> not having a manual
#cars
stoic ledge
indigo coral
i'd rather have a cvt over a slushbox 4speed
vital glen
you don't
rotund matrix
CVTs are boring to floor lmao
you hit 4....5....6k rpm and then it just sits there
lmfao
no satisfying shifts
indigo coral
same because my gears are SO LONG
rotund matrix
F
indigo coral
2nd gear does 60+
stoic ledge
same because i have no power
vital glen
Who needs more than 1 speed
rotund matrix
ah yes, the 1 speed. a CVT
indigo coral
cvt infinite speed innit?
rotund matrix
or would the CVT be infinite-speed? yeah
vital glen
Nvm, most monster trucks use an overbuilt powerglide
velvet mirage
Depends how it’s controlled prob not really infinite
rotund matrix
"infinite"
velvet mirage
Just like 100 steps
rotund matrix
ye
rotund matrix
yep
vital glen
Yeah, infinte hell
rotund matrix
kek
it drives fine I don't complain
other than the clunks that i need to get checked out when turning under throttle. sounds like CV joints being fucky
vital glen
Nissan has the same reliability as chrysler product @rotund matrix
stoic ledge
CVTs which can drive in the same speed forwards or backwards 
vital glen
Until you sideswipe an Audi a8
rotund matrix
yeah ok lmfao
stoic ledge
it's an audi, so /care
rotund matrix
plus it was a 2012 with 142k miles already on it so
not like i expect it to be pristine
vital glen
No u
velvet mirage
My car got written off the other day a BMW X5 hit it up the back when I was sitting at the lights 😳
rotund matrix
dam🅱
velvet mirage
The guy was looking at his kid in the back seat..
stoic ledge
Yikes
vital glen
@velvet mirage what did you drive
velvet mirage
2013 c220 coupe
vital glen
poor person German car
stoic ledge
Lol poor person xD
velvet mirage
It’s okay got a 2019 c class coupe now
vital glen
Yeah, poor after maintaining it @stoic ledge
rotund matrix
that yours?
velvet mirage
Yeh 😜
rotund matrix
sweeeeet
stoic ledge
@vital glen 😂
vital glen
And what do I daily?
That's the question
I have to ask myself everyday
Why do I do this myself
stoic ledge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/375461451403624471/604747443203997697/IMG_20190727_155155.jpg
Please tape a TomTom to your screen like this gentleman did (:
vital glen
Yes
vital glen
Genius move
rotund matrix
IQ: 1000 
stoic ledge
Probably ordered it without sat nav
vital glen
My iq is higher
2007 s550 with 179k miles
stoic ledge
Was the cheapest trim
vital glen
Still maintaining it
velvet mirage
Got this as a project car and it has CarPlay I just use that for google maps the built in satnav takes you stupid routes
rotund matrix
sweet
velvet mirage
It’s not staying Brown 😂
vital glen
@torpid dune brown
velvet mirage
Putting in a 302 first anyway so will be some time until it’s done
vital glen
302 Windsor?
velvet mirage
Yeh @vital glen but with a Toyota 5 speed gearbox will put in a 8.8 rear end too the atlas would explode
vital glen
Why
velvet mirage
Why what why a Toyota gearbox
That’s just because it’s smaller so will fit in the tunnel and you can just buy a bell housing of the shelf for that
velvet mirage
Prob will put ally heads on the engine tho it’s just so heavy 😂
torpid dune
4th gen Camaro
velvet mirage
😂
vital glen
Put Magnesium heads on it
stoic ledge
graceful compass
whatre some classic things that people who've bought used cars forget to check before they buy?
graceful compass
lol
velvet mirage
@graceful compass the whole underside
vital glen
certified pre-owned means nothing
graceful compass
should i bring my car jack and give a peek under?
stoic ledge
Tyres, oil, rust, previous damage, lights, service history, battery age, .....
Everything
graceful compass
should i ask for recipts of service or is there a log book or.....
so i should bring a multi metre to test the mattery?
battery*
velvet mirage
@graceful compass well I mean how many miles has it done the more it’s done the more I would want to have a wiggle of the wheels on a jack and see if the joints all need replacing and stuff
vital glen
Get a trusted mechanic to look over used car purchases
velvet mirage
Yeh getting your mechanic to have a look is always a good idea
stoic ledge
On a 1k car? xD
vital glen
Well if you don't have one, make some friends
stoic ledge
(assuming it's the previously mentioned Eclipse)
graceful compass
my dad isnt a mechanic but he is a helicopter mechanic and hes very handy with engines/cars
and hes bought used cars most of his life so i think it should be fine just getting him to do a ounce over
@rotund matrix @stoic ledge @velvet mirage
rotund matrix
sure
anyone who knows anything is always nice to do a look over on something like that
graceful compass
aight
it sounds like whoever owned this kept it in really good condition and cared for it so im hopeful that it'll last a while even though its got 225,000kmeters on her
stoic ledge
Take him with you, he'll also spot mechanical flaws in cars
graceful compass
definitly a dest drive lol
civic spoke
Feels good when you drive 32 km's. And only lose 10 km's of estimated range. 
civic spoke
civic spoke
Had driven the car 326 km's, with 575 with the last picture.
I still can't imagine that I might get 900 km's from a single tank.
stoic ledge
stoic ledge
240 miles is my max range... On LPG tho with a net capacity of 32.6l xD
civic spoke
My fuel light goes off when I have maybe 1/8th left in the tank.
stoic ledge
8.6 US GAL apparently
indigo coral
My tank is 17.2 us gal
stoic ledge
LPG is the most inaccurate system, so I just rely on the trip computer
LPG + gas combined my tanks are 20.5 US GAL (:
graceful compass
oof
fathom socket
@velvet mirage geeoooffff.
wheat hatch
indigo coral
stoic ledge
indigo coral
wheat hatch
stoic ledge
tropic silo
They should rename this channel to #pog or #pepe
fossil imp
fossil imp
pog is pepe
fossil imp
heh so immature n yet funny
indigo coral
stoic ledge
civic spoke
OH DANG. It's the S55 Swapped E30 M3. https://youtu.be/-X3Wrj5Fmag?t=83
tropic silo
civic spoke
The only issue with that car is the lack of power steering.
tropic silo
Who needs power steering anyways?
stoic ledge
It's nice while driving slow but at higher speed not really that necessary (depending on the car)
tropic silo
Only real men drive without power steering
viral matrix
has 235's at front with power steering
Still quite hard to turn with one hand on warm day
fossil imp
indigo coral
stoic ledge
tropic silo
fossil imp
😄
stoic ledge
tropic silo
vapid raptor
My 2`er met a cousin. 😂
fathom socket
@tropic silo we were so brave in the 80s, we didn't go to gym, we just went for a drive. That would break up a sweat. Which Top Gear presenter said that in Series 21
Pop quiz
quick fog
I can answer this one
fossil imp
glass nebula
stoic ledge
stoic ledge
fathom socket
@quick fog go ahead answer
the spotlight is all yours for this question
Unless someone stole it
@fossil imp wasnt the fezza a 458 Speciale?
fossil imp
is it? i cant tell from the interior
stoic ledge
White themed Discord 
fathom socket
Deal with it
tropic silo
rotund matrix
re:earlier that GT3RS is H O T
fossil imp
yes vauxhall
although back in the day we had opels too 😉
like in the 70s/80s i think
idk
fossil imp
google will tell u
tropic silo
But they're also called something else than Opel in the NL
fossil imp
lol
sister companies basically
vauxhall corsa is one of the UK's best-selling cars
just saying 😉
tropic silo
Meh, opel = 💩
When it was ~45°C here the majority of cars that broke down were opels
Noooo, shitboxes
😄
Except the Meriva. They're true troopers
I drove across the entire country during the heatwave so i saw everything almost
rotund matrix
i've seen i think two Opels in my life. USA gang
tropic silo
Lol
Rare cars
My car did a good job of staying under 100°C
Unlike my parents car which wouldn't start because of the sun boiling up the onboard computer
Audi A2 from 2005
tropic silo
Shuuuuuush
It was ~45°C in Den Haag tho. And saw alot of broken opels by the road
New cars only tho. Which seems really weird to me
stoic ledge
Hehe I spotted 2 Volvo's, an Audi and a Renault broken down in that weather
Also all fairly new (max 2 years)
So according to my statistics, 50% of broken down cars were Volvo's (:
tropic silo
But i drove from Assen to Den haag via Bataviastad. So i came across way more cars 
stoic ledge
> not using "The Hague" in an English sentence 😛
tropic silo
Don't care
stoic ledge
I was going across Germany 🙃
tropic silo
Both work :)
stoic ledge
So I came across way more cars
stoic ledge
Aprox. 7 hours
tropic silo
Took the autobahn?
stoic ledge
Yes, but also mountain roads
stoic ledge
fathom socket
khttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/262356939583782913/609048708222287905/FB_IMG_1565272643655.jpg
rotund matrix
those new silverados are actually meh
like I'm not a truck guy so these are just 
grim robin
^^
stoic ledge
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--9kQ4ELbT--/c_fill,fl_progressive,g_center,h_900,q_80,w_1600/mrpgaxj3ynkt0wdwk7cn.jpg
I think it looks wierd from this angle
tropic silo
Looks like a Ferrari lol
tropic silo
Aaaahhhhh!!!!
civic spoke
That doesn't look crazy bad?
@tropic silo Looks like it's starting to get a lip from pad wear, though.
stoic ledge
Yeah that's quite normal
tropic silo
I know about the rust
And yea. A lip is starting to for
Form*
Less than 1 millimeter tho
So not that worried yet
Touching discs 😄
indigo coral
I have a lip, and warping 😂
Need to save up for new ones
(yes, I know they're curbed. It wasn't me.)
tropic silo
May i ask how you managed to curbe them that high?
rotund matrix
(yes, I know they're curbed. It wasn't me.)
gonna assume they don't know the answer
tropic silo
How high are the curbs in US 😂
rotund matrix
yeah that's beyond me
tropic silo
No idea either
rotund matrix
I'm glad whoever had my car before me only fucked up the paint on mine and not the rims
indigo coral
Looked into refinishing but it's hella not worth it
rotund matrix
my car has so many weird paint things that idk how they did it
indigo coral
May as well just get new, 18in rims
tropic silo
My paint and rims are both fine. Unless you look really carefully at some places than you noticed some weird patches
indigo coral
My paint is fine, need new bumpers though.
viral matrix
Anyone else got black rims
tropic silo
I also have black rims 
But they're steelies
I've gray/silver aluminium and black steelies
indigo coral
Mine are silver xd
tropic silo
^-^
vital glen
what is that blob? @tropic silo
tropic silo
...
vital glen
I don't know what that car is
viral matrix
A2 audi
tropic silo
An Audi A2
viral matrix
it seems
vital glen
any econobox gets over 100mph
tropic silo
For a 1.4 4cylinder its pretty good tho @vital glen
vital glen
@tropic silo I don't understand anything less than 5.7L
tropic silo
Gps
viral matrix
Downhill
tropic silo
Straight -_-
viral matrix
If it ain't a turbo 1.4
tropic silo
NA
viral matrix
No chance
tropic silo
75hp. No idea how much torque
vital glen
like 5nm
viral matrix
viral matrix
225km/h for me, haven't tested it though, national speed limit is 120km/h 😢
rotund matrix
my cruise control maxes at like 94ish mph iirc
tropic silo
His trans is made out of legos
rotund matrix
don't ask why i know
viral matrix
Me neither
rotund matrix
ok on god I miss my grandma's accord sport. This thing was hot
now I've just got my rogue and it's not as fun :/
tropic silo
@viral matrix where you from?
viral matrix
Finland
viral matrix
Wish I could
crimson wraith
Living in Germany. a Blessing. although there is a discussion if we she should do a speed limit at 130 km/h .
tight cypress
@viral matrix yes i have black rims
viral matrix
viral matrix
Torille saatana
viral matrix
🙄
vital glen
but do you got ctis
stoic ledge
Also about zhe german Autobahn: many sections are speed limited, and in Germany they like to put up a different speed limit ever few 100 meter is my experience xD
tropic silo
Going from Leer to Meppen theres no speedlimit
Around ~40km of autobahn. (I think it was 40km)
stoic ledge
Tru
There are more
But many are restricted 
And according to german fashion, it's 120 - 130 -100 - 80 -130 -120 - 130 -80
Just to make your life more convenient
stoic ledge
Lolz xD
Classic
Maybe the same in Germany, idk
Haven't got a ticket yet xD
Because I'm a driver who always respects the speedlimit 👼
indigo coral
liar^
stoic ledge
fossil imp
rotund matrix
stoic ledge
indigo coral
stoic ledge
rotund matrix
stoic ledge
Lol xD True
Although 95% of my driving is in Belgium xD
True, but on my daily commute I know the possible places where the cops can hide xD
All those apps/satnavs which show speed cams are illegal in Germany (atleast when enabled)
Lolz xD Mine is 37km
I have none 😛
I like the neutral smell xD
indigo coral
That sucks that they're illegal
Google maps has warned me quite a few times about upcoming government fundraisers
stoic ledge
Only in some countries
Yet /care, I usually don't turn it off
Chance of getting caught = 0
civic spoke
Just keep the speed limit. 
fossil imp
^ lol!
civic spoke
I'm one of those stupid people who rarely goes over the limit.
indigo coral
I don't speed around town, bit tend to get a bit quick on highway/interstate
(like 5-10 over. Not that bad)
unreal terrace
stoic ledge
🤔
fossil imp
stoic ledge
viral matrix
stoic ledge
What is it 👀
fathom socket
01 miata
stoic ledge
Ah that's what I thought, wasn't sure 😛
stoic ledge
If people walk by the car, they can probably see what it is 😛
fossil imp
unless its got like 100 miles on the clock
stoic ledge
107k miles ^^
stoic ledge
Idk what engine is in it
fossil imp
1.6ltr prolly
fathom socket
he's probably just trying to recoup the loss he took replacing the convertible top
fossil imp
ouch
fossil imp
lol
fathom socket
i've seen it 100 times on bmw z's nissan z's chrysler covertibles
they spend all this money replacing the top
something else breaks and they sell it immediately
fossil imp
kek
fathom socket
you can blow up the picture and see the rubber on the door
totally fucked
rubber on the convertible
brand new
bet the tires are old too
gotta be careful with those
miatas dont wear tires at all so i've seen friends buy them with 9 year old tires that look decent
huge hazard
stoic ledge
Most '01-02 Miatas here go for 3.5-6k USD depending on the trim/maintenance etc
fathom socket
yeah but that's a manual his market for the car is less than 1% of buyers immediately
idk im just a armchair assessor with 1 picture. 
stoic ledge
Lol, well > having an auto miata
It's a good thing he has a manual
I bet most enthousiasts want it with a manual
fathom socket
i mean at the end of the day it's an 18 year old manual car
there is only so much inherent value
it's not rare
test drive it 
Still small and easy to drive around corners lol
stoic ledge
It's actually too small for me 😛
fathom socket
Haha
Well i do have the money for it I saved it up for many years
But
Not too sure if they sell parts for these cars
oh yeah they make parts for that
test drive it
check the date codes on the tires
fiddle with everything
check the fluids but it sounds like he had them all changed
so that might not tell you much
Would love to but when you got work in your way lol
stoic ledge
Don't forget the blinker fluid ^^
stoic ledge
It's always a gamble tbh
fathom socket
My 1993 Toyota pickup has 750k and my familys Hyundai Tucson 2005 350k lol
stoic ledge
Service records might be some sort of proof, but even then they can trash it with max rpm @ cold engine etc
There is never a guarantee
fathom socket
Yea
fathom socket
yeah but it's a light car with low horse power it puts a lot less stress on all the components
make sure the miata owner isn't selling it because they're 
It's a small Diesel engine wonder why it's unkillable lol
they you gotta replace all the suspension
because you know he fucked up the struts on the driver side
fathom socket
yeah now toyota selling rebranded bmw 
Too gear tried to kill it by a building fall
stoic ledge
Too Gear also proved the Corolla is the fasted car in the world
So indestructible and fastest
Win-win
fathom socket
Haha
fossil imp
@fathom socket 1.5K deal?
i take it off your hands right now
well not really but worth a go right
hes gone again, not selling it to me bud
this guy
im out, no deal
civic spoke
As long as you have a Corolla that's able to change colors.
tropic silo
Oof
stoic ledge
I'm finished for today: 6 PM 🙃
tropic silo
I haven't done anything useful today yet :)
stoic ledge
stoic ledge
tropic silo
Feels good
tropic silo
Fully automated driving would be nice
fathom socket
go look at renault, tesla and rinspeed for that one
stoic ledge
fossil imp
stoic ledge
fathom socket
Turns out the car was being sold to another guy
Odd
You know what's sad
It has a turbo in it haha
fathom socket
xd
fathom socket
Just realized BMW made engines for McLaren F1 and the new Supra
That's something special
McLaren F1 has a v12 BMW engine
smoky gate
This is my brothers car how much more American can it get
tropic silo
Turbo supercharged?
smoky gate
No it’s a vortech
It’s a supercharger
Oh shit I feel stupid
Now I know what you mean
smoky gate
It’s a supercharger
tropic silo
Ontop of the engine yea
vital glen
centripetal supercharger
smoky gate
And centrifugal force pushes the air outward from the impeller and into the engine
Then that’s my Jeep in the background
tropic silo
I never knew supercharges came like that tbh
smoky gate
Me too but it wasn’t my choice
tropic silo
Only knew screws and other type. Idk name tbh
vital glen
smoky gate
@tropic silo I didn’t either until 2 months ago
vital glen
roots and twin screw
tropic silo
You learn something new everyday
smoky gate
Or you could just blow into the intake lmao
vital glen
you know where roots superchargers come from?
smoky gate
Their roots
vital glen
diesels
tropic silo
Oh sheit
vital glen
2 stroke diesels
smoky gate
Don’t surprise me
tropic silo
What are roots tho?
vital glen
smoky gate
I love Detroit diesels
smoky gate
Nice, Smokey, and loud.
tropic silo
I want a turbo or supercharger on my engine 😄
tropic silo
Audi
smoky gate
Ah
tropic silo
A2
smoky gate
Turbo it
tropic silo
Lol
vital glen
I got myself a Detroit diesel in my almost chrysler suv
tropic silo
But it would be a DIY.
smoky gate
Yeah turbo
tropic silo
Since no kits exists
smoky gate
Probably not
vital glen
It's easier to throw a super charger on than a turbo charger
tropic silo
And i kinda really need my car
smoky gate
@vital glen I want to put one in my Jeep
tropic silo
Turbochargering sounds more fun inho
vital glen
Time to start drilling oil pans
tropic silo
Wow
vital glen
turbo chargers need an oil line
smoky gate
Oh yeah
vital glen
for lubrication
smoky gate
I forgot
tropic silo
Lube
smoky gate
Mmm
tropic silo
Don't turbos also need oil?
smoky gate
@tropic silo I have my Jeep then my brother gave me his older ram 1500
tropic silo
Its 4:22 sorry
vital glen
jesus christ
vital glen
east coast gang
smoky gate
Ayy
tropic silo
EU gang
vital glen
but I can't read my own sentences
smoky gate
Gang gang
tropic silo
is alone
smoky gate
Donald plump’s here for you
tropic silo
vital glen
In my fleet I got 1 supercharger, but it is cali-restricted
tropic silo
Cali restricted?
vital glen
there was an ordinance in order for forced induction to be street legal in california
it needed to be restricted in some way
tropic silo
Oh boi
vital glen
What country do you reside in?
tropic silo
Netherlands?
vital glen
Lot's of laws saying what you can't do
tropic silo
I do know you can't paint your entire car and then drive off.
You need to check it again than and change alot of paper work. (Leaving a small square of the original colour is fine, then you don't have to do that)
smoky gate
Oof
smoky gate
Lol
indigo coral
lol rip
very few laws in my state/county
about car mods/appearances
also no inspection :D
magic arrow
for those that don't care about the pet portion, i made a small quick look!
should i do this on all cars from now on?
tropic silo
BUT PETS!
indigo coral
@magic arrow thoughts on the latest RX?
stoic ledge
Really nice shots!
@indigo coral Check the full review xD
https://youtu.be/q509OESu2TM
fair bronze
c o l o n i s e d
tropic silo
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
stoic ledge
I was tagged
stoic ledge
ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE
fossil imp
stoic ledge
stoic ledge
tropic silo
rotund matrix
rotund matrix
got the car washed yesterday :) (scratches n stuff are from previous owner)
stoic ledge
You could say the driver went rogue 😏
Those are some odd scratches tbh
Bottom left corner of the bumper ok, but on the front (underneath the grill) and the rear door is strange
indigo coral
Like my curbed wheels - how TF did previous owner curb them in the middle
stoic ledge
I have 2 small scuffs underneath/next to the passenger side fog light... I don't even know if you can see it in the picture
Previous owner touched a wall/fence/whatever turning up the driveway
I actually never see it unless I'm washing the car xD
fathom socket
Yeah, I see them
stoic ledge
fossil imp
mystic turtle
interesting that it is colder up the hood than below
indigo coral
nice just saw an M850i
stoic ledge
White > Yellow > Orange > Red
warm sparrow
My car has a lot of scratches too but I never wash it so i don't really see it lol
Oh and tbh I don't give a duck
wheat hatch
mystic turtle
Right @civic spoke
stoic ledge
warm sparrow
stoic ledge
fossil imp
civic spoke
The worst part is that you can't really put the fire out.
tropic silo
1 time use BBQ mode
I was a little scared yesterday
I was at a party. And uhm,people started drifting in the garden.
I, while being drunk, did the same. At some point it smelt like something was burning, either rubber, the clutchplates or the handbrake. But i was scared as all hell i damaged my car xD
fossil imp
yuh electrical fires are nasty
civic spoke
It's not even just them being electrical. It's the fact that it's lithium burning.
Can't put that shit out, even if you tried.
indigo coral
have there been any model 3 explosions/fires?
Model s is a first generation ev so it's bound to have issues like a huge portion of them ya know exploding
But the 3 is a gen2 ev and it seems to be far more reliable and safe
stoic ledge
https://insideevs.com/news/360439/video-tesla-crash-fire-dui-arrest/amp/
Not as often as the Model S tho xD
civic spoke
There are more old Model S' on the road.
stoic ledge
^
stoic ledge
stoic ledge
> implying the Model 3 is designed properly
magic arrow
PANEL GAP
stoic ledge
rotund matrix
warm sparrow
lol I don't even know why we do that
What's the problem with model 3s pannel gaps ?
indigo coral
95% of the cars aren't even bad in that regard
And tech-wise they're designed incredibly, maybe they need to work on paint/interior fitment and stuff, but the strong suit is the technology and electronics
vital glen
@indigo coral no, all of it is a beta product
shadow cedar
why
stoic ledge
fossil imp
stoic ledge
tropic silo
@shadow cedar Because weebs + cars + alcohol = that situation
stoic ledge
And since they're dutchies probably other stuff too
tropic silo
civic spoke
Leroy the Savage is quite the savage.
tropic silo
Damn
civic spoke
They had over 300 hp lost due to a bad clutch.
They did 1,280 hp with the slipping clutch.
stoic ledge
That's not how that works
fossil imp
stoic ledge
stoic ledge
€0.269/liter
fossil imp
what
rotund matrix
that's like... $1.14/gal if my math is right
god damn
cheapest we have here is $2.04 rn iirc
fossil imp
€1.38/ltr in the UK for regular unleaded
or $1.55/ltr
i get shell ultimate thou (99 ron) much more lel
rotund matrix
ah damn
highest we normally have around here is 97
and ofc i have a generic car so it gets 87 :P
or 89 or whatever bottom tier is
87 93 97 i think?
stoic ledge
RON vs MON
Also it's LPG, not regular gas or anything
Gas is like €1.45/liter in Belgium
fossil imp
liquid petroleum gas
rotund matrix
yeah, like propane
fossil imp
@rotund matrix yuh, our reg unleaded is 97, 87 isnt a thing i dont think 😃
rotund matrix
wtf damn
fossil imp
the brits are thirsty
rotund matrix
all cars here run 87 unless you have a nicer car that requires octane 9X or higher
in which usually your only option is 97
fossil imp
yea we get 99 for that option
rotund matrix
we don't have 99 anywhere that I've seen lol
fossil imp
some places have 101/102
rotund matrix
then we also have some 97s afaik
most stations have just 87 89 93 or 87 93 97 tho iirc
don't really pay attention since I just use 87 :P
fossil imp
dam
fossil imp
heh
viral matrix
rotund matrix
nice color
viral matrix
Thanks😄
stoic ledge
vital glen
@stoic ledge doesn't matter race fuel when you kick out 87hp and 5lb/ft
fathom socket
rotund matrix
i saw that a few days ago
consumer cars aren't even out yet and someone has already crashed a C8
civic spoke
There are words that it was a pre-production car.
Meaning that it would get smashed regardless.
fossil imp
stoic ledge
@vital glen
> using lb/ft
And on LPG, it's 83hp/110Nm. On regular gas 86hp/115Nm. With a special LPG tune, I can get it up to 100hp/130Nm
🙃
^^ yeah I saw the crashed C8...
Linus dropped it 
vital glen
@stoic ledge oh wow, getting into the triple digits
stoic ledge
I know right
fair bronze
Impressive
vital glen
@stoic ledge on the other hand
You could be saying your car makes 62joules/second
over the the 60jps line
fair bronze
I recently drove the outgoing Corsa with the 1.0 turbo engine, not bad at all
Shame that they calculated a ridiculous price for private lease
tropic silo
fair bronze
I was meant for my mother
fossil imp
oh lol
fair bronze
I'd rather buy something used
stoic ledge
Corsa E 1.0T is actually a really nice engine for the car
stoic ledge
Yup, plenty of torque but smooth power delivery, imho great 6sp manual: a really pleasant drivetrain if you ask me
fair bronze
Couldn't agree more
fair bronze
The only thing I didn't like about the car was the blower motor being extremely loud
stoic ledge
Blower for the AC?
fair bronze
Yes
stoic ledge
It's fine on 1st/2nd setting, but 3/4 are quite loud yes
fair bronze
You have the previous model though
stoic ledge
Manual AC has the same blower
stoic ledge
Ah, in that case idk 😛
fair bronze
Such luxury!
stoic ledge
fair bronze
But I still don't get why the price per month was so high
Should be around €280 - 290 per month, but the first offer was for €360
fossil imp
indigo coral
For a Corsa? LOL
fair bronze
Yeppo
stoic ledge
Lolz
fair bronze
They didn't give any reason for it
stoic ledge
I think i've seen them cheaper tho
stoic ledge
Opel Corsa 5 door 120 Years Edition
60 months - 10k km/year
€269/month at Opel
stoic ledge
Could be, but €269 is the price then no?
fair bronze
Should be
stoic ledge
1.0 Turbo Start/Stop 66kW (90pk)
Navi 4.0 IntelliLink with Apple CarPlay™ support
Bluetooth telefoon integration
Digital radio (DAB+)
Electric Climate Control
fair bronze
Especially since it's an outgoing model, they'd want to get rid of it asap
fair bronze
It's a well equipped car
indigo coral
Could lease an RX 350 brand new for less than the 360€ Corsa 😂
fair bronze
But that is just for the car itself
stoic ledge
Lease here includes road tax, maintenance and insurance ^^
fair bronze
Everything except fuel
fair bronze
That's why pretty much no one buys a brand new car here anymore
stoic ledge
Well litteraly 50% of the new cars sold in 🇳🇱 are company cars
The other 50% are:
- old people buying cross-overs
- private leasing A/B-segment cars
fair bronze
Pretty much
stoic ledge
Especially on A-segment cars it's ofteb cheaper to lease than to buy
fair bronze
Thanks, government!
stoic ledge
B-segments meh, not that much difference
C-segment is just expensive
Dutch government 🎊
That's why I have a car on LPG 😅
stoic ledge
True, more expensive than gas but less than diesel
Government: Lets give people tax credit on eco- friendly things
Also government: lets tax the eco-friendly fuel called LPG more than reguler gas
😅
fair bronze
The system is completely broken
stoic ledge
Still it's €55/month vs €39/month for the regular gas version... With the current €0.269/liter in Belgium it's a premium I'd love to pay xD
fair bronze
lmao
stoic ledge
If I drive more than 2000km/year, I save money xD
fair bronze
Yeah definitely worth it
fair bronze
👀
fair bronze
How did you pay so little?
stoic ledge
🇧🇪
fair bronze
Oh you meant NL
stoic ledge
0.54-0.70 is 🇳🇱 around here
fair bronze
Yeah
stoic ledge
But I'm almost every day in 🇧🇪
indigo coral
🇺🇸 has cheap gas
stoic ledge
I know, but not as cheap as €0.269/liter xD
fair bronze
Freedom juice
stoic ledge
That's like $1.13 USD/gallon xD
indigo coral
Yeah but that's lpg isn't it?
indigo coral
Lol my owners manual says premium only
I of course ignore that
And put in the cheap swill
indigo coral
Yeah it's stupid
fair bronze
Grandma has places to go
stoic ledge
Although I do use premium in my 83hp Corsa 
Regular has 10% ethanol in it in Belgium
fair bronze
Ethanol should be fine if you drive a lot
Don't know if the Corsa can take it though
stoic ledge
I barely use gas 🙃
fair bronze
True
stoic ledge
It can but it sits in my tank for many months
stoic ledge
So I rather pay a few cents per liter more for premium
It's not like I'm going to miss the €1 I spend extra on 5000km
stoic ledge
Last time I filled it up (partially) with gas was 3000km ago... Still have half of it left 🙃
fair bronze
oof
stoic ledge
I added 15 liters 😂