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#cars
stoic ledge
The ecotecs had tons of timing chain issues.
Step 1) Make sure the oil is at max
Step 2) Keep it there
If oil at max -> nothing will happen
If oil under 1/2 -> corner fast, chain can run dry and stretch
normal temple
@stoic ledge Over max so you have extra leftover
civic spoke
I'm happy that my E46 isn't burning oil.
civic spoke
Driven like 10,000 km's without noticing any oil loss.
Since the last oil change, that is.
fathom socket
@stoic ledge It wasn't just the timing chain, it was all the tensioners as well as the cam phasers that were known to break.
And, it's important that you change the oil a 3,000 miles instead of what computer tells you. There was actually a recall on some of the Ecotecs stating that the oil be changed early. But it goes for all of them, change the oil every 3,000 miles, and it'll last you till 200,000 miles.
I know very little about the 2016-present Ecotecs though. My Dad has a 2017 Chevy Cruze 1.4l Ecotec, it has almost 60,000 miles on it. And it's never had any issues besides the throttle position sensor on the gas pedal which was replaced under warranty. And I don't know if you would count the radiator and the turbo, because they were replaced after an accident.
stoic ledge
Those are European Ecotecs by Opel, those are good 
fathom socket
I know the transmission on my Dad's car isn't the strongest though.
When he first got it, the tranny would slip all the time.
Now it seems to be okay.
He did have an old 2014 Chevy Cruze with over 130,000 miles when the head gasket blew.
So we fixed that and sold it.
It had the 1.8l Turboed Ecotec.
Those were just known for having head gasket problems.
Because they didn't use enough head bolts.
So the head gasket was weak.
stoic ledge
1.8 Turbo?
fathom socket
Yes.
stoic ledge
Still not sure about the 1.8 Turbo part iirc
fathom socket
Look up the specs for that model.
stoic ledge
It only shows a 1.8 non-Turbo
stoic ledge
I'm also not aware of a GM 1.8 Turbo
fathom socket
It was slow though.
Going from 138 HP to 155 makes a difference in a car that small.
stoic ledge
That's why you have to remap it Our Meriva has the same engine but detuned (120hp, A14NEL), tuned to 170hp.
fathom socket
Also the lag is a lot better on the 2017.
stoic ledge
Turbo lag is good, those are the real turbos xD
fathom socket
It still is kinda annoying when you step on the gas and it doesn't go anywhere until the turbo spools up.
Then you spin the tires and still don't go anywhere.
stoic ledge
I'm used to having no power, so having a turbo kicking in is better xD
fathom socket
I guess that's true.
stoic ledge
Imagine having a 1.2 Ecotec without turbo
fathom socket
I drive a 600 HP Duramax, so my Dad's car feels super slow.
It's a 2005 3500 with the LBZ duramax along with the Allison transmission.
The LBZ is known as the toughest Duramax made.
stoic ledge
My Corsa can outpull it 10/10
fathom socket
In case you didn't know, that's a diesel engine.
stoic ledge
Yeah i know xD
stoic ledge
Lbsft or NM?
stoic ledge
Oof
fathom socket
I forgot there are the wierd metric guys always wanting me to switch to them.
What engine does your Corsa have?
stoic ledge
Propane and gas
fathom socket
I'm actually serious.
Yours might get me off the line.
Cause my truck never has traction when racing.
stoic ledge
Yeah I believe ya, yours spins while mine instantly moves. Slow, but it moves xD
fathom socket
But when my tires hook up, I'll come blasting past you like a freight train.
stoic ledge
I can switch to race fuel (gas), which increases the hp from 83 to 86 and the Nm from 110 to 115
fathom socket
There's advantages and disadvantages to owning a super powerful diesel.
stoic ledge
🙃
fathom socket
Not bad
fathom socket
Yeah
Cya.
If you build a 600 HP Duramax, never expect the rear end to hold up.
The first time I launched it, it completely tore up the rear end.
fair bronze
Just in case you ever build a 600 HP Duramax @stoic ledge
stoic ledge
I was just about to Duramax swap the Corsa
crimson wraith
Sometimes I have my moments but just in this moment, I think this is beautiful.
eager kite
warm sparrow
midnight peak
audi has been experimenting with electric vehicles for a while
volkswagen group has lots of experience in WEC, and in formula E
bitter compass
over here are a few electric a3 driving around
since like... 2016 🤔
but yes etron sounds stupid 👀
i think a a3 sized fully electric audi based on the id3 platform would be cool 🤔
crimson wraith
It really gets weird when you see BMW 3 series and 1 series with an E badge in the number plate.
crimson wraith
Well yeah, but did I miss the release of an electric 3 series? 🤔
crimson wraith
Nevermind, getting me a shovel now.
bitter compass
they showed it at the same time when they presented their status in autonomous driving
but i think most of them are like the i3 with a good old gasoline motor added to the electric one
stoic ledge
"Electric" A3's are plug-in's, like the Golf GTE etc. Not full BEV's.
Also, they started selling/building the E-Tron in 2018 🤔
Also, Etron (E-Tron) is French for 💩 xD
indigo coral
I saw an E-Tron yesterday
bitter compass
meh suv
indigo coral
its a good car, and imo nice looking, but its just too short of range & lacking a charging network in the US
I'd only get a tesla in the US, since theyre the ones with a reliable charging network
bitter compass
I'd get anything but a tesla because i don't really trust in the repairing process, but then again most fully electric vehicles arr huge or.. a smart
indigo coral
Model 3 is small, wym?
bitter compass
but thats tesla then again 🤷
indigo coral
true
the svc centers are super overworked in cali and stuff, not too bad up here
theyre improving, and the 3 is proving MUCH more reliable than the S or X
bitter compass
europe xd
indigo coral
ah, idk how it is over there in terms of service centers.
dense shard
Better than the US I imagine.
indigo coral
idk, Bjorn has had loads of problems in norway
dense shard
Remember Tesla can't sell in half the states in the US due to dealer strangleholds on local governments.
dense shard
After all remember. Local dealers have been paying for little league teams since 1792.
indigo coral
lol
dense shard
Who will fund them if they go away?! (besides parents now having enough money to do it themselves now that dealers aren't screwing us out of every dollar. :3c)
indigo coral
in PNW there's quite a few teslas, but there doesn't seem to be lots of crowding at superchargers or svc centers or anything
dense shard
Hopefully VW and Ford releasing EVs will push the US forward.
dense shard
Then again I don't expect VW to release any EVs and I expect Ford dealers to take the boomer approach to the Mach E.
dense shard
Dealers really need to go away.
indigo coral
most of their cars are focused on Europe so far
dense shard
Time to stop getting fucked by the middle man.
indigo coral
yeah
big markups
there was a dealer near me that had one of the new Supras, they put it in a glass case and charged people to look at it 😂
obviously it didn't sell
they wanted something like 90k for it
dense shard
"Supra don't sell because people don't wanna buy it"
Not for a 100% markup plus fees to test drive the fucker.
indigo coral
yeah
dense shard
Remember. Like Gamers, Dealerships are the most oppressed people on the planet.
hashtag popcult memes
indigo coral
working with dealers is always a huge pain in the ass
dense shard
Incredible pain.
indigo coral
when we were buying our explorer, we looked at a '16 sport at a dealer but they kept adding all kinds of bullshit "required fees"
so we walked out
dense shard
Which is why I'm happy to say that I made the sales manager lose his shit.
indigo coral
the car was listed at 32... by the time they finished tacking shit on and stuff, it was 41.
So yeah.
Dealers are a pain.
dense shard
"hey guys, can to you take toyota care off as an option"
"no we can't it's already installed"
"I... wait how do you irreversibly tack on a service!?"
80 dollar phone cables included in a little baggie NOT JB welded to the car?
Can't take it out.
indigo coral
yeah, its dumb.
dense shard
wow gg guys
You waxed my car and scotchguarded the seats.
Totally worth 700 dollars.
indigo coral
700$???!
dense shard
It does include 2 oil changes, 4 tire rotations, and assistance in case my car ever breaks. Knocking on wood, but I DID buy a Toyota.
hold on.
yeah
indigo coral
wow
dense shard
699 dollars cause I'm sure the dealer would get pissy
Which is why I almost trolled em down to 23.5
I should have said 23k.
Still I got my car at MSRP without any options... So I got my car with a 2000 dollar discount about.
indigo coral
nice
dense shard
And, keep this to yourself buuuutttttt, I told em I was going to recommend them.
That was a lie.
dense shard
Local Nissan dealership was apparently way more aggressive in winning over a customer. It seems both Toyota and Honda rolling on rep, and have partially given up on treating customers like actual people.
Oh I'm well aware, also I haven't forgotten the dealer could have treated me better.
indigo coral
I'd still never buy a Nissan. Except for a 300ZX
dense shard
Honestly if I was shopping for a new car right now and I wanted an automatic.
I'd include Nissan.
Everyone apart from Honda have brand new compacts on the market.
Honda recently refreshed the Civic. Now is a great time to see what is what if you want cutting edge.
fair bronze
'Nissan' and 'cutting edge' don't really go together
dense shard
why not
They have some excellent safety tech right now. Competitive platforms and engines.
They just need to kill the pathfinder and release a new Rogue and they'll be back in business.
New Sentra actually looks good, and has a modern suspension setup... unlike Mazda.
indigo coral
their cvts are nightmareishly bad
stoic ledge
That's why you get the manual ;)
fallow plover
have anyone here tested a car with ABS but without brakebooster (having either single or dual master cylinder only) and the ABS kicked in, how is the pedal responding? (punching back) is it much as in breaking your leg or just somewhat more than with brakebooster? want to get rid of my brakebooster for more direct pedal feel
indigo coral
or just dont buy a nissan
flint sable
fair bronze
@dense shard We don't get any of the cars you mentioned
dense shard
Honestly I don't get the hate against Nissan.
Their CVTs, besides not being the most durable, are totally fine in daily driving.
My parents' Rogue doesn't pretend to have gears. It just gets up and goes.
Also a used Boxster is gonna probably need 5 grand in repairs and is a 2 door.
fair bronze
It's not hate, it's them not being particularly innovative or outstanding
dense shard
And a teens M5 is honestly just begging to hire a mechanic full time.
ProPilot 2.0 is pretty outstanding is the thing.
Not sure how one becomes innovative at a budget, but their styling has improved with the updated models.
fair bronze
They're generally just meh at best
dense shard
But hey. If Mazda can call a twist beam rear suspension an innovation, I think we can call Nissan's dual port injection a wild departure from all automotive norms.
fair bronze
Over here most Nissans are just Renaults with a different design
dense shard
If it works, it works.
fair bronze
That doesn't change anything about them though
dense shard
I'm just not sure what other automakers have on Nissan that makes Nissan so meh.
fair bronze
They don't really stand out in anything
dense shard
Budget cars.
fair bronze
Not really
indigo coral
they have a dreadful interior, poor performance, while costing as much as their vastly better competition
dense shard
My parents got a Rogue for far less than a RAV4.
Interior isn't that horrible.
And the fuel economy is pretty damn great.
The new Sentra, Versa are actually quite nice on the inside.
fair bronze
Over here the only 'budget' cars they sell are the Micra and the Juke
dense shard
Certainly no worse than say... a Yaris or Sonic.
fair bronze
Isn't your Yaris actually a Mazda 2
stoic ledge
But not as good as a Corsa
Runs
fair bronze
I'd take a Yaris over a Micra any day
indigo coral
A base Maxima costs more than a base Stinger, and is only marginally cheaper than the 3.3T Stinger... The Stinger has a nicer interior, better performance and dynamics, imo better looks, and a better warranty
also the Stinger is rwd/awd
stoic ledge
I'd take a Mazda 2 over a Yaris/Micra/... Anyday xD
indigo coral
and has a real, ZF 8HP trans instead of a CVT
dense shard
The Mazda 2 is getting on in age in the US.
fair bronze
@stoic ledge They're kinda expensive though unfortunately
stoic ledge
Yesn't
stoic ledge
That's a Mazda with a weird front xD
dense shard
Also the styling seriously doesn't line up with the rest of Toyota.
fair bronze
Because it isn't a Toyota
dense shard
Toyota should have gone through the effort to federalize the Yaris.
Or just stop selling it in the US.
dense shard
Looks like a Toyota at least.
dense shard
I need to call Toyota and find out if they actually have people listening in on me.
stoic ledge
But all cars in this segment is now a 5d, so I can't fit in one so /care xD
fair bronze
Haha
dense shard
oh no Android Auto is too nosy
We're doing enough to be nosy.
stoic ledge
Although the GRMN version will probably be 3 door 🙏
fair bronze
I really hope the 3-door isn't going anytime soon
dense shard
You may deactivate Connected Services at any time by contacting us; and we will no longer collect your Personal Information, Location Data, Driving Data and Vehicle Health Data.
Can I just opt out of the personal information harvesting?
and location data?
stoic ledge
Oof a baser model with smaller wheels is ugly af
https://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201910/toyota-yaris-36_800x0w.jpg
dense shard
I should contact my local congresscritter and tell them to make a law where companies are legally required to explain etc.
such as your name, address, phone number, email address, etc.
What the fuck else do ya need?!
fair bronze
I think it looks alright but bigger wheels do look better on it
stoic ledge
It will also deactivate all connected services i assume
stoic ledge
Yes
dense shard
And crash assist.
I'll turn it all off when the subscription lapses.
if you want the honor of unlocking your car from your phone, you must give us money... 8 dollars, A MONTH.
stoic ledge
Classic
dense shard
That's separate from safety connect which is 10 a month.
stoic ledge
No thnx, I'll press a button
fair bronze
I'd rather be old-fashioned and use a key
dense shard
I can use a key just fine.
fair bronze
Don't try to fix something that isn't broken
dense shard
But I'm very annoyed by nickel and diming after I paid well north of 20k.
fair bronze
There is no point in them asking that much for a stupid service like that
stoic ledge
Probably the car needs an LTE subscription plan which is otherwise deactivated?
dense shard
It's a nifty feature, just not one I'm prepared to pay that much for.
stoic ledge
Idk
dense shard
My car has a wifi hotspot, but I haven't enabled it.
dense shard
It has LTE via Verizon... thanks for the choice, not
Wifi built in.
Bluetooth is actually useful tho. For that I'm happy.
fair bronze
@stoic ledge If it does, it should be way cheaper than that
don't blame me xD
dense shard
But at this point. All these features are standard on all new cars.
fair bronze
I won't lol
stoic ledge
Oh btw, damage to my parents car is 1k
stoic ledge
No bumper can be fixed, but also the trunklid needs te be dented out and repainted
fair bronze
Oh was that dented too?
fair bronze
I checked it in our chat
stoic ledge
stoic ledge
Yes 
Going to ask the other people, what their assessment is
Police called me today, and asked for the estimate so they can present it in court
Looks like they have him or not, idk
He didn't tell me that
stoic ledge
Yeah not quite sure, but that's what the officer said to me that they need it in court
unreal terrace
Finally had time to wash "Il Diavolo Rosso"
fair bronze
Basically a Ferrari
stoic ledge
It's red, it's Italian... What else do you want?
fair bronze
Ferraris are just expensive Fiats anyway so whatever
fair bronze
I like those Puntos
stoic ledge
Same
normal temple
Damn, I need to import a Punto now
fair bronze
If you migrate to the US, you can take it with you but you can't sell it
That's what I heard anyway
fair bronze
Yes haha
stoic ledge
I mean, you'd be the only one at cars & coffee
stoic ledge
No dude, authentic is worth way more
And it's running on 2 fuels
How many cars at cars & coffee have 2 different types of fuel in them? Not many
xD
fair bronze
Hmm
stoic ledge
Hmm
unreal terrace
Didn't you guys hear the news? PSA and Fiat are joining forces
stoic ledge
Didn't you hear me saying that 2 week ago? xD
stoic ledge
unreal terrace
I wonder when they put a Ferrari engine in the viper
stoic ledge
X doubt
unreal terrace
Or they'll make a Peugeot branded ram
stoic ledge
RAM ProMaster (City) maybe
stoic ledge
FAP == best engine name
stoic ledge
Oof
unreal terrace
I think Banks got the 2018 ram engine to like 600+ bhp w/o swapping a thing
Now I'm just tryna figure out a good Peugeot or Citroen lul can't come up with any
stoic ledge
Peugeot 108 Hemi
unreal terrace
Lmao
stoic ledge
PSA can re-enter the US market via FCA Ordering a RAM 3500 for the husband, and a 1.0 Peugeot 108 for the wife xD
unreal terrace
Or even lower prices
unreal terrace
Basically :p
I usually see it as they don't actually just greed their way into everything
But like you'll swap something for something else
Like knee airbag for rear boot handle and stuff like that
stoic ledge
Well yeah sharing parts is cheap
Why develop something the same slightly different twice? xD
That's how Saab died: redeveloping sat-navs from the ground up while GM had plenty of units to choose from xD
Ok so I was just checking out the Chrysler line-up... They added the Voyager back again, besides the Pacifica? I thought the Pacifica replaced the Voyager?
unreal terrace
Wait they made another mini van?
unreal terrace
Oof
fair bronze
The Pacifica is something completely different though
dense shard
Chrysler is in denial. The fact they're marketing the Pacifica hybrid as a model, and not a trim is pretty much all the evidence needed.
stoic ledge
Oof I see, they differentiate Voyager, Pacifica and Pacifica Hybrid. 3/4 of their line-up is 1 car
Ok this web page design definitely doesn't look like Tesla
fathom socket
Close enough 
I was living under a rock that i didn't know that Mr bean used to own a McLaren f1 with a v12 BMW engine
That's legendary
fathom socket
Poor thing :/
fathom socket
Oh yeah
fathom socket
It's fix right ?
indigo coral
Elon totalled one
fathom socket
I hope the new owner knows what that car is
I thought Jay Leno's garage was the guy that kept his black McLaren F1 but other people I know surprised me that they used to own one
fathom socket
Sweet
It's funny that Richard Hammond didn't crash the red McLaren F1 in top gear
Jk
indigo coral
who was it that crashed the Rimac?
stoic ledge
Richard
stoic ledge
Yes
https://static.autoblog.nl/images/wp2015/atkinson-f1.jpg
Look at him. What a badass
fathom socket
That color is underrated in my life time
fathom socket
It's so strange and special
stoic ledge
Yeah I quite like it
fathom socket
Well that isn't that bad to fix but only problem is it cost more then a house
stoic ledge
stoic ledge
Close to 1 milion iirc
Yes
It got both a new front and back once
So basically it's 100% not as it left the factory
Everything got replaced
In 1999, he damaged the hood by driving it into the back of a Rover Metro, as one does in England. Then in 2011 Atkinson crashed the car into a tree and a road sign, resulting in an infamous and insurance company-infuriating $1.4 million repair bill.
stoic ledge
Veyron is just a VW Beetle with 24 engines combined
stoic ledge
2005 i think
stoic ledge
Yeah the prototype started way earlier
fathom socket
I see
I heard it had 18 cylinders in that production vehicle lol
I'm not sure if I'm hearing that right
Just imagine fixing the timing belt and crankshaft
Ultra nightmare
stoic ledge
In the first couple of prototypes
A 3 bank 18 cyl engine
Production models gor a W16, a 4 bank 16 cyl engine
EB 16 4, 16 cyl 4 turbo's
11 radiators iirc
stoic ledge
10 radiators, sorry xD
On top speed It's 100L fuel tank is empty within 10 minutes iirc
fathom socket
Damn
It's amazing how it drives like a gentle car but has crazy numbers of power behind you in the driver seat
Until you floor it and it's personality changes
stoic ledge
Yeah they did that well
At top speed, tires will burst after 15 minutes btw
But since it will run out of fuel after 12 minutes, you don't have to worry xD
dense shard
So extended fuel tanks aren't an option.
stoic ledge
Lol nope
fathom socket
stoic ledge
Also quite sure there isn't any room for a bigger tank xD
Luckily tires are only 50k a set
fathom socket
Yeah
My great grandfather and mother used to own one 1932 or 1921 Bugatti type something
fathom socket
They give it to there young trusted friend because my great grandparents are dying to there age so yeah
I'm sure the car is still there just don't know that person
stoic ledge
Oof RIP
fathom socket
They hand to that person with no charge because they won't live much longer with the money they got
So it was nice of them
stoic ledge
Usually they give stuff like that to their kids, no?
fathom socket
Lmao
It's hard to believe that my great grandfather worked on big Ben during the great depression and moved to USA to help the people
It's strange that your older people do special things
Welp gotta go back to work I had fun talking on here lol
dense shard
So that's what Toyota calls the spare tire removal option on the Corolla hatch.
"Cargo Enhancement "
fathom socket
so happy to have this car! 😄 only wanted a lexus for 20+ years
dense shard
I'll have to bug the Toyota guys when I get my service done soon.
Ask them about android auto.
dense shard
meh, at least bluetooth is legit.
indigo coral
~reliable~
fathom socket
Better than the Mitsu 4G63
See crank, see crank walk. Walk crank, walk!
Android Auto has been crap since day 1
fathom socket
New bumper came in! Lets get it!
tight cypress
lol doing driftos
unreal terrace
This environmentally friendly diesel soots alot more than normal 🤔
fair bronze
Who says that's from your own engine?
unreal terrace
It's just on the rear face of the car :p
unreal terrace
It does X)
unreal terrace
Actually they're not that bad, they use way less fuel
They're just very cancerogenic
civic girder
use way less fuel
nice blanket statement
riced pickups would like to challenge it
stoic ledge
Well > riced pickups
I mean, here in Europe we have many eco-diesels which in many countries got tax credits a couple of years ago
With those you could reach 50-60MPG
So yes, use less fuel
normal temple
@civic girder your car uses way less fuel and way more oil
civic girder
I'm just going with the meme
in actuality its more like 1000 miles per quart of motor oil
2 stroke is probably somewhere in the same ballpark
fathom socket
My 6.0l gets 15 MPG on the highway.
It uses no oil.
I change it exactly at 5,000 miles.
civic girder
at least my RX-7 gets like 20 on the highway
indigo coral
I've been driving my parents explorer and getting an average of.... 16 mpg!
xD
got 18 on a highway drive tho
indigo coral
I live in America too, only have a 18.something gallon tank though iirc
gas is 2.70 here
fathom socket
It depends for me.
indigo coral
costco is the best place to get gas
fathom socket
In 2012 it wad close to $4.00 a gallon.
indigo coral
yeah
fathom socket
Costco and GetGo are the cheapest.
indigo coral
At one point during the 2012 spike in gas, Diesel crested 5$
fathom socket
Now it's down to around $2.00 a gallon.
indigo coral
thankfully it aint that expensive anymore
dense shard
I'm getting about 25mpg per tank in city/hilly driving.
fathom socket
I was talking to FalconHand
indigo coral
We're going to dig into my RX tomorrow. See what we can do.
dense shard
Still haven't gone at it?
indigo coral
I was driving my parents 2014 Explorer Sport, since my '99 RX300 is broken
dense shard
Hopefully it can be made right.
indigo coral
sounds like rod knock, but its intermittent so Ive got zero clue
rod knock can't be intermittent
I'ma be lazy and just cut and paste a help post from another discord. one sec.
fathom socket
Does it have a timing chain or a belt?
indigo coral
belt
indigo coral
Anyways, the other night I was driving my 1999 Lexus RX300, and came to a stop at a stop sign and the car started bucking and running weird. I pulled off into a parking spot, and it sounded for all the world like rod knock. I immediately turned it off (intuitively), and called my dad to come take a look. He came, we started it, and the noise persisted. We ran it for a minute and asked someone else, and we all agreed it sounded like rod knock. Then, we gave it just a tiny bit of revs (well under 2k) and it quieted down a bit. We carefully drove the car home, and it made it without major issue. I took it for a short drive last night, and it intermittently knocked/rattled. It can't be rod knock, as that can't be intermittent. Any suggestions? I have a video link of it doing it briefly in the past.
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbdJLvVHtig
thats an old video but it sounded similar
dense shard
My money's on electrics.
indigo coral
ye, np. That video was about 6 months ago, and a few thousand miles.
fathom socket
I'm in a public space without headphones.
dense shard
Bad plug/coil/wire/or something.
indigo coral
Came back the other night
fathom socket
Okay.
indigo coral
different circumstances though
dense shard
nah
indigo coral
first time it had been sitting for a few days, barely was able to start. battery was fine, but it was super unhappy. Made that noise, then faded after a couple minutes.
in the video
dense shard
Engine mount doesn't make that sound.
indigo coral
this time, I had been driving the car a bunch
then stopped for a few minutes, started it again, drove aobut two miles, and came to a stop at a stop sign
dense shard
Listening to it now. It sounds like some nasty ass lifter tick.
fathom socket
They get loose and sound like a knocking a sound.
indigo coral
the car started bucking and running rough, so i pulled into a parking spot
fathom socket
Okay.
indigo coral
it sounded like rod knocking, and so I turned it off and called my dad
20ish mins later, he came and i turned it back on and it persisted
dense shard
I've had a mount go out on me. It didn't sound anything like that video.
indigo coral
until we revved it just a tiny bit and it quieted down
we carefully drove it home amd it seemed to do okay
dense shard
Pretty sure the RX300 is a dual cam engine.
indigo coral
my grandpa said it oculd be a sticking valve
fathom socket
Yeah.
dense shard
It honestly sounds like a valve.
indigo coral
but he just heard it over the phone lol
dense shard
Failing that bad plug.
fathom socket
Probably a valve issue.
Take it apart and report what you find.
Make sure to ping me.
indigo coral
the one in the back is a PITA lol
fathom socket
And maybe the timing cover.
indigo coral
needs to be replaced regardless though
gasket is leaky a bit, but i did NOT run it out/low on oil
not even close
dense shard
sludge?
fathom socket
Wait, I've never heard of a rear valve cover.
indigo coral
transverse v6
dense shard
It's a tran-yeah
fathom socket
Oh.
fathom socket
Take both covers off.
And look at it.
And see if there's anything that doesn't look correct.
indigo coral
alright
dense shard
Dunno if you'll see anything.
fathom socket
How many miles does it have?
indigo coral
133k
fathom socket
Has the belt been replaced before?
indigo coral
yes
fathom socket
The timing belt. Not the drive belt.
fathom socket
At what mileage?
indigo coral
around 90k, a few years ago
fathom socket
Okay.
indigo coral
lexus says to do it around 90k
fathom socket
You're good for that.
indigo coral
then again at 180 etc
fathom socket
So, tear into it and see if there's anything out of the ordinary.
dense shard
Again at 270k, but the fourth time is at 300k, because the Lexus guys don't have enough fingers between em to count that high.
It's why service costs are so high. They need a lot of people.
indigo coral
hopefully the engine isn't f*cked
figure it should be important to mention
no CEL, no codes, etc
fair bronze
Strange
dense shard
It only really enforces the non-fucked theory.
fair bronze
It does kinda sound like a valve though
indigo coral
yeah, we'll see tomorrow when we dig into it and try and come to some conclusion
cause its gonna be a bit of a mess if I don't have a car to drive when school starts back up
dense shard
It ain't rod knock.
indigo coral
yeah, cause rod knock can't be intermittent
dense shard
Among other things.
indigo coral
like a tensioner wearing out?
fair bronze
Yea
dense shard
That would cause knocking?
fair bronze
Rattling
indigo coral
it was almost exactly 6 months in between the two occurrences
dense shard
That would throw a code as well I imagine.
indigo coral
so I doubt its a tensioner
dense shard
We're talking about the accessories belt, right?
fair bronze
Not necessarily
indigo coral
in between those times it ran fine
dense shard
He'd lose alternator and water pump likely. That would throw a code.
And I imagine lots of belt squeal.
indigo coral
yeah electrics have been fine aside from when my idiot brother left the door cracked open and the door light stayed on and killed the battery lol
fair bronze
Just the tensioner going bad wouldn't mean anything would stop working though
It could just be a bearing on a tensioner for example
It would still work but make a rattling noise like that
dense shard
oh, so the tensioner is still doing it's job, just not quite spinning like it should.
fair bronze
Exactly
dense shard
That's a theory. And you could 100% place that noise.
fair bronze
Mhm
indigo coral
can't see the timing belt without taking a whole bunch of stuff off
dense shard
nah, you can listen for it.
indigo coral
ill add that to the list of things to check tomorrow
fair bronze
Hopefully it won't be too bad for you
dense shard
A valve tick vs. tensioner will be obvious where it's coming from.
indigo coral
I'll get a video of it running tomorrow if its not making the big noise
dense shard
Put your ear close to it.
indigo coral
its always ticked a bit, but thats fuel injectors firing or something according to lexus forums
fair bronze
If it doesn't misfire it can't be a valve issue
dense shard
oh boy weather is getting fucky.
indigo coral
https://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums/topic/17621-rx300-ticking/
Regarding the normal, quiet ticking
indigo coral
valve covers need to come off anyways, so we can take a look underneath
fair bronze
Engine still seems to run smoothly though
indigo coral
usually it does
wasn't running smoothly at the stop sign though lol
RPMs were all over the place, car shaking and bucking etc.
until I was actually stopped I thought it was just my warped rotors
lol
fair bronze
Maybe it's just haunted
indigo coral
lol
fair bronze
Now I'm not too sure about the tensioner theory either
Can't really hear where the sound is coming from
indigo coral
the more recent time it sounded like it was coming from the bottom left/center of the engine
but sound bounces around so idk
fair bronze
In this post the tensioner was at fault indeed
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rx-1st-gen-1999-2003/589050-loud-engine-knock.html
dense shard
Could be improperly installed.
fair bronze
Not impossible
indigo coral
we'll take a look
indigo coral
Took our scan tool out and scanned it, saw nothing. Let it idle for a bit, nothing out of the ordinary. So I took it for a 10 mile drive, starting out careful and it was fine so I got into it and nothing seemed amiss
wtf car
worked fine, power seemed typical (that is to say, slow as hell)
normal temple
Cursed
indigo coral
sure seems like it
only issues i noted was a bit of burning oil (from vcg we think, not huge deal, planned to fix soon), and my leaky exhaust flex pipe
which both are known entities/problems
normal temple
indigo coral
lmaooo
civic girder
Lmao
Speaking of BP, I was filling up the car there, and then we lost powe
Power*
normal temple
civic girder
Doo my eyes spy an FC
normal temple
lmao
civic girder
It still bothers me that Retro reviews recommended the 944 over the GSL-SE
even though the GSL-SE was actually faster in a straight line
and was like $10k cheaper and only like 1 second slower on the track
normal temple
lmao
dense shard
And far more durable, reliable, cheaper, and easier to repair.
Remember the 944 had a rear transaxle with a torque tube. Wanna replace the clutch. lol get a new car.
dense shard
It is, but you have to drop half the drive train out iirc.
indigo coral
isn't that how every car is? Trans has to come out?
dense shard
And the torque tube which runs the length of the car.
indigo coral
I assume that's not at the bottom but like mixed in with a lot of shit?
civic girder
the trans isn't "half the drive train"
dense shard
Transmission AND torque tube
The big metal tube connecting the engine to the transmission.
civic girder
It's also hilarious to see someone say that the Porsche is more reliable than the RX-7
civic girder
jesus fuck
indigo coral
oh yikes
civic girder
and the 944 is front engine too, wtf
civic girder
oh god why
dense shard
Great weight distribution, but frankly... the 944 was never fast enough to need 50/50 balance.
civic girder
transaxle sounds like more pain than its worth
dense shard
It's an exotic feature for exotic cars.
The 944 was the everyman's' exotic, but with the pains associated with exotics.
civic girder
944 was never fast enough to need 50/50
Yea, you know you're slow when a bone stock RX-7 FB is faster in a straight line
dense shard
The 944 was tragically slow even in the 80s.
It needed two iterations of a turbo engine to make it competitive.
civic girder
The 944 was probably slower on the track too, they were just paid to say it was faster than the RX-7
indigo coral
I've stopped driving my car in normal mode 👀
It's so reluctant to shift it's a bit dangerous
dense shard
Or the RX-7 had bad seals and was running bad.
civic girder
maybe, lmao
dense shard
Or maybe the 944 had a tune.
civic girder
it blew out the apex seals at the end of the drag race 😂
dense shard
Or maybe the driver got lucky. Frankly 1 second either way for amateurs is nothing.
civic girder
you're still gonna recommend people buy the more expensive car because it was 1 sec faster on the track?
like, bruh
indigo coral
I was going up hill today and literally nearly pushing the pedal to the floor and nope. no 2nd gear for me.
As soon as i flipped the switch to power mode, it went right in and was fine
civic girder
for 1 sec difference, I'd rather buy the cheaper car and use the money I save to make it faster than the more expensive car
indigo coral
so yeah screw normal mode
dense shard
For 10 grand you can buy a Miata and go faster that way. lol
indigo coral
lol
dense shard
🤔 no seriously... You have an RX-7 Cars and Coffee machine, and a track day Miata.
civic girder
There's someone around here with a 944. I've seen it a couple times
dense shard
You'll probably still save on upkeep.
civic girder
Yea.
dense shard
lol
civic girder
If I was going to get a track car, it would be something pathetically cheap
probably not even a Miata, tbh
something so cheap that if it got a dent I could just say "fuck it, time to get a new car"
dense shard
Then again I don't think anyone who listens to funky town would even consider a 944...
indigo coral
here's an unpopular opinion, i find the NA miata to be heinously ugly
civic girder
lmao
civic girder
I think the 944 looks ok, but like, everything else is atrociously bad
dense shard
I much prefer the NB for styling.
indigo coral
agreed
dense shard
Still cute, but much more mature.
indigo coral
it looks a bit more... finished
NA looks like they were rushed to get something out
civic girder
I like all the Miatas. NA and ND are my favs, NA because pop up bias, ND because I think it pulls off the modern aggression styling
NB and NC are good too ofc
NC def the ugliest tho
Ironically tho, I've never driven an NA or ND
but I've drive both NB and NC
dense shard
NA is fun.
civic girder
Miatas are hella fun to drive, but are super tiny
civic girder
I didn't say the NC was ugly, just the worst looking of all the Miatas
dense shard
NC stands for Notoriously Chungus.
normal temple
fuck
indigo coral
Lol
civic girder
Like, if I were to get a Miata, I'd probably get an NC just because they're the biggest
indigo coral
if I was presented with a Genesis G70 and a Model 3 dual motor for the same price idk what I'd pick.............
civic girder
I can barely drive an NB because the pedals are too close together
normal temple
I know what you should pick
civic girder
My RX-7 because it combines smol car with big comfy interior
dense shard
I'd get the NB. I just happen to like the styling the most.
normal temple
A Toyota Corolla
civic girder
I'd race one, ngl
dense shard
Already got a Corolla.
indigo coral
the new corolla is actually cool
civic girder
they're cheap af and you can do a lot with them
indigo coral
wish it had way more power though
dense shard
nah, 170 is plenty.
indigo coral
its 12 seconds to 60 isnt it?
dense shard
Makes as much power as a Corvette in 1984.
normal temple
What's power
dense shard
7ish seconds to 60 for the 2.0.
indigo coral
o
normal temple
cries in lack of torque
indigo coral
that's not too terrible
dense shard
Closer to 10 with the last gen.
civic girder
I have two 100 hp cars, anything more than 130hp is a lot for me
indigo coral
I have 220 but I bet your prius is quicker in practice
dense shard
The 'rolla is an upgrade from the 60 I had.
normal temple
I drove a 550 hp M4 🤔
civic girder
even the RX-7 is faster, despite less torque and power
indigo coral
when the car was brand new, if my car was absolutely floored, and actually cooperating, it could hit 8.8s
civic girder
the main difference is in the drivetrain
indigo coral
to 60
civic girder
the Prius has the most limiting drivetrain of all time
indigo coral
but 20 years later, some horses have escaped and flooring it makes it not work well
so
I bet the prius is just as quick
if not quicker
civic girder
Floor it, and it takes a solid two seconds for the engine to rev
normal temple
Neutral drop it
indigo coral
if I just cane it from a stop, it doesn't seem to engage properly
if I start out then give it more, it works fine.
civic girder
if you floor the Prius in neutral it only revs to like 2k rpm and stays there
normal temple
wow
civic girder
it hates revving in neutral
indigo coral
wow really?
civic girder
yea
normal temple
boring
indigo coral
weird
civic girder
the computer limits it
indigo coral
i found out the 99 RX has a higher redline than any of the others
which i found weird
normal temple
https://youtu.be/kj-PwIjOlSE neutral drop
indigo coral
though it always shifts before 6k, even near floored
lol
which is fine
I almost had it all the way down today, and it only made it to 5300 rpm
civic girder
The Prius engine can rev to like 6k, but the computer limits it to like 5k
indigo coral
yeah thats how mine does
civic girder
If you floor it, the CVT will hold the Prius at 5k
dense shard
But it works.
normal temple
Tell that to Nissan
civic girder
LMAO
dense shard
Right after I tell Honda about reliable manual and automatics.
And Ford about their slushbox.
civic girder
I asked my friend who works at a dealership how often they get someone coming in for CVT replacements in their Nissan.
He said: "I don't work in the repair shop, but I can tell you I see one on the shipping invoices every now and then"
indigo coral
I'd take a cvt over my 4spd slushbox
civic girder
Toyota hybrids with CVTs are pretty good. They are unfun cars, but hella reliable and get great economy
dense shard
Remember the early 2000s Hondas had glass transmissions as well.
indigo coral
if I'm flooring it on a hill, I want the car to fucking shift. I don't want to go flipping switches to change trans profiles and have it slam into second.
dense shard
I'm not gonna judge Nissan anymore harshly than I judge Honda.
normal temple
WRX 5 speeds blowup at stock power
civic girder
like, even when I rear ended an SUV and fucked the Prius' radiator, it wasn't leaking and I still made it the 45 minute drive home
dense shard
Honda 6 speed manuals had a bum 3rd gear synchro out the factory.
indigo coral
thats why it was fun driving my mom's explorer, a decent 6 speed and 365hp makes for decent performance
normal temple
Who needs synchros
civic girder
^
normal temple
Double clutch that shit in
civic girder
double clutch is fun
dense shard
Problem is the rest of the transmission would get fucked along with it.
civic girder
I've driven a car without synchros before
dense shard
And Honda refused to act on it for 5-6 years.
normal temple
Eh, you win some, you lose some
dense shard
This wasn't an issue fixed until the late 00s.
indigo coral
not sure the actual model designation, but both cars have a 6 speed
its actually pretty damn good
civic girder
(he has the hybrid)
indigo coral
not a PDK or 8HP, but decent
normal temple
I have a 4 speed, do I win
indigo coral
same
civic girder
I have a CVT and a 5 speed
dense shard
Honestly... safest bet remains manual.
normal temple
I use race mode all the time
civic girder
it's hard to fuck up a manual unless you try
dense shard
It's hard to fuck up the simplicity of a classic manual transmission.
indigo coral
I wish the Giulia wasn't so horribly unreliable
civic girder
manual swap it
normal temple
My dad looks at me weird when I shift from 5th to R(ace)
dense shard
Then again modern transmissions are by and large pretty great.
civic girder
DCTs are unreliable as fuck
indigo coral
I love the shift paddles on the Giulia