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This is ridiculous
i want a bmw z4 with the 3.0L 6
manual transmission
almost bought 1 with 100k miles for 7500

Oh nice!
I've seen a couple of those for a similar price, I was really interested in getting them.
But now, I have my eyes on a super clean FC... :>
Same!
Looking for the ones with the N54 engine in them.
For dat juicy single-turbo life

What's better than 1 turbo?
||2 turbo's||

A phat V8
https://www.autoblog.nl/image-gallery?file=0_Crashes/Tesla_Model-3/
I'm always amazed how something like this can happen...
- Driver not paying attention?
- Active safety assist didn't do anything?
- Combination of both?
I'm guessing driver on the phone and trusted the "autopilot" too much
And I'm pretty sure whoever was driving didn't make it judging by the damage
He did make it, yet severely injured (article in Dutch, but Google Translate is your friend)
https://www.autoblog.nl/nieuws/nederlander-in-model-3-zwaargewond-bij-crash-met-vrachtauto-128177
Is the dude made out of steel? Damn
Christ.
Reminds me of another accident from the same country. I think it was.
Oh, it was Belgium, the one I thought of.
Couple of weeks ago there was a similar crash in Belgium
We actually knew the guy
I'm thinking of something a few years ago
He died 
Ah
This one was 2 weeks ago
Also crashed into a truck with his Peugeot 508
He didn't make it
Marking this with a spoiler. Because of how gnarly the accident was. ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKNQG6pSYig||
08/13/2014, E40 Ghent - Bruges [exit Aalter]. The 25 year old driver was in coma after fracturing her 2 upper cervical vertebrae . She remained in a coma for...
The driver survived.
Ah yes, I remember that one
Drools
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@stoic ledge Well with autopilot, people start getting lazy and over confident ๐
I mean, some people even take a nap and such
I hate that it's called Autopilot.
It's fancy cruise control.
Fair enough.
But yeah, autonomous mode make people lazy (and for some reason they expect it to be flawless).
And shouldn't be used anywhere you shouldn't use normal cruise control.

People who use it through construction zones and such are just stupid.
Ye
I also hate the Autopilot name, and people calling it "Autonomous Driving". It's basically just a lane keeping assist + adaptive cruise control



Did spot this Abarth 124 Spider today.. those rims look kinda cool on this car if you ask me
sweet
Buy one ๐
no different engine i believe
this has the tiny 1.4
turbo
i think the miata is still naturally aspirated
i could be wrong
Mazda has N/A 1.5/2.0 iirc
the abarth with the 1.4 and you just rev the nuts off the block 
that the 124 spyder will always been known as the fiata
sings
I'm sure you could have a fiddle with that turbo and get it right at 200 lb-ft of torque 
You know what also has a fiat engine?
then it'd be a proper road car
the 3.0L straight 6 ecodiesel
i've only heard bad things about that engine
but you dont really step into a fiat dealership thinking oh this'll be like a toyota
it's more like it's pretty and makes the zoomie noises 
cries in 1.2 16v petrol/gas/LPG
i used to drive around in a 5.9L v8 detroit magnum v8 engine 
I need moar displacement
4 barrel carb
now that was an engine
did some valves, a new carb, some long tube headers
went from like 250 hp 395 torque to almost 450/450

That are too many cilinders ~ no one ever
Imagine driving that with $7.50/gallon for gas
Pls don't
In total I have 23.4L of displacment
all the way to the nearest gas station where i gota pull it up
๐ฆ
fill*
You'll the neighbours house with it too
$110.24
For 93 here it is 3.82
$110.24 to go 312 miles 
runs in $7.50/gallon
ofc it helps that we are right next to the biggest gas plant in the us iirc
one time I backed into a corolla
totaled the corolla
it kind of dented my bumper
Selected a random gas station in ๐ณ๐ฑ
โฌ1.779/liter atm == โฌ6.75/gallon == $7.51 USD /gallon
That's for regular
So I consider $4.24/gallon cheap
cries 
cries even more
Lol $1.97 == โฌ1.76, so 1 gallon is cheaper than 1 liter in the Netherlands
that's epic
OOF
highest I have EVER seen it was $4.00ish a gallon, which was when the economy was fucked like 10 yrs ago
We'd even consider that as extremely cheap
We're on vacation now, refueled in Austria for โฌ1.299/liter, which is $5.50USD/gallon
That's cheap xD
38 MPG US tho ๐
1.70โฌ/liter is normal here
1.55-1.65โฌ/l here
๐ข
for 98 octane
98 
LPG is cheap so /care about the gas price tbh ๐
5l/100km, can't really bother myself with the gas prices
My 1.2 16v gets RON98 for gas and RON112 (ยฑ, no exact figures) for LPG 
Trying to sell my mondeo before the gas prices go too high ๐
Replace it with a 660cc Kei-car ๐
16v though, not the 8v
Yeah but > 8V
Still, better than newer VWs (:
Yup
Who needs belt changes when you have a timing chain ๐
You don't have to worry about the timing chain on the mondeo v6 like never ๐
Chain?
Yea
Nice 
Same with mine
Unless you run it low on oil, because the chain runs through the oil
Well I don't
But if you run an engine low on oil, you deserve a broken chain xD
You don't deserve a combustion engine if you run it low on oil
GMTA
No more fault codes
Lol
Oh nice!
Wanted to touch that delicious carbon fiber on the hood
Nice dark green color for it :3
@fathom socket carbon fiber splinters are worse than steel or fiber glass splinters
agreed the green is a solid color
lmao on my owners manual Lexus recommends a new timing belt yearly, or every 15k miles. Nope. Lol. Forum vets say every 90-100k which is more in line of what I'd expect
Also our explorer (the bundle of problems that it is) stretched it's timing chain and damn near destroyed the engine
Warranty fixed it, 11k in repairs
Older subies are honestly really good looking

22B โค
why not
I mean, the longest thread on the forum is also the car thread...
Because racecar






So. My Father is basically obsessed with Opel/Vauxhall (for the british fellas) and has bought himself a new car. Even though he knows how GM sucks Ass. Nothing special to be honest, just to wanted to share.
glares at MK's Opel
literally never heard of that lol
i kinda dont think we had that over here
ive never ever seen one
wtf
Cadillac Catera is the US version of the Omega
ive seen Devilles and stuff from that those years but never a Catera
Deville is a Caddy, Cetera is just a rebadged Opel
infact some asshole in a deville totalled our ford five hundred
Literally built in Germany, exported to the US
MK is correct. Although the Catera is a bit more beefed up version of the Omega and about the rust, my dads one has only this โoptic rustโ otherwise its fine. Well. Shock absorbers are done... but otherwise a quite nice.
Car* some words should be named.
Well the Cadillac had the same engine as the Omega 3.0 V6 (X30XE)
Iirc the last RWD Opel (besides the Opel GT/Saturn Sky/Pontiac Solstice)
I meant interior wise and i love those alloys on the Catera!
Ah it's a Omega/Chevrolet mix on the inside xD
One thing that bothers me about the interiour is this GIANT scoop over the speedo and so on. What did they plan to put there?! A fighter jet? xD
You mean the width?
Well in EU spec there is the MID
Speedo + radio/nav/temp/ on board PC/...
Or CID depending on the trim/options
I know just. The size bothers me, from the Calibra we know that it can be smaller and fit a whole cockpit of buttons!
Lol yes but the Calibra is based of the Vectra
Interior design of the Calibra is quite boring if you ask me
But it is simple! If I sit in the Omega upright i feel like i sit in my uncles Jimny, it doesnโt feel like its a Limousine! I know its a problem of taste but just. A middle way! Between the one and the other!
I actuallt quite like the Omega interior
Especially the B facelift
But the speedometer with non-digital odometer just looks old-fashioned xD
They put this in cars up to 2003
oof
Thats like the GM move xD โlets take dis and put it in dis. No one will notice!โ Well yeah... until you got the corsa shiftstick in your expensive Omega.
But! Replacement Parts are dirt cheap because of that.
They did. Just like the Middle console vents are on the Corsa, the Calibra and the Omega. As well as Radios with cassettes or cd Players. All the same.
Switches and knobs in general.
Lol I recognize the xwnter vents now too
Wow
Yeah switchgear same
Climate controls is the same as in the Vectra, they only added another temperature selector for the 2 zone Climate control
And what the Designers are always doing is the weird placement for doorlifters which are NOT the same on the different models!,
You see? The GM move, dirt cheap producing.
Still, love my Corsa 
Corsa is the sweet little Egg ride. You hate it or love it. I personally love it too. 
I have a Corsa D... Post-facelift so with fixed steering (pre-facelift can feel dead around the center), sport suspension etc
Not very powerful (1.2) but it's fun to drive
Lighter Cars are always more fun to drive! Well, for a few exceptions...
1060kg is mine, due to the second fuel tank (LPG). Normal version is 1030kg
i wanna buy a toyota yaris
and strip it out
get it under 900 Kg
or 2000 pounds

put some eco tires on it 
get like 50 mpg
and have hella room in the back of the hatch
it only has a gas in amerifat 

Sedan or hatch?
hatch
right i know
5 year old mazda 2
"brand new 2020" 
but still i could make it zoom zoom 
in 2020 it'll have a manual 
toyota supra? no manual
1400 yaris
manual 
$14,000
Well ofc ๐
Why would you get an auto in something is a Mazda2/Yaris/...
Manual makes them fun to drive 
You can also get the Mazda6 with a manual
im trying to make a poor mans lotus 
Get one of the latest Smart cars, turbocharged RWD 

I've been thinking about trading my 1.2 in for a 1.4T... and tune is 
Would give it 170hp 
Which isn't bad on 1100kg
mhm
o3o I drive a 2007 Yaris with a 5spd manual.
My neighbours had a yaris from around the same time, they also had a Hyundai Tucson (also like an '10). One day I was outside because IDK and my neighbour drives into the driveway in the Tucson and just rams the Yaris like a good ~3 metres forward (10 ft). This was in ๐ณ๐ฑ

Suzuki Swift is probably the lightest in it's class atm... 825kg for the mild hybrid version, up to 945kg for a Sport version (1.4T 140hp).
Mazda2 shakes violent
realizes shaking is not from being scared but from car vibrating apart
Mazda ๐ฎ

Seriously considering on getting a Mazda 6 MPS
But they are so cheap for some reason, it's scaring me a bit
new video is up ๐
This week we Lab Test another dog friendly ride, the 2019 Honda Passport Elite AWD! #Honda #HondaPassport #Passport Our Recent Vids: 2019 Hyundai Kona: https...
Why order your brand new Mercedes C-class Coupe with satnav when you can glue a TomTom system to your infotainment screen?
LOL omg

yeah
@stoic ledge Listen to me
If you buy a fiata we would be mopar brothers
@fathom socket didn't you want the fiata?
We call all meet at the mechanics

.
@vital glen Probably won't fit in one ๐
Yes 
Everything looks the same these days
This GT, the NSX, the C8
I'm uninspired, to say the least
trying to figure out if I'm looking at a Mercedes C, E or S class
Srsly difficult ๐
E63 sedan
Or wagon
Not a fan on how Mercedes made the c class infotainment screen look like they glued a tablet as a second thought
Tbh I don't like the connected screens in the newer ones
I actually think the refreshed GLC has the best looking current infotainment of Mercedes
The modern screens but separated
Yes it's the "glued on" screen but the gauges are so much nicer
That is true
I did look at a new glc before I bought my rx
Are you planning to buy new or used?
Ah no I was literally staring at a E class in front of me, wondering what it was xD
I wish I could afford one ๐
They arenโt too bad in the used market since depreciation hits them like a freight train
But new car prices are extremely high here due to taxes so they stay relatively expensive xD
Oh where do you live if you donโt mind me asking?
The Netherlands ๐ณ๐ฑ
Nice.thought you where in the US
Nope
If anyone is interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtyxbToiobs&feature=youtu.be
FOR THOSE OF YOU ON MOBILES CHECK OUT THE CHANNELS HERE: CHN-2 - TRACK GFX - https://youtu.be/3unHEZNB1t0 CHN-3 - QUAD SPLIT ONBOARD - https://youtu.be/QluvY...
Quite an interesting race ๐
Spa ๐
Yeah, it was raining there before
Just drove by the Hockenheim
But some are driving on slicks on a wet track
I bet there was
Belgian roads suck
Wait hockenheim, you gonna watch the F1 race?
๐

But the Mercedes here you can get them 5k to 12k off depending on the car. 2-3 years old with no more than 13k miles.
Thank you lease returns
Cheaped E-class I can find is a E200 diesel, 150k miles: โฌ19k
Oooof

2016 gla with 12k miles for 17500 pounds roughly
I can get a e350 with that same miles for 20k pounds
Big ooof
Clean title 1 owner
Literally the cheapest 2016 GLA 180 with < 15k miles is โฌ27k
Lol an E350
Lemme check
Gonna be expensive xD
That gla was a 250 lol
Jeeeez what about the more basic cars like a base Honda Civic with a manual same year and miles?
I'll see if I can find the latest type Civic
Literally the cheapest latest gen
1.0 Turbo
131hp tho ๐
Hey at least we arenโt both in Singapore
Lol yes
Itโs a crap show over there
Srry gotta go talk to you later (:
For sure itโs 4am over here so I need sleep anyways lol

Rtx bull bar

Motortrend have started testing for their Best Driver's Car.
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Today I got anxiety driving a Car 








I just want an old hatchback with good power and good fuel economy. I hate the look of new cars.
First of all... why would you want a Mazda2... second, wouldn't that depreciate like crazy?
Mazda2's keep their value quite well
Atleast here they do
Cheapest decently equiped Mazda2 4th gen:
2015 with 50k km: โฌ13k
Price new: โฌ20k
Depreciation over 4 years == โฌ7k == 35%
Most cars depreciate more tbh
i have no desire to ever sell the vehicle
i'll drive it until the wheeks fall off
and then i'll glue at least 3 of them back on
That's what I'm planning to do with my RX300


@fathom socket you're from the US right? I don't see the Yaris hatchback there, only the sedan
Ok scratch that, it's under upcoming vehicles
Car still has equal performance.
The engine just needs to be a little stronger in the US model to counter the extra weight the driver has. @stoic ledge

Im with the idea of driving a car till it dies. I don't like losing money.
Well technically you'd lose money if you had to put a tank of gas in it or fix it, so you should just buy a car, drive it until the tank is empty, then sell it
Just cause you sell a car doesn't mean you're losing money. If the car is bought and sold at fair market value, then you're likely making a good choice
If you drive a car into the ground, you only get $300 worth of scrap

If any of you are qualified, and want to work around the Nurburgring. ๐ https://www.instagram.com/p/B0h1HX8hqxS/
The difference is only 1.4% ๐
Never thought of it that way
LMAO
Lmao
X doubt
Why do some people do this?
wtf $603 a month for a damn patriot
For 75 months
20.90% annual rate Y I K E S
An extra $20k for a $25k loan.
That's horrible financial sense
> doesn't have the money to buy a car so gets a loan
> pays $45k for a $25k car
:boi:
Save money for a year and get a $7k car.
Exactly
But that won't give you the status of a "new"car
Not sure how much status a Jeep Patriot has
But some people care
passport sunset
F*ck SUVs.
pretty clean ngl
reminded me of this
the new Pilots with the black rims are clean af imo
Dat pink <whatever it is> ๐ ๐คข
@warm sparrow agressive
I picked up my car from having it serviced and looked over yesterday.
My rear coils are apparently half a turn short. Broke.
Nice
Rip
F
It's honestly fine.
Just something for me to keep back in my head, to probably have fixed sometime.
Friends sketch of an Eclipse ๐
@stoic ledge it's a Nissan Versa
Kitted, pink, and lowered Nissan Versa Note with a sprinkle of camber, Japanese tuning and deep dish wheels
There was a photo posted by @rotund matrix of a Honda passport or pilot
Scroll up a bit
From here
Pink hatch behind a black van
oh
ye, clean black on black honda pilot
The car behind the Pilot
@stoic ledge the girl next to the car is what? 

I had a shop polish up my headlights. And it looked like they just took a fucking polishing mashine and went to town. Without masking or anything.
And without doing any kind of prep work to remove the scratshes in the lens.
yikes
There was heaps of polish residue on the bumper. And I opened up the hood to find a bunch of spots there too.
Quality service /s
yikes, that's not aight
And one of the headlights that they "worked" on. https://i.imgur.com/rmJINPx.jpg
Yikes
god that's scratched to shit
It was pretty bad prior. That's why I paid for someone to polish them. To you know, remove the scratches.
what did you do? @fossil imp

yea, got into a tank slapper then understeered into a savage kerb
I also hit the side curb once, but those were the steel ones, so i didnt really care
Trying to cover it up by writing "DUNLOP" on the side?
Wee for having some meat on the tires.
Yikes
Always fearing for my rims when parallel parking ๐
Don't parallel park then?
Fair enough
Matte black 17's are a curb magnets
Man, internet is down here. It sucks...


That's good ๐
knock on wood
@tropic silo me? too late "fixed" it
Curb it, fix it & prentend nothing happened
๐
good excuse for a new set right?
Might be
i need 18x8.5 ET35
Was thinking about 18's too, but I got a brand new set of rims and wheels for 500โฌ
At 17"
bargain
ikr
im looking at that for each rim ๐ฆ
lmao
without tyres
my set of wheels are 1/3th of the price of my car
There was a small BMW meet up a few days ago, and I saw this nice looking 2002 there.
@severe night poor truck
@vital glen I know, right?
Honda Passport?
It looks... like it has more plastic than a knockoff item from China.
PSA: The passport is not a good buy
This might have changed in the 6 months or so I haven't been on the forums, but there is a Honda tech who frequents the car thread on the forum and he's said it has multiple issues due to the fact that it was a relatively rushed car and a large portion of parts/electronics are still undocumented within Honda's service system.
His name is........ Uh... someone help me here. I think it starts with a V... Just go on and ask for the Honda tech lol they'll get him
My car passed its check-up inspection.
Gave her some of the good stuff for passing.
98 octane instead of 95.
You must run some high hp shit. 95 alone is higher than any pump we have lol
@shadow osprey 98 RON = 93 AKI (What USA uses for their ratings)
98 is cheaper than 95
98 is a tad more expensive here.
This is what a stacked station has over here.
adblue=
Piss for diesel cars.
i smell oil fuel
That station very likely has a 6th 'pump' as well. For washer fluid.
It really depends on where you live. And what season it is.
The store-bought stuff is usually better for taking care of the bugs.
Icey lines is no good.
i drive mostly this nowdays
No need for washer fluid, then. 
Speaking of which. I should see if I'm able to hook up AUX to my radio.
im looking for better audios ystem
Something silly with my car...
It seems like the cup holder option isn't that common???
Most others just have a bin of sorts there.
@civic spoke in the us we don't get the europoor specs

As in?
Your price of entry is higher than ours because of it. 
We have much more basic specs than you guys.
Including engine options.
God damnit, just dropped my phone
Is it fine?
Nice
Oh yeah it is fine, it just made loud noise
@civic spoke you can get a cable like this, should work fine with your Business CD:
https://img1.bgxcdn.com//thumb/large/oaupload/banggood/images/A4/27/ed72f8d7-8ddd-f332-e47c-99cd130a7529.jpg.webp
And as an example is my car again. You guys didn't get the 320i engine, if I remember right
Yeah, I know that there is some kind of cable that I can get for it
Only the E82
Never realy liked the look of that one
But hey the new 1er is only FWD so ๐
1M sure, but all the others look out of proportion if you ask me
But even then. We have stuff like the 218i ๐
2 series with a 3 cylinder and 135 hp.
better to not get a bmw in finland

Yes a megan is much better
Ahh pump E85, how I wish there was more than one gas station in the entire state with you
Lolz xD
I mean it's only 20 minutes from my house, but still
Iirc there are 2 in my entire country
what is megan
@tight cypress Renault Megane?
yes


> accurate on board computers 
I'll check what it's really is once I fill up again.
6.3 L/100km is really good, though. I'll take 37 MPG (US) any day of the week.

For a Mรฉgane? That's... Really bad
hello hiitchy
Heil Latin
I don't really take my car above 4k RPM
Okay basically my company gave me a choice of which work van I can choose from
Uhm ok wtf was that xD
There are two choices
70 kmh is 2k RPM in 5th/Top gear.
Choice 1 is a Ford Transit Connect XLT
mab we should go to #465306867590234114 @delicate sinew they having a decent convo here
Aw man sorry guys i just dont want to spam general
Transit Connect or... ?
(that's not this server's general)
Transit or what?
dad has an transit and the one of the leaf springs are broken
No pls continue
oui let's continue then
Either that or the Mercedes Benz Metris
Well it's a company car so /care
Its for work
If broken -> gets fixed
Company car lol

They want me to decide what I want
OR
Metris (Vito) is a size above the Transit Connect
The tie breaker, if I dont decide
I mean, i don't know MUCH about cars but I assume that you'd want the merc
Is this Dodge Ram Promaster City
take 1986 toyota hiace
I dont even want the merc lmao
Yeah, agreed
-86 hiace always starts
Both Merc or Ford are better imho
no matter what
The company is trying to overhaul their fleet tbh
and its rwd!
RAM Promaster City isn't bad but old compared to rivals now
Yeah, I was thinking of just telling them to give me the ford
What engines?
ford is reliable
Europe has different engines I assume... All small diesels
but the suspension cant take it
Lmao
/care because company cars
Lets put it this way they dont even lease
They buy the cars cash and sell it at 70k km
I cant drift with over $100,000 worth of hardware in the van though xD
If something breaks theyre gonna be like tf did u do
you deja vu'd
fwd vans are boring
take the ford
Yeah, I quite like it anyway
just be prepeared for random squeake
@vital glen Ohio
@turbid karma where?
interesting
@indigo coral until you realize only low profile tires
not really
Hey, look. It's the car that never was.
Hey, look. It's a car I won't ever be able to afford.
I wonder when they are actually going show off the Venom F5.
the car that i dont like













Buying new car soon, 2019 A6 Quattro or 2019 Genesis G80 twin turbo?
@simple wyvern I would almost go for the Genesis. But are you in need of such a large and fairly luxurious vehicle?
Hot dang. The configurator for the G80 is hot garbage.
My first car was a 2003 Altima, current car is a 2013 Avalon, and I've worked for bunches of dealerships and I always find myself drawn towards big luxury sedans. But I can't make up my mind between those 2
The Genesis is probably a lot cheaper in the longer run.
That's what I'm thinking, my fiancรฉ has a 2006 A3 hatch and it's so fun to drive but she just spent half the cost of the car on repairs
Oh, right. Our boy Edzel has a G70
I was looking at those too, I just lean towards the G80 a bit more.
That red and their dark blue metallic are absolutely stunning
Blue is my fav tho
Kind of nice that you are still able to get the 2.0T G70 with a manual still.
Yea that's pretty sick, all of their models have some nice options. The funny thing is I'm an electrician but there is no way in hell I'm buying a truck xD
Haha idk, I'm not opposed to an Audi wagon but that's the only exception I'd make. The volvos are so nice too. I'd have to get that B&W package tho
I'm about to complete my audio makeover in the Avalon with 2x10" focal subs, Focal 165AS3 component front stage, dsp and amp
Brother saw this V60 a while back. I think it's on bags?
I've never been a fan of that but it's a damn nice car. I'd say bags on that one for sure, unless that guy has spare bumpers lying around
Looks like 50% windshield tint too. I'm never going back to clear windshields after having experienced that
I'm generally partial to BMW's myself.
So if I had to get a new vehicle, then I might just get a 3 series or something like that.
Ye most definitely on bags. Looks cool though, not gonna lie
I would legit buy a decently basic 320d wagon if I had the money, and were in search for a new car. ๐
Just because it's the only one that can be had with a manual. 
New Volvo V60 really is a good looking car โค๏ธ
And it's cheaper than all it's rivals
(atleast here it it)
I want a Volvo kinda tbh
V60 R-Design: yes please
borrow the amg v8 or something lol, those 4cyls will be hell to maintain later
with phev, turbo and supercharged on the t8, thats not an out of warranty car
Faster models like the Polestar engineered are PHEVs
Not trying to be like oh all 4cyl bad or anything, but they could use some bigger engines in their lineup
merc is good at that. some smaller, efficient, cheap stuff, then they have higher models that'll snap your neck if you sneeze on the pedal
2.0T is the most anybody can afford here anyways due to emissions so ๐
true and thats a fat rip
A S80 Yamaha V8 like they used to have would probably add like $60k in taxes xD
That's why we had the S80 with a 1.6 diesel ๐
Uhm I can check, just a sec ๐
im checking
The tax rate is based on combined highway and city mileage per gallon. The rate can range from $1,000 for vehicles that get at least 21.5 mpg but less than 22.5 mpg all the way up to $7,700 for vehicles that get less than 12.5 mpg.
except its not that simple
SUVs and Trucks get a pass
125k USD in ๐ณ๐ฑ
๐
be about 6-7k for the gas guzzler tax on a Challenger Hellcat Demon
or whatever they called it this time
but then some of the worst offenders for poor mileage are exempt ๐
Y I K E S some smaller hatchbacks have more tax here ๐
like every big SUV, even something like the G65 gwagen
which gets like 9mpg
is not subject to the guzzler tax
lol
A base TrackHawk is 265k USD here ๐
how much is a base G65 amg?
To verify the statement I made earlier: the emissions tax on a 130hp VW Golf is ~ 5k USD, almost the same as the gas guzzler tax on a Hellcat
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Lemme check the G65
We only have the G63?
yeah i was just looking on their website and didnt see g65 for usa either











next to is tho... 

