cars

[indigo coral]

i wonder if best buy is any good to work fgor

[fathom socket]

There's an employee discount

[twin gust]

Anyone know what car this is

[indigo coral]

pontiac innit?

[twin gust]

Ok

I was thinking cadilac but idk

[dense shard]

That's either a Chevy or a Pontiac.

yep

Looks like a mid 70s Camaro.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah it's the 3rd gen Camaro

[tight cypress]

soo

i got kicked

why cant they apply an rule to the emotes

[wheat hatch]

Huh?

[stoic ledge]

@tight cypress what happened?

[tight cypress]

no idea

just got kicked

[winter oasis]

seems like they're a bit trigger happy when it comes to emotes

[wheat hatch]

@winter oasis a bit is an understatement.
.kek.

[tropic silo]

Diamond is a pretty hard material, right?
Well, their cocks are 10 times harder then diamond when they see an emote.

keksplosion emote

[civic spoke]

Isn't it bots that give out most of those mutes?

[tropic silo]

Not being muted/kicked from using a single emote, that's the work of a mod.

[civic spoke]

[tropic silo]

They use a bot to remain hidden

for example: !mute @Lewd Lil' Foxy#0001 would mute me and delete that message

[civic spoke]

Kinda sucks. I at least like knowing more of a reason why I was muted.

[fathom socket]

Could probably add a bot that sends you a message within that same command, but after the command, write the reason for the mute or kick and that same part could be messages to you

Or maybe a warm and it would warm you on what you've done wrong or something

[dense shard]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGvR34lUYAAScMJ?format=jpg&name=large Apparently the Japanese use unimogs in certain applications.

[indigo coral]

[stoic ledge]

Unimog is awesome

[wheat hatch]

.Unipog.

[fair bronze]

[dense shard]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGtZoiHUcAAPXKG?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 oh wow... Japan got hit harder than I expected.

Shinkansen kinda submerged.

[indigo coral]

wow

[tropic silo]

That's just Japans underwater trainstation

[dense shard]

Still... Tokyo dealt with this storm far better than New York did.

Gotta love the news. "so called super typhoon"

Meanwhile a Cat 1 hurricane was unequivocally, "Super Storm Sandy"

[tropic silo]

Meanwhile in the Netherlands:

Constantly fighting water on a daily basis without any flooding.

[dense shard]

The Netherlands don't usually get hit by typhoons.

[tropic silo]

True, but it has a constant threat of seawater

Think this was would've been the Netherlands if we didn't have dikes/dams or whatever they're called

[indigo coral]

rip

[tropic silo]

This being normal :)

[fair bronze]

I live underwater

[indigo coral]

mood

[tropic silo]

Everyone does 😉

[fair bronze]

I actually live below sea level though

[tropic silo]

Nice, I luckily don't

[fair bronze]

Not like I ever notice

[indigo coral]

i live at like

300 feet.

[tropic silo]

Ah yes let me collect 300 feet to measure it x)

[fair bronze]

I live at -15 feet

[heady ridge]

why are we talking flooding in car chat? also @dense shard youtube tom scott he did a video on why tokyo survived fine

[indigo coral]

because its an everything chat

[heady ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfJOW2PtrGk

[indigo coral]

not just cars

[dense shard]

I mean people were talking about getting silenced here a few minutes ago.

[tropic silo]

This is just a channel where car lovers meet other car lovers to talk about anything

[dense shard]

I imagine transport is more relevant than emojis.

[indigo coral]

and get banned for using emotes

[dense shard]

I miss Japan sometimes.

[fair bronze]

Japan is still here

[tropic silo]

Oof

[dense shard]

I'm not in Japan though.

[fair bronze]

At least you should be safe then

[dense shard]

That's fairly relative.

American drivers really really suck.

[fair bronze]

On a more serious note, I'd love to go to Japan one day

So many nice cars

[heady ridge]

lol dash cam owners australia now theres some scary driving

[dense shard]

If you like kei cars... sure?

[fair bronze]

Japan isn't just kei cars

[dense shard]

One thing you'll find is Japan loves minivans.

It's dramatically less interesting than many westerns think it is.

It isn't all Skylines and Supras.

[fair bronze]

I know, that's not all I'm interested in, trust me

[dense shard]

The second you leave the big cities... which you should. It's a lot of kei cars.

[fair bronze]

I have a weak spot for cars like the Honda S660 for example

[dense shard]

I've seen a few of those.

Cute cars.

[fair bronze]

I can see Skylines and Supras where I'm at too so no need to travel for them

[dense shard]

I almost wish I had gotten a kei van.

That would have been amusing.

But as in the US... utility vehicles maintain their value far better than I expected.

Trucks especially.

Still love the one guy who owned a Hummer H1 in my area.

I'm assuming he was a very happy lad.

[heady ridge]

lol people think toyotas they brought 20 years ago are still worth 10 to 15k here

here the first part of one i found

1992 Toyota Landcruiser
$7,500
Brisbane, Queensland

Selling a 1992 Toyota Landcruiser HZJ75 4x4 diesel with 358,157kms on it.

222548.442miles

[fair bronze]

typo

[heady ridge]

no its not a typo

[fair bronze]

36137.084 miles is

[heady ridge]

heres a 30 year old nissan

1989 nissan gq patrol
$15,000
Scarness, Queensland, Australia

For sale is my 1989 Nissan gq patrol 504xxxkms

[fair bronze]

That's insane for that price lol

[heady ridge]

thats australian dollars

[fair bronze]

Still

I mean, they can handle it if they're maintained well enough

Well maybe the prices aren't insane

[heady ridge]

the australian 4wd scene is huge and i know of a fair few people that take their 4wd through the simpson

[fair bronze]

Plenty of terrain to go off-roading

[heady ridge]

the cost is one reason im buying a little zook

max for a zook sierra is about 5 grand

[fair bronze]

I love the old Samurai

Awesome little cars

[heady ridge]

little things are powerful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9QjSWlW-1E and can withstand this lot

[fair bronze]

They can handle so much indeed

And they're simple to repair and maintain

[heady ridge]

yep and its why i want one and i say it can handle 4wd action because ive seen their 4wds personaly in town before needing alot of work

2 twisted shafts, mutiple steering breakages, busted out uni joints i think the only thing they havent broken is a engine yet

[fair bronze]

Have you seen the Top Gear episode with the Suzuki?

They went through the rainforest with three off-roaders and the Suzuki was so great

Even though it was broken

[heady ridge]

get them old enough and they serve a lifetime

[fair bronze]

Just keep an eye on the rusty bits

All fine

[heady ridge]

being me ill pump lanolin through everything

since it will mostly be a beach car

[fair bronze]

I would certainly give them a good coating

[heady ridge]

mm i know of a 4wd here that just went to the national motor museum and all it got was a hit of lanolin

the museum being the goverments collection of cars and that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83TPvHyCbdE

[fair bronze]

That's awesome

Still looks great

[fair bronze]

braaaaaaaaap

[tight cypress]

braaapapapappa

4 stroke engine yes

[fair bronze]

To be honest that bike looks nice

[tight cypress]

mine

[fair bronze]

Yes

[tight cypress]

needs some more tuning

fr

[fair bronze]

The blue one you posted

[fair bronze]

Yes

[tight cypress]

decent

[fair bronze]

Looks cool

[tight cypress]

i want this more yet

[fair bronze]

Tiny wheels

[tight cypress]

well yus

but mine is ugly yet

its the basic tuning for it now

i bought the new exhaust

[fair bronze]

I see

[tight cypress]

so i can take all out of the bike

as 50cc

[fair bronze]

mhm

[tight cypress]

after tha

the moped is actually stock

and not cursed with some like

8mm intake manifold

i drilled it into 16mm

[fair bronze]

So you went from to

[tight cypress]

delete fast

before kick

or mute

[fair bronze]

Meh

[tight cypress]

i have everything else tuned in it

expect stock exhaust

so its time to change it

speedometer says yet 70kmh

but no idea what its really going

[fair bronze]

You put a lot of work into it

[tight cypress]

actually no

[fair bronze]

Oh

[tight cypress]

the new handlebar and the rack was the hardest

especially the rack

[stoic ledge]

Ok why were there random maps of flag_nl here? xD

Also: kaas pogey cheese_wedge

[fair bronze]

Yes

[stoic ledge]

kees joy

[fair bronze]

Njoy

[tight cypress]

yes

[stoic ledge]

Opel Njoy eyes

[fair bronze]

[stoic ledge]

^ inb4 ban

[fair bronze]

He gets the reference

What is this about emoji and bans

I saw $avage got kicked

[stoic ledge]

We all get muted for using emotes

[fair bronze]

I see many people using them though

[stoic ledge]

I got muted for no reason yesterday puggers

[fair bronze]

Don't overdo it?

I wasn't there yesterday

[stoic ledge]

I suddenly had the muted role, no explanation tho from a bot so it was assignment to me by hand stuck_out_tongue

[fair bronze]

Makes no sense

[stoic ledge]

I know

[fair bronze]

All I ever got was a warning for saying the other word for engine brake or gearbox brake if that makes sense

[stoic ledge]

Ah, yes

I member

[fair bronze]

Speaking of yesterday

I was at a huge Saab specialist, they had 110 Saabs standing there

[stoic ledge]

oof

[tight cypress]

waiting for exhaustttt

it got into the airplane at the morning

8am

[fair bronze]

It was an interesting sight to see

[tight cypress]

lets see how long it takes from honk kong to finland

[fair bronze]

Let's see if the pilots don't get lost

[tight cypress]

and tomorrow

come get your package or well destroy this

[fair bronze]

@stoic ledge https://www.saabspecials.nl/

[stoic ledge]

Nike was able to ship from Hong Kong to flag_nl within 48h

[fair bronze]

They can be quick if they want to

[stoic ledge]

Ah that specialist... He's expensive tho xD

[fair bronze]

Sometimes it takes months for something to arrive

He ain't cheap but they are very nice examples

[stoic ledge]

Depends on the shipment method wink

[fair bronze]

Hehe

The man at the dealership even showed us some special inventory

Lots of parts and special cars in the back

Interesting considering it's basically a dead brand

[stoic ledge]

And yeah ofc, but 7k for a 2006 9-3 with 220k km and a base 1.8 (non-turbo) is... Quite expensive

[fair bronze]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I agree

[stoic ledge]

Imported US 2006 models for 20k puggers

[fair bronze]

Which one

The blue convertible?

[stoic ledge]

Yes, the one with the ugly rims

xD

[fair bronze]

lol

Personally I don't think they're ugly

[stoic ledge]

SAAB 9-3 Sport Estate 1.8i Linear, 2008, 160k km: €15k joy

[fair bronze]

Yeah I also wonder how he came to those prices tbh

Though the fact he's asking that for it doesn't mean he will actually get that much

[stoic ledge]

Tru

I quite like Saabs, but the prices are getting ridiculous

[fair bronze]

True that

Honestly I wouldn't spend 20k on a car like that which is at least 10 years old

[stoic ledge]

My uncle had a 2006 9-3 Sport Estate 2.0t as a company car, it was nice

A red one

[fair bronze]

I like a red one

[stoic ledge]

https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/gallery/SAAB-9-3-SportCombi-522_19.jpg

[stoic ledge]

Like this

[fair bronze]

Ah the pre-facelift

2006 of course

[stoic ledge]

Yeah, a 2006

[fair bronze]

I should've known

[stoic ledge]

Lemme see if i can find it's old plate

Idk if it exists anymore

[vital glen]

@fair bronze power award

and associates

[fair bronze]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ConcernedGentleAnhinga-size_restricted.gif

[stoic ledge]

@fair bronze found it: 48TVLF, a 2007 apparently. Now exported, and someone (I assume the second owner) put an LPG system in it

[fair bronze]

@stoic ledge Nice, the fact that someone exported it must've meant it was still in nice condition I reckon

Unless it got exported to Poland

[tight cypress]

mmm

sooo

this pioneer sub is an perfect budget option

better than an 200€ ground zero 300w kit

[stoic ledge]

shrug I have no idea xD He drives roughly 40k km/year so it already had 150-160k km on it when he sold it (/ handed it back in), then it received a LPG system installed by a private owner. He probably drove it a lot too, otherwise you won't install a LPG system xD

[tight cypress]

my mom bought his mondeo

with 6000km on it

now it has 60000km on it

[fair bronze]

It only got exported a few months ago

[stoic ledge]

Yeah it only had 2 owners, my uncle (1) and then the private owner (2). Then it got exported

[cosmic trellis]

first thing i read there it "my mom bought his monado"

[fair bronze]

Hmm

[stoic ledge]

https://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2016/0411/173243/preview480.jpg
He traded the 9-3 in for this V70

[fair bronze]

I like that he got that in red too

[stoic ledge]

(exactly that one, 11PNG7 was his license plate)

Yeah he only buys red cars

Well buys, leases xD

[tight cypress]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UBLQVSnFUk

[fair bronze]

Haha, he gets red cars

[tight cypress]

hmm noice bass

[stoic ledge]

He only had 1 other color, a blue Passat, but that was because he wrecked his red Passat xD So he had to take the car the leasing firm had atm

[fair bronze]

Typical lol

[tight cypress]

red cars usually look good

especially on cars like mk4 s0pra

[fair bronze]

Almost everyone here gets either white, black or some shade of gray cars

It's so bland

Doesn't mean all cars that are black, white or gray are bad though

[stoic ledge]

looks at driveway

Yes, silver and white

[tight cypress]

meanwhile me

[fair bronze]

You fit right in :)

[stoic ledge]

But we buy used, so we can't really pick a color

[tight cypress]

grey and matte black hood

[stoic ledge]

We did have a red Peugeot 306 pogey

[tight cypress]

we did have alot of old ladas

[stoic ledge]

Oof Ladidas

[tight cypress]

those drift bomb ones

my dad was an nice petrolhead

so he switched into ant ransit

to avoid tickets

and in general

the tools he need in his job

doesnt fit into an lada

[fair bronze]

We've had this Smart on private lease since 2015, in a week it will be gone

So now my dad bought this very Ford Ka for my mother

[tight cypress]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAZ-2106

[fair bronze]

See the pattern?

[tight cypress]

we had 3 of these

[fair bronze]

Lada's are cool

[stoic ledge]

Oof a RWD Smart pogey

[tight cypress]

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lada_2105

and some of these

[fair bronze]

RWD, rear-engined

Though honestly you don't really notice while driving

Only on the motorway when it's windy

[stoic ledge]

My mom actually wanted a red car, but driving to the other side of the country for the same car in red costing many k more.. nah we got the silver one xD

[fair bronze]

Haha

[tight cypress]

meanwhile me playing bass in renault

[fair bronze]

I wouldn't pay a lot more just for a different color

[tight cypress]

lights flashing besauce no condesator or something

i need to wire the amp

[fair bronze]

How is that Renault still holding

[tight cypress]

damn i will hate doing that

[stoic ledge]

Yeah well maybe we would have payed a bit more, but it was literally 4k more on a 10k car xD

[tight cypress]

@fair bronze better than nissan primera

[stoic ledge]

Not worth it

[fair bronze]

Nissan Primera = Renault Laguna

Unless it's an older model

[tight cypress]

92

or something

[fair bronze]

@stoic ledge Not worth it indeed

[tight cypress]

96 was it

[stoic ledge]

Laguna 3, morst reliable Renault ever made

Really underestimated

[fair bronze]

Really?

Because the second one was crap

[stoic ledge]

Yes

But the Laguna 3 is an amazing car

Really reliable

Would recommend

But since the name Laguna get hurt by the 2nd gen, nobody buys the 3rd gen Laguna's

So they are quite cheap

But really good

[fair bronze]

I like the look of them

But especially this one

[stoic ledge]

Yes the coupe

[fair bronze]

My god that thing is a beauty

Always loved them

It's an Aston Martin for poor people

[stoic ledge]

Too bad stuff like the 407 Coupe and Laguna Coupe are dead

[tight cypress]

god i hate the look of new cars

[fair bronze]

You do you

[stoic ledge]

Talisman is one Nice looking car tho

So is the new Clio

[tight cypress]

talsiman Thinking

[stoic ledge]

Whut?

[fair bronze]

He'll hate it

[tight cypress]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Corolla_(E70)

i still want him

so bad

[stoic ledge]

https://media.autoweek.nl/m/agry6hxbvmtl_800.jpg

LOL

[fair bronze]

lmao

[tight cypress]

yeah i hate it

[stoic ledge]

It's nice

[tight cypress]

why is that badge so big

that looks like an skoda btw

[stoic ledge]

so it can double as a jack

[fair bronze]

I think it looks nice but it's boring to drive (I actually took one on a test drive a while ago)

[tight cypress]

its just like an skoda

[stoic ledge]

Well it's a comfy highway cruiser

Not meant to throw around corners

[fair bronze]

I know

[tight cypress]

so it doesnt fit finland at all

[fair bronze]

Even for what it is I still find it quite boring to drive

[tight cypress]

besauce finland is all about tight corners

[fair bronze]

Finland is all about perkele

[tight cypress]

perkkele

[stoic ledge]

https://media.tenor.com/images/f428b406e974b11d3881315d69e8590b/tenor.gif

[tight cypress]

btw

[indigo coral]

peugeot makes weird arse cars

[stoic ledge]

Insignia, 508 or Talisman are cars I'd get in that segment

[tight cypress]

when will people realize that rebassed songs are way better than bass boosted ones

[stoic ledge]

Never, cause people are dumb

[fair bronze]

Most people who drive Peugeot have no idea what they're doing on the road

[tight cypress]

i wont need bassboosted anymore

[stoic ledge]

Looks at JDs profile pic

[tight cypress]

besauce even normal version kicks like hell

[fair bronze]

I'm not just saying that because of that Top Gear skit

I notice it everyday

[stoic ledge]

Most people who drive have no idea what they're doing on the road

Ftfy

[tight cypress]

i was about to do an emote

but i w ont

[fair bronze]

But most people I see doing actual dumb stuff drive a Peugeot

[tight cypress]

okay

[fair bronze]

I don't have anything against the brand

[tight cypress]

people tell me s ome eurodance songs

[fair bronze]

blue

dabadee

[stoic ledge]

Maybe it's a northern thing, not here tho xD

[tight cypress]

i need an 8gb usb stick full of em

[stoic ledge]

Oof oldskool

[tight cypress]

i have some already

i think you can read the name...

[fair bronze]

määnniinööpp

[stoic ledge]

https://www.autointernationaal.nl/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/OpelInsigniaExclusivePrijs.jpg

Insignia Exclusive pogey

Not sure I'd order it in that color

[fair bronze]

I saw a Sports Tourer driving yesterday

[indigo coral]

thats a nice colour

[fair bronze]

Can't remember I've seen it in the wild before

[tight cypress]

hmm 0pel

i can only hear plastic

[fair bronze]

No you can't

You only hear bass

[tight cypress]

hmm

[stoic ledge]

Insignia outsold the Passat so far this year ;) And the color is nice, but (imho) it doesn't fit the car

[tight cypress]

how much songs can my sony radio take from usb

[stoic ledge]

Opel exclusive let's you choose from 16,800,000 colors tho

(:

[tight cypress]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333153188359

me have yes

[fair bronze]

@stoic ledge Did it in the NL?

[stoic ledge]

They did sell the exclusive in NL, yes

[fair bronze]

No I mean did it outsell the VW?

[stoic ledge]

Ah

Yes

[fair bronze]

Strange

[stoic ledge]

This year

Sec

[fair bronze]

I see the Passat everywhere but I rarely see the Insignia

And I don't live in the middle of nowhere either

[stoic ledge]

Passat 1229
Insignia 1239

Not a lot difference, but more xD

[fair bronze]

lmao

I like the Insignia way better though

[stoic ledge]

The Passat is just waaaaaaaay to expensive

[fair bronze]

The Passat looks sad

It doesn't want to be a Passat anymore

[stoic ledge]

Base model is 40k 1.5 150hp, for the same price you can get the Insignia in Business Executive, some extras, and the 1.6T 200hp

[fair bronze]

That's a way nicer car

[stoic ledge]

Yes

And it also looks nicer

[fair bronze]

Also the 1.6T is a great engine

[tight cypress]

imma kill myself

if my stereo wont support usb sticks

[stoic ledge]

And it's not imported by the mafia aka PON

[fair bronze]

oh

[stoic ledge]

If

[tight cypress]

whats the bet

that i will but lows to +10

[fair bronze]

Does it have a USB port

[tight cypress]

yes

[fair bronze]

If it does I don't see why it won't support

[tight cypress]

and it had an mode for usb

but i think it relates to ipod

[stoic ledge]

Depends on the format

[tight cypress]

ofc it has aux besauce why not

mp3

[stoic ledge]

Format of the usb stick

Fat32, NFTS etc

[tight cypress]

hmmmm

fat32

i can always change the format

[stoic ledge]

Should werk

[tight cypress]

yyes

imma hate wiring the RCA and the cable to battery

and ground to seatbelt attach

ofc

anything else should be easy

[stoic ledge]

Lol

[fair bronze]

All for the farty clean bass

[tight cypress]

its actually clean

[fair bronze]

Oh sorry

ftfy

[tight cypress]

umm

lyrics?

btw delete before an mod sees it

[eager kite]

https://youtu.be/p27mK-w3Ffs

Gotta love the irony having the fuck cancer sticker while rolling coal...

[dense shard]

He has issues in bed and must announce it to the world by rolling coal.

[fair bronze]

"I think I am better than you so I will now have black smoke coming out of my exhaust pipe"

[dense shard]

I mean it's that or the driver is 19.

[fair bronze]

Or both

[winter oasis]

thought that 19 year-olds would drive mostly honda civics?

[dense shard]

Oh they drive trucks in the South.

[winter oasis]

cool

[dense shard]

Till you realize the thing they're driving is beyond their skill level.

[winter oasis]

do they use them as trucks tho

[fair bronze]

No

[dense shard]

Sometimes.

[winter oasis]

i see on rare occasions a pickup, like a real pickup imported from the US

those things are fucking massive

[dense shard]

yep

And most people haven't a clue on how to drive em.

America's biggest saving grace is having roads wide enough to allow for idiocy.

[tight cypress]

meanwhile finnish youngsters

[stoic ledge]

Lol

[tight cypress]

waiting for the exhaust

....

[stoic ledge]

Don't they deliver at midnight? How outrageous!

[tight cypress]

hmm

hong kong ot finland

imma think its 1 week

[flint sable]

Silver raptor parked near our red one

The dude left the airport when we did aswell

[fathom socket]

ha

love those cars with good stories http://prntscr.com/pivm3l

lamborghini and ferrari are nice too but the people can be jerks to you when you drive them sadly

but in the screen shot they won't hate those cars

because they are rarely sold to chosen ones

one day I will own a lexus LFA

[indigo coral]

^^^

by far my favourite supercar

[fathom socket]

Very good car :)

[eager kite]

Opinions on the Pininfarina Battista?

[indigo coral]

its certainly polarizing

but I kinda like it

[fathom socket]

you can really tell it wasnt designed by pininfarina

rip sergio

you're designing cars in heaven now

[dense shard]

It sounds like it'll bomb... Battista Bomb.

Joking aside... I think it looks quite nice.

A bit Ferrari-ish, but nice.

[fair bronze]

The blue nose is just weird though

[dense shard]

Blue is electricity.

Gotta show your green cred.

[fair bronze]

To me it looks like just another car in GTA Online

[wheat hatch]

True

[fathom socket]

Imagine if the blue nose was green

[dense shard]

blah

Like like blue being the eco color.

It's more pleasant than green or read.

Also the greens automakers manage are pretty toxic looking... Not very vibrant or interesting.

[indigo coral]

I quite like the blue nose actually

My least favorite part is the rear wheel area

[tight cypress]

oh boy

wiring tomorrow

imma hate it so much

[fair bronze]

What about the exhaust

[tight cypress]

yet delivering

[fair bronze]

Hmm

[tight cypress]

im waiting

hong kong to finland aint an short trip

delivery in progress

yuss

[fair bronze]

Hopefully the riots don't effect delivery times

[tight cypress]

wait

was hong kong in japan

or china

cant remember lol

honk kong has more people than my whole country

[dense shard]

...

Hong Kong is a part of China.

[fathom socket]

https://youtu.be/m_s2KIBP6CY

I wouldn't be able to get up from my seat during that acceleration if I was a passenger

Rip breaks

[dense shard]

Brakes probably made to take the heat.

Faster from 0-400 than a diesel rabbit was from 0-100.

The fact it was done without a conventional transmission is crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glf_k4qGBAA This is probably the coolest part.

[fathom socket]

It's impressive lol

[fathom socket]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/413399090370445342/633101908181254155/71960945_10213395360592321_5535141572326195200_n.png

[stoic ledge]

Ok what is Toyota thinking... after the fun, limited edition Yaris GRMN (Gazoo Racing Masters of the Nurburgring), they give us a lightened version of the Toyota Yaris: the GR Sport. Sound like fun: updated chassis, Sachs suspension, anti-roll bar, lowered suspension... and then they use a 1.5 Hybrid with a CVT

Why Toyota, why?

[wheat hatch]

.kek.

[tropic silo]

Lol wtf

Owners: "Oh boi! I'm so excited to floor it"
Powertrain:

[indigo coral]

mine just decides that it's not gonna go sometimes

[tropic silo]

Better then a CVT 😄

[stoic ledge]

CVT be like jeej 6000rpm all the time

[indigo coral]

I'd bet a CVT would be better

[stoic ledge]

A CVT is actually better: always max power on demand (= most efficient), but also the lowest amount of rpm possible when driving at constant speeds. It's the best of both worlds, but it is in no way fun are engaging to drive.

Toyota has been improving their CVT tho, simulating actual gears when accelerating. Works quite well, most people won't even notice it. It shifts like a regular auto when accelerating, but can keep the gear ratio as low as possible on constant speeds (:

[indigo coral]

Is a 4 speed fun/engaging to drive? Nope .

[chrome grail]

The other issue with CVTs is torque capacity isn't much higher than what the engine currently produces.

[dense shard]

Which isn't really an issue as very few people actually modify their cars.

That being said I'm not sure what the point is of adding "gears" to a CVT is.

You're covering up the best feature of the CVT. Let the sucker rubberband and push me into the most efficient bands!

On one hand I get it... CVTs don't feel as great. But on the other hand... It's a CVT.

[stoic ledge]

Well I like the sportyness from the gears while accelerating, combined with the most efficient ratios while normal driving

[rotund matrix]

if you "simulate gears" you defeat the point of a CVT

I've got a CVT and sure it's nothing amazing to drive but hey it's not bad at all, and it really doesn't need to simulate gears

it's kinda funny to floor it on an on-ramp and just sit at high RPMs the whole time as you gain speed rather than shifting

[dense shard]

It's a weird feeling, but I don't hate it.

My only issue is with the long term durability of CVTs.

[rotund matrix]

yeah, and if your CVT gets fucked you essentially just have to buy a new transmission

or get a used CVT

my Rogue is getting close to 150k miles, and the CVT is holding on fine from what i can tell (thankfully)

[dense shard]

That's good.

I'm gonna guess not wailing on it and following service schedules helps.

[rotund matrix]

ye, fluid changes and don't treat it like shit

ofc I've only had it for a bit under a year now

had 142k when i got it...so not sure on the history

but no issues whilst I've had it

[dense shard]

If it works it works.

[carmine summit]

our truck feels like it has a CVT until it shifts into high gear

I think the converter is getting weak, if you floor it to accelerate it just sits at like 2200 rpm through every gear until it shifts into overdrive.

[stoic ledge]

if you "simulate gears" you defeat the point of a CVT

True, but it's only a software limitation. If you drive it normal or in D more, it will shift bands like you're used to. Only in sport mode it simulates gears when accelerating stuck_out_tongue

I like the concept of a CVT, but the whining is annoying stuck_out_tongue

Anyway: manual ftw wink

[indigo coral]

tbh I'd trade

I feel like I'ma blow up my engine when I get up in the 4k+ area

[fair bronze]

My grandma has a Honda CVT and I think it's actually very nice to drive

Even has the option to hold gears with flappy pedals (which is very useful in steep climbing)

[stoic ledge]

My grandpa has a robotised manual, just like the Ferrari F1 gearbox pogey

[fair bronze]

It isn't fast but not every car has to be fast (perfectly fast enough for everyday use)

What car?

[stoic ledge]

Dacia Sandero (:

[indigo coral]

my parents cars have Ford 6 speeds... They're fine I suppose

not lightning but decent

[fair bronze]

Oh lol

[stoic ledge]

Faster than a Dacia xD

[fair bronze]

Great news!

[stoic ledge]

Yes, exactly

It's their 2nd Sandero pogey

[fair bronze]

They're pretty good cars actually

Just simple cheap Renaults

[stoic ledge]

Yeah they aren't bad, but too expensive on the used car market imho

They hold their value quite well

And the one they have now is the 0.9 TCe... Which vibrates the car when stationary

Doesn't really feel that... Refined

[fair bronze]

Just don't sit stationary :)

Fixed

[stoic ledge]

Their older 2011 Sandero (1.2) did run much smoother, but that was a 4-cyl ofc

^^ yes

xD

[fair bronze]

But the 1.2 isn't as quick

There is always a tradeoff

[stoic ledge]

They switched due to the transmission, otherwise he would still have their old car

He wanted to drive an auto

[fair bronze]

I get that, my grandma always had a manual as well

She was a bit scared at first but now she loves it

[stoic ledge]

He did crash it into the garage door

[fair bronze]

oof

Foot slipped?

[stoic ledge]

releases brake

Car: flies off

He backed out of the garage, thought it was in neutral

But he put it back in to drive

[fair bronze]

Oh dang

I think they're reasonably inexpensive to repair though

[stoic ledge]

Still a 2k repair job iirc

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/375461451403624471/543404095499796482/178576807_1_big__01.jpg

pogey

[fair bronze]

big oof

They're pretty nice now, especially for the price

[indigo coral]

My grandma backed her newer RX into a sign, dented the rear quarter

7k to get it repaired

[fair bronze]

That's painful

[indigo coral]

and they didnt even take out the dent

[fair bronze]

Insured I hope?

[indigo coral]

just made ot less obvious and repainted the area

[stoic ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/223911633682956290/554048947392610314/IMG-20190224-WA0011__01.jpg

[indigo coral]

nope, insurance refused to cover it

[fair bronze]

Dang

[indigo coral]

because it was on her private property

they told her to get lost

[fair bronze]

Nice huh

[stoic ledge]

OOF

[fair bronze]

Insurance always tries to find a way to get out of the situation

[stoic ledge]

I think they did pay for my grandparents damage

[fair bronze]

They better

I mean you still pay them

[stoic ledge]

True

He had the car for just 2 days

But it's fixed now, and you can never see it was there

[fair bronze]

Even more painful

[stoic ledge]

Accidents happen :( Luckily it's only car and not them

[fair bronze]

Yes of course

That's always worse

[heady ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb5VfiFy0kY when you can learn more about fuel from a guy on the internet then you ever will reading product manuals

[indigo coral]

yeah too damn bad I ain't using premium 😂

my car has been fine for twenty years on 87

[heady ridge]

fair i always go the cheaper fuel when i can

also if people think aus has better fuel because of the numbers we use nah its pure rubbish

we have 0 wait times on when you can fill after a tanker has been ive filled even with the tanker still delivering

[fair bronze]

Hey guys!

This is Austin

ChrisFix here!

[indigo coral]

lexus is like hey use premium

and i'm like hey fat nope

[fair bronze]

It's still a Toyota

And they run on basically anything

[indigo coral]

yeah and the engine isn't stressed/in a high state of tune

so

also gas is really expensive here -.-

[fair bronze]

No reason to go premium

[stoic ledge]

fills gas tank with mayonaise

Nope doesn't run

[fair bronze]

Like a true Belgian

[heady ridge]

if you want a car that ran on anything my 1989 ford laser ran on fuel that smelled like paint varnish

[indigo coral]

lol

Oh yeah

my friend got a 2004 X3

She now has gotten her introduction to BM-Troubleyou ownership

(severe misfire, needs new coils.)

5 days old

lmao

[fathom socket]

i mean

it's literally contained to 1 panel you can swap out

but yeah it sucks

[indigo coral]

still the butt of bm-troubleyou jokes

and theyre fairly expensive arent they?

[stoic ledge]

I've also replaced the coil pack in my car, it's something that has to be replaced after x miles

[indigo coral]

ye it was just funny because its so new (to them)

and then it broke

lol

so now I get to send her broken bmw memes

[stoic ledge]

Ah yes, but that can happen when you buy a car

Lol

Nice

I approve ok_hand

But it's 15 y/o, so stuff like that can happen

[indigo coral]

ye

[indigo coral]

just like how my 20y/o car likes to eat oil :)

[eager kite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoNe7QMumaM

[stoic ledge]

just like how my 20y/o car likes to eat oil :)

Yeah some wear is normal (:

[unreal terrace]

1l/1000km is "acceptable" by automakers

[stoic ledge]

VW pogey

[indigo coral]

I'm not sure exactly how quick it goes

my dipstick was at the full line ~2500 miles ago and now its right in the middle

[unreal terrace]

I've heard it directly from VW, Ive heard it 2md hand from BMW and Saab

[indigo coral]

4.3 quarts go in the engine

so its probably way too high but whatever

its not a huge deal

just add a bit every few weeks

[stoic ledge]

Bwah that's not eating oil

[unreal terrace]

I'd say that's normal

Turbocharged engine?

[indigo coral]

nah

3L V6

Toyota 1MZ-FE

in my Lexus RX 300 (yes I know, bad car but I like it)

[unreal terrace]

Meh, within reason

[indigo coral]

I've never seen blue smoke or anything like that

[unreal terrace]

Ugly, yeah but bad idk, probably better built than most parts of the USA

[indigo coral]

Mine's the first gen

1999

[stoic ledge]

Dipstick high-low is ± 1 quart, 2500 miles with half a quart is 5000 miles (= 8k km) a quart/± liter

[indigo coral]

I think its kinda cool, one of the first few hundred produced in a super limited colour but I'm kinda weird

[stoic ledge]

That's within 8 times VWs factory spec

(:

[unreal terrace]

You're talking to the guy with a 2l Fiat Punto diesel 🤣 they don't come weirder than that

[indigo coral]

Lol

It's my first car, and it does pretty well.

[unreal terrace]

Yeah Toyotas are really good cars

[indigo coral]

only 130k miles atm

[unreal terrace]

🤔

I've had 3 or 4 Toyota Corolla 1999-2001s

[stoic ledge]

They all rusted away pogey

[unreal terrace]

4 BMW 5ers (93, 94, 98 and one 86)

They actually didn't, the first one I had had done 350.000km and had no rust whatsoever

[indigo coral]

biggest downsides of my car are the fuel cost and the transmission ;-;

[unreal terrace]

And a golf and a focus, worst two cars I've ever had

Then 2 scooby legacy's and now a fiat

[indigo coral]

I'm intending to save up and get a Stinger GT / Genesis G70 in a few years

[stoic ledge]

Yikes Toyota -> Golf

[indigo coral]

toyota aint fancy but its damn good quality (usually)

[unreal terrace]

Brand new genesis?

[indigo coral]

used

[unreal terrace]

Oh

[indigo coral]

they're depreciating like crazy

[unreal terrace]

Every considerd the GT86?

[indigo coral]

a 1 year old Stinger w/ 3k miles can be had for 30k

[stoic ledge]

Yeah G70's aren't worth buying new xD

[indigo coral]

Oh god no

I need something way more practical than a GT86 lol

[stoic ledge]

I suggest the Toyota Previa

[indigo coral]

😂

[stoic ledge]

(:

[unreal terrace]

Or the Honda FRV? 🤣

[stoic ledge]

Mid-engine, turbocharged, RWD

[indigo coral]

...Or I could just get a Stinger/G70

🙂

[unreal terrace]

Ye

[stoic ledge]

Uhm I don't think they had the FRV in the US

[indigo coral]

I mean if you get a CPO one you can keep the 10yr warranty too

so

yeet

[stoic ledge]

Y33t

Would buy

[indigo coral]

yep I want one xD

[stoic ledge]

Too bad there are 0 G70s here, and you know about the Stinger pricing

(:

[indigo coral]

There's a few used G70s for sale and loads of Stingers

[unreal terrace]

Or a 5er :p

[indigo coral]

I suspect a Stinger will be more reliable than a 5er

[stoic ledge]

Probably

[indigo coral]

(plus ten year warranty yes)

[unreal terrace]

I'd say probably not, but idk I haven't dealt with that new of a car

[stoic ledge]

We only get 7 years warranty on Kia cry

[unreal terrace]

We get 8 from Kia

And I think 8 from Hyundai also

[indigo coral]

10 🙂 6 for limited, 10 for powertrain

afaik

[stoic ledge]

7 Kia, 5 Hyundai, 3 Toybota, all other 2

[unreal terrace]

If I ever got to buy a brand new car, I'd probably go for a scooby or actually a fiat

Or maybe a Suzuki or honda

[stoic ledge]

Depends on how rich I am xD

But otherwise I'd buy used, even just 1 year old kr something

You save so much money

[unreal terrace]

Yeah

And let's face it, a 5er that done 30.000km isn't "used"

[stoic ledge]

Nope, but it's half the price of a new one

stuck_out_tongue

Ok first 5er I found: 520d, 2018, 21k km. New price: €66.669. For sale now: €37.809

That's a massive saving

[unreal terrace]

Precisely :p

And they don't depreciate much after that either so, win win I'd say

[stoic ledge]

Exactly

That's why I wouldn't buy new, except is it's a company car ofc (or I'm rich af xD)

[fair bronze]

Used ftw

New is the nicest of course but it really costs

[dense shard]

Not that much more right now.

Used car prices in the US have gotten stupid expensive.

[indigo coral]

for some cars

[dense shard]

For most cars you'd want to buy.

So any Toyota, Honda, or even Nissan.

If you are buying... checking the new market isn't a bad idea right now.

[indigo coral]

nissan only makes shit

[dense shard]

I disagree.

My family's Rogue is quite nice.

Very very comfortable.

[indigo coral]

We had a rogue as a rental car

Slow as all hell and the interior was shit

All cheap, hard plastic

[dense shard]

It isn't all hard plastic though.

I've poked all the interiors on the base Rogue.

And it's fast enough tbh.

[indigo coral]

it's hellishly slow wym

[dense shard]

You clearly haven't driven hellishly slow.

[indigo coral]

My 20y/o Rx is significantly quicker

I would never purchase a nissan

[dense shard]

Ah yes... your compact crossover with a V6 is faster than a large I4 Nissan.

[indigo coral]

a shitty, old v6

lol

its 20 years old versus a brand new car

[dense shard]

I wouldn't call the Rogue painfully slow.

It's not fast sure, but it moves with enough verve.

Slow is a 99 Saturn SL1.

An 04 Daihatsu Mira.

Actually hit 33 mpg on the highway with the Rogue.

That's pretty damn good for something that shape and size.

It's a crossover for the masses, and at least it doesn't have any gas in oil issues like Honda's 1.5T does.

[heady ridge]

slow is a ford laser

This thing was slow

foot to the floor it was still nearly a minute to hit 60km/h

[dense shard]

It's been 2 months since I bought my car.

Still love her.

[civic girder]

that reminds me of the Nike highlighter green TRD Corolla hatchback with Scion badges that someone in my town has

[dense shard]

My car is blue, green, black, but mostly green.

[civic girder]

I am approaching 2 months on my new car, love it

been some.......work

but wonderful regardless

[dense shard]

I'm hoping this week will be me driving to Atlanta and back without the AC running.

So I might hit 40mpg.

Which would be epic.

[civic girder]

depending on the car, I can get significantly more or significantly less than 40mpg

[dense shard]

I'm sure I could hit 40 easily enough.

But my area of the US is a bit hilly.

[civic girder]

oof

I haven't figured out the secret to mid 20s mpg in the RX-7 yet
but I breathe 50mpg in the Prius

I probably just need to read the manual again and nail down the economical shift points

all I know is 1st to 2nd at 14-15mph and 2nd to 3rd at 24-25mph

[dense shard]

I've found it doesn't matter for me.

3-4k shifts minimum to make it up the hills.

[civic girder]

well the Corolla is an auto right

[dense shard]

no, I have a manual.

[civic girder]

oh nice

[dense shard]

Otherwise I could probably make over 40 easy.

[civic girder]

yea, probably

hills leach speed, and therefore makes your engine have to drincc more

[dense shard]

I've also been super lazy.

And letting my cruise control take the lead.

[civic girder]

hypermiling is fun

I still use cruise control on the highway, hover around 50mpg around 70mph

[dense shard]

I paid 23.5k for my car, and I plan to use all the features available to me.

[civic girder]

but I avoid cruise like the plague when in town or driving short distances

accelerate up to speed limit quickly (but not aggressively) and maintain speed (relative to traffic and weather)

coast whenever possible, even using neutral (despite being a CVT)

and maintaining distance between the car ahead so I can coast rather than brake if they are turning

[dense shard]

That is the one true annoyance I've found in my car.

She'll hit the brakes when someone is pulling off the highway.

Modern cars are smart, but they can still be fooled.

[civic girder]

this is why I dislike lane assist bs

how to ruin fuel economy 101

[dense shard]

It's not lane assist.

It's the radar cruise control.

[civic girder]

you know what I mean

[dense shard]

And people being shit at driving.

[civic girder]

that's universal

[dense shard]

I have no clue why people are so invested in slowing down to 35 BEFORE slipping into the exit lane.

Like... y'all got the exit lane to do the slowing down there.

[civic girder]

isn't radar cruise often bundled with lane assist tho?

[dense shard]

It is with my car.

[civic girder]

yea

[dense shard]

And I quite like the lane keep assist.

[civic girder]

lazy

[dense shard]

Not lazy.

It's peace of mind and added security.

[civic girder]

I'd freak the fuck out when my car starts changing direction on its oown

[dense shard]

And it beats hitting the rumble strip.

I have the steering assist off.

It just beeps.

[civic girder]

oh god

[dense shard]

Though the active steering is very subtle.

[civic girder]

even worse

[dense shard]

It's a nice quiet beeping.

[civic girder]

I know the pain of beeps from my Prius reverse gear

[dense shard]

No beeping for me in reverse.

[civic girder]

lets beep INSIDE the car

[dense shard]

I know a dozen people who would have benefitted from that.

[civic girder]

probably

for me, I'm smart enough that it's my one true complaint with the car

[dense shard]

I'm old enough to know I'm not infallible.

[civic girder]

But I've also had the car long enough that I've chalked it up to being a quirk of the car

[dense shard]

And frankly... I've figured out a few things.

Blind spot monitoring should be mandatory.

Back up cameras are evil.

And there is no such thing as an overactive safety system.

That last one took me over a month to figure out.

[civic girder]

I never use my backup cam
and most people need blind spot, but I was a paranoid teenager and learned to live without it

[dense shard]

Same.

But I like the added benefit to me turning my head and having my mirrors set correctly.

[civic girder]

I often check two or three times before committing to a lane change

[dense shard]

Triple protection is better than double.

That being said my BSM is way more proactive on letting me change lanes.

I wish I could set the distance a bit longer on the highway. lol

[civic girder]

I learned the multiple checks after having nearly been run off the road by assholes refusing to change lanes on empty SIX lane highways while I'm merging
the scariest was an 18 wheeler while I was in the RX-7

commuting the same highway everyday does not mean you can stay out of an accident by near blind merging

[dense shard]

As for over active safety.

I figured out the system by driving more aggressively than usual.

If the system beeps at you for pulling up too fast to someone... the system isn't the issue. YOU are.

[civic girder]

My mom's van doesn't have very advanced systems
the backup camera has lines to show if your wheels are turned (and how sharply); which would make me use my backup camera more if I had that
the dash has a little "radar" thing when in reverse that roughly tells you how close you are to something behind you (and it beeps aggressively the closer you get to something, no beeps if you're not near anything)

the side mirrors don't have the blindspot mirrors (thank god, I think they look ugly as fuck and I can never see anything in them anyways), but they have these little orange triangles that light up when something is in your blindspot; and it beeps aggressively at you if your signal is on and something is in your blindspot

imo, it's the perfect system for me

just too bad my Prius doesn't have any of it because it's a 2009

[dense shard]

oh yeah, I do wonder about people who don't use turn signals in new cars.

My car bugs me each time I don't signal any kind of lane change.

[civic girder]

I'm not sure for other cars

[dense shard]

Lane departure in full effect.

All modern cars do it that have it.

And I sincerely doubt the average driver is smart enough to turn those things off.

[civic girder]

how the fuck do people still not use turn signals then

[dense shard]

Unless they do because it beeps at them when they just want to text.

That's my question.

HOW?!

Only time I don't use it is this one weird stretch of road where a lane merges into another, but due to legalities the other lane doesn't have any cars in it ever.

Beeps at me regardless. lol

[civic girder]

I use my turn signals for 98% of maneuvers, even if I know 100% with absolute confidence that I am the only car in the immediate area

[dense shard]

Pretty much.

[civic girder]

parking lot? turn signal

[dense shard]

Not gonna lie. If I'm tired enough I think about trying to signal I'm going straight.

[civic girder]

lol

about the only places I don't use turn signals are turning onto my driveway (when no cars are around), and when a lane is added to the road and I want to be in that lane (even then I sometimes use my signal)

[dense shard]

(don't press forward, you're only gonna blind the person going in the other direction)

oh, actually automatic highbeams are great.

They're not perfect, but they're great.

[civic girder]

my dumb ass forgets the high beams exist most of the time

and when I remember, I then proceed to forget they're turned on

[dense shard]

I'm brutally aware of highbeams.

My Corolla's headlights aren't the most excellent ever made.

[civic girder]

normally I can catch myself if it's in the morning, but at night I usually forget until the approaching car flashes me or I'm right up on them

[dense shard]

Then again they're pretty damn great.

[civic girder]

neither of my cars have great headlights

[dense shard]

But highbeams are just superb.

Still beats my Suzuki.

That car was bad with high beams and low beams.

[civic girder]

the Prius is old enough that they're beginning to fog up, and the brights are basically useless
the RX-7 has sealed beams, so the brights are pretty useless as well

[dense shard]

Hopefully I'll never have to replace my headlights.

[civic girder]

low beams are pretty good for most situations in them, which is normally why I forget that brights exist

[dense shard]

LED ftw

[civic girder]

I had to replace my Prius headlights last fall

e x t r e m e p a i n

the best way to replace the bulbs is to remove the headlight assembly
which you can only do if you take off the fenders and front bumper

otherwise you're doing it blind in a cramped space

[dense shard]

I let the auto shop change out the headlights in my Suzuki.

[civic girder]

the RX-7 I anticipate will be easier to do, since they're sealed beams

[dense shard]

Good thing I did.

It took them 15 minutes.

[civic girder]

ha

it took me 3 hours to do both sides

(because I decided it was best to replace both at once, even though only 1 was actually out)

[dense shard]

Taking a look at my car. Fairly easy to change it.

Also I love the swag lights.

Or whatever you call em.

[civic girder]

running lights?

[dense shard]

Sure?

[civic girder]

if not, idk what you mean

[dense shard]

They're not DRLs.

[civic girder]

DRLs and running lights are two different things

[dense shard]

It's the lights one switch before headlights. lol

[civic girder]

probably running lights

[dense shard]

maybe this picture?

ah yes, this is it.

You get the swoopy bits. Love that.

[civic girder]

DRLs are certain parts of the light assemblies that glow during the day, automatically
running lights are usually one step on the switch before low beams

both my cars have running lights, but no DRLs