speed limit

[indigo coral]

none of the roads here have a "too high" speed limit

idk about midwest

but the interstate is set at 60, and most everything else is less

[civic girder]

well, we have some narrow windy roads

[indigo coral]

until you get a fair bit away when it jumps to 70 on the interstate

[civic girder]

and 35mph is too high for a blind corner on a road so narrow that if your mirror was on the line you'd probably hit the mirror of an oncoming car

[indigo coral]

there's some really fun fast roads around here

but its too far to go for a joyride

[stoic ledge]

What's a "narrow road" in the US? xd

[dense shard]

Someone's driveway.

[civic girder]

so narrow that both cars have to nearly go off the road to pass safely

[indigo coral]

yikes

[civic girder]

we have a few of those around here

[dense shard]

I'm just happy I'm not in Japan.

Some of the roads there were too tight for a kei car.

[civic girder]

and they're 35-40 for some reason, even though they should be 25

[dense shard]

omega oops

[civic girder]

especially once you factor in how old that pavement is

even going 20 will fuck your suspension

oh yea, there's also a town here who's main road is 45, but the condition of the pavement only warrants speeds of like 15

[indigo coral]

yikes

our roads aren't bad here

for the most part

[stoic ledge]

Lol

[indigo coral]

i5 is shitty as hell though

its just so heavily travelled

[dense shard]

Alabama roads are fine. Occasional bullshit hole, but well... I try to avoid those.

[indigo coral]

parts of 5 make you feel like you have a flat tire

[civic girder]

I know that feel

[stoic ledge]

Belgians have a nice habit to put a manhole cover exactly where your tires go

[civic girder]

we have that a lot

and the road sinks and breaks over time

soo the manhole cover sticks out of the road

[stoic ledge]

^ yea

[civic girder]

I hate that so much

[stoic ledge]

Same

I swerve around those which I know

Looks like I'm drunk then

But /care

[indigo coral]

i can only wonder how terrible it would be in a sports car or something when the whole back of my car is slamming around in a LEXUS SUV that has squishy suspension

[stoic ledge]

It's very bad

[indigo coral]

oof the replacement part for my car is coming today

to fix what we broke

lol

[stoic ledge]

Inb4 a new engine

[indigo coral]

nah

just a little vacuum switching thingy

was a plastic piece that broke off

20y/o thin plastic

so we ordered a new one

[civic girder]

you broke a solenoid valve I'm guessing

[indigo coral]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0814MPNFB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

one of the plastic things at the end

[civic girder]

I broke like 3 of those on the RX-7, then just decided to say fuck it and bypass them because they aren't needed and you can't get new ones anyways

[indigo coral]

no big deal, we jerry rigged it while we ordered a new one

[civic girder]

yep, vacuum solenoid switching valve

I was right

[indigo coral]

we broke off the second attach thing at the end

so we put a slit in it and slid the tube over teh end

so it worked fine

[civic girder]

how many of those valves does your car have?

[indigo coral]

2

[civic girder]

lucky

[indigo coral]

as far as I know

its right on top of the engine, just under the cover

easy to get at

1 screw to replace it

[civic girder]

the RX-7 has 6, iirc. I broke 3 of them, one of them still works, and one of them that isn't broken doesn't work

[indigo coral]

rip

[civic girder]

and one of the broken ones I haven't sealed yet

[indigo coral]

idk what the thing does

i just know we broke it and have to replace it xD

[civic girder]

so you can hear the vacuum leak when you shift up from redline

it's great

I almost don't want to fix it because it almost sounds like a turbo

[indigo coral]

is it possible to put a turbo on a rotary?

[civic girder]

yes

there were multiple factory turbo rotaries

including a twin turbo rotary

[indigo coral]

oof

[civic girder]

yea

people like to single turbo swap the FD because twin turbo makes the engine bay hotter than hell itself

FDs like to overheat in warm climates because of that too

if you want to keep twin turbo, you have too upgrade your cooling system

and heat wrap things

[drifting mantle]

Crap sorry for taking so long to respond @stoic ledge
I have a 1998 Accord LX, 5-speed manual.
Got it a few months ago at 212,976 miles.

[civic girder]

check your spark plugs

at that mileage, you're prolly gonna need em

[drifting mantle]

https://i.gyazo.com/71dbc8b123d9b3f89f73bb5bf086efbd.png

That's what I've done so far

Since I got it

[civic girder]

def do plugs

[drifting mantle]

Yup

(Uploading)

[civic girder]

I'm going to need to change the plugs on my Prius soon

I'm nearing 100k miles

[indigo coral]

i did plugs on my RX

[drifting mantle]

So the color was supposed to be a kinda dark purple, but came out more of a hot pink x'D

[civic girder]

yea, I just need to get a longer extension so I can reach down the wells

[drifting mantle]

I got another valve cover and heat shield from the junk yard (In better condition than my own)
Gonna take my time painting those.

[civic girder]

cause whoever designed the 1.5L in the Prius decided that the spark plugs should be basically inside the cylinder

[drifting mantle]

Likely going to give up on coloring it though, and just have it be silver.

Oh lol x'D

[civic girder]

I would leave it stock color

maybe repaint it silver if its bad

[drifting mantle]

Oh crap I forgot to put the spark plugs in that maintenance history xD

[civic girder]

unless you're building a showcar, I don't see a reason to paint things aftermarket colors

[drifting mantle]

And yeah, I'm giving up on color.

[civic girder]

let me get a pic of my maintenance history on the RX-7

[drifting mantle]

I wanted to, just cause I like purple. More midnight purple tho (I can find the pic of the mistake I did when trying to paint the replacement covers)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502611142871482394/634140747205181440/image0.jpg

That is more of the color I wanted.
I used VHT's "purple" and got the color in that first pic I sent.
This 2nd pic, is Dupli-color's purple.

(With a bit of VHT's black lightly sprayed over it)

[civic girder]

oh rip, I forgot to reinstall Office after i reinstalled Windows

[drifting mantle]

lol

[civic girder]

I can show the bootleg Discord message version instead

[drifting mantle]

Gonna go look to see when I got the plugs, so I can add them to the history.

Ahh alright cool, they came in with the plug wires.

So I'm pretty sure I replaced them at the same time.

[drifting mantle]

And crap, I thought I added that to it xD

I need to do a brake job on the car.
Passenger-side rotor has a groove in it (Didn't check when I got the car)
And the drums / shoes are dead x'D

[civic girder]

oh, I should take "tighten handbrake cable" off there. There's nothing I can do to fix it without a special screw that I can't find anywhere online

[drifting mantle]

I replaced the pads for the front brakes, and will do all 4 wheels when I get my tax refund.

Oof

[civic girder]

yea

the self adjuster in one of my drums got fucked

so that wheel doesn't engage the e-brake

[drifting mantle]

I have to pull hard on the e-brake when I'm on a hill, otherwise the car can slowly move downhill, if it get shaked.

[dense shard]

I spy an Accord.

[drifting mantle]

Yeeper

[dense shard]

good times

[drifting mantle]

Got it for a bit over 1 thousand

[dense shard]

Sounds about right.

[civic girder]

how much are Accords worth?

[indigo coral]

lol its insane how high lexus repair prices are at a dealer

[civic girder]

lUxUrY cAr

[indigo coral]

spark plug job = 2k

[dense shard]

Right now... the 98-02s... I'd say no more than 3 grand.

[civic girder]

damn

[dense shard]

They had transmission issues. The V6 was a gem, but same tranny.

Manuals are rare.

[civic girder]

makes sense

[drifting mantle]

Ye, watching Scotty's videos, I made sure to get a manual

[dense shard]

Also I don't see many pre-04 Hondas without paint issues.

[drifting mantle]

My first ever car, being this x3

[dense shard]

Scotty will say two totally different things in the same video.

[civic girder]

I know I basically stole the RX-7 from the dude

[indigo coral]

scotty kilmer is a crackpot, ignore anything he says.

[dense shard]

Treat the automatic well and it will last.

[civic girder]

they're worth like $4.5k, but I paid less than $2k

[dense shard]

I had an autobox Accord, and it had about 150k when my family sold it. Amusingly it wasn't the transmission that died.

Anyway. Scotty's videos... I'm personally not a fan of it.

[stoic ledge]

^ i agree

[dense shard]

I know that really revs people's engines up when I say that.

[indigo coral]

oh god

[drifting mantle]

xD

[dense shard]

lol

[drifting mantle]

Ehh. I've learned from him and ChrisFix.
I guess might not be the most correct information, but I used to never be into cars, and am now working on my car.

[dense shard]

modern technology is really high tech

-Scotty 2019

all cars have planned obsolescence.

[stoic ledge]

I've always been into cars, but never worked on them xD

[dense shard]

That's become the bullshit catch all phrase for shit you don't like

[stoic ledge]

Well Scotty is bs tbh

[dense shard]

Planned obsolescence doesn't make sense for cars.

If your car breaks in 2 years... you won't go back to that brand. Nor will you recommend it.

Automakers want you to come back.

So to design a car that will die in a few years is the opposite of what you'd want.

[normal temple]

@civic girder "consider AFR gauge" did you consider yet

[dense shard]

Hell... that's kind of why automakers are putting in android auto and carplay. It's a future tech that they don't have to worry about. That's on people with phones.

I don't think new Toyotas will last 250k

[stoic ledge]

I quite like Android auto

[dense shard]

oh cripes... that's why I removed him from my play lists.

[stoic ledge]

I don't think new eco muesli 1.0 turbo 3-cyl engines will last 250k

[dense shard]

He's using the Corolla recall as a reason to not buy the new Corolla.

[indigo coral]

literally like every car has had a recall

of some sort

[dense shard]

A few hundred cars were recalled over a weld issue.

[indigo coral]

including his beloved 94 celica

[stoic ledge]

Be glad they fixed it

[indigo coral]

looks at subrau ascent

[dense shard]

oh lol that

[civic girder]

@normal temple not yet. All it would really do is make tuning easier, but would be a pain to install since I don't have a welder and have no idea where to put it; not to mention I don't want aftermarket gauges and shit cluttering up my interior

[dense shard]

"have a new car"

To be fair. Subaru forgot a weld.

[normal temple]

Oof

[dense shard]

And it was cheaper, faster, easier, safer to just give em a new car.

[civic girder]

lmao

[indigo coral]

didn't they have to pay the difference or something?

[dense shard]

I don't think so.

Unless it was an upgrade.

[indigo coral]

idk

[dense shard]

What Owners Should Do
Subaru will notify owners, and dealers will inspect the vehicle to check for missing spot welds. If the welds are missing, the vehicle will be replaced, free of charge.

That was an oof

[indigo coral]

our Explorer has had a half dozen recalls 👀

[dense shard]

The new Mazda 3 had a couple.

Including one for lug nuts coming off.

[indigo coral]

its not even uncommon to open our mailbox and find yet another recall from ford

[dense shard]

That's horrible.

[indigo coral]

they do it over super minor stuff though

[dense shard]

@drifting mantle Don't let our hate of scotty drive you away.

[indigo coral]

like the glue for the door panel covering stuff might cause a bit of seperation. So only aesthetic stuff

[civic girder]

funy thing is, the RX-7 only had one recall. It was on the cotter key that holds a castle nut onto one of the steering rack components

[dense shard]

We also hate everything else.

[indigo coral]

first gen RX had a couple recalls, but only for the FWD models w/ trac

[dense shard]

The Accord had the full blown law suit.

Ended up with a warranty extension for the transmission.

[civic girder]

lmaoo

[indigo coral]

I'm surprised how peppy the 07 RX350 is

[drifting mantle]

@dense shard No worries. I don't mind, I just don't have anything to say.
Also, someone called me x'D

[civic girder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/345757139475890177/663246944935739402/2020-01-05_00-05-20.mp4

rotary swap Fiat 125p

[normal temple]

My ears blewup

[fathom socket]

how u get rotary on beam/automation?

[jagged coyote]

there's a mod

[grand axle]

So my car feels so much better :)

But inspecting rims, there's usually clips on all rims, but the one i replaced doesn't have one and now the left back rim now has 2? Does this mean anything

[indigo coral]

did you get a balance? @grand axle

[shadow osprey]

The things you call clips are most likely wheel weights

they're there to balance the wheels/tires to give you a smooth ride

looks like this?

[normal temple]

scammed

[fathom socket]

and to make tyre wear more even

i'd say youre alright though

[civic girder]

I'm impressed with my RX-7's performance today.

140+ miles and not a single issue.

And 23mpg is quite impressive. But then you have to remember it was 99.9% highway cruising and the combined average is rated for 17mpg

[normal temple]

Mfw a Rotary is getting better fuel economy than me

[fair bronze]

She wants to stay with you @civic girder :)

It's a good sign

[civic girder]

yee

[shadow osprey]

23mpg wtf

[indigo coral]

Not bad

I'd love to get 23mpg on a routine basis

[lethal garnet]

i get 13-16

[indigo coral]

I get 17-19

unless I do a load of highway, then I get ~20

maybe 21-22

[civic girder]

If you guys think 23mpg is a miracle number, think about how my wallet feels when I put gas in the RX-7 vs the daily

and then add on the cost of 2 stronk

[indigo coral]

considering the most efficient car we have averages 19...

23 is pretty damn good

[dense shard]

man... I get high 30s in my Corolla on the highway.

[civic girder]

me and my high 40s/low 50s Prius

[fathom socket]

My friend has a 2014 Chevy Cruze LT with the 1.6l diesel.

He gets mid 50 mpg on the highway.

[indigo coral]

almost was able to swing a 2015 cruze for 750$

unfortunately it didnt pan out

[fathom socket]

Was it crashed?

[indigo coral]

no

[fathom socket]

That'd too cheap for 2015

[indigo coral]

friend of mine was moving to the city center area

not some random on CL or something

[fathom socket]

How many miles did it have?

[indigo coral]

iirc it was ~95k

which is fairly high for a 2015, but not crazy

he ended up getting an apartment that included a parking spot so he kept it

[dense shard]

I'm just sad they stopped selling the Cruzes as manuals in 2019.

[fathom socket]

That's still too cheap for a 2015

[indigo coral]

initially he was going to not have one, and to street park in our city is f*cking ludicrous

absolutely insane

[dense shard]

Otherwise it would have been short listed for me.

[indigo coral]

when I was in the city it was 40$ for 1.5hrs

to park while we went to dinner

[dense shard]

Not the pretties car though.

[fathom socket]

My Dad thought about optioning his Cruze with a manual.

He didn't though.

[dense shard]

And fell short of the competition.

[fathom socket]

What do you mean?

[indigo coral]

I'm a bit glad I ended up with my RX though because its nice having some space

idk how y'all survive with small cars

[fathom socket]

The interior is garbage.

[dense shard]

Build quality, material quality, and reliability falls short of Honda and Toyota.

[fathom socket]

But other than that.

It's a good car.

I don't have a small car.

[dense shard]

I can't imagine it being better than a Honda or Toyota.

Or Mazda.

[indigo coral]

was more of a rhetorical question, or alternatively directed at montecarlo

[fathom socket]

The smallest car I owned was a 3.8l 2005 Chevy Impala.

[indigo coral]

i just put a lot of people and or sh*t in my car fairly often

[dense shard]

The Corolla isn't that small.

[indigo coral]

so having some space is nice

[dense shard]

Then again I usually drive solo or with one passenger.

The Corolla hatch is a bachelor's car.

[indigo coral]

I have between two and 4 passengers pretty much whenever I go somewhere, with the exception of school

[fathom socket]

The 3.8l is probably GM's strongest engine next to the LS V8.

[indigo coral]

tbh probably

[dense shard]

no disagreement here

[indigo coral]

tbh, I do wonder about the tiny 4cyl in all the new cars

they're probably going to crap the bed quicker than less-stressed engines

[dense shard]

no clue tbh

Natural aspiration is the way to go with small cars imo

Cheaper, lighter, more durable.

[fathom socket]

All the new 4 cylinders are bad.

[dense shard]

I disagree.

[indigo coral]

I mean when youre lugging around a 5k lb SUV with a turbo 2L 4

theres something wrong

[dense shard]

The dynamic force is brilliant.

[indigo coral]

smallest i'd go for an suv is a decent v6

[dense shard]

Smooth, powerful, and good on gas.

[fathom socket]

Because they have VVT and all that other fuel economy crap.

[dense shard]

I wouldn't call good fuel economy crap.

[fathom socket]

It causes them to fail.

[dense shard]

Not really.

[fathom socket]

Yeah.

[indigo coral]

4 pots have their place in small hatchbacks and stuff, but when they're tuned to high heaven or wayy overworked they're going to start dropping like flies

[dense shard]

Variable Valve Timing has been around for decades.

And last I heard it's not a common failure point on cars.

Timing belts, sure.

[indigo coral]

like seriously - Mercedes has a 2.0 4cyl getting 416hp

thats ludicrous