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carmine summit
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a camera gives a 2D image, radar gives 3d positioning and stuff

dense shard
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You can use dual cameras.

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That's how Subaru's systems work.

indigo coral
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^

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Having now driven a Tesla, theyve certainly got a lot of work to do

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nice car but its got some flaws that would drive me f*cking insane

dense shard
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such as?

indigo coral
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the auto brights are absolutely dreadful

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the steering wheel has this annoying scratchy stitching on the back so you can't really hold it at 9-3

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the car is plenty fast but just kinda feels sterile, doesn't have much personality

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i'm glad I got to drive it, and it handles very well and feels pretty good quality actually, but it wasn't exactly what i thought it would be

dense shard
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okay, the steering wheel would kill me, ngl

indigo coral
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yup

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also the steering wheel is T H I C C but thats something i could probably get used to

stoic ledge
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From my experience, the Model 3 is definitely fast in a straight line, but it's only a A to B car, to get you there and nothing more. It's not bad in any way, but it's definitely not engaging to drive.

(My expert opinion 😛 )

dense shard
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My understanding is electric cars are a bit lacking in personality.

indigo coral
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agreed

dense shard
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You lose out on engine noise and the quirks of ICE.

indigo coral
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certainly a very nice car, but just felt sterile

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i can totally understand why people buy them thuogh

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very quiet and comfortable

dense shard
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Transport appliances.

indigo coral
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don't take my criticisms as saying the car is sh*t or whatever, I just have a tendency to notice the little details/nitpicks

dense shard
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Amusing considering Toyota is trying to make the new Corolla interesting.

stoic ledge
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I can totally understand why people get them as free company cars around here xD But I would never buy it with my own money

indigo coral
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(i still want a Stinger)

stoic ledge
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@dense shard have you seen the new... Yaris? 👀

dense shard
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The EDM one?

stoic ledge
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Yes

indigo coral
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better looking than the old yaris

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but i'd never get one of those xD

dense shard
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It looks newer, but old at the same time.

stoic ledge
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Well same xD

indigo coral
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the late 2000s i think yaris was so ugly

dense shard
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They missed out on the headlights.

stoic ledge
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And yeah it looks more like a Facelift model

dense shard
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They should have gone for the Corolla style.

stoic ledge
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Should be more fun to drive tho

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Rear is especially odd imho

dense shard
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I'd consider buying the EDM model tbh.

indigo coral
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those

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dreadfully ugly

dense shard
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I'm not blown away by the USDM Yaris.

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Mazda's styling didn't translate well to small car.

stoic ledge
dense shard
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oh I dig that

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That's funky

stoic ledge
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Yeah from this angle it's good

dense shard
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Front is a bit conservative, but still good stuff.

stoic ledge
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Can't find the other angle

indigo coral
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yeah looks nice from that angle

dense shard
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oh no

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Honda redesigned the Fit/Jazz.

stoic ledge
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Yes

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I've seen it

dense shard
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...

stoic ledge
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Well it's not more ugly xD

dense shard
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I mean...

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uhhhhh... Honda finally remembered to add front end styling to their cars.

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I'm happy they finally remembered.

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The Fit was never good looking tbh.

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The new one is more crossover-y.

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I'm honestly not a fan of Porsche.

stoic ledge
dense shard
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Besides adding a 60k price premium?

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I have a Corolla.

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...

stoic ledge
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Would still get something else, Aston Martin for example when I'm spending that much money

dense shard
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And there's the other reason I don't like Porsche.

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I can afford a Honda.

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I will talk about it because Honda is a relevant brand.

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Okay, what exactly is your purpose here?

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You are starting a shit because I didn't immediately extol the virtues of Porsche?

stoic ledge
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Aston not luxury? Yikes, someone should tell them, they shouldn't be making those grand tourers which er all about luxury and comfort

dense shard
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I understand the differences of brands.

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I'm quite happy with my Corolla regardless.

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And chances are if I had 100k to spend... I'd still buy a Toyota.

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I'm just not sure why you insist on talking shit.

stoic ledge
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Because his parents have a new GLE 350e, which means he's better than us

dense shard
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I find the new Honda Fit quite interesting.

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Not everyone has a desire to tune.

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Some of us wanted a fun cheap car with a manual transmission.

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The Supra engine is pretty damn solid.

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It has the chops to make power. Toyota didn't fuck up by using a BMW engine here.

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The new Fit reminds me of a Citroen.

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It's got a very funky French design.

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That's what bugged me. Looks a bit like a C4?

stoic ledge
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Does it?

dense shard
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It reminds me of something French.

stoic ledge
dense shard
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Also they've styled it more crossovery.

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Well future of Honda appears to be moving back in the cute direction.

stoic ledge
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looks at Honda e

Yes

dense shard
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The new Fit only adds to that.

stoic ledge
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Waaaay too expensive tho

dense shard
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oh, yeah, oof

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Ask Arial, and they'll say next year.

stoic ledge
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Ask Arial

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Lol

dense shard
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Ask me... potentially never.

stoic ledge
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^ with Monte

dense shard
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I wouldn't take Tesla at their word tbh. They usually have a year delay if not more.

stoic ledge
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if they still exist by then

dense shard
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Resellers?

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Like second hand shops? Or are these brand new cars?

stoic ledge
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Tesla Stores

dense shard
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I see.

stoic ledge
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Ah I see

dense shard
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I'd call them resellers...yeah.

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I think so?

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All these claims are under ideal conditions tho.

stoic ledge
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Ionity pogey

dense shard
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Both can do a bajillion watts of charging juice for free.

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But the reality is no.

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VAG still has to roll their charging network out before they can even pretend to flex.

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And in the US they need to double that.

stoic ledge
dense shard
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What was Porsche's claim?

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800V at 350A?

stoic ledge
dense shard
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Dunno why, but I'm not really feeling that styling.

stoic ledge
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800V at 350A == 280kW

dense shard
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Better than Tesla.

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But I digress.

stoic ledge
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It's alright

dense shard
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lol

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It's the best looking electric for sure.

stoic ledge
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Btw Mercedes does have one EV

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The EQC

dense shard
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EQC?

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EQC looks alright.

stoic ledge
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Nono Taycan Turbo S

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Because EVs have Turbos

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Lel

dense shard
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But it's a current Mercedes product. I've made my opinion known on their styling.

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Mercedes should draw on their heritage a bit more tbh. They need something more blocky and with more presence.

stoic ledge
dense shard
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Better than the mustang. lol

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Joking included... how about that mustang styled electric crossover?

stoic ledge
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Haven't seen it yet

dense shard
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It's like Ford googled things that are popular, and decided to build the top three terms.

stoic ledge
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It's a Ford model

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Isn't Mustang a Muscle Car Company LOL

dense shard
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It is.

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It's neither electric nor a crossover.

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The proportions scream crap packaging for electrics.

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Unless you want a frunk you can bone in.

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You've got Nissan and GM in the electric car space as major players.

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Mitsubishi is an also ran.

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Nissan's product cycle is somehow worse than Ford's.

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Qashqai is a decent enough car.

stoic ledge
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Nissan Leaf with non-liquid cooled/heated batteries pogey

dense shard
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But it's long in tooth now.

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Altima and Maxima are fairly new, but sedans.

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Nissan's entire crossover line up is old apart from the Kicks.

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Faster than the Tesla Model S.

stoic ledge
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Qashqai/Rogue Sport is a 2013, still not that old.. 6-7 years is quite normal

dense shard
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4-5 years is normal.

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7 is pushing it.

stoic ledge
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looks at Fiat
500 2007-now

xD

dense shard
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I'm sure you can do more than one lap in the Cayman.

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Tesla had heat issues.

stoic ledge
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Just issues*

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xD

dense shard
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hmmm appears 6 years is the new norm.

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Can't go wrong with that NA soundtrack... that is still non-turbo?

indigo coral
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oh hey are we talking shit?

stoic ledge
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Yes (:

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Idk xD

indigo coral
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good car but not really a supra

fair bronze
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^

indigo coral
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its a bmw 🤷

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im sure its fun to drive and it looks fairly nice

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but its not really in the legacy of the supra

fair bronze
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Nice car, great performance, but it's not a Toyota, let alone a Supra

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Basically a Z4 tuned by Toyota

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It even still has the iDrive system

indigo coral
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meh, fake vents don't usually bother me.

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(i'm saying i don't mind them cause my next car has like 29 XD)

dense shard
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Likely a base model

indigo coral
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holy shit Tesla crushed earnings wtf?

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They're up twenty percent after hours

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@eager kite you win this round 😛

eager kite
civic girder
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Why buy Tesla when you can buy Dorito?
🤔

indigo coral
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I'm impressed that they made a profit

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considering they havent gotten rid of Musk yet

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lool\

vital glen
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@indigo coral Up 20% where

indigo coral
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wym

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stock market

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20.15% rn

vital glen
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interestingf

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said it earned $143 million in the third quarter, or 80 cents a share, compared with $311 million, or $1.82 a share, in the year-ago quarter.

Adjusted for one-time items, Tesla earned $342 million, or $1.91 a share, compared with adjusted earnings of $3.02 a year ago.

indigo coral
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yeah, not bad

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considering they were forecast to have a significant loss

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they mentioned that the GF3 in china is like65% cheaper than they expected and running ahead of schedule

eager kite
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Model Y predicted to start production summer 2020, limited production of semis as well

indigo coral
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did they mention Roadster?

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tbh if that is delayed its probably gonna be fine

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i'd rather have the Model Y out earlier

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xD

eager kite
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nah they didn't mention roadster

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that's probably moving back to 2021

indigo coral
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ooh theyre producing pre-production 3s at the Shanghai factory already?

eager kite
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yea

indigo coral
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nice

eager kite
dense shard
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Now to keep it up.

unreal terrace
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Speaking of electic cars, anyone ever happened on a car that drains it's battery over night?

eager kite
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all electric cars do that @unreal terrace

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if they aren't plugged in*

unreal terrace
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This isn't one, sorry if I was unclear X)

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My gfs 2003 320i just had it's battery replaced and today it's dead again

eager kite
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oh

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uh

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either your battery is dead

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or something in your car is using a lot of energy

unreal terrace
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It shouldn't be, I bought a brand new one last night

eager kite
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do you have a multimeter?

unreal terrace
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Yeah, I'm gonna go out and measure it later

stoic ledge
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^ something is using s lot of energy xD Installed something new on the car? Otherwise a grounding issue probably

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Or the alternator is dead

unreal terrace
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Nah the starter runs and engages, but I can't hear the fuel pump... thonk

stoic ledge
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Check the fuses

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Maybe it's blown

unreal terrace
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its fine, im checking relays and the pump itself

fair bronze
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That does sound like something is shorting out

unreal terrace
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So if the fuel pump is bad, it should make a circuit right?

civic girder
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depends on how the fuel pump relay is setup

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the fuel pump on my car went bad, but it didn't drain the battery at all

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just didn't work so I couldn't start it

indigo coral
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Is it possible to replace timing belt yourself?

civic girder
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depends on the car/engine and how hard it is to get to

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you'd also have to be careful not to turn any pulleys or it would screw up your timing (iirc/afaik)

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I've replaced belts on my RX-7, but that's a rotary and it doesn't have an actual "timing" belt

indigo coral
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Im just wondering because as far as i know its only been done once

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and the car is 20y/o

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I can't find a straight answer as to whether its an interference engine or not

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the internet wholly disagrees with each other

dense shard
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I'd err on the side of caution and assume it is interference.

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I assume all modern car engines are.

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As for actually doing the timing belt... it can be done.

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Do you want to do it yourself... that's up to you.

indigo coral
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well it will easily cost a thousand dollars to pay someone to do it

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so yes i want to do it myself

carmine summit
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buy a repair manual

indigo coral
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prob will yeah

carmine summit
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you can probably get a haynes manual for your vehicle and they're good for that from what I've seen

indigo coral
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i know its a royal pain in the arse but I'd rather learn how to do it myself then pay some mechanic fat stacks

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cars are mechanical devices, at least this old of one

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its not some magic blue smoke unintelligble sh*t

carmine summit
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they don't go in depth as much as some other manuals but they usually show timing belt replacement

indigo coral
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yeah

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ive heard its good to do water pump and whatnot while you're in there

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(while youre in there ftw)

carmine summit
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yeah, if the water pump is driven by the timing belt always do both of them

indigo coral
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i'm sure it is, they made many stupid decisions on this car

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good car but idk wtf the engineers were smoking

carmine summit
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I mean water pumps are pretty often driven by timing belts

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the water pump won't stop pumping unless you have bigger issues

indigo coral
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most cars don't have the oil filter unreachable underneath the exhaust manifold

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ahem

dense shard
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At least your oil filter isn't hidden behind an aero shield.

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Not a fan of chrisfix.

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Not a huge fan of his presentation style.

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A person of excellent taste.

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Yes.

stoic ledge
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if you dont get this reference, fuck you.

So everything you like, we must like too

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i see the kind of person you are

dense shard
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I'll stick to RCR for my shitposting car channels.

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I don't go around at parties making references and telling people "fuck you" if they don't get it.

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Yeah. I forgot to pick up my manpons and concrete flavored ben and jerry's.

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Dunno, I don't drive a Honda.

stoic ledge
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Probably, yes

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No Honda guys here though xD

dense shard
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Honda gals? 👀

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I'd rather be a Toyota guy than a Mercedes guy.

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Then better start saving up that allowance.

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Anyway... Why should I like Chrisfix?

stoic ledge
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Because you must! Everybody must like him!

dense shard
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how far can a football be launched with an airbag.

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Yes... tutorials.

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As far as automotive youtube goes, I prefer reviews and narratives.

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Savage Geese, Throttle House, and/or RCR.

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Gotta have a bit of B R O W N in your life.

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If I watched the channel with more views I'd be watching PewDiePie.

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I watch content that amuses me, not content that's more popular.

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Why should I use views as a metric for what youtube video I should watch?

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hold up

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5mil views in few weeks
5 million views 1 week

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The turtle is faster because 5 minutes down the line he's further along than the hare is 1 minute in.

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And you haven't answered my question.

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Why should I let views dictate what content I watch?

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I am?

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I didn't come into this channel telling people fuck you.

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uhuh

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You really dragged out this sarcasm.

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To the point of asking if I'm on my period.

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And then insulting any Honda owners.

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Are those also just jokes, bro?

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"i didnt know men had that time of the month too"
"or are honda guys always like this"

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lol I got blocked.

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Despite the fact I haven't gotten a single DM.

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But like the Telsa, has only one gear.

desert glen
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Having a black car is nice

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Until you detail it

indigo coral
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lol what

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Monte_Carlo didn't do anything wrong lol

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if you watch content solely based off the number of views it has you're a sheeple

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sorry executive, You're the asshole here.

carmine summit
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yeah monte carlo literally just stated his opinion and asked why he should change it

dense shard
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I have given up on trying to avoid swirl marks.

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I'm wondering if I should bother with a better sealant/wax, or go with my usual nufinish job.

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I did everything right for my first wash, still go swirlies.

stoic ledge
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I just let my dad wash it Pogey

wheat hatch
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Careful @stoic ledge, you might get banned for that emoji.
.monkaS.

dense shard
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I'll stick to washing my own car.

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I hate doing it, but it's my car.

stoic ledge
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@wheat hatch thnx (:

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And yeah I also wash it myself, but often my dad offers to wash it... Who am I to say no xD

wheat hatch
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No problem bruddah.
.puggers.

indigo coral
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I try to routinely wash mine

desert glen
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It doesent help that i have no overhead cover

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So its just a pain to wash in general

dense shard
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nice focus

night current
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Anyone know why I can get a 2012 ford fiesta for $3k with only 120,000 miles on it? Seems so weird but I've seen a bunch of them for that price.

desert glen
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What an oddly specific set of parameters

dense shard
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Could be rentals finally being sold.

desert glen
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I want a fiesta st for shits and giggles

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But then i could just get a focus st

night current
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Maybe, but some are just single owners that arent businesses... Its just weird that they are so cheap.

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Like, I really want a Miata, but I've seen so many Fiestas so cheap for the same price, and it has heated seats, ac, etc... Its just insane

dense shard
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I wanted something bigger than the Fiesta.

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Sadly the Focus ST is out of production now.

stoic ledge
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I can get a new one... for just €50k pogey

tight cypress
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pogey

stoic ledge
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glare

fossil imp
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thats in a lada iirc PogChomp

vital glen
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@tight cypress what is this god awful

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Playboy

dense shard
eager kite
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Curious to see the specs for it

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and pricing

rotund matrix
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interesting

dense shard
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Remember. It's a crossover.

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The only thing that will shock me is if Ford releases this before the Model Y.

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Who knows... maybe it will be a good car. I just find the concept of Mustang styled electric crossover to be... questionable.

indigo coral
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inb4 slow eco crossver

dense shard
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It needs 2 things here.

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Price and range.

indigo coral
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and at least some modicum of performance

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doesn't have to be a Model X beater or anything but should have at least 300hp

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it's a mustang, not a fiesta.

dense shard
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It's not a Mustang.

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Mustang styled, but Ford has been pretty clear on this.

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We're probably about to witness the return of the Thunderbird.

eager kite
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Needs at least 220 miles of range

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150 kw charging

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and be under 40k

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that would be acceptable

dense shard
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Ehhhh, raise the stakes

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300 miles

stoic ledge
eager kite
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they won't get 300 miles

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for that price

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the i pace has a range of 235 miles and it's 70K

stoic ledge
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> implying the results of other brands guarantee different results in the future

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Also: 235 mph "range" lul Didn't know range = speed stuck_out_tongue

eager kite
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shh

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And yea, I'm not seeing ford producing any new tech in the electric space which would give them any advancement in efficiency

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It's easy to make a car with 200 miles of range for 70k, it's hard to do it for 40k

stoic ledge
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It's easy to make a car with 200 miles of range for 70k, it's hard to do it for 40k

looks at e-208, Corsa-e and Zoe

wheat hatch
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.monkaS.

eager kite
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@stoic ledge All of those are on the WLTP standard

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which is horribly optimistic on real world range

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converting to WLTP to EPA you divide by 1.12, so the e-208's WLTP range of 211 is really 188 miles under EPA

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Corsa-e of 205 miles is 183 miles EPA

stoic ledge
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Tactically leaving out the Zoe wink

eager kite
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still getting numbers m8

stoic ledge
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WLTP 390km == 240 miles WLTP == 215 miles EPA

eager kite
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yea for the latest version

stoic ledge
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Well yeah duh, not looking up older versions

eager kite
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all of these cars however aren't SUVs

stoic ledge
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e-208 and Corsa-e are also brand new

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> SUVs

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Those are the worst

eager kite
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they're worse than these mini cars you're grabbing

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also

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none of the cars you picked have fast charging

stoic ledge
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PSA does have the e-208 and Corsa-e in SUV form (DS 3 e-Tense)

eager kite
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those will get worse range

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but this is why I brought up the i Pace

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it's a SUV and gets pretty poor range despite the high price tag

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SUVs just have more drag, so you need more battery to go farther, which means higher prices

stoic ledge
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PSA EV's have "fast" charging up to 75kW

eager kite
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yikes

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that's pretty low charging rates

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especially for the Zoe

stoic ledge
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Don't forget they are -40% cheaper compared to the cheapest Tesla here

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Yes, the Zoe charging is meh

eager kite
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sure, but aren't really competition

stoic ledge
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Ofcourse not, but you can't expect the world for -40%

eager kite
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like, only urban Europeans would buy the cars you listed

stoic ledge
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If they really get (nearly) 300km real-world usage, for most people it will be enough

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(in Europe)

eager kite
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sure, but they won't travel with it

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cause it would be a pain in the ass in comparison to a Tesla

stoic ledge
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I still know people who got a Model 3 as company car, yet they still rented a car to go on vacation with

eager kite
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ok?

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I know people that road trip in their M3 all the time

wheat hatch
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Oh yeah, the BMW M3 is a really nice road trip car. 10/10 would take a trip in one.

eager kite
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@wheat hatch

wheat hatch
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.PogChomp.

stoic ledge
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I'd rather get the Alpina B3, more of a long distance cruiser

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pogey

eager kite
eager kite
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I mean you can make that argument for basically any car...

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so

jovial laurel
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i agree with foxy. its like saying a ford mustang eco boost and a ford mustang GT are the same the have different interiors bumpers and engines

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exsactly

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exactly*

stoic ledge
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Well the Performance Model 3 did get... a carbon fiber spoiler lip

jovial laurel
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true

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but thats barely any difference

stoic ledge
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I know xD

jovial laurel
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someone could buy a non performance Model 3 and add a carbon fiber spoiler lip yourself and save a decent amount of money

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it needs to be a bigger difference

eager kite
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X to doubt @tropic silo

jovial laurel
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Imo it would be better to have the P100D model s with a better interior and maybe a refreshed exterior look to have a difference between the P75 and the P100D. I do appreciate all of the progress Tesla has made for electric cars, however i dont like all of there cars looking very similar

eager kite
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I mean I get your position that you can change a few things about the body of other cars

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but you can change the power and range of teslas depending on the specs you order

jovial laurel
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you wouldn't be able to tell the difference without looking at the badge

eager kite
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well, besides the mods people do to them but yea

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and adding the spoiler didn't unlock the faster speed alone

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he just got tesla to increase his top speed

stoic ledge
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I know a guy which got a in-stock Model 3 Long Range, with as dealer the Performance option which adds the Circuit Mode.

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SO now it's a Performance

eager kite
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on the software side or the hardware side?

stoic ledge
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Idk, only software iirc

eager kite
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yea cause I'd be surprised if they changed the hardware

stoic ledge
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Well tbh Foxy, is you get a 1.0TSI, 1.6TDI, 1.5TSI, 2.0TDI Golf, you can all get them in the same trim, all looking the same

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And yeah the Model 3 is still a Long Range on VIN, with the Circuit Mode enabled

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I've asked him

jovial laurel
#

XDDD

stoic ledge
#

1.0 TSI are most Golf here xD 115hp (there's also a lower one, but nobody buys that one)

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Just like the Focus 1.0 EcoBoost (100/125hp), A3 30 TFSI (same 1.0TSI), Astra 1.0T (105hp) etc

jovial laurel
#

up here? US?

stoic ledge
#

Golf? Can't get it with a 1.4 TDI or 1.4 N/A

eager kite
stoic ledge
#

Foxy is flag_nl

jovial laurel
#

Netherlands?

stoic ledge
#

Yes

jovial laurel
#

ah

stoic ledge
#

Me too btw

jovial laurel
#

very cool information

stoic ledge
#

pogey

jovial laurel
#

i am from the US and currently living abroad for my parents work

stoic ledge
#

open_mouth

jovial laurel
#

?

stoic ledge
#

(we can't use emotes or we get muted)

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(so we type them out)

jovial laurel
#

clever

stoic ledge
#

(yes, it has happend multiple times)

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pogey

jovial laurel
#

nice

wheat hatch
#

Everyone knows that Tesla is the superior car brand.
No other car brand is better than them, obviously.
Our lord and saviour Elon Nut is going to conquer Mars, and then the world.
With his self driving, self igniting, banana powered cars, they shall plaid mode themselves into a windmill and create infinite power.

stoic ledge
#

Yes (:

wheat hatch
#

Sad quattro noises

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.omegalul.

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.kek.

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Emoji! .monkaS.
Ban hammer inc.
.omegalul.

narrow reef
#

fucking

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PRIUS

stoic ledge
#

oof

wheat hatch
#

Expect the unexpectable!

stoic ledge
#

Unexpect the expectable!

narrow reef
#

who said l lost lol

indigo coral
#

yes

dense shard
#

Oh, Tesla 3 aero mods.

#

That's the good shit.

dense shard
#

Love my car nearly 3 months later.

jovial laurel
#

im going to assume car photography is okay

dense shard
#

It would really bum me out if anything were to happen

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I'm fine with car pictures

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Share your love

jovial laurel
dense shard
#

Ohhhh

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Nice

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Is that a gto?

jovial laurel
#

figured youd enjoy the monte since your name is Monte_Carlo

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yes it is the last one

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@tropic silo yes

dense shard
#

I do like me a Monte Carlo

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Dunno why

jovial laurel
#

i do other photography but thats not allowed here so id have to send it somewhere else

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not sure where tho

dense shard
#

We don't have a photography channel

#

Weird

jovial laurel
#

right?

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especially thought thered be on since Brandon

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but i guess nah

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oke

#

@tropic silo they're up if you wanna see them

dense shard
#

I'm personally a huge fan of the 90s Monte Carlos.

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I know the cool thing is the Buick Gran National, but the SS Monte Carlo is my goal.

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Gotta have that V8. Preferably in red.

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Back when I still drove a kei car.

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A better picture.

dense shard
#

yes

stoic ledge
#

Smol pink kei car smile

stoic ledge
#

Classic

vital glen
#

@dense shard w-bodies never got a v8

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w-bodies are also ugly

dense shard
#

Oops.

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Meant 80s.

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Not sure how I didn't catch that.

stoic ledge
#

Mods have seen it for months, never complained Why report him?

vital glen
#

@stoic ledge it's an alt account most likely

dense shard
#

...

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Anyway... Yeah. 80s Monte Carlo SS.

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That would be nice to have. That or a Vette ZR-1 from that same time period.

eager kite
jagged coyote
#

a gigafactory in europe would be super swell

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at one time i think they were looking at an old ford plant in belgium/netherland, where they made the cmax

dense shard
#

Europe does make sense.

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They just gotta maintain profit here, and keep on pushing forward.

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That being said not a bad time to increase production quality.

jagged coyote
#

at least they would be making them cheaper here since you won't have to ship them from SF to the netherland (i think that's where their import hub is)

dense shard
#

Hey, I'm finally feeling better about Tesla's chances, so yay them.

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I'm hoping that Q4 will be just as positive.

indigo coral
#

^^^

civic girder
#

tfw when a discord you're in creates a channel for flexing how well your car starts in the cold

dense shard
#

pfffft

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Diesels, or just any car?

stoic ledge
#

Everybody knows the Prius has the best start up sound

civic spoke
#

How does it sound?

stoic ledge
#

vroem vroem

viral matrix
#

Fun times

vital glen
#

@civic girder MY CAR STARTS REAL GOOD IN THE COLD, REAL GOOD

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@fathom socket Porsche made inline 6 engines?

stoic ledge
#

They have used inline 4's, but no inline 6's

fair bronze
#

Indeed

vital glen
#

That's what I thought

stoic ledge
vital glen
#

snapchat

stoic ledge
#

Yes pogey

vital glen
#

You can't hear my daily start from the inside

stoic ledge
#

feelsBadMan

vital glen
#

I have over 5x the DISPLACEMENT than you @stoic ledge

stoic ledge
#

But you still can't hear it glare

vital glen
#

It idles at 600rpm

stoic ledge
#

Mine does too when on temperature, ~650rpm

viral matrix
vital glen
#

Philthy

viral matrix
#

Finally

eager kite
#

Best startup noise

vital glen
#

We get it, you are a Tesla fan boy @eager kite

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You like the sounds of vacuum cleaners

eager kite
#

U sure?

vital glen
#

That's the sound of a Dyson vacuum that Linus showed off @eager kite

stoic ledge
#

Much better

viral matrix
civic girder
#

The Prius cold start is eh, since the gas motor is just four lawn mower engines welded together. But my RX-7, that has a cool cold start; especially thanks to the missfiring it does before it warms up

fair bronze
#

Do you use fuel additives?

unreal terrace
#

FeelsGucciMan

civic girder
#

@fair bronze I premix in the RX-7, but I don't use anything in the Prius

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Soon enough I'll have all 9s on the Prius OD

fair bronze
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@civic girder I was wondering because pretty much everyone on the internet who owns a rotary says it's necessary for longevity

civic girder
#

Yes and no

fair bronze
#

Also I didn't even know you own a Prius lol

civic girder
#

On a bone stock motor, premix isn't 100% essential because they still have the OMP. However, the OMP doesn't run off throttle or at idle, so light premix is good. If you remove the OMP, you need premix or your engine will blow up

vital glen
#

@civic girder Diesel rotary engine, swap it in

fair bronze
#

I heard many people do it even with stock engines just to prevent anything bad from happening

civic girder
#

If only those were common enough to not cost a fortune to maintain and use

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@fair bronze the OMP isn't perfect, so it's generally a good idea to premix lightly to cover when the OMP isn't injecting oil and as a backup in case the OMP were to fail

fair bronze
#

That is a good idea

civic girder
#

Yea

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I don't add that much since I'm still running the OMP, but it's enough to lower fuel economy and make my exhaust smell strongly of 2 stroke; 2 stronk as I like to call it

vital glen
#

1 stroke engines are best

barren shale
#

I hate living near the city. No good roads to drive

vital glen
#

That's a flat 6

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Not a straight 6

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Huge difference @fathom socket

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https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/718/718-cayman-gt4/?utm_source=google&utm_campaign=pcna_2019-09-09_fy19aon_718_cayman_gt4&utm_medium=paid&utm_term=brand&utm_content=ad&campaigntype=engagement&campaigncategory=brand_marketing&campaigntiming=sustain&campaignmodel=718&campaignmodeltype=new_car&displaycampaigntargeting=keyword&displaycampaignbuying=self-service&displaycampaignmetric=cpc&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=CjwKCAjw3c_tBRA4EiwAICs8Ci6YLUCd36drBp7TSv5m7p68QqTRpONAS1t9Umh_J0N6l9vwTsF8hhoCOssQAvD_BwE

Porsche HOME - Porsche USA
Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 - Porsche USA
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It took a minute to post

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I sent it before you said 2016

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They never put a straight 6 in a Cayman

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It's too long

#

Never had a straight 6

indigo coral
#

2016 Cayman GT4 is a flat 6

vital glen
#

That's base Cayman

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Not gt4

#

Gt4 is a trim

#

It has a 3.8L flat 6

indigo coral
#

It's. A. Flat. 6.

vital glen
indigo coral
#

Even Porsche's website says it

vital glen
#

@fathom socket If you are a troll, you are pretty good at the subtle trolling if you aren't, you are welcome for the new information

indigo coral
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I found the specsheet from the GT4 clubsport and it specifically says flat 6 derived from gt4's flat 6

vital glen
#

It's a flat 6 from the 911 Carrera S

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I think that's pretty interesting

#

@indigo coral the gt4 is a 911, but handicapped

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What?

#

So you understand it isn't a straight 6? @fathom socket

#

It never came with one

stoic ledge
vital glen
#

@stoic ledge I will send you a sbc 307 for your econobox

#

Imagine a 305, but worse

stoic ledge
#

A small block Chevy glare

vital glen
#

But a 307 is way different than a 305

indigo coral
#

put a 2jz in your corsa

#

Noballs

stoic ledge
#

X doubt it will fit

indigo coral
#

tru

vital glen
#

A 2jz wouldn't even fit in his cabin

indigo coral
#

lol

vital glen
#

let alone the engine bay

indigo coral
#

It wouldn't fit in mine either sadpepe

vital glen
#

It's 28in long

stoic ledge
#

I have one or 2 Corsa's with a 2.0T swap

vital glen
#

It's about, 70cm or so

indigo coral
#

I have a transverse v6

stoic ledge
#

28" = 71cm

indigo coral
#

Lol

vital glen
#

I messed up my math @stoic ledge

stoic ledge
#

You can always install a Turbo

indigo coral
#

^

vital glen
#

Is it always a good thing

#

No

stoic ledge
#

No definitely not

#

But you can

#

xD

dense shard
#

Porsche has turbo flat 6s

indigo coral
#

Turbo kit for 99rx GWmythicalThonkCool

dense shard
#

911 Turbo for example.

#

The 911 turbo is hella fast.

stoic ledge
#

Turbo kit for 2011 Corsa GWmythicalThonkCool

vital glen
#

But also hella expensive @dense shard

dense shard
#

win some lose some

#

much

indigo coral
#

Your little Chevy would probably blow up mk

#

Cayman != 911

dense shard
#

The 911 Turbo is the flagship of the car company.

#

No way it'll be slower.

vital glen
#

What

dense shard
#

Oh wait, forgot the 9whatever hybrid V8 thing.

indigo coral
#

A Cayman is their mid-range car

#

The 911 is their flagship

dense shard
#

Entry level I'd say.

vital glen
#

Boxster would be

indigo coral
#

Boxster -> Cayman > 911

#

Yes, mid-range.

#

For Porsche

stoic ledge
#

In Porsches Line-up, yes

indigo coral
#

You're a fucking idiot.

vital glen
#

It's Porsche

dense shard
#

Porsche 718 is entry and the 911 is top nacho.

#

Panamera is their executive sedan.

stoic ledge
#

Idk buy both, test it and come back with the results

dense shard
#

Yes, the top trim of the 718 beats a base 911.

indigo coral
#

But the GT4 isn't gonna be able to touch a 911 Turbo S

dense shard
#

But the 911 is placed above the 718 in the hierarchy.

#

High range of entry level.

indigo coral
#

sure. Whatever. Top spec of a mid-range/entry level car

dense shard
#

Not like it matters in the end.

#

Cayenne and Macan are the profit machines of Porsche.

vital glen
#

Lmao, the weisache package is the money maker

dense shard
#

Only reason we got the last 3 generations of 911 was thanks to the success of the Cayenne.

stoic ledge
#

^

vital glen
#

Yes

stoic ledge
#

Porsche was on the edge of bankruptcy

#

Without the Cayenne, they wouldn't have made it

dense shard
#

All things considered... VW had crazier engine specs than Porsche for that platform.

#

Old school Touareg had that stupid big V10 TDI and the W12 gas engine.

vital glen
#

Tractor engines @dense shard

dense shard
#

Pretty much.

#

Just less reliable.

#

To each his own I suppose.

#

I'm not a fan of VAG products.

vital glen
#

^

stoic ledge
#

"I prefer Porsche over VW" is like saying "I like Ferrari over Fiat".

dense shard
#

Volkswagen Automotive Group

stoic ledge
#

VAG = Volkswagen Auto Group

vital glen
#

I hate German cars, guess what I daily

stoic ledge
#

Hummer H1

vital glen
#

no

#

A VW Passat far from luxury

dense shard
#

The Jetta leaves much to be desired.

stoic ledge
#

German cars are luxurious

Not really everything is an optional extra

dense shard
#

VW's US lineup is mostly pedestrian.

#

VW, Opel are not.

vital glen
#

A class is not luxury, just expensive junk

dense shard
#

The Mercedes ALS.

#

Happily never happened.

stoic ledge
#

A Class with Renault engines pogey

dense shard
#

Didn't the old A-Classes have a tendency to flip?

#

Or was it the B?

vital glen
#

@stoic ledge I use to daily the h1

stoic ledge
#

The first one, yes

#

But they recalled the early ones and fitted ESP

fair bronze
#

It's still nice to drive though

#

Not the one that tipped over, the previous one

stoic ledge
#

But it's really small inside

vital glen
#

Guess what I daily @fathom socket

#

Please

fair bronze
#

It's not too bad but it's not a car people buy because it's so practical

stoic ledge
#

@vital glen a car

fair bronze
#

I'd rather buy a BMW 1 of the previous gen

vital glen
#

Yes @stoic ledge

#

No @fathom socket

stoic ledge
#

^ I like the previous 1er, but it's too narrow for me

vital glen
#

No

dense shard
#

man the gen 1 A class looks dorky.

stoic ledge
#

I litteraly hit the B-pillar with my shoulders

fair bronze
#

Are you such a wide boi?

vital glen
#

No @fathom socket

stoic ledge
#

The 1er is really small inside, no jokes

#

And no I'm not really that wide

vital glen
#

I drive a s-class

fair bronze
#

You must be old then

vital glen
#

19

dense shard
#

or rich

#

Or...

#

He's one of those crazy people who bought an S-Class used.

#

And has the patience, time, and experience to keep em running.

fair bronze
#

No, he ain't rich

dense shard
#

I'm too lazy to keep an S-class on the road.

stoic ledge
#

No a Dacia S-Class

fair bronze
#

He's quite poor now after the first service

vital glen
#

2007 s550

dense shard
#

So hats off to the people who can keep old cars on the road.

#

It's also a V8.

stoic ledge
#

2007 is old, boi you're a spoiled kid aren't you?

fair bronze
#

How is 2007 old

dense shard
#

Actually isn't the 5.5 supposed to be a gem in the engine lineup?

fair bronze
#

No

#

Cars aren't electronics

dense shard
#

I was thinking 90s tbh.

fair bronze
#

Up to around 2000 I consider old

#

Kids these days

#

Who cares

#

They already can

stoic ledge
#

Ok cool story

fair bronze
#

Have fun driving your vacuum cleaner if you can afford one

vital glen
#

Lmao @fair bronze

stoic ledge
#

0-69 GWmythiBlobLUL

dense shard
#

Didn't Dyson abandon their car aspirations?

fair bronze
#

Yep

stoic ledge
#

Yes

#

Wow your parents bought you a vacuum cleaner? How nice of them

vital glen
#

@stoic ledge I stole them

#

With permission

dense shard
#

...

fair bronze
#

Since when is it allowed to have an alt here

dense shard
#

weird flex, but aight

vital glen
#

Wow man, epik

stoic ledge
#

I bet my pc is better than urs dude

Cool

dense shard
#

I bet my PC is better than someone's here in the world.

#

I hope.

stoic ledge
#

Me too Monte!

vital glen
#

All of India's computers combined

dense shard
#

Not sure my PC is stronger than the IRS's India division.

vital glen
#

Probably is

stoic ledge
#

travels to Africa

My food is better than yours!

Goes back

fair bronze
#

In India they pee on their computer to turn it on

dense shard
#

Well yeah, but I own my car.

#

My PC may be worse, but my car is paid off.

stoic ledge
#

And I have a gold bathtub

dense shard
#

Solid gold or gold plated?

stoic ledge
#

Solid gold ofc

fair bronze
#

I have a helicopter on my gazebo

dense shard
#

shiiiiit

#

MK got me beat.

stoic ledge
#

Gold plated, tssk, that a pleb do you think I am

vital glen
#

Well yeah, but I own many of cars that put me in a terrible financial situation for a second

dense shard
#

I yield to your glory MK.

fair bronze
#

I bought the yacht in GTA Online

dense shard
#

I once violated ToS as well.

fair bronze
#

Why are you telling us all of this anyway

stoic ledge
#

So you didn't hack it, somebody else did

dense shard
#

At least I think I did... never read em anyway. I'm a rebel. Pogey

#

I had a gigabit internet in Japan.

#

Fiber direct to house.

stoic ledge
#

Twice the half

fair bronze
#

Why do you want to do a dick measuring contest

vital glen
#

@dense shard I have gigabit*10^-2

dense shard
#

shiiiit

#

Y'all keep defeating me.

#

At least I get good fuel economy in my 'rolla.

fair bronze
#

Answer me

dense shard
#

Actually got over 40mpg once.

fair bronze
#

Yeet

dense shard
#

It's a bigger X5 with a mondo grill.

stoic ledge
#

Don't you have the X7 already? I bought my housekeeper 3 of them

dense shard
#

There's more of it.

fair bronze
#

@stoic ledge That's pathetic, I bought my entire family 6 of them each

stoic ledge
#

Oof damn

dense shard
#

Okay JD, but what about the housekeepers?

#

Well tough guy? How many BMWs did you get them?

vital glen
#

I have 7

fair bronze
#

cough Only 2... cough

vital glen
#

@dense shard Is that a t-bird alt?

dense shard
#

Probably.

vital glen
#

Ugly as sin

#

And expensive as sin

dense shard
#

Save me the 100k.

fair bronze
#

I know, that's why I bought so many of them

stoic ledge
#

Oof that's base X5 pricing here GWmythiBlobLUL

#

What a pleb

dense shard
#

Get me a Corolla and a weekened at Las Vegas.

#

I'll make my own sins.

vital glen
#

Nobody cares about your Norwegian pricing @stoic ledge

#

Do you have a sense of money?

fair bronze
#

He's 8

dense shard
#

Look. This pissing contest has been great, but if y'all want to end this once and for all.

#

Someone claim to be vegan.

fair bronze
#

Just stop

dense shard
#

I'm not gonna do it. I like burgers too much.

stoic ledge
#

Not me, i love meat too much

fair bronze
#

Stop

dense shard
#

Look bang for buck, hard to beat the Corolla.

#

170 for only 20k.

#

That's better than the BMW and Porsche.

fair bronze
#

Everyone knows the answer is always Miata

vital glen
#

MIATAAAAA

dense shard
#

nyoom

fair bronze
#

Though tbh the new Corolla looks awesome

dense shard
#

I like it.

fair bronze
#

It's also really nice to drive

dense shard
#

It's comfy.

fair bronze
#

Sure is

dense shard
#

Not the sportiest car... or even sporty.

stoic ledge
#

It's too small for me xD

dense shard
#

But it's completely adequate.

vital glen
#

I only drive the fastest cars

fair bronze
#

Really?

dense shard
#

It's no GTI, or so I assume.

fair bronze
#

@stoic ledge So basically you need a higher car

dense shard
#

But it does the vroom vroom nicely enough.

vital glen
#

The mirage @fair bronze

stoic ledge
#

Corsa is big enough xD

vital glen
#

3 cylinders of fury

fair bronze
#

I mean the Corsa has a higher seating position

stoic ledge
#

The Mirage is called... Space Star over here

dense shard
#

Just remember. If you aren't looking back at your car after you park, you got the wrong car.

fair bronze
#

The Corolla is a lower seating car

stoic ledge
#

I have sport seats tho

#

And a sport exhaust

#

And sport suspension

fair bronze
#

Every true Corsa has those

stoic ledge
#

All to put those 83hp to the ground

#

Pogey

fair bronze
stoic ledge
#

Oof didn't got muted

fair bronze
#

You got a little excited there

vital glen
#

Lmao

stoic ledge
#

wipes sweat of his forehead

fair bronze
#

The Corsa is bound to make anyone sweaty

vital glen
#

Because the AC doesn't work?

dense shard
#

oof

fair bronze
#

Or it didn't come with one

#

His did though

stoic ledge
#

The AC works fine pogey

#

It does have a noticable effect on engine power

#

But it works

#

xD

fair bronze
#

Better than nothing

#

I don't use it 99,5% of the time

stoic ledge
#

Same

fair bronze
#

But that 0,5% you really need it

stoic ledge
#

Only when hot or when the windows are condensed

fair bronze
#

I clean and prep my windows with anti condense

stoic ledge
#

And the draw of power is only noticable on really hot days with the car loaded or going up a steep hill

fair bronze
#

No fog at all

dense shard
#

Need to clean my windows.

stoic ledge
#

Corsa D's are known to fog

#

And Supra > GT86

fair bronze
#

Clean windows are so much better

stoic ledge
#

I know, i did clean them

dense shard
#

It's just the front bit that's getting me.

stoic ledge
#

> Premium Audio not being standard

dense shard
#

Because the Supra is likely loaded from the start.

vital glen
#

Premium Audio

stoic ledge
#

Is this, "premium" brands wanting more money from you

fair bronze
#

It's just a shame Opel doesn't want you to private lease their cars

dense shard
#

Toyota expects the dealers to mark the car up appropriately.

vital glen
#

the Supra is a z4

#

Soo....

dense shard
#

Could be worse?

#

I have 6 speakers in my car.

#

That's 4 more than my previous car.

fair bronze
#

I have a horn

dense shard
#

nice!

stoic ledge
#

Bose Premium GWmythsBlobGlare

#

That's why every company car Renault Megane in 2012 had a Bose sound system

fair bronze
#

Also I have 5 tyres

vital glen
#

Damn

stoic ledge
#

Oof i only have 4

vital glen
#

5 of them

fair bronze
#

6 wheels too

vital glen
#

fuck dude

fair bronze
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One is a steering wheel

vital glen
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Amazing

stoic ledge
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But does it have 2 fuel tanks?

fair bronze
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I think it does

vital glen
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But does it have 1 60 gallon fuel tank

fair bronze
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It gets good fuel economy so it doesn't need that

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Save the trees

stoic ledge
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My solar panels on our houses roof planted 5.59 trees

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I don't know how solar panels can plant trees

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But they have

fair bronze
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On the roof?

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Incredible

stoic ledge
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Ikr

fair bronze
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Don't the roots grow into your bedroom though

vital glen
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I raffle trees so the seeds fall off

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And get carried by the wind

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I plant 100s of trees that way

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Nobody cares

fair bronze
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^

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Who needs wifi when you have 4G

vital glen
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Poor People use 4g

fair bronze
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The wifi router in cars use 4G though

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Yes it is

stoic ledge
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Thinkpads with 4G modem ftw

fair bronze
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Why would an iMac need 4G

stoic ledge
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> Apple

fair bronze
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You hipster

stoic ledge
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And yes desktops with 4G lul

fair bronze
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It's to use it at Starbucks, isn't it

vital glen
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Rich people use 5g @fair bronze

fair bronze
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Not if they don't live where there is no 5G

stoic ledge
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5G? I have 64G #getonmylevel

fair bronze
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:o

stoic ledge
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Btw my car has no display to show average fuel consumption etc, #getonmylevel

fair bronze
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Oh dang, now there is no other way to calculate fuel economy

stoic ledge
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Nope

vital glen
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@stoic ledge I have a 3rd grade education level

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Can't figure out how

stoic ledge
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Oof lucky bastard

dense shard
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I should try out the hotspot my car has.

stoic ledge
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I always found it the most useless feature, and the cost compared to regular 4G is too damn high

fair bronze
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Yeah it's way overpriced

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Especially since unlimited data isn't that expensive anymore either

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But personally I barely use data while driving

stoic ledge
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Literally 0 upside_down

fair bronze
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I use some for traffic info

unreal terrace
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I cracked the issue with the 320i

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After replacing plugs and camshaft position sensors it turned out that the throttle body had lost its position

stoic ledge
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Oof nice

fair bronze
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The relief

unreal terrace
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ive been tearing out my hair for 3 or 4 days now cuz of this

viral matrix
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Got the clutch job done on the A4, works perfectly now Pogey

stoic ledge
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A4 pogey

viral matrix
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3.0tdi that is PogChomp

heady ridge
fathom socket
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ok porsche you're drunk

indigo coral
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almost would rather have the Cayman brand new than a ragged out lambo

fathom socket
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yeah almost

dense shard
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Almost

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But it's a mistake either way

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Might as well go with the better story for the aftermath

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Another VINwiki story

wheat hatch
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Well it's Porsche
Not only do they cost a ton
But they for some reason retain their value for a long time as well

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If they only could depreciate as normal sports cars

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.sad.

viral matrix
viral matrix