good job Audi, you've been surpassed by Toyota.
#cars
dense shard
stoic ledge
Vorsprung durch Technik
stoic ledge
Wdym?
dense shard
Idea is dual injection is supposed to help with stuff... including no carbon build up on the valves.
How will this engine fair against say... Honda's 1.5T a decade down the road.
fair bronze
The Honda will always be better
dense shard
how so
fair bronze
Because it's Honda
dense shard
The Civic I test drove had lag.
Honda has a known issue with gas making it's way into the oil.
fair bronze
Never heard of it
fair bronze
On a more serious note, I do trust Honda way more than VW/Audi
dense shard
Forced a recall in China, and a service bulletin in the US with Honda saying there's no issues, but they'll fix it soon.
Well yes.
I too trust Honda over VW.
stoic ledge
Same
dense shard
I trust them over everything short of Toyota or a 60s Chevy small block.
fair bronze
Maybe the engines they sell in the US
dense shard
nah, the old VTEC systems burned oil. It was literally a feature.
I understand Si owners carry spare oil around just in case.
If you are on top of the ball, it's a non-issue.
fair bronze
So it is just like an F1 car basically
dense shard
But it is an extra bit of work you need to do to keep it running.
fair bronze
I get that
dense shard
Frankly it's not the oil dilution issue that annoys me about Honda.
It's their response.
"It's fine, we'll fix it and extend the warranty"
bruh
If it ain't broke, why you fixing it?
fair bronze
I mean it's better than them not doing anything at all
But yes I have heard some stupid shit
dense shard
Their response felt dishonest.
"Oh the China spec engines are totally different from the US market engines."
Tuning, maybe. Hardware, no.
fair bronze
Many manufacturers do that though
dense shard
Automakers will try to build as few engine families as they can get away with.
fair bronze
Unless they can pull off selling an older cheaper version in a country that doesn't care
dense shard
And according to wikipedia... I didn't expect this actually.
fair bronze
Not saying you are wrong though
dry fern
STOP STOP STOP
fair bronze
no u
dense shard
The engines are the same code.
dense shard
Honda bad?
what
They've had issues in the past, sure.
I think we're all in agreement we'd rather have a Civic over a Jetta.
dry fern
Even td hun
fair bronze
Who desires to own a Jetta
dry fern
Today
dry fern
Mazda good go buy Mazda
dense shard
fuck no
fair bronze
VW styling is blah in general, with some exceptions
dry fern
We are going to CHAAAAARGE til we run out of gas
fair bronze
The Arteon looks nice
dense shard
I mean that's not a tall order. lol
dry fern
Wich car ur talking about
dry fern
Tf is that
fair bronze
Big SUV
dense shard
how so?
dry fern
Gas prices are hella low
fair bronze
This again
dense shard
oh yeah, it's nice.
dense shard
I'm happy in my Corolla.
dry fern
Gas is expansive and we don’t have big roads
fair bronze
I would be happy in a Corolla
dense shard
It's a step up from the Suzuki I had. 😂
dry fern
Usa is the perfect country to own big cars
dense shard
It is, too bad I prefer small cars.
dry fern
Really ?
fair bronze
Are you Dutch by any means
dense shard
really really
dry fern
Nop im a stoopid frog eater 😭
fair bronze
Who tf eats frogs
fair bronze
They eat croissants and baguettes
dense shard
Don't diss baguettes.
dry fern
I don’t even know where frogs come from i@never saw one eat some
dense shard
snails then?
dry fern
Yeah snails
fair bronze
Who ever thought "I have a great idea, let's eats snails!"
dense shard
The same guy who looked at a cow and thought, "imma drink dat milk."
fair bronze
Mmmmmm
dry fern
Lmao
fair bronze
Yes I overthink random stuff sometimes
dense shard
Or the guy who took a piece of sliced bread and went, "yes, let's bake this again."
boom toast
fair bronze
boom
dense shard
lol
Over thinking stuff is fun.
To think though
Electric cars were more popular than manuals this year.
dry fern
Yeah car manufacturers are well paid by the country to promote environmental stuff
dense shard
US just doesn't do manuals.
fair bronze
Honestly not every car needs a manual
dense shard
no, but I like the budget option of a manual.
I managed to go XSE because the manual dropped the price right into my budget.
dry fern
I never tried to drive a manual
fair bronze
You haven't lived
dense shard
You aren't missing much.
dry fern
It should be smooth af 😮
dry fern
Really
dense shard
Drove a NA Miata once.
fair bronze
To me anyway
dense shard
That was... interesting.
fair bronze
I drove an ND
dry fern
ND?
dense shard
I'd go NB if I had to buy one with my own money.
Generation.
NA is gen 1
NB is 2
fair bronze
The new one with the RF roof
dense shard
ND is 4th generation.
fair bronze
The NA is mostly loved because of its pop-up headlights and silly face
dense shard
Also the least weight.
fair bronze
Because everything has rusted away
dense shard
I honestly wanted a bit more power. NA isn't as fun in the hills if you are going up them all the time.
NB all the way.
warm sparrow
hey I heared there are some baguettes here ?
fair bronze
Oh no
dry fern
Yis
warm sparrow
in fact i didn't hear anything
dry fern
Dreamcar ? @fair bronze @dense shard
fair bronze
I have way too many
dense shard
my dream car?
dry fern
Yeah
dense shard
uhhhh Lexus LC500.
dry fern
Lemme see
dense shard
That's the next step for me at any rate.
My first dream car is parked in the drive way.
dry fern
I saw one before going work
dry fern
!!!
dense shard
nice
fair bronze
Childhood dream car
dense shard
They're joyfully bad. Buy it, maintain it.
fair bronze
Herbie
dense shard
All joking aside.
It was by far the weirdest car I had ever driven.
It's a very upright seating position, shifter is... not right.
fair bronze
I don't care how much maintenance it needs, I would give it all the maintenance in the world
dense shard
It' like you work through the gears in a diagonal pattern.
I mean you need to maintain it on virtue it's a car with a design from the 50s.
You'll git gud at doing that as well.
fair bronze
I know
dense shard
do it, get it
fair bronze
I will
dry fern
Nice little car tbh
dense shard
I was waiting for you to say I will.
I haven't filled my Sheev gif quota till just now.
fair bronze
It's one of those cars where I don't care that it's slow or drives bad
dense shard
It's fast enough.
fair bronze
It moves
dry fern
It have like 4hp
fair bronze
You just need patience
warm sparrow
Chiron.
dense shard
But it doesn't drive great. lol
fair bronze
Nope and I love it
dry fern
Idk why but the side plate think me of an evo...
dense shard
I see it now.
fair bronze
Trust me, I know everything I should know about them
dense shard
oh yeah <- this me me setting up for a joke
Let me ask you one tiny super specific thing only I know because I googled it and clicked on page 2. <- legally required to mention this is a joke
I'll be sure to bug you if I ever get a beetle. <- potentially a joke, but I'm open to help if I ever get a beetle
fair bronze
dry fern
I hate beetle
fair bronze
But that is a Beetle
dense shard
Almost wish I'd gotten the Corolla in that bright blue.
dry fern
Corolla is the most produced car in the world
fair bronze
Jokes on you
warm sparrow
I saw a Bullit the other day
dense shard
ohhhhh nice
dense shard
The Bullit is the Mustang to have.
dry fern
It’s an European mustang
fair bronze
I saw one drive the other way the other day
dry fern
It not like the us ones
fair bronze
It did
dense shard
yooooo
warm sparrow
it's a french mustang, that is even more surprising because according to what i read there are like 50 bullit in france
dry fern
Wdym
dense shard
That's incredible.
fair bronze
What is wrong with the European Mustang in your opinion
dry fern
All 50 are hp reduced and stupid things according to eu in it that look less cooler than originals one
warm sparrow
no there are not only ecoboost mustangs in europe.
fair bronze
Yeah alright I get that
dense shard
oh yeah, EU localization.
fair bronze
Mostly the daytime running lights
dense shard
Quieter exhaust I imagine as well.
dry fern
I have to learn how to change a clutch
fair bronze
Good luck with that
dense shard
easy, just buy a Tesla.
dry fern
u.u
fair bronze
dry fern
I saw a video of a guy charging a Tesla
warm sparrow
just buy an electric "mustang"
fair bronze
No
warm sparrow
wow so impresive roucky
dense shard
ikr
fair bronze
How To Ruin A Brand 101
dry fern
Lol
dense shard
The Mustang II was initially released without a V8.
fair bronze
It had a straight-4
dense shard
And a V6 for the Shelby.
fair bronze
Madness
dense shard
good stuff
fair bronze
Rotary needs special care though
fair bronze
I mean you would learn a lot about them by owning one
fair bronze
Keep the dream alive
stoic ledge
Rotaries are nice but require maintenance
fair bronze
Though an RX-7 isn't really a daily driver anyway
dense shard
not with that attitude.
fair bronze
Nope
carmine summit
Someday I'm importing a Eunos Cosmo
20B-REW
it's a 4 door 3 rotor twin turbo Mazda
stoic ledge
Oof I've only ever seen one Eunos Comso, love the interior
The interior was so much ahead of it's time
Iirc, the center screen was actually a CRT
And you could watch TV on it
https://youtu.be/3qPAHPYthBU
1990: touch screen CRT in a car
dense shard
oh man yeah... I think GM did it as well.
I wanna say Mazda's implementation looks better
civic girder
Mazda's implementation of a lot of things is better
eager kite
Twitter
civic girder
I don't really care about supercars anymore
grew out of the phase and now like my slow af cars
vital glen
Wow, so funny
So very funny
@eager kite Thanks boomer for that wonderfully {banned word} video
eager kite
Wow why use the n word here
eager kite
Bro just calling someone a boomer is so 2018
lyric tulip
calm down
eager kite
You gotta hit em with the ok boomer
Now that's an insult
@lyric tulip we're fine right now, wish you were here like 5 hours ago tho
lyric tulip
Well, what happened 5 hours ago that needed me? Breaking rules is breaking rules, dont matter if you broke them a year ago or 5 hours ago
Also, ever heard of the wonderful ping button?
vital glen
No
Like I've never heard any other statistic besides 0-60 because that's all that matters
To some
eager kite
@lyric tulip oh just people insulting each other
@vital glen then you must not follow many Tesla supporters
vital glen
Oh man and the 1/4 mile time
eager kite
Also, good response to Doug's video on the cybertruck: https://youtu.be/lWM0w-BADfA
vital glen
Why are you obsessed with Tesla? @eager kite
eager kite
I don't think I would say I'm obsessed with Tesla
I've talked about plenty of other cars and manufacturers on here
I'm talking about it more rn because they just released a new product, and that's generally what happens when new products are unveiled
@indigo coral wtf is that pepe emoji lmao
dense shard
Doug isn't wrong.
Concerns about range under load is a serious issue.
And before anyone tries to jump my ass on ICE.
Yes. Ford, GM, and FCA should release mpg ratings for loaded trucks so owners can know what to expect.
And doug didn't even bring this up, but are the towing ratings SAE or not.
eager kite
The range shouldn't drop by too much due to payload
What hurts range is towing things that are not aerodynamic
"Aero" trailers are very not aerodynamic
I won't be supprised if Tesla makes a trailer in the future that actually isn't brick shaped
civic girder
I also wouldn't be surprised if the trailer had a battery pack that hooks into the truck itself. Might make it too expensive, but it would be quite a neat thing
eager kite
^
well the way battery prices are falling these days, it wouldn't be very expensive at all in 3 or 4 years to do
jagged coyote
ew what are those rims
unreal terrace
Apparently Pontiac Bonneville NOS hubcaps
dry fern
A fiat punto 😂
stoic ledge
fathom socket
Cars in Germany or something like that
dense shard
Relativity fly strikes again
civic girder
finally got around to a legit oil change on the Mazda
now I just need to complete the maintenance with changing the trans and diff fluid, replacing the leaky clutch master, and putting my new drums and shoes on the rear brakes
dense shard
oh man... I hate drum brakes.
fair bronze
🥁
night current
Rx7 ❤
indigo coral
thankfully I've got 4wheel discs. Would prob be very unsafe to have drums in my porker of a car
flint sable
eager kite
civic girder
I want to convert to disc, but I need money and be lucky enough to find the rear end out of a higher trim level of my car.
The GSL and GSL-SE models came with LSDs and rear disc brakes; but I have a GS, which has rear drums and an open diff
dense shard
disc brakes alone are worth it imo
dense shard
Electric Lincoln SUV to use Rivian technology, report says
Ah, so that's where the investment came in.
dry fern
He really sent a cyber truck to them ?!
eager kite
Nah ford backed out of it
carmine summit
@civic girder just buy a rusty GSL for $500 and have a whole bunch of spare parts.
blazing osprey
This tow is bloody pointless
That f150 is not the 4wd raptor
Just some marketing gimmicks
dense shard
That's the point.
fathom socket
I hope these tires won't be to expensive when they need new ones
Right now it's okay
It's a Hyundai Genesis 2011 2.0T
dense shard
Probably not the cheapest.
fathom socket
Yeah
Not gonna lie that I was going 100mph on the highway I didn't feel anything lol
Just for a few times then no more
dense shard
I'm still taking it easy with my car.
fathom socket
Because I was being stupid
Yeah
I treat my Hyundai Tucson 2005 Nicely as my daily driver
It has 430k miles
dense shard
I recently hit 3000 on my 'rolla.
fathom socket
I haven't full throttle on the Hyundai Genesis yet just half
Sweet
Just happy to have my familys car as my daily driver and the Genesis for me and my mom to drive during weekends
And my next door neighbor is a police officer that makes me feel safe for the sports car outside at night
indigo coral
I've gotten into it a few times on my rx, which probably is terrible for it but meh
eager kite
@blazing osprey wouldn't matter even if it was a raptor, would still lose.
fair bronze
Of course it would because an electric motor instantly has full torque available
fair bronze
Is that a yellow Corsa next to it
torpid geyser
yes
fair bronze
@stoic ledge
torpid geyser
1.2 litre
fair bronze
The Miata doesn't look as happy anymore when it's missing its front bumper
torpid geyser
fair bronze
Love it, I think red suits it best
torpid geyser
The roof is silver lmao
torpid geyser
fair bronze
It matches the wheels too
torpid geyser
the car has no soft top as its been taken out
torpid geyser
Nah its getting stanced
fair bronze
lol
fair bronze
Careful without scratching anything
fair bronze
Very
fair bronze
Phil ftw
fair bronze
Not anymore
fossil imp
always will be
torpid geyser
@fossil imp getting a turbo for it after it's lowered and has some camber
fossil imp
😄
torpid geyser
Where I live there is a lot of lanes
We have like one motorway near to me
It's fun to rag it around
there is one guy he has a BMW e30 with a 1jz engine in it
fathom socket
welp I'm screwed lol
why is it $200 on each tire for the 2011 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T Premium grr
fair bronze
Is that for a quality tire?
indigo coral
Parents explorer is 250-280$ a tire oof
fathom socket
the tires are okay in the car but in a few years I will have to get new ones
fair bronze
Honestly if that price is for a quality tire I wouldn't really mind
fathom socket
yeah I can just save up for it
indigo coral
my Rx is still 180$ a tire for the ones I've got rn
stoic ledge
I was tagged 👀
Ah yes, a Corsa ❤
Also a 3 doors D, except it's Sunny Yellow I believe
Based on the trim/bodykit/rims/UK: SRi
fair bronze
torpid geyser
@stoic ledge limited edition buddy
stoic ledge
Same, But different, but still same
😛
UK had so many trims on the Corsa... xD
I've checked the UK Brochure once, mine is like a mix of the Limited Edition and the SXi
eager kite
@fair bronze no literally the only thing that mattered in that test was which truck was heavier and has the torque to use it
fair bronze
No-one can ever convince you of anything so there is no point in having another discussion
eager kite
Dude, it's literally 11th grade physics
I can write it out if you want
This guy explains it as well
dense shard
I already posted it
stoic ledge
^ me too
dense shard
nice
Looks like we all have good taste in channels.
It went through 4 motors and 3 batteries apparently.
Though one of the batteries was a loaner... no clue how that works, but technically the car only had two batteries packs.
It's an earlier model from 2014 or so... still that's not a great metric.
fair bronze
Nice, that is one of the upsides of the simplicity that an electric motor has
dense shard
Yes, but the fact it needed to be replaced isn't a very positive sign.
I think the record holding Volvos are running original engines and transmissions.
fair bronze
Well it still has bearings and such
Also they had recalls for the motors a while ago
dense shard
yeah, but 4 engines is a bit dramatic.
fair bronze
They’re pretty easy to replace though
dense shard
That's still not something that should break is my point.
fair bronze
Don’t know how long they are supposed to last anyway
dense shard
Motors/engines are lifetime parts.
fair bronze
Lifetime doesn’t mean forever
fair bronze
Yes but that is with normal use, which this clearly isn’t
Almost no car on earth drives this much
dense shard
I imagine they're more common than you think.
fair bronze
Keep imagining
fair bronze
Yes but that is a completely different story
dense shard
For some reason the list doesn't include Matt Farrah's million mile Lexus.
dense shard
I'd love to see just how many million mile cars there are on the road.
My prediction is they're mostly made after the 90s.
fair bronze
Same, but not all cars are created equal
dense shard
right
fair bronze
Those old Lexus ones are built extremely well
If only all cars were as well made as that
dense shard
A lot of the manufacturing methods used on Lexus were passed down to Toyotas.
So that's cool stuff.
dense shard
damn... I keep forgetting the beer I had in the fridge was 8%.
civic girder
the only times my Prius have broken have been user error
and even then, it still rolled away from the scene as if nothing happened
and even then, I haven't experienced anything to prove that rotaries are unreliable either. Every time it's been out of commission has been from the previous owner's neglect or a faulty part I installed
fathom socket
I did it http://prntscr.com/q3loob
300mph by removing the parts
http://prntscr.com/q3lp02 made 7th gear a little more faster and use the boost to keep going
fathom socket
https://streamable.com/fzic7 here lol
indigo coral
nice, put 200 miles on my RX today yeet
stoic ledge
A few years == more than one, so 2021-2022 probably
Same date as another EV truck 🤔
eager kite
A few years = 2022+ before they unveil it
stoic ledge
If you say so
wheat hatch
Nice, we can expect some more VelociRaptors from Hennessey in that case
eager kite
Well they're talking about a 2020 hybrid f150 that we haven't seen yet so I'm assuming they mean unveil in 2020
stoic ledge
Probably the same drivetrain we're getting in Europe in the Explorer (which is iirc the same powertrain as the US interceptors have)
3.0 EcoBoost V6 (350hp)
100hp EV, 13.1 kWh (40km EV range)
eager kite
I hope they improve those numbers for the truck
Otherwise it will be pretty lackluster
fair bronze
@fathom socket I love how it sounds like a Beetle at first lol
fathom socket
Ikr xD
indigo coral
Oofy model 3 perf is expensive - 64,990 with fsd
eager kite
Tis expensive
torpid geyser
unreal terrace
My local pub just posted this
civic spoke
Shit's on fire, yo.
raven owl
boys
civic spoke
Perfect car for the weather we were having today.
warm sparrow
A6 allroad much better
civic spoke
Make sure to wear your brown pants. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMu1tOds8-Q
dry fern
Damn they already add a mod of the cyber truck
stoic ledge
1000km/h = 277.7777777777777777m/s
And neither is it 750mph
thinking
~62mph = 100km/h, 100mph = ~ 161km/h, basically all you need to know
jagged coyote
easy way for me is: 50mph=80kmph
fathom socket
My moped only displays kmph so I never know how fast I'm going lmao
stoic ledge
I memorized most usefull conversions
20 mph = ~30kmh
30 mph = 50kmh
40mph = 65km/h
50mph = 80km/h
62mph = 100km/h
70mph = ~110km/h
80mph = ~130km/h
fathom socket
Yeah 62mph displays 100 on my dash lol
Pretty fast for a little engine
Only 1 gallon that reachs 230 miles :D
stoic ledge
Oof
fathom socket
It's fun to go places while you put 2 or 3 dollars of gas
It takes premium for some reason
jagged coyote
premium, regular, who cares, it's just additives
fathom socket
It's a timing on the engine that needs premium for the right combustion speed
Not sure how that works a little
So most cars used regular because the engine is designed for it
If you put premium gas in a car that takes regular gas you can break the timing of the engine if you keep filling it with the wrong gas
jagged coyote
or you have a flexfuel sensor that changes your timing
fathom socket
Oh yeah
jagged coyote
with diesel you don't get timing issue 
instead you get missfires when the engine is cold 
fathom socket
True lmao
Oh yeah this is a good video of I was talking about
Some guy on the internet thougt it was a good idea to put 87 in a Bugatti Veyron
1 Mile later check engine light is on
jagged coyote
knock knock, here's rod #4
fathom socket
That engine cost more then my house I live in 😂
flint sable
The previous owner put black rims on it and I don’t like it, I don’t like the idea of black rims on sports cars
indigo coral
depends on the car
dense shard
If the car is a lighter color... wheels look best black.
If the car is black... find anything but black to paint the wheels.
That's my take on it at any rate.
indigo coral
i wish tesla still offered silver rims on the model 3
only gray now
gray aero or gray sport, literally cannot get silver sport rims anymore
indigo coral
the gray looks bad on the model 3
dense shard
We should return to the 80s... white alloys!
That's because Tesla comes in 4 colors.
Okay exaggeration, but most I see are shades of gray.
dense shard
I see 4 shades of gray there.
indigo coral
? 2
dense shard
oh oops, I thought the wheels more more options.
indigo coral
white, dark gray, light gray/silver, blue, red
indigo coral
id prob get white tbh, teslas look good in white
indigo coral
Looks much nicer in silver rims
imo
well tesla already struggles with paint quality and stuff, adding 30 colours will just make that far worse
dense shard
This isn't even that big an issue at Tesla.
At least they lack variety.
instead of
Mazda and Audi offer multiple shades of the same color.
indigo coral
mazda/audi approach is better or worse?
indigo coral
yeah
dense shard
But... literally 4 shades of gray.
2 blacks.
2 blues
and red
And reds tend to be the lame crayon red. Not that Mazda deep red.
indigo coral
I'm not sure if I'd get the white interior in a Model 3, I love the look but I bet it'd get destroyed
indigo coral
tbh I'd prob get fsd for nav on autopilot and stuff
dense shard
My Accord had light gray seats. Stayed that way for over a decade.
indigo coral
my RX has "ivory" (light beige)
and theyve been fine for 20 years
but its not white
indigo coral
with how simple the seats on the model 3 are it probably wouldnt cost crazy money to have it recovered
not really much funny buisness
dense shard
It gave off cheap vibes in Saturns, and now it cheapens interiors of other brands.
That's probably my biggest gripe about my family's Nissan Rogue... besides less than stellar build quality.
Black dash with nothing to break it up. It ain't pretty.
indigo coral
I have to take out the passenger seat in my mom's car tomorrow 🙄
something is melting underneath if you turn on the heated seats
stinks like hell
dense shard
probably the seat foam
dense shard
oh
indigo coral
I read on a forum that it could be some ground connection melting
idk it smells like melting plastic/electronics
eager kite
eager kite
hopefully that software and production quality increases a lil b4 production
dense shard
don't count on it
Then again the more recent Syncs were great... but the first gen remains an atrocity Ford wishes you'd forget.
eager kite
aww I don't wan't Ford to give EVs another bad name
dense shard
Honestly, I think it'll be Ford giving itself a bad name.
dense shard
It looks alright.
I just think it looks a bit basic.
Especially compared to the competition.
The E-Tron, Model 3/S/X, and hell... even the Leaf have more interesting gauge clusters.
Or more unique.
indigo coral
Model 3 isn't bad imo in terms of speed readout and stuff
dense shard
All important information should be viewable on one axis.
indigo coral
its easier to see it outside the wheel than through it
for me
in a comfortable position
eager kite
also damn, Daimler is looking to cut 10,000 jobs...
dense shard
I would honestly install a phone mount, and use a GPS if I had a Model 3.
Just to track speed.
indigo coral
normally I have to duck my head a bit to see if I'm over ~45 in my car
dense shard
Move your steering wheel up.
indigo coral
then it makes my shoulders hurt 😂
indigo coral
the model 3 has it outside the wheel and in my line of sight
dense shard
I'm not a fan of looking down and to the right.
indigo coral
it was honestly natural for me, but to each their own
dense shard
I prefer one axis movements for important info.
So yes. Yaris and older Nissan Quests annoy me.
indigo coral
in the ~30 minutes I drove the Model 3, I only accidentally looked through the steering wheel once
indigo coral
now that is something that's nice about the 3, the nice low dash
dense shard
They've all made a few fatal errors.
indigo coral
i HATE the new trend of huge towering dash with all the styling and shit, makes it hard to see out the front
dense shard
Ease of use and eyes free operation of controls of a car.
eager kite
that's a bad thing?
indigo coral
even my car you have to look down to adjust bass/mid/treble response and stuff
and its 20y/o
dense shard
If you have to look away to change a radio station, that's a very bad thing.
Distracted driving is a big cause of accidents.
eager kite
wat
indigo coral
there are very few cars you dn't even have to glance to change it
eager kite
bruh, that's from people talking on the phone while driving or texting
dense shard
Changing radio stations is included in that statistic.
eager kite
the majority*
dense shard
Believe it or don't.
indigo coral
im not disagreeing
its just very uncommon that you can do it completely by feel in any sort of quick manner
dense shard
My Accord. You could change everything without looking. No stabbing away blindly at a touch screen.
Call me old fashioned.
indigo coral
the damn twist dials on my car don't have much tactile response
eager kite
well, if the car can drive by itself, then it wouldn't matter if you have to look away to change it.... 
indigo coral
so I have to glance down to change bass/mid/treble
dense shard
I don't want self driving cars.
I want people to pay the fuck attention.
Or take a damn bus.
eager kite
well right now sure
dense shard
In the future doubly so.
eager kite
?
dense shard
Self driving tech won't really solve anything.
eager kite
it will massively reduce the number of collisions
dense shard
Mass transit is the solution unfortunately.
Reduce collisions, but not congestion in major cities.
eager kite
yea for inner city transit
indigo coral
I aint giving up my car. I cannot take the bus. It is just entirely impractical.
eager kite
but for suburban / rural transport, kind of will still need personal vehicles
and for those, if they are self driving then that's a good thing
dense shard
Anyway. We've gone beyond the scope of my issues.
Cars have relegated too many important functions to hardware that isn't conducive to being used blind.
indigo coral
I wish the Model 3 would hurry up and depreciate
So it can be a reasonable competitor for a Genesis or Stinger in my eyes.
dense shard
soon™️
dense shard
For now they're all supported apart from the OG Roadster
indigo coral
and I'd rather not buy one thats banned from autopilot, superchargers and not getting updates
nah the 2012-2014 aren't really getting anything
still using the old UI and stuff
dense shard
News to me.
indigo coral
the circle speedo thing, they still have that
I hope they do better with supporting the Model 3 for a normal car lifespan
eager kite
The problem with the 2012-14 cars is they have different physical hardware
so it would be extremely expensive to retrofit them with the current hardware
kind of sucks, but that's the price of being on the edge of tech (at a given time)
dense shard
That's probably another fatal flaw a lot of new cars have.
You can't just drop in an aftermarket whatever as in older cars.
Tesla isn't alone here for the record.
In fact I'd say they're doing better than most.
Cause at the very least they're offering updates... something current cars fail at.
Or are super apathetic about. ahem... TOYOTA GIVE ME MY FREAKING ANDROID AUTO YOU TURDS
indigo coral
I'm impressed how few RX300 screens have shat the bed
I can only find a few threads about it
compared to... for example... the 90s/00s radio screens on BMW
they all died
all of them
dense shard
That's a feature
It's time for you to buy a new one.
I don't know if you noticed, but only half a screen dies first. It's never all of it.
indigo coral
yeah
indigo coral
oh right hold up so my mother deadass told me today she wishes she knew how to drift cars
lmaoo
dense shard
Don't all moms?
indigo coral
I told her that we should get an old beater rwd (3 series type) car and learn stick and how to drift in it
i'd never get a manual for daily duty though
dense shard
you get used to it.
Manuals aren't that expensive.
Drive it right and a clutch will outlast you
lol
dense shard
Over 100k if you don't be a bitch to your lovely car.
dense shard
better choice tbh.
indigo coral
no dual clutch fuckery, still quick shifts
indigo coral
yep
dense shard
The ZF is one step down from the no gears of electrics.
indigo coral
(tbh is there even any downside for the 8hp???)
dense shard
No gears is smoother than 8.
indigo coral
yeah
dense shard
But ... anyway
indigo coral
the LC 500h has a truly insane transmission... not in a good way
dense shard
back to star trek. It's the episode with the borg.
indigo coral
"It incorporates both a two-motor hybrid continuously variable transmission (CVT) and an Aisin four-speed automatic" what the fucccc?
amber herald
japan's love for CVT
indigo coral
ok but like why the LC 500 non-h has a 10spd auto that is a bit slow but seemingly pretty decent
indigo coral
it just seems like a potential reliability nightmare
dense shard
Toyota has their own requirements
amber herald
Asian market loves CVT. because to them, It feels so sMoOtH.
amber herald
They are smooth. But they break down so easily.
amber herald
You have to like, swap the whole transmission.
dense shard
Most autoshops will replace the transmission
dense shard
Planetary autoboxes are hellish
indigo coral
my rx the planetary gear set is weak and tends to crack 👍
dense shard
The only transmission people will try to fix are manuals
amber herald
What? So the mercs, audi, mazda and shit ton other brands transmissions are hellish?
amber herald
No. to use
indigo coral
the LC 500 has really weird gearing
dense shard
Transmissions are usually replaced
To use? I imagine that the torque converters are nuce
indigo coral
you'd think in a comfortable GT car the 8/10th gear would be a super low cruising gear
dense shard
Dual clutch less so
amber herald
Planetary usually lasts longer
indigo coral
but its still at 0.79
amber herald
Honda Dual clutch is total nightmare
dense shard
By default the simplest design is the most durable
indigo coral
for comparison the 8hp in the stinger has an 8th gear ratio of 0.556
dense shard
Manuals will be more durable
Automatics less so. More moving parts
I haven't found a dct that feels nice
dense shard
I don't like clunky
amber herald
manuals are durable. except in traffic. in my country, you would have to replace the clutch so frequently it is not worth it.
dense shard
Clutches aren't transmissions
amber herald
they are a part of transmission though
dense shard
Clutches are considered consumables
amber herald
A 'okayish' quality clutch lasts about 6 month in my country. traffic jam is just horrible.
dense shard
Sounds like an extreme case
indigo coral
meh, autoboxes for me. wouldn't mind learning on an old 3er or something but for daily duty... paddle shift auto ftw
amber herald
Even DCT's performance was so poor in my country that honda only sells CVTs now here.
DCT used to overheat like crazy.
dense shard
DCTs biggest weakness is stop and go traffic
indigo coral
dct also is more expensive than autobox
amber herald
Usually, people buy CVTs and people who love to drive tries to get A good automatic with padel shifters (like mazda).
Cars are super expensive here.
indigo coral
uhoh like how bad?
amber herald
like 100% customs taxs on a brand new car with 1.5L engine.
indigo coral
@stoic ledge you may have a rival for high tax winner
just to sate my curiosity - how much does a Mustang GT w/ the 5.0 v8 cost?
amber herald
all of the south asian countries have similar taxes.
I think it is even worse in India and Pakistan.
indigo coral
yikes
another member of this discord, MK, has super high taxes too and I always am bothering him to figure out how crazy expensive cars are over there
oh hi mk
indigo coral
is it possible to upsize wheels by 2 inches on a car?
amber herald
indigo coral
heard online the most you're able to do is 1in in either direction
amber herald
49.0 lacs = 55K USD
indigo coral
Wow
we don't get the Q2 here afaik
we do get the A5 SB and A3 though
and FINALLY the RS6 Avant
I maintain that if i had a 3 car dream garage it'd be:
Lexus LFA N-Ring edition
RS6 Avant
Tesla Model 3.
If I had a 5 car:
LFA
RS6
Model 3
Shelby Raptor Baja
and... idk
amber herald
yeah man
amber herald
nope. only this one.
amber herald
😅 😅
amber herald
@indigo coral
A G-class maybe?
amber herald
😂
indigo coral
stock 0-60 in sub 2s is impressive to say the least
Course then there's 2 supercars
But very very different supercars
wbu? 3&5 car garages?
(In Dreamland, not reality haha)
@stoic ledge would just get 5 corsas
amber herald
- Cybertruck
- Model S
- Land cruiser
indigo coral
Nice
amber herald
Dunno about Supercars
indigo coral
funny that mine would have 1 v8, 1 V10 and one EV // or 2 V8, 1 V10, 2 EV
the V10 in the LFA sounds amazing
amber herald
LFA engine😍 😍
stoic ledge
is it possible to upsize wheels by 2 inches on a car?
Yes
civic spoke
But why would you want to do that?
I can get going from 15-16 up to 17-18. But so many rims beyond that are silly.
stoic ledge
fathom socket
wait wtf was that james may
civic spoke
Yes.
fair bronze
Windows just greeted me with this beautiful sight
jagged coyote
carmine summit
GlassBomb I'm thinking having 3" bigger wheels would make my car look a lot better
going from 14s to these would be ideal
viral matrix
viral matrix
Mondeo mk3
shadow cedar
dense shard
lol
fair bronze
Ah I see
dry fern
Lmaooo
fathom socket
night current
LOL
fathom socket
http://prntscr.com/q4c8i3 http://prntscr.com/q4c8p5 makes sense
dense shard
I wasn't aware concepts count as sales.
civic spoke
More like, stuck.
eager kite
Guess the car
tight cypress
cybertröck
eager kite
Has pretty good Cd
Should be even better irl cause my model is not amazingly accurate
fair bronze
@tight cypress Seems like tons of fun
tight cypress
yeah¨
fair bronze
I wonder if we'll be getting snow again in the Netherlands this winter
Should be fun while it lasts
stoic ledge
Last winter was nearly 0
fair bronze
We had a few days with lots of snow and ice
stoic ledge
Not here 👀
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/375461451403624471/612409698221686813/IMG_20190201_072558.jpg
Most snow we had here xD
charred ruin
fair bronze
Last winter was the first time I drifted on public roads because of the snow
I also did a handbrake turn for the first time
It was quite a lot more than what you got there lol
wary marsh
eager kite
thicc file
dense shard
rekt
Mind you, this isn't because Audi and Mercedes are in dire straits.
They just figured they can eke out more profit without taking a hit to production.
Ford, GM are doing it as well.
eager kite
Audi is literally saying they are doing it so they can have the money to invest in EVs and other tech things
Daimler as well is saying it's cutting jobs because of the switch over to EVs
So is BMW
So I mean, I guess you're right in the sense that right now they aren't cutting jobs so they can make money.
stoic ledge
A restructing plan isn't something new, many brands have done it in the past
eager kite
But they can see that they will be up shit creek if they don't take action now
eager kite
Also I found the database of pro tesla accounts that teslaq preemptively blocks and I'm on it lol
torpid dune
@misty cipher @golden tinsel Down here
viral matrix
Woke up from the winter sleep nicely
dry fern
@viral matrix ? How to shift on a motorcycle