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dense shard
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I'm still angry Ford killed the SVT logo.

indigo coral
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the 450hp in the ST is not a hybrid though

stoic ledge
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According to the EU cycle, the Explorer PHEV geta 69 (hurr hurr) MPG 😂

dense shard
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sure, why not

indigo coral
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fuck you bot

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thats like saying my buddy's Volt gets 250+ mpg because thats what the screen says

dense shard
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I've gotten 38 on the highway in my new Corolla.

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Mind you I took a penalty for both manual transmission and XSE trim.

indigo coral
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yeah so the highest I've mdae is 24 and that was driving on overall downhills, at 50mph, no stopping

desert glen
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My Volvo was a highway car, it sucked in the city

indigo coral
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like not direct downhill but overall i ended up going down

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why did it suck in the city?

stoic ledge
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That's why the emissions tax on the Explorer is €900, and on a 1.0 Ecoboost Focus €4000 🙃

desert glen
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Turbo, ontop of already bad milelage

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And broken ac

dense shard
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Welcome to financial incentives.

indigo coral
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ah

dense shard
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At least it isn't going to diesels anymore.

indigo coral
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my RX does actually fairly well in the cirty

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city*

dense shard
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I live in a hilly area.

indigo coral
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I drove it in dense metro area like between skyscrapers city and it did fairly well

dense shard
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So best I can do is maybe 24.

indigo coral
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except for the exhaust leak was obnoxious

desert glen
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It just made bumper to bumper pretty bad because i’d have to keep myself from flying into the back of another car

indigo coral
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OOoof I've sat in many hours of bumper to bumper traffic in my car

desert glen
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Because the boost started building at a relatively low rpm

indigo coral
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weird.

stoic ledge
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I get like 30MPG with my 1.2 😂 But that's on LPG, converted to gas it's ± 35MPG

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But I floor it all the time xD

desert glen
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I’m still on my first fillup

stoic ledge
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pogey

desert glen
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I used e-15

stoic ledge
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Yikes

indigo coral
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I go through my entire tank in like

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5 days

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😄

stoic ledge
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Depends, my gas tank literally takes months

desert glen
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I was filling my volvo just about every week

stoic ledge
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LPG... 4 days xD

indigo coral
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I finally crossed 130k miles

desert glen
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According to my computer i’m due to get about 300 and some change from this tank

stoic ledge
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I've covered 4000km now with 10L of gas 🙃

indigo coral
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how much lpg

desert glen
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I drive a lot in the city

stoic ledge
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A lot xD

desert glen
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And its bumper to bumper when i’m there so

stoic ledge
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300+L of LPG xD

desert glen
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How much does it cost there?

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I helped a guy at work one day who ran LPG as his main

stoic ledge
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Uhm I refuel across the border, LPG is cheap. Like €0.352/L atm. That's like 1.50 USD/gallon if my calculations are correct?

Regular gas is expensive af in my country, like 7.50/gallon. LPG in my country is like 3USD/gallon

indigo coral
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I estimated about 20k USD of gas has been put in my car over its life

stoic ledge
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I don't see why more people run on LPG

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Waaay cheaper, better for the environment

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It's like a win-win situation

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My fuel bill over the last 3 years is quite reasonable xD

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Insurance is expensive tho

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Like 45% of my expenses

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30% road tax

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So the other 25% in maintaince, fuel etc

desert glen
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Not incentivized unless you drive a commercial vehicle

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Frito-lay has LPG powered tractors

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Atleast a good portion of them are

stoic ledge
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pogey

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Nice

desert glen
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I also think propane isn’t as available here in large quantities

stoic ledge
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Rip

desert glen
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As far as just going out and buying it goes

stoic ledge
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Many gas stations here have LPG (:

desert glen
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A lot of gas stations in the US still don’t offer e-85

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atleast in my experiences

stoic ledge
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E85 is rare in 🇳🇱 too (like 4 stations xD), but there are countries where it's popular

civic girder
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me any my 100hp 87 octane zoomer

desert glen
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I think for some people, the reduced mileage is worth the low cost

stoic ledge
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Oof the LPG market share in 🇳🇱 is only 1.4% yikes

desert glen
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I might just go back to reg87, only like 2 cents more and can squeeze a few more miles out of a tank

civic girder
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87 octane is actually pretty damn good

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both my cars run it

stoic ledge
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My racemonsters runs premium (:

desert glen
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I’ll run 93/95 from time to time

stoic ledge
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1.2L deserves nothing but the best

civic girder
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pros of having a sports car from the 80s, premium didn't exist yet

desert glen
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But not really worth it

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I used it for a bit when gas was really cheap tho

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Because why not

civic girder
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I'd get like 8mpg lower with anything higher than 87 in my daily lol

desert glen
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Its a good gunk cleaner

stoic ledge
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(regular has 10% ethanol, mine barely uses gas, so it stays long in the tank. Ethanol staying in the tank for long is bad. Premium has Almost 0% ethanol)

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That's why I use Premium xD

civic girder
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I drive frequently, so the ethanol content doesn't bother me

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at most my cars will sit for a week without being driven, but that's extremely rare

desert glen
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All I care about is that I spend less and get the more from a tank

civic girder
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^

stoic ledge
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Well yeah but mine runs on a different fuel 99% of the time xD

civic girder
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Of course, when I park up my FB for the winter I'm going to dump fuel stabilizer in the tank to break up the ethanol; the tank is already rusty enough as is

stoic ledge
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pogey rusty tanks

desert glen
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I use gas with ethanol in it in yard machines

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B )

civic girder
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same

stoic ledge
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> having yard machines

desert glen
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Not supposed to tho

civic girder
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but those motors don't really give a shit, and they have plastic tanks

desert glen
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I don’t think its necessarily a tank thing

civic girder
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hell, you could run a lawnmower with a wooden head and it would run great

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albeit not for very long

desert glen
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I just hear ethanol gas is bad for small motors

civic girder
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just spray some seafoam in there every once in a while, it'll be fine

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I can't justify spending more money for premium gas on a tiny ass motor that cuts grass

desert glen
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Its just hard to find non ethanol gas

civic girder
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non ethanol 87 is a unicorn these days

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some places will have lower ethanol than others, but I haven't seen a single station with 0% ethanol content

desert glen
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I’d just rather drive 20 seconds up the road to a gas station than to drive 8 minutes to the gas station with non eth 87

civic girder
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that too

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for my FB, I don't even give a shit; it already burns oil and I dump a bit of supertech 2 stroke in the gass too; non eth gas isn't going to improve my efficiency by much

stoic ledge
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I go to a different country to refuel pogey

desert glen
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Must be nice

civic girder
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if only I lived that close to Canada, I'd get gas for pennies

desert glen
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When I used to go up to MI my grandparents lived on the border

stoic ledge
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(I litteraly live 400meter (1/4 mile) from the border, and study abroad in the neighboring country so I'm there anyways)

desert glen
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Only problem was is that the entry point was a major interstate

stoic ledge
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It's literally further to refuel in my country than across the border

civic girder
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My only problem with living next to the border is that most of the states I'd want to live in, I don't want to live in

desert glen
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Canada isn’t a bad neighbor

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Mexico on the other hand

civic girder
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Living in Michigan would be pretty sucky, especially Detroit; New York wouldn't be very great either

desert glen
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Meh, its just flat

civic girder
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Alaska tho, that would be pretty nice

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It's too bad Ohio doesn't border Canada

desert glen
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The only part of MI i really enjoy is the north

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I mean

civic girder
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the only part of MI I enjoy is when I leave it

desert glen
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It technically does I belive

civic girder
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Lake Eerie borders Canada, but Ohio does not have a land border with Canada; so you can't cross the border from Ohio

desert glen
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True

civic girder
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if there was a land border, I'd pack my bags and move close to it

stoic ledge
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silently watches while he has never been to North America

civic girder
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a US citizen in Canada is a rich man, relatively speaking

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everything is cheaper, except electronics

desert glen
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North America is alright

civic girder
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just don't go too far south

desert glen
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Its pretty in the non flat parts

civic girder
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hey, Ohio is pretty

desert glen
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Pshh

civic girder
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not as pretty as Colorado or West Virginia tho

desert glen
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Columbus is the only city in Ohio I enjoy

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West Virginia is pretty

civic girder
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and Oklahoma, Kansas, and Nebraska are the most depressingly bland states I've been to

desert glen
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Just don’t go into the towns and cities

civic girder
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true, lol

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I-68 has good scenery, but when you drive through the big towns it's pretty ugly

desert glen
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I actually quite enjoy Marion Ohio also

civic girder
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idk if I've been there

desert glen
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Its right on the border of WVA and Oh

civic girder
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oh yea, I've never been there

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wait

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maybe

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depends on which highway it's along

desert glen
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Its a stopover town

civic girder
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which highway?

stoic ledge
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I've never been there, that's for sure xD

desert glen
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Im sorry

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Marietta

civic girder
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ok, I think I've been through there actually

desert glen
civic girder
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We travel through West Virginia (because fuck Pennsylvania Turnpike) to get to my Uncle's place in Virginia

desert glen
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VA’s pretty cool

civic girder
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I hate most of their highways

desert glen
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But I live there

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81 sucks tho

civic girder
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Yea, everytime I go, I hate driving

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81 is a bitch

desert glen
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The Valley is nice

civic girder
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83 isn't much better either

desert glen
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NOVA sucks

civic girder
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idk much about VA

desert glen
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Northern VA

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Go to the center of DC and make a 55 mile line into VA And make a weird circle

civic girder
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I'm only there when I visit my Uncle near Winchester

desert glen
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Winchester is nice

civic girder
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eh

desert glen
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The cities up there are nice

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I avoid the interstates when i go up there

civic girder
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I'm also not a big fan of Columbus

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Dayton and Cinci are nice tho

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well, if you stay out of the sketch parts at least

desert glen
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I have a natural hate of ohio because my mom is from michigan

civic girder
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i-75 is a pain in the ass, but it's basically the only major highway near me

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people are like silver bullets on that road, they'll fly past you at 85mph

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and it's 65 from Dayton to Cinici

desert glen
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I mean

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If you drive a road enough you know what you can get away with

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When I come back from my girlfriends I do 80 in a 60

civic girder
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When you drive a road enough you can almost predict when there's going to be an accident because of idiots and then you avoid it and take the back roads

desert glen
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Its not the accident part really

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Its more/less the cops

civic girder
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I'm talking from my perspective

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I rarely speed, and when I do I go less than 5 over

desert glen
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And deputies where I live don’t do traffic stops

civic girder
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you mean direct traffic?

desert glen
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State Police

civic girder
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idk what you mean by "don't do traffic stops"

desert glen
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Pullovers

civic girder
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oh

desert glen
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Unless you do something stupid

civic girder
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Ohio is the land of getting pulled over for speeding

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you can only get away with speeding if you live here and you learn the speed trap spots

desert glen
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State police tend to stick to US460 here

civic girder
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or you're on highway 35 through Dayton where it's 55 when it should be 60

desert glen
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Deputies are pretty chill in my county tho

civic girder
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I've never been pulled over, even when screaming past a cop in my RX-7

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(because I was screaming past at 25mph in second gear, lmfao)

desert glen
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I can normally spot them pretty well

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So I can slow down before they get me

civic girder
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I've learned the spots and autopilot slow down when I pass by them now

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if I'm speeding

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otherwise I don't have anything to lose because I'm going barely over the limit

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I do speed more on the highway in the RX-7 tho, not having cruise control makes you not care about what speed you're going lmao

desert glen
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Virginia state police is also severely understaffed in my area

civic girder
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ooof

desert glen
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We still have the helicopter here tho

civic girder
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oof

desert glen
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But the no traffic stops is a sheriff decision

stoic ledge
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Cruise control == foot to the floor 😉

desert glen
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Might change with a new sheriff

civic girder
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In my daily I set my cruise to 66 in a 65 or 72 in a 70, etc

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in my RX-7, where I have no cruise control, I just kinda drive

desert glen
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I typically cruise 70 on my way to school and work

civic girder
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damn

stoic ledge
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I don't have CC so /shrug

civic girder
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my commute to work requires some back roads, so I can't average one speed all the way there

desert glen
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But i’m only cruising for about 2 minutes so

stoic ledge
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I usually go 135-140 (kmh that is)

civic girder
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jeebus

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that's like 80 something mph

stoic ledge
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So 85-ish mph

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Yes

civic girder
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that's lethal, god damn

stoic ledge
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Lol no

desert glen
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If I go 85 its a misdemeanor

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We need autobahns in the US

civic girder
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no we don't

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people are too dumb for that shit

stoic ledge
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Few weeks back came back from Gamescom, Germany on an unrestricted piece of autobahn. With 170kph (105mph) I was one of the skowrst xD

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(it was later on the evening tho)

civic girder
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you know how many people text and drive?
the US population would drop by a lot if we had autobahns

desert glen
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Natural selection

stoic ledge
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Text and drive is here too, I hate every single one of them

desert glen
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I only fiddle with my music

stoic ledge
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They can wrap their car around a tree, idc

civic girder
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it's not natural selection when the law abiding citizen gets rammed into a tree by an F-150 being driving by a white chick drinking starbucks and texting

desert glen
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Make everyone drive a manual

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Then they won’t have a free hand

stoic ledge
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Lol they still do

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Trust me

civic girder
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that's why my dad wants to give my brother a manual for his first car

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and my brother doesn't know how to drive standard

desert glen
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Manuals without power steering

civic girder
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That's how I learned to drive standard

desert glen
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Its pretty easy once you learn it

stoic ledge
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Power steering on the highway isn't really necessary

desert glen
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Not when your highways have consistent curves

civic girder
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I had only drive one other manual car before I got my RX-7, and I had only driven it once. It was an interesting learning experience that involved a new fuel pump

stoic ledge
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Mostly at low speed steering

desert glen
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I’ve only been driving manual for about 2 months

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Learned on an 94 ranger that required full depression and yanking it into gear

stoic ledge
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I've been driving manual since forever

civic girder
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My uncle's Willy's (only other manual I've driven) requires full depression and constant fiddling and praying to get into gear

desert glen
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I’ve been driving on my own for about 2 years

stoic ledge
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We have to take our driving test in a manual too. Well you can take it in an auto, but then you can never druve my a manual

civic girder
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my RX-7 requires half depression and little to no effort to get into gear

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but my clutch is fading

desert glen
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My focus is pretty easy

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And it snaps to center so 3rd and 4th are a breeze

civic girder
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like, in the Willy's, if you're at a stop light; you'll spend the whole time trying to make it go into first

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and then you'll probably struggle finding second

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and then you'll snap into third fairly easily

desert glen
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forgetting that you’re driving a manual sometimes

civic girder
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I did that when I was learning

stoic ledge
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^ lol that literally never happened to me

civic girder
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I was at a stop light and let off the clutch, forgetting I was in first

stoic ledge
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I do sometimes reach for the clutch the few times i drive an auto xD

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Always wiggle to check if it's in neutral ;)

desert glen
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I did it the other day, backed into a spot, pupped the brake and put in first, forgot i was gonna sot there for a few minutes then released the clutch without thinking

stoic ledge
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Yikes idking with the clutch in

civic girder
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my dad always wiggles the stick everytime he moves it

desert glen
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I don’t idle with it in

civic girder
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I don't either

stoic ledge
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Nice bot delet

desert glen
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I just forgot to put it in neutral before releasing

stoic ledge
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Oof

indigo coral
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lol rip

civic girder
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I did that once when learning

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but I haven't done it since

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out of fear of killing the fuel pump again, but I think that danger has passed

stoic ledge
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I did once release the clutch too soon after shutting of the engine

civic girder
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what

stoic ledge
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So it jumped forwards

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Towards a wall

civic girder
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your engine must have a lot of inertia

desert glen
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I need to take my car downtown and master hill starts

stoic ledge
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Well idk how it happened exactly

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xD

indigo coral
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I did an oopsy once.

civic girder
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best way to learn hillstarts: use a little bit of hand brake

indigo coral
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I was barely rolling when I put it in park so it kinda jerked to a stop, nothing broke though.

desert glen
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I do my hillstarts a shitty way

civic girder
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oh no

stoic ledge
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Floor it + release the clutch? xD

desert glen
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Release clutch until it starts to shake and add gas

civic girder
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lol

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if I tried that in my car the engine would die

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there's not enough torque for that

desert glen
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I did it with the truck

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The clutch is relatively new

civic girder
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like, starting normally with the A/C on in my car is a struggle

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because the A/C saps so much low end torque, it's ridiculous

desert glen
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My focus has hill start assist

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So

civic girder
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yoou're talking a 250-300 rpm drop at idle with A/C off

indigo coral
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yikes

stoic ledge
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Yikes a 300rpm idle drop would almost halve ny idle rpm xD

civic girder
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and since it's carbureted, there's no idle compensation

indigo coral
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My car idles at like

civic girder
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it halves my idle rpm, lol

indigo coral
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600

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so yeh it would half mine too

civic girder
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the RX-7 idles at 750

indigo coral
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well it idles at 2k when you turn it on and its really cold

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then it gradually decreases

civic girder
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and that's with no A/C and all the electrics off

stoic ledge
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Yeah that's normal falcon

indigo coral
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2k seems fairly high but yeah im not concerned

civic girder
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mine idles at normal speeds, because manual choke

stoic ledge
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Mine idles at 650-700 when hot

indigo coral
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one thing thats funny is the little screen in hte middle runs very slow when its cold

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like it faaddddeesss into the next number

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till the cabin warms up

stoic ledge
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Cold easily 1.5k but drops relatively quick

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Lol xD Nice

desert glen
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Core heater gang

indigo coral
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tbh

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if my car had one i'd use it just so i don't have to wait for it to be as warm in the morning

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lol

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even though the coldest it ever gets here is like

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20F

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and theres no problem starting

desert glen
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Gas doesen’t have that much of a problem starting in the cold

stoic ledge
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^ yeah same

indigo coral
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my grandparents sometimes have had trouble starting but they live in -40F

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so

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lol

desert glen
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Normally its my battery that shits itself in the cold

indigo coral
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its so cold that the water melted by your tires spinning flicks up and makes frozen spikes on the side of the car

stoic ledge
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Yikes

vital glen
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well yes, but no

stoic ledge
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Oof it's nearly 2AM, gotta go. Cya GWeulixWave

indigo coral
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bye

desert glen
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I had to pull up discord on my PC because my phone is distracting me from homework

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2 monitors is nice

indigo coral
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yep

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i have 3 in a row and its cool xD

desert glen
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how much screen space

indigo coral
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2x 21.5in, 1x 25in ultrawide

desert glen
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nice

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go 2x27

indigo coral
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I'm actually gonna get two more of the 25in ultrawide

desert glen
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I was originally gonna do one ultrawide but decided to just go with two 16:9

indigo coral
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nice

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I have them all on a stand and so the fact that there's 3 different heights across 3 types of monitor is driving me silghtly insane

desert glen
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Mine don't touch

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But I don't mind it

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I think I'd have to go to like a 30 something inch to get rid of the gap

indigo coral
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best part about my setup is I paid 100 bucks for the monitors ajnd stand combined

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yard sales/craigslist ftw

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and the stand is actually good quality 😄

vital glen
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maybe

desert glen
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I have a paper due tonight

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I feel like garbage

indigo coral
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rip

vital glen
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@desert glen Just do a line blinker fluid

desert glen
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I might go sniff some vinegar to open my sinuses

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Man

vital glen
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You drank straight diesel

desert glen
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I've taken three 500mg Acetaminophens and a Antihistamine

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My headache is gone

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Now I'm eating a croissant and doing a paper

indigo coral
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fun

desert glen
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Wich I'm about to ask for an extension on

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Because I feel like garbage

vital glen
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@desert glen straight shot of diesel

obtuse ice
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40hp per vent

dense shard
obtuse ice
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Jk, but what are some good cheap speakers under 60 for this car

dense shard
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I imagine that was the only year the Scion iM existed before it was rebadged as a Toyota.

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One thing people never realized. Scion was essentially Toyota bringing JDM to US shores.

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Scion xB was just a bB in Japan. iM was an Auris, and whatever else the released.

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That being said I imagine the tC wasn't designed for the US market... but it was built there, so close enough. lol

stoic ledge
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iM wasn't JDM xD

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I think only the tC was specifically designed for the US market, since it wasn't sold anywhere else

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The 2nd gen xB differed from the bB

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xD, iQ, FR-S, iM were just rebadges of Toyota's sold everywhere else, iA a Mazda2 for some reason xD

Only the xA and 1st xB is a true JDM export 😛

stoic ledge
stoic ledge
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glare

tropic silo
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GWmythsBlobGlare emote

jagged coyote
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tbf, even if the tesla was in autopilot/ sumon mode, its' still the other driver's fault

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he didn't pay attention

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my mom got bent doors because a guy reversed in her car (i was there too), and we were 100% refunded because my mom put the car in first, the guy was reversing still and so considered doing a maneuver

unreal terrace
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It's officially winter PepeHands

viral matrix
stoic ledge
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It's officially winter PepeHands

No, it starts the 21st/22nd of December stuck_out_tongue

unreal terrace
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Nah man, I get to have studded tires from today 😏

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Studded tires = winter

stoic ledge
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Where were you from?

unreal terrace
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Swederp :p

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Usually winter arrives like this;
Monday 10°c
Tuesday 15°c and sun
Wednesday -15°c and 10" of snow

stoic ledge
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Lol classic

viral matrix
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Hope it doesn't arrive like that over here

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😁

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Not really looking forward to changing the tires yet

stoic ledge
#

We only had snow like 2-3 times last winter, with this being the most... I'm gonna stick with my summer tires xD

viral matrix
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I love to drive with my 235/45-17's, the winter tires ruin the handling

stoic ledge
#

Relatively wide tires in the winter pogey

viral matrix
#

Yea, my winter ones are 205/55-16's

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Narrow tires would be better on snow and slush

stoic ledge
#

installs bicycle tires

viral matrix
stoic ledge
#

205/55/16 are/were like the most common size tires for a long period of time xD

viral matrix
#

Yea

stoic ledge
#

Everything from hatchbacks, sedan, wagons, minivans had them

viral matrix
#

Buddy had a ford fiesta with 155/55-14's as winter tires, those gripped like hell

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😄

stoic ledge
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LOL

viral matrix
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They just grip thru the snow and slush like no one's business

stoic ledge
#

The previous owner gave me some 175/65/14 tyres with the car iirc, but I sold them xD

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195/55-16 all year long :)

viral matrix
#

I still have 4 sets of tires and rims for the car

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lmao

stoic ledge
#

LOL

viral matrix
#

one good set of winter tires, one bad set of winter tires, one good set of summer tires and one bad set of summer tires

stoic ledge
#

Lol xD

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I see 2 sets of drift tires xD

viral matrix
#

On a fwd car

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sure

stoic ledge
#

Yes

viral matrix
#

with a soon to be bad clutch

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yes

stoic ledge
#

Just drive backwards

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The other day, a guy in a freaking Citroen Berlingo did a burnout at school

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Or atleast he tried to

viral matrix
#

All my other tires are 205/55-16's except the good set of summer tires

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With the matte black rims

stoic ledge
#

Yeah the wide ones

viral matrix
#

Yus

stoic ledge
#

pogey

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I could fit 205/45-17's (like every Color Edition got except the Dutch ones) but those would make the car uncomfortable on the bad Belgium roads xD So I'll stick with the 16s

indigo coral
#

I want much larger rims

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oof

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I'd love to have 18s

viral matrix
#

17's are a pain on these roads already

stoic ledge
#

Inb4 24" on the RX300

viral matrix
#

My buddy has 255/35-19's on his Audi A6 Allroad 😂

stoic ledge
#

AllRoad + flat tires

Nice combo m8

viral matrix
#

ikr

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It's lowered though

stoic ledge
#

Or did the airride collapse? xD

viral matrix
#

Nope

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It's just fine

stoic ledge
#

Ah, that's something that happens alot xD

viral matrix
#

Holds the pressure in all of the bags still

indigo coral
#

oi not 24s

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18s dont look oversized

indigo coral
#

yep

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I think it looks nice

indigo coral
#

ehhh I prefer the 2007 RX350 ones like in that pic

stoic ledge
#

Ok :)

unreal terrace
#

205/45r17 is what om mine :p

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But man, the tyres are €170/tire

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When 225/45R17 are like €90

stoic ledge
#

Yikes

unreal terrace
#

Iirc that's continental contisport5 or something

stoic ledge
#

I can get you some Wanli tires for €40/piece xD

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Not that I'd recommend them

unreal terrace
#

nankang Intensifies

stoic ledge
#

Cheapest nankang are 50€

unreal terrace
#

I think I've have Radar and some other Chinese brand on my 17" ATM

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And they're absolutely horrible

stoic ledge
#

Yikes

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Hankook Ventus Prime 3, multiple test winning tires: €75/piece

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It's a bit more expensive then let's say 205/55-16, but not that bad xD

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Continental Sportcontact 5 is ±€100/piece (excl installation)

unreal terrace
#

Ye, I'm thinking about getting those continentals tho or Sava (just cuz they're rated very quiet)

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In 205/45r17?

stoic ledge
#

Apparently

viral matrix
#

I got my 235's with the rims for 500€ Pogey

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The rims and tires were brand new

unreal terrace
#

Oof that's some cheap 205s

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Cheapo rims or good rims? :P

viral matrix
#

Good rims

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No replicas

unreal terrace
#

Awesome

viral matrix
#

The guy I bough them from had gotten them for his project car, which he ended up selling before finishing it

stoic ledge
#

I 'member my brother buying brand new Fiat Punto Evo rims (16") + brand new wheels for €400 pogey

viral matrix
#

My studded winter tires were only 280€ for the whole set

stoic ledge
#

The car he got it from got damaged during transport, so they had 0 km on the pogey

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Studded tires pogey nobody has those around here

viral matrix
#

I only have them because of our road

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It's a death trap in the winter

stoic ledge
#

Understandable

unreal terrace
#

I'm stuck at finding lighter 17" for my fiat... There's always OZ but damn they're expensive

stoic ledge
#

Didn't like the old 15" the car came with

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Oof yes OZ is expensive

unreal terrace
#

15" is pretty comfy tho

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65% profile intensifies

stoic ledge
#

Yes but they were ugly xD

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16 looked much nicer

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And still quite comfy, especially due to the suspension setup

indigo coral
#

The tires for my mom's car is 260$ each 😂

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255/50R20

stoic ledge
#

That's a big YIKES from me

indigo coral
#

yup

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Mine are like 100$ each

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Maybe a bit more

stoic ledge
#

Changed them on my parents car for a total of €260 incl. installation (all 4 tires)

indigo coral
#

For the same exact tire type btw. Micheln Defender LTX

stoic ledge
#

Michelin eyes

indigo coral
#

that bad?

stoic ledge
#

Nah it's a good brand usually

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I'm not familiar with the Defender LTX tho

viral matrix
#

The tires for my bike cost 257€ + installation and balancing

stoic ledge
#

Lol that's the same as 4 tires on the Meriva

viral matrix
#

Ikr

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Got the Pirelli's

stoic ledge
#

I've checked: €260.40 for all 4

viral matrix
#

I try not to cheap out on bike tires

stoic ledge
#

Sticky Pirelli's pogey

viral matrix
#

They're pretty sticky

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Not too soft rubber though

#

Maybe they'll last thru the next summer too

stoic ledge
#

Nice xD

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I've put some Hankook Ventus Prime 3 on my parents car

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They're also on my brothers car

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And his previous car

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Really good tires

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And not super expensive

viral matrix
#

My both sets of good tires for the car are cheapo asf

stoic ledge
#

Yikes xD

viral matrix
#

Doesn't really matter if they're round and grippy

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😄

stoic ledge
#

Most really cheap tires don't perform well xD

viral matrix
#

These lose to good tires only in the noise

stoic ledge
#

Tires are the last thing I'd save money on

viral matrix
#

They're pretty loud

stoic ledge
#

Ah, not that bad than

viral matrix
#

Can't even lock the front wheels up in the rain

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I wouldn't save money on bike tires, but cheap car tires are pretty good over here

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The local tire market can't sell you shitty tires

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It's illegal

stoic ledge
#

Idk if you can get like Wanli, Linglong and those sh*t, those are quite bad

viral matrix
#

Mine are landsail ls588 uhp

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Quite cheap

stoic ledge
#

Can't really find any test results of those :(

viral matrix
stoic ledge
#

Ah not bad

unreal terrace
#

Vredsteins prettt good also

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Michelins economy brand iirc

stoic ledge
#

They do get soft quite fast tho, with cracks etc

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(Vredestein)

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Michelin isn't really economy xD

indigo coral
#

we're never buying another set of hankook tires. the ones on our explorer right now that came with it are the shittiest things

unreal terrace
#

Nah, they soft and tho

stoic ledge
#

Pogey yeah i have no idea how those SUV versions are

unreal terrace
#

Prolly crap, like SUVs 😏

stoic ledge
#

Yes puggers

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races of in tiny hatchback

unreal terrace
#

There's probably reason to have an SUV tho, from the ones I've driven I just can't see why

stoic ledge
#

To show everybody how adventurous you are (:

unreal terrace
#

Vanity ain't with that much 🤣

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What engines in yours btw? @stoic ledge

stoic ledge
#

1.2 16v Bi-Fuel puggers

unreal terrace
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Oof the FIRE engine :p

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I've got the 1.9 mjet

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8v

stoic ledge
#

Ah no It's not the Punto Evo, we don't have that one anymore

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I have a Corsa now xD

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The Punto Evo was a 1.3 M-Jet

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In 2010-2012 the 🇳🇱 government was convinced diesel was super good for the environment, so all small diesels (Polo 1.2 TDI Bluemotion, Corsa 1.3 CDTI, Punto 1.3 Mjet, Clio 1.5 dCi etc) got a tax credit

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So like most of them sold those years were small diesels

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The middle one (white Corsa) is mine, 1.2 16v Bi-Fuel. Punto Evo left was the previous car of my brother, 1.3 Mjet. The Chevy Spark is from my sister in law, 1.2 16v

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But the Punto and Corsa share the same platform dab

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Of those 3, the Spark was the fastest xD

indigo coral
#

Spark is tiny tho

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And slow

stoic ledge
#

Yes, but it's faster than the other 2 in the pic xD

indigo coral
#

I've ridden in a spark

stoic ledge
#

That was the 4 speed auto probably

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This is the 5spd manual, which is faster puggers

indigo coral
#

"faster"

stoic ledge
#

Yes xD

#

We also got it with a 1.0 btw, so the 1.2 was the upgraded engine xD

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And most Sparks here were sold with the 1.0 engine on LPG, which was just amazingly slow

unreal terrace
#

Isn't the 1.3mjet like 75 or 90hp?

stoic ledge
#

1.0: 0-60 in 15.5s puggers
1.2: 0-60 in 12.1s

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Uhm the 1.3 M-Jet we had, had 86hp iirc

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Or 83

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Lemme check

unreal terrace
#

90hp then :p

stoic ledge
#

83

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No we dutchies had a different tune on it

#

So it was under the CO2 limit which made it tax free

unreal terrace
#

They say mine does 0-100 in 10 seconds, in the real world it's more like 11-12sec

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Ah

stoic ledge
#

The 83/84/85 version should do it in 13.1s 😛

unreal terrace
#

F

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That's way slow

stoic ledge
#

My Corsa does it in 14s puggers

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So yes, slow

unreal terrace
#

I find around 10 second 0-100kph is a fast enough car :p

stoic ledge
#

I actually timed it once on 17s, but the start was meh. I also found out that shifting at redline is actually slower to shifting at +- 4000rpm xD

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Shifting at 4000rpm, I come close to the stated 14s

unreal terrace
#

Lul

stoic ledge
#

It's slow but it's sufficient for now

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I almost bought a new car last weekend

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"new", new for me

#

But actually mine is in perfect condition, like new. There's nothing wrong with it, and it gets me to my destination while being affordable.

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So I'm happy with it 🙂

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And I see it's sold now, so I can't buy it anymore

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Which is good since it saves me money xD

#

But then, I'd have upgraded from 83hp to 140hp, and it's easily tunable to 170-180hp (I've done the same with my parents car)

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So literally doubling the horsepower

indigo coral
#

Mines mid to low 8s

stoic ledge
#

Excluding the Model 3, I dare to bet that 80+% of the new cars sold last month take over 8s to go from 0-60 😛

indigo coral
#

Maybe in netherlands

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I've only got 220hp which is fine but the trans makes it mucho slow

stoic ledge
#

Ah yes in meant to add in 🇳🇱 xD

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When I watch US car reviews, they be like 0-60 in 7s is slow, I'm like wtf 😛

indigo coral
#

Raw HP isn't that bad

stoic ledge
#

Yeah 220hp isn't bad xD

indigo coral
#

Well keep in mind it's a heavy ass car

stoic ledge
#

1.765 kg

#

Bwah it's normal for the type of car

#

Also: spec sheet says 0-100kph in 9.2s for your RX300?

indigo coral
#

It's lower than that

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I've timed it at 8.4

stoic ledge
#

pogey

indigo coral
#

EU got a detuned version btw

stoic ledge
#

Ah yes I see, 201hp

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My bad, didn't notice

indigo coral
#

Some places were like 170

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Even s l o w e r

stoic ledge
#

170hp from a 3.0 V6 puggers

indigo coral
#

I mean

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SO LOL.

stoic ledge
#

CO2-emissions 311 g/km puggers

#

That car would be expensive af if it was sold now

indigo coral
#

My Rx?

stoic ledge
#

Yes

indigo coral
#

Wait WTF one of my msgs didnt send

stoic ledge
#

Classic discord

indigo coral
#

70s cars got 110hp from a 7.8L V8 so lmao

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Is what I said

stoic ledge
#

Yes I member

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That was a joke

indigo coral
#

220hp from a 3L V6 is also kinda a joke

stoic ledge
#

But now I get it xD

indigo coral
#

Ya

stoic ledge
#

Well 220hp isn't that bad for a N/A 3.0

indigo coral
#

meh

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It's kinda sad

stoic ledge
#

Bwah 220hp/3 = 73hp/L, that's quite normal

indigo coral
#

104hp/L is fairly normal now days

stoic ledge
#

For N/A engines?

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x doubt

unreal terrace
#

Cadillac; what you mean 175bhp from a 8.2l V8?

stoic ledge
#

Ford be like Here is 140hp from a 1.0L 3cyl

unreal terrace
#

Didn't Merc make some like 200bhp/l engine?

stoic ledge
#

Yeah, the A45 AMG

unreal terrace
#

A43 AMG?

stoic ledge
#

A45 S: 421hp/500Nm from a 2.0T

unreal terrace
#

Oof it uses the air-conditioning for the intercooler

#

No wonder it's churning out those figures

stoic ledge
#

Inb4 rebuilds at 100k km

unreal terrace
#

Probs

stoic ledge
#

Oof it also has the highest hp per cylinder

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105hp

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(for a 4 cyl that is, I think some supercar might go over that... not sure)

unreal terrace
#

Probably most of them do

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100bhp/cyl means a V8 has to have more than 800bhp

stoic ledge
#

Chiron only has 92hp/cyl puggers

unreal terrace
#

There's 16 of them :p so they got more to get

stoic ledge
#

Only 187.5hp/liter

#

What a bunch of plebs at Bugatti

#

xD

#

Maybe we can use MB's technology to produce 1-cyl 0.5L 100hp engines to put in nearly everything xD

#

Downsizing to the max

unreal terrace
#

It probably takes 25hp to drive the AC compressor to cool the intake air tho

stoic ledge
#

Bwah that's not important xD

unreal terrace
#

Oof, now the "cityfolks" want to add a €250 tax on studded tires... cmon

#

when are they adding a €500 tax on "cityfolk" tho

indigo coral
#

Rip

stoic ledge
#

Is this discrimination?

ornate heart
#

Covered in dust

fathom socket
#

The symbols on the back tho

desert glen
#

that poor thunderbird

dense shard
#

I can't tell if that's a hammer and sickle or someone messed up the other symbol.

vital glen
#

obvi hammer and sicke;

dense shard
#

Man the C8 Vette is just... bargain bin exotic.

indigo coral
#

G70 or Stinger? GWmythicalThonkCool

dense shard
#

G70 looks like a more mature design.

#

Stinger is still a bit childish in some angles.

#

But the overall effect of the Stinger is more head turning.

indigo coral
#

I find the Genesis nice looking but almost a bit too bland

#

the interior is nicer on the Genesis though.

#

Stinger has more space, Genesis handles a bit better

dense shard
#

Define "more space."

indigo coral
#

More trunkspace and backseat

dense shard
#

Like what... an inch more space in the back seat?

indigo coral
#

Genesis has a trunk, stinger is a hatchback

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two inches more legroom

#

which makes a difference

dense shard
#

Not a small amount for sure.

#

Question is... how often do you plan on hauling people?

indigo coral
#

I end up hauling people around really quite often

#

in my RX i routinely have 3 passengers

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At times 4

vital glen
#

I once stuffed 6 people into my h1 as a meme

dense shard
#

So a full house.

indigo coral
#

that being said, by the time I can afford one of these thats less likely to happen as often

dense shard
#

I almost want an H1.

#

But I like the size of my car as it stands.

vital glen
#

h1 is my off-road monster

indigo coral
#

the front end of each car is really quite nice in their own way, the back end looks far better on the Stinger.

dense shard
#

Maybe when I get a job.

vital glen
#

and a truck to make my eco-professors riled up

dense shard
#

For now... yay job searches.

#

you must have 6 years experience in sorting doodads from whatcamacallits.

indigo coral
#

Seems that the Stinger has more wow factor but the Genesis is a bit tighter, smaller and more mature looking.

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They're both about the same price, more stingers available used

dense shard
#

Too bad my experiences are in thingamabobs and doohickies.

indigo coral
#

Oh - the new G90 is fuckin ugly might i say

vital glen
#

@dense shard Want to work at a completely legitimate mechanic that has no affiliation with any crime whatsoever?

indigo coral
#

Truly dreadful wheels.

dense shard
#

I'm looking for an office job tbh.

#

And your mention of no felonic activities has me a bit paranoid.

vital glen
#

They pay their taxes

#

no tax fraud there

fathom socket
twin gust
#

random question i had, can a 2jz fit in a 2018 tacoma

dense shard
#

Probably not.

twin gust
#

ok thx

dense shard
#

Toyota community on the internet is pretty amusing.

eager kite
serene scarab
#

It will never not be hilarious when I find out a full-size SUV parked next to me

stoic ledge
#

US parking bays are massive xD

viral matrix
#

Ikr

serene scarab
#

Particularly the ones in front of Alamo Drafthouse. They're directly off the main driveway of the complex, so they're designed in the case someone parks their pickup truck or SUV there. This way, they won't block the drive.

tropic silo
#

Lel

indigo coral
#

Costco parking spots are huge too

carmine summit
#

New Minis are as big as my car, that's funnier than having a mini next to an SUV

indigo coral
#

I parked next to a massively lifted f350 once. His door handles were at my roof.

#

and I drive a midsize/compact crossover lol

crimson wraith
#

Had that in our BMW 3. only saw the Stepplate with the F350.

fathom socket
indigo coral
#

Just saw a GT2 RS on my way to school

fathom socket
#

Was it loud lol

indigo coral
#

I'd have taken a pic but there was a LEO behind me and I'd rather not get a ticket lol

#

Very

fathom socket
#

Haha

wheat hatch
#

No offense to the Bentley guy, but he needs to learn how to park.
Unless he parked like that to avoid scratches.
(But he is awfully close to the curb because of that.)

#

.monkawew.

night current
#

^

#

Gonna scratch this rims

wheat hatch
#

.monkaS.

vital glen
#

@wheat hatch you park as close to the curb as possible

wheat hatch
#

Yeah I know, but from that angle it just seems a bit too close.
But considering his wheels position, it's probably fine.
.feelsgoodman.

fathom socket
#

Just got a Hyundai Genesis 2016 with twin turbos and I park it far away from other cars lol

#

I need a special paint to make it scratch proof

#

Gotta pay monthly for 7 to 8 years oh well

#

It's $320 a month

eager kite
vital glen
#

@eager kite What?

#

Never heard of Android auto?

eager kite
#

Yea, moment of silence for everyone who can't watch videos, sing caraoke, or play videogames in their car

stoic ledge
#

Why would I want that?

#

Also > implying I can't sing karaoke in insert random car

eager kite
#

sure you can do it from your phone

#

but can you do it through a massive touch screen at high def?

stoic ledge
#

But why

#

I like to drive my car

eager kite
#

way better looking....

stoic ledge
#

Lol Tesla Model 3 dash isn't that nice tbh

#

Don't like the design

eager kite
#

taste is subjective

stoic ledge
#

Ofcourse it is

#

The only angle in which the Model 3 looks nice, is from the rear

#

And only with the Performance wheels

#

(imho)

eager kite
#

what car do you have?

stoic ledge
#

Corsa GWsoraeDabmoji

#

Not that it is relevant to the discussion

eager kite
#

best car

dense shard
#

I'm sorry

#

But

#

watch videos, netflix, play games in a car

#

Why would I want to do any of that in my car?

#

I can either do that at home... in comfort.

#

Or I will get distracted by it.

#

Also I sing regardless.

eager kite
#

have you ever played cuphead?

dense shard
#

I don't see how that is relevant.

stoic ledge
#

That's not it, but sure

#

If it makes you feel better

#

Let's go with that

dense shard
#

If I played cuphead on my PC... do I win a prize?

stoic ledge
#

Yes pogey

dense shard
#

Before I go buy the game... what do I win? 🤔

eager kite
#

No, I'm just asking if you've played it before

dense shard
#

I haven't.

eager kite
#

ok, well, it's a fun retro game (imho), and now it's standard in le tesla

dense shard
#

That's great, but I don't see why I'd want to play it in a car vs at home.

eager kite
#

because it's about the same experience, but this one you can do anywhere

stoic ledge
#

That racing game, actually steering the wheels... Aaargh it's just bad for your wheels

eager kite
#

Also I def would watch some things in the model 3 because of its amazing sound system

#

way better than just having a sound-bar for a tv

stoic ledge
#

> soundbar

Soundbars suck

dense shard
#

I have 500 dollar headphones.

eager kite
#

not as good as surround sound speakers

dense shard
#

Better.

eager kite
#

nah

dense shard
#

yeah

stoic ledge
#

Probably yes

eager kite
#

nah

dense shard
#

My headphones make no compromises like a car does.

#

A car needs to run on 12v, sound good for 5, and has to deal with acoustics of a car... which isn't designed for audio.

#

My headphones are designed to do one thing.

#

Sound good to me.

indigo coral
#

^

eager kite
#

you know there are dc to dc converters right?

dense shard
#

What about em?

eager kite
#

so what's the dig with 12v?

dense shard
#

Because automotive stereos work with 12v.

stoic ledge
#

Because the Model 3 still uses 12V for on-board stuff

dense shard
#

Headphone amps have more flexibility.

eager kite
#

you could still step down to 5v at the speaker though

dense shard
#

I could, do automakers?

stoic ledge
dense shard
#

The cute one.

#

o-oh

stoic ledge
#

xD

#

And no, the Model 3 sound system isn't bad. I've heard it. But a decent home cinema system at home, or 500 usd headphones are much better

indigo coral
#

Which sound system ?

dense shard
#

... how would surround sound even work in a car?

indigo coral
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The mid-range one of the top tier?

dense shard
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I imagine a mid-range will match most if not all cars.

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Top tier costs more than some decent luxury cars.

stoic ledge
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I think falcon is referring to the Model 3 sound system xD

dense shard
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I'm assuming Falcon is asking which level of sound system in regards to the 3.

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Cause I'm sure the Model 3 beats out the Wal-Mart no brand special.

indigo coral
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The model 3 sound system in the lower tier is definitely meh

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I like the one in the prem interior

stoic ledge
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The one I've driven was a Long Range, so Premium audiosystem – 14 speakers, 1 subwoofer, 2 amplifiers, and Immersive Sound

dense shard
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sounds nice

tight cypress
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hmm

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i still want an subwoofer

indigo coral
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Yeet

stoic ledge
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yeet

tight cypress
dense shard
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That don't look healthy.

unreal terrace
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Looks like you need to clean the carb more often

viral matrix
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Looks like pretty normal amount of carbon buildup to me

indigo coral
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It's a shame the trunk on the G70 is so small

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otherwise that would take the cake because the interior is way nicer

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and it drives a bit better since its smaller lighter and more nimble

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though an article said that it had a Genesis-specific 5spd transmission that was less than ideal... any idea why this would be different than the 8spd in the Stinger?

dense shard
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Like a manual?

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Or an autobox?

indigo coral
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i think that review was on crack

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bc google says its the ZF 8HP liek the Stinger, and the manual is a 6speed

dense shard
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Pretty sure they share an engine and transmission.

indigo coral
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(I'd get the auto 100%)

dense shard
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And yeah.

indigo coral
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the review insisted it was a TQ 5spd that was lurchy and slow.......

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????

dense shard
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The manual is only available with the 2.0.

indigo coral
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exactly

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i want the 3.3

dense shard
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Which is not bad, but at that point... gimmie more.

indigo coral
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not gonna waste my money on a 4cyl xD

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if I'ma buy a nice car its gonna have some power

dense shard
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Well it's an afterthought transmission.

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Like the manual on the new Accord.

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It's there.

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It's crap, but it's there. They have delivered it. And when no one buys it, Honda will blame us for their own shoddy design.

indigo coral
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lol

dense shard
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I imagine Hyundai's implementation is vastly superior.

indigo coral
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I prefer to have the ZF 8HP instead of a 6 speed manual that I don't know how to drive 😂

dense shard
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I think everyone does.

indigo coral
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the 8hp has gotten awesome reviews in tons of different cars

dense shard
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I don't recall any reviewers being super happy with the 6 speed.

indigo coral
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I'm starting to lean towards the smaller G70 because of the tigher handling and far better interior

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over the Stinger

dense shard
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So much for the "save the manuals" campaign.

indigo coral
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I'm a bad car guy - I like automatics xD

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I'm the scourge of humanity or whatever

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(that being said the one in my rx is sh*t)

dense shard
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meh

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I'm just annoyed at the save the manual car people who never buy a new manual car.

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Or the 12 year olds who do that.

indigo coral
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I'm not having any false pretenses xD I'm down with automagical trans since theyre always gonna be far better than I am

dense shard
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They harp on about the superiority of something, but come time to live up... they fall flat.

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You get a manual cause you a salty child who refuses to yield to the future.

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I'm high sodium to say in the least.

indigo coral
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Lol

dense shard
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seriously though... I don't think it's a hill worth dying on.

indigo coral
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I looked at getting a G80 but I despise the interior of that car and its just... fat looking

dense shard
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Personally I'd go for the Hyundai.

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I like the styling a bit more.

indigo coral
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The G70?

dense shard
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yeah

indigo coral
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yeah. I'm concerned about the trunk size though

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only 10 ft^3

dense shard
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That's more of a you issue. Trunk ... oh wow only 10?

indigo coral
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yeah its tiny

dense shard
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That's almost as bad as my car. lol

indigo coral
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back seat isn't great either

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the Stinger has wayy more space because its quite a bit bigger

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I'm going to take a look around both at the car expo coming up soon

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I know the Stinger is more practical, Genesis more fun, both are nice looking

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xD

dense shard
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At the end of the day.

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I'd go with more practical.

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Mind you this is 100% a case of do as I say, not as I do.

indigo coral
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I've got a long ass time to decide lol, I won't be able to afford either for a few more years

carmine summit
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Everyone's talking about new cars and here I am with my $700 car trying to buy a $350 car for an engine swap

dense shard
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Took me 5 years of saving money to get a car.

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It ain't a Ferrari.

indigo coral
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There's no way I'm buying anything new. I'm just gleefully watching the catastrophic depreciation on the Genesis G70/Stinger GT and saving up money so that, with both of those things in mind, I can afford one within the next few years.

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@dense shard you have corolla hatch ye?

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It has twice the cargo space of the G70 according to internet. That's a rip.

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in pictures the trunk doesn't look that bad but i think the pictures are a bit misleading

dense shard
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Twice the size?

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I don't believe it.

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It's not a tiny trunk, but it's far from large.

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Biggest issue is the load floor is actually really high.

indigo coral
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I think doug demuro is kind of an idiot

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sometimes at least

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he said the G70 has the same quality interior as the Stinger... yet I've heard hundreds of poor quality complaints about the Stinger

dense shard
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Doug gets it wrong.

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Frequently imo.

indigo coral
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I'll check both of them out at the auto expo in november

dense shard
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I just know the Corolla is punching above its weight on interior quality.

dense shard
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It's a vastly more refined car than previous generations. I'd argue more refined than it's competition.

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More fun at any rate. The Mazda 3 just feels like it's dragging it's ass around.

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Civic is solid. Though I don't know if it is better... then again it's been out for a few years now.

hollow thunder
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since y'all keep posting crappy cars that are only worth about 5k

indigo coral
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nice.

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I happen to like my 5k car though...

hollow thunder
stoic ledge
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> implying Audi isn't crappy

indigo coral
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My crappy car gets me where I need to go 🤷 I quite like it

stoic ledge
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^ same

hollow thunder
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most cars can be shit, ive driven mustangs that broke down

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insert ford is shit joke

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but ive had wayyyy more issues with cheap ass cars, and they're usually far more expensive to fix

indigo coral
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uh okay - mines been almost perfectly reliable for the last year and a half and 16k miles but ymmv

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Only new part was a small sway bar link in the rear that I replaced myself in about 5 minutes

hollow thunder
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to each their own my dude, but i wouldnt drive a car like that anymore when i can afford something better

stoic ledge
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Cool story

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So you drive a Skoda Octavia with an expensive badge on the front

tropic silo
hollow thunder
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oh dear lord.....

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hairdresser car

tropic silo
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It's an audi just like yours ;

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;)

carmine summit
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I missed out on the chance to buy an Audi Quattro last year

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not an A4 Quattro or a 90 Quattro