Did you save that money up over time or did you get like an inheritance?
#cars
eager kite
dense shard
I saved it over time.
stoic ledge
Imagine wanting something, saving up for it, and then buying it with money you actually have
eager kite
Well, if you had invested 25k over 3 years into an S&P 500 and made 8% interest, you would have made an extra 3.2K.
If you put 5k down from investments on that 23.5k car, and got a 18.5k loan at 4% apr, and paid for it all from your investments, at the end of your 5 year loan you would still have 10k in your investment acct. Which means that you effectively paid 13.5k for the same car
dense shard
And had the stock market gone to shit, or I had made a bad investment.
I'd have declared bankruptcy, I'd have no car, no money, and ruined credit.
And I'd have issues finding a job as many workplaces look at your financial history these days.
I'm very risk averse.
And I didn't have 25 grand when I started saving up money.
I had to save up to get to that point.
eager kite
The S&P 500 is one of the lowest risk investments out there
dense shard
Still a risk.
eager kite
Cash is a rish
dense shard
Not one I was willing to take living in Japan.
eager kite
It's all online
eager kite
No I haven't
dense shard
Doing anything with your cash online there is a tremendous pain in the ass.
It wasn't worth the stress for me.
eager kite
Did you have a US bank account?
dense shard
I do, yes.
eager kite
If you had sent it to that then investing online prob would had been easier
dense shard
Sending it is not that easy.
or cheap
Japan loves fees for damn near anything.
I had to give money to my bank to send money to an intermediary who I paid money to transfer it to my US account.
eager kite
What are the regulations on cryptocurrencies in japan do you know?
dense shard
I am NOT fucking with that shit.
I don't care what the regulations are.
That shit is sketchier than a 1965 Mustang on a used car lot without a VIN.
dense shard
If you ignore the exchanges being shut down over various issues.
And the fact crypto seems to exist to be sketchy... sure... legit.
And that's ignoring the wild swings in value with no attachment to reality.
eager kite
There are cryptos designed to be anonymous
There are also cryptos that are very transparent
dense shard
I'm not going to play with a pseudo currency who's value is linked to memes and speculations.
eager kite
Like bitcoin
dense shard
Bitcoin is supposed to be anonymous last I heard.
eager kite
There are cryptos that are pegged to the USD
dense shard
And it's value is linked to speculation and memes.
If there are cyptos pegged to the USD... why would I not use the USD?
It's just a dollar with extra steps.
eager kite
Bitcoin has anonymized addresses, but the transactions are public record
You could use it to transfer money from Japan to USD
To the US
dense shard
I'd still have to pay fees.
eager kite
What fees?
dense shard
Bank fees, transfer fees.
eager kite
Sure but usually those are minor for crypto markets
dense shard
Not worth it in my books.
eager kite
Worth it if it saves me 10k
dense shard
Arguably saves me 10k.
eager kite
Like, even if it took an hour of my time once a month for 8 years to do, it's like being paid $100/hour
dense shard
I've been poor most of my life. I'm not willing to gamble with my money.
I can't afford to lose out on it.
Because if the market goes tits up... which it does.
stoic ledge
Good job buying a Toyota then
dense shard
I'd be shit out of luck.
dense shard
Toyota will last me a few decades.
stoic ledge
Won't lose any money
eager kite
You'll stay poor if you never invest
dense shard
The rich are so because they spend little.
stoic ledge
You'll stay poor if you never invest
thonking
dense shard
I'll make money if I find a good job, spend wisely and live within my means.
I'm not looking to win at life. Just enjoy myself.
eager kite
The rich are rich because they invested
dense shard
Good for them.
They also tend to start out rich.
Give me a million to invest, and I'll also be rich.
Bezos, Gates, Musk were all pretty well off before they started businesses. They could afford failure.
I can't.
Investing is not smart for me right now.
Cause the first thing I'll do with a job is buy a house. Then I can start messing around with investments.
eager kite
Bezos, Gates, and Musk weren't well off before starting their companies
dense shard
They were from rich families.
eager kite
Like, they weren't poor but they weren't rich
dense shard
You don't drop out of an Ivy League school if you are poor.
eager kite
Elon literally was living off a dollar a day when he started paypal
Well, zip2 at the time
Graham Stephan is someone who went from rags to riches though
dense shard
That's one person.
Studies have shown successes come more readily to those in better positions in society.
eager kite
He's a youtuber that started from like $1k to his name and now has a net worth of 7M at 30 years old
eager kite
Made his money off real estate
eager kite
Yea it's even more risky
dense shard
Not really.
eager kite
Yea really
dense shard
Buy a few properties, fix it, and rent it.
It takes more work, but property returns more.
People will ALWAYS need housing.
There is always a market for housing.
eager kite
Yea, and if a shooting happens nearby or robbery picks up or a natural disaster your property value tanks
stoic ledge
Imagine having enough money to buy multiple real estates... Then you're quite rich already
dense shard
Shootings don't tank properties.
eager kite
If they happen in neighborhoods they do
dense shard
My parents house goes up year on year despite a kidnapping in the area.
Birmingham has constant shootings and robberies.
Properties on southside go up year on year.
stoic ledge
> Imagine having shootings xD
eager kite
Yea ik
fair bronze
I’ve had a few shootings around here, property prices keep going up
dense shard
I'm more willing to work for it than investing money in a market.
Shootings don't really tie into property value.
eager kite
My point is that you don't have to be rich and you don't have to have a ton of knowledge about investing to make safe investments and grow your wealth
fair bronze
As long as it’s not a gang area it’s fine
dense shard
It helps if you know things.
I'm not that interested in gambling.
It's fun as a hobby or if you aren't basing your life on it.
I don't have the money to invest my life on right now.
fair bronze
You don’t have to be rich but you need a ton of luck
dense shard
I'm saving, and playing it cautious.
eager kite
You can even use services like betterment which does the investments for you all you do is put in what kind of thing you want to use the money for, when you'll need it, and how much you put into it every year
stoic ledge
@fair bronze yeah they've gone up nation wide, so even in area's with shootings/crime/whatever xD
fair bronze
Yeah lol
dense shard
I don't have money to invest, what makes you think I have money to pay people to invest money I don't have for me?
Shootings aren't tied to propety values.
Because as much as the world likes to make America seem like a war zone... it isn't.
You are more likely to die driving to work than getting shot... ever.
stoic ledge
That's with everything (;
dense shard
And in big cities even teh risk of floods doesn't affect property values.
Cause what are you going to do?
Not live in the city?
stoic ledge
Just like you are more likely to die on the road than in a plane
dense shard
Drive a 2 hour commute?
eager kite
They aren't free but you'll make a lot more money than if you just hold onto cash in a bank
You'll lose money due to inflation that way
dense shard
I'm not willing to risk it.
If the market turns sour I have no fall back plan.
I don't buy into that weird American thing of investing is the right thing to do.
eager kite
That's why you don't invest 100% of your wealth
dense shard
I don't have much to invest.
eager kite
My point is you could have, that's all
dense shard
I need to keep my money here on me in case I get a job offer in Flagstaff or some shit.
I could have, and I would not have a car I like.
eager kite
Yes you would
dense shard
I'd be miserable, annoyed, and questioning my self.
eager kite
As I laid out
dense shard
You ignore what I've said.
So I'll say it again.
I'm risk averse.
The stock market is a risk.
I'm not willing to take.
stoic ledge
What car is the Stock Market? Haven't heard of the brand Stock before, probably never sold here
Is it as good as Tesla?
dense shard
It's called a Ferrari.
You buy it to keep in a garage in hopes it'll be worth something in 30 years.
stoic ledge
> imagine having a garage and not using it for storage
dense shard
Two car garage for guess how many cars?
fair bronze
I have like 6 bicycles in my garage
stoic ledge
4
dense shard
lol I wish.
indigo coral
The day I turn 18 I'm opening a Robinhood account
dense shard
It's not the biggest garage.
stoic ledge
We have 5 bicycle, but we live here with 3 xD
eager kite
Doing anything in the economy is risky
dense shard
I'll invest when I can afford it.
indigo coral
We have a like... 10 car garage and 1 sits outside (mine)
eager kite
Holding money in a bank is a risk
dense shard
My money is insured in a bank.
eager kite
Having a credit card is a risk
indigo coral
well two garages
stoic ledge
> imagine having a multiple car garage
eager kite
Investing is a risk
stoic ledge
Yes I've seen it
dense shard
I'm just happy I don't have to park outside.
That shit ruined my Accord.
Bird shit, sun, sap.
indigo coral
Mine sits outside sadly
dense shard
bummer
indigo coral
Not immediately under a tree tho
dense shard
I didn't have a choice.
dense shard
I wasn't about to park my car on the street.
stoic ledge
Mines outside 24/7
fair bronze
Same here
stoic ledge
I did wash it today 👀
indigo coral
I want to park mine inside but the CNC router takes up one of the car bays 😂
stoic ledge
It's white again
fair bronze
me corsa diked
dense shard
My car was clean, but already has paw prints on her.
My cat likes to climb all over the cars.
fair bronze
Oh you got the new Corolla
dense shard
yep
fair bronze
It is such a nice car
stoic ledge
Oof yikes, don't those nails scratch the paint?
indigo coral
It's teeny rho
fair bronze
I’ve driven the 1.2T and 2.0 Hybrid
indigo coral
The backseat was miniscule in the Corolla
fair bronze
Really impressed by it
dense shard
But I've decided to take a more relaxed approach. Scratches will happen. No reason to stress.
stoic ledge
He has a 2.0 manual because US
dense shard
Oh yeah. It is the 2.0 manual.
fair bronze
The rear seat isn’t huge no
indigo coral
(yes it was a hatchback)
stoic ledge
(with anti theft device)
dense shard
lol
fair bronze
If only we got the 2.0
dense shard
It's not a big car, but I don't plan on carrying people so it's a non-issue for me.
I almost wish it was a 2 door.
fair bronze
Doesn’t mean you have to get a smart
indigo coral
I'd not get a stick myself, but I'm also down with electric cars so I clearly have no taste
stoic ledge
JD: one word: super high emissions taxes
fair bronze
Yup
dense shard
lol smart
dense shard
to put it kindly.
indigo coral
Smart cars are crud
dense shard
A Yaris is a better idea.
indigo coral
Corolla is too small for me, but a nice little car
dense shard
Same price, bigger and better fuel economy.
I mean the sedan is pretty big in the back.
The hatchback is 100% meant for a different market.
indigo coral
Genesis G70 is borderline too small
dense shard
I don't know why Toyota is selling the hatchback in the US, but I'm happy.
indigo coral
Lowkey I'd get the Genesis GV70 when it releases
stoic ledge
To attract more youthful buyers?
I'd say they prefer the hatchback over the sedan
And, well, they already make it, so why not bring it to the US?
stoic ledge
Oof
dense shard
Is that for real?
indigo coral
They've got the covered up version driving around
stoic ledge
Didn't they reveal a new G90 or something a few days ago?
indigo coral
So this is a bit extrapolated
dense shard
There's something dopey about it.
indigo coral
The angle
dense shard
oh a render?
indigo coral
Yeah
Real ones ^^
G70 is a nice looking little sport sedan but the trunk is unusable
Interior is really nice tho.
Both aesthetically and quality wise
stoic ledge
Russelsheim plates 👀
stoic ledge
So it's being tested by Kia
indigo coral
Hyundai owns Kia so
dense shard
They should have just stuck a big ass on it, and called it a wagon.
stoic ledge
Yeah I know
dense shard
A lot of modern sedans are begging for a wagon or shoot brake version.
stoic ledge
Oof yes please
indigo coral
G70 needs more cargo space and it's perfect
dense shard
And yes I'm a bit bummed the wagon never made it to the US for the Corolla.
indigo coral
stoic ledge
> Golf clubs
dense shard
But they look nothing like a VW?
dense shard
oh that is small
indigo coral
Yep
indigo coral
ye
much bigger
But the interior and driving experience of the Genesis is better
Bigger backseat in stinger too
stoic ledge
I personally nearly never use my trunks full capacity
indigo coral
I wonder if there's any space below the cargo floor on the g70
Maybe there's a spare under there 
It DOES!
There is a temp spare (donut I assume) but hey better than a fix a flat kit
stoic ledge
indigo coral
I've got a full size spare with a full rim 😂
Think the rim is even painted, could be wrong tho
stoic ledge
> imagine having a trailer xD
> imagine having a car which can tow that much xD
> imagine having the license to pull that combination xD
indigo coral
my dad has an old pickup (1997 F250 w/ Banks kit)
stoic ledge
had to Google banks kit
Looks nice
vital glen
@stoic ledge I can tow you
fair bronze
Yeah but he could also just sit inside the car
stoic ledge
@vital glen ok do it
stoic ledge
Yeah no nvm
fair bronze
Just wait for the Tesla Cyberboat
eager kite
Also found out that the back side window of the truck prototype wasn't armored glass, so that's why it also broke when Franz hit it with a steel ball
Fracture pattern was also different
keen shard
That new Tesla pickup must be really fast as they put the graphics on low
eager kite
It's going to sell very well to police departments
dense shard
I'll probably get shot for pointing and laughing at them.
eager kite
Especially the long range and the large payload and towing cap
dense shard
No sane department is gonna pay 70 grand for a truck.
dense shard
Then the Tesla will be radically more expensive.
For what is currently not even road legal.
eager kite
Nah bc Teslas can integrate a lot of what police spend so much for ice cars
dense shard
"The city of Fairfield purchased four Ford Police Interceptor all-wheel drive utility vehicles earlier this month at a price tag of $105,960. That price includes a base cost of $25,000 per vehicle, plus $5,000 for a specialized police package that includes protective screens and mounts for laptops. They will replace four Crown Victoria cruisers with more than 100,000 miles on each of them."
Also 4 Ford SUVs cost 25,000 dollars.
They can get 3 of those for the price of one Tesla.
And the Cybertruck will still need integration for various police gear.
Driving up cost.
Also I see very very few pick up trucks being used by police departments.
eager kite
So 30k before the department makes any of the required modifications
So all the equipment, potential engine upgrades, increased armoring in the doors and stronger glass
eager kite
Yea that's what the article you quoted from
dense shard
The automakers have specific packages they sell to government agencies.
You said 30k before shit
It's 30k with all shit being done.
"That price includes a base cost of $25,000 per vehicle, plus $5,000 for a specialized police package"
25k plus 5k.
eager kite
Yes, which is 25k for the car, and 5k that adds the divider screen behind the driver and a mount for a laptop
dense shard
That's a total cost of 30k.
It's various mods such as.
The article is no exhaustive.
The cars don't get engine upgrades.
It's usually a heavy duty alternator and a bigger radiator to cope with the heat.
That comes factory standard.
Otherwise heavier suspension... also factory stock.
Wheels and tires are factory stock.
The cars are purchased as mostly complete. All that's required is the local department swag such as laptops.
eager kite
Not the laptop or a crash bar or lights or armor or better windshield and more
eager kite
Yea there are
dense shard
No, they aren't.
Unless you can prove me otherwise.
You talk, but give no evidence.
Right now even if the total cost is 35 grand.
eager kite
Yes there are such thing as stronger windshields
dense shard
Why?
Why does a cop car need a "stronger windshield"
Where is your source on that?
eager kite
Not all need them
eager kite
But if you're in a crime prone area then it helps to have a windshield that doesnt allow 9mm through
dense shard
Cause I'm calling bullshit on even one car having an aftermarket law enforcment specific window.
"No, they do not.
It would be cost prohibitive to equip standard police vehicles with bullet proof glass (actually bullet resistant glass would be more accurate). Also, there is the issue of police cars being shot at (a relatively rare event in the United States)."
Quora disagrees with you.
Should I tweet Detroit and find out from them?
dense shard
That isn't common.
eager kite
dense shard
And how much cost does it add?
eager kite
dense shard
Cause last I heard most departments do NOT bulletproof their cars.
hey hey I know you're lagging a bit here, but answer my questions.
eager kite
I never said all do
dense shard
Then stop acting like they all do.
eager kite
Nope
dense shard
No wonder people block you on twitter.
You backpedal and move your opinions around so fast it would make a modern day politician nauseous.
eager kite
I specifically stated that some add those modifications
dense shard
Standard cost of a police cruiser is 30k.
eager kite
Not all
dense shard
Period. End of story.
eager kite
Yes the starting price is 30k
eager kite
Yes
dense shard
Full price is 30k.
eager kite
No
dense shard
You saying yes doesn't make it so.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
For the next three bullshit statements you make.
eager kite
You cannot buy the car for 30k and the next day use it on the road as a cruiser
Your own source agrees with this
indigo coral
Our local PD has custom explorers, and a Model S, a Bolt, and a Highlander
dense shard
No, you buy it for 25k, and a few weeks later they're on the road.
indigo coral
Oh and a few Tauruses
dense shard
For an extra 5 grand.
dense shard
oh wait... I was wrong.
indigo coral
I do think they'll sell a few to police, not a ton tho.
eager kite
dense shard
It's even lower than you are pretending.
eager kite
Pretending?
dense shard
Tesla Cybertruck will be a meme DARE car for school officers.
eager kite
I'm using your source
dense shard
You are arguing against me without reading what I say.
indigo coral
there's lots of different configs for explorers tho. Some of them here have the base 2L, some have the 3.7, some have an Ecoboost
eager kite
It will sell well because of it's specs
dense shard
You are making shit up as you go along.
eager kite
Nope
dense shard
The specs are no better than the F150.
Which is a fraction of the price.
Try again.
dense shard
No.
Try again.
Stop clutching your Elon Musk picture, and think for a few minutes.
eager kite
More power, more torque, more payload, more towing cap, higher acceleration...
But yea
dense shard
If you get the tri motor, maybe.
eager kite
Nothing better
dense shard
But cops don't tow much.
Tesla is vastly more expensive.
The truck is virtually unproven.
Servicing will be a bitch.
eager kite
Service?
dense shard
The costs are unknown.
Yes, I'm not going into this again.
Cops cars have vastly more wear than civilian counterparts.
dense shard
Yes, and?
eager kite
They idle their cars constantly
dense shard
No shit.
eager kite
No problem of that with ev
dense shard
They do more than sit around eating donuts.
eager kite
Ofc
dense shard
Then why are you stating the obvious?
eager kite
But the majority of a shift the cars aren't moving
dense shard
You have totally ignored the issue of cost.
eager kite
Just putting wear on the engine
eager kite
It's not 25k, it's 30k per your source
dense shard
Tesla doesn't have a cop discount program like the big 3 do.
I posted two sources.
Try again buddy.
😂
YOu still ignore the higher cost of the Tesla.
You do realize that, right?
The Cybertruck will cost more?
You know... more dollars to buy?
eager kite
And, if Tesla adopts this which it makes sense if they do, they could incorporate the software the police use into the truck
dense shard
That's a big if.
eager kite
And internet comes standard with the cars
eager kite
So no monthly mobile data charge for them
Yea I agree the purchase price will probably be higher in most cases
But like, end costs will be less
dense shard
"probably"
In what cases would it be cheaper?
😂
Is Tesla going to give a 75% discount?
Cause I might have to set up my own police department to get a discount like that.
eager kite
Ford F150 police version is 45K
And they could buy the 50k truck and it would beat this F150
eager kite
50k can do 10k lbs
eager kite
Fastest f150 has a 0-60 in 3.9
Which has like 300hp more than the offering from ford
The dual motor tesla truck 0-60 is less than 4.5
Pretty likely its a bit faster
Also, most police are putting less than 300 miles on their cars per 8 hour shift, so most of them could pretty easily buy the 50k version and be fine in terms of range. It would also line up pretty well in terms of shift changes, cause then it isn't an issue as to who fills the car up on their shift.
carmine summit
police don't need a truck that can accelerate like that
F150s, Chevy Suburbans, and Dodge Chargers
the Chargers do the pursuit
civic girder
civic girder
yus
dense shard
Looking good.
carmine summit
an FB that's a lot less rusty than the one my friend had
it became a parts car for one that had been sitting in a garage for 20 years
civic girder
it has an undercoat, so it's fairly clean; but I also don't know how bad the rust might be underneath
carmine summit
you could look inside the rockers from 30 feet away on my friend's car
civic girder
it sat for 15 years under a tree, and 15 years in a garage before that
indigo coral
i was just under my car changing oil the other night, and wow it was actually almost perfectly rust free
carmine summit
I'm keeping my eyes open for a rust free shell for my car
indigo coral
aside from a few tiny specks on exhaust, theres no rust i could see
civic girder
I need to do an oil change in the FB, but I'm putting it off until spring. The oil was nearly empty when I got the car, and it's got fresh oil and filter in it now; so it should last the winter, especially since I won't be driving it that much.
carmine summit
if it's more than 8 months old it has rust, guaranteed
civic girder
oof
eager kite
I see a lot of pickup police cars in the midwest
civic girder
really? I never see any
eager kite
Not in the cities
civic girder
yea, not in the cities, lol
carmine summit
I see them often but they aren't pursuit vehicles
eager kite
But in suburbs and rural areas they are pretty common
carmine summit
they're undercover or they're for towing police boats and stuff
indigo coral
my local PD has one, but mostly Explorers.
The f150 cop is really really sneaky though
best unmarked they have
eager kite
Idk what the ratio is btw suvs/sedans vs trucks
civic girder
both grandparents on both sides of my family live in small ass towns in buttfuck nowhere midwest. Never seen a pickup cop
carmine summit
F150s are the perfect undercover police car here
the F150 is the best selling vehicle here, beats the Corolla and everything else
civic girder
yea
indigo coral
yep
civic girder
It's always "Truck Month" in the US
carmine summit
I'm in Canada
civic girder
it's stupid easy to get a good deal on pretty much every truck on the market
carmine summit
everyone and their dog has an F150 or a Ram 1500 or a Chevy Silverado
carmine summit
I feel like I should get a truck as a daily because the roads here suck
vital glen
@carmine summit Get a monster truck
civic girder
as if every Toyota Hybrid wasn't based off the Prius
dense shard
They're all built on a common platform these days anyway.
vital glen
@civic girder It's everything around the drive train is mediocre
carmine summit
I'd like a 67 ish F250 longbed with a 6.354 Perkins. slap a 3.21 rear end in it and get like 30 mpg
civic girder
nah, Prius is actually quite a nice vehicle
indigo coral
I'd like a Model 3 Performance 
civic girder
I have lots of reasons to buy a truck
carmine summit
I do but I like slammed econoboxes
dense shard
I'd rock one of those for the apparently super simplicity of it.
carmine summit
speaking of 90s Dodge Cummins my dad has one
indigo coral
My grandpa has a 01 cummins
vital glen
You are fooling yourself @civic girder
carmine summit
but a 67 F250 with a 6.354 Perkins would be way simpler
dense shard
The 90s Ram diesel apparently had no software involved.
Mechanical fuel injection and everything.
vital glen
Yeah
carmine summit
it's a medium duty truck engine in a light duty truck
all old diesels are mechanical
civic girder
mechanical injection is......interesting
civic girder
that screams unreliable
dense shard
Give me that with a manual transmission.
indigo coral
mine has very obnoxious software
carmine summit
it was manual
carmine summit
oh yeah a Cummins with a 5 speed is good
indigo coral
it was very angry today because my brother left the door cracked open and killed the battery nearly, barely cranked over
civic girder
why would you want a VW anyways, unless it's a really old one
indigo coral
-.-
dense shard
Volkswagen holds no interest to me.
civic girder
that's why you have a car that doesn't give two shits about the door being open
carmine summit
we used to have a 1988 square body GMC Sierra 2500 3+3 with a 6.354 Perkins and a 5 speed trans, that thing was basically indestructible
civic girder
battery can't drain if there's no sensors
dense shard
It can drain if the cabin light is on.
indigo coral
its the interior door lights that kill it
carmine summit
and it got 30 mpg
indigo coral
i have the roof lights disabled
civic girder
yea, my FB's door light doesn't function
indigo coral
i wonder if I can take out the bulb 🤔
civic girder
so I could leave the doors open for months and the battery would still be good
indigo coral
lol
civic girder
the door light uses the map light, but the sensors that tell it to turn on either don't work, or that whole circuit is broken
map light still works tho
vital glen
Real men don't use electricity
civic girder
false
indigo coral
for mine everything works but the interior lights have a switch to disable them, but not the door lights
civic girder
real men use a proper balance of electricity and mechanical
indigo coral
which is annoying
civic girder
lmao
vital glen
No
indigo coral
when the battery dies, the ECU loses its programming and adaptations
vital glen
Real men hand crank their engines Everytime
civic girder
lame
vital glen
It builds character
indigo coral
so it falls back to default and has to rebuild the configuration as you drive lool
carmine summit
try hand craking a 6.354 perkins
civic girder
real men use manual choke to start their carbureted car
carmine summit
you will not be able to
indigo coral
shifts rougher and takes longer to accellerate and shift, until it gets its head on straight again and goes back to normal
carmine summit
the rebuild spec is 400 psi compression
carmine summit
just have a manual
civic girder
that too
carmine summit
problem solved
civic girder
that solves the rough shifts
carmine summit
lmao
civic girder
I can't engrish
indigo coral
me either lol
the adaptive ecu is okay, it makes it shift much nicer as it learns my driving style compared to the old guy we bought it from
civic girder
I should probably go check the FB's oil. I topped it off earlier but gotta wait an hour for the engine to cool and the oil to settle
indigo coral
when it learns my driving style its much more willing to drop a gear and go, before it would be very unhappy shifting down, and would not want to move in any sort of haste
with his driving profile
civic girder
sounds like the Prius
indigo coral
well he never took it on the highway
civic girder
passing sucks because the throttle response is complete ass
indigo coral
when I got it the wheels were terribly out of balance
the steering wheel was shaking crazy bad on the highway
civic girder
the RX-7 is also a lot better now that vacuum advance actually works, lol
vital glen
Just duct tape the wheel in place @indigo coral
indigo coral
so in order to get everything reasonably in spec, I had to get it balanced, aligned, then balanced again
vital glen
It can't shake if it can't move
indigo coral
the tyres are worn unevenly but theyre in the back and seem to not be overly compromised so its fine
civic girder
I'm waiting for that to bite you in the ass one day
indigo coral
no cords showing or anything, just worn the tread down
indigo coral
its just the interior bit, the bad part isn't even touching teh ground anymore
front was way out of alignment
which is resolved now
dense shard
You just have to do it as in the model T days when you need a new tire.
It worked for Henry, it'll work for you.
civic girder
just burn oil, be like Mazda, be a rotary
dense shard
or a VW
civic girder
nah, if you're gonna burn oil, do it right
indigo coral
but eh, like a quart every couple thousand miles isn't bad for 20 years old
civic girder
quart for every 1k as part of normal operation
indigo coral
wot
civic girder
welcome to rotary
indigo coral
only on VWs
civic girder
nah
it legit says in the RX-7 owner's manual
"You will need to add one quart of mineral motor oil every one thousand miles"
indigo coral
Oof
mine isn't supposed to burn any, but 132k miles and 20 years doesn't result in perfect tolerances
civic girder
and that's on top of the 3k miles recommended oil change schedule
indigo coral
yeah lexus forums recommend 2k-3k oil changes on mine, but thats using natural oil
synth can go 5-6k
civic girder
using synth in a rotary is a recipe for carbon lock
indigo coral
(1MZ-FE has baaad oil sludge problems w/ normal oil)
synthetic doesn't sludge up near as bad, if at all
civic girder
but synth doesn't burn as well as conventional oil
civic girder
rotaries burn motor oil, right?
conventional oil doesn't leave behind as much carbon deposits when burned compared to synthetic
indigo coral
oh well rotary okay
dense shard
oh yeah rotaries just burn oil.
indigo coral
I also have a miniscule leak somewhere i think but i super don't care enough to deal with it
I've never seen a drop hit the ground
civic girder
it's probably an internal leak
dense shard
Brightside is no oil changes, right?
indigo coral
only way I know its there is poking my fingers around underneath the engine
civic girder
yes and no, you should still do traditional oil changes in a rotary
dense shard
oh? News to me.
dense shard
So where's the uhhh... crank case?
civic girder
you want to keep rotaries topped off on oil. you don't just run them till the empty mark and then top it off and change the filter
dense shard
Where does the oil sit in a rotary?
civic girder
everywhere
dense shard
Like a dry lube system?
vital glen
@dense shard on the floor of your garage
dense shard
ayyyyy
indigo coral
obviously rotaries run on oil
indigo coral
i put diesel in this time - michael scott
night current
OOF
Ngl, its still impressive the ball didnt go through the window.
I bet it would've with a traditional window.
eager kite
the back window they threw it at was made of normal tesla glass, but Franz threw it like 1/2 as hard as he did on the first window, so probably why it didn't go through the second one.
short slate
do I go and get my radiator replaced for like $300, or do I just throw in some stop leak and hope it holds out until I sell the damn thing...
stoic ledge
Fix it, use it as an argument when you sell it
fair bronze
^
jagged coyote
so this is how you defeat the armored glass, one impact on the door, the other on the window
eager kite
Twitter
stoic ledge
ok
eager kite
stoic ledge
ok
wheat hatch
ok
night current
Pretty good vid Arial.
You should see injust6's video on it... (I think that's his name)
indigo coral
Doug's gonna make a video talking about it... That'll be interesting xD
fair bronze
THIS...
...is the Tesla Cybertruck
Do people actually realise that they can only configure it in two years if everything goes according to plan
eager kite
Yea I saw his vid on it @night current
Agreed with most of what he said
@fair bronze I mean the exterior isn't really going to change much from now until then
Like, there will be a few, such as windshield wipers, a 3rd tail light, etc...
fair bronze
No but you're preordering something that won't be on your driveway within at least 2.5 years
indigo coral
I really hope the aesthetics change
fair bronze
Don't forget the mirrors/cameras
eager kite
Oh yea everyone realizes that
indigo coral
Make it look like a real pickup
fair bronze
How do you know?
eager kite
It's right on the reserve page
indigo coral
Not a Honda Ridgeline that's confused about it's sexuality
fair bronze
lol
eager kite
Like, unless you can't read, then it's hard to miss
fair bronze
Most people can't read
eager kite
👎
fair bronze
Oh you haven't seen anything lol
eager kite
They should learn how to read
fair bronze
They should, but that's the thing: they won't
#375881291943510016 is a great example of this
I have years of experience in customer service, 80% of the people I was helping didn't read everything
It's crazy
eager kite
But you don't need to read everything
fair bronze
Well you kinda do if you plan to purchase a $50k truck
eager kite
This is like, in your face when preordering
fair bronze
Yes but that doesn't matter
People are stupid
It sounds ricidulous, but that's because it is
night current
I mean, to be honest, most people who read contracts dont read the entire thing
fair bronze
No and that's how they get in trouble
indigo coral
that's how you get a 25% interest rate or something
eager kite
but like, you don't even need to look at the contract for this
indigo coral
And screw yourselfn
fair bronze
Especially if you're doing riskful stuff like spending a lot of money at once or investing
indigo coral
People are hyped and 100$ isn't much
Most of those reservations are gonna disappear once it comes time to pay up
fair bronze
Say whatever you like but this time I know exactly what I'm talking about
eager kite
I agree that people don't read the fine print on tons of stuff, fuck everyone doesn't read the agreements when installing software onto their pc
fair bronze
I'm not saying it's a bad thing or whatever
indigo coral
I do!
eager kite
but most of the videos on the truck mention the production time
the website says it right above the order button and right below the price
fair bronze
No, I don't read software agreements either because they are not legally binding most of the time
eager kite
people will want to know if their $100 is refundable or not
eager kite
so they will look at the text below which says it is, and when production is expected to start
fair bronze
I'm just questioning if the hype will still be there for everyone in 2-3 years
fair bronze
Maybe they'll realise they don't actually need a truck?
eager kite
no, they want it because they have some reasons that convince them to buy it
they don't need it
fair bronze
The hype around it convinced them
eager kite
very few people actually need a pickup truck, they could just as easily get a SUV or crossover and a roof rack and be fine
fair bronze
It's just like Apple every year
eager kite
oh the hype around the truck?
fair bronze
Only not $1k but $50k
eager kite
nah, I'd say it's the range and price
fair bronze
We'll see if that holds up
eager kite
it's also a big sign to investors that Tesla has a breakthrough battery cost saving technology
because the cost to make the battery required for the base model would be over 10K today
which leaves them with 20k to make the rest of the truck
to get a decent gross margin
so because it's unlikely they can make the rest of the truck for 20k, it points towards the battery being much cheaper, maybe around 40-50% of what it is today
25K seems reasonable for the rest of the truck
indigo coral
Some need a pickup truck (we do) but most people get it for lols
fair bronze
True, also because they are super affordable in the US
indigo coral
"super affordable" like to 50k
fair bronze
What does a base F150 cost
eager kite
I mean, unless you really need the extra towing capacity, there's not much else that a truck has
indigo coral
yeah
stoic ledge
Still cheaper than a base Golf
indigo coral
lol
fair bronze
lol
It's funny because it's somewhat true
The price difference isn't huge
Compared to our country of course
fair bronze
So $35k for a regular one doesn't sound unrealistic
indigo coral
The base XL trim is really barebones tho
When an AM / FM radio is a selling point ...
fair bronze
Not everyone listens to the radio
stoic ledge
You don't need anything more (:
stoic ledge
XLT is ok, has everything you actually need
stoic ledge
True
indigo coral
yeah I know
I feel bad for cops here tho
Rock hard crap seats, no AC etc because when the departments tried to get some small amenities the taxpayers flipped tf out and literally protested at the city hall
So they had to cancel the order and have them take out the AC and stereo and stuff
indigo coral
people got so angry about it
Well... Here it's typically not super hot
So that was their justification.
fair bronze
Well it isn't here either
indigo coral
"it's unfair they're wasting our tax dollars WAHHH"
fair bronze
This summer on a hot day I was driving my mums car home, 5 minutes before I arrived the AC stopped working
I was all sweaty
All because of the last 5 minutes lol
indigo coral
Yeah. Im personally in favor of the cops having a nicer interior and amenities and stuff - they're keeping our city safe, and we treat them like crap? That's fucked up
fair bronze
Exactly, you don't need to give them the most luxurious thing ever but basic amenities like decent seats and AC should be common sense
You can ruin your back if you're sitting on crappy seats all day every day
indigo coral
yes
Don't need a rolls interior but hell, just the interior from the normal Explorer isn't that bad
The sport has an upgraded one but the Limited/XLT still isn't bad
carmine summit
wait so your PD uses base F150s and not the police spec ones?
carmine summit
they have a bunch for undercover work here
fair bronze
Didn't know
carmine summit
and for towing boats and stuff
indigo coral
Our cops have an f150, Sneaky as all hell
fair bronze
Oh yes that's sneaky
indigo coral
It's the best umarked they have
The lights are virtually invisible and you have to know what you're looking for
carmine summit
I never see them but I saw one with the lights on once
that's the only reason I know they exist
the windows are tinted a bit so you can't see the lights in the side windows, the lights in the grille are really hard to see
indigo coral
Mhm
carmine summit
and some of the normally orange lights flash red & blue
indigo coral
The explorer unmarkeds are really obvious
night current
People who want the cyber truck might also want it to reduce the amount they spend on fuel. Which in this case, just switches to cost for energy, but nonetheless is less to get overall.
You'd spend a significant amount less on fuel with the cyber truck
Especially if it was diesel. Therefore people who have trucks right now, might want to switch for this reason. So it's not like everyone is just getting it as a "fun toy".
It has many valuable benefits over a regular truck.
indigo coral
and obnoxiously drone-y on the highway
carmine summit
nah
there's no way the Cybertruck will be able to tow as much as any diesel light duty truck
stoic ledge
That's a 20+ year old diesel... Modern day diesels are much more quiet
carmine summit
exactly
indigo coral
[x] doubt that they're quieter than a gas car, it's an inferior technology
carmine summit
not inferior and bet
My friend's grandpa has a 2019 Ram 2500 LongHorn with a 6.7 Cummins
it's quieter than basically anything I've been in
indigo coral
Like I've said, if I'm buying a truck I'm getting a raptor
carmine summit
so an SUV
carmine summit
it's a sports utility vehicle
indigo coral
its a pickup truck
carmine summit
a truck is a form of utility vehicle, that's a sports utility vehicle
by definition
indigo coral
no, its a pickup truck
carmine summit
my uncle did some of the engineering on the Raptor before he retired
it is classed as an SUV
carmine summit
a truck is a utility vehicle
stick a 500hp engine in and offroad suspension then it's a sports utility vehicle
indigo coral
whatever.
night current
The cost to fill up a diesel is way more than the cyber truck, it's still a significant saving in price.
night current
@indigo coral @carmine summit the Ford Raptor is classified as a full-size pickup truck. Not an SUV.
stoic ledge
Has a bed -> pickup truck
Raised FWD Hatchback which can't go offroad -> cross-over
Else -> SUV
Sport utility vehicle (SUV) is a category of motor vehicles that combine elements of road-going passenger cars with features from off-road vehicles, such as raised ground clearance and four-wheel drive.
night current
That makes a large amount of vehicles an suv, lol
carmine summit
that makes a troop transport HMMWV an SUV too
stoic ledge
The next line on Wikipedia is important too:
There is no commonly agreed definition of an SUV, and usage varies between countries.
stoic ledge
Oprah voice You're right... And you're right... We're all right!
carmine summit
the crowd cheers. Everyone is right.
civic spoke
I can still get decent mileage out of her.
stoic ledge
pogey 1L/100km according to your fuel economy gauge 🙃
carmine summit
I get like 9 something per 100k
I should be getting closer to 8l/100km but I think I might have a bad o2 sensor
civic spoke
The car's computer says that I got 6.9L/100km on this tank.
But actual consumption is more like 7.5 if I calculate it myself.
58 liters for 780 km's.
desert glen
Metric fuel economy is confusing
Sincerely,
An American
civic spoke
More lower. More better.
Instead of how far you get on one gallon, it's how much fuel it takes to go 100 km's.
desert glen
interesting
stoic ledge
Imperial units are confusing
Sincerely,
Everybody
xD
But yes, I also find x l/100km confusing, 🇳🇱 is one of the few countries which uses km/l which makes much more sense imho
8l/100km == 12.5km/l == 29 MPG US
dense shard
I'd say that the euro system makes more sense.
You can mentally set a distance. How much gas does your car burn per a set distance.
Then again I'm used to the American system of how far will a gallon take me.
indigo coral
mpg makes sense to me, but meh I'm a stupid american
dense shard
They all make sense if you think about it.
Just differences in culture I imagine.
Also using gallons per 100 miles might make Americans realize just how much fuel they use going to work. lol
"oh my car gets 20 miles per gallon... that's not bad at all."
vs.
"Oh shit I use 5 gallons of gas just to get to and from work everyday... shiiiiii"
That's 5 jugs of sweet tea. That's like... a lot of tea.
carmine summit
just because you have a big american vehicle doesn't mean it has to be inefficient
it's perfectly reasonable to have a 3+3 long bed square body Chevy that gets 30+ mpg
I've seen it
dense shard
If you drive it like a granny maybe.
carmine summit
nah ditch the 454
dense shard
So in order to get better fuel economy... you need to do an engine swap.
carmine summit
a very simple engine swap
dense shard
I'm not saying you are wrong, but that's not practical.
carmine summit
an engine swap that needs literally like 2 wires
alternator and starter and nothing else
dense shard
And a new engine, and several hours of work.
Most Americans will just buy a new truck.
carmine summit
I'm not most americans
dense shard
And the rest would swap in a different engine for more power, not more fuel economy.
carmine summit
more torque than a 454 by a lot, and 30 mpg
the engine I'm talking about was mainly used in marine and agricultural applications
carmine summit
nope
dense shard
Do I really need to start adding a disclaimer to all my tongue in cheek observations?