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#cars
desert glen
I want another volvo
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when my BMW is gone in Feb i'll go to the audi dealership
desert glen
I miss my wagon, but at the same time, my Focus is leagues better
stoic ledge
I like the XC90, but I also kike the X5
fathom socket
with my volvo
stoic ledge
But I can't afford either of them, so xD
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couldn't afford the Q7 you said? 😄
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^ i'd totally do that
desert glen
V70R
indigo coral
TT RS
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V70 isn't produced anymore
indigo coral
5cyl turbo
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isn't it replaced by the V90
indigo coral
audis are nice
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audi's are for cocks
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or V60
desert glen
V90 is an SUV
stoic ledge
It's not
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no
stoic ledge
XC90 is a SUB
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V90 is an estade
stoic ledge
SUV*
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estate sorry
indigo coral
I'd get an RS6 Avant
stoic ledge
S90/V90 is sedan/Estate
desert glen
I was thinking of the xc90 : /
stoic ledge
V60 is nice (:
All new Volvo's are actually
Although I'm not that fond of the V90's rear
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the father of my wife when he saw my XC90
stoic ledge
So I'd get the V60
indigo coral
RS6 Avant > V90 😈
stoic ledge
Alpina B5 > RS6
indigo coral
no^
fathom socket
but then he said it in "brussels"
stoic ledge
Reeeeeeeeeeeeee Brussel
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for the dutch speaking under us "is tees dan een koesj vu ne sukkelair"
desert glen
There's a kid that i work with that has a V40R
stoic ledge
V40R (?)
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the salesman was like eurm they start around 35K 😄
stoic ledge
laughs in Dutch car prices
desert glen
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There has never been a V40R, R-Design tho but that's a trim
Uhm lemme check
Holland idk, The Netherlands I can check ;)
desert glen
(maybe its a fake, idk)
fathom socket
yeah the netherlands
in belgium we all say holland so my bad
and not "Nederland"
stoic ledge
I punch my Belgian friends in the face if they ever say that
xD
V60 starts at €42.695 apparently, which isn't that bad
fathom socket
still a gap of 7K
stoic ledge
Yes
desert glen
That like $50k US...
stoic ledge
Yes
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Also that's the T4 190hp, I think the Belgian lineup starts with the manual diesel?
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a friend of mine has ordered a V60 in T8
stoic ledge
Oof
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also in bursting blue
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so they will know when we are out together
stoic ledge
My uncle has a new V60 T5 in red, which is also very nice
fathom socket
first a V60 and then an XC90 in the same color 😄
My wife likes the V60 / XC60 in red
for some reason she is in to red cars now
indigo coral
I quite like the Volvo XC40 but it's really bloody expensive
stoic ledge
Red cars are nice
indigo coral
Particularly for only getting 250hp
stoic ledge
Not as expensive as here 🙃
indigo coral
It's about the same size as my current Lexus RX
stoic ledge
Cheapest XC40 T5 is €57k
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Yeah but that's the T3 probably
3 cyl
Where the V60 gas models start with the T4 190hp 4 cyl
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I tought almost all engines in the volvo line up where the same
stoic ledge
Nein, the T3 is a 3 cyl xD
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T5 - T8
indigo coral
for the price of a fully optioned XC40 you could get a used Stinger GT and a Model 3 SR+ if you found a snazzy deal on the Stinger
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they only added turbo's
stoic ledge
All above is the 2.0T 4-cyl
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or a turbo and a supercharger
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Turbocharged - Supercharged - Electrified
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electrified is also turbo and supercharged
stoic ledge
T8 = T + S + E
T6 = T + S
T5 = T
T6 TE = T + E
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I have both + an electro motor
stoic ledge
Oui je sais
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They also have stuff like B5 now, in the XC90
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Which is T5 + mild hybrid
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like BMW's
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Oof somebody has seen the news of the PHEV X5 today
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Yup
desert glen
wha
indigo coral
I like plugins
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probably Tesla batteries
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that friend that bought the V60 in T8 asked me if I was scared
it could also happen to us
no it wont.... my car is sitting at the dealer for like 2 months now
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indigo coral
I'd rather have a Model 3 and a Stinger GT
desert glen
yikes
indigo coral
yikes
fathom socket
I'm confident in saying that my car won't light up at random 😄
indigo coral
there was a big thing with bmw fires a few years ago
fathom socket
or the volvo dealership was already gone now 😄
stoic ledge
3 weeks old xD
indigo coral
yeah im not saying thats related
fathom socket
I have an authentic F30 that had that fire hazard
and there was a recall on my car
indigo coral
mhm
desert glen
If you think about it
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and they didn't let me know
desert glen
Every car is on fire when its running
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untill I came in for maintenance
thats not correct
a Diesel car isn't
the way a diesel engine works isn't by burning the diesel like a petrol
stoic ledge
Compression Pogey
desert glen
but the fuel still, ignites
desert glen
same difference
fathom socket
you need a spark to let something explode :p
stoic ledge
Spark? Chevy Spark!
indigo coral
was a recall for it
stoic ledge
Volvo also had a recall for a fire hazard not that long ago iirc (;
Some plastic part in the diesels
fathom socket
that was why I have a black interior
Still in belgium you can only take the ventilated comfort seats in black
stoic ledge
Not too shabby xD
desert glen
Does the computer eliminate wheel spin by syncing the electric motor output to the power going to the front wheels?
fathom socket
I don't know
I hope so
I still have to take delivery of my car
Still 82 days
of waiting 🙂
and then i can tell you if it does or not
desert glen
Seems like there's a lot of managment that goes into an eAWD vehicle
stoic ledge
Yeah ofc xD
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I know that 0 - 100 km/u takes around 5.1 seconds 🙂
eager kite
Twitter
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@indigo coral Pogey
My cars 0-100km/h time also contains the 5 and the 1
Just not in that order
xD
eager kite
15 sec?
fathom socket
most of the time you wont get to 100
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Basically
eager kite
Or 1.5 sec
stoic ledge
I cruise at 135-140, so I do get up to it xD
fathom socket
my morning commute takes me around the ring around brussels
stoic ledge
No not 1.5
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to to E19 towards antwerp
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Ah, well mine is the E314 from the Netherlands, but I get off before Lummen
That part isn't that busy xD
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yeah I lose most of my time from where I live in Dilbeek
to the E19
once on the E19 I can drive a casual 130 km/u
and trips in between fuel stops in my bmw = +1000Km in general
stoic ledge
Yes, because diesel
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something I will never achieve with the T8 😄
stoic ledge
Depends on how much you plug it in
stoic ledge
Ah that's a shame
fathom socket
because i'm parked on the street
stoic ledge
Yikes
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and I will not run an extention cord from my place to my car 🙂
stoic ledge
That's a big yikes
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LPG is the best fuel #changemymind
dense shard
No worse than gasoline.
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Cheap to run tho xD
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not shure how it will cope with the Polestar engeneered upgrade
🙂
polestar optimized upgrade sorry
stoic ledge
Gn 
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alarm goes off at 5 AM
stoic ledge
Big yikes
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so still +- 6h of sleep
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Go go go!
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Oof
indigo coral
nice
dense shard
We'll see how that goes.
Though Berlin-ish area doesn't really strike me as the cheapest or most effectively place to build a car plant.
Should have been Poland.
cheaper to say in the least.
Then again it should boost the economy a bit.
vital glen
@dense shard Should have put it in Greece
dense shard
Agreed.
eager kite
apparently the new giga is being built near the new airport
you know, the one that's been delayed for a decade
dense shard
Getting updates via email about my car is a nice touch.
dense shard
"Jaguar Land Rover Is Looking To BMW And Geely For Potential Partnerships: Report"
ah shit, here we go again.
Also apparently the Camry and Avalon will both offer AWD soon.
night current
Hmm, AWD would be pretty nice for those cars.
dense shard
Mind you it is a demand based system like in the RAV4.
So you won't be doing any performance driving here.
night current
Ohh, true. Would be good for someone who lives in a snowy area though.
dense shard
That's the idea I imagine.
dense shard
Frontier pickup and Armada SUV recorded monthly increases in October of 27 and 31 percent, respectively.
Nissan's woes continue, but the ancient shitbuckets continue to bolster the automaker.
indigo coral
Nissan only makes shit buckets.
dense shard
I've heard the new Kicks is pretty good.
And frankly the Rogue remains quite competitive.
It's not like the styling of the competition has leapt ahead. They're all kinda plodding along copying each other's homework, but changing just enough to look special.
Unless they're Mazda. They just print their homework on premium paper stock, and in blue ink. They're expecting better scores and rewards, but forgot the teacher is only grading for content, not presentation.
indigo coral
Lol
dense shard
"2020 Mazda CX-5 Gains New Features, Prices Rise Slightly"
It's already too expensive for what it is.
indigo coral
I also find mazdas to look nice when theyre new, but they look outdated very quickly.
dense shard
They look fine, but after taking a more critical look at the new 3...
It's evolutionary vs. revolutionary.
If not regressive.
indigo coral
I find evolutionary to be good, like bmws. they look modern for quite a long time
dense shard
It's heavier, less sophisticated, and still running old tech.
indigo coral
see: e60 5er, e92 coupe, etc
dense shard
It's styling over function with Mazda... to their detriment.
dense shard
Both BMW and Mercedes have advances in their generations.
The new Mazda is a step back if anything.
dense shard
They promised a revolution.
indigo coral
Mercedes tends to redesign in a big way every generation
dense shard
I'm talking about Mazda still.
indigo coral
ye
dense shard
BMW's styling is stagnant, their interiors are bland, and their move towards comfort makes me think they're not a driver's choice anymore.
They're coasting on their rep... just like Honda.
indigo coral
I find the new BMWs nice, but I'm in the vast minority.
dense shard
I find BMW's new ethos to be blah.
They've consolidated ALL of their cars onto 3 platforms.
One FWD, one RWD, and the Z4/Supra.
So electric, gas, hybrid... it'll be one of two platforms with BMW.
indigo coral
the i3 is a cute little car but too damn expensive
dense shard
And discontinued.
indigo coral
an optioned out i3 is like 65k, which is more than a Model 3 Performance and dangerously close to a base MOdel S
oh?
really?
dense shard
All those cool i-cars? Dead.
indigo coral
wtf
dense shard
Yeah, the i3 is a dedicated platform.
indigo coral
I thought they commited to producing it till 2023
dense shard
Perhaps?
indigo coral
good, needs to be more normal to have mass market appeal
It'll kill the Model 3 if its any good
dense shard
If I want mass market appeal in an electric I'd get something else.
indigo coral
people want the brands, hence why the Stinger isn't selling (and might not come back for a second generation)
dense shard
Cheaper.
indigo coral
People are surprisingly hooked on "Cool" brands
so if BMW or Audi or Mercedes came out with a real electric car that had real production numbers, it would take away like all the Model 3 sales
brand chasing is stupid
dense shard
oh right
Forgot there are new Trump tariffs that might go into effect this week.
Meaning that my car might become super rare in the next few months.
Up to 25% tariffs on EU and Japan made cars.
My car is good, but it's not 5000 dollars more in price good.
But it would make Mazda price competitive for once.
dense shard
Okay, but why Japan tho?
indigo coral
no idea.
dense shard
The investments made in the US has been huge.
dense shard
I'd say Japanese investment in America has been greater than the Americans in the past 30 years.
It's on topic.
And I'm not making any inflammatory statements.
Fact is we're looking at dramatically more expensive imports over the course of the next few months.
indigo coral
mhm
dense shard
And automotive tariffs have never had any rationale behind em.
dense shard
The 25% import tax we have on trucks was in retaliation to poultry dumping in Europe.
indigo coral
mhm
dense shard
A few years ago some group was calling on a 100% tariff on pretty much ALL motorcycles being sold in the US over something totally unrelated.
woe be unto petrol head everywhere.
Can't enjoy our vices without some cheese head making it expensive for us. lol
indigo coral
but I already spend a bunch of (my parents) money on gas, so that's not really feasible
idk
cheeseheads
xD
dense shard
lol
indigo coral
Considering I get 18mpg that's pretty bad xD
It's not like I get 35mpg (that would be nice though)
vital glen
@indigo coral No u
indigo coral
If you take an arteon over a stinger you're dumb
dense shard
I'm not smart, but at least I know the Kia will last longer.
carmine summit
Not that big
indigo coral
Has tons of space
carmine summit
The Arteon is more comfortable too
indigo coral
but also much less powerful and less reliable
carmine summit
With me being me that's fine
indigo coral
Also idk how long VW's warranty is
carmine summit
Long enough
indigo coral
10yr powertrain warranty is nice to have though 😛
carmine summit
If I bought an Arteon I'd probably void the warranty before it ran out
dense shard
VW ended their 7 year warranty
stoic ledge
laughs in 2 year EU warranty
Where Kia has 7
- RWD, so that's a no-brainer really xD
dense shard
Practically speaking the right answer is to get the Toyota Avalon.
indigo coral
Avalon has uninspiring handling doesn't it? Or is it decent?
dense shard
It's a luxury car.
So probably not stellar.
Likely not bad.
And they do have the TRD package if you want more edge to your handling.
indigo coral
My grandpa's 07 RX has absolutely abysmal steering
Lol
It's truly terrible. So light and disconnected and not particularly accurate
It's better in my '99
dense shard
Crossovers aren't known for handling.
indigo coral
No, but the 07 is like... Particularly bad.
dense shard
tl;dr: Still an Avalon, but cooler.
Camry TRD is much cheaper tho. Only 32k.
And you get the last midsize V6 on the market.
Funny how Toyota is the last man standing with big engines.
indigo coral
G70 has a V6 and it's decidedly midsize
dense shard
G70 is considered luxury.
indigo coral
Stinger is closing in on large
Can you get a 6cyl in the A4/3er still? Or are they 4 bangers only now?
dense shard
A4/3 are absolutely luxury cars.
Those are not Camry competitors. Though I'm certain someone at Toyota just became very flattered.
dense shard
Why does the G70 with a manual cost 3000 dollars more.
indigo coral
I didn't even know you could get one with a manual
The only trans I saw was the 8HP when I configured one
dense shard
only with the 4 popper
indigo coral
oh
rip
would you rather have the manual or the 3.3L v6?
wow, the Audi configurator is terrible
stoic ledge
a) can't get the Avalon here
b) not RWD
indigo coral
Stinger is optional RWD xD
stoic ledge
Base Stinger is RWD, isn't it?
indigo coral
think so?
but nobody buys that
cause you cant drive it in the rain or anything
A base 440i xDrive costs as much as an optioned out Stinger
lmao
stoic ledge
Not here Pogey
indigo coral
yeah the bmw is far cheaper there
dense shard
And far less optioned.
A loaded Kia/Hyundai in the US are on par with a stripper BMW.
indigo coral
thats what i meant
dense shard
Also I'd rather have the V6 tbh.
indigo coral
mk
dense shard
or... hmmmmm
indigo coral
would you rather have the slow g70 with a stick or the fast g70 with the zf 8hp?
dense shard
man I'd have to drive the manual tbh.
oh please
It's hardly slow.
It's not as fast
But slow? Hardly.
indigo coral
its like 8 seconds to 60 isnt it?
dense shard
6.6 seconds.
stoic ledge
A fully optioned BMW 440i xDrive, with all the bells and whistles including a tow hitch and individual colors/interior is.... €104.462
Stinger GT 3.3 V6 TT AWD is... €99.995
Difference is not that big tbh 🙃
stoic ledge
I'd get the manual G70, because manual xD
dense shard
It looks better.
dense shard
I'd seriously have to test drive it to see if the manual is worth it.
stoic ledge
Emissions tax on the V6 is still f*cking high, even on import
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FeelsBadMan
dense shard
Yeah the EDM vs. USDM is always fun to discuss.
Shit we can afford here is just... not attainable over in Europland.
indigo coral
imo paddles are fun cause you get to control the car and tell it what to do within reason without the potential to stall it out or break shit, and be able to just swap back to letting the car do it whenever
dense shard
or small cars 😂
stoic ledge
Well it's fine in Germany, Belgium, France etc, because they don't have the extra tax we do
dense shard
"Oh yes the Honda Fit is a nice small car"
MK: uhhhh, yeah about that
stoic ledge
1 Europe my *ss
dense shard
"we can go smaller!"
indigo coral
yall have tiny cars
dense shard
Almost jealous.
dense shard
bbl
indigo coral
nah but a 5 seater sedan is not oversized imo
but we don;t have emissions tax
how does it work trying to fit a big family into a Corsa mk?
lol
stoic ledge
I mean look at this parking spot, it's like too small for a Fiesta xD
Uhm I've fitted 5 people in the Corsa xD
indigo coral
comfortably?
stoic ledge
I was
indigo coral
😂
We fit 6 in our Explorer and went on a road trip
Was fairly cramped but it was ok
stoic ledge
Now Corsa is smaller on the inside than the old Corsa tho
indigo coral
course it comes back to that americans drive further
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indigo coral
our trip was 890 miles to see grandparents
and it was like 1/4 of the way across the US
stoic ledge
Our trip was 7 miles to see grandparents
indigo coral
My other grandparents are ~10 miles away
stoic ledge
My other grandparents are infinite miles away
indigo coral
😦
stoic ledge
I've decided the new Corsa is too small for me, so my next Opel should be the Insignia (Regal)
indigo coral
youre buying another opel?
stoic ledge
Maybe
We shall see
It will still take 3 years or so before I buy a new car xD
But the Corsa F isn't on the list xD
indigo coral
Hmm.... I'd get another Lexus but not an RX
I love mine but the new ones are ... interesting ?
xD
I'd get an RC F if I could get it half price, or a GS F
RC F is too impractical though
stoic ledge
I don't think they are bad, but resale value stay too damn high here xD
indigo coral
lexus?
stoic ledge
Yes
indigo coral
no, there's a couple
theres one at the lexus dealer that quoted me 7600$ for a new trans
indigo coral
can get it done at a normal shop for 1k including the new trans
stoic ledge
Nice (:
indigo coral
though
there are upgrade parts you can get
i'd get those installed while putting the new trans in
stoic ledge
Ok so a German 2017 GS F imported to here will be over €90k (100k USD) 😮
stoic ledge
Rtm?
indigo coral
remote touch mouse
stoic ledge
AH
indigo coral
last gen lexus infotainment
the new one is the RTC and is a mousepad
the older one has a little mouse you push around
but you never have to use it
indigo coral
its not great
but you have hard buttons for heated/cooled seats, and climate control
and steering wheel buttons for radio
(or just ask Alexa)
stoic ledge
What uses Alexa?
stoic ledge
Don't have one
stoic ledge
Lol why xD
indigo coral
I use it for smart home stuff, setting timers and alarms and reminders, playing music, etc
indigo coral
i also have an Echo Auto
stoic ledge
Omg the cheapest 2018 Insignia (Regal) with the awesome seats is €22.5k 👀 Cheap af
indigo coral
eh
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Cheapest 200hp Insignia is 29k feelsbadman
indigo coral
How about a 500hp Insignia 👀
stoic ledge
Never made
indigo coral
America sells an 840hp boat
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Demon 
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691?
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Yikes
indigo coral
its something like that
but they just upgraded it
and also its not allowed to go on the dyno
stoic ledge
Ow ow wait, I have a new funny Tesla story
indigo coral
properly
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So a friend of mine with a Model 3, I've talked to you about it before (delivery issues etc)...
So his sentry mode bugged out or whatever, keeping the screen on at the same image for many, many hours... So the image is now burned into his screen
:Pogey-1:
indigo coral
did he try restarting it?
pushing both steering wheel buttons
cause LCDs can have image retention but they shouldn't be able to burn in
stoic ledge
Uhm the burn-in did get less, yeah just like image retention
But it's still not gone
indigo coral
Did he try doing a hard reset?
indigo coral
weird
stoic ledge
stoic ledge
Idk happened yesterday, I don't know if he contacted Tesla
indigo coral
If it doesn't go away he should get them to swap out his display.
stoic ledge
Yeah told him the same
eager kite
yea he should try doing a hard restart if he hasn't already
carmine summit
Yeah it's been in the works for years
I've been watching the build on YouTube it's sick
jagged coyote
I remember watching when an "un-named" shipping company lost the 4 rotor
jagged coyote
I mean, rn, the intake tubes need welding (but i bet they are working on it rn) and it pretty much needs tuning and body
carmine summit
it runs and drives though
jagged coyote
nvm for the un-welded intake, it is welded, didn't see the 1320 vid when i said that
stoic ledge
Official EuroNCAP results: Mazda CX-30 highest result "Adult Occupant" ever
dense shard
Higher than even a Model 3?
👀
Also Rich Rebuilds got a BMW i8
Lucky lucky lucky
indigo coral
Doug called the Performance 3 the best Tesla
civic spoke
It's nice to have the winter shoes sorted for my car.
They had to replace the valves on the tires as well, which is a bit of a bummer. But oh welp
indigo coral
with how little it snows here, winter tires are a fat waste of money
thus, all seasons 😂
mostly we just get rain
civic spoke
It rained most of the day today.
It was really bleh.
Anyways. I'm gonna head out to repark my car. Swapping to the winter tires this weekend.
stoic ledge
@dense shard yes, 99% vs 98% xD
dense shard
We've been trying to find the "best score."
I didn't know EuroNCAP actually assigned scores.
Seems a bit silly considering there's always a curve as new safer cars come out.
It's kind of why I prefer IIHS' scores.
but hey, top score
indigo coral
either way the safety tests are decent but not the be all and end all
stoic ledge
NCAP scored different areas seperately and give an overall star score
dense shard
IIHS is similar.
Can't go wrong with most modern top rated cars.
After a point it boils down to luck.
midnight peak
carmine summit
VWs make the best sleepers
They're not that hard to make fast and not many people realise that
dense shard
I sincerely doubt that VW had a stock engine or transmission.
eager kite
Twitter
indigo coral
tbh, I can agree w/ you on that one.
midnight peak
carmine summit
@dense shard that was probably either a 2.0 16v or a VR6. Probably had a DSG transmission. Obviously it was modified, but it's not hard to make 600hp with a turbo VR6.
dense shard
"Tesla will face challenges from Ford next year"
Just as the Wrangler will?
I've stopped caring about upcoming Ford products. I don't have the patience to wait this long. If the Mach E is actually dropping next year I'll be amazed.
warm sparrow
dense shard
I doubt it.
For the time being I wanna do I-10, then do Highway 1 up the California coast.
indigo coral
It's a shame there's nowhere in america when you can just haul ass like no tomorrow
Highest speed limit is 85 for a brief stretch of road in Texas
Highest speed limit I've driven myself is 70
stoic ledge
I've driven 85 today (:
indigo coral
I get about 14mpg @ 70mph
Lmao
Sitting at 3200rpm and the aerodynamics of a filing cabinet will do that to you I suppose
stoic ledge
Oof 3200rpm @70 is higher than my car
stoic ledge
Yeah but longer gears
stoic ledge
Depends on the final drive, but yes that's not low
indigo coral
Final drive is 3.08:1
dense shard
I'm running at maybe 2500 at 70.
indigo coral
IDK if 3.08 is good/bad/whatever
indigo coral
Mine is;
1st: 3.93:1
2nd: 2.19:1
3rd: 1.41:1
4th: 1.019:1
Final Drive: 3.08:1
civic spoke
I wonder if my fuel consumption will get better with the winter tires.
Since they are slimmer tires. 195 instead of 205.
But to be fair, I haven't checked the pressure in my summer's for a good while now...
stoic ledge
1 3,73:1
2 1,96:1
3 1,30:1
4 0,95:1
5 0,76:1
Reverse 3,31:1
Final drive 4,29:1
The gears are quite long..
civic girder
dense shard
Can't find the gear specs for my car.
All I've found so far is, "yes, it has a transmission"
indigo coral
Lol
dense shard
okay found a test sheet from car and driver.
Notes: "CVT? Possibly Toyota has finally made it not suck."
cheeky shits they are
stoic ledge
I'd love to check in the Dutch database, but the only manual it contains is the 1.2 Turbo for the 2019 Corolla xD
dense shard
Could be y'all didn't get a manual 2.0?
stoic ledge
Yeah we didn't xD
dense shard
I know a few markets have reserved that engine for top trims.
And what kinda bozo shifts gears themselves in a top nacho car?
<- Besides this one.
stoic ledge
I would
indigo coral
Have fun in traffic :P
stoic ledge
With the traffic I encounter, not an issue tbh
dense shard
The 'rolla shifter is easy enough to work in traffic.
stoic ledge
Same with mine
dense shard
Man C&D is just bashing the Corolla.
The Civic is vastly better. Despite the manual being feature sparse at the same cost.
Honestly the Civic doesn't ride that much better than the Corolla.
The only thing I'd give to the Civic is more room in the back seat.
"If you want driving fun, get a 1.5T civic or a GTI."
Ah yes. A GTI. If I want fun I have to spend an extra 6k for a barren German box that will break within the warranty period.
Or I can get a Civic... just as barren, twice as ugly, and likely gonna put more gas in the oil than in the combustion chamber.
(assuming you can even find a manual Civic hatchback.)
civic spoke
Internet tells me that my (E46 320i) gear ratio is:
1st Gear 4.23 :1
2nd Gear 2.52 :1
3rd Gear 1.67 :1
4th Gear 1.22 :1
5th Gear 1 :1
Final Drive 3.38 :1
Reverse 4.04 :1
TIL - I can go faster in reverse, than I can in first gear.
stoic ledge
Same 🙂
civic spoke
I kind of want to put my car on a dyno.
But ha-ha. It is still having its electrical issues. So gotta fix that first.
stoic ledge
A BMW with electrical issues? Never!
||xD||
civic spoke
I might see if replacing the alternator, belt, and tentioner fixes it.
dense shard
That's it? Nice.
civic spoke
No idea, honestly. I just know that the issue comes up at 5,000+ RPM.
Took a multimeter and checked by the battery, and it was all over the place when I revved it.
Will have to check it again.
indigo coral
My lights flicker, but they always have and always will
interior lights and stuff
headlights used to, but after the new LEDs they don't.
civic spoke
My headlights straight up go into overdrive when I reach the limit where my car does funky stuff.
indigo coral
lol
civic spoke
No, but really. It's like I put on my high beam or something. I know it did my rear lights as well at some point, no idea if it does it still.
It legit burnt out all of my four headlight bulbs the first time it happened. Low and high beam.
indigo coral
oh shit
civic spoke
At least I have fog lights that I can use and be legal.
indigo coral
my headlights should be good for the rest of the cars life lol
civic spoke
LED?
indigo coral
yeah
civic spoke
They still fail, tho. Which sucks, since they are supposed to have a lifetime of like 100k hours or something.
indigo coral
My car is already 20 yrs old, they'll probably last until it's uneconomical to repair
civic spoke
My car is getting up there. 😆
carmine summit
I've thought about upgrading to LED headlights but headlights alone are over $100
I had to replace one headlight already and I paid free for it so I'm not gonna upgrade yet
the next few I need are gonna cost me free too
civic spoke
I kind of want to upgrade my headlights as well.
First I really just want to replace the plasic lens with a fresh one.
indigo coral
Was like 50$ for an upgrade kit for my car, slotted right into the enclosure and has made a huge difference at night
barren shale
I needed a new headlight housing assembly 5 days after I got my car because the leveling hardware broke
The assembly (sold as one entire piece) was like $1500
brisk veldt
junkyard?
civic girder
if only people bought the new Corolla
dense shard
They are.
chrome grail
@dense shard I have a 2010 GTI, it's been a great car.
dense shard
I'm actually happy to hear that.
With VW it's too much with extreme opinions imo.
I honestly couldn't afford to take the risk I might get a dud. Also the fact the Corolla hatch was built in Japan was a huge selling point for me.
chrome grail
I've had mine for the last 90k miles or so? Got it with around 60k
put 23k on it the first year I owned it.
Only issue I've had with it was when I needed to clean the valves at 110k, issue with all DI cars that don't have any port injection really.
Did the work myself, has been fine since.
carmine summit
people give VW a lot of shade for reliability but if you look at what's causing the CELs it's usually minor
anything from a bad coolant sensor to the gas cap being on wrong
raven owl
dense shard
Honestly the carbon shit was a deal breaker for me.
Which disqualified pretty much most cars. Most dealerships just gave me a blank look over the issue.
So much for common knowledge.
civic spoke
@dense shard EV's are great IF, and that's a big IF you have a spot to charge it at either of your end destination.
You either want to charge it while you're at home, or while you're at work (or both).
An EV wouldn't work for me because of that reason. No garage with charging, and can't charge it at work. 
dense shard
I'm happy with fossil power.
civic spoke
It's public parking here, we have about 10 meters to the closest spots. But ti's luck of the draw if you get those spots.
And the outlets in the garage is trash. Decades old, only good for engine heating.
civic spoke
Rowhouse. Or whatever you want to call it.
@eager kite Something similar to this.
That's the area where I live. So running a cable to the parking isn't viable...
And the garage is at the beginning of the street.
eager kite
ah ok
well as more and more cars are EV, hopefully residential planners add charging infrastructure to their sites
civic spoke
We have talked about fixing up the garage to renew the gates and add better power lines so that people could install EV chargers.
fair bronze
So when is Lamborghini going to file a copyright claim
vital glen
@fair bronze Next week
fair bronze
Nice
fair bronze
It just looks like a heavily modded Huracán
vital glen
Yeah
fair bronze
Now that I think of it, it kinda looks like Rockstar is going to add it to GTA soon
eager kite
well, they were targeting 2021 for launch, so prob will see some hardware this year (2020)
eager kite
Lambo doesn't have copyright on any car design semi-similar to any of their cars
fair bronze
They do if it looks like a copy of their products
eager kite
but thankfully it isn't so
fair bronze
It's a fucking ripoff mate
eager kite
of what
fair bronze
Like I said, Lamborghini Huracán
fair bronze
But of course you don't see the similarities since it's electric and that makes you hard
fair bronze
Not at all
fair bronze
Yes it does, it's just smaller
eager kite
way more aggressive body on this car than the Huracan
ok they have a tiny one near the bottom
this car has a tiny one in the bottom and a massive one behind the door
spoiler also very different
fair bronze
It looks like a Lamborghini but in GTA
eager kite
also the backs of the vehicles are very different
fair bronze
Dude I'm not saying it is a 1-to-1 perfect copy
eager kite
it's barely similar at all
eager kite
tbh it looks closer to this than the Huracan
in terms of nose shape and sharp angles
fair bronze
I'm seriously doubting if you are trolling or not
eager kite
I'm just saying the only thing that the car really has in common with lamborghini is having their logo on a badge and having the windshield flush with the hood at the same angle
fair bronze
The rear looks like a Veneno
eager kite
yea it's kind of similar to that
vital glen
@fair bronze Rockstar finna sue
fair bronze
They're good at that
civic spoke
I got my winters on now. Car feels strange.
Also, I did the classic mistake of not checking rotation direction before mounting the first two tires.
fair bronze
That might be why lol
civic spoke
Nah. I changed them around after I did the first two tires.
fair bronze
Winter tires always feel different
civic spoke
They probably just feel weird since they are so much softer than my summer tires.
And slimmer.
vital glen
@civic spoke Real winter tires are just treads
civic spoke
Yeah. Super soft compared to summer tires.
chrome grail
EVs don't really work for me, honestly. Range to cost is out of whack for my needs. I do 90 miles round trip just for work, no charging near work, and I regularly have places to go after work.
People that live in high density areas like cities and metroplexes they work for, but much of the US is wide open, and pretty far away. So for now it's a no go.
civic spoke
If you had 150~200 mile range, and ability to charge at home. Then it would work for you.
I drive 60+ miles round trip to get to and from work. And we just don't have a place to charge at, else I would honestly consider it.
I could honestly do with a Renault Zoe or something like that.
indigo coral
I mean a Tesla has 300 miles of range in the LR model 3, and superchargers all over the US
fair bronze
300 miles if you're lucky
indigo coral
Model 3 LR is rated for 325
fair bronze
I always wondered how the range degrades over time as the batteries wear out
civic spoke
The range is always "up to".
fair bronze
Mhm
civic spoke
Range greatly decreases in the cold.
civic spoke
I'd probably still be able to use a Renault Zoe, the early models have a rated range of over 200 km's.
Even if 40% was lost due to cold, etc. I'd be able to use it as a daily to get to/from work.
fair bronze
Depends on how far you have to travel of course
civic spoke
It's 100 km round trip.
fair bronze
For normal boring A to B driving I wouldn't mind driving an electric car
civic spoke
Yeah, same.
fair bronze
I'd just want a normal car for fun
civic spoke
A used Zeo can be had for under 85,000 SEK here in Sweden. Which isn't too bad.
civic spoke
Not sure, honestly. I know that many rent out the battery pack or something?
fair bronze
Renault does
magic arrow
indigo coral
Lexus Remote Touch isn't even bad
fresh bluff
maybe someone can educate me. Let me set up the question..... did you know on police laser speed readers theres a laser warning? did you know that those lasers with the warnings operate at a specific frequency? did you know that many car safety systems house lasers behind the rearview mirror which operate at the same freq as police? did you ever stop and think "man, arent these lasers just PEW PEWING all over my eyes either as the car approaches you or bouncing off your mirror into them? i run a laser detector thats close enough to my eyes and it goes off with many of these cars, which means the beam is likely hitting my eyes
what makes these systems using a laser freq which has a warning for eye damage safe to use anywhere near humans, especially at a long distance where the beam(s) are much wider?
wondering how nobodys been sued yet? or maybe they have and i dont know?
its the same issue if the cops do it to your car as well, however thats a very infrequent exposure, versus a laser car following you for a distance
eager kite
you just explained why it isn't dangerous, because it's at a long distance @fresh bluff
ever heard of the inverse square law?
also, uh, I don't know of any cars that have lasers behind their rear view mirrors
fresh bluff
Volvo and Mazda are big users
I don't know the models off hand
I have not heard of that
eager kite
indigo coral
wtf lmao
eager kite
as the distance away from the source increases, the intensity goes down extremely quickly
indigo coral
You think your eyes gonna get roasted by cruise control lasers or whatever?
eager kite
the reason why police scanners have eye safety warnings on them is because if you looked right into one at point blank range you would damage your eyes as the intensity would be quite high
indigo coral
yes^
eager kite
But after like 5 feet they aren't dangerous anymore because of the inverse square law
and yea lidar/radar systems on cars are not at a high enough intensity even at the source to hurt you
fathom socket
Guys I can't be dreaming right ?
fair bronze
Almost heaven...
fair bronze
fathom socket
We have regular cars 100% here
fair bronze
Same here
fair bronze
Isn't that most of the time with cars like that
Unless you live in Hollywood or something
fathom socket
More common super cars are on popular places I think
Virginia is okay for living just in a thousand years we will never see something like that
fair bronze
I've got an R8 driving around in the neighbourhood and there was a guy with a Ferrari 360 but he got caught for money laundering
fathom socket
Haha
fathom socket
indigo coral
another one? Nice
stoic ledge
GX?
fathom socket
2014 gx460
stoic ledge
Fancy
flint sable
@fathom socket That's an SVJ, not trying to sound like a know-it-all but i can tell because of the shape of the wing
fathom socket
Indeed
It's a svj that's more insane
Finally did it
$26,280
93k miles
ultra luxury package
im gunna keep this thing for ever
ftw
vital glen
@fathom socket I will run over your prized plasma with a vw thing
fathom socket
vital glen
and you payed 26k usd for your automobile of choice?
stoic ledge
The interior looks quite.... Dated to be honest, or is it just me?
fathom socket
oh yeah all the lexus products look dated and their nav looks antique
but that's not really what you buy a lexus for in my opinion
vital glen
I am seeing near me gx460s for 26k at half the mileage
fathom socket
is it the ultra luxury package 2014?
vital glen
premium 2014s
stoic ledge
Bwah the 2014 RX for example does look much less dated imho
fathom socket
i suppose - but i think they sell way more of those so it gets updated more often
than any other lexus model
vital glen
Is fulltime 4wd?
fathom socket
oh yeah roll detecting air bags
automatic locking front diff
17 speaker mark levinson sound system
air suspension
sport and comfort buttons
vital glen
SPORT AND COMFORT BUTTONS
fathom socket
fathom socket
it's got a cooler in the arm rest 
fathom socket
the truck opens to the side
vital glen
and changes when it shifts gears
vital glen
I AM ASKING ABOUT THE SPORT BUTTONS
fathom socket
oh
vital glen
I HAVE TO KNOW