cars

[rotund matrix]

ah gotcha

the Acura TLX is a 'upper tier sedan' here iirc

[stoic ledge]

Acura TSX*

[rotund matrix]

ye

TSX as well

Acura in general is like, a step above the "normal cars" here ig

i think?

[stoic ledge]

This one

[rotund matrix]

that is...interesting to see

[stoic ledge]

Yeah a bit

It's a Wagon

[rotund matrix]

reminds me of this:

honda crosstour

[stoic ledge]

Discontinued in 2015 apparently

[rotund matrix]

wtf that's so weird to see, we don't have an Accord wagon lmao

[stoic ledge]

Yikes the Crosstour is odd

[rotund matrix]

and looks nothing like a honda here

agreed

they're ugly imo

[stoic ledge]

It's just a TSX wagon tbh, the sedan is 1:1 a TSX with Honda badging

LOL yikes glad we don't have the Crosstour around here

[rotund matrix]

...i don't know that we have a TSX wagon here actually

don't think I've ever seen an acura wagon

[stoic ledge]

No you guys didn't xD

[rotund matrix]

ok didn't think so

[stoic ledge]

Hang on, you guys did

[rotund matrix]

oh?

[stoic ledge]

According to wikipedia

Acura TSX Sport Wagon as a 2011 model

[rotund matrix]

sure enough yeah

that's why I don't recognize it

discontinued and prolly sold like shit here

[stoic ledge]

I think they are cool tho

But discontinued so

[rotund matrix]

they're okay imo

ngl would take that Buick Regal TourX over that acura 👀

[stoic ledge]

Same

We also had the previous gen Regal as a Wagon btw

[rotund matrix]

[rotund matrix]

not bad not bad

[wheat hatch]

V6

Opel

Ples

[rotund matrix]

would be sweet if we get the corolla hatchback in the US

but I don't think we are getting it

[wheat hatch]

It looks cool

[stoic ledge]

You guys do have the hatchback

I think you meant the Wagon

[wheat hatch]

Only if it had the performance to back it up

[stoic ledge]

(Touring Sports)

[rotund matrix]

er; wagon

yeah

not hatchback

[wheat hatch]

Too many cars that got the looks, but not the performance

[stoic ledge]

The 180hp hybrid isn't bad 🙂

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

I feel sad the Saab 9-5 NG SportsCombi never went in to production tho

[rotund matrix]

my mom had to take her car back to do some stuff but damn i was enjoying having that 201hp 4cyl

[stoic ledge]

201hp

I already enjoy the "power" in my parents car: 170hp

Twice as much as mine

😛

[rotund matrix]

so much more fun than my 170hp CVT

o

[stoic ledge]

> CVT

My parents car is turbocharged and a manual, so that's always more fun

[rotund matrix]

one day I'll have me a nice car

till then my rogue will do :P

[stoic ledge]

It's packed in to a freaking mini-van tho

^^ same, one day xD

[rotund matrix]

oh? nice

what van?

[stoic ledge]

Sec, i'll get you a pic

Again:

[rotund matrix]

what's the US equiv of that?

interesting little car

[dense shard]

Nothing

[stoic ledge]

There isn't one

[rotund matrix]

didn't think so

[stoic ledge]

It's kinda the same size a a short C-Max (not the larger one)

[rotund matrix]

reminded me of the old Yaris lmfao

[tropic silo]

Why blur the plate?

[stoic ledge]

Not sure which one the US got, lemme check

[dense shard]

Finally driving my car in the rain

[stoic ledge]

It was already blurred in this pic

[tropic silo]

Hmmmm

[stoic ledge]

But 3KDN81 if you want

[tropic silo]

Lol

[dense shard]

Weird design quirk I found

Rear end gets a lot of spray from the road

Not an issue my Suzuki had.

[stoic ledge]

Yikes

What Suzuki did you have?

[rotund matrix]

i see a suzuki here every few months

quite rare

same w/ saab

[dense shard]

Cervo

[stoic ledge]

I see them sometimes, not that often

[dense shard]

A little kei car

[stoic ledge]

LOL

Nice

[dense shard]

Adorable 3 popper turbo

[stoic ledge]

Kei cars are awesome

[dense shard]

Pink

[stoic ledge]

LOL no way

[dense shard]

Way

[stoic ledge]

@rotund matrix I've checked, it's kinda the same size as the C-Max you have in the US, a bit larger than a Honda FIt. To give you an idea

[rotund matrix]

gotcha

[stoic ledge]

Cool 😄

[rotund matrix]

so a small van

ngl the new honda fit is kinda nice too

[stoic ledge]

Yes, but it's basically a Rolls-Royce

😛

[dense shard]

Intercooler the size of a volume of manga

[rotund matrix]

they're testing em rn

[stoic ledge]

Kei cars are damn cool

@rotund matrix what's that?

[dense shard]

60 horsepower... Peppy for a car weighing 900kg

[rotund matrix]

2020 Honda Fit/Jazz

[stoic ledge]

Ah ok

Nice

[dense shard]

New Fit?

[rotund matrix]

yuh

[dense shard]

About time

[stoic ledge]

^ yeah the current fit is old

[dense shard]

C'mon Fit Si

[stoic ledge]

Ah well not that old

2013

[dense shard]

6 years

Very old

Average change over is 4 years

5 on the outside

[stoic ledge]

Bwah not really, most cars have a cycle for +- 6 years

[dense shard]

Ford and Nissan don't count

[stoic ledge]

European brands too?

[dense shard]

Most brands operate on 4-5 years. Can't speak for Europe

[dense shard]

US is hyper competitive

[stoic ledge]

Can't really think of any EU car being replaced after 4 years tbh 😛

Could be different in the US

@rotund matrix Does the new Fit have backwards opening doors? 😛

[rotund matrix]

owo nice audi

also I HIGHLY doubt

that's kinda sweet

[stoic ledge]

xD

[rotund matrix]

i still very much love the RS7

[night current]

Yes, the Audi Rs6 Avant 😍

[stoic ledge]

To bad they'll all be used as get-away cars after a heist

[night current]

Lol

[rotund matrix]

[night current]

Oooooooo!

Very nice

[rotund matrix]

would def drive

[night current]

^

[stoic ledge]

The faith of all RS6's

[rotund matrix]

[night current]

LOL

😭

[stoic ledge]

Or RS4

[rotund matrix]

that's cause they gotta go fast

[night current]

Speedwagon

[rotund matrix]

SPEEDWAGON

[rotund matrix]

speedwagon drives an audi confirmed

[stoic ledge]

But yeah, many of those get stolen (all generations) and a couple of weeks later, they are in the news

[night current]

Can confirm

[stoic ledge]

Anybody remember the Jon Olsson RS6?

[night current]

Speedwagon isnt dead, he just asked Stroheim to turn him into an Audi Wagon. Lol

Yes

That was a fat f

[rotund matrix]

not wrong, also F

[stoic ledge]

Also funny that after diesel gate... European S4/S6's are diesel

US Spec is still gas tho

[night current]

Lol

[tight cypress]

okok

now i got better parts to Kaas

so much POWERR

[night current]

I only speak gasoline and electric, I have a hard time dealing with Diesel

[stoic ledge]

🧀

Diesel is for farming equipment

[tight cypress]

you mean,MPÖ

we have EVEN cheaper version of diesel here

its that fuel oil thinky u know

[stoic ledge]

Is MPÖ what Google suggests what it is?

[tight cypress]

literally

but they have it in gas stations here

besauce people use that for farming equipment

[stoic ledge]

ok

Is it like red diesel

[tight cypress]

yes

[stoic ledge]

(tax free)

[tight cypress]

i use it for vehicles that use diesel

besauce cheapo life

[stoic ledge]

We did have that too... but then the government just scratched it

SO now farming equipment etc also have to pay full price

[tight cypress]

thats expensive

really,REALLY expensive

[stoic ledge]

Yes I know

Gotta love 🇳🇱

[tight cypress]

gotta love🇫🇮

what is this

homework from 1 subject

am i in heaven?

[stoic ledge]

All diesel here these days is atleast B7 around here (7% biodiesel)

[dense shard]

Bleh

Biofuels are yuck

[night current]

I have no homework in any subjects.... 🇺🇸

[stoic ledge]

Gas is rated as E5 (or E10), stating 5- to 10% ethanol

[dense shard]

Bad for the environment, bad for cars, bad for fuel economy

[stoic ledge]

yes

[dense shard]

Gas should be E0

[stoic ledge]

Yes, but tHaT iS bAd FoR tHe eNvIroNmEnt

(according to the EU)

[dense shard]

Not as bad as corn ethanol

[stoic ledge]

FlexFuel E85 cars

[dense shard]

Boooo

[stoic ledge]

It's confusing too now, in The Netherlands you can get regular (95) as both 95E5 and 95E10, premium (98) only as 98E5.

But in Belgium for example, you can only get E5 (implying 98) or E10 (implying 95)

So "one system" but not quite

[vital glen]

@stoic ledge Every country should have a letter representing different fuels

[stoic ledge]

Sure, but make it the same for all countries

[rotund matrix]

lmfao FlexFuel

i remember that trying to be relevant 10 years ago

my dad's Tahoe is technically E85 FlexFuel-able

[stoic ledge]

Yeah we had a few cars too

Ford Mondeo/Focus/S-Max, Volvo (multiple versions)

But there are almost 0 gas stations who offer E85 xD

Your dad should have gotten the Hybrid Tahoe xD

[rotund matrix]

i remember seeing two or three of them irl then haven't seen them in YEARS

i think people who got em got rid of em fast

[dense shard]

Few cars used em, and usually got shit fuel economy when they did.

[desert glen]

Any of you own a focus ST?

Or have owned

[dense shard]

No, but I nearly looked at one.

[stoic ledge]

Nope

[dense shard]

Damn shame Ford stopped making em recently.

[rotund matrix]

i've only driven one ford focus and it had the worst transmission i've ever driven using

was stuttery as fuck

[desert glen]

Jw, test drove a 14’ and really liked it

Looking at getting one as a replacement for my volvo

[rotund matrix]

hey if yours feels fine then sure

i just remember my aunt had a focus for a while and the transmission died like twice in the time they had it

ford covered the fixing but it always felt and drove like shit :P

[desert glen]

I know they had transmission problems early on

Just have to justify that my volvo is too expensive to repair and get my parents to cosign

[rotund matrix]

[desert glen]

Also my car is expensive as hell to fill up

[dense shard]

The Focus issues were largely related to early Sync systems and the DCT transmission.

Not really an issue in the ST since it was manual only.

Tiny gas tank tho.

[stoic ledge]

There is a new Focus ST 😛

https://topgear.nl/thumbs/hd/2019/02/ford-focus-st-2019-11-e1550478597885.jpg

[rotund matrix]

i kinda liked the focus line ngl

[stoic ledge]

2.3 EcoBoost 280hp

[rotund matrix]

daaaamn

that would be fun

[desert glen]

One im looking at

Prefer the catfish grille style more tho

[stoic ledge]

Not bad... Not really a fan of those rims tho

[desert glen]

Yeah

[rotund matrix]

not bad looking tho

i'd drive it for sure

[desert glen]

Alloy would look good on it

[rotund matrix]

[fathom socket]

braap

[stoic ledge]

Ok mud flaps, that exhaust... Now that's just bad

[rotund matrix]

stock rims look good on it too, ngl

i was mostly talking about the rims/calipers on it tbh @stoic ledge

[stoic ledge]

Ah xD

[desert glen]

Could get a focus RS

[stoic ledge]

Do it

[desert glen]

Gotta find one first

[stoic ledge]

Inb4 failed head gasket

[rotund matrix]

yikes.png

[stoic ledge]

4WD tho

[desert glen]

Snow usability is overrated anyway

[stoic ledge]

Drift mode tho

[stoic ledge]

Yes, buy it

[rotund matrix]

owo

hot

monochrome is clean af

you: that civic in the back right
the guy she tells you not to worry about: that focus

[stoic ledge]

Yes xD

[desert glen]

I wonder if Nicky V’s customs is still open to business

[stoic ledge]

[indigo coral]

[stoic ledge]

falcon

[desert glen]

Gotta sit on it

And take my car to get looked at

[indigo coral]

You know what car is better than a focus?

😈

[desert glen]

No car?

[indigo coral]

Mk knows what I'm gonna say

Lul

Stinger GT

[desert glen]

I left my headphones at home and my next class starts at 1

: (

[indigo coral]

Rip

[stoic ledge]

> taking headphones to school

Also: did not see the stinger coming xD

[desert glen]

Its a 2 1/2 hour class too

[dense shard]

The gasket issue was fixed on the RS I recall.

Also I could have sworn the new ST is a 2.0.

nope... 2.3. What the hell Ford. Surely you could have tuned a 2.0T to 280.

This isn't gonna make people who pay the displacement taxes very happy.

[desert glen]

laughs in american

[indigo coral]

^

[dense shard]

We're not getting the new Focus.

Not sure what there is to laugh about.

[indigo coral]

not having to pay 3x the price of the car in taxes

[night current]

🇺🇸

[indigo coral]

Like @stoic ledge

[dense shard]

We're not paying anything because it's not being sold in the US.

[desert glen]

Imagine having to pay tax to have more displacement

[night current]

😍 🇺🇸 😍

[dense shard]

I'm fine with that. I've finally upgraded to a 2.0.

1.3 liters bigger than my last car.

[indigo coral]

3L here rip

[desert glen]

2.4

[night current]

4.6 L

[indigo coral]

(3L V6, 220hp)

[stoic ledge]

1.2

[dense shard]

.5L smaller than my first car, same power, vastly better fuel economy.

[desert glen]

its weird, anything bigger than 3L is considered big now

[dense shard]

Anything bigger than 3 was always big to me.

[indigo coral]

3.3l twin turbo in my next car :)

[stoic ledge]

Anything over 1.5L is considered big now

[dense shard]

Honestly the V6 in the old Ford Contours was massive.

2.5L V6 in a compact car. wowee that car could fly.

[desert glen]

Wish my parents got the Ecoboost in the explorer

[stoic ledge]

Mondeo with 2.5T 5-cyl Volvo engine

[desert glen]

• z o o m *

[dense shard]

nah skip

Gotta have that duratec.

[indigo coral]

My parents have it

[dense shard]

That was a sweet sounding engine

[indigo coral]

3.5L twin turbo, same in our Taurus

[stoic ledge]

Lol can't read

[dense shard]

And best intake this side of a Yamaha.

Dual length intake runners.

[desert glen]

The na explorers aren’t half bad

[dense shard]

High tech stuff back in the day.

[stoic ledge]

[indigo coral]

Mom has a '14 Explorer Sport, Dad has '13 Taurus SHO

[dense shard]

Even had VTEC(E)

[stoic ledge]

[dense shard]

https://s.aolcdn.com/commerce/autodata/images/USB00FOC021B0104.jpg

[night current]

Probably better than the northstar I have in my car

[dense shard]

It was fun. Then again anything is fun with a manual.

[stoic ledge]

We calculated yesterday (falcon and I): an Explorer Sport would be Lol well that would be
171,536‬ USD

[indigo coral]

1MZ-FE = slow

[stoic ledge]

Lol is that an ST220?

Or 200?

[dense shard]

nah

That's the Contour. SE most likely.

[indigo coral]

My Rx has 220 but it's still a slowpoke cause the trans is godawful

[dense shard]

SVT had a different intake and the runners were painted black.

[stoic ledge]

https://www.vagdrivers.net/forums/uploads/monthly_09_2009/post-14221-1251793959.jpg

ST200 ^

[dense shard]

looks like

[desert glen]

I wonder if i could buy a boxed T6 motor

[dense shard]

Honestly wasn't a huge fan of the Euro Ford Mondeo.

I always found the USDM version to be nicer looking.

[desert glen]

And drop it in my car

[stoic ledge]

Volvo T6?

And uh idk what the US Mondeo looked like

Can't remember*

[desert glen]

Volvo T6 yes

[dense shard]

The front end was near identical.

It was the rear end where it fell apart in Europe.

It's like they designed a station wagon... then got the interns to do the hatch and sedan versions.

[stoic ledge]

https://file.kelleybluebookimages.com/kbb/base/house/1997/1997-Ford-Contour-RearSide_FOCON973_505x375.jpg?interpolation=high-quality&downsize=391:*
This isn't nice looking either..

[dense shard]

That's the gen 1, and this is the mondeo

https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/gallery/FORDMondeoHatchback-862_3.jpg

It looks... after thoughtish

[stoic ledge]

The US version isn't really that much better

[dense shard]

https://preview2.netcarshow.com/Ford-Contour-2000-1600-08.jpg The gen 2 looked vastly better.

[stoic ledge]

Also Wagon > sedan (:

[desert glen]

I really like the fusion

[dense shard]

Ford wagons were always dreadfully boring.

Here we go. Gen 2... or refresh.

It fit with other Ford cars of the era.

[stoic ledge]

http://www.arabateknikbilgi.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/ArabaTeknikBilgi-Ford-Mondeo-II.jpg

[dense shard]

nope, skip

That's genuinely horrible.

And a bit weird that a world car's styling could vary that much.

[stoic ledge]

Ford cars then were weird, new style Focus, this Mondeo, small new Ka

[desert glen]

The 90’s and early 2000’s were odd

[dense shard]

The late 90s Taurus... the bean.

[desert glen]

Bean

[dense shard]

Well... more of a suppository.

[stoic ledge]

Peugeot 406 was nice tho in that era xD

Especially the Coupe

https://assets.gocar.be/picserver1/userdata/1/25370/VmhXuhgqF/54942201-1.jpg

[dense shard]

not bad

Very 90s/00s

[stoic ledge]

But even the regular versions:
https://media.autoweek.nl/m/k79yue4btwzl_800.jpg

[dense shard]

Lights seem ahead of their time.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah it came out in 1996 iirc, till 2003

[dense shard]

Thin style.

[stoic ledge]

1995-2004*

https://static.autoblog.nl/images/wp2018/peugeot-406-berline-red-front-side-1995-750-2.jpg

Doesn't look like a 20+ year old car if you ask me

[dense shard]

Reminds me of Honda tbh.

Remember the 98-02 Accord?

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[dense shard]

It aged well.

This 406 and the Accord.

[stoic ledge]

The European accord was a bit different tho

[dense shard]

true

[stoic ledge]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/2002_Honda_Accord_VTEC_S_1.9_Front.jpg/1280px-2002_Honda_Accord_VTEC_S_1.9_Front.jpg

[dense shard]

Classic Honda there.

[stoic ledge]

Yup

[dense shard]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5fjn8xg1fq8/maxresdefault.jpg I have more of this in mind, but unlike Ford, Honda keeps their styling more consistent in other markets.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah

[dense shard]

Different platform, but meh... looks good either way.

[stoic ledge]

Yup

Never see them anymore tho

Most are exported

[dense shard]

The EDM or USDM?

Cause all the US Accords I see look really rough.

[stoic ledge]

The EU spec

[dense shard]

ahhhh, weren't they not very popular to begin with?

[stoic ledge]

That too xD

[dense shard]

I remember Europe had the hatchback a ways back.

The A E R O D E C K

very aesthetic.

[stoic ledge]

Civic Aerodeck

[dense shard]

oh, Civic?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d7/23/26/d72326f54cfa802f7db24d6d53d49d7a.jpg nah Accord

Look at it. So 80s.

unf

[stoic ledge]

https://d1ix0byejyn2u7.cloudfront.net/drive/images/made/drive/images/remote/https_f2.caranddriving.com/images/used/big/honcivicaerodeck2_750_500_70.jpg

Ah lol yes that one too

But they used the name again for the Civic

The Accord Aerodeck you linked still exists

Has been with the same owner since 1994

[rotund matrix]

[stoic ledge]

[dense shard]

Car that'd older than I am.

[stoic ledge]

Same

[rotund matrix]

same kek

[dense shard]

To be fair the Berlin Wall was still a thing when I was born.

[tropic silo]

Someone buy me a new headlight pls

The bulb is dead

[stoic ledge]

Get a new bulb at action for like €1.69

Or a Philips bulb for €4

For get it replaced for you for €14

[indigo coral]

I almost ended up getting a 2002 Accord v6

Had a metric fuckton of miles but was very well maintained and in fantastic conditikn

[stoic ledge]

A metric fuckton of miles

[dense shard]

And a rebuilt transmission probably.

[stoic ledge]

As long as you are not the guy having to rebuild it, who cares xD

[dense shard]

That generation of Honda transmissions are notorious.

Apparently the early 6 speeds were no better.

[stoic ledge]

I have no idea xD

I know the diesel 2.2 ate their clutches xD

[dense shard]

ouch

What was that about Honda being dead reliable?

[stoic ledge]

Toyota also had some bad diesels in their Avensis tho xD

What was that about Toyota being dead reliable?

Or Aygos with windows falling out

Or Aygos with sudden broken clutch/gearbox/driveshaft?

😛

[dense shard]

A window falling out is a dramatically smaller issue than the transmission grenading itself.

Honda never fixed the 4 speed automatics. They extended a warranty after being taken to court.

[stoic ledge]

Bwah clutch gone after 30k miles/50k km isn't a sign of quality tho xD

Lol > 4 speed auto

[dense shard]

It was the 90s.

[stoic ledge]

Still xD

[dense shard]

5 speed autoboxes were pretty rare in the 90s.

[stoic ledge]

> No 9 speed dual clutch in the 90s, tssk

[dense shard]

Hell car makers didn't embrace higher numbers till the mid 00s.

oh because DCT is such a reliable and solid technology.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah i know, I'm just kidding

Hahaha DCT and reliable, hell no

[dense shard]

Whoever thinks DCT in mainstream cars is a good idea should be made to push boulders up hills.

[stoic ledge]

Especially if they apply dry clutches

[dense shard]

Even the wet clutches aren't great.

[stoic ledge]

No, but the dry ones are even worse

I'll a manual all day xD

[indigo coral]

My RX has a shit 4 speed too

So 🤷

[stoic ledge]

Which you can't rev too high because it can't handle it?

[dense shard]

I'll take a 4 over a 7 DCT.

[indigo coral]

I really wish Lexus had put the powertrain from the LS in my car

4 liter V8, powerul and smooth, and a really nice 5 speed auto

It functions okay in my car MK but it's prone to issues in a lot of RX from the first gen

[stoic ledge]

[indigo coral]

I've gotten it close to redline a number of times, works fine. Though engine burns just a bit of oil when I drive like that.

Have to add about a quart every 2500miles

[stoic ledge]

Well within VWs factory specs

[indigo coral]

lol

Shouldn't burn a drop but it does do a bit

Not blue smoke or anything just add a bit here and there

[dense shard]

VW factory specs... I'm sure they also planned the emissions to stop working in daily driving.

[indigo coral]

Lol

[stoic ledge]

Lol

[dense shard]

"working as intended"

It's amazing the champion of diesel cars killed them.

[stoic ledge]

And still people buy them

[indigo coral]

lol glad cause diesel is expensive af over here

[dense shard]

One day.

VW will figure out the US market.

[stoic ledge]

Step 1) make reliable cars
Step 2) make sure they are not overpriced

Profit

[dense shard]

Worked for Toyota.

And I suppose Honda to some extent.

[stoic ledge]

And Kia/Hyundai

[dense shard]

Dunno about reliable, but they used to be cheap.

[stoic ledge]

They are reliable here, but I've heard some mixed stories in the US

[rotund matrix]

as far as Hondas and Toyotas go, they tend to be some of the most reliable cars in the US

[stoic ledge]

Honda doesn't sell that many cars here (0.36% market share this year ) so no verdict there

Toyota's are quite reliable

Not really major issues

Only the super cheap and small Aygo has some gearbox issues

[rotund matrix]

honda is about 9-10% here

well, more like 8-9%

[stoic ledge]

Honda: 0.36%
Subaru: 0.10%
Toyota: 5.86%
Nissan: 2.98%
Kia: 5.92%
Hyundai: 3.39%
Lexus: 0.23%

VW: 11.4%
Opel: 8.04%
Ford: 6.26%
Peugeot: 7.25%
Renault: 5.66%
Skoda: 4.38%
Seat: 2.73%
Tesla: 2.63% (all company cars)
Fiat: 1.16%
Jeep: 0.35%
Alfa Romeo: 0.19%
Dacia: 0.67%
BMW: 5.43%
Audi: 3.17%
Volvo: 4.28%
Mercedes: 3.96%

[tight cypress]

whats this

[stoic ledge]

Market share

[indigo coral]

lol lexus only 0.23%

though don't you only get the CT

?

[rotund matrix]

2018 in the US

[tight cypress]

oh boy lemme see finland

nvm cant find a one

[stoic ledge]

though don't you only get the CT

CT, ES, IS, LS, RX, NX, UX, RC, LC

1. Ford
2. Toyota
3. Chevy

Completely different than here xD

[indigo coral]

Oh you get them all? I thought you had mentioned only getting the CT

[stoic ledge]

Nope all of the ones above

[indigo coral]

Nice

[fathom socket]

Alfa Romeo postd

there's still a 155 in the back so I guess this counts to be here

[tropic silo]

Internering

Tf

Interesting

[stoic ledge]

That's not you typical standard Alfa Romeo 😛

Also: nice license plate in case you can't remember the make of your car

[tropic silo]

Loool

I have to replace both headlights because they shop doesn't have a original replacement bulb

[stoic ledge]

KEK

[wheat hatch]

[bitter compass]

derp vw technically has 21% marketshare according to that list

[stoic ledge]

Yes, yikes

[bitter compass]

audi, porsche, seat, vw, skoda

i don't even know anymore why they make the effort to design cars differently for seat

or sometimes just design little elements differently

like the seat and Skoda variants of the up 👀

I'd be cheaper to just make the same car

[stoic ledge]

Mii/Citigo

Seat setup should be "more sporty"

Skoda setup should be "more spacious/value"

Audi setup should be "more luxurious"

[bitter compass]

and vw be like

ye we got all of that

leon vs golf vs a3

basically the same car just designed differently

[stoic ledge]

If I had to choose between those 3... I'd pick the Octavia

[bitter compass]

golf and Leon even git the same interior 👀

[stoic ledge]

Nah it's a bit different

[bitter compass]

idk

[stoic ledge]

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/lPWG6/s1/volkswagen-golf-ready2go.jpg
https://i.blogs.es/ab71c6/seat-leon-interior/450_1000.jpg

[bitter compass]

we got an 3/4 year old golf and a half year old Leon was like the same 👀

[stoic ledge]

Older Seat Toledo/Leon and Audi A3 had the same interior

VW Polo and Audi A1 (current) have the same interior

[bitter compass]

up and mii and citigo xd

[stoic ledge]

Those are the same xD

Seat Alhambra and VW Sharan too

[bitter compass]

colors are different tho

[stoic ledge]

1st Superb == Chinese VW Passat LWB

Yeah VW is 50 shades of gray, Skoda/Seat == haply green and yellow

[bitter compass]

seatand skoda didn't have that reflecting piece of shit in the interior of the up

the first up had so stupid design ideas

reflecting inside

mirror on the driverside in the suncoverthingy

[stoic ledge]

Lol xD

[bitter compass]

it drives beautifully and for that size feels pretty comfortable in terms of space

but heck these little annoying things

[stoic ledge]

You can get it as a GTI now 😄

115hp 😛

1.0 TSI

[bitter compass]

conclusion of my 2015 up, its good but would not buy again

[stoic ledge]

> buying a VW

It's nice under lease/warranty, wouldn't drive it afterwards

[bitter compass]

im german we all have german cars 👀

stop formatting discord

xd

[fossil imp]

[stoic ledge]

> not driving

xD

Pro-tip: type \> instead of >

[fossil imp]

why

bother

this isnt a forum where u quote posts 😄

[stoic ledge]

> yes

[bitter compass]

we actually never had a car that inst from vw except one opel

[stoic ledge]

Tssk

[bitter compass]

golf, golf variant, golf, felicia, stupid zafira, caddy, up, golf

actually

[stoic ledge]

Felicia 💩

stupid Zafira

[bitter compass]

and a trabant that my dad put too close to a heater

[stoic ledge]

Classic

[bitter compass]

it burned

xd

[stoic ledge]

Yes I assumed it did xD

405, 306, 306 Break, 307 Break, Meriva

And my Corsa

[bitter compass]

i seriously don't trust opel

[stoic ledge]

Yet you trust VW

[bitter compass]

the only crash i was involved in was because in pretty new opel couldn't turn

[stoic ledge]

[bitter compass]

idk how that happened but a 180° into a tree is an interesting trick

[stoic ledge]

LOL

Yikes

[bitter compass]

my family got rid of that car even tho it was capable of driving if someone had fixed the steering but nobody trusts opel since then xdd

[fossil imp]

🤔 sounds like user error

[stoic ledge]

Very odd

[bitter compass]

🤷

i did not drive

[stoic ledge]

😮

[bitter compass]

i avoid bigger cars than the golf

i hated the caddy

the only thibg i appreciated about the caddy was the backwards driving assistance

i mean an up is so small i don't need it but it would be neat

the camera on the golf is just overkill

and distractinf

[stoic ledge]

I have 0 backup assistance... now is the car not that big but the C-pillar is MASSIVE (3 door) so I can't see anything xD

[tropic silo]

I've parking sensors

Aftermarket ones

Previous owner installed them

[bitter compass]

wanna learn how to fix cars buuut its not as easy as a pc or anything electrical because its more expensive and im in that regard stereotypical german

i think about installing electrical mirror control

[tropic silo]

Lel,you dont have that?

You just have a nipple sticking out?

[bitter compass]

somehow not

yes nipple

[stoic ledge]

^^^^ aftermarket parking sensors are often ugly xD But hey if they work, and they are probably black on your Audi, then why not xD

[bitter compass]

its stupid

[stoic ledge]

Manual mirros

Mine aren't heated tho

[copper hill]

Oh sweet, a car channel

[stoic ledge]

😦

Cars

[tropic silo]

It's black yea. But with a silver circle.

[stoic ledge]

Lol yikes, why a silver circle

[tropic silo]

Mine aren't heated either i think

Because they came with silver rings?

[stoic ledge]

Heated mirrors where standard on nearly all Corsa's even on base models, but in NL they thought hey that's a feature wer're only putting in the top spec car

^^ why did they come with silver rings? xD

[tropic silo]

How should i know?!

[stoic ledge]

[tropic silo]

They just came with them!

The previous owner installed them

It's also not calibrated right. So i don't use them

It says like 10cm left. But meanwhile I'm still 30ish cm away from something

[stoic ledge]

Nice

So 0cm left == 20ish cm away from something?

[tropic silo]

No

0cm == 5 to 10cm

For some fucking reason

Also since it stops at around 15cm.
After that it just shows 0

And beeps aggressively

It's 40 - 30 - 20 - 15(?) - 0

[tight cypress]

@tropic silo who needs parking sensors

when you have eyes

[tropic silo]

I didn't install them. The previous owner did.

I don't use them since they're not accurate

So uhmm.... probs major problem, my shock absorber is covered in oil

[tight cypress]

aint an problem

if u dont think bout it

[tropic silo]

Uh

I would like the bumps to be absorbed

I don't want a bouncy rear end

[tight cypress]

why not

people would think that u have an lowrider

[tropic silo]

Only the rear right end is broken probs

[tight cypress]

i wouldnt even mind

[tropic silo]

I would

To high of a risk. It coulld be either the brakes or shock absorber so they don't recommend me driving

[indigo coral]

lexus should make an RX F

make it hella expensive and hella nice

compete with the cayenne

[stoic ledge]

make it hella expensive

Buy one in 🇳🇱

[indigo coral]

no like renovate interior

and give it a big fucking engine

tighten it up a bit suspension wise

make it a decent sport suv

i see tons of cayennes, G63s, even quite a few Bentaygas around here

RX F would do fairly well i think

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I understand

Just slam the V8 in it

[stoic ledge]

XC70/V70 CC

[civic spoke]

What about XC70 that has been lifted slightly?

[stoic ledge]

Lol that's... Strange

Big tires too

[dense shard]

30 miles away from having my engine broken in.

30 more miles till I can give 'er the beans.

[desert glen]

Lifted xc70 looks more like an xc90

[dense shard]

I'm assuming they're based on the same platform.

One Volvo has finally gotten rid of.

Only took em 15 years.

[desert glen]

They’re all the same

[dense shard]

They are now.

Not sure if for the best though.

[desert glen]

I need to clean mine

Now that im thinking about it

[dense shard]

Need to find a good cleaning routine for my car.

[desert glen]

I just make it look nice

[dense shard]

Trying to decide between more effort, or the bare minimum bucket wash and nu-finish

[desert glen]

My wax is still in pretty good shape

Wheels need to be cleaned well tho

[dense shard]

One thing I do know.

Asking reddit is not a great idea to get ideas.

[desert glen]

Wheels are a bitch?

[dense shard]

Depends on the wheels... I'm quite happy with my new car. Nice big alloys with lots of space.

Beats trying to wash crapped up hubcaps.

[desert glen]

I got a wheel brush it really helps

[dense shard]

wow... the autodetailing reddit has a wiki

and it's a valid link

[desert glen]

Armor All makes a really good wheel and tire cleaner

Might burn skin if it comes in contact but its pretty good

[dense shard]

I'll wear gloves.

Thanks for the tip.

Think I'll settle on more effort, but not go crazy.

[desert glen]

I still use brushes on my wheels but spraying the cleaner off with water does a pretty good job if you got decent coverage

[dense shard]

I'm probably gonna pick up a cheap paint brush or something from a hobby store.

Just looking at the prices for automotive detailing brushes... man, and here I thought loot crates were bs.

"hey guys, looking to get not shit at car detailing"
"well first you need to spend 50 dollars on a wheel detailing brush made with real Nepalese boar hair... it's what the pros use."

[desert glen]

I just have a cheap brush

[dense shard]

That's my plan. focus on cheap

[desert glen]

Don’t really care about the finish since it isn’t shiny in the first space

[dense shard]

I just want to care... or pretend I do.

Basically take some precaution against scratching up my paint.

[viral matrix]

[vital glen]

@viral matrix is that yours?

[viral matrix]

Ye

[stoic ledge]

[vital glen]

those rims are bad fit for the car and what tires are you runnin'? @viral matrix

[viral matrix]

235/45-17

How come they're bad fit

The car's just so high

60-80mm lower and it'd look mint

Won't do it though

[indigo coral]

I want bigger wheels but they're $$$

[viral matrix]

Got mine for 500€, not bad for new set of tires and rims.

Someone bought them for their project car which they ended up selling before even trying the rims on

They're still 1/3 of the price I paid for the car

[indigo coral]

Oh there only 400 USD for 18in rims for my car

Plus idk how much for tyres

[vital glen]

@viral matrix I meant stylistic wise and the make/model of the tire

[dense shard]

I don't think you could lower your car 80mm...

Not without some serious compromise to either suspension travel or camber.

[vital glen]

@indigo coral what does the lexus run now?

[indigo coral]

16in alloys. I want to get 18s from the 2nd generation RX 350

@vital glen

[vital glen]

oof

my luxobarge runs bigger tires

[fathom socket]

Get air suspension

Superlow

[vital glen]

the fuck

why are you recommending bags on a daily driver @fathom socket

[fathom socket]

I'd put bags on my daily driver

[vital glen]

A daily driver should not be modified heavily unless you need to

[dense shard]

I wouldn't mind a lower suspension set up, but that would probably kill me on my driveway.

[desert glen]

Forklifts are pretty cool

[dense shard]

Interesting statement.

Though if I think about it. I have to agree.

[viral matrix]

@vital glen I think the matte black rims fit the car pretty well, that image is just so dark.

But it's my opinion ofc

[fossil imp]

[tropic silo]

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

[desert glen]

I can drive forklifts

[civic spoke]

Same.

[desert glen]

Reach trucks are fun

Especially when you forget that you’re on it then you end up crushing something

[viral matrix]

Forklifts are fun

We have a 4.5ton Linde at work

[tropic silo]

What the fuck

[desert glen]

The best part about our reach truck is that the fork height readout doesent actually work, so if you’re not paying attention you’re gonna crush the pallet

[fossil imp]

forklifts can be nasty friend of mine got caught up in 1, n made a perfect circle on the ground from his own blood

we gave him 9/10 for artistic impression

he recovered fine lol

[desert glen]

It still amazes me how much even a small lift can weigh

[tropic silo]

#lifts-and-reach

[desert glen]

Please add

[stoic ledge]

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

[jagged coyote]

@desert glen well fo the load you put on them, you've gotta have a big counterweight so not really a surprise

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

[rotund matrix]

[stoic ledge]

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

[indigo coral]

[stoic ledge]

[viral matrix]

#cars is like 10% cars and 90% emotes

[stoic ledge]

[tropic silo]

Basically

It's just a place to chill out for people that like cars. And want to speak with other car people mainly

[rotund matrix]

or send pog emotes

[dense shard]

whelp... back to editing some driving videos.

[civic spoke]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1uuHfRhvaR/

[indigo coral]

wow

[stoic ledge]

[tropic silo]

[indigo coral]

[stoic ledge]

[wheat hatch]

[tropic silo]

[wheat hatch]

[fossil imp]

[stoic ledge]

[wheat hatch]

[tropic silo]

[wheat hatch]

[tropic silo]

[teal bough]

[fathom socket]

this place

isn't the place

to spam emotes

kthx ily

[fossil imp]

it isn't spam its routine/requirement for here, new rule proposed by us all kthxbai

[rotund matrix]

us car lads have real car convos here

and then in the downtimes, we send pog emotes

[tropic silo]

I agree with both statements and/or rules

[wheat hatch]

Exactly

Gotta keep the place alive on lazy days with pog emotes

[indigo coral]

^

[civic spoke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCI2KYhC8vk

[wheat hatch]

So the only thing one will see are those humongous kidney grills + headlights?
Nervous sweating

[fossil imp]

that'll be an extra 10K pls sir

or whatever amount they decide to slap on it

[rotund matrix]

ah yes the batman bmw

[indigo coral]

Lol

[fossil imp]

lul

[wheat hatch]

lulul

[fathom socket]

vanta black is so black it absorbs light

that car will get so hot

the ac will probably die XD

[civic spoke]

Any color absorbs light. Vantablack just absorbs heaps more of it.

The stuff that they spray on as a paint absorbs 99% of the light.

True Vantablack can't be sprayed on like that. And absorbs even more light. 99.96%

[wheat hatch]

Sad thing is that vantablack is most likely still brighter than my future

[tropic silo]

Saaaaame

[wheat hatch]

[tropic silo]

[fossil imp]

uwu

[tropic silo]

UwU indeed'

[fossil imp]

pulls ahegao face

[tropic silo]

[wheat hatch]

[desert glen]

The smell of diesel makes me happy

[wheat hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/f6jason16-vin-diesel-fast-and-furious-gif-8355432

[stoic ledge]

The smell of LPG makes me happy

It litteraly smells like 💩

[tropic silo]

You just like to smell what you smell like yourself MK :)

[jagged coyote]

i prefer the smell of a farm hard cider, but that's not cars related

[civic spoke]

https://www.humblebundle.com/store/dirt-rally

Technically car related.

Free game.

[stoic ledge]

Lol just checkes 3 consecutive servers, all 3 posting that link xD

[fathom socket]

I'm planning on getting this

[stoic ledge]

I hope not as a daily driver xD

[fathom socket]

I know there is a risk that maybe the car has a few mechanical issues

Daily driver

A little old Fiat Spider

This new one is just a Miata underneath so what's the point

[rotund matrix]

ngl the new ones are cool lookin, I'd drive it

[fathom socket]

It does look cool.

The rear especially

[stoic ledge]

But it has a 1.4 Turbo engine so I like it more than the N/A engines

[fathom socket]

what kind of car should i get?

[stoic ledge]

Prius

[fathom socket]

am poor

[stoic ledge]

1994 Celica

[fathom socket]

Too expensive

[stoic ledge]

1999 Corolla

[fathom socket]

am not selling my kidneys. Something more cheaper

[quiet elk]

Are you even old enough to drive? xd

[fathom socket]

no

[rotund matrix]

bruv

[stoic ledge]

Lol if a 1999 Corolla is to expensive... Maybe you shouldn't drive a car at all

[fathom socket]

are kid electric cars good?

[stoic ledge]

No

EV bad

[fathom socket]

1 hour drive for me to get this car. Only thing is, I just found it off the internet and the post is 9 years old...

[quiet elk]

i feel like he's just shitposting at this point

[fathom socket]

am being serious

[quiet elk]

On a seriousl note: what car should I get as my first car? Getting one in less than a year, need it to go from home to work, that's all

[rotund matrix]

a civic or corolla

or equivalent

[fathom socket]

Ok thanks for the tips

[quiet elk]

What should I look for in KMs and such? I don't know what is too high and things like that

[fathom socket]

Thirty minute drive gets me this

[quiet elk]

complete car newbie in terms of specs and whatnot :p

[fathom socket]

do I go for this

It's really close where I live

Very close

[stoic ledge]

More miles/kms == more experience == better car

[fathom socket]

12750

$

[stoic ledge]

No jk, but car advice also varies from region xD

AE86

[fathom socket]

65000 kms

Manual

[quiet elk]

I can get a Civic from 04 with 200km for 2800 euro

[rotund matrix]

that AE86 is HOT

[quiet elk]

how does it sound?

[fathom socket]

What

[rotund matrix]

not bad tbh, sounds right for mileage

[stoic ledge]

Damn 200km

That's like new

120 miles

[rotund matrix]

lmfao

[quiet elk]

there's this 2001 civic with 320k for 1750 but

[rotund matrix]

approx 124k miles on that 2004 civic

[quiet elk]

the fuck is that thing in the middle? no way it's the shifter?

[rotund matrix]

that shifter

[fathom socket]

Bit rusty underneath that 86

[rotund matrix]

hell yeah bro

[quiet elk]

fuck me xD

[stoic ledge]

The shiftee, yes

[quiet elk]

never seen one like that before

same way on the 2004 and i bet all civics?

[fathom socket]

@quiet elk Reminds me alot of something else not fit for discussion here

[quiet elk]

true

[rotund matrix]

[fathom socket]

Japan on crack and beer, and you end up with a central console shift

D word shift

Censored etc

[rotund matrix]

dick shift moment

[fathom socket]

Yes

[rotund matrix]

lmfao

[quiet elk]

damn

oh nvm my damn

i read Merc A 140 from 2000 with 192km

then i opened the thumbnail

[fathom socket]

Lul

[rotund matrix]

bruh moment

[quiet elk]

https://i.imgur.com/n7JmMpV.png this is how it is on the website btw

[rotund matrix]

lmfao

[quiet elk]

fucking clickbait up in this shit

[fathom socket]

@quiet elk Reminds you a lot doesn't it....

[quiet elk]

On another note, Corolla from 2001, 1750 euro, 128km