And it's not just seeing down the road.
#cars
indigo coral
I mean having amazing visibility is awesome xD
fair bronze
Indirectly people do care about weight because it has effect on everything related to how a car drives
dense shard
Most people don't is the thing.
It goes enough, it turns enough, and they got a great deal on it.
stoic ledge
^^ ah yes forget that, worsened handling
indigo coral
It's not that much worse tho
dense shard
No one I know drives with gusto.
indigo coral
Compared to sedans
dense shard
They want comfort and features.
fair bronze
Amazing how you know what everyone wants
normal temple
Mmmmm, yeeting my car through corners is always a fun time
stoic ledge
They want comfort and features.
Because you can't get that in hatchbacks/sedans/xD
dense shard
you can
indigo coral
Some crossovers are better handling than sedans
dense shard
And those sales are falling.
indigo coral
Stelvio handles better than the Giulia from what I've read
dense shard
Camry, Accord, Altima are all being outsold by their crossover over counter parts.
Cause at the end of the day. 34mpg is good enough. Gas is cheap. They can take the hit.
indigo coral
Tbh if the upcoming GV70 looks as good as the renders, I'd get that over the sedan
dense shard
They're probably upgrading from a Tahoe anyway. So they're already getting a huge boost in fuel economy and handling.
stoic ledge
Stelvio handles better than the Giulia from what I've read
X doubt it's better, but almost as good sure. That's also one of the few
indigo coral
The sedan is impractial for daily use
stoic ledge
Cause at the end of the day. 34mpg is good enough. Gas is cheap. They can take the hit.
Didn't we have a discussion the other day in which US fuel was expensive?
indigo coral
Genesis G70 that is
dense shard
US fuel is expensive?
fair bronze
These discussions lmao
stoic ledge
The sedan is impractial for daily use
That's why you get a wagon 😉
indigo coral
no wagon of the g70
stoic ledge
US fuel is expensive?
Idk some people said that
Don't blame me
dense shard
4 dollars a gallon at best?
indigo coral
it's expensive when you get 16-18mpg l
dense shard
I'm paying half that to gas up my car.
indigo coral
Lol
dense shard
So don't buy a Tahoe or F250.
normal temple
C o u p e p r a c t i c a l i t y
dense shard
And to think Falcon.
That your parents can get a modern crossover, and it'll do vastly better in terms of gas.
indigo coral
modern
dense shard
You are upgrading regardless from previously.
indigo coral
nah
dense shard
Great, I love being drip fed context.
So it's a performance model.
The base V6 isn't much better in terms of fuel economy.
stoic ledge
Taurus is nice 👀
normal temple
They fast
indigo coral
idk what specs the base v6 has
dense shard
It's... blah.
It's smaller than pervious generations.
Less practical.
And less usable.
stoic ledge
I have no idea how big the previous ones were xD
Probably bigger than the Fusion, which is the biggest sedan we can get here
stoic ledge
Still, looks nice. And the EcoBoost is 👌
normal temple
They are sooooo fast
dense shard
Sure, but at this point the Taurus is just... oooolllddddd.
It's a crypt keeper in terms of everything.
stoic ledge
But are thay faster than... A 1.0 EcoBoost Fusion 👀
dense shard
Next year it turns 8.
dense shard
The SHO was good when it was introduced.
fair bronze
It does look cool
stoic ledge
Ecoboost Fusions are FAST
But a 1.0 EcoBoost? 😛
dense shard
very
All modern cars can get you into trouble.
America just has a weird complex about not having enough.
stoic ledge
Sure mine can get me in trouble too, but is just takes long to get there xD
dense shard
if it can't do 0-60 in 5 seconds it's slow.
fair bronze
Okay Doug
stoic ledge
Under 3.5s eh, otherwise just get a Tesla am I right
fair bronze
It makes no sense
dense shard
oh my Telsa can do 0-120 in 5 seconds flat
gg mate
You can break the law in under 3 seconds.
stoic ledge
Continues to accelerate to 60mph in 14 seconds
normal temple
@stoic ledge hence the /s 😂
dense shard
but I need it to get up to speed on the highway
If people knew how to drive, you wouldn't need to battle royale your way to work everyday.
stoic ledge
^ even I can get my EcoTec 1.2 up to speed before merging on the highway
Not that difficult
fair bronze
Even a smart can do that
normal temple
My 0-60 is eventually
stoic ledge
Well it gets there, no problem
fair bronze
It's nice to have a decently powerful engine but too much is just unnecessary
normal temple
I have 130whp of pure fury
fair bronze
Rawr
dense shard
130 is plenty.
normal temple
Have to downshift two gears to pass people YEET
stoic ledge
Only sh*t is when there are people who don't dare to touch the accelerator in front of you, and then you have to merge. Then, you notice the lack in power
normal temple
lmaoooo
stoic ledge
But yeah if I can overtake the car in front of me before merging with 83hp, you're doing something wrong
fair bronze
At least we have decent on-ramps here
stoic ledge
Yes 
fair bronze
Enough space to get up to speed
normal temple
https://youtu.be/Q0tQWr-_4LI I can pass many people with my VW
stoic ledge
Unlike Germany
fair bronze
I still don't get why Germany can't make decent ramps
stoic ledge
Yeah i still don't know why they are so short
stoic ledge
My mom: Mk WhY dO yOu ReV iT sO hIgH while merging in Germany
But yeah, 4k rpm is also "revving it high" according to my mom
fair bronze
lol thanks mom
stoic ledge
Just Supercharge everything
normal temple
stoic ledge
Just remove the silencer (:
fair bronze
VR6 sounds nice
normal temple
Its pretty loud outside
viral matrix
But yeah, 4k rpm is also "revving it high" according to my mom
Reving mine to 3k is apparently revving it high
normal temple
Revving mine over idle is high
viral matrix
true
normal temple
That VR6 has gapped multiple GT86/FRS/BRZs
Their reaction is funny when a lowly Jetta gaps them
stoic ledge
I like gapping people with my parents minivan Fun guaranteed xD
normal temple
LOL
fair bronze
The Meriva?
normal temple
Issa very fun time
fair bronze
TURBO
stoic ledge
Meriva TURBOOOOO yes
viral matrix
fair bronze
Love how Opel puts TURBO on their cars
stoic ledge
Tuned to 170hp, it's faster than most cars on the Dutch roads xD
Yes the TURBOOOO badge is awesome
Or the newer turbo diesels, TURBO D in massive font on the back. Awesome
fair bronze
They actually have
stoic ledge
They do of the Focus. Just called ST
fair bronze
Previous Focus
normal temple
Wew
stoic ledge
Current Focus too
fair bronze
They do?
stoic ledge
Si senor
fair bronze
I don't like the look of the new Focus so I don't know as much of that one lol
stoic ledge
The back is odd imho
normal temple
Wew
fair bronze
Is that a Mondeo V6?
stoic ledge
2.5 V6 170
fair bronze
Ah so that's why it sounds so nice
viral matrix
I've liked it quite a lot
viral matrix
This is mk3
indigo coral
Mondeo = fusion ye?
dense shard
Well Contour in the US.
viral matrix
5 speed manual
fair bronze
It's a nice regular car
stoic ledge
For some reason, rust bucket Opel's don't rust anymore
stoic ledge
Volvo T5 engine
viral matrix
Lovely inline 5
indigo coral
huh the mk3 mondeo looks like a focus
fair bronze
Focus ST MK2
viral matrix
With the 2.5
indigo coral
Same w/ mk4
fair bronze
In orange of course
viral matrix
stoic ledge
Mondeo is quite noticably larger than a Focus
viral matrix
Yea
stoic ledge
Also: don't know what Focus the Mk4 reassembles 🤔
fair bronze
Woohoo
fair bronze
Ooh nice
viral matrix
I want more noise
stoic ledge
Straight pipe it
viral matrix
An exhaust valve
viral matrix
Way too lazy
Throwback to our 100€ chrysler grand voyager
Google photos made a movie about it
Dat radiator cap though
stoic ledge
Oof lol
carmine summit
did someone say VR6
my friend has a 24v GTI with a pretty big straightpipe, it's really loud
at Berlin Klassik last year in the parking lot a pretty loud MK3 VR6 revved, then he started his car and it basically made the MK3 sound like a kitten
I can't wait for Berlin Klassik next year
civic girder
tfw your V8 fan boy friend keeps telling you to either supercharge your rotary or engine swap it
and tfw he tells you to do that because of torque to make it slide, and then tfw you tell him you don't care about sliding it and like the way it is now
normal temple
S u p e r c h a r g e r o t a r y
civic girder
I've heard that it's not a very good idea.
Takes too much power to do anything, and that's something a rotary doesn't have
fair bronze
Just keep it as original as it is (except for that rear LSD/disc brake swap)
normal temple
Nah, 6 rotors
flint sable
M3 or M5 🤔
dense shard
What generation
civic girder
Yea. I like the rotary too much to commit heresy or go in debt to get a rotary prepped for a supercharger and buy the supercharger itself
flint sable
@dense shard 2010 M3 2013 M5
The M3 is the hard top convertible with the menial
Manual
indigo coral
e92 m3 best looking m3 by far
have heard bad things about the actual driving experience of it thuogh
dense shard
E46 was my favorite.
fair bronze
Yeah and the M5 is just a big heavy sedan
dense shard
oh wait
indigo coral
fast sedans are cool though
dense shard
The 2013 was the F10.
fair bronze
It's cool and all but you'd really have to want one
indigo coral
I'd get a Model S if it wasn't so hilariously outdated
dense shard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwm2WNitUc @flint sable
fair bronze
But where's the fun in that
dense shard
Savage Geese wasn't very kind to it.
indigo coral
he's the modern scotty kilmer though
dense shard
What, SG?
fair bronze
Blegh
flint sable
I think the m5 has 12k mile warranty
fair bronze
I don't follow savagegeese but I hate Scotty
flint sable
Alright
flint sable
That 200 more horsepower is alluring tho 
fair bronze
It weighs more though
dense shard
No one liked the F10.
It was a step down from the V10.
It was the fatter, duller, faster porker.
fair bronze
Do you really want a convertible M3?
dense shard
I mean if you are willing to deal with the extra weight... I see no reason not to.
Sure it's a bit of a dentist's car, but it's a manual.
So no weird DCT/SMG quirks.
fair bronze
Not just weight but way less stiffness
dense shard
And I doubt anyone here is a track guru.
So even with the convertible penalty, it should be plenty fun.
fair bronze
But then he could just get a 335i
dense shard
I rode in a friend's E36 M3 soft top. It was fast, and... amusing.
Also true. 335i would be nice, fast, and cheap(er.)
dense shard
The Germans are showing the world first hand why NA is more durable as far as cars go.
Oh I agree.
But if I had to choose between a naturally aspirated BWM and a turbo BMW... I'm leaning towards the one without forced induction.
Almost exclusively on the angle of cost of upkeep in the long run. Those turbo engines put out incredible heat.
fair bronze
Depends on which model
dense shard
Something the Germans claim to have under control, but I have my doubts.
Especially over the life of the car.
The hotter the model, the more heat.
fair bronze
Mhm
dense shard
But the question here is between an E92 M3 and a F10 M5.
I'm leaning towards the M3. That V8 was apparently a gem. And it was among the last of the M-cars designed with a manual in mind.
fair bronze
I have to agree with you on that one
Personally I'd try to find a coupe though
Even though convertibles are nice in sunny weather
dense shard
oh yes, very much yes.
If finding a hardtop coupe/sedan is at all possible.
I'd totally recommend that.
fair bronze
Of course
dense shard
Then again I'd say skip the Germans and get yourself a nice Toyota. 😂
dense shard
And I got a dozen conflicting points when skipping through em.
lol
okay big brain time
If you can find an Accord V6 in manual. That is worth a shot.
fair bronze
oof
dense shard
BMW will be easier, I know.
fair bronze
Sedan or coupe?
dense shard
either
Sedan would be much older. 07-08 were the only years it happened.
Before then is super rare, and a crap shoot considering the 6 speeds were crap.
fair bronze
I know little about the US Accord, we got a different model
dense shard
ah, I see.
fair bronze
We didn't even get them for a long time
dense shard
Only 2 years had a manual option on the V6 sedan.
fair bronze
Do we even get them now?
dense shard
What country?
fair bronze
The Accord sold terribly here though, so that's why
indigo coral
He is a lot like scotty kilmer in the sense that he's the "REEEE anything new is bad" type, and the type that always endlessly bitches about the "modern trends"
fair bronze
He basically recommends anyone to buy an old Toyota Celica like he did lol
Everything else is bad in some way
Sure thing man
fair bronze
I mean I'd love to have one but most of them were either modified to shit or they've rusted away
dense shard
His complaints make sense.
fair bronze
They made sense in 1987
dense shard
I'm talking about SG not Scotty.
dense shard
I mean sure some of it is old man screaming at cars.
But the compact cars as CUV is a great point.
So are audio systems. There's always that question. Are you actually getting your money's worth on the upgraded audio set ups?
flint sable
dad had like a 2006 tacoma TRD
was the shittiest sound system
at 100 volume we could hardly hear it
thankfully we have a raptor now that we rarley turn past 16 volume
charred ruin
Yeah fords volume control is awful to me its either too loud or too quiet theres no happy medium
indigo coral
Same in our explorer, its quiet up until 3rd big bar then it gets loud fast
desert glen
indigo coral
max volume is just too damn loud for me
normal temple
https://youtu.be/XjGPhu4cdCM my sub doesn't wub that much
https://youtu.be/W2h5PQaHQmU this is at 7 on my volume hue
pastel ridge
warm sparrow
What year?
civic girder
tranny fluid is swapped 👌
shifts a lot better
still feels kinda chunky, but that'd be my leaky and fucked clutch master/slave
night current
I need to replace my headlight fluids... 
civic girder
lmao
unreal terrace
@night current don't forget the winter air and the piston return springs
civic girder
what about the exhaust oil?
night current
Oh yeah, I'm about due for all of those.
normal temple
Blinker fluid bro
charred ruin
And was new muffler belt
Remember to put sandpaper under your wipers to make ice scraping a breeze
And to make cheap winter tires puf screws about 2 in deep in all your tires
indigo coral
yup
fathom socket
civic girder
It works, but it just doesn't quite feel right, if you know what I mean
And the clutch pedal likes to act goofy. You have to yeet the pedal down hard to even have a chance of engaging reverse
And then you're still likely to grind it a bit because the clutch cyls act up
indigo coral
Rip
bitter compass
man while looking at the vw golf ads i must say golf 7 looked better than 8 🤔
fair bronze
But they all look the same
fair bronze
Golf isn't bad, it's just boring
stoic ledge
Golf fun to drive? It's the most bland car I've ever driven
But yes, the Mk8 is uglier
That front....
fair bronze
Same
bitter compass
but its just seats too low, and the middle armrest and everything is too high for me
indigo coral
(in blue of course)
fair bronze
Smurf blue ftw
indigo coral
yeeee
stoic ledge
Or an i30 N
indigo coral
wot
fair bronze
The i30 N is overpriced tbh
stoic ledge
Not as extreme as an RS but still fun
indigo coral
i30 is just a veloster isnt it?
indigo coral
o
stoic ledge
It's a better looking, little fancier interior, regular 5 door Hyundai
indigo coral
I don't mind the look of the veloster tbh
3 doors weird as hell
but not too ugly imo
fair bronze
fair bronze
Why?
stoic ledge
Aztek
fair bronze
I'd take the Batavus
indigo coral
at least the aztek is kind of like... cool ugly
bitter compass
fiat wants to know your location
indigo coral
LS V8 Aztek
fair bronze
Since when is the Aztek cool?
stoic ledge
It is
indigo coral
honestly if I could collect weird cars an aztek would certainly be in it
its not cool but its more cool than shitty old buick
fair bronze
Well yes
stoic ledge
I mean, you could it with with a tent. And a drink cooler as center console.
bitter compass
🤔
indigo coral
ye
theres someone in my town with a really nicely kept aztek
white, it looks brand new
stoic ledge
Nice
indigo coral
paints not even scratched or anything
bitter compass
who needs a tent when you can buy a vw carlifornia orbully
indigo coral
(i think they even coated it or something cause its never dirty)
bitter compass
wait
indigo coral
there's also someone with a first year Toyota echo that is in literally perfect condition
thuogh thats a funny car
I see a surprising number of them that are in fairly decent condition
compared to civics/accords/etc that a lot of the similar year ones are ratty as hell
fair bronze
Yes
indigo coral
think so
fair bronze
Echo is a weird looking Yaris
indigo coral
its one of those weird squished sedans
like the Fiesta sedan, some of the Suzukis and nissans
stoic ledge
Ah yes it's a squished Yaris sedan
bitter compass
wait theres a fiesta sedan?
indigo coral
@dense shard Saw the new Corolla Sedan today, the Hatch looks much nicer
stoic ledge
Yes
indigo coral
yes
indigo coral
they tried to translate the design language from the Fusion onto a car which it does NOT belong
stoic ledge
indigo coral
looks even worse in white
bitter compass
hell thats an awful looking rear
stoic ledge
(it's an import to Europe hence the fog light)
indigo coral
thats why everyone buys the hatch xD
the hatch looks nice, though its still got the powershit transmission
indigo coral
i dont like tiny cars
so i wouldn't get any of them
xD
smallest I'd go is Focus RS but only cause its a hoot to drive
stoic ledge
drives of in a Corsa
bitter compass
thehe calling a fiesta tiny
bitter compass
me looking at my 5 year old up 🤔
indigo coral
we don't get the up here
I drive a '99 Lexus RX and it has a case of dwarfism compared to most SUVs here
its smaller than the current gen Lexus NX
marginally larger than the UX
much smaller than the current RX
stoic ledge
A Fiesta barely fits in a parking spot at the nearest mall xD
fair bronze
Welcome to the Netherlands
indigo coral
dense shard
Fiesta was always a bit awkward imo.
indigo coral
that'd need like 8 parking spots
fair bronze
You're just not used to it
dense shard
Sedan was a US/China specific model.
fair bronze
Your Corolla is a normal sized car here
bitter compass
id say welcome to munich when a smart doesn't fit in a parking spot, but its more incompetence than parking spots
indigo coral
i love costco's parking spots
my car fits with deadass a meter on each side
quite seriously
fair bronze
So it fits one average Costco visitor
fair bronze
I have no clue lol
charred ruin
I usually have to park down in the boonies because my truck is so long
fair bronze
Never been to the US
charred ruin
Longbox problems
stoic ledge
^^ same
indigo coral
costco you have to pay to get into and thus attracts a different audience... if that's even moderately politically correct xD
fair bronze
Really?
stoic ledge
Lol pay to get in to
indigo coral
ye
stoic ledge
Etf
charred ruin
indigo coral
our memership is 120$ a year
stoic ledge
Wtf*
bitter compass
wait the us also doesn't get any of the big vw cars, or do they?
fair bronze
They have their own
bitter compass
amarok, transporter, caddy
indigo coral
none of those
charred ruin
I wish i had a costco near me so i could buy 100 packs of cliff bars
indigo coral
we have the Tiguan, Atlas, Tauoreg or however thats spelled
indigo coral
but yes mk, its a giant warehouse store that sells big quantities of stuff. 60$ a year for base membership, 120 a year for Executive. you can make your money back just on gas prices, virtually always 30+ cents cheaper per gallon lol
bitter compass
🤔
charred ruin
Id even go for a sams club within 80 miles
stoic ledge
It's still the same van as 15 years ago, same with the Transporter
bitter compass
the caddy got 2 major updates
night current
stoic ledge
Still the same van underneath
night current
Headlight fluid topped up
stoic ledge
Good boi
charred ruin
Im rural im 15 miles frlm a regular gocery store
indigo coral
Oh wow
charred ruin
45 from a walmart
indigo coral
yikers, I'm only about 2 minutes from a grocery store.
charred ruin
83 from a target
indigo coral
Still have land though, its actually a nice locatoin.
charred ruin
300 from a costco
indigo coral
6 acres of land, but close to stuff
charred ruin
But im happy being rural my yard ia like 10 acres
Pand my family owns all the land in a square mile all around me
bitter compass
but why doesn't the us get the amarok i think pickups are doing better over there 🤔
i mean everyone who has work to get done would get an hilux anyways in europe 👀
dense shard
Chicken tax
VW would have to move Amarok production to the US.
Rumors are VW and Ford are working on a pickup truck for the next generation. So we might see a Ranger/Amarok in the US soon.
Not sure what Ford is even doing anymore.
fair bronze
Me neither tbh
charred ruin
On the pickup side theyre in a pissing match with dodge basically upping eachother by 20lbs of torque every year
Theyre dropping car production iirc in favor of picups and suvs
dense shard
VW couldn't be cost competitive in the US thanks to old tariffs.
Wouldn't matter what engine they offer.
As for the pissing match. Ford is winning.
They flat out sell more.
bitter compass
also something does seat even exist in the us?
charred ruin
Ram actually beat them on the low end and on the high end theyre cometitive
charred ruin
Chevy is in the corner drooling on itself
fair bronze
With their JD Power awards lol
indigo coral
@fair bronze power awards
fair bronze
Yes
indigo coral
xD
fair bronze
They pay me, I give them awards
charred ruin
Give them les rewards chevy trucks have been junk since 04
indigo coral
My grandpa bought a diesel 2016 Silverado and its ... bad
fair bronze
Why do you think they keep buying awards
charred ruin
My dad had an 08 and it went to shit in 3 months
And everyone i know who has bought one recently has had issues with their gutless engines
indigo coral
he's had electric issues galore
charred ruin
Not to mention chevy still uses the same junk plastic for a higer pricetag instead of switching to better materials post recession
Oh and def filler under the hood
When dodge doesn't even need def and fords def tank is by the diesel tank
dry fern
Incredible how everyone start making electric suv...
Ford Mustang, Tesla, BMW...
Who’s next
indigo coral
You forgot Audi and Jaguar.
dry fern
Yeah
dense shard
Porsche is up soon I believe.
American SUVs are a traditional market. They don't need to innvoate.
indigo coral
the Taycan suv?
dense shard
And frankly no one aside from Tesla are selling many electrics.
dry fern
Well Tesla only make electric
dense shard
E-Tron and iPace aren't selling well in the US.
dense shard
I've seen an E-Tron finally.
fair bronze
The I-Pace can be seen everywhere here
dry fern
Imagine having an electric car in the us tho... these stuff have batterie life of my iPhone ...
indigo coral
the Teslas are the only ones practical to road-trip in
cause superchargers
all the other ones are still city cars
fair bronze
And somewhat decent range
dry fern
Lemme convert 😂
fair bronze
370*1.6
dense shard
half that if you are towing.
fair bronze
lol
dense shard
Imagine buying a trimotor cybertruck.
dry fern
Wait what ?
dense shard
It'll take twice as long to charge, and you can only tow for 250 miles.
fair bronze
BuT iT HaS 800 MiLeS RaNgE
dense shard
500*
dry fern
Lmao
dense shard
Promised, not actual yet.
fair bronze
Or was it 800 km lol
dense shard
800km probably.
charred ruin
The cyber truck wouldve been better suited as an suv
indigo coral
im not talking towing
dense shard
Not that it'll be sold in Europe in current form.
indigo coral
can't tow with a tesla effectively
fair bronze
Talk about overpromising
indigo coral
@engineeringexplained
dense shard
Tesla doesn't lie about ranges.
indigo coral
no towing and their ranges can be achieved fairly easily
but if you're towing you won't get far
dry fern
I think the more u charge the longer it takes for a Tesla
dense shard
Superchargers aren't meant to be an everyday thing is my understanding.
dry fern
I don’t know why tho
dense shard
Kills battery life.
dry fern
Mhmmm
dense shard
heat buildup would be pretty massive.
indigo coral
afaik that was dispensed with in the Model 3 and the Raven stuff
dense shard
errrr
indigo coral
older packs have it
charred ruin
Ill take my truck where i only lose 60 or so miles off a full tank while towing and it takes me 10 min to fuel
dense shard
Directly dumping current into a battery is not good.
dense shard
Tesla batteries aren't some secret sauce. They're just standard cells with cooling.
indigo coral
im talking the supercharger limitation, the 105kwh to 100 or whatever it was
well they have an unusual chemistry
dense shard
electromagnetic roads
Yeah, let's make solar roadways
That's such a great idea. /s
dense shard
Also if you are gonna make electromag roads... why even have batteries?
indigo coral
or at least big batteries
dense shard
Your car can draw power directly from the roads.
dry fern
Because it would be only for highways
fair bronze
These discussions here lmao
dense shard
Anyway. I'm not paying for that.
dry fern
Could be a thing doe
dense shard
sure, at extreme costs
dry fern
Yeah... 😂
charred ruin
Inb4 the highway breaks and ypur car dies
indigo coral
yeah it'd be crazy expensive
you'd sitll need some sort of battery in it
just not 100+kwh
dense shard
Also wireless charging is super inefficient
indigo coral
otherwise as soon as you get off the road to go home your car shuts off 😂
fair bronze
Same
dense shard
And I like being on the road faster than not.
45 minutes to charge is a bit much.
but bathroom breaks
fair bronze
5 minutes to fill up and off you go
dense shard
I don't have to poop every 250 miles.
indigo coral
I'm ok with a Tesla that has an established charging network, but I understand why lots of people would still hate it (like my dad)
dense shard
It's great they do, but it's not the fastest way to get around.
indigo coral
I'm not saying it is
dense shard
And some stations have been overwhelmed with traffic during holiday seasons.
Imagine being 3rd in line to charge... and each car is gonna take 20-50 minutes to charge.
indigo coral
Depends on how many stations there are
if there's 4 spots you're gonna be there for a while
if there's 16 you'll probably get in fairly quick
charred ruin
My truck i drive all the way across my state pulling a camper and make it 80 miles from home before i need to fill towing both ways because i can go around 600 miles on a tank
dense shard
Stations in California have been overwhelmed is the thing.
indigo coral
but yes, its a big problem
dry fern
Lmao 4 tires in front
fair bronze
Yeehaw
dry fern
What are you cultivating?
fair bronze
Thicc
charred ruin
I hope to god i never run anything over with them theyre 8,000 bucks a piece
stoic ledge
Oof
charred ruin
Theyre good though they float over mud nicely
fair bronze
You think they will fit on my Honda?
jagged coyote
anything will fit a honda if you are brave enough
fair bronze
There is still plenty
Also they're adding ethanol so you're not using as much of it anymore
fair bronze
Dude what
dry fern
Imagine their is no more petroleum in like 5 years and nobody want to tell the truth
indigo coral
wtf lol
dry fern
That we will run out to avoid chaos
fair bronze
What are you smoking
indigo coral
trust me it would be a HELL of a lot more expensive if we had less than 5 years left
fair bronze
lol
dry fern
I’m scared af now
fair bronze
Scared of what
dry fern
No more gas
fair bronze
lmao
fair bronze
Literally no one would benefit from that
indigo coral
if it was going to run out in 5 years it would be insanely expensive
fair bronze
Exactly
indigo coral
not 3 bucks a gallon
dry fern
Hope my children will have some 😢
indigo coral
They will.
fair bronze
Don't scare the children
dry fern
From corn ?
fair bronze
For example
fair bronze
Some cars can run on pure ethanol
dry fern
Oh well
fair bronze
No need to be worried
dry fern
And cars now consume less
fair bronze
They do in Europe anyway
dry fern
It’s crazy how it’s cheap for you
fair bronze
I live in Europe
indigo coral
...what
dry fern
Oh
indigo coral
cars in europe are like 10x more expensive than usa
dry fern
Yeah ikr
fair bronze
Something like that lol
indigo coral
once you factor in gas and taxes and sh*t
dry fern
I’m sick of being stuck in an expansive country
fair bronze
At least we have decent healthcare
dry fern
Yeah true
fair bronze
But that's a whole different story
dry fern
Which country u from ?
fair bronze
Netherlands
fair bronze
To smoke more weed?
dry fern
Lmao I stopped this shit long ago
stoic ledge
^
fair bronze
To me Amsterdam is just expensive housing and offices
dry fern
Ouch never looked that way 😂
stoic ledge
As a Dutchie... I've been to Amsterdam once
fair bronze
Many young people say they want to live in Amsterdam but I don't get it
It's only because it sounds cool I guess
fair bronze
You can live in a broom closet for the price of a modest house
stoic ledge
^ that
dry fern
Daym
fair bronze
But Amsterdam is so cool!
stoic ledge
Even I haven't seen that
fair bronze
We know?
dry fern
Not because ur a virgin
fair bronze
Excuse me
dry fern
Because it’s pot hun to a new whole level
dry fern
A VR p*rn site
House are classed by categories
I was thinking it was jungle but not this was actually good stuff
I mean the houses uh
I didn’t stare girls 😂
wheat hatch
fair bronze
That's me right now
dry fern
Ok im stopping here
Anyway go see it by yourself if u want and you’ll see what I’m talking about
I did boat too tho
fair bronze
Understandable, have a nice day :)
indigo coral
180sx?
indigo coral
i dont know then
dry fern
Sil80
indigo coral
fair bronze
I think it's called James
indigo coral
i failed because i frankly don't give a f*ck about nissans
dry fern
Lord help him ‘-‘
fair bronze
Nah he doesn't need help
fair bronze
Toyota > Nissan
indigo coral
^
fair bronze
Nissan went to shit since they allied with Renault
dry fern
Excuse them they don’t know what they’re talking about
Renault bought them and did Nissan dirty u got the point
But it’s still Nissan
indigo coral
Making trash.
dry fern
How a 350 is a trash
indigo coral
old
dry fern
How silvias are trash
indigo coral
but not old enough to be 'retro'
dry fern
Don’t forget the gtr tho
indigo coral
The GTR is fine, but its not been redesigned since 07
dry fern
Multiple world record and was #1 in front of many brand
indigo coral
was
dry fern
Yeah
fair bronze
The GT-R is the only car that has no Renault influences iirc
indigo coral
think so
fair bronze
That's why it's so good
fair bronze
Vive la France amirite
dry fern
Lmao
dry fern
Well uh
The only good car Renault made was the Mégane R.S and I forgot the other
Oh and the safrane
Peugeot don’t make sport car
stoic ledge
308 GTi?
dry fern
Nobody in France make sport car except Bugatti
fair bronze
PGO?
stoic ledge
Alpine A110 is a French sportscar
dry fern
208 gti...
fair bronze
They can make great cars but the electronics always suck
dry fern
Look like a fucking Daihatsu
indigo coral
wtf LOL
stoic ledge
208 GTi is discontinued
indigo coral
is that colour scheme
fair bronze
What's wrong with Daihatsu?
indigo coral
lollll
stoic ledge
Lol no it doesn't look like a Daihatsu
@indigo coral special limited edition, all other 208 GTi's are just 1 color
dry fern
Focus RS is 😍
dry fern
Odds are climbing tho
fair bronze
Are they?
dry fern
Yeah
fair bronze
I have no idea what you're talking about
fair bronze
Well yes since they don't make them anymore and they're still quite popular
indigo coral
mhm
stoic ledge
Focus RS is bigger faster, 4WD etc etc
stoic ledge
Corsa OPC Nürburgring Edition is nice tho
fair bronze
Yes it is
stoic ledge
211hp isn't bad
stoic ledge
Comparable to a Fiesta ST
fair bronze
stoic ledge
Again: Focus is much bigger
dry fern
Again corsa look à Minecraft grass block
fair bronze
The difference is quite noticable
stoic ledge
Corsa id Fiesta size
dry fern
I mean if I want to spend money on a sport car I would buy a focus rs instead of these ones
indigo coral
Genesis G70 prob handles better than a mustang 
(mustang normal, not gt350r type stuff)
fair bronze
Many cars handle better than a Mustang
stoic ledge
That's like saying "i'd get an S-class instead of a Fusion"
Big difference
fair bronze
Maybe because the size range is different in the US
stoic ledge
Just as figure of speech, but you get my point
indigo coral
more like 3er vs 5er
fair bronze
Our size range goes from tiny to small
stoic ledge
Basically
fair bronze
Exactly lol
indigo coral
in my head, a Focus RS is a tiny car
dry fern
It is actually
fair bronze
Dude
indigo coral
and an Escape or something is medium small, Explorer is medium big, Expedition Max / Suburban / F350 Superduty is big
dry fern
Compared to others
fair bronze
None of those would fit in a parking spot here
indigo coral
at least by my frame of reference
we don't even get the tiny cars
i guess we get the Fit?
which is small
fair bronze
The Fit isn't tiny either though
stoic ledge
Honda Jazz
fair bronze
Jazz ftw
dry fern
In Europe it’s smol roads we will struggle with big cars
indigo coral
Rip
fair bronze
But Dacia!!!!
stoic ledge
No torque converter, single clutch auto
fair bronze
Oh so a robotic manual
indigo coral
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