Your insurance shouldn't even be involved at this point.
#cars
dense shard
tropic zodiac
I even specifically told them not to run the car because of the pan, and it says on my records non running, but they admitted to starting it
indigo coral
Also, if thats their direct communication, I'd be sketched out immediately.
indigo coral
Using poor grammar like that in customer relations is usually not a good plan
tropic zodiac
Well I'll talk to my adjuster tomorrow and see what they say about all this info.
I am just very upset rn.
indigo coral
totally understandable
jagged coyote
simone is gonna be there with her truckla
deep osprey
I feel like the segment that they "leaked" was the back, but idk. An open truck bed seems against Tesla's designs around aerodynamics.
jagged coyote
true og tesla pickup
deep osprey
I've been learning the internal components
jagged coyote
but as a student...
jagged coyote
but maybe in the near future, since i'm an engineering student
jagged coyote
that would be so cool
deep osprey
xD Ikr... I'm also really kind of, well
jagged coyote
and since i live in europe, learned german, and the new gigafactory is in berlin...
deep osprey
I've been thinking about the fact that I would need to move to Fremont
But it would be for the best- like an internship there is worth everything
Lol wait did I say work? I meant intern
Work maybe after interning
And hopefully move to SpaceX in time for their Mars 2020+ crafts and projects
I really wanna get in on that
Mars is about to be poppin in July 2020
Lol watch this be the Tesla Cybertruck
jagged coyote
stoic ledge
Rough translation:
I have just been told by Tesla that a few hundred cars (Model 3's) that were prepared for delivery have not passed the technical inspection. Parts have been ordered to repair this. It seems to be a problem with the battery. A number of deliveries have been postponed for our customers.
So brand-new Tesla's didn't pass the mandatory inspection 😂
(it's a tech fora where Tesla leasers share their delivery experience)
wheat hatch
Tesla actually making a mistake? I'm shocked, so used to them being perfect that I forgot they could do mistakes as well.
fair bronze
Hmm
fair bronze
I have two toilets in my home
fair bronze
No I took the bathtub out two years ago
eager kite
yea but u have a 2nd toilet
fair bronze
Yes that's right
eager kite
16.5 hours
fair bronze
990 minutes
stoic ledge
58860 seconds
fair bronze
That's a lot
fair bronze
Gonna be a fun one
eager kite
15.5...
stoic ledge
Not worth it
fathom socket
stoic ledge
cries
wheat hatch
Sad group B noises
wheat hatch
I would say it's the only thing that I personally found interesting about them.
stoic ledge
Opel is going to rally with an EV:
https://www.opel.nl/Media/News/Storytelling/Opel-Corsa-e-Rally-header.jpg
eager kite
nice!
dense shard
More interested to see how they fare with extreme conditions.
night current
That will also be very interesting.
indigo coral
@eager kite what render do you think will be closest to the tesla pickup
stoic ledge
indigo coral
LOL
night current
LOL
vital glen
@stoic ledge more or less
eager kite
I think they are all pretty off
stoic ledge
Definitely like this
dense shard
Model F150
night current
It would look weird, and cool if that's what it legitimately looked like. Lol
dense shard
I'm not expecting anything brilliant tbh.
It'll look like a Tesla, and that's fine.
I wonder what size it'll be.
Midsize, full size, or heavy duty.
"Dear persons with dash cams..... It's perfectly okay to make an effort to actually avoid an accident."
Okay I'm not the only one who thinks that watching all these dash cam vids.
restive hornet
well i wonder how would performance package look like
deep osprey
The Cybertruck is going to have a 240V outlet 
fathom socket
Time for a Toyota joke:
AE86: Boomer
GT86: Zoomer
AE86: Telling GT86 about the glory days of drifting
GT86: Ok, boomer.
indigo coral
indigo coral
I'm just concerned about it being an aesthetic disaster
Tesla's battery and motor tech is great, but I kind of doubt theyve got much experience designing pickups
eager kite
3 hours
indigo coral
yes
deep osprey
@indigo coral I think they have enough insight just looking at what people need for the pickup truck demographic. I figure they assume that the people buying trucks typically do a lot of work like in construction. And with the high voltage battery, they're able to do a lot of things that conventional trucks otherwise couldn't. That 240V outlet on the truck I'm very excited about. It means that people can run welders and other high power equipment off of the truck. Hell, you could probably bring a full on dryer and dry your clothes on the road if you really wanted to. But I think they're going to focus on the utility of the truck and really solve a bunch of problems. In terms of "experience", I'm sure that they can just learn from others
I mean Tesla's a new company and they headhunted people from Apple to make the fastest machine learning computer in the world, the FSD computer
eager kite
deep osprey
I want his norminal hat
It's already dark here in SoCal
I could theoretically autopilot to LA and watch the unveil from afar
night current
Tesla said that everyone wont like its design, them saying that is kind of scary imo.
deep osprey
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509159577946685440/647003290701266954/nasa-mars-rover-2020-mission.png I'm betting on something like this
Minus the spherical wheels
eager kite
What Elon said is that it doesn't look like a standard pickup
so some people might not like it
but, who knows, people might love it
unreal terrace
Isn't the truckla basically a Ute?
unreal terrace
I bet everyone but Americans would buy a Tesla ute
Hmm, maybe just Aussies
That'd be the ultimate test, run Tesla's through the Aussie outback
deep osprey
dense shard
enter your name and email address to watch this live stream.
indigo coral
just put in lol@lol.com or something
dense shard
Great I've become Leonid Brezhnev of Politburo@Soviet.com.
indigo coral
Lol
dense shard
If y'all want Lenin isn't taken yet.
dense shard
I don't know why they asked in the first place.
indigo coral
just to gather info to send out emails
indigo coral
well I voluntarily gave them my email so 🤷
indigo coral
delay prob
dense shard
Profitability?
indigo coral
I was thinking more like a finished prototype of Plaid Model S or something
or Roadster spaceX package
dense shard
2 minutes.
indigo coral
@eager kite you watching?
dense shard
I know. But I won't pass up a chance to have fun at their expense.
indigo coral
xD
indigo coral
here goes
dense shard
ah finally
dense shard
ooohhhhh
slim trout
watching rn
dense shard
panning cameras
indigo coral
this is already more engaging than model y was
slim trout
I am way too excited
indigo coral
wtf
dense shard
oh she's cute
indigo coral
i doubt it
indigo coral
hes not dissing
dense shard
hard to tell which is which
indigo coral
i dont think
indigo coral
if youre not a car person
dense shard
oh my god
dense shard
That's fucking hideous.
indigo coral
thats actually horrid
dense shard
Honda called. They want their ugly back.
slim trout
yeah, for real
indigo coral
honestly the Aztek looks nicer
slim trout
looks like a low-poly mars rover
indigo coral
literally
the Aztek is more appealing
also what happened to aerodynamics?
I really hope theyre kidding.
slim trout
for real
dense shard
Where's the rear headroom.
indigo coral
I really really hope this is just a meme.
dense shard
"it doesn't look like anything else"
slim trout
I hear someone say "Neo from the Matrix"
dense shard
good
indigo coral
thank god others don't look like it
dense shard
I think I heard a chuckle from Rivian.
indigo coral
inb4 stock tank tomorrrow
dense shard
"we created an exoskeleton"
Elon... unibody is nothing new.
Honda does it.
It's not popular.
nvm
Where's teh bed?
indigo coral
doesn't have one prolly
dense shard
Oh boy... he's gonna hit a truck with a hammer.
indigo coral
wooow so special
slim trout
"Franz has a sledgehammer" you have my attention
slim trout
yup
indigo coral
hopefully the sledgehammer is to get rid of the ugly car
dense shard
wow... held up pretty good.
indigo coral
impressive yeah
dense shard
uhhh... no I was expecting worse. lol
indigo coral
I really thought better of their design team
indigo coral
yep
slim trout
rear headroom must be ass
indigo coral
its so god dang ugly its not even funny
indigo coral
apc?
slim trout
what if we shot it? EXCUSE ME?!?
dense shard
"OSHA... ahahhahaha"
slim trout
I want to see it get run over
indigo coral
I'm curious, @eager kite what do you think of it?
slim trout
I see this in some movie about a dystopian future
Elon essentially just said "Built Ford tough my ass"
indigo coral
whod have thought, the Model X looks attractive compared to this garbage
dense shard
Elon is a fucking cretin.
How much can it tow.
Range.
Bed capacity.
"Tesla Armor Glass"
Brought to you by Corning.
slim trout
they built a tank
indigo coral
It looks like what a 4y/o would draw
dense shard
No. I drew better back then.
slim trout
sh... shoot the glass
dense shard
In a crowded stadium?
slim trout
that thing flexed hard
indigo coral
LOL.
dense shard
Franz is stronger than armored glass!
indigo coral
nice failed demo
slim trout
musk said the f word
slim trout
Someone said shoot it. do it dad!
dense shard
Elon... RAM called.
indigo coral
tbh the Rivian looks FAR nicer
dense shard
They think your air suspension is clever.
slim trout
the cringe on Elon's face when the glass failed 😬 🥴
dense shard
heh
indigo coral
Lul
indigo coral
nope
slim trout
this aint goin to good
indigo coral
it was supposed to bounce the ball right back
indigo coral
Isn't that fairly low compared to RAM and stuff?
dense shard
For standard size?
slim trout
he almost looks sick
dense shard
That's pretty solid.
slim trout
That road performance though
dense shard
Fast.
indigo coral
0-60 2.9 LOL
dense shard
No no, the specs are incredible.
slim trout
It's a tank that is faster than a Porsche 911
dense shard
It just looks horrible.
indigo coral
yeah
slim trout
Yeah
dense shard
500 mile range... okay.
slim trout
Tesla Baja truck
dense shard
I want to see it done.
slim trout
That range!
slim trout
Cheaper than a 3!!!!
dense shard
oh here we go
slim trout
Assuming AWD is basic
dense shard
7500 lbs towing rate is pathetic.
indigo coral
no shit elon
slim trout
It was 14000 though, wasn't it?
indigo coral
electricity is cheaper yes
slim trout
He's putting in fluff like a 7th grader does in a presentation on geography
dense shard
Upgrade to an F150... those go much higher.
slim trout
Orders are up!
indigo coral
website crashed
slim trout
Yup
indigo coral
here goes
slim trout
ATV!!!
slim trout
Fuckin WAT!?!
dense shard
Non dampened tail gate
slim trout
I am flipping rn
indigo coral
I hate the truck, the ATV is pretty damn cool
slim trout
The ramp is dope
I'm sure once the truck is painted, it will look better. Rn it looks like sheet metal
indigo coral
lol
eager kite
that was hilarious
dense shard
The Toyota Tacoma is beautiful to me now.
slim trout
kinda same
indigo coral
the Aztek is beautiful now
dense shard
I'll believe it when I see it.
slim trout
$50k for the dual motor
slim trout
idk, tri motor is cool too
dense shard
Chances are a 5.0 F150 is gonna pull on you if you get the base truck.
indigo coral
do you think theyre going to offer it in paint colours?
slim trout
that way you have an you can have a disconnectable sway bar
indigo coral
they implied bare stainless only
slim trout
I hope
nothing on the website yet about color
Musk: "Oh, yeah, we made an ATV too"
Me: I failed NNN
$100 reservation fee on the truck
indigo coral
^
I'd get a Performance Model 3, its a really nice car if a bit sterile, but the ATV is quite cool
dense shard
And I don't even want an ATV. lol
slim trout
ngl, the pre-release 3rd party renderings of the truck looked better than this
indigo coral
YUP
hopefully
they can just release a more normal looking one
and use the same platform
call it the Model U
(U S3XY Roadster)
lol
sell it alongside Cybertruck
slim trout
Or A for the ATV, F for the truck, so they can complete the S3XY AF
indigo coral
Model A is taken
slim trout
then 4
Turns out the site boots you if you take too long
I can no longer view stuff about the cybertruck
indigo coral
Rip
dense shard
Ford has gone after Ferrari over a non-consumer product.
They're more protective than Nintendo.
indigo coral
Model E 
slim trout
for real
indigo coral
no but in all seriousness its ridiculously ugly
slim trout
I haven't seen a link for the ATV yet
indigo coral
slim trout
nice emoji mate
indigo coral
unreal cairn
Not a fan of the F150.
slim trout
I s2g all the vehicles released today are gonna show up in a Maze Runner movie or something
dense shard
The F150 is practical.
indigo coral
^
dense shard
And honestly for what it is...
slim trout
Ram 1500 though
dense shard
meh RAM is nicer.
unreal cairn
It's practical from a cost perspective and daily use, it's just not built well.
F250 and up is all I'll buy.
unreal cairn
F150 = truck body on a SUV chassis basically.
F250+ = built like a real truck.
eager kite
If I had 50k I'd buy this
slim trout
ATV has wireless charging. The driver never plugged it in
dense shard
Has been for years.
eager kite
no he plugged it in @slim trout
indigo coral
I bet their stock falls tomorrow
eager kite
there's a port on the right side in the bed of the truck which he opened and plugged a charging cable into
unreal cairn
Not saying it's not built as a truck, it's how they build it to make it cheap.
slim trout
ope, didnt see that. I was really excited for a minute
eager kite
I'm still laughing over the glass thing
indigo coral
Literally he started stuttering after that lol
dense shard
I think we all felt a bit bad for Elon.
indigo coral
A bit
dense shard
He powered on through bless his heart.
eager kite
dense shard
Cause Franz did make the truck look better with that steel ball.
slim trout
@eager kite I didnt see him pull a cable out of the compartment. That may have been a storage place for keys or something
slim trout
though musk did say it was currently plugged in and charging
eager kite
slim trout
oh, ok, I see the charging cable. Didnt realize it originated from the ATV
slim trout
14k with two though
eager kite
You will be able to complete your configuration as production nears in late 2021. Tri Motor AWD production is expected to begin in late 2022.
2-3 years away
dense shard
plus one for delays.
indigo coral
maybe the internet can bully them into redesigning it just like with the Sonic movie
dense shard
meh
They almost had a total sweep.
That styling is going to turn a lot of people off.
eager kite
not hearing that loud of a crowd complaining about the design
dense shard
Give it time.
indigo coral
^
particularly when mainstream media hears about it
and the boomers wake up tomorrow
slim trout
@indigo coral I was thinking the same thing about redesign
indigo coral
Lol
i do quite like the ATV
tho I worry about water issues
I've sunk my honda up to the handlebars before
dense shard
I mean the worst I can say about the cyber truck is the styling.
Cause everything else is pretty alright.
indigo coral
agreed
dense shard
Competitive 100%
eager kite
I bet they will tweak it a little bit from now until 2021
indigo coral
i f*cking hope so
dense shard
There's nothing they can do to make it look better short of a full redesign.
indigo coral
they must have a HUGE battery in there
to get that much range with such terrible aero
eager kite
lotta people on twitter though saying that they like it
mm it doesn't have that bad aero
especially since the bed is covered by a flush cover
dense shard
Modern trucks aren't that horrific for aero tbh.
RAM's downright slippery in the wind is my understanding.
indigo coral
less aerodynamic than a model 3 or something though
eager kite
oh definitely
indigo coral
and hte 3 gets what, 340 miles on 70 kwh?
dense shard
Which is uglier... Chevy Silverado or Tesla C-Truck?
dense shard
Is it
indigo coral
yes
eager kite
the 3 gets 322 on 75kwh
indigo coral
so if you assume the CdA of the truck is 3x as big, and is claimed to have 500 miles of range, thats one hell of a battery
I bet at least 200kwh
eager kite
so prob 80ish for 250 mile, ~100 for 300 mile, ~175 for 500+
dense shard
I'll be looking forward to see what kind of range they'll have when towing.
eager kite
indigo coral
honestly I am not warming up to it at all
indigo coral
LOL
indigo coral
literally edgy
dense shard
built in bed speakers.
dense shard
As I said. That's the worst I can say.
The rest is my usual issues with electrics.
Though the towing adds a new dimension.
slim trout
One of my friends on Facebook posted "Elon's windows broke, someone call Microsoft"
funny shit
indigo coral
lmao
slim trout
very
dense shard
nice
The ultimate suburban crawler.
And perfect for those active shooter situations for when Timmy MUST go to practice after school.
indigo coral
LOL
eager kite
eager kite
It's actually heavily inspired by blade runner lol
fathom socket
woah
eager kite
fathom socket
sweet
dense shard
What a stupid comparison.
Raptor?
Why not the most popular trim?
Totally arbitrary choices, but ok
eager kite
I mean even their most popular trim is still worse
dense shard
Worse or not
stoic ledge
Tbh I think the comparison with the Raptor is off... Try jumping the Cybertruck to sand dunes, it won't cope with those well. Should be compared with a "normal" trim like the XLT/Lariat with the 3.5 V6 EcoBoost AWD, which is 47k/50k USD
eager kite
I wonder how much a wrap for it will be
slim trout
just watched that video
fathom socket
Hello everyone! I am new to this server and glad to be here! My current build is a 2001 Lexus IS300.
eager kite
welcome
heady ridge
i dont see that hitting aus
no frontal protection, no where to mount extra lighting, looks like they use some rim that you need special tools for, long weelbase
i wouldnt fit into it even to tall by the looks of that roof
eager kite
how tall are you?
heady ridge
plus if it doesnt have good range you would get stuck out in the middle of nowhere
eager kite
500 mile range max
heady ridge
over 6 foot i belive
eager kite
oh you'd be fine
they gave out test drives at the event
lots of people that are on the tall end fit in it
heady ridge
but would it walk 500 miles :P
eager kite
😎
heady ridge
it might make some of the simpson but not all of it
it wouldnt even make it to sydney on a full charge going from brisbane
slim trout
if only they could put a 500+mile battery in the model 3
I would buy one faster than I can set my alarm to snooze
eager kite
they definitely could
but it would be pricey
just buy the roadster
620 miles
Twitter
stoic ledge
The five stages of Cybertruck
- WTF
- WTF that's ugly
- WTF how could anybody design that
- WTF
- WTF it's hideous
fathom socket
Thank you! ^~^
fathom socket
She is pretty fun to drive, but the previous owner was really negelectful... finding new PITA's everyday. Shes a nice daily, but definetly i project im going to build up.
A*
fair bronze
Oh that's a shame... At least you're taking good care of it now
fathom socket
Hell ye 👍🏻
fair bronze
Wishing you many more happy miles with her!
stoic ledge
Lexus IS 
Nice
fair bronze
plush solstice
i like cars1 more than cars 2
fathom socket
Another famed celebrity that hit rock bottom... RIP McQueen
plush solstice
is cars 3 any good
fathom socket
I didnt even see it
night current
Ngl, the new Tesla truck looks kinda dope.
It's weird, but not as bad as the new supra
stoic ledge
Whot?
indigo coral
what?
The new Supra is really good looking, and overall a good car, just kind of not a Supra
Also UX300e in Europe, may come to USA. 250 miles of range. @fathom socket Lexus finally is making an ev that's not a Prius!
eager kite
that's just the first thing that popped into my head when I looked at it
indigo coral
But yeah the UX300e looks sick
stoic ledge
UX300e:
- 204hp (150kW)
- 54.3kWh battery
- 180 - 190 miles WLTP range
indigo coral
I saw 250 miles
stoic ledge
That's NEDC
NEDC is faaaar from accurate
That's why we abandoned it
WLTP is more realistic, giving ± the same result as the US EPA
Model 3 SR+:
- NEDC: 460km ≈ 290 miles
- WLTP: 409km ≈ 250 miles
- EPA: 250 miles
stoic ledge
Ok so official WLTP figures haven't been released yet, but will be roughly 190-220 miles (300-350km) for the UX300e
And yes, the Tesla truck is ugly
fair bronze
I still think it's a publicity stunt tbh
It doesn't even have windscreen wipers
Also, how is pedestrian safety
night current
How is pedestrian safety with a normal truck?
wheat hatch
Yes.
night current
Ngl, I think it's actually cool af. Its unique looking, and has dope features. They understand that not everyone will like the looks though.
fair bronze
Pedestrian safety with a normal truck is way better because it has a soft body
This Tesla thing seems to be bulletproof or something lol
stoic ledge
Sharp edges are perfect for pedestrian safety
fair bronze
Right?
eager kite
uuuh
WLTP is a lot more liberal when it comes to its estimates on EV ranges. EPA is a lot more accurate.
fair bronze
Depends on the speed it's travelling at
eager kite
getting hit by a car in general is pretty bad
fair bronze
That still doesn't make this better
eager kite
lots of corners and bumps on a traditional truck to get hit by as well
fair bronze
It's PLASTIC
fair bronze
This Tesla isn't
eager kite
the bumper on a ford f150 is not plastic
the hood is not plastic
the grill is not plastic
fair bronze
Plastic or a softer metal
eager kite
not really
fair bronze
Something that has some spring to it
eager kite
ok basically the same thing
eager kite
the only concern for sharp angles would be if it hit your head
like, a body blow would not be that bad
fair bronze
The entire side of your body
eager kite
and for it to matter for hitting your body the truck would be moving quite fast already
fair bronze
There is a reason no cars have sharp angles
fair bronze
If you're an adult, yes
eager kite
now in the off chance you are struck by the corner
fair bronze
People have different lenghts
eager kite
it won't matter much
because, you're going to be deflected by it at low speeds
and at higher speeds you're already dead
fair bronze
Obviously
eager kite
so
it's not that much of a safety concern
it would be nice to see them add something to maybe add a barrier so it's harder to hit that part of the truck
but overall it's not a major concern
and, Teslas have a suite of sensors for autonomy
so, if I had to chose a car to potentially hit me I would want it to be a tesla, it probably has the best chance of detecting me and stopping
fair bronze
If Tesla made this you would say it's perfectly safe
eager kite
I mean I do love a good strawman every now and then
indigo coral
the Tesla truck is a meme already tbh
stoic ledge
WLTP is a lot more liberal when it comes to its estimates on EV ranges. EPA is a lot more accurate.
WLTP is more accurate than the older NEDC range which Lexus stated for the UX300e, that's what I said
indigo coral
I hope they unveil a real one later
eager kite
it's definitely more accurate than NEDC
but it still isn't as accurate as EPA rated tranges
eager kite
ugly
stoic ledge
So the Tesla is beautiful but the Raptor is ugly
fair bronze
No that Tesla thing is a beauty
stoic ledge
You have some weird taste Arial
fair bronze
The hell is wrong with you
indigo coral
fair bronze
It's like you want to be controversial on purpose
indigo coral
That's not bad looking
eager kite
it's not bad it's just not good
indigo coral
it's better than cybertruck
eager kite
eeeh
indigo coral
by a LONG shot
stoic ledge
bool isBeautiful(Car * car) {
if (car->brand == 'Tesla')
return true;
else
return false;
}```model S and model 3 are really really nice looking, model X is pretty nice, but WOW the truck is bad.
fair bronze
To be honest I prefer the look of the old F150 Raptor
And that V8 sounds amazing
Even though the V6 is better lol
indigo coral
I like the headlights of the new gen better
stoic ledge
I prefer the looks of the newer one with the 6.2 V8 xD
indigo coral
Otherwise yeah
fair bronze
@stoic ledge Same
fair bronze
Oof
indigo coral
turbosupercharger when
dense shard
Pedestrian safety standards are a thing.
indigo coral
fair bronze
Why not both?
dense shard
While they may not exist in America, they are a thing in Europe.
stoic ledge
Turbo + Supercharge + Electrify... is this a Volvo?
indigo coral
Lexus GS 
dense shard
If I buy a pick up truck.
fair bronze
Yeah make it a V8 supercharged+turbocharged hybrid
dense shard
It'll be a Ford or RAM.
fair bronze
I'm not too sure about FCA quality
dense shard
RAM remains a more solid choice than GM.
indigo coral
Pickups are the only thing Ford is executing well at the moment
dense shard
That being said.
indigo coral
Everything else is a shitshow
dense shard
The new inline 6 GM developed is pretty amazing.
fair bronze
The current Fiesta is nice
dense shard
USDM or EDM Fiesta?
fair bronze
I'm European
dense shard
ah, then I agree.
indigo coral
I've not seen the new gen Fiesta
dense shard
I've seen it in pictures.
indigo coral
Considered getting a Fiesta ST when they were on stupid discounts
dense shard
It's like the old Fiesta, but better.
fair bronze
indigo coral
that doesnt look bad
fair bronze
It isn't
indigo coral
The RS was cool, but expensive
fair bronze
Focus RS?
indigo coral
Ye
fair bronze
It was pricey but really good
indigo coral
mhm
fair bronze
Also way better resale value than the Mustang with the same 2.3 Ecoboost
indigo coral
I almost convinced my parents to get me a Chevy Bolt when they had stupid lease deals, when like 0 were selling
fair bronze
Yeah they sold like crap
indigo coral
(75$ a month, 0 down, 15k a year mileage)
dense shard
Focus RS.
fair bronze
Nice for A to B transport
dense shard
The car that was better than a Subaru WRX STi.
indigo coral
The Bolt is pretty decent tbh
dense shard
The car Subaru didn't worry about because Ford kills all things good.
indigo coral
Kind of an aesthetic disaster but a pretty good EV
fair bronze
Does Subie even make a WRX STi at the moment?
dense shard
yes
indigo coral
it's old tho
dense shard
Still in production.
fair bronze
Oh it's still the old one
indigo coral
Like the Camaro is ancient
dense shard
And by virtue of being the last man standing.
fair bronze
dense shard
Still relevant.
Unless we count the Type R.
2nd place isn't a bad place to be still.
indigo coral
Isn't the Camaro discontinued?
indigo coral
Thought they gave up on it?
fair bronze
fair bronze
I think they sell alright but not great
fair bronze
This was a mistake
dense shard
Instead of making a car people want, they're making halo cars only a few buy.
"Look it's a decade old, badly styled, and heavy as fuck, but it has 800 horsepower, loooooooook"
fair bronze
The new Camaro looks like it could've been released 10 years ago
dense shard
tiny windows kill it for me.
This also kills it for me.
Is that a marble counter top?
Do they offer granite? 😂
fair bronze
I really don't know about this one
eager kite
it's not marble
dense shard
Then Tesla has not met passenger safety standards. lol
eager kite
the test driver said it was compressed paper actually
dense shard
That's somehow worse.
eager kite
kind of interesting
fair bronze
So cardboard
eager kite
no....
eager kite
no it's not either of those
fair bronze
I mean I can still mess around
dense shard
Just don't spill your drinks on it.
night current
You can make a nice PB&J in the new truck
dense shard
Lest it come apart.
night current
Good deal!
dense shard
Perhaps they'll offer a stainless steel countertop option? 🤔
night current
Ngl, I hate the wheel of the new truck so much.
I dont understand the point for making a wheel like that. Its inconvenient to use.
dense shard
It won't make it to production.
The wheels, seats, and steering wheel rarely make it to production.
dense shard
Sounds right.
plusses of a stainless steel truck
what about the cons
Stainless steel is a bitch to keep clean.
eager kite
I mean the seats look pretty similar to the model 3 seats
the steering wheel is a question mark though
dense shard
I can't see the steering wheel make it to production.
dense shard
That's gonna turn so many people off.
fair bronze
They should've made the dashboard look like this if they were going with that wheel anyway
dense shard
The Tesla truck has and will change no minds.
dense shard
Moving away from body on frame is going to turn off classic truck buyers.
Electric isn't helping.
dense shard
It won't help if you bang your truck up.
fair bronze
That too
dense shard
Towing doesn't appear to be an issue.
Though all the talk of "oh we just made a unibody stronger"
I'm curious to see how the weight will compare to other pick up trucks.
Chances are it'll weigh the same if not more.
Rendering any unibody benefits moot.
fair bronze
We'll see
eager kite
obv it will weigh more just from having the battery pack
the unibody wasn't to save weight
it was to increase interior cabin size
fair bronze
It's better for interior space + handling abilities
dense shard
Modern trucks are plenty spacious inside.
eager kite
and larger and more inefficient in doing so
dense shard
That hasn't stopped Ford from selling more F150s than anything else on the planet.
eager kite
ok?
dense shard
The average buyer doesn't care about the inefficiency of cabin space in a pick up truck.
They just know by god it burns dead dinosaurs and makes vroom noises and isn't no liberal Pry-us.
Also that sail sided bed is gonna be a bitch to use if you want to load things from the side.
fair bronze
To me it feels more like a toy for rich people (especially with that quad bike in the back)
Even though it's not super expensive
dense shard
The base model will be a toy for the rich.
Cause I can't see the base model hold up to pick up truck things like towing.
Doing that stuff in a fossil truck already kills the economy. Can't imagine what happens to 250 miles of range when you're towing 5000 pounds.
fair bronze
It's not made for heavy duty work, even though it has massive torque
dense shard
Just recreational work is gonna be enough to prove it's viability.
night current
I meant steering wheel, I did a stupid. Lol
dense shard
You said wheel singular. I assumed steering wheel.
night current
Thank you for assuming correctly. 
But yeah, I'm hoping that it wont be that way in the final production
fair bronze
It would be cool but not practical
dense shard
Best play for Tesla to win over the truckers is to install a vape that blows vapor on diesel trucks.
Roll coal meets vent vape!
eager kite
Yea I never said that they did it for consumers to care about efficiencies of interiors
fair bronze
Like a smoke screen
dense shard
exactly
eager kite
it was so the truck had a decently sized interior while keeping the size of the car down
dense shard
It'll be like a modern MBT.
night current
Didnt Tesla want to make a deal with the military also for their truck?
dense shard
Only downside is it'll attract Subaru owners.
I don't think the government is looking to Tesla right now.
I think the military likes their diesel engines.
eager kite
DARPA likes electric though
dense shard
Doesn't hurt they've essentially adopted a single unified fuel type as well.
DARPA dabbles in many things.
night current
Understandable, I dont think Tesla is at the point where using EV's are efficient in the military.
eager kite
yea but darpa declassified some tech they were working on for wheels that had 100kw motors in them
eager kite
so you could get a jeep that had 550hp at the wheels, plus it's normal engine
that thing would be haulin
they've continued development on it as well
dense shard
I've never seen anything military haul.
I think they'd rather have something that never breaks.
eager kite
it isn't one of those projects where they work on it for 2 years and throw it away
dense shard
Great, then they can keep developing it.
eager kite
yea then they especially would be interested in electric drivetrains
way less stuff to go wrong
dense shard
Chances are it won't be Tesla who'll be building for the military anyway.
eager kite
oh yea probably
dense shard
But Oshkosh or Lockheed.
eager kite
military industrial complex doesn't like it when outsiders get a slice of the pie
fair bronze
Elon has too many other things on his mind anyway
dense shard
Reminds me of the Aztec tent.
night current
^
eager kite
for camping it would be pretty nice
dense shard
I'll stick to my tent.
eager kite
integrated electric stove
indigo coral
hey I just realised my LED headlights don't overload my electrical system and make the radio cut out at high volumes anymore when the car is off
big yeet
night current
Nice!
dense shard
Mont Bell tent with a nice compact gas stove is all I need.
indigo coral
the old halogens were ridiculously inefficient
dense shard
Just need to buy a good mattress pad and sleeping bag.
night current
I'm pretty excited that you could use the tesla truck to power heavy duty tools.
dense shard
I think Rivian is offering the same feature.
fair bronze
I wonder if the bed is actually long enough to sleep in
night current
That's also pretty nice.
indigo coral
The rivian looks much nicer if they ever come to market