cars

[idle cargo]

and a m pakage e39 in alpfen wit is 3 grand

[fathom socket]

I love the hot valley design

Abd quad turbo

OMFG

[idle cargo]

yea its good

[fathom socket]

And*

[idle cargo]

but quad turbo is really only good at a very limited amount of things

[fathom socket]

Get that on a custom frame e36 and I’ll die

[idle cargo]

till it will get a billit block and make 50 psi boost

[fathom socket]

Full 4130 frame 🤩

[idle cargo]

no e 39 with the back doors welded on tig

[fathom socket]

With a nice straight 10cm quad exhaust

[indigo coral]

I heard on line it's harmful to flush transmission fluid because it can ruin your clutch pack & make it slip. Is this the case?

[idle cargo]

with just the sheet and a bit of bracing

[fathom socket]

Yes

The e39

But you need to get the wheelbase shortened

[idle cargo]

Getrag 420G

[fathom socket]

And get A-arm suspension for that high speed shiz

[idle cargo]

no i will not shorten the wheel base

i want it to be long wheel base

because i like driving long wheel base a lot more then short wheelbase

[fathom socket]

You should get a good ecu tho

Holley maybe

[idle cargo]

likt this car has the wheelbasemy moms minivan has

that is really good

[fathom socket]

Or if you got the cash go motec, life racing or cosworth 😉

[idle cargo]

i want a holley domenator as its software does the things on afr reading

[stoic ledge]

Getrag F13 💪

[fathom socket]

Yeah holley is the best bang for your buck

[idle cargo]

but i don't know if i can make it work on a vvti v12

[fathom socket]

You can

Get itbs too

[stoic ledge]

Oof I'm behind apparently

[fathom socket]

So you can have no lag

[idle cargo]

i will get the antilag thing yest

[fathom socket]

But with itbs

[idle cargo]

that is just gonna be the best

with like a cutout system with side exhoust

[fathom socket]

No antilag, just program it so it keeps the plenum on pressure

With itbs its much easier

[idle cargo]

and a back exhoust with dubble muffs

yea but antilagg

[fathom socket]

Antilag is not gonna help you a lot on turns

[idle cargo]

i mean im gonna use junkjard hybrid garret turdo's so idc

it is gonna on hillclimb

[fathom socket]

Oh

I’m a pressure plenum itb kinda guy so...

[idle cargo]

i want it to do the nurberg ring wilst i still live a 4 to 5 our drive away from it

then i want to do some hillclimb

[fathom socket]

But I’m also a methanol kinda guy so I’m not gonna argue too much

😛

[idle cargo]

id install mathane once id get a billet block for it

[fathom socket]

Antilag for everyday driving 😁

[idle cargo]

sice a billet block will ceep it light but will make it way more conveaniante

[fathom socket]

Get a steel block

[idle cargo]

there is no steel block for this engine

[fathom socket]

I’m not that into Aluminium

Like the brits say

XD

[idle cargo]

and i don't want one since its to heavy

[fathom socket]

No steel block, really?

[idle cargo]

its a vvti engine like the 5.0 cyote so its gonna be huge and such

[fathom socket]

Jesus, not even custom?

Are you gonna de-stroke it?

For that op rpm

[idle cargo]

it be a e 68 block

from the 760 li

[fathom socket]

Which year?

[idle cargo]

im gonna shorten it

[fathom socket]

E68?

[idle cargo]

like 2006 2007

yes final gen of the e series 7 series

[fathom socket]

Ohk

Get it ported

[idle cargo]

like an e67 or an e 68

[fathom socket]

I heard they had some problems but porting fixes them

[idle cargo]

i will port it myself

[fathom socket]

🤜

[idle cargo]

if it has not been done yet

we don't have preformance shops here

[fathom socket]

Are you gonna get it sleeved?

[idle cargo]

but yes it will not make more power after 5 grand

1e off yes

then eventualy a billit block

with sleeves

[fathom socket]

Have you thought of going titanium?

Custom*

[idle cargo]

titanium valves and pistons yes

[fathom socket]

Block

🤣

[idle cargo]

there should be kits lots of russians do racing with the block

block will be to expensive to ever do

[fathom socket]

Yeah...unfortunately

[idle cargo]

that is a 100000 euro block

[fathom socket]

Ik but you could be rich, i dunno

More like a 50k block

[idle cargo]

like billet aluminium or a aluminium mix will be the cheapest yet best way to go

[fathom socket]

I think performancebmw has one for 43k

[idle cargo]

no titanium will ruin the bits every 5minutes

preformance bmw is a ripoff

[fathom socket]

But you can get it to rev higher 😉

[idle cargo]

yes because its ported

a lot

[fathom socket]

They have some sweet 2nd hand deals tho

Performance bmw

[idle cargo]

yea no i can get a stock block for 3 grand

so no

and i have the tools to port it

so no

[fathom socket]

I heard they had a p63 full engine+turdos for 240k. I want it. Pls make me rich 😁

[idle cargo]

im not gonna spend such a redicilus amount on a single block

i can't make you rich

[fathom socket]

Ik but i rly love that engine

[tropic silo]

Boo!

[fathom socket]

Maybe you can give me luck for the lottery

XD

[idle cargo]

its the single overhead cam block of the e 31

just get that and port it with a drysump

[fathom socket]

Hm?

[idle cargo]

those blocks ive seen sell for 1 grand

[fathom socket]

But the p63 has a reinforced carbon block

[idle cargo]

bmw was gonna make a vvti dual overhead cam one with the 520 or 523's heads

[fathom socket]

Thats what makes it so light

[idle cargo]

of the e39

no its al auminium

with some magnisium parts

thats what makes it light

[vital glen]

Make it out of cardboard

[fathom socket]

Are we talking about the same engine*

[idle cargo]

yes

same everything

the e31's vs the p63

[fathom socket]

The p63/2 is carbon reinforced ti

[idle cargo]

wait thats the new one

not the old onje that the lm x5 also used?

i thought it was that

like the f1's engine

[fathom socket]

No

I wish 😕

[idle cargo]

meclairen f 1

[fathom socket]

Thats a v12

[idle cargo]

yes

[fathom socket]

This is a v8

[idle cargo]

oh

the one of the f30 ?

[fathom socket]

Inverted ports v8

[idle cargo]

the lmp engine of that one

[fathom socket]

Its a hot valley engine

So intake on the outdie

Outside*

Exhaust on the too

Top*

[idle cargo]

so they fliopped the heads

[fathom socket]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_N63

Its the racing version of that

The n63 is the base one, s63 the m version, p63 is the racing version

[idle cargo]

yea

[fathom socket]

In a nutshell, yes, they just flipped the heads

The thing is I wish it was that easy

[idle cargo]

theoreticlea it is

you just have to have the bolt pattern reversed

[fathom socket]

But the air pathway has to be changed

[idle cargo]

like the left head on the right side and the right side on the left

[fathom socket]

• you need to get a different cicle

[idle cargo]

direct injection the opel yz22f has that

[fathom socket]

Cycle*

[idle cargo]

yea

[fathom socket]

If you get a custom shop to do it, they can probably do a inversed v12 engine

[idle cargo]

well that and gravity will not let the fuel reach the intake ports unless there higher or have direct injection to only let air pass into the engine

[fathom socket]

That would be 🤯🤯

Yeah you need di

[idle cargo]

in the us some ppl sell the opel kit for the cobalt

has like a 10 to 15 horse difference on the na car

[fathom socket]

But you can get port injection

To work

[idle cargo]

my moms car has it and its great

[fathom socket]

With itbs and plenum pressure

So the plenum is always on boost

[idle cargo]

you can if you have the intake go above the valve and have the fuel dropped there

[fathom socket]

And the itbs just open to rush the fuel and air in

Thats what i was saying before

[idle cargo]

but that woud be a air restriction thus wearing the turbo's faster

[fathom socket]

Yes...true

But still 😍

Even if the intake is below the valve

[idle cargo]

that would do more dammage then just making the turbo's run antilag

[fathom socket]

Maybe with the pressure

Maybe it would work

[idle cargo]

that car runs 20 psi factory standard

[fathom socket]

🤮

50psi with ease

[idle cargo]

bmw usualy doesn't do a turbo unless there gonna run 20 plus psi

the p version yes but that is a billet direct injection block

[fathom socket]

Bmw turdos are 🤩

[idle cargo]

bmw turdo's are garrets

[fathom socket]

Bmw turdos 👌👌👌👌

[idle cargo]

there german garretsrather then french cheapo turdo's

[fathom socket]

But the p63 ones are magnesium i think

Yeah french turdos are shittttt

The new mercedes turdos are 🤮

[idle cargo]

wel i have a german end a french garret laying on a shelf of wich the french one is gonna be send of to become a hybrid turdo and the german one came of a blown block that had the head blown and it was fine after a little cleaning

[fathom socket]

Seee

[idle cargo]

gernalbearing so you can feel and hear it but still

[fathom socket]

I’m sorry but the french weren’t made to make turdos

[idle cargo]

the french one i found ready to be junked tho si i don't know what happend there

they really werent even ment to make cars

i mean desighn sure

but built no

[fathom socket]

😂😉🤣😁

Sry french ppl

Xd

[idle cargo]

if they made the golf this is how it would look

and i think it looks a lot better then a golf

but it drives not very good

it will not go below 20 on the 1.5 tdi in 1e

it is horible

but i have to live with it since its my drivers instrucers car

can't do over 4grand

its pethetic

because the turdo kicks in at like 2700

and its tiny

[stoic ledge]

Clio IV is quite nice

Also driven it as my drivers instructers car

1.5 dCi, 90hp

Was a 2013 tho

So the pre-facelift

In red 🔥

[fathom socket]

I gtg sry 😦

Talk to you guys later

[idle cargo]

my driver nstructor had one in blue before and one in red before and basicly all of the colours

later

[fathom socket]

✌️👋

[idle cargo]

but he has a white one now and it was orange wraped for a little while

he had to get a new plate for it tho

[stoic ledge]

Cya vpereira

My instructor now also has a white one

After 5 years and 350k km he bought a new one 😛

[idle cargo]

well i see a lot of them around

where as in province do you ive

to make sure its not in the same district as my instructor

[stoic ledge]

Limburg 😈

[idle cargo]

haha

[stoic ledge]

Hasn't had a blue Clio tho

[idle cargo]

ive been there but haven't seen a clio there yet

but he is in zeeland nord brabant

you belgian german dutch thing

[stoic ledge]

No Clio in Limburg ?

Well they are sold here too 😛

🇳🇱

Anyway gotta go (again), cya 😛

[tropic silo]

Dutch yay

🇳🇱

[fathom socket]

@stoic ledge @idle cargo Clio v6 😍🤩🤤

I’m back finally

🙃

[tropic silo]

Welcome back

||Totally not 27 minutes late||

[stoic ledge]

Too bad manufacturers don't do crazy stuff like that Clio V6 anymore, now they only have a 1.6T RS with a slow responding auto, no manual

[lime copper]

@idle cargo spammy there bud.

[fathom socket]

@stoic ledge stuff isn’t like it used to be

At least ford has the focus rs but still

No way near...

[shadow osprey]

The only reason the RS is redeeming is cause it's a 2.3. If it were a 2.0 making 350 it would be a good bit laggier.

Good news is the ST is getting the 2.3 with the new generation, making less power than the RS, so it'll be even more responsive

[wheat hatch]

What do you guys think of putting like, conversion kits on cars?
What I mean is if, for example, you have a W204 C63 AMG but you put a black series body kit on it, but don't put the AMD black series badge on it. Would that be considered acceptable? Or is that just a big, "nah dude"?

[shadow osprey]

Whatever floats your boat

For the most part, body panels are whatever you like. Badges are a stick-to-you-car kinda thing

Like people who put cobra badges on a mustang GT, nah they're lame. Cobra bumpers, cool. Badges, not.

[wheat hatch]

Got it

Considering on doing just what i mentioned, but I'm just unsure how it's viewed by people 😅

And I'm only doing because I know that I will never be able to acquire a C63 black series, so to full fill my dream, this seems to be the only way 😅

[tropic silo]

If you really put your heart and effort into it. You might get one @wheat hatch

[wheat hatch]

Naaah, they are just so rare man

I have seen one on sale so far, and that one cost like €200K

[tropic silo]

I believe you'll make your dream come through ❤

[wheat hatch]

@tropic silo Thanks man! 😄

[tropic silo]

[indigo coral]

@wheat hatch if you're not trying to fake people into thinking you have a fancier car, then it's fine.

[wheat hatch]

Yeah, I'm not going to walk around and say it's an black series

Plan is to get W204 C63 AMG, get a black series kit, and then get an ESS supercharger for it

[fathom socket]

Ess..get a magnusson

@wheat hatch

[wheat hatch]

We will see what I get 😅

[unreal pivot]

Hello hello

[shadow osprey]

twin turbo it

[odd talon]

@wheat hatch hopefully 2011+

[wheat hatch]

@odd talon at least a face lifted version 😄

[keen cove]

😭

[formal raptor]

anyone own an ex cop car? and can anyone confirm if people slow down when they see you

[lime copper]

[shadow osprey]

I definitely do a double take. Get a Taurus, they're becoming the new Crown Vic

Saw an ex cop Taurus for like 4500, i was surprised it was so cheap

[tropic silo]

I had an accident this morning.
A deer jumped infront of the van and my colleague smalled the breaks and steered, and hit the guardrail on the right-hand side.

[wheat hatch]

@tropic silo You guys good tho?

[tropic silo]

Yea. The only biggest problem we had was that i couldn't open my door and had to climb through the van to get out.

[fathom socket]

I found a Taurus Police Interceptor at $5.8k with like 52k miles on it

I would've gotten it if I actually had the funds

[civic spoke]

Truck used 26.88 L/100km when I drove it today.

[fathom socket]

Get a Ford Police Interceptor Utility

400hp beast

• it’s a suv

[tropic silo]

Or get a bus

It also has 400hp

[indigo coral]

That moment when you're seriously considering saving up for coilovers for your old grandma car
😂

[tropic silo]

Get them racing coilovers

[fathom socket]

But a bus doesn’t do a 0-60 that fast

[tropic silo]

If you really believe in a bus. It will!

[fathom socket]

those bc racing coilovers

strip unnecessary weight, add a monster engine, sponsored by monster energy of course, and get some beefier tires

[indigo coral]

My car corners like sh*t right now, steering isn't half bad but wow the body roll/lean

[stoic ledge]

Drives a tall car
Is surprised the car rolls/leans

😛

[indigo coral]

I've driven lots of talk cars that don't lean. Like that

😂😂

[stoic ledge]

Well also depends on suspension setup, RX300 is probably set up for comfort

Your parents Explorer Sport will probably have less body lean

But still more than a normal car/wagon/...

[indigo coral]

Of course. My RX is relatively soft but not as comfortable as it would need to be to justify the abysmal cornering performance

I'm willing to make somewhat of a sacrifice in ride comfort for stability and cornering

[stoic ledge]

drives of in his small European hatchback with sport suspension

But yeah I get 'ya 😛

[vital glen]

@stoic ledge ok listen up here
You need at least 10L of displacement

[stoic ledge]

That means I can only get a semi

[wheat hatch]

[tropic silo]

😮

hi

[stoic ledge]

[tropic silo]

[shadow osprey]

It’s just old and probably very worn. @indigo coral just buy new shocks, unless the springs are also sagged out

Which I doubt they are

[indigo coral]

Shocks are relatively new. Like 15kish miles ago

It's just squish like crazy in corners

As far as I know, thats just how the car is. I believe that stiffer and more modern suspension would help

[raven owl]

stop talking about american cars

talk about jdm

[raven owl]

do u think that linus should have gotten a tesla

[vital glen]

@raven owl you went right back on to American cars

[raven owl]

what

but elon musk is south african

[vital glen]

Also, I bleed right, white, and blue, American cars is all I know

Tesla is setup in America

[raven owl]

so it is a true south african

[vital glen]

No

That's not how this works

[raven owl]

but elon co set it up

[vital glen]

Tesla, Inc. (formerly Tesla Motors, Inc.) is anAmerican automotive and energy companybased in Palo Alto, California. The companyspecializes in electric car manufacturing and, through its SolarCity subsidiary, solar panel manufacturing.

[raven owl]

#cars

but if he get deported

[vital glen]

It is an American Company

It would go to his shareholders

[raven owl]

it will be a south african

but what about his

shares

[vital glen]

I have no idea about that part

but the board would get control of the company

[raven owl]

he owns the most

[vital glen]

yes, but if he was deported

there would be some

legal issues in that

[raven owl]

he owns 19%

of tesl

a

so

[vital glen]

that is not majority

[raven owl]

what ever man

[vital glen]

What?

[raven owl]

imma just do my hw

pce

[indigo coral]

Tesla is an American car company.

Regardless of whether or not Elon is south african.

[shadow osprey]

Uh... we were talking about a Japanese SUV @raven owl

[raven owl]

yeah

[shadow osprey]

Elon is an American citizen anyways so... ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[raven owl]

what ever

so what is ur fav car

[shadow osprey]

Probably a mustang

:lul:

[raven owl]

where is jdm

[naive oak]

I mean, I always trashed on Japanese cars, but I drive a Miata now so...

[shadow osprey]

LOL

[indigo coral]

My Japanese car is just ...a car 😂

[fathom socket]

I'm thinking about importing a Toyota Crown from Japan and then adding a Liberty Walk Nation Widebody kit to it

[vital glen]

Christ you kids

[fathom socket]

Lol

[fossil imp]

but liberty walk

= cool

no?

no

u suck

STOP trying to mod shitboxes and save your money

[stoic ledge]

https://www.carid.com/images/liberty-walk/items/to-pri-11-kit-frp-oncar-06.jpg
Prius Liberty Walk 😂

[fossil imp]

wtf

[stoic ledge]

Dat rear camber tho

[fossil imp]

owner should be shot

for owning a prius

[stoic ledge]

And then again for installing that bodykit

[fathom socket]

environmentalists amirite

[fossil imp]

environmentalists can suck my hairy nutsack

n then get shot

twice

[stoic ledge]

Almost 5k USD unpainted 👀

[fossil imp]

hammerite

[stoic ledge]

Yikes

[fossil imp]

why would u do that

[fathom socket]

https://libertywalk.co.jp/bodykit/lb-nation/lb★nation-toyota-18-crown/

that's what my vision was

[fossil imp]

ud have to be clinically insane

[fathom socket]

Oof

[fossil imp]

thats thousands

why

[fathom socket]

it looks cool

[fossil imp]

not really

save the cash

[fathom socket]

I thought about the mustang liberty walk

but that's too expensive

[fossil imp]

wide body kits are chav/marmite

[stoic ledge]

It looks really bad imho

[fossil imp]

u either like or hate

not to mention u have to cut up all the arches to make them fit

[stoic ledge]

4k USD for that bodykit 👀

[fossil imp]

😩

[fathom socket]

but it's cool

[fossil imp]

no

[stoic ledge]

Well of you like it, you should do it. But don't be surprised if other peoole have different opinions 😛

[fathom socket]

the liberty walk mustang is expensive lol

[fossil imp]

looks shit

[fathom socket]

the only problem I have is the price

[fossil imp]

get an ebay replica

[fathom socket]

ew

[fossil imp]

quality product honest

😈

the liberty walk "kits" never fit properly anyway

[fathom socket]

I'll make it fit

[fossil imp]

u need to be a bodyshop pro to fit them lol

to look half decent

[fathom socket]

yeah I'm not going to install them, I'd just planned to give it all to a body shop

[fossil imp]

ok kiss goodbye to thousands on top of the thousands for the "kit"

[stoic ledge]

Price car + body kit + paint + labour == really, really ,really expensive

[fathom socket]

and then like $7.6k for air suspension

[fossil imp]

no pls stop

[stoic ledge]

How much is the car itself ?

[fossil imp]

$200 lol

[fathom socket]

for a 2015 mustang?

[stoic ledge]

Dude

[fathom socket]

like $17k minimum I think, from carmax

[stoic ledge]

No the Crown

[fossil imp]

shitbox

[fathom socket]

oh

the crown? if I import it, total cost is $5k

[fossil imp]

at least u can cut out all the rust

[fathom socket]

including shipping is $5k

[stoic ledge]

So $5k for a car, then $15-20k to fit air ride + a bodykit

Yeah that seems about right

[fossil imp]

😕

listen to us

it makes no sense

"but it looks cool"

no, stop

[fathom socket]

wait $15-20k for air suspension?

the air suspension is for the mustang, not the crown

[fossil imp]

PLUS bodykit

[fathom socket]

the crown would just be bodykit + price of car

that amounts to about $10k

[fossil imp]

y not restore the crown

[stoic ledge]

Ah that wasn't that clear buddy

[fossil imp]

n add decent mods

like engine mods

[fathom socket]

most are in really good shape in Japan

[fossil imp]

make it a sleeper

bodykits are a waste

[fathom socket]

I'm not really going for speed, I'll never really have the space to use it

[fossil imp]

😩

[stoic ledge]

Bodykit alone will be about $7.5k-10k including painting + installing, so a total of 12.5-15k USD

[fathom socket]

Oof

then the total cost would be like near $20k or more

[stoic ledge]

I edited the message above, I was not clear

My bad

😅

[fathom socket]

so I either get that or I can get the new 2019 Mazda 3

oh ok

[stoic ledge]

New Mazda 3 =

[fathom socket]

^

[stoic ledge]

I'd prefer the Mazda 3 over a riced Crown 😛

[fathom socket]

I watched doug demuro talk about it

[fossil imp]

😩

[stoic ledge]

Yeah with the Premium package

Hatchback just looks wrong tho

[fathom socket]

yeah the hatchback looks weird

[stoic ledge]

C-pillar is way to thick

Sedan is pretty tho

[fossil imp]

thicc pillars

[fathom socket]

thiCC pillars

[stoic ledge]

No not thicc, just FAT

[fathom socket]

horizontally tall

[stoic ledge]

Their SkyActive X engines look promising

US: 28k USD for a Premium package 2.5L with 180+hp
Netherlands (Europe): 28k EUR for a base 2L 120hp

This makes me sad

[fathom socket]

that's a feelsbadman

this is actually $10k shipped to the US

it's a different Toyota Crown from the one I was talking about before

[stoic ledge]

I'd chose that over ricing an older one tbh 😛

Aren't JDM cars < 25 years old illegal in the states ?

(or any non-US-certified cars)

[fathom socket]

Yes, I think if it's before 1994 it's illegal

so yes 25 years lol

but the old crown was like 2003-2008

[stoic ledge]

But the R34 is also illegal

[fathom socket]

🤔

some are legal tho

[stoic ledge]

But thats not 25 years old yet

Yeah but those were converted / homologated in the US by a certain company

Correct me if I'm wrong, but JDM cars younger than 25 y/o are illegal

[fathom socket]

tbh I don't know, because there are places to buy cars from the 1980s or 1970s or early 1990s and they aren't illegal

like let's say an R31 or an R32

[stoic ledge]

Yeah but those are over 25 years old now

[fathom socket]

yes, but they are still legal

https://www.speedworksnw.com/

that's where you can get like an r32 or like older japanese cars which they import and it's legal

[stoic ledge]

Yeah that's exactly what I'm stating 😛 Cars older then 25 year old are allowed to be imported. Newer cars (0-24 years old) are NOT allowed to be imported

R32 is older then 25 years now so they can be imported 😉

[fathom socket]

wait, then how is it that I can import a 2003-2008 or 2008-2012 crown

[fossil imp]

depends on the state

in EU u can import anything u like

[fathom socket]

so it would depend on the port?

[fossil imp]

the US state

like new jersey for example will accept old skylines

but not 2000> skylines

sry i mean other way round lol

ive been drinking

[fathom socket]

so if a state accepts a skyline r32, it doesn't necessarily mean that I can drive it legally in the state that I live in?

[fossil imp]

no

coz u will register it legally in the state that allows it

so u can drive it anywhere

[fathom socket]

ah okay, but to register it each year like for the license plate, would I have to go back to the same state?

[fossil imp]

yep

[fathom socket]

Oh, that might be a problem since I'm almost like at the opposite corner of seattle

but Balitmore is closer, so I guess I can just go there each year

[stoic ledge]

US import regulations You can build a car yourself which is perfectly fine, but importing a perfectly safe and tested modern car from abroad is to dangerous 😛

[fossil imp]

lol yep

logic 😒

[stoic ledge]

Only issue I have with JDM cars is the steering wheel 😛

[fossil imp]

on the wrong side?

😃

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[fossil imp]

but the lefthandside is the right side 😃

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[fossil imp]

jesus

dont use a pc after drinking

[stoic ledge]

[fossil imp]

but the RIGHThandside is the right side 😃

[stoic ledge]

The steering wheel should be on the left side of the car

[fossil imp]

no

[stoic ledge]

It's the only correct side

Yes

[fossil imp]

shifting with right hand is wrong

[stoic ledge]

Lol no

[fossil imp]

no

[stoic ledge]

Since most people are right handed, shifting with their right had feels more natural

[fossil imp]

im left handed

logic defeated

[stoic ledge]

I said most people

[wheat hatch]

[stoic ledge]

[vital glen]

@stoic ledge you mean the right people

[stoic ledge]

I'm always right

But yes

[fathom socket]

turn right to go left

[raven owl]

sup boys

[vital glen]

@fathom socket -hornet

[tropic silo]

[fossil imp]

😐

[fathom socket]

[tropic silo]

Hewwo :)

[shadow osprey]

Sup

[indigo coral]

Cel came on today, code for evap system. Cleared it and waiting to see if it returns. No issues with driving or anything. Felt normal. Don't have emissions tests in my state so that's not a concern

[shadow osprey]

Check your gas cap lol

[viral matrix]

+10bhp

[shadow osprey]

:lul:

[viral matrix]

[warm sparrow]

What's your car ?

And Nice wheels

[indigo coral]

@shadow osprey first thing I did lol.

Ive driven it around a bit, probablu about 10-12 miles and it hasn't come back yet. Hopefully it stays gone.

[stoic ledge]

@warm sparrow he drives a Mondeo Mk3 2.5 V6

[warm sparrow]

Thanks, not WuBzY

[viral matrix]

😁

[warm sparrow]

seems lifted up 🤔

[viral matrix]

Stock with 17" wheels

[indigo coral]

I'm tempted to get new front and rear bumper for my RX300, the man I bought it from ran into a few things in parkinglots

(no like, big accidents. Just like dented from a parking lot planter box and stuff)

(but for 200$ 🤷)

[atomic peak]

Ya can't beat my corolla seca

[indigo coral]

Not a picture of mine exactly, but it's that colour

TBH I like the colour. Sparkles in the sun, and it's distinctive without being a cop magnet

That car is surprisingly stable at speed

[stoic ledge]

Corolla Seca == just a Corolla hatchback or are there more differnces ?

^^ that Rx300 color is really nineties btw 😂

[indigo coral]

It's not a bad color tbh

[stoic ledge]

Not saying that , but the body + bumpers color combination is really nineties 😛

[indigo coral]

Oh yeah for sure

Lol

[tropic silo]

Hello hello!

Been to IAMS today 😄

That one has diamonds in it's headlights!!

[stoic ledge]

@tropic silo sure it's diamonds? I know they use Swarovski Crystals ..

Also that Rolls... 12 year old import wrapped in Gold...

[tropic silo]

Shush!

It's diamonds!

It said so on da pieco papero!

[stoic ledge]

Still no fan of those Maybach manhole cover wheels

[tropic silo]

Ah, they look nice in my opinion

Also my friend can't handle peer pressure. XD
We were driving in an Audi A4 and i said he need to show off the 0-100 time. And he just braked in the middle of the road and floored it XD

[stoic ledge]

Classic Audi driver, stopping in the middle of the road for no reason

[tropic silo]

It was a good reason!

Testing 0-100 time is a really good reason!

[fossil imp]

audi drivers *spit

[tropic silo]

I'm also an Audi driver....

[fossil imp]

oops

[tropic silo]

._.

[fossil imp]

lol

so's my dad

[tropic silo]

Hmmm

[fossil imp]

lul

im not saying ure driving an old mans car

or anything

😄

[tropic silo]

Hmmm

[fathom socket]

Audi b5 20v 😍

3 turdos 🤯🤩

[fossil imp]

eww

125bhp

no thx

3 turbos?? lol

[tropic silo]

Hmmm

3 turbos and only 125hp?!

What pressure do the turbos run at? Vaccuum?!

[fossil imp]

kids these days

whack lots of turbos on = instant coolness

[tropic silo]

Yes

[tropic silo]

Trash!

[indigo coral]

turdos huh

looks at ecoboost v6

I seriously need to get around to replacing rotors

[stoic ledge]

Less talking more replacing 😛

[indigo coral]

Lol

Theyre kind of expensive

282$

for 4 rotors and new pads

[stoic ledge]

That means you can buy a new RX300 for that

😛 😂

[indigo coral]

I was sore tempted to buy one I saw on craigslist for any parts I might need

Had 460k miles though

O.o

[stoic ledge]

Depending on the price, just do it 😝

[indigo coral]

It's funny how the prices on these work, KBB values are really low but they still sell for 4k+ easily

These are upgraded rotors and pads, better than the slightly lackluster RX300 stock ones

(can I send links w/o them getting deleted?)

https://brakeperformance.com/brake-rotors/premium-cross-drilled-&-slotted-brake-kit.php

hey it worked

[stoic ledge]

"Premium" 👀

[indigo coral]

well if I'm going to spend the money, I don't really want to go with the stock ones

They're not great

[tropic silo]

Who needs brakes? We only wanna go fast!!

[indigo coral]

Lol

[fathom socket]

Got myself a dash cam because screw distracted drivers. Has decent night vision

[indigo coral]

I need one

but money is scarce 😛

[fathom socket]

Got this one Amazon for 50 bucks. Sd card for 11

[indigo coral]

Which one? Would you mind sending a link?

[fathom socket]

YI 2.7" Screen Full HD 1080P60 165 Wide Angle Dashboard Camera, Car DVR Vehicle Dash Cam with G-Sensor, Mobile APP, WDR, Loop Recording, Grey https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C89GCHU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Zs.PCb7T86K8A

This is the one I got

@indigo coral

[indigo coral]

Thanks!

[shadow osprey]

Going to the DC auto show tomorrow

Well, today technically

Hoping to get some nice pics, I'll be sure to report back

[fathom socket]

look forward to it

Cam installed

[stoic ledge]

That cam looks familiar 👀

https://tweakers.net/ext/f/Lt2qnwcHqFzvVcfyM4Ug2b8j/full.jpg

I did have a video with some example clips (day/night/rain/fog) but it was taken down due to copyright claims (music in the background)

[warm sparrow]

why do you have a camera @stoic ledge ?

[stoic ledge]

Because people can't drive, so I can prove it wasn't my fault if something happens

And, to put some videos on YouTube

[warm sparrow]

so u can use vids for insurance?

i think here you can't use it legaly

[stoic ledge]

Yeah we can if we want to

It's legal here to drive with a dashcam

According to my #awesome google skillz it's not illegal in France, and it can be used for insurance/legal reasons

[fathom socket]

in some places in america it is unlawful to record sound apparently without consent. the rules havent really been updated for dash cams. they do have rules on placement though. I wish I placed mine a little lower but thanks to it being 3m sticky stuff i cant pull it off easily.

[warm sparrow]

welp I don't know, seems that it's ok for insurance

but it's illegal to film public places i think

[stoic ledge]

Mine is right behind the mirror so it won't block my view

[warm sparrow]

for example if you have cameras at home it should not have the street in its sight

[stoic ledge]

Publicing the videos CAN be illegal

[warm sparrow]

of course

but even what i said

[stoic ledge]

There is no specific law against dashcam, so if somebody has a conplaint it has to be under the privacy law

[warm sparrow]

yee

[stoic ledge]

Tbh I think dashcams should be mandatory like in Russia, can solve a lot of disputes

[warm sparrow]

yee

in case a tank cross the road coming from nowhere

mother russia

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[indigo coral]

[jovial mauve]

@stoic ledge u alive

[stoic ledge]

@jovial mauve no

[jovial mauve]

Yikes

[indigo coral]

I have all the weirdest damn problems

[zenith osprey]

Poor 240

[jolly pulsar]

Oh hey, there's a cars bit. Awesome.

Also, that pic above.... damn that's going to hurt when they come back down.

[fathom socket]

Say goodbye to that suspension boys.

👋

[stoic ledge]

@jovial mauve what's up 😛

[tropic silo]

@warm sparrow recording video of a public space is completely fine, atleast in The Netherlands it is.

[indigo coral]

For the most part they're legal in the US, except you have to "legally notify" passengers in your car if it records audio

Aka it's fine 😂

[stoic ledge]

Lol most people don't even notice I have one so

[indigo coral]

Some cops here are dicks

[tropic silo]

NL just rules :)

[warm sparrow]

@tropic silo i'm not in NL

[tropic silo]

But i am!

😄

[jolly pulsar]

But Colin, don't you guys have outrageous taxes on any kind of large engined, personal use car there?

I feel like someone who I know lives there was telling me that a Mustang was something like $100k new, after taxes?

(Maybe it wasn't that much, but I remember being shocked how much it actually was)

[stoic ledge]

Yes we have

Due to BPM, which is basically a tax based on CO2 emissions

It starts from €70k for a 2.3 EcoBoost, V8 starts from €111k

[jovial mauve]

@stoic ledge the golf is gone 😮

[stoic ledge]

Which is like $125k

@jovial mauve is it stolen 😮

[jovial mauve]

haha no i sold it

[stoic ledge]

Because that happens a lot with those Golfs

Ah

Nice

So, what's next ?

[jovial mauve]

idk yet

been looking at the new a35

or maybe import c43

idk tbh

[stoic ledge]

Get a new Dacia Sandero in base trim xD

[jolly pulsar]

MK, ah man that makes my balls shrivel up. I drive a C63 and people here in the UK tell me that it must be so expensive to tax each year @ £500. They don't have a clue. In Ireland, where I'm from, the wagon would be €2500 a tear in tax.

C43's rule. Estate or saloon?

[stoic ledge]

£500 a year? Damn

That's about what I pay for my Corsa

€55/month

(€660/year)

[jolly pulsar]

Yep, cars are cheap as hell to run in the UK compared to lots of other European countries. Insurance wouldn't usually be bad either, but being young, in a city and with no proof of claim free driving means I get shafted.

[stoic ledge]

Well yeah but all young drivers get shafed on Insurance

[jolly pulsar]

This is true :/

[indigo coral]

You know, it's funny, People around here (myself included) complain about how expensive cars are to run, but around here its about as cheap as it gets

[stoic ledge]

People in the US: "omg fuel prices are high"
But compared the here it is really cheap 😛

[indigo coral]

yeah

[viral matrix]

The tax on my mondeo is 400€/year, insurance is about 250€/year

Fuel is expensive though

[stoic ledge]

€660/year tax, €950/year Insurance (which is actually quite cheao for a young driver), and fuel well it runs on LPG which is fine

[viral matrix]

The car isn't under my name yet, that's why the insurance is still pretty cheap

That's about to change soon

[stoic ledge]

Gas/petrol is like €1.65-1.70/liter for regular, which is $7-7.50/gallon xD

[viral matrix]

The insurance was about 650€/year for 19y/o

[fair bronze]

Did someone say Corsa

[jolly pulsar]

MK, what's 98 octane unleaded priced per litre in NL? It's about £1.35/€1.55 here

[stoic ledge]

Yeah my insurance is also this "cheap" because it's registered on my mums name with me as driver

Corsa FTW

[jolly pulsar]

And can you get 100 octane?

[stoic ledge]

Uhm let me check

We can get 102

[jolly pulsar]

Ugh, suuuuupppeeerrrrr jealous

[stoic ledge]

95 98 and 102

[fair bronze]

Are you a chav too

[indigo coral]

holy shite - my insurance is 1600 USD a year

[stoic ledge]

102 only in certain pumps

[viral matrix]

98 octane is about 1.45-1.6€ for a liter here

[indigo coral]

on a slow old RX300

[viral matrix]

The insurance is cheap on mondeos, because they're pretty cheap, common and safe cars

[stoic ledge]

98 is like €1.90/liter

[viral matrix]

oof

[jolly pulsar]

That's not too bad I think falconhand, but then maybe I would have expected it to be even cheaper. My C63 is £3,300 a year ffs.

[fair bronze]

I didn't know Citroën makes a C63 now

[jolly pulsar]

Ouch, MK that's a lot. Gotta be proper rich to own a large engine in NL I guess.

[stoic ledge]

Yes

That's why all dutchies drive small cars with small engines

[fair bronze]

Even though we they are the tallest people

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[jolly pulsar]

Still, stuff like the new Alpine A110 must be (kinda) reasonable then?

[stoic ledge]

I was just about to say that

[fair bronze]

Tax isn't related to engine size though

[stoic ledge]

Alpine A110 is like €65k (?)

CO2 emissions

Basically

[fair bronze]

And weight

CO2 only for purchasing a new car

Road tax goes by weight

[stoic ledge]

Yeah value (21% VAT) + CO2 (BPM) on purchase, based on weight every month

[jolly pulsar]

Yeah, same here and in Ireland. I just always think in terms of engine size, and to be fair it's usually a strong correlation between engine size and CO2 emissions. I can't think of many (any?) real anomalies, like 4l engines with 130g/km CO2.

Although actually wait I suppose hybrids screw it up don't they?

[fair bronze]

Well it highly depends on the car

[stoic ledge]

Well the more fuel a car uses, the higher CO2 emissions

[fair bronze]

My dad used to own a Kia Picanto which did a disappointing 14 km/l while his Saab does 16 km/l

1.0l small car vs 1.8l mid size sedan

[stoic ledge]

Every liter of fuel gas/petrol produces about 2.3kg of CO2

Yeah well depends on driving style, city vs motorway driving, but small engines are not always better

Sometimes they have to work to hard while a bigger engine barely has to work

[fair bronze]

No but he did the exact same thing with them

It was just weird how the fuel economy was that terrible

[indigo coral]

What fails to amaze me is that people my age drive around in 90s corvettes and mustangs and stuff - and have cheaper insurance than me, even with their previous wrecks and stuff.

While I have a slow old granny car 😂 (and a perfect driving record)

[stoic ledge]

I get just 12.3km/l, but LPG so hey not bad xD

[fair bronze]

Insurance rates make no sense whatsoever

[jolly pulsar]

Amen to that.

[fair bronze]

Is it an old Corsa?

[stoic ledge]

MY2012 (12/2011)

[fair bronze]

Engine size? If I missed it

[indigo coral]

I get 7.2 km/l lol

[stoic ledge]

1.2 16v

But, Bi-Fuel

[fair bronze]

Yeah that's all LPG lol

[stoic ledge]

(LPG)

Fuel efficiënt driving on LPG is not possible

[fair bronze]

Fuel economy gets worse but it's cheaper

[stoic ledge]

Especially if you refuel in 🇧🇪 (:

[fair bronze]

Haha

[jolly pulsar]

Heh, I (shamefully) have you beat falcon. I reckon I get about 5km/l in the city, about double that with highway driving.

[stoic ledge]

[fair bronze]

If you live close to the border, totally worth it

[stoic ledge]

I'm 400 meters away from the border, + I'm in 🇧🇪 almost every day xD

[fair bronze]

Cool stuff

[stoic ledge]

(I study in Belgium)

[zinc pulsar]

i've got a street legal drag car in the states, i don't daily it, so i wont count it. but still. gas isn't sipped, it's drained somewhere. haven't found the fuel leak though >.>

[fair bronze]

I live in the middle of the country

[stoic ledge]

Who needs a drag race car when you can have 0-60 in 14 seconds

[fossil imp]

😩

[fair bronze]

Is that mph or kmh 😁

[stoic ledge]

0-60 mph / 0-100 kph

0-60 kph in 14s... Yeah no

[fair bronze]

Not like anyone ever does that anyway

[fossil imp]

0-62 is where its at

[stoic ledge]

0-62.1371192 is where its at

Well I have to use all prancing horses under the hood/bonnet every day to keep up with traffic xD

[fathom socket]

Get some +7 horsepower stickers, guaranteed to make your car feel more powerful

[stoic ledge]

Well I do have sport seats, sport pedals, a sport exhaust and a sport suspension, but it won't matter

[indigo coral]

rip my car about had a heart attack today when i floored it

[fair bronze]

F

[fathom socket]

F

I don't have a car, I just have my legs

[jolly pulsar]

I have a car but don't have my legs. Trade?

[stoic ledge]

[fossil imp]

its a trap

hes drunk not without legs

[jolly pulsar]

Nope, literally have no legs 😂

[fossil imp]

😮

[stoic ledge]

😮

[fossil imp]

ex military?

[jolly pulsar]

Nah, civilian, although coz I'm young most people think serviceman. Got hit by a drunk driver, pinned into a wall. It happens, no biggie.

[fossil imp]

jesus

sorry dude

[fathom socket]

Jesus

[jolly pulsar]

ahaha, no worries.

[fossil imp]

still its not all bad, u get to sitdown all day

sorry 😃

[jolly pulsar]

Not all that many downsides, although I am stuck with auto only cars now. That is sad.

[fathom socket]

Oof

[jolly pulsar]

Can't stub my toe. Can't step on LEGO or plugs. Get to wear shorts 24/7. My fg doesn;t have to put up with cold feet in bed and so on ahaha

[fathom socket]

Have the clutch be moved close to the steering wheel

[fossil imp]

lol

[jolly pulsar]

Paddle clutch on the steering wheel is a goer for track use, but would be illegal in the UK on the road. Tight restrictions here.

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

Wow, didn't know that that was illegal in the UK

[fossil imp]

theres no logic in the UK

when rules come into play

[jolly pulsar]

Yeah, almost sure it would be. You'd be trying to do too much with your hands when pulling away for it to be safe.

Throttle, steering and clutch. Not enough limbs innit

Now, I'll admit I haven't actually checked, but I'm willing to bet all the money I have the DVLA would say no.

[fair bronze]

Oh damn, your username doesn't lie

At least there are many ways to help you live a normal life nowadays

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I misread his username, iegless instead of Legless 😛 😂

[jolly pulsar]

Aye, if you can afford the top prosthetics at $250k a set....

[fathom socket]

Jesus

[stoic ledge]

Damn

[fathom socket]

That's like a good house in some places

[jolly pulsar]

Okay, that's me being a little economical with the truth. You can get an adequate set for about $40/50k, and in the UK the NHS will often pay for those. But for a double, like me, there are quite a few things that the top set do offer and yes, they are that expensive.

[fathom socket]

Oof

[jolly pulsar]

Yup. Don't be disabled kids, it's expensive.

*disabled, kids, it's

[stoic ledge]

Lool xD

[lime copper]

[fossil imp]

??

i like the way he has embraced it

[jolly pulsar]

I don't think I'm banned....

Yep, still here lol

[fossil imp]

probably for someone else

😐

[stoic ledge]

Wasn't me

[lime copper]

You guys don't get sarcasm easily...

[fathom socket]

I thought it was real, it was sudden

[jolly pulsar]

I mean, if it wasn't a mod making that joke ahaha

[fathom socket]

Lul

[stoic ledge]

[jolly pulsar]

The mod badge adds extra gravitas I feel

[lime copper]

That's a banana, not a badge.

[fathom socket]

the role

it's a different color lol

[stoic ledge]

Hotpink ftw

[fossil imp]

sarcasm, sure

[tropic silo]

I just decided to keep flooring it in my car even tho the fuel light came on and only had 2 liters left 😄

I'm a good driver

[stoic ledge]

I had 1.3 liters left in my tank the other day

Luckily i have a backup tank xD

[tropic silo]

I don't think i have

And I'm sure i don't want to find out by trail and error

[stoic ledge]

Backup for a LPG car == gas/petrol xD

[tropic silo]

🤔

[fossil imp]

i own a subaru so drive around on fumes mostly

[tropic silo]

I'm a brick, I'm stoopid

[stoic ledge]

How can you drive a Subaru? I thought they were always in the shops

@tropic silo hi brick

[tropic silo]

They drive it to and from the shop

[fair bronze]

Head gasket failure

[tropic silo]

Hi @stoic ledge

[stoic ledge]

[fair bronze]

Otherwise they're pretty reliable

[tropic silo]

[stoic ledge]

But, you do know a LPG car has both a petrol and a LPG tank, don't you ?

[tropic silo]

Im stoopid

[fair bronze]

Just put it all in the same tank, who cares

[stoic ledge]

[tropic silo]

I put Euro 95 in the tank 😄

[stoic ledge]

LPG + 98 because E10 is bad m'kay

[tropic silo]

Aka the one that makes my car move 😄

[tropic silo]

Summer is gonna be fun 😄

Im gonna drive to Amsterdam, The Hague, Efteling and all kinds of other things down in the Netherlands 😄

[fair bronze]

Be careful when parking

[tropic silo]

Huh?

Why?

[fair bronze]

Expensive in the big cities

[tropic silo]

I know

[fair bronze]

Alrighty

[tropic silo]

But the petrol will also be expensive 😅

[fair bronze]

It's decent now for our standards

[stoic ledge]

In 🇳🇱 ? Never!

[fair bronze]

Used to be almost €2 per liter a while ago

[tropic silo]

I payed 1.65 per liter

[fossil imp]

lol

[tropic silo]

And got me some Freebees

[fair bronze]

lmao

[fossil imp]

ok ive had 5 scoobs, not one has had an issue

[stoic ledge]

€0.390 last time I refueled 👀

[fossil imp]

all modded

so yea

[stoic ledge]

[tropic silo]

Wat

0.39

[fair bronze]

Yeah for LPG

[stoic ledge]

I did refuel once for €0.239/liter

Good times

(summer 2016)

[fair bronze]

Petrol in Tenerife was like €0,95 last year

That was amazing already

[stoic ledge]

nice

[fair bronze]

Diesel is actually more expensive there

Not by much but still

[stoic ledge]

Diesel is also more expensive in Belgium

[fair bronze]

Hmm

I'm never in Belgium

[stoic ledge]

Been there today so

xD

And tomorrow. And the day after tomorrow. And the day after that. And even the day after that.

[tropic silo]

Righty dighty

[stoic ledge]

@tropic silo did you convince your parents to 1.8 Turbo swap the A2? 😛

[tropic silo]

Sadly nope

BUT!

I did convince them into allowing me to go to a tunershop!

[stoic ledge]

Nice 😄

[tropic silo]

I hope i can get it done before juni 10

[idle cargo]

well i have now 1 week remaining till my 3e atempt at getting that pink slip

[tropic silo]

That pink slip?

[stoic ledge]

Drivers license

Atleast that's what he meant

[idle cargo]

yes

its pink here

i'll have 2 lessons ahead of time but still

failed 2e with the 2e time getting me into al sorts of trubble

[tropic silo]

Yes Dutch license is pink?

[idle cargo]

yes