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dense shard
Dropping an engine is always bad.
The only reason Mazdabros say it's easy is because they've had practice.
civic girder
(what I'm saying is you never actually said exactly what you hated about rotaries)
(you just said you hated working on them)
indigo coral
I've always kind of wondered if its possible to drop and install a new engine in my car if it became necessary
engines are cheap but I presume its impossible
dense shard
And simply design doesn't negate all the vacuum lines and other bullshit you have to deal with in the final generation.
civic girder
as long as the engine fits, you can swap it in, usually
vital glen
I forgot what they were called
dense shard
It's always hypothetically easy, practically hard.
"It's a two hour job, tops" is an all nighter.
indigo coral
well I mean with a new engine of the same thing - I've wondered if I could figure it out instead of taking it to a shop
if I screw something up/I get whacked by the sludge monster
vital glen
unbolt transmission
dense shard
Depends how much time you have?
vital glen
take out wiring harness
dense shard
Also change oil regularly to avoid sludge.
vital glen
unbolt engine mounts
civic girder
you need an engine stand and whatever the thing is that they use to lift engines out
indigo coral
ye I'm only at 3600 since my last oil change
vital glen
engine crane
indigo coral
600 over what the forums recommend
civic girder
yes that
indigo coral
but still have 1400 till I think its necessary
dense shard
... just follow manufacturer recommendation.
indigo coral
which is 5k
the forums people say 1500 - 3k max
to avoid sludge
but I use synthetics so /shrug
dense shard
Don't use shit oil.
civic girder
^
dense shard
You should be fine with a decent brand of oil to 5k.
Synthetic should only add peace of mind at this point.
indigo coral
is it bad to use synthetics
vital glen
no?
dense shard
Like there's talk of not doing certain things.
Don't use synthetic in older cars that have bene using dino blood.
Apparently shrinks seals?
civic girder
depends on a lot of factors
whether or not synthetic is bad
like old cars don't like it, and avoid it in rotaries
indigo coral
oh well. it seems to work allright
vital glen
don't
indigo coral
mines 5w30
vital glen
The japanese
dense shard
The tech in the Corolla engine is pretty insane.
vital glen
r weird
dense shard
It's got more piston oil sprayers than the Mustang.
Electric water pump, electric thermostat.
indigo coral
probably quicker than my worn out spineless V6 xD
dense shard
Apparently a resin cam cover... no clue why, but Toyota is super proud of it.
indigo coral
they should have put the powertrain from the LS of the year into it
indigo coral
put the 4L V8 and 6speed from the LS that came out in '97, mounted it properly and set it up with a proper 4wd system
kind of a cross between the LS and the LX
vital glen
I got myself high flow headers @dense shard
civic girder
you know the LS motor has V6 variants right
civic girder
what car?
indigo coral
rx300
dense shard
I'm not even sure my car has a header.
vital glen
Putting a v8 in anything makes it better
indigo coral
theres plenty of space up front
vital glen
small block v8s are small
dense shard
I know most new cars have an integrated exhaust manifold.
civic girder
why the hell would you put a V8 in a Lexus RX
indigo coral
I'm not gonna put it in myself
dense shard
To make it go fast.
civic girder
those cars are ugly as fuck
dense shard
The same reason you put a V8 in an RX-7.
vital glen
v8 makes anything better
indigo coral
i don't mind the first gen RX
dense shard
Mind you that's just to make it actually drivable.
indigo coral
the newest gen is ugly
civic girder
and SUVs in general are just bad
dense shard
Are they?
dense shard
It works for quite a few people.
indigo coral
the new one is ugly but the first one is a pretty clean design
vital glen
no?
civic girder
it's common, but dumb
indigo coral
I was saying they should have set it up with the LS powertrain from the conception, not saying I'm gonna mod anything
civic girder
why even buy an RX-7 at that point?
you could just buy, like, anything else
dense shard
Even Mazda admits the rotary is a range extender at best.
vital glen
because they like the body shape and aftermarket support
indigo coral
I got the damn car for free, be it slow or ugly, think what you will, but hey. it was bloody free.
indigo coral
and I quite like the colour
civic girder
The RX-7 was designed for the rotary, not a fucking LS
vital glen
ls fits in everything
dense shard
true
civic girder
sure it works, but it just ruins the car
dense shard
Does it?
indigo coral
would be a hoot to LS swap my rx but that's something that just doesn't work
dense shard
Just swap in a modern Toyota V6.
civic girder
an RX-7 without a rotary is like a plane without wings
vital glen
no?
dense shard
Hell should be the same basic block design. lol
vital glen
the rx-7 drives w/ a ls
civic girder
it's just nowhere near as good without a rotary
dense shard
buddy, the RX is just a guised up Camry.
civic girder
the fuck
dense shard
I'm sure something bigger and more powerful will fit.
vital glen
Yeah, you can make power with out blowing apex seals
dense shard
Don't give up hope yet.
Awesom, I had a friend with an RX-7. You know how he tuned it?
civic girder
since when was the RX-7 made from the Camry?
dense shard
Build pressure till he blew and apex seal.
indigo coral
then you need new wiring harnesses and shit, i am not experienced enough to deal with that
vital glen
Lmao
dense shard
Lexus RX.
dense shard
When he blew the seal, he's take the pressure down a notch, and rebuild the engine.
No lie.
vital glen
That's genius
civic girder
The RX-7 was built with parts out of the 626
vital glen
the ford telstar?
civic girder
wdym, I'd daily one
dense shard
I did daily one.
The car with the magical exploding transmission.
It was dull, slow, loud.
Comfy seats, but that's really about it.
Honda Accord > Mazda 626
dense shard
The 626 was a Ford hoisted dud. Any redeeming features were negated by that stupid transmission.
Nifty engine tech? naaaaah
vital glen
Bro
dense shard
Reasonable styling? screw it.
vital glen
it's easy to replace a trans
indigo coral
if it was I'd have done it by now
dense shard
When a 1000 dollar car nukes a 300 dollar part... meh. skip
vital glen
Once you do something 100x it becomes easy
dense shard
Happily we got rid of the 626. The next owner had to deal with the transmission.
Anyway. Hopefully my Corolla will take me through at least... 24 RX-7s worth of engines.
vital glen
It already has
dense shard
To think my next new car purchase will either be an electric car or a minivan.
indigo coral
I love it. It looks awesome, has a decent interior, great performance, and has a long warranty
also is depreciating like a ton of bricks
fathom socket
there
dense shard
same
indigo coral
My rationale is that in a couple years, a Stinger GT2 will be sub-20k or at least close, and then I can put 60ish percent down, finance the rest, and have sub 200$ a month payments for 3yrs
civic girder
I've driven my coworker's Stinger
indigo coral
thoughts?
indigo coral
Bear in mind I'm coming from driving basic Fords with big engines, and a Lexus RX
indigo coral
I don't plan to track it/beat the shit out of it
just drive it (quickly on on-ramps) and stuff.
So the fact that its not great at 10/10 is fine by me tbh
civic girder
drive it like a GT car is supposed to be, lol
indigo coral
ye
civic girder
overall, I'd give it like a 6/10
The looks aren't great, the performance is pretty equal to the Porsche (though they are waaaay cheaper than the Porsche), and the interior is nice
civic girder
yes
indigo coral
Like i find the Genesis G70 (same platform) to be very bland
nice looking, but just too
bland
civic girder
It would be pretty easy to slide in the RWD Stinger
indigo coral
I'm debating which I want to target
civic girder
considering I almost span out in the AWD one
civic girder
?
indigo coral
the GTS 's awd system
civic girder
oh
civic girder
drift mode is useless if you don't track it
indigo coral
yeah I know
civic girder
which is why I'd get a Fiesta ST instead of a Focus RS
(plus I think the Fiesta ST is more fun)
indigo coral
for me, i think the Stinger is close to perfect. decent performance, particularly in a straight line, and its big enough to be practical since I drive people/shit around a lot, and is (imo) fairly cool looking
and in theory is quite reliable
civic girder
idk on the reliable part
I'd ask my coworker, but he'd probably spew some bullshit about it
indigo coral
I've not heard of widespread issues, besides a few people that mentioned the rotors warping
which, to be completely honest, if rotors warping occasionally is the biggest problem with a car, you've got a pretty damn good car on your hands
civic girder
(he likes to brag about the car, kind of annoying sometimes)
oh, they're quiet, if you care
indigo coral
quiet in what way
civic girder
even with the windows down there's not a lot of noise
indigo coral
interior wise or exhaust wise?
civic girder
with the windows up, it's super quiet
indigo coral
I would like to put an exhaust on it but I'm not gonna ruin the warranty just for that
lol
and that's really nice - i like it when cars are super quiet on highway
civic girder
yea
my coworker used to drive a Mini before he got the Stinger
still not sure what made him get a Mini, considering how he is
indigo coral
i also like that the Stinger is like.. loaded out in the gt2 trim
heated cooled seats, adaptive cruise and that stuff, heads up display, etc
civic girder
I'm pretty sure my coworker's is whatever the base model is, but with AWD
indigo coral
the 4cyl or the 6?
indigo coral
its not a base model then, afaik the 6 is only offered in the GT, GT1, GT2, GTS
so probably just the V6 GT
civic girder
probably
indigo coral
still a nice car xD
civic girder
it's not fun riding to lunch with him
indigo coral
its that bad?
civic girder
uncomfortable rear bench, plus his aggressive driving style
civic girder
lol
I don't think my friends' SAAB SUV or my other friend's '95 Astro van are that bad
civic girder
I guess
indigo coral
I wish you could install aftermarket shocks that were kinda.. halfway
between super stiff ones and the oem squish ones
civic girder
you can, if you wanted to bother
indigo coral
I can't find the middle area
civic girder
oh
indigo coral
i can find the really stiff ones but thats not really what I'm looking for
civic girder
race RX300 intensifies
civic girder
when you get the Stinger you could fully convert it to a track car
indigo coral
at least until the warranty runs out i'll be keeping it stock
civic girder
LS Swapped, slap on a roots supercharger, coilovers, lower it, make it manual; and ofc strip the interior and install a roll cage
civic girder
ofc, but that's all part of the LS conversion
indigo coral
that would cost what, 50k?
civic girder
depends
get an old ass LS, whatever the cheapest 6 speed you can find (for an LS)
only have the shop do the swap, do everything else yourself
maybe 30k at that point, if not less
indigo coral
the RX is a nice daily car though
civic girder
it would be hilarious to yeet around a corner, keeping pace with Corvettes, in a late 90s SUV
indigo coral
(and in a colour that was only around in the first few months)
nothing
it was free
civic girder
nice
better deal than my friend and his $300 Astro Van
but, the exhaust leak makes it sound cool
indigo coral
hey I have a teeny exhaust leak that I'm too lazy to fix atm as well
mines in the flex pipe (common issue) and only reveals itself when I step on it from a stop/slowly up a hill
when the engine is loaded
civic girder
not as bad as the other issue the Astro Van has
where, occasionally, the exhaust will disconnect from the manifold (slide back so that there is no longer a seal) when under load
and in order to fix it, you have to stop, get under the car, and slide the exhaust back into place
indigo coral
oh yikes
mine just burbles a bit from the tiny crack
sounds kinda like jetsons car
civic girder
the leak the van has is pretty bad, it's loud under load (with the windows down, or from outside); but it's still surprisingly quiet on the highway (unless the exhaust comes out)
and uh, you probably don't want to know what a LS V6 sounds like when it's basically in the cabin right next to you without any exhaust on it
tropic silo
I see leaky exhausts.
Who needs complex exhausts system? Just fucking straightpipe that badboy
My car has a slight leak somewhere in the middle of the car prolly, there's a pretty bassy sound emitting from the middle of the car when revving
But it's not the fartcan noice luckily. Just sounds slightly more aggressive now
stoic ledge
It won't pass the annual inspection tho
tropic silo
It did
stoic ledge
Glare emoji
It shouldn't have
The exhaust system must be properly attached and must be gas-tight over its entire length (i.e. it must not be leaking anywhere).
It's literally in the inspection list
tight cypress
@indigo coral corolla has everythin i need
stoic ledge
Maybe they didn't check it properly then?
Could be, your car should have failed with that leak (:
tropic silo
Maybe it isn't a leak? I mean, i never really looked at it. I just hear a bassy burpling sound from the middle of the car
stoic ledge
Could be, I have no idea. Could be something in the silencer came loose, so it doesn't silence everything anymore.. but then you'd hear some rattling
tropic silo
Maybe worth noting while it's in the shop for those stupid shocks anyways?
stoic ledge
Sure, just let them check it
serene jetty
tropic silo
I would like to keep my car good for more than 4 months so if it's leaking I'll get new parts... not DIY it together
jagged coyote
yikes, a new exhaust system... that ain't gonna be cheap
stoic ledge
Bwah not that amazing, probably 1 piece which is €200-250 including installation?
jagged coyote
idk, if it has an exhaust leak, replacing the system would cost more than the car itself imo
indigo coral
Are you on crack
You don't have to replace the exhaust in one piece
Swap out the leaky part
jagged coyote
I'll get new parts... not DIY it together
indigo coral
yah still you don't have to replace the whole thing
jagged coyote
tbf if one part is rusted out, the rest might be pretty rusty too
stoic ledge
Or the flexible bit, that's common too
vital glen
@fathom socket Father's money
fathom socket
Lmao
fathom socket
It has low profile tires so yeah it's a car that can be on track
indigo coral
I love Tesla but they don't have a prayer of beating the Taycan on track
The Model S is significantly bigger, heavier, more comfortable
it's not designed to be a track weapon
A Model 3 Performance Plus or something would have a better shot
civic spoke
It's fun when you're driving to fill up your car. And you see the range go from 20 km, down to 10, and back up to 20 km again.
dense shard
I'm not sure what people wanted with the NSX.
It's still a Ferrari killer at half the price.
Sure it's not going to take out the stupid expensive hypercars... but 90% of the performance? close enough.
indigo coral
They wanted a 100k car to rival the Bugatti chiron while being able to run forever perfectly reliably and seat 6
Obviously
dense shard
Then they should get an M5.
indigo coral
Lol
dense shard
Minus one seat
indigo coral
Of course that's /s
dense shard
In a few years Acura/Honda will kill the NSX, and people will all go, "what a shame, the NSX is dead, I loved that car."
Also Tesla really should be looking to update the Model S... it's getting a bit long in tooth.
civic spoke
What are they even going to do to update the Model S?
I guess make it more similar to the Model 3 for the interoro?
civic spoke
Also, I have no idea what the Model S is going to do around the Nurburgring.
That Telsa in the post above is a widebody, lul
Wasn't their issue mainly overheating?
civic spoke
Ahh, yes. A simple motor swap will get you around the Nurburgring at speed. /s
indigo coral
Is that sarcasm?
civic spoke
There fixed it.
indigo coral
Lol
dense shard
They're competing for a market that doesn't exist.
If people want a car that goes quickly around a track they'll get a a McLaren or something.
It's like FCA with the Hellcat.
Hell yeah, a Hellcat... and what about cars that I can afford... oh I can get a Jeep for just under 30k... without AC? Wow /s
civic spoke
I'm just happy to see that there finally is a competitor to the Model S from a legacy manufacturer.
indigo coral
the configurator is up
civic spoke
I wonder what time the Model S set for Laguna Seca
civic spoke
Oh, they already posted the time. It was 1:36.555
dense shard
Is that relevant?
Cause I'd be more interested how many laps at that time it can do.
Cause y'know... range.
civic spoke
Same. Or any kind of heat issues.
eager kite
I think Marques sums this up pretty good in his video; I don't think the Taycan is competition for Tesla
In that they are focused on different audiences
Tesla is more usability and practicality, while Porsche is more about track racing and their brand styling.
And yea they are updating the S and X, Elon talked about that a little while ago on twitter
@indigo coral Taycan is heavier than P100D
fathom socket
I like that channel :3
carmine summit
why am I like this, I'm 17 and don't have a job right now but I might be going to look at a car tonight
wouldn't be so bad except that I already have a car
fossil imp
coz gearhead
carmine summit
yeah
fossil imp
dude ive pissed so much cash up the wall on cars n modding them
carmine summit
it's a 1999 MK3 Jetta and the body is rotten, it needs brakes, and it's been sitting for a few years
carmine summit
the engine is worth $1000 pretty easily if it runs lol
carmine summit
probably dump the engine in my golf then part out the rest
fossil imp
yea nice
carmine summit
even if it doesn't run I might still buy it depending what's wrong
fossil imp
mmm sounds like a shitbox thou lol
carmine summit
ad says 96k km, could be that or could be 396k because the odo rolls over at 300
either way if it runs the engine's worth $1000
the only part I really want is the engine and the new tires it comes with
desert glen
night current
Wagooooon
placid flint
this following mod will become very lucrative.
https://parts.olathetoyota.com/blog/convert-plug-in-prius
tight cypress
tight cypress
smoky gate
Isn’t the 100a what the my summer car car is based on?
smoky gate
Oh no
jagged coyote
looks like if a 2cv had a kid with a firebird
tight cypress
fair bronze
It's the Suzuki Primate!
dense shard
This proved amusingly accurate last week for me.
tight cypress
viral matrix
Got the magnetic phone holder finally
dense shard
Out of curiosity... what car is that?
viral matrix
@dense shard a mk3 ford mondeo
dense shard
I see. Thanks
stoic ledge
With heated windshield puggers emote
jagged coyote
no need to de-ice if the windshield does it itself
fossil imp
mundano
tropic silo
@stoic ledge might want to remove that "puggers" you might get banned from it puggers emote
stoic ledge
Thanks for the tip
tropic silo
Wink emote
wheat hatch
Might want to remove that emoji you just sent @tropic silo, might get banned for that as well
tropic silo
Ah shit you're right. Thanks for the tip!
wheat hatch
Wink emote
stoic ledge
Nice Volvo!
tight cypress
these ground zeros sound awesome
fathom socket
Be jeremy clarkson and sleep in the back
tight cypress
i ran out of gas
viral matrix
stoic ledge
Corolla
The 2 generations affter this one were the Auris
And now they're back with the Corolla name
carmine summit
take that B16 fanboys
viral matrix
vital glen
@fathom socket that's something that a historic figure also said
fathom socket
xd
fathom socket
https://carbuzz.com/news/c8-corvette-becomes-insanely-cool-wall-art I like this idea they did
That mid engine Corvette is very interesting for me :3
silver torrent
*falls*
fathom socket
Hahaha
civic spoke
That's what TDI means.
Turbo
Diesel
Injection
Oh, wait. It was Turbo Direct Injection. Ohay. But it's only disels that use the TDI naming.
fathom socket
Nice
fathom socket
That's incredible
k I wanted a screenshot not that
Volkswagen owns Lamborghini Bugatti Audi Bentley Porsche and more
fathom socket
Those people have good ideas lol
They built an engine that's design to go 300mph for the modified Bugatti Chiron sport
fathom socket
Yeah
midnight nest
I have this
tropic silo
jagged coyote
vital glen
@fathom socket Needs 7 v8s
vital glen
I payed 2.70 for 93
stoic ledge
cries in 7.50 for regular
magic arrow
bitter compass
the girl seems so.. small next to the car 🤔
civic spoke
The Aerton is underrated.
stoic ledge
The Arteon is overrated.
wheat hatch
The Arteon is shit.
wheat hatch
@tropic silo
warm sparrow
The Arteon is what?
tropic silo
guys here?
fossil imp
tropic silo
Saw that?!
fossil imp
😄
tropic silo
bunch a bullshit
wheat hatch
Oi oi, calm down. No emojis here.
tropic silo
raging emoji
fossil imp
fine for me 😉
wheat hatch
wink face
fossil imp
tropic silo
Get's banned
bitter compass
arteon is a stupid form of the passat, change my mimd
if i can write mind correctly
tight cypress
co0ol
wheat hatch
Can't even see what that is
stoic ledge
^ same
arteon is a stupid form of the passat, change my mimd
Why change your mind if you're 100% right
tropic silo
(Because he actually thinks the car is good)
stoic ledge
It isn't
tropic silo
Get 4 of them, overvolt all of them and each limb one. Than you can count as a car @rugged forge
puggers emote
rugged forge
tropic silo
Basically like that, but at 150km/h
vital glen
@tropic silo
fathom socket
civic spoke
flint sable
Dope windshield banner
dense shard
Finally a sad country song about how Elon Musk took a man's love away... and his wife.
stoic ledge
RX-7 pogey
carmine summit
neat
my friend had an FB
it was really rusty
he sold it for $400 to someone with a nice one. And bought an E36.
tropic silo
Puggers emote
fossil imp
wheat hatch
14c
night current
15d
wheat hatch
16e
fossil imp
2000z
dense shard
18b
carmine summit
that's not that fast
indigo coral
Model 3 is the of the top safety cars.
carmine summit
yeah but that's a lot of damage for a semi tractor doing 60
if it was loaded then that'd make more sense, but 7500 kg is a light unloaded tractor
indigo coral
Depends on how much intrusion into the passenger compartment
if the car did bad or not
if it ruined the sheet metal but kept the occupants safe, thats the goal
carmine summit
yeah it protected the passengers but that's a lot of damage
indigo coral
Any car would have a lot of damage....
carmine summit
not that much usually
source: I worked in a body shop and did a bunch of collision repair
indigo coral
Teslas are far safer than most any other car - that's been statistically proven
except for some volvos
stoic ledge
The Tesla has an extremely strong structure to keep te battery safe in case of an accident... But it's not always the best for the people inside the car.
If anybody remembers, the crashtest Elon Musk showed, Model 3 vs S60 around a pillar, the Model 3 nearly didn't budge where the S60 folded around the pillar. You'd say the Model 3 is safer, but when you look at the numbers, the Volvo absored all the energy, which resuls in much lower G-forces applied to the head and other parts of the body of the driver and passengers.
I'm not trying to say Tesla's are unsafe car, quite the opposite. But not deforming isn't always better.
vital glen
@stoic ledge Increase the crumple zone
indigo coral
battery has to stay rigid, otherwise 🎆
vital glen
take load away from the cargo, aka people
Or just drive an h1 or a semi, where it doesn't matter
stoic ledge
@MK Increase the crumple zone take load away from the cargo, aka people
That's exactly what I meant 🙃
battery has to stay rigid, otherwise fireworks
Exactly 🙃
vital glen
But Elon musk likes watching things explode though @stoic ledge
stoic ledge
boom
indigo coral
yeah lets blow up shitty little hatchbacks
stoic ledge
Nah, Elon Musk has a Model S for that
indigo coral
Model S is actually a competent car
stoic ledge
> implying hatchbacks can't be competent cars
vital glen
implying that you can afford a car
indigo coral
From what I understand, the motors on the S and X were the primary overheating issue - the battery was less prone to overheats. The motors from the 3 (which will be in the Roadster if I recall right) don't overheat near as easily due to better cooling and higher efficiency
so I'm cautiously optimistic about cooling on R2
stoic ledge
There have been multiple cases of spontaneously combusting Tesla Model S's tho
vital glen
Ford pinto combusted because gasoline leaked on to the exhaust pipe
and the whole car exploded
indigo coral
theres been a number of recalls recently of manufactureres saying park the car outside and don't drive it - namely BMW had a bunch that got recalled
Even the Stinger needed a small cover on a part of the wiring harness that could rub on a burr on the metal (highly unlikely but something that needed addressing)
its not unusual
vital glen
but does that causes spontaneous combustion?
carmine summit
just causes a short which usually only results in melted wires
stoic ledge
I didn't know about the BMW recall
vital glen
That's what I assumed @carmine summit
indigo coral
vital glen
I don't like BMW anyways
stoic ledge
No cars recalled in Europe 
carmine summit
my car had wires short before I bought it
I replaced one of the 2 wires and it works perfectly
no fire or anything
stoic ledge
Because the European versions aren't the same as the US versions /s
indigo coral
Or your government could just not be arsed to enforce a recall
stoic ledge
Probably
indigo coral
iirc our explorer has had... 6? different recall notices since we got it
rip
lemon of a car that it is
carmine summit
better than GM not recalling things until they're like 25 years old and most of them are in scrapyards lol
indigo coral
yeah the warranty expired at 60k
lol
barely squeaked in
but seriously - what car needs that much work before 100k
carmine summit
something with a design/manufacturing flaw
indigo coral
as far as I know my engine has never been opened (obviously changed fluids and stuff) and im at 130k
stoic ledge
VW 1.4 TSIs 😉
indigo coral
timing chain stretched and wrecked a ton of shit
car didnt throw a CEL until it was liek
about to let go and be completely f*cked
dealer had the car for a month and rebuilt like half the motor
carmine summit
well yeah, it's not easy to detect a worn chain
indigo coral
Why do the chains wear out before belts do
wtf
the interval for my timing belt on my car is 90k
carmine summit
90k? what do you drive
indigo coral
and the explorer chain shat itself somewhere in the 50s
1999 RX 300
thats the lexus recommended interval is every 90k
carmine summit
that's probably chains
indigo coral
yeah but modern VWs also burn a quart of oil ever 1k and that's fine according to VW
carmine summit
My car burns no oil but it does leak
carmine summit
Valve cover gasket was leaking so I replaced it, and it still leaks
indigo coral
A tiny bit on the bottom somewhere but nothing that ever has touched the ground
carmine summit
I'm planning an engine swap so I'm not too worried about it
Going to see if I can get a head tonight
indigo coral
Thats just what 20 y/o cars do I guess
carmine summit
22
indigo coral
Has had no problems over the last 15k miles
carmine summit
I have a 97 Golf
indigo coral
Aside from a couple oil changes and tire balancing/alignment it's been easy
Oh and I replaced the rear sway bar linkage the other day
It was clunking
I need to get a new air mix servo for in the dash, it's going out
carmine summit
I need to get a gauge panel, pyrometer, and a boost gauge for my engine swap
indigo coral
I wish I could have the powertrain from the Lexus LS from '99
4L V8 300hp and a nice 5spd instead of my 3L V6 220hp and clunky 4spd
carmine summit
So 1UZ
carmine summit
I have 90 hp
carmine summit
I'm thinking about updating to a newer style trans when I do my engine swap
indigo coral
The gears are so damn long
So every time you shift up, even when you are flooring it, it drops down to like 2k rpm
Power hits at 3k
Though benefit of it is that at 70 to 85 for example doesn't take much pedal
Passing power at speed isn't crazy but it's better than a teeny 4cyl or something
stoic ledge
than a teeny 4cyl
A 2-cyl TwinAir engine is much better :^)
carmine summit
I mean my little 1.8l is decent
I only have 90 hp but apparently that comes with 145 nm of torque
according to wikipedia
after a swap and some screwdriver tuning I hope I'll have about 100 hp and 220 nm
stoic ledge
Ah it's the 1.8 with a whopping 90 hp, yeah that beast which looked ancient besides the more powerful 1.6... they even had a 1.8 with just 75hp, even in a 2001 Golf Convertible
It does have ok torque in the lower rev range, 145Nm at 2500rpm for a N/A engine isn't bad
But that's ofcourse because it's a 8 valve engine iirc
carmine summit
We only got the 1.8, 2.0, diesel, and VR6 here
stoic ledge
oof
carmine summit
I'm going to see if I can get a good AAZ head because I have 2 low mileage engines with bad heads
I've got a bottom end with head studs, I'll do the gaskets and put a head on it and see what I can do with the tuning
Theoretically it can handle up to 50 psi of boost
carmine summit
T56 swap
indigo coral
afaik its impossible to swap the rx300
carmine summit
nothing's impossible
indigo coral
its all electronically controlled and I've got no idea how to program an ecu to play nice
carmine summit
Standalone ecu
indigo coral
(even transmission is ECT)
carmine summit
get a transmission the ecu can control
indigo coral
where tf would I put it?
its transverse v6 with some stupid backasswards transmission - theres no tunnel back thru the car
remote ridge
fair enough
carmine summit
I just went to my local wrecking yard and the guy at the counter says they don't have the engine I want
Either he's wrong or they've scrapped a bunch of stuff since last year.
I'm going to check some more places but by the looks of things I might wind up doing a 1.8T instead of a diesel. Sucks because I'd be in a high class for SCCA rules, but then again I'd have a 1.8t
eager kite
@stoic ledge it's better to not have more than a foot intrusion into the cabin where the driver is than to have slightly higher G-force.
And @carmine summit The whole point is that the car absorbs the impact while keeping the cabin intact, meaning you have a super low chance of being injured in the crash.
carmine summit
yeah, but if you look there's a pole basically in the backseat
civic spoke
Did you guys hear that you can get the new 992 Carrera with an aero package?
viral matrix
vital glen
@viral matrix original
fossil imp
thats my car
night current
That Porsche looks kind of nice ngl
dense shard
Does it come with a manual transmission?
eager kite
@carmine summit what? the pole in that image has barely damaged the frame of the car, Definitely nowhere near intruding into the cabin
jagged coyote
damn poor tesla
but proof that they are made like freaking tanks
what did it have, tboned by a light runner?
jagged coyote
looks like that laptop was in the crash too
wow straight into the pole, how much force was that
stoic ledge
About 3
jagged coyote
3 what? houga dougas?
stoic ledge
Yes
jagged coyote
that's alot 
vital glen
@jagged coyote F = MA
jagged coyote
duh, i'm not in engineering school and had to learn that
but here there is also torque involved
bcs the car was hit in about the middle, and the pole hit at the end, so twice the amount of force
vital glen
No
jagged coyote
bruh, basic lever
indigo coral
^
tropic silo
Ever tried to stab yourself with a brick? Doesn't work.
Try it with a needle, goes in way easier because the area of impact is tiny
vital glen
Now you are getting into pressure?
indigo coral
That's why stepping on a Lego hurts so fuckin much
tropic silo
^ exactly
jagged coyote
and a "huga duga" isn't a real force, it's like if you had a tight bolt, and you had to put all your weight in it, with a 2m long breaker bar @vital glen
vital glen
@jagged coyote Yeah
tropic silo
^ i knew that formula. Learned it in school, but don't remember anymore
jagged coyote
the F= m * a one?
vital glen
it's the radius, in this case 2m, multiplied by the force, multiplied by sin theta
I am not bothered to get out the greek letters to copy paste them
tropic silo
Think it was F = m×a
vital glen
that is force
jagged coyote
yep, force equals mass times acceleration
stoic ledge
Who looks both sides on an intersection? The light is green!
(/s)
dense shard
It's kind of like those stupid driver videos.
After a point you start getting confused on who the bad driver actually is.
stoic ledge
Of course the red light runner, but by looking if the intersection is safe (there could be a police car/ambulance/... Coming) this could have been avoided
You can drive like the best driver ever, but other people still make mistakes
You always have to assume all other drivers suck 😛
Also: why do people always film there bloody screen? Just upload the damn video directly to YouTube/Twitter/...
dense shard
The light had just turned green. The guy driving didn't even try to slow down.
Unless he's super naive, there's always one jerk who decides that a grace period is allowed after a light turns red.
Not his fault, sure. But a cold comfort for a totaled 90k car.
tl;dr: Defensive driving is safer driving.
stoic ledge
^ yes
remote ridge
driving is better than sitting
stoic ledge
I like to drive fast, but I always look out for idiots who can't drive xD
vital glen
@stoic ledge I look out for people like you
stoic ledge
Good
stoic ledge
That is... Exactly what we've been saying
vital glen
I watched the video again
it was about 2 seconds after leaving the light
then about a 2second crash
jagged coyote
@stoic ledge I mean, the light just turned green, just better to look out for idiots
like for instance, just this afternoon i witnessed someone getting run over bcs he was an idiot and rushed through the road when we were starting to move
stoic ledge
Again... That's exactly what we've been saying xD
eager kite
I mean, there was no good way for him to look left going into the intersection bc there was a car in his way
But good thing he was driving a Model 3, uninjured and could get a new one for pretty cheap, especially since his insurance won't be paying for it.
indigo coral
Why wouldn't he get insurance for it? He's not at fault.
eager kite
No I mean his insurance isn't paying, the truck's insurance will
(If it had insurance)
indigo coral
Ohhh yeah.
eager kite
vital glen
@eager kite
- ewww viral hog
- Who ever modified that f250 must be ashamed of himself
- it's 2wd and the wheels that have power are barely touching the ground
civic spoke
To the Tesla crash above. Here's the side picture.
eager kite
Such a tank
night current
Tesla does make a very safe vehicle
remote ridge
dang, maybe the house payment for a car is worth it
eager kite
I mean it's the price of the average car
indigo coral
more than "average" but yeah
eager kite
If you fully decked out a Model S you could get it to that
But the Model 3 (which is the crashed car above) starts at 35K
indigo coral
more like 39k but yeah
eager kite
you can get the base model for 35K....
dense shard
35k was a scam.
indigo coral
^
dense shard
No... you really can't.
eager kite
Yes you can
indigo coral
don't think the 35k exists anymore
dense shard
prove it
indigo coral
they had it for a whiel and took it down
if I was gonna get one I'd go Performance personally
eager kite
You have to call them or go to a location to order the 35K model
but it is still available for purchase
indigo coral
how long ago was that posted?
dense shard
5 months ago.
eager kite
April this year
indigo coral
exactly
dense shard
There's no 35k option on the site.
And doing a special in store special order doesn't count as on offer.
You can't find stripper Model 3s in the wild.
eager kite
They had it on their website for a while, but on the Q1 earnings call they said that they got 6x more sales of the standard range plus than the standard range, so they removed it from the site so they could streamline production to be more standard range pluses
dense shard
They nixed the base. no cloth seats even.
indigo coral
I would never get a base model car - I'd get the Model 3 Performance if I was to buy one
^
dense shard
Apparently they never had those plans.
eager kite
But it is still purchasable
eager kite
?
You can call or go to one of their stores and order a base model 3
Most people don't because the standard range plus is a way better deal for 4K more
but the option is still there
dense shard
I remember when Elon Musk said the Model 3 starts at 35k. That you can option it out as such online.
To go back on that and make it a special order is a pretty big lie.
eager kite
And it was for a while
dense shard
Especially since he ended up delaying the model 3 base so long the tax credit expired.
eager kite
the tax credit is still a thing...
eager kite
yes, but still a thing
dense shard
3250 is literally half.
eager kite
and it wouldn't matter what vehicles sold
dense shard
It's a thing, but nowhere close as much.
eager kite
any owner would get that credit
dense shard
And people were hedging their bets on the base 3... so they could get a Model 3 for under 30k.
That never happened.
eager kite
You can still get a model 3 for under 30k depending on where you live in the US
Hell, in some places it can be under 20K
dense shard
where?
indigo coral
^
eager kite
Cali
indigo coral
no?
eager kite
yea.....
indigo coral
under 20k?
dense shard
California offers 20 grand in tax credits?
eager kite
Federal tax credit, state tax credit, no sales tax, local city incentives...
dense shard
How much are those?
indigo coral
That doesnt make it below 20k LOL.
dense shard
3250 for federal.
indigo coral
If its below 20k guess I'm not buying a stinger
dense shard
State credit is how much?
eager kite
It comes out to around 15K when you add it all up last time I did it
indigo coral
no it doesn't.
dense shard
California is 7 grand.
indigo coral
there's no way on gods green earth theres 25k off a base Model 3
eager kite
maybe that was before when the federal credit was 7500
dense shard
So 10 grand off the base.
eager kite
but even if it's half
dense shard
So IF you order the base model... which I doubt they'll do right now.
eager kite
you're still getting 12G off the price
dense shard
35 minus 10.
indigo coral
keep in mind thats not "off the price"
dense shard
dense shard
Plus taxes and licenses.
eager kite
Ok, lets be honest
dense shard
A Bolt is cheaper.
indigo coral
A bolt kinda sucks though
dense shard
So does a Model 3.
indigo coral
I took one for a spin, the interior is godawful
eager kite
most people buying teslas in cali are going to be making enough money to get the full benefit from these tax credits
dense shard
At least the Bolt is assembled correctly.
indigo coral
the Model 3 is a better EV
???
its interior is sooo cheap
the Model 3 is better than S or X for interior quality
dense shard
that's saying nothing
eager kite
bruh Chevy loses money every time they sell a bolt
dense shard
So does Tesla.
eager kite
?
dense shard
I mean hell... Tesla turned a profit once last year?
Last I checked they're losing money.
eager kite
you realize Tesla makes amazing margins on their cars right
indigo coral
Meh. I'm going to stick to saving for a Stinger GT2
dense shard
so their massive loses are?
eager kite
They have one of the highest gross margins in the auto industry
indigo coral
and wait to buy a Tesla until they get their shit sorted out
eager kite
Oh they aren't profitable because they chose not to be
indigo coral
Theyre not amazon.
They have incredibly high expenses and cannot make money at the moment.
dense shard
Tesla is trying to be profitable.
eager kite
It would slow their growth if they had to be profitable
dense shard
Elon has been promising profit for 5 years now.
eager kite
not right now they aren't
indigo coral
We can agree to disagree. Biggest reason I'd never buy a Tesla atm is that if the company goes under, you're totally fucked
eager kite
They're building an entire factory in China right now, they aren't concerned with profit
dense shard
"Despite its huge popularity, Tesla bears continue to slam the company. Tesla continues to struggle for sustainable profitability. CEO Elon Musk has, on multiple occasions, spoken about Tesla’s ability to achieve sustainable profitability in the near term."
They are.
Very much so.
eager kite
Not at all
dense shard
Read what I posted.
indigo coral
no software, no autopilot updates, no parts, any used parts you buy have to be coded to the car, etc.
dense shard
This isn't me talking.
eager kite
It wouldn't benefit them in any way to be profitable right now
dense shard
These are market analysts.
indigo coral
yes it would Lmao
dense shard
uhhhh