cars

[fossil imp]

nou

[civic spoke]

My car is already blowing itself up all the time. By design.

[bitter compass]

lemme guess

opel?

[civic spoke]

Engines in general. Made to blow up once every fourth stroke.

[stoic ledge]

> all

[civic spoke]

We have a saying here in Sweden.

Köp en Opel, bli belåten. (Buy an Open, be content)
Se naturen, genom plåten. (See nature, through the sheet)

[stoic ledge]

[tropic silo]

[civic spoke]

Opels used to have a reputition to be rust buckets. At least before.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah, true

But newer ones don't rust anymore 🙃

Corsa B was probably the last real rustbucket

[tropic silo]

Mine will never rust

Made of aluminium foil

[stoic ledge]

[tropic silo]

Its fast and nimble and big ans small and light

[stoic ledge]

[rotund matrix]

get to borrow my mom's 2013 C250 whilst my rogue is in the shop, epic

god damn this thing has so much more pull than my rogue lmfao

[stoic ledge]

I've driven my uncles V60 T5 yesterday... I feel ya xD 250hp vs my 83hp is a huge difference xD

Litteraly power *3

[tight cypress]

ärär

c0rsa

[stoic ledge]

Wot

[tight cypress]

w0t m8

[fossil imp]

mmm oldschool T5 yes

front tyre muncher

[rotund matrix]

my rogue has approx 170hp and my mom's car has like... 201hp?

so yeah i def feel it, esp comparing the sizes of the vehicles

[fossil imp]

dam your mom has more power than u, that must sting a bit

[tight cypress]

less weight,less power

or more power,more weight

imma choose light

[fossil imp]

i would choose lighter n more power 😄

[tight cypress]

mostly people only care about econemy nowdays

average hp amount is kinda like 150-300hp

[fossil imp]

idaf about economy lol

[stoic ledge]

@fossil imp my uncle has the new T5, not the good old 5 cyl T5

[fossil imp]

yea i know but all T5s are nice

[stoic ledge]

Truez but the 5 cyl is nicer, even if it's just for the sound of it xD

[wheat hatch]

The old 5 cylinder from Volvo

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-hell-flames-arms-up-gif-8179721

[jagged coyote]

every un-even numbers of cyl engine are weird imo

the crankshaft is hella weird

[tight cypress]

why are old volvos so boring to drive

[tropic silo]

[fossil imp]

[tight cypress]

mmm

[stoic ledge]

Germany: cars are bad for the environment
Me: sticks green sticker to the windscreen
Germany: omg your car is eco-friendly

[tight cypress]

lol

Germany

is making hella lot of cars

does complain about car killin envoirment

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[jagged coyote]

mfw mine is a class 2

idk if the stickers mean the same thing across europe tho

it's the french Crit'Air thing

oh but it's like, the best for a diesel car

[tight cypress]

dont know mine

wasnt smaller number worse

if so,i think mine is class 1

[jagged coyote]

well class 1 is for hybrids and gas cars, but also euro 5&6 for petrol

sorry for our non-francophone friends

[stoic ledge]

In Germany, the higher the number the better

[indigo coral]

Mines probably that last grey one

[stoic ledge]

Falcon you'd get Euro 2 probably (dark gray)

Light gray == before 1997

[indigo coral]

Oh it's only based on year?

[stoic ledge]

Apparently

[indigo coral]

That's stupid

[vital glen]

I'm pretty sure a 1996 Honda Civic gets better milage than 90% of the cars today @stoic ledge

[indigo coral]

^

My mpg is better than that of a new Escalade

[stoic ledge]

Probably

[indigo coral]

Or my mom's explorer

[stoic ledge]

But that doesn't matter

[indigo coral]

?????

Asinine rating system

[stoic ledge]

https://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1by1jeb71lc_800.jpg
This is extremely bad for the environment

[vital glen]

VW likes to gas monkeys

[stoic ledge]

https://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1cyjmrbkbmb_800.jpg
V12 TDI is eco friendly

(according to the German system)

[indigo coral]

lol what

[tropic silo]

What about mine?

[stoic ledge]

@tropic silo gas == green

Those 2 above are diesel

[tropic silo]

Yeet

[stoic ledge]

https://www.umwelt-plakette.de/fileadmin/umwelt-plakette.de/Klassifizierung/DE_Umwelt-Plakette_Klassifizierung.png

The German system

[tight cypress]

kk imma say

my car is 3

if the german system

[vital glen]

My cars are 0, but I didn't gas monkeys like VW

I didn't cheat the emissions

[tight cypress]

you should see my car at the winter

you cant see anything

[stoic ledge]

LPG, CNG, Hydrogen, EV and hybrids are always class 4 in Germany

So, @vital glen , put a LPG/propane tank in your H1 and it's a super eco-friendly tree-hugging vehicle (:

[vital glen]

@stoic ledge that's what most European armies do

make everything run on diesel or propane

No gas

[stoic ledge]

Our army uses 2.0 TDI Amarok's

[vital glen]

Russia uses mostly Cummins shit

And Ukraine uses Chinese copy Cummins

[stoic ledge]

Chinese copy

[vital glen]

Cummins won't sell to Ukraine Because if they do, Russians will stop buying Cummins @stoic ledge

[stoic ledge]

LOL

Didn't know that

Nice

[tight cypress]

Kaas cars best

change my mind

[bleak parrot]

Hey i need other opinions regarding C205 Mercedes vs C205 AMG, is it worth the price difference, ill buy it in Germany used + 20% tax on import to Serbia

I mean it will ve a 3.0 diesel

I dont like gas stuff

Thats crap

[indigo coral]

huh, i vastly prefer gas engines

[tight cypress]

dont get an mercedes

so u get some good respect

diesel is cheap

[wheat hatch]

@stoic ledge I wanna hear the conversation that took place when they decided to put a V12 diesel engine in a SUV
They must have been on some really good drugs to come to such a conclusion

@bleak parrot Please explain a bit more, I'm a bit confused 😅

[fossil imp]

diesel is being outlawed here

which is a good thing 😉

and any petrol cars in the future

2040 or sommat

which is not good 😉

[stoic ledge]

@wheat hatch It probably was something like this

1. We need to increase the sales of the Q7
2. Hmmm, how about a more affordable version
3. Nah, won't have large margins
4. It's an SUV.. so a offroad oriented version
5. Wtf is wrong with you, going offroad with a SUV, tssk
6. Ok, how about a sports version
7. Great idea, let's give it the engine of a tractor

Something like this probably 🙃

[wheat hatch]

LOL

[dense shard]

Oh yes... let's add to that joke.

[wheat hatch]

We need ze bigger engine for ze SUV...
What shall we poot there?
AHA! What about ze V12 diesel motor!
HANS! DAS IST EIN GENIALES IDE!
And the rest is history.

[dense shard]

"The Audi version is too expensive"

"Let's put the V12 in the VW Toerag"

oh no wait... the V10 was the diesel.

W12 was petrol

[stoic ledge]

"And to make it blend in... We paint it bright blue"

[wheat hatch]

@stoic ledge How much does a V12 Q7 cost in 🇳🇱

[indigo coral]

LFA best v10

😄

[stoic ledge]

You can't get a V12 Q7 anymore new

[dense shard]

Probably because Bentley finally managed to get exclusive rights to that W12.

[tight cypress]

bought some intake parts to monkey

not new kaas doh

[dense shard]

kaas?

I'm not getting this meme.

[wheat hatch]

@stoic ledge But like, second hand

[stoic ledge]

Lol there are litteraly 0 V12 TDI Q7's for sale atm

[indigo coral]

hey people here

[wheat hatch]

Oh

[indigo coral]

C8 corvette

[wheat hatch]

R.I.P

[indigo coral]

or Supra

[wheat hatch]

C8 of course

Wait, which Supra?

[dense shard]

I don't think anyone bought the V12 TDI in the US.

[indigo coral]

the new one

[wheat hatch]

C8

[indigo coral]

theyre almost the same price which is hilarious

[stoic ledge]

Also, the CO2-emissions tax decreases over the years so it's not much morw than neighbouring countries

Maybe a bit if it's an original 🇳🇱 car

[indigo coral]

oh hey mk

[stoic ledge]

Hey

[wheat hatch]

Yeah, it's stupid expensive

[indigo coral]

whats the price disparity between the C8 'vette and the new Supra over in 🇳🇱

[dense shard]

They both start at around 50k from what I understand.

[indigo coral]

over in netherlands

[dense shard]

In the US at any rate.

[indigo coral]

im asking

over here theyre between 50 and 60k

which is absurd for the BM- I mean supra, and pretty damn reasonable for a corvette

with 500hp and an actually nice interior

[dense shard]

Is it absurd for the Supra?

[vital glen]

@dense shard the c8 is 59,995 after delivery

[wheat hatch]

And on top of that, I know that the old Supra might have cost as much as the new one costs today
At least the power output the MK4 Supra had when it came out was quite good back then

[dense shard]

Remember the Gen 4 was 50k starting... in 90s dollars.

[stoic ledge]

C8 pricing has not been confirmed, but according to my calculations it's €80k (Supra) vs €150k (C8)

[dense shard]

The new one is a bargain.

[indigo coral]

it might be, but why would you get it over the new corvette?

[dense shard]

yes

I don't like the C8. It's the tapioca of mid engine cars in terms of styling.

[vital glen]

I like the design

[dense shard]

It looks duller than the first run of MacLaren cars.

[vital glen]

It's Corvette

[indigo coral]

I'd much rather take the vette

over the supra

[wheat hatch]

Same

[dense shard]

I'll take the Supra.

[wheat hatch]

More power, better price, mid engine

[indigo coral]

if the supra was 35-40k it'd be a different story, but at 60k the Vette takes it 100%

[dense shard]

The mid engine isn't really a selling point to me.

And that's 60k for the base base model of the C8.

60k gets you the full monty in the Supra.

[indigo coral]

yes but the base base model is not half bad

got heated seats and shit from what I understand, and still has 500hp

and the interior is actually nice in the new vette

instead of the shitty plastic in the C7

[dense shard]

it looks nice in the pictures

Let's wait for people to sit inside before we declare this new GM "high quality interior"

[indigo coral]

never gonna beat Merc or someone but it certainly looks a lot better than c7

[dense shard]

Forget beating anyone.

Will it look and feel like 60k is the question.

[wheat hatch]

It probably will

[indigo coral]

i mean the Model S and X were over 100k with less than perfect interiors and they sell great

[wheat hatch]

Much more than the current Supra

[indigo coral]

the Model 3 feels every bit of 60k though, its a lot better

[stoic ledge]

C8: 60k USD == €54.149
Incl VAT €72.072
CO2-tax: €66.325
Total: €138.397 == 153K USD

[indigo coral]

ok so the supra is probably a better deal in tax-land

[vital glen]

@indigo coral model 3 feels like 30k

[indigo coral]

no it doesn't

[wheat hatch]

lmao

[indigo coral]

lol

[wheat hatch]

[indigo coral]

its really quite nice inside

[dense shard]

It looks like 30k.

[wheat hatch]

R.I.P @stoic ledge

[tight cypress]

@dense shard u dont get kaas meme?

[wheat hatch]

[indigo coral]

its minimalist, but good quality

[tight cypress]

ask @stoic ledge for th ememe

[dense shard]

No, I don't get Kaas.

[stoic ledge]

🧀

[tight cypress]

Kaas

[vital glen]

model s and x also feel like 30k

[dense shard]

Define good quality.

[indigo coral]

the S and X aren't as nice as the 3

[tight cypress]

https://www.tuontitukku.fi/tuote/kaasutin-22mm-sopii-50-150cc-monkijoihi-monkijoihin-ja-crossipyoriin-pz22/9977001000487/

Kaas

[vital glen]

@indigo coral model 3 feels like 30k

[indigo coral]

Tesla made the Model 3 better than S or X

[dense shard]

Cause panel gaps and misaligned panels do not make for a 20k car these days.

[indigo coral]

No, its nicer than 30k

lol

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

Can't nwait for the Polestar 2

[tight cypress]

cant wait for global warming to hit car indrusty

[dense shard]

No seriously. Having seen Model 3s up close. They look like the car Elon promised. 35k.

[vital glen]

@stoic ledge can't wait for another car I can't affy

[dense shard]

They don't look like 60k cars.

[stoic ledge]

Same Tesla pricing, same Tesla performance, better dealers/stores, better design both inside and out

[indigo coral]

I like the minimalism personally, but I seem to be alone in that

[vital glen]

@stoic ledge yes

[indigo coral]

We aint getting the polestar stuff are we?

[dense shard]

Yes, but Volvo isn't known for reliability.

[indigo coral]

neither is tesla

lol

[dense shard]

Durable sure, but you better be willing to put the love in.

[indigo coral]

tesla is dead last in reliability

[dense shard]

bullshit

No way they're worse than Chrysler.

[stoic ledge]

[indigo coral]

in terms of overall issues they are

in terms of BIG issues theyre not

[dense shard]

Worse than the self lobotomizing Alfas?

[indigo coral]

people get bitchy about the infotainment hitching for half a second

and make reports about it

which destroys their rating

[dense shard]

Because they shouldn't hitch up in 2019.

Phones haven't been doing that in years.

[indigo coral]

Literally every car has it hitch up at times

[wheat hatch]

Wait, Volvo isn't known for reliability?

[indigo coral]

even phones do occasionally

no theyre not

not anymore

[wheat hatch]

Hol up

[indigo coral]

theyre not that bad but not great

[stoic ledge]

Never really heard any issues about Volvo's here

[tight cypress]

dont never say volvo reliable

[indigo coral]

usually electrical stuff

[tight cypress]

any car is unreliable

if it has been hitted in the rev limiter some times

[wheat hatch]

Looks at old T5 5-cylinder

[indigo coral]

ive never hit my rev limiter

[wheat hatch]

You are made for the rev limiter

[stoic ledge]

Too bad Volvo only makes 1.5 3-cyl and 2.0 4-cyl engines now

[wheat hatch]

Ye

[dense shard]

Tesla hasn't been rated by JD Power yet.

[wheat hatch]

R.I.P fun engines

[dense shard]

But Fiat is on that list, and is by far the worst.

[stoic ledge]

T5 is still fast tho

[indigo coral]

"fast"

[wheat hatch]

[dense shard]

Volvo is just above em.

[indigo coral]

(also the Model 3 looks nicer on the exterior than the Polestar 2)

[dense shard]

...

Yeah, nah

[stoic ledge]

In tax country they are

[dense shard]

I'll take Volvo styling over Tesla supercharged suppository look.

[indigo coral]

looks fine middle, front and back are weird

[dense shard]

And the Model 3 looks like a Model S going through a growth spurt.

[indigo coral]

?

[stoic ledge]

Model 3 rear is fine, front is just odd

[indigo coral]

The X looks like a fat model S

[dense shard]

Rear is squished, front is alright, but middle is just weirdly proportioned.

[vital glen]

Would rather support my chinese overlords than elon musk @stoic ledge

[stoic ledge]

Yes

Geely

[indigo coral]

meh

i like it but I also have wrong opinions

[stoic ledge]

You're American, you can't help it falcon

Jk 😛

[indigo coral]

(stinger is still better looking than the Model 3 tho)

[stoic ledge]

Yes, no doubt

[vital glen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpfAY3LqmXk
daddy doug

[indigo coral]

yea i just watched that

[stoic ledge]

@wheat hatch V60

Yeah just watched it too

[indigo coral]

I hope they make a Telluride/Palisade with like 450hp

[vital glen]

Wouldn't buy it

[dense shard]

They won't.

[stoic ledge]

Amazing it's < 50k USD

[dense shard]

Because Kia/Hyundai understand the US market.

They want crossovers.

[indigo coral]

yeah and they made the Stinger xD

[stoic ledge]

If it was priced like that around here... Everybody would buy one xD

[indigo coral]

the stinger is amazing

[dense shard]

Last I heard the Stinger may not have a second generation.

And it lacks a manual.

[indigo coral]

might not but im still going to buy one used

[vital glen]

that's the fate

[indigo coral]

dont care at all

auto is fine for me

considering its a daily and I don't know how to drive stick

[dense shard]

Learn

[vital glen]

Did you buy a manual corolla? @dense shard

[dense shard]

And you can daily a stick.

Yes, I do.

[indigo coral]

don't have a car to learn

and it would be absolute hell driving stick here

[wheat hatch]

@stoic ledge Love the new Volvos 😄

[dense shard]

Actually threw myself into the fire a few days ago.

[indigo coral]

too many stoplights on hills and stuff

[dense shard]

The Corolla is totally fine in gridlock.

Up hill, down hill, stop and go... bring it.

[vital glen]

You are not a significant part of the market, no one cares about your purchasing power @dense shard

[stoic ledge]

@wheat hatch yeah it drives awesome Wheelspin in 2nd

[dense shard]

I'm one of the 3.0%

[vital glen]

let the cvt

take over

[dense shard]

I've done my part to save the manuals.

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

[indigo coral]

[wheat hatch]

OOF

[stoic ledge]

[dense shard]

At least the stinger is nice.

[wheat hatch]

[indigo coral]

gonna be my next car

[stoic ledge]

Too bad it's €100k

[dense shard]

But they had their best chance at defeating BMW... but alas... no manual.

[wheat hatch]

Not sure what I think of the Stringer

[indigo coral]

at the rate its depreciating it won't even be that long till I can hopefully maybe afford one

[wheat hatch]

I rather take the F80 M3

[vital glen]

@dense shard yeah, but you buy a bmw Because it says BMW

[indigo coral]

I l o v e

lol

even now, its like 35k for a sub 5k mile GT2 model

[dense shard]

I like using turn signals though.

[wheat hatch]

[dense shard]

So I'm not sure BMW would even let me buy one of their cars.

[stoic ledge]

My brother has proven you can use indicators in a BMW

He special ordered it with that option fitted

Expensive but worth it

[dense shard]

I'm not paying an extra 5k for a turn signal.

[indigo coral]

lol

[stoic ledge]

lol

[indigo coral]

I saw someone bitching about hwo they bought a stinger and didn' realise how big it was

[dense shard]

Or paying a subscription for carplay.

[indigo coral]

they thought it cmopared to a BMW M2 ors omething

[dense shard]

that's on them

[indigo coral]

it was hilarious

[stoic ledge]

CarPlay subscription is a joke

[indigo coral]

like wtf did you expect? it's a 4 door sedan, not a coupe

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

BMW: Apple CarPlay, no Android Auto
Also BMW: creates app to unlock the car with Android

[dense shard]

BMW would probably charge for android auto.

[wheat hatch]

They probably looked at the Mercedes line-up

And saw all the Coupe titles on their SUV's and such

[stoic ledge]

SUV Coupes are the worst btw ^^

[indigo coral]

mostly

[wheat hatch]

Ya

[vital glen]

Two SUVs r epic

[indigo coral]

the cayenne coupe is okay

the GLC and stuff is nasty though

[stoic ledge]

Cayenne Coupe == Cayenne == Urus == Q7 == Q8 == VW Touareg

[vital glen]

I saw a model 3 be hyper retarded

[wheat hatch]

The only Cayenne I want is the pepper that makes me go

[indigo coral]

yeah i know mk

[dense shard]

Define hyper... was it the driver or the car?

[vital glen]

It jumped a curb

[indigo coral]

LOL

nice

[dense shard]

... That doesn't actually answer my question somehow.

I'm sure the driver blamed it on autopilot.

[indigo coral]

lmfao

probably

[wheat hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/car-trick-dog-car-car-jump-blast-off-dumb-and-dumber-gif-3572779

[dense shard]

"Officer, I'm not driving drunk... le gasp, my model 3's autopilot let me drive drunk, the horror"

[stoic ledge]

LOL South-Korea just banned all diesel Audi A6/A7's, VW Touareg and Porsche Cayennes from being sold

[vital glen]

The driver went through a corner at blazing speeds and kept accelaratong through the corner

Hopped the curb and slammed on the brakes

[indigo coral]

wow

idiot

[stoic ledge]

https://www.autojunk.nl/2019/08/bmw-x3m-competition

LOL, a BMW X3M Competition... for $173515 USD

[wheat hatch]

@stoic ledge Them big kidneys tho

[stoic ledge]

USA: STARTING MSRP $76,900

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

The Evolution of BMW kidneys:

[vital glen]

@indigo coral if it wasn't for esc and all the stuff the driver would have pulled for mustang and spun out

and hit a crowd

[indigo coral]

yeah people do stupid shit in any car

[dense shard]

It's funny how the champion of compression ignition was actually the villain all this time.

[wheat hatch]

[indigo coral]

[stoic ledge]

LOL the X3 M Competition fully optioned in the USA is $83,400... so you can buy two X3 M Competitions and still have $6715 left

[vital glen]

I agree

@stoic ledge stop being poor

[stoic ledge]

Being poor... this house is for sale for €1,500,000 in 🇳🇱

Prices are getting insane here

That's why we are "poor"

xD

Also: look at that Honda Jazz/Fit

[indigo coral]

a 500 sq/ft apartment here is 17 million dollars

in downtwon

[stoic ledge]

[vital glen]

Doug's house costs that much @stoic ledge

[dense shard]

He bought it using profits from his signed photo sales.

[vital glen]

That's a quirk

[stoic ledge]

Lol his signed pics are

Idk what Doug's house costed

[dense shard]

Doug is an interesting man.

[stoic ledge]

Yes he is

[vital glen]

He would call himself quirky

[dense shard]

I can see his mom talking about her son.

"Here's why my Dougie is the most interesting son every born."

[vital glen]

Lmao

[stoic ledge]

Would watch

[vital glen]

Quirk #1 he wears 3 t shirts

[dense shard]

Quirk #2 he demands I cut the crusts off his sandwiches

[proven gull]

I've had a chat with some people about the new Supra and I mentioned the new 370Z

And how Nissan didn't mess up the design and engine + parts in their car

But mostly design

The first 350Z concept was made in 2001 and the new 370Z came out in 2019 and that's 18 years apart and still they look similar

Now the last JAZ80 Supra was made in 2002 and the new Supra is supposed to be released by 2020

That's also 18 years but

How do you fuck up so badly

[vital glen]

@proven gull the 370z is a meme

[proven gull]

How so?

It think it's a very cool car

It's a good face lift from the original

Even from the 2010 370z

But the Supra is just a different story

Toyota basically just asked BMW to make them a car

[vital glen]

370z hasn't changed since it has been released

No one is buying it

[proven gull]

However it's still a good looking car and has gone through face lifting

Not a complete overhaul

Toyota just basically did what Mitsubishi did to the eclipse

I don't think it disserves to hold the Supra name

It's not even a Toyota it's just a Z4

[vital glen]

@proven gull currently it's not in the cards for Toyota to make a sports car, not a good financial decision

They just spent so much money on it they just needed to get a return on something

so they contacted BMW

[proven gull]

They should of just further developed the 2JZ

[vital glen]

No, too much money

financially it makes complete sense to go with bmw

[proven gull]

I understand however I just feel like is not what us people wanted from the Supra

[vital glen]

Who cares what you wanted

honestly

Or what I wanted

[proven gull]

Good companies?

[vital glen]

No

[proven gull]

Then what's the point of making something that people don't want

[vital glen]

They don't care about the individual, they care about the majority

[proven gull]

It will be a waste of money

And that's what I mean

I've seen much more people against the new Supra than for it

[vital glen]

The people spending 50k on a Supra aren't young people

[proven gull]

I know

However with the launch of the new Supra the old ones prices will probably drop

[vital glen]

That's who are mostly outbursting

About it

but Toyota can't keep them in stock

people are spending 10, 20, 30 thousand dollars over sticker rn

[proven gull]

Why don't they do something like what Jaguar and Aaron Martin

[vital glen]

people want the new Toyota z4

[proven gull]

Aston and Jaguar made the classics again and sold for a huge ammout of money but people brought them

And this was pretty recent if I recall correctly

[vital glen]

Toyota mostly sells economy cars

with very low profit margins

They compensate by selling a shit ton

[proven gull]

Why wouldn't they just remake the old Supra how it is

I mean I'm sure people buy them

For the price that they came out

Originally

[vital glen]

It's been 20yrs since the Supra has been made

it would be a whole redesign

[proven gull]

The last A80 was made in 2002

Just make the original

[vital glen]

That's almost 20yrs

[proven gull]

Aston did that

Also Jaguar

They remade 60 year old cars

And they did well and this was quite recently

I remember seeing it somewhere

[vital glen]

Aston and Jaguars also didn't spend almost 20yra of R&D money

But I am not sure what you are talking about

[proven gull]

Basically Aston and Jaguar took blueprints of their classics don't remember the exact models and remade them in this year and sold them for a couple million

What I'm saying is that Toyota could do the same with the original Supra bit sell it for it's launch prince back in 1993

Well not original Supra

[vital glen]

I can only find some article about electric conversions

[proven gull]

JAZ80 I mean

I'm not sure where I saw it but it was somewhere

I remember reading about it

[dense shard]

Toyota won't be remaking anything

[proven gull]

I know

[dense shard]

They're not gonna waste storage space keeping shit around

[proven gull]

You serious think a fully new A80 wouldn't sell fast in 2019

Bone stock may I add

[vital glen]

If would need to be redesigned from the ground up

[dense shard]

I don't think Toyota was pretentious enough to leave a few chassis in white lying around

[proven gull]

However they probably still have blueprints and manual's

Of the original

Wait I keep on saying original

My bad

[vital glen]

From 2002-2019/2020 new shit about safety, economy, emissions, and whole bunch of regulations have come up

[proven gull]

A80

[vapid raptor]

Further developed a 25 year old engine? @vital glen is correct about emissions, regulations, etc

[dense shard]

I get that Toyota has the blue prints.

But my understanding of Aston Martin, Jaguar, and whoever else is that they literally have old VINs they never got around to producing thanks to strikes or shortages or whatever. And I'm assuming this is why they can offer original never sold [insert year of car they're selling here] whatevers. Also probably avoiding emissions and other regulations.

They're assembling New Old Stock (NOS) and selling it as new... which it technically is.

I honestly don't think Toyota has random bodies in white lying around like the British did. That would be the most unToyota thing Toyota could do... was not build something they planned to build.

That or there is some weird legal bs afoot.

[stoic ledge]

[dense shard]

Question is.

Is that "new" Aston Martin DBwhatever actually reliable, or does it overheat in the factory like the old ones did?

[vapid raptor]

Bottom line is that people need to give up on a new 2jz, and embrace the return of the Supra. I have a feeling that once the aftermarket community finishes getting a 1000hp people will be more accepting of the new car.

[dense shard]

Tuners are apparently receptive to the new engine.

It got the construction to take more power.

[vapid raptor]

The reviews I've seen are very positive

I wouldn't mind getting one, in a year or so after the "I gotta have the first batch!" craziness dies down

But then again, I just got my car last year, so I'm good to go

[dense shard]

Happily there is no mad rush for Corollas.

Then again there's not much of a rush for anything manual it seems.

I wonder how many years till the Miata is mostly automatic.

[stoic ledge]

Is that "new" Aston Martin DBwhatever actually reliable, or does it overheat in the factory like the old ones did?

New Astons are AMG powered, so should be fine there 🙃

[vapid raptor]

Manuals are nearly dead, unfortunately

[stoic ledge]

[loud lion]

Rip

[vapid raptor]

"Hello Darkness My Old Friend"

[dense shard]

I'm not talking about the actually new ones.

https://www.motor1.com/news/349421/aston-martin-goldfinger-db5-production/

It's not entirely clear if these are restorations, reproductions, or if they'll ever be street legal.

Ah... here we go... apparently the DB4 GT is track only.

[tropic silo]

[loud lion]

[stoic ledge]

Just got overtaken on zhe autobahn by a GT2 RS

[vapid raptor]

Last time I was driving on the Autobahn... Damn, it's been 25 years already!? Anyway, I was driving one of those military 'Lemon Lot Specials', an early 80's 944 and was nearly blown off the road by a Ferrari F40

Like I was standing still

[tropic silo]

@stoic ledge NO TEXTING AND DRIVING

I'll chase you and tell you it personally to your face if you do it again

[stoic ledge]

I was waiting for somebody at a train station, that's when I send my message (:

No texting and driving ofc

[tropic silo]

Oooh

Waiting on who 😏

[stoic ledge]

😏

Somebody to go to Gamescom with

[tropic silo]

Imaginary friends don't count.

[languid python]

overtaken by GT2 RS

damn

[fossil imp]

[wheat hatch]

[tropic silo]

[stoic ledge]

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

[tropic silo]

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

[vital glen]

[desert glen]

The only good picture i have of my car

Its aight

[night current]

Volvo 😃

[civic spoke]

Classic XC70

[crimson wraith]

Old/older Volvos... just....I love them.

[night current]

^

Same

[desert glen]

Its ugly as sin from the side tho

Front on looks pretty nice

[crimson wraith]

isnt there like a Chrome trim piece that makes it 100 times more pleasureable to look at from the side? 🤔

[desert glen]

I think its just the body lines imo

[crimson wraith]

nono! I saw it twice here in Germany! it looks more aggressive and has the XC whatever on it in Chrome!

[desert glen]

Hmm

I guess americans just get dumbed down versions of euros

We’re not sophisticated enough

[crimson wraith]

Copy paste. i would love to have some American styled cars over here.

[desert glen]

My cars kindof a junker right now. AC doesent work, my passenger CV is toast, driveshaft is missing

Driveshaft replacement is like 500-700 to get done

Leaks oil and coolant

[dense shard]

Driveshaft sounds fairly important. I'd definitely look into getting it replaced.

[fossil imp]

shaft missing? lol

i dont think it would go too far without a driveshaft bud 😄

[desert glen]

Its AWD, so my rear wheels don’t spin

Under engine power atleast

[fathom socket]

yall have any thoughts with the new acura ILX

it got a new 8 speed transmission

i think it looks pretty average

[tight cypress]

what is this

i see the mix of an toyota,nissan and hyundai or howevs its spelled

[stoic ledge]

It's basically a Honda

I think it's quite nice looking

But Acura/larger Honda's aren't sold here so we're not used to the design language, that's (for me) it doesn't look average

Interior still looks old tho

Iirc is the top screen not a touch screen and controller by a know under the lower, touch screen... And the top screen dusplays Android Auto etc... It's just strange

[fossil imp]

@desert glen oof, yknow u could wreck the rest of the transmission right, including the diff/gearbox if u keep driving it like that

[desert glen]

The car’s already fcked, I could really care less

[fossil imp]

lol fair enough

[desert glen]

I would love to have AWD, but it’d be more than the car is worth to get the ds put in and the diff fixed

[dense shard]

Actually saw the new ILX. Biggest issue is the interior.

Exterior... actually looks good. That and the RDX are cohesive.

Interior on the ILX though... last gen civic with last gen entertainment system. Acura has managed to sit through Honda's removal and reintroduction of a volume knob.

[civic spoke]

If you wanted to know what happens if you drive too fast in a school zone here (Sweden).

[stoic ledge]

Yikes

(2000 sek == 208 USD)

Still, why would you speed in a school zone 😛

[civic spoke]

People do that. And all the school zones here are 30 kmh. So going 51 kmh (32 mph) means that you can lose your license.

There are bunch of people who speed past the daycare just outside of our street.

[civic spoke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhDuEmGBfvs

[floral plaza]

Yeah school zones here in Sweden are horrendous (Especially in the cities because they are everywhere and are some times hard to spot)

[fathom socket]

https://youtu.be/g8gw8B939Eo

RS6 is back

I remember my parents owning the original rs6 us

But I'm still happy with my 450 thousand mile Hyundai Tucson 2005 lol

[wheat hatch]

Man you guys are going to love the RS6

I hope they fixed the aerodynamics a bit though

Previous gen made weird noises at high speed

So let's hope that is gone

[fathom socket]

Yeet

My parents own the 2003 one a long time ago I was sad they had to sell it even tho it never had issues :/

That was 15 years ago oh well

[tropic silo]

Why're there so many Swedes here?

[stoic ledge]

People wondering the same why there are so many Dutchies here 😛

[tropic silo]

There aren't that many Dutchies here

[stoic ledge]

You, me, JD, Stephanie, and I'm sure there was somebody else too

Schoolzones are 30km/h here too btw ^^ 😛

[wheat hatch]

Because we like LTT

🇸🇪

[tropic silo]

That's more people than i know lol

Also, Netherlands is way better than Sweden @wheat hatch

Don't believe me? I had 2 Swedes say they like The NL more than Sweden :P

[wheat hatch]

Well, good for you lol

[tropic silo]

[teal bough]

Lmao

[tropic silo]

I just saw a Lamborghini pass in my street. We're a pretty shitty neighbourhood, with high crimerates. And a Lamborghini drove down here.

[vital glen]

@tropic silo wow

amazing

[stoic ledge]

That Lambo was probably stolen, that's why it drove to your neighborhood

[tropic silo]

That could be massively true.

@stoic ledge https://www.instagram.com/p/B1jGfciod4QcXkvmCzJurGzDd1X1ZhxVSWNPdU0/?igshid=1abkl9fo249l9

[stoic ledge]

[vital glen]

@stoic ledgem hmmmmm

[magic arrow]

is the tellulride in any other market?

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1jIuNEAbmP/

[vital glen]

@magic arrow built specifically for the us market

[magic arrow]

ah

[stoic ledge]

I wish it was

The Telluride and Palisade are awesome cars

Lol €28k for a base Telluride.. 🇳🇱 be like "here, have a base VW Golf"

Litteraly, the cheapest Golf is €28.775

[winter oasis]

(new that is)

[stoic ledge]

Ofcourse, comparing new vs new 😛

[winter oasis]

bit expensive for a hatchback dont you think?

[stoic ledge]

Ofcourse

[indigo coral]

All cars are expensive in netherlands

[stoic ledge]

If we could get the Telluride for the same price bas the US, litteraly everybody would be driving one xD

[tropic silo]

We like to spend money

[stoic ledge]

[stoic ledge]

@magic arrow great video of the Telluride Imho the most car anybody could ever need

$46,860

[indigo coral]

Needs a bigger engine tho

[magic arrow]

thanks!

[stoic ledge]

3.8 V6 is plenty 😛

3.3 V6 TT would be nice xD

[indigo coral]

Only like 270hp

Should have at least 350

[vital glen]

@stoic ledge it says awd, but has locking center diff

[fathom socket]

https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/cuvkab/the_all_new_wrangler/

[vital glen]

Hmmmmmm

[stoic ledge]

[stoic ledge]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1164169890917433346

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)

My proposal to the politically correct Automobile Companies would lower the average price of a car to consumers by more than $3000, while at the same time making the cars substantially safer. Engines would run smoother. Very little impact on the environment! Foolish execut...

Retweets

16735

Likes

68098

Twitter

[tropic silo]

Nice?

Also

WTF?

Blocking the sole purpose of the website?

[manic linden]

What happened to twitter?

BRUH

wtf is going on with these sites man

[dense shard]

wait... what

"PC auto companies"

[tropic silo]

Waitwhat?

[dense shard]

That tweet posted above by MK.

[tropic silo]

is blind

[dense shard]

oh, okay. I've found context for that tweet.

https://www.autonews.com/regulation-safety/calif-deal-foolish-trump-tells-automakers

tl;dr: Automakers aren't interested in playing the white house regulation game, and are supporting preexisting pre-Trump standards and regulations for the future.

It probably totally 100% has nothing to do with anything about development cycles being locked into defined frameworks set up years prior. /s

Politics aside. I imagine a global emissions standard along with crash standards would greatly reduce development costs for automakers. Especially for multiple markets.

[tropic silo]

Trump's being weird. It feels like he think he knows everything about everything. But actually he doesn't lnow how to open a door

[dense shard]

It's super easy to just scream at automakers, but I'm beginning to think they're more like Intel in terms of product development than not.

Meaning they're thinking 5-6 generations forward and are actively developing a generation ahead if not more.

[tropic silo]

Mhm

Focusing too much on the future

[dense shard]

I wouldn't say too much on the future.

Unless that focus makes you lose sight on your competition.

ahem... intel

[tropic silo]

Yuuup

[dense shard]

Mind you Ford's lack of drive for AI and electric cars hasn't hurt em, and GM's forward looking on AI and electric hasn't helped em.

[tropic silo]

I would think. If the USA went to EU type of cars. With slight difference (better fueltank) it would greatly improve the future generations. Right?

[dense shard]

Don't count on it.

The tech Euro cars use is identical to what the US has.

Size and scale of the stuff being used is different, but the tech is identical.

Turbo, direct injection, various weird weight savings that are dubious.

But I don't see Europe moving forward to embrace new materials or construction methods to actually advance cars.

[tropic silo]

But a 3.6LV6 being baseline in the US
And a 1.4L i4 being baseline in the EU
Like that's what i meant

[dense shard]

I'd say the problem there is, "Will Americans accept smaller cars if they're put on the market."

Cause the baseline in the US is vastly bigger than in Europe.

[tropic silo]

Big o' fuel slurping engine with all teh powaaa VS a fuel sipping engine with meh power.

[dense shard]

I imagine most American cars could downsize dramatically without losing out on usability.

I think I understand what you're getting at.

dunno tbh

One argument is that a smaller engine running balls out nonstop will use more gas than a bigger engine running more relaxed.

[tropic silo]

Mhm

Me doing 190kmh. Engine at 5k rpm.

114mph or something it was

[dense shard]

screw it.

[tropic silo]

[dense shard]

Gonna go for a drive.

[tropic silo]

Have fun

Don't crash

[dense shard]

that was fun

[vital glen]

@dense shard join chat

[tropic silo]

It's pretty warm today. So imma chill in my car and do nothing xD

[stoic ledge]

I took the car out this morning, wasn't a pleasure driving tho

Many cyclist, main road closed, narrow detour, small streets, much traffic.. xD

[tropic silo]

Sounds like going on a rampage and hitting every single cyclist was a thing that was close to happening

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

[tropic silo]

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

[fossil imp]

[stoic ledge]

[night current]

Nice!

[chilly dune]

Ok I have a problem with our radio
We have a Citroën c3 it cant find any channels we replaced the radio to a cheap 40$ one i think the problem is the antenna but how can a antenna broke

Well its my dads car

But any ideas whats wrong

Now we play radio through the phone but it would be nice if i got it to work

I can find like 2 channels

[indigo coral]

Ripp

Sounds like the antenna ja

[stoic ledge]

~~ It's a Citroen ~~

Maybe a kink in the wire? It's strange, yes

[tropic silo]

Did you plug in the antenna?

When i got my car the antenna wasn't properly plugged in.

[jagged coyote]

^this

either it's not plugged it, of the adapter is shiet, or the radio receiver is shiet

[tropic silo]

The radio unit can be a defective one too

Also, might want to check whether youre on FM or AM.

[chilly dune]

its on fm i have the raido connected yeah its cheap but not defective it was brand new

it was same problem with the rginal radio it did not find that much channels i thing the anttena is broken somehow

[jagged coyote]

oh yeah, that's an antenna problem, maybe it's frayed and the coax is shorting to ground?

[tropic silo]

Or maybe the coax isn't properly inserted or whatever in the plug?

[tropic silo]

CVT for the win?

[stoic ledge]

Yes

Yes

Yes

Thanks Discord for posting my message three times, while sending it just once

[tropic silo]

Discord being discord

[wheat hatch]

[tropic silo]

[civic spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/hMgJTqA.gifv

[stoic ledge]

[bitter compass]

minis kinda look nice

luckily no inspiration from bmw

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

BMWs inspiration:

That's why they are super expensive

[wheat hatch]

[rotund matrix]

ngl Minis are pretty sweet

and I'd whip one around as a toy car

but idk if I'd want one as my main

[wheat hatch]

Seems like a neat daily driver

https://tenor.com/view/crash-fail-flop-gif-5000256

[rotund matrix]

as a commuter car it's prolly fun

also I love that classic gif

[wheat hatch]

Same

[stoic ledge]

It's too small for me to fit properly (yes, I've tried), and it's just expensive af

[wheat hatch]

How tall are you lol

[rotund matrix]

interesting

i know they're pricy for what they are :P

[wheat hatch]

Oh right, MK is a dutchie

🇳🇱

[rotund matrix]

tbh if i had to choose a small daily car I'd def go for a Civic sport hatchback prolly

[wheat hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/come-with-me-civic-tow-gif-5331671

[wheat hatch]

Design is a bit too much for me 😛

[rotund matrix]

understandable

it is a bit over-the-top

[wheat hatch]

Yah

[rotund matrix]

but I personally quite like it 😛

[wheat hatch]

I would take an old civic tho

Fun cars

[stoic ledge]

I'm 1m93 but I can't fit properly

I've tried in BMW Welt

(8ft 4")

[wheat hatch]

DAYUM

Tall boi

[rotund matrix]

8ft 4in
wtf

no fuckin way

[stoic ledge]

Lol no

6ft 4

Srry

xD

[rotund matrix]

ok

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

Damn

[rotund matrix]

there ya go

[stoic ledge]

[wheat hatch]

It's confirmed

MK

[rotund matrix]

6'4" makes sense why mini is a bit tight for ya

[wheat hatch]

Is an absolute unit

[rotund matrix]

^

ngl looks clean in blue as well

but I kinda like that flat color paint on the gray style cars have been going for recently

seen it on some of the civics n tundras

[stoic ledge]

My Corsa isn't really that much bigger on the outside, but it's much more spacious in the inside

New Civic is rare here 😛

I don't really mind the look of it, but I also don't love it

[wheat hatch]

By the way, if anyone got like a boat load of money
Go grab this Chiron before someone else does
https://www.blocket.se/vastmanland/Bugatti_Chiron_Sport___Omgaende_leverans_86881274.htm?ca=22&w=3&last=1

[stoic ledge]

The trade-in value for my Corsa was to low, so I cancelled my order

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

[rotund matrix]

so y'all may or may not remember me talking about a popping/clunking noise in my car a few weeks ago here

[stoic ledge]

Yeah, your car went Rogue

[wheat hatch]

Pepperidge farm remembers

And so do I

[stoic ledge]

^

[rotund matrix]

it's in the shop rn and the people wanted to quote entire new front struts and back suspension setup, as well as both CV joints just shy of $2k quoted.
that's a fuck_no.png for a car that was $4500

[stoic ledge]

[rotund matrix]

I'm gonna tell em "yo just replace my CV joints cause I know those are fucked and then if there's still an issue I'll worry later kthx"

bc they acting like I have money to blow. wild.

[wheat hatch]

[rotund matrix]

I know the car ain't perfect, and it isn't going to be. it's a 7 year old car with just under 150k on the clock.

[stoic ledge]

Don't you have a money tree in your backyard? You should get one, it's nice

[rotund matrix]

[wheat hatch]

Yeah

Just buy the seeds off the dark web

[rotund matrix]

i think the CV joint(s) replacement will fix the popping noise so

hopefully thats a couple hundred bucks for that and the blinker fix they did, as well as an oil change n alignment

[wheat hatch]

Blinker fluids?

[stoic ledge]

Blinker fluids are important

[rotund matrix]

nah, apparently the rogue has a weird setup on the blinker system

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

Most people forget it, but is vital to the operation of your vehicle

[rotund matrix]

the double-speed blinking was just from dying bulbs. they still worked but were blinking dim-off instead of dim-bright

[stoic ledge]

[rotund matrix]

so thank goodness they did that and replaced em ez and it was fixed

[wheat hatch]

Especially in a bimmer

[rotund matrix]

so I'll have proper blinkers again, since I use mine like a real person

[stoic ledge]

Fast blinking == broken bulb, that's normal

[wheat hatch]

Bimmers tend to use an entire canister of blinker fluid in one blink

[rotund matrix]

I agree, but normally fast blinking == broken bulb
mine was fast blinking for a... bulb that was still working

[stoic ledge]

Lol nice

[wheat hatch]

Which is why most of them don't blink anymore
Because the owners forgot to refill

[stoic ledge]

But are it those US amber always on Indicators?

[rotund matrix]

i love and hate the driving here in baton rouge this summer

love that people actually act like they have somewhere to be and fucking GO

speeding in places is v normal

[wheat hatch]

Rwa, what was your car now again?

[rotund matrix]

but... people don't use their damn blinkers almost ever

[stoic ledge]

Nissan Rogue

[wheat hatch]

Ty ty

[rotund matrix]

uhh a 2012 Nissan Rogue S (w/ special package)

146k on the clock

[stoic ledge]

That's why I'm joking about it going Rogue

[rotund matrix]

^

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

Blinking is difficult

[rotund matrix]

here she is

[stoic ledge]

It's like moving a stalk up and down

[wheat hatch]

Yeah, just drive it until it breaks

[rotund matrix]

yep

it needs to last me 2-3 years n then I'll buy my own car :P

[stoic ledge]

Buy an

[rotund matrix]

if it still works then, I'll give it to my brother who will be a junior or senior in high school for him to use

[wheat hatch]

My grandfather did the mistake of repairing his car so many times, that the repair cost could've gotten him a new car b now

[rotund matrix]

@stoic ledge give me that in american terms

yeah that's why I'm not paying the $2k this mans wants for repairs

I'm gonna fix what's needed and let the rest chill that's non-critical

[wheat hatch]

Even though I told him not to

[stoic ledge]

Latest Opel's were sold as Buicks over there xD (Regal, Cascade, Encore etc)

[rotund matrix]

iirc i have an oil leak too but I'll work on getting that fixed later

ah the buicks

the new ones seem actually sweet ngl

[stoic ledge]

If oil still leaks, it's certain there is still oil inside

Easy

[rotund matrix]

the Cascada

kinda fresh, ngl

[stoic ledge]

And yeah all new Buicks are nice because they are rebadged Opel's xD

Regal is nice too

[rotund matrix]

tru

WAGON

the Regal TourX

[stoic ledge]

We also have the Wagon as a normal wagon, not lifted

[rotund matrix]

ngl when I go car shopping in 2-3 years if buicks are still sweet I'll def check em out

I've always had a soft spot for hondas tho

just cause my grandma always had one n it was hella good
we had a '99 accord for YEARS with almost zero issues

[stoic ledge]

We can't get anything bigger than a Civic here these days

Accord is extinct xD

[rotund matrix]

my grandma's accord just... doesn't exist on the internet like anywhere

twas a 1999 Accord EX-L in Midnight Blue w/ the "Lapis Lazuli Blue" leather interior

[stoic ledge]

Nice

[rotund matrix]

still can't find a single picture of one on the internet

[stoic ledge]

https://www.hondaaccordforum.com/forum/attachments/new-member-area-5/23506d1501373980-my-01-accord-ex-accord1-1.jpg
This?

[rotund matrix]

ye, but does that one have the blue leather interior

[stoic ledge]

Tru

[rotund matrix]

iirc hers had the rims too

it was a top-of-the-line model; fully loaded EX-L

had a sunroof, power windows, and a Cassette AND CD player

[stoic ledge]

CD

My grandparents drive... A Dacia

[rotund matrix]

my grandma... doesn't drive anymore kek

but she had a 2016 Accord Sport as her last car

[stoic ledge]

Nice

"Sport" why xD

[rotund matrix]

it had paddle shifters

[stoic ledge]

Interior looks complicated for an elderly person

Lol ok xD

My grandpa got his first automatic car this year

He's 86

Actually the first time he ever drove an auto in his entire life

[rotund matrix]

damn

found a few old pics of her car

ngl was a ton of fun to drive

loved the dash setup

[stoic ledge]

Nice Car

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indeed indeed

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Never seen one irl

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really? accords are everywhere here

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Largest Honda car is the Civic here now

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tbh one day i should record some random traffic around here so you can be like "wtf i have never seen like 90% of these irl"

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Lol xD

The discontinued the Accord here in 2013 or something

And even then it sold barely

(also our Accord was the Acura TLX iirc)