cars

[stoic ledge]

Well there is an overlap between the truck and the trailer 😉

[shadow osprey]

I know, that's still tiny lol

[stoic ledge]

Well yeah but that's the legal max throughout entire Europa 😛

In the Netherlands, only at night you can drive longer trucks on highways

[proven gull]

The Clio V6 is beautiful

[warm sparrow]

You

You are from europe right?

[vital glen]

@stoic ledge only at night

lol

[stoic ledge]

@vital glen looks like they changed it now, but you still can't drive them everywhere

It's called an "ecocombi" for some reason, because it can haul more in once -> eco friendly (or a "LZV" which stands for "Long heavy vehicle")

Anyway, they can be max 83ft long (25.25m), they can only drive on certain roads (highways), are banned to drive through the rain, need to have multiple safety equipment on board and require a special license.

They look like this:
https://www.ttm.nl/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/20160623-151544-1751-low-1024x683.jpg

[vital glen]

intereszting

[simple pawn]

Any mechanics here that can help with a code

[tall kiln]

What code

what car

did you try google first

[warm sparrow]

damn that game looks good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRghw0nG-sM

😄

[shadow osprey]

Lol apparently those links aren’t allowed. Those are called LCVs or long combination vehicles in the US. The typical double is called an STAA double or double pup (cause it’s the smallest normal double trailer).

There’s longer doubles and triples, but you don’t really see them unless you’re hauling something pretty specific

[visual escarp]

the combination MK posted is quite rare tbf, usually it is a combo of one long and 1 short trailer

[indigo coral]

I see the double long trucks all over the place on the interstate. Not sure of the exact length of course.

[tall kiln]

The only doubles I see round here are for gravel and things of that nature

My dad said doubles arent really used bc you only gain marginal room for supplies and what not

[civic spoke]

25.25 meters is a common length here in Sweden.

They are allowed to be up to 64 tonnes. 74 on certain stretches, and with an additional axle.

[shadow osprey]

Yeah there’s a bunch of regulations on axles and weights in the states. You see a lot of lift axles on flat beds and such

[civic spoke]

You lift them up when you're not hauling stuff. Or when you might need the extra traction on the driven wheels.

Less wear and better fuel economy.

I'll be doing my first practice driving on Monday.

[vital glen]

wait, you don't drive? @civic spoke

[civic spoke]

Getting a license to drive those.

[vital glen]

commercially I assume

[civic spoke]

Yeah.

CDL it's called in America? I think.

[vital glen]

yeah

it is

[civic spoke]

But there are heaps of stuff that you have to get before you can drive 12+ tonne trucks here.

[vital glen]

I can drive a 12tonne truck rn

with reg license

[civic spoke]

You require a proof of work competence for it over here to boot.

Requires you to go a 140 hour course that goes over everything from economy, to health and stuff.

[vital glen]

what

All you need to know is how to drive and some other stuff

[civic spoke]

130 hours in the classroom, 10 behind the wheel.

[vital glen]

that is some

[civic spoke]

We are also required to have a driving card when driving them.

Keeps track of the driven hours, your breaks, and such.

We're been at this for... 7 weeks now? And only just now am I getting to drive.

The work competence is basically done, just need the hours driven, and then I need to do the test for it.

60 questions. And you need 80% or better.

Well, 65 questions. But 5 of those don't count.

And you have 50 minutes to do it.

[stoic tendon]

Glassbomb only 60 (65) ... we had 130 questions 50 minutes, 95% minimum for normal car.
Also 150 questions (yet 20 more, the rest was repeatable) 95% minimum for Trucks and other of those big guys.
and don't ask me how may questions we had for Driving license on bus here (europe Czech republic).
And yeah we had to do it twice... all perfectly 100% ...
One for driving licence, another for professional driving license (100%) (otherwise I cannot have it as a job..)
And yet its still not enought 😄 the professional part are repeatable each two years ... (one wrong answer insta loose of professional card till you do it 100%) ..
Oh and then, you see the crashes on the road what pro-drivers do and asking yourself, what the heck xD

[proven gull]

Beautiful Supra

[shadow osprey]

Is that a gen 1?

[fossil imp]

yea

[proven gull]

It's second

A60

[shadow osprey]

Yes you're right

Forgot the first gen was like old nissan looking

[vital glen]

@shadow osprey mk2

[tall kiln]

Why is car eating tire

[indigo radish]

the car is hungry

[fossil imp]

thats from a topgear ep, where the stig lost it

[carmine summit]

A60 is best Supra

fight me if you think otherwise

[vapid raptor]

Finally got the project completed: retrofitting halogen headlights with the Bi-Xenon/LED Haols.

[vital glen]

@vapid raptor are you the beemer guy

I mean the beemer guy

[vapid raptor]

Yes, I've had a couple of them in a row now. (Pic of my previous '07 Z4) Actually, I'm what you might call a fan of 'topless Germans' 😂

For a very brief time before the Z4, I had an '08 e93 335i Conv but that had a head issue that forced me to sell it quickly.

[vital glen]

A) rip your wallet

b) don't be that guy

[vapid raptor]

I'm so much happier with the 2-Series vert. More room, less bone crushing jarring over pavement imperfections, and more hp

[vital glen]

@vapid raptor here is the true test

how many doors does a coupe have

[vapid raptor]

2, no matter what bmw or Mercedes thinks about the 4-door coupe

[shadow osprey]

:lul:

[odd talon]

your 2 series is still rwd, right?

[vapid raptor]

Yes. It's the legacy of the old 3-Series

[stoic ledge]

Oncomimg 2 series will be FWD 😅

2 series Active Tourer is allready FWD

(so is the X1 and X2)

[civic spoke]

New 1 series will also be FWD based.

[vital glen]

@vapid raptor you are not the beemer guy, thank god

@stoic ledge the x lineup is doodoo, and look the market demands the use of fwd sedans and coupes

[vapid raptor]

As far as I know, the 2-Series coupe will still be RWD; the four door 2-Series 'Grand Coupe' will be fwd

[civic spoke]

I wonder if the next generan M2 will be RWD still.

Or if it's taking the same path as the rest of the M cars.

Would the 2 series Gran Coupe be a similar size to the E46?

Kind of makes me think that way.

[stoic ledge]

@vital glen they did a research here once, over 80% didn't know their 1 series was RWD.

1 series is small on the inside, and since only the minority knows it's RWD they will just make it FWD, which created more space on the inside and is cheaper to build.

[vital glen]

@stoic ledge lmao that is great

[shadow osprey]

For the record, it’s spelled bimmer

[shell kernel]

Linus Pink lambo in Forza Horizon

[formal raptor]

https://i.redd.it/kqdq21h9t4o21.jpg

never noticed how similar they were

[shadow osprey]

Side profile of a white vehicle with white out wheels and a white background in low quality. No duh they’re gonna look the same 😂

They’re all mid size SUVs

[fathom socket]

Any love for mini trucks? Toyota pickup came into the shop.

Had bad tire wear though

[shadow osprey]

I love me some mini truck

Looks pretty nice from the one pic

Get more pics lol

[heady ridge]

who in hell puts lowered springs and low profiles on a pick up

[shadow osprey]

You've clearly never been around the car scene xD

[heady ridge]

rather not that one

the one where the 4wd system is used is much better

[shadow osprey]

What if it's a 2wd truck?

There are actually a couple lowered duallies in my area, they're all pretty damn good looking. Two Chevys and a Ford I think

You can't tell me that doesn't look sexy af

[heady ridge]

that just looks bloody wrong

[shadow osprey]

lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯

To each their own

[warm sparrow]

This looks like poop

[shadow osprey]

Whatever 😂

[warm sparrow]

Ye

[warped tendon]

i mean it could be worse it could be lifted 3 feet lol

[warm sparrow]

It can always be worst

Doesn't mean it's nice tho

[carmine summit]

lowered duallies are sweet

[civic spoke]

Practice drove with the truck today.

23 tonnes of thicc boi.

[warm sparrow]

this inspires me for some mama jokes

[vernal mortar]

that is a mean truck

[warm sparrow]

but it's not nice to talk about moms

[vernal mortar]

more of a jdm fan tho

[vital glen]

@shadow osprey that doesn't

Jt looks wrong

[shadow osprey]

do you know how to grammar?

What doesn't? 😂

[patent basalt]

I gotta stop this cheap bmw stuff lmao no Matter how nice of cars I have these trash bimmers get to me 😂

[shadow osprey]

Turn it into a drift car

[fathom socket]

Welp 300mph is a real thing I'm surprised the tires that can go on public roads didn't blew up from that speed

[shadow osprey]

Well they're DOT registered so...

[warm sparrow]

There's a lot of dust on this charger

[indigo coral]

I keep trying to convince my parents to get a 90s BMW or something that I can learn stick in/have some fun with

[stoic ledge]

You want something but instead of getting is yourself, you try to convince your parents to buy it

[night current]

Ehhhh, can't blame him.

Unless he has the money

[vital glen]

@indigo coral you really hate yourself

[indigo coral]

Why?

A cheap car is good to learn stick in

[vital glen]

It's not anways cheap to maintain

And it is not even on your dollar

[indigo coral]

True, may not be super cheap to keep up.

The only car we have that's stick is a 1966 Bronco, which is quite a handful to drive

[vital glen]

Then learn it on it

[stoic ledge]

@night current well if I want something, I work for it so I can afford it 😛

[ivory bloom]

It's always fun when you have to repair the brakes on a van and the front and back use two different kinds of brakes Drum and Disc

[stoic ledge]

My car is the same 😛 Drums in the rear, discs in de front

[carmine summit]

yeah that's pretty standard

front drums are awful but drums in the rear make sense because they're cheap to make

[stoic ledge]

True, but also discs all round aren't always necessary, since most stopping power is needed/generated in the front

[carmine summit]

yep

[indigo coral]

I'm pretty sure I have all discs. Though I need to replace rotors soon.

[patent basalt]

It’s not dust anymore lol

[fathom socket]

Is that the Challenger or Hellhound?

[civic spoke]

I'll be doing more practice driving tomorrow. Not sure what we'll go through then.

[warm sparrow]

ah yea challenger not charger

sorry

[patent basalt]

Just an R/T

I’m poor

[fathom socket]

It's still beautiful with that cherry red though. @patent basalt

[fathom socket]

Rip Dodge vipers :/

My friend has the first generation with 755 miles in it

[fathom socket]

@fathom socket it would be hellcat not hound

[shadow osprey]

My uncle let me borrow his 02 civic for like 2 weeks, that's what I learned stick on

[patent basalt]

@fathom socket it’s orange hard to see in some lighting the garage makes it look red lol

[fathom socket]

@patent basalt big engines 💪💪💪

[night current]

Hot damn

That's fockin' fancy

[midnight peak]

You guys like motorbikes?

[idle cargo]

i like my gs500

and my cb750's k6's

[civic spoke]

We talked, and tried eco driving today.
Truck used around 34-35 L/100 km when I drove with it. So 6.8 MPG-ish.

[stoic ledge]

Well it's a lorry 😛 Those numbers are quite normal

[civic spoke]

Yeah. They want us to get around, or below 33 for the actual driving test later.

[stoic ledge]

Really, do they? Didn't know that 😛

[fathom socket]

@midnight peak i love them

Gotta be at least 1k cc tho

Glassbomb, which engine do you have on your trucker?

[civic spoke]

@stoic ledge TL;DR of eco driving a HGV is baslly to always keep rolling.

It's a 12 litre something. Gotta check.

[fathom socket]

Jeez man

Its a TIR?

[civic spoke]

TIR?

[stoic ledge]

International Transport or something

So like a semi

[civic spoke]

I just think of the TIR Convention.

[fathom socket]

Yah

Its some shit in french

[fathom socket]

Cuz they the big shots in europe

Or at least they think they are

[civic spoke]

Scania R450LB

[fathom socket]

Kewl

Yeah, it’s related to the tir convention

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TIR_Convention

[civic spoke]

Totally different thing, that.

[stoic ledge]

12.7L engine according to my Google skillz 😛

[fathom socket]

Ik, you’re a class 3 truck

Tir is a class 4

"Transports Internationaux Routiers" or "International Road Transports" - wikipedia

[civic spoke]

TIR is so that you only have to toll it once. And then you're free to travel to the destination you're going to.

[fathom socket]

Yeah but it serves as a class of trucks

My hs friend is a truck driver

You guys get paid af

🤑

[civic spoke]

Yeah, I know. I think you're required to have a good enough truck to run TIR stuff.

I still haven't gotten my C card. Really want to get CE as well when the time comes.

Already managed to get a license to transport dangerous goods. 👀

ADR - An even better thing that also comes from the French.

[stoic ledge]

Lol you've got a license to transport dangerous goods but not the license to drive the vehicle itself

Nice

[civic spoke]

Working on the latter part. That's what I'm doing here in school.

Need a proof of work competence and stuff, too.

[fathom socket]

Msg me when you’re transporting something radioactive af

Jk jk

[civic spoke]

Can't do that. You require a speciffic license for that.

[fathom socket]

Uranium oxide 😀

Oh, so you can only transport women

[civic spoke]

I have the general + Explosives license.

[fathom socket]

They’re the most dangerous goods

Oh explosives

Me likie

[stoic ledge]

Explosives

[fathom socket]

CIA don’t worry I’m not a terrorist

Just a nuclear scientist

[civic spoke]

We also got a forklift license and everything. But I want to expand that, so that I'm allowed to operate all A+B forklifts.

[fathom socket]

With a degree in mechanical

[stoic ledge]

Who needs licenses, just drive without them 😅

(jk ofc)

[fathom socket]

Well tried that

Not a good idea

[civic spoke]

Fun fact. Our lorries are allowed to be taller than yours. 👀

They normally build them to a maximum of 4.5 m

[stoic ledge]

I have driven a Daf XF Supercab once a couple of blocks without a license 😅 But is was at a quiet industrial area, so no worries

Lol can they

[civic spoke]

General hight limit for mainland Europe is 4 m

[stoic ledge]

Not sure how high they can be here, lemme check

[fathom socket]

I love big engines

Dw, its not to compensate for the 👇

Achem

[stoic ledge]

That's what they all say

You're right @civic spoke , can't be over 4 meters

[fathom socket]

But the ones who say that are compensating

[civic spoke]

Reading about all of this for over 7 weeks is paying off. 😆

[fathom socket]

Glassbomb, you from the usva?

[civic spoke]

Sweden.

[stoic ledge]

Sweden if I recall correct

Ah

^^

[fathom socket]

You mk?

[stoic ledge]

The Netherlands

[fathom socket]

Portugal me

Yay

XD

[stoic ledge]

[civic spoke]

Btw, ADR (Dangerous Goods) is short for "Accord européen relatif au transport international des marchandises Dangereuses par Route"

[fathom socket]

I live in another continent tho

French again 🤮

[civic spoke]

Yupp.

UN Standard, tho.

[fathom socket]

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

I’m sick already

The French girls are freaky tho

Ufffff

Maybe that’s why its the standard

So when they let the hoes in

They all understand eachother

[stoic ledge]

🤔

[fathom socket]

How do I know that

🙄😶😇

[stoic ledge]

I'm wondering the same

[fathom socket]

Get the girls from france, Czech Republic and Austria. Dope from holland aka the NETHERlands. Beer from germany and we got a party

Quite a party

[stoic ledge]

Holland 👀

Belgian beer is good too ^

[fathom socket]

True

Holland is a better name than the netherlands

Why did you guys change name?

[stoic ledge]

Holland is only 2 provences of the 12 provences

[midnight peak]

@fathom socket What bike would you suggest for someone who's totaaaally new to bikes, no experience with dirtbikes, only drove a 50cc Tomos once

What's like a good bike to learn to ride and have some decent fun

[fathom socket]

How much cash do you have?

Mk, isn’t holland=the netherlands?

[midnight peak]

I'd like to keep the price under 3500€-4000€

[fathom socket]

Ohk, give me a min

I gotta check some prices

[midnight peak]

k thank

[fathom socket]

I would look in the 750cc tho

Its like the basic bike to learn

[midnight peak]

isn't that a bit too big?

[fathom socket]

Not too much powaah but got some juice

[midnight peak]

more torque?

[fathom socket]

Honestly, I don’t even need to check

Get a yamaha mt-07

Normal or tracer

What ever tingles your pickles

[civic spoke]

750cc is a decent everyday bike.

[fathom socket]

This is a Portuguese site

But check the prices

https://www.standvirtual.com/motos/yamaha/mt-07/?search[filter_enum_damaged]=0&search[new_used]=all

[midnight peak]

wow that's a recommendation I never saw coming.... Most places I looked suggested something like a ninja 250/300

[fathom socket]

And everything’s more expensive in Portugal

Nah

[civic spoke]

The FZ/MT-07 is 👌

[fathom socket]

That’s much show no go bike roman

[stoic ledge]

@fathom socket that's what people outside Europe often think but it's not 😛 It's like calling the US "Texas" it's only a part of it 😛

But now we are getting off-topic xD

[fathom socket]

The topic is relative just like time jk jk

[stoic ledge]

Oof that's deep

[fathom socket]

I guess I had too many physics classes 😓

[civic spoke]

I look forward to next Friday. More driving then. 👀

[midnight peak]

is yamaha r3 also all show no go?

[civic spoke]

And then again on Tues/Thursday next week.

[midnight peak]

cos I also saw people recommending that for a first bike

[civic spoke]

I would say so? Most 300's are kinda so-so.

[fathom socket]

@midnight peak i had a mt-10 for everyday riding and its a very good bike for that

Really really goos

Good

The mt-07 or 09 is a great bike to learn

[civic spoke]

I'd try to get something with as much torque as possible.

[fathom socket]

So no stalling action

XD

[stoic ledge]

^ like a lorry? 😛

[civic spoke]

Aww yiss

[fathom socket]

I’m sorry btw mk

Ma bad

[stoic ledge]

No worries

[civic spoke]

The R450 has like 2350 Nm between 1,000~1,300 RPM

[stoic ledge]

I've only driven a 2007 XF 460, i don't know how much that has

[civic spoke]

Love the graphs for massive diesels.

[fathom socket]

XD

[stoic ledge]

Lolz

[fathom socket]

I love massive tits

[stoic ledge]

[civic spoke]

It only shows between 800 and 2,000 RPM to begin with.

[fathom socket]

Again, not compensating

[stoic ledge]

Again, that's what they all say

[fathom socket]

Xd

I was gonna send a nude i got yesterday but i dont wanna get a band 🤣

Ban*

( . ) ( . ) massive

[stoic ledge]

😂

Yeah I think that will get you banned 😛

[fathom socket]

Probably 🤩

[stoic ledge]

LTT doesn't have a nsfw channel

[fathom socket]

Xd

They should

Imma msg the mod

Would you agree?

[stoic ledge]

Lol you can always make the suggestion 😛

Not sure if they are going to allow it

[fathom socket]

I just msged momo

[stoic ledge]

It's in the rules xD

Like rule 2: No Nsfw

https://discordapp.com/channels/375436620578684930/375446800863330305/379019857955520512

[fathom socket]

Ok ok i get it

Would still be cool tho

[fossil leaf]

nah, won't happen

LTT wouldn't want to be responsible for managing it, making sure people are the appropriate age, making sure there's no content that crosses legal lines, etc

[stoic ledge]

^ that's what I was thinking too

[fathom socket]

1st post: linus’s vasectomy

😂😂😂😂🤣

[stoic ledge]

Oh gawd

Pls no

[fathom socket]

I would probably 🤢

🤮

[stoic ledge]

Maybe it's good we don't have a Nsfw topic

😛

[fathom socket]

Nah, it would be gucci

So, you guys into butt stuff?

[stoic ledge]

For some reason I've got the feeling we are getting kinda offtopic again 😛

[fathom socket]

Offtopic 💪💪

So, butt stuff or not?

😂

[stoic ledge]

😂

[fathom socket]

Need an answer man

Are we on the same side?

Are we

?

🧐

[stoic ledge]

Not sure I should answer that

[fathom socket]

You must

Guy on girl tho

I’m not into guys 🤜

Pound it?

[stoic ledge]

🤛

[fathom socket]

I was fearing for a sec

😶

[stoic ledge]

Anyway, back to cars? 😛

[fathom socket]

Yes, ass or rack?

In cars!!!

[stoic ledge]

Why not both (:

[fathom socket]

I fking love single exhausts

Lamborghini style

[stoic ledge]

My car has 1, single sport exhaust 😏 Not centered tho

The sport version has a centered exhaust 😉

[fathom socket]

Mine has two holes

🤤

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

Really

Which car is it?

Mini?

[stoic ledge]

Corsa D 😏

[fathom socket]

Google...

[stoic ledge]

Mini is too small for me, can't fit in it 😛

[fathom socket]

I died on the D 🤣

[stoic ledge]

That's what she said

Wait what

[fathom socket]

What

I drive a smart

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

Maybe to compensate

[stoic ledge]

That's Smart

[fathom socket]

It has a 8 inch gear lever

Matches me

😏

[stoic ledge]

Does it have those horrible slow automatic transmission

[fathom socket]

No, fast, quick and sturdy manual

Long lasting too

Wait what?

[stoic ledge]

What

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Opel_Corsa_D_OPC_rear.JPG

Centered exhaust for you 😉

[fathom socket]

Thats a big hole

[stoic ledge]

😏

[fathom socket]

High mileage?

[stoic ledge]

Probably

[fathom socket]

lamborghini exhaust

http://www.fi-exhaust.com/product/lamborghini/aventador_lp700_f1.html

Looks like a prolapse

[stoic ledge]

Oof yeah that's not gonna fit in a Corsa

[fathom socket]

How many hrsprs does it have?

[stoic ledge]

Mine or the blue one above ?

[fathom socket]

Both 😏

2k - 1800?

[stoic ledge]

Mine 83 😂
Blue one 192
Nurburgring Edition: 211

[fathom socket]

• -> minusb

• as in minus*

The ring one has twin exhausts tho

[stoic ledge]

Yeah true

[fathom socket]

I like how they put twins on an I

[stoic ledge]

It's thicc tho

[fathom socket]

I4 right?

[stoic ledge]

Especially in Henna Red 😍

Yeah 1.6T

I4

[fathom socket]

Turbo the fuck out of it and 200 hrsprs

Is it putting like what? 60 psi?

[stoic ledge]

I've got no idea tbh

Using psi > inferior

😉

[fathom socket]

Well, i was jking

60 would mean a pistol going 🚀

Piston

[stoic ledge]

1.2/1.3 bar apparently

So 18 psi if my calculations are correct

[fathom socket]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xLH45spyIvc

Yeah

Under 20 😏

Over 18 😏😏

That video is a must

😂🤣😂😂

Cut to 0:55

[stoic ledge]

Why tho

[fathom socket]

Trust me

😑

[stoic ledge]

I've seen it

Still: why tho

[fathom socket]

The piston going

Woooooooo

Im out

Byyyyyeeee

[stoic ledge]

Cya

[fathom socket]

Those guys are crazy man wtf

Talk to you never

😂

I’ve never seen a piston going so fast off the engine

@stoic ledge I’m not going

I was impersonating the piston

Xd

[stoic ledge]

Well seeing the mods they make, i'm not suprised

Yeah figured that out too xD

Just a bit late

[fathom socket]

🤦‍♂️

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

I’m joking

So, why the corsa?

Why not a focus

The focuses have a nice ass too

[stoic ledge]

a) It's my first car
b) For a first car it's allready quite expensive
c) I wanted a car on LPG
d) I like the design

Lol if I could afford a brand new RS

Also those Corsa's drive quite nicely, I've got the sport suspension 😏

With 83hp

[fathom socket]

Uuuu

So no spring action when ACHEM in the car

83 hrsprs in a small car is cool

[stoic ledge]

Nope not really

Well it moves

[fathom socket]

Like you haven’t done it yet pffffff

[stoic ledge]

Not quickly, but it does move

[fathom socket]

Gotta delete it xd

Ban incoming

😏

[stoic ledge]

😅

[fathom socket]

Best experience is in a bike

• everyone can watch 🤣

[stoic ledge]

in

[fathom socket]

I’ve done it in a scooter

🤣

A vespa actully

Actually

Big difference

[serene scarab]

My goldfish says that it's happy they're coming out with a smaller version of the Ford Colossus. Apparently the Ford Maximus is only going to be 2 stories tall and 2 lanes wide.

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

Ford f350?

[serene scarab]

Nah, years ago there was an SNL skit making fun of how big SUVs were getting in the early 2000s

[fathom socket]

Oh

[serene scarab]

This said, I've seen what counts as a mid-size truck today parked next to a full-size one from that era and it's amazing how big vehicles have gotten

A Volkswagen Polo is the size of a Volkswagen Golf from the early 2000s

And a Ford Ranger is the size of a Ford F150 from the early 2000s

[fathom socket]

@stoic ledge did you have to fold the seats?

Its to compensate

🤫

[stoic ledge]

Well yeah my Corsa is the same size as a 1999 Astra ^^^^

And kinda, you can slide/fold them forward since it's a 3 Doors @fathom socket

[fathom socket]

So it was a second row action, ok ok

I was talking about folding them back

To make a ‘bed’

[stoic ledge]

Ah, like that

No not gonna fit, i'm like 1m93

[fathom socket]

The best experience is in a suv 👌

[stoic ledge]

Not even gonna try that

[fathom socket]

An old gf had one and it was gucci

Omg i loved that car

For the wrong reasons

She had 🤑 money tho, i dont 😭

[stoic ledge]

R.I.P

[fathom socket]

Volvo xc90

10/10 expu

Experience

Yeah, she was

She just spent her paps money

Ho4life

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

Not ma style

As in the gurl

You too tall

[stoic ledge]

😏

[fathom socket]

Im 188 and I feel too tall sometimes

[stoic ledge]

Well Dutchies are known to be tall

[fathom socket]

True

[stoic ledge]

We do like to drive the smallest cars in Europe tho

Well not like to, but have to

[fathom socket]

😂

[stoic ledge]

Due to taxes

[fathom socket]

Taxes 🤣

I love you europe folk

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

I know man, i grew up in Port

Portugal

[stoic ledge]

When it comes to cars, The Netherlands is kinda the worst

[fathom socket]

Nah man

Portugal is the worst

How much do you pay per liter yearly tax?

[warm sparrow]

wut

[stoic ledge]

Per liter what ?

[fathom socket]

Like yearly tax to keep the plates on the car

I think its called iuc in Portugal

[warm sparrow]

you pay this? xD

[stoic ledge]

It's based on weight and fuel type over here

[warm sparrow]

wut

[stoic ledge]

Road tax probably

No ?

[warm sparrow]

i don't pay anything lol

[fathom socket]

Yeah

[warm sparrow]

i buy my car, pay the licence plate, insurance and go

[fathom socket]

Road tax price

[stoic ledge]

Lol I pay €55/month road tax, on a small Corsa

[fathom socket]

Thats cheap af

[warm sparrow]

I'm not sure what we are talking about lol

[fathom socket]

I remember th tax in Portugal was 180 on. 2 liter

Lloyd where are you from?

[stoic ledge]

There is no French Wikipedia page of it

So maybe it doesn't exist in France

180/month ?

[fathom socket]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dinheirovivo.pt/economia/galeria/esta-abrangido-pela-isencao-do-iuc-9/%3Famp=1

[warm sparrow]

it's probably included in government taxes

[fathom socket]

Translate it to English

[warm sparrow]

otherwise per month you only pay your fuel and insurance for the car

nothing else

[fathom socket]

Imposto Unico de Circulação

IUC

[stoic ledge]

1. Insurance
2. Tax
3. Fuel

[fathom socket]

Insurance, a lot and i mean a lot of taxes, fuel and more taxes

For example

A jeep trackhawk here costs around 100k

In Portugal purchase price is around 400k euros

100k dollars*

So ~300k of 0 km taxes

🤩😂😂🤣

[stoic ledge]

Ow damn, well we have CO2 taxes as well here, but not 300k

I can calculate it tho

Lemme chevl

Check*

[warm sparrow]

you can chevl, no worry

😃

[stoic ledge]

€110k emissions tax ^

Lol thnx Lloyd

Including taxes, a base Trackhawk is €237.155

[warm sparrow]

Oof

[fathom socket]

Thats cheap

🤣

[stoic ledge]

^ check France, Belgium or Germany

[fathom socket]

Keep in mind 80k here

Dollars

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I know

[fathom socket]

80k + extras

[stoic ledge]

Trackhawk is €120k in France

[warm sparrow]

120k + 10500€ eco malus

and the licence plate, oof

let me check

well about 3500€

weird

I thought it would be much worst

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

See, it’s cheap

😂

[stoic ledge]

So about 135k in total

[fathom socket]

I might pick 2 up tomorrow

[warm sparrow]

btf i didn't know this thing

pretty nice car

[fathom socket]

Its omg for me

I love it

Wish i had money for it

[warm sparrow]

though for this price (if i had half this money lol) i wouldn't buy this

an R35 is cheaper lol

[fathom socket]

I think I’ll but 7 with different colors, 1 for each day

[stoic ledge]

Btw I checked the Jeep.pt website, Trackhawk is not on there only the normal version so I compared those

Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 3.0 CRDI:
The Netherlands: €95420
Portugal: €91800

[fathom socket]

91k

Thats a great lie

[stoic ledge]

https://www.jeep.pt/configurador/grand-cherokee/#/version

[fathom socket]

Thats b4 taxes

Unfortunately

[stoic ledge]

Is it

Because our €95k price does include like €40k of taxes

[warm sparrow]

oof xD

[stoic ledge]

€45k to be exact

So the price before taxes is €50k

[warm sparrow]

it doesn't include the price of a perfect mitsubishi lancer evo

[fathom socket]

The small cherokee is 50k plus taxes here

It’s because you have lower import rates

[stoic ledge]

The Portugese price excluded IUC apparently

[fathom socket]

See

😑

I don’t even wanna see the taxes price chart

[warm sparrow]

you need some gilets jaunes to solve that problem

XD

[fathom socket]

Yes

Yes

Pls gimme

Gimme

[warm sparrow]

well you just need a gilet jaune

then you go in the street with signs

right some shit on it and walk

invite some friends also

[fathom socket]

I’m just here on vacation. I like in the us 🤠

In tx

[warm sparrow]

yea i would like it to

[fathom socket]

Where everything is cheap as dirt

[warm sparrow]

but i've never been 😢

not yet 😄

[fathom socket]

I was born in Portugal tho

Lived here til i was 19

Then, fk it im out

😂

My paps still live here tho

[warm sparrow]

seems so easy

[fathom socket]

Yeah but its not

Its pretty fking hard to get a greencard

It was easier cuz i went to college in the us

[warm sparrow]

neet

[fathom socket]

Yeah, tell that to my student debt

[warm sparrow]

xD

[fathom socket]

Maybe she’ll stop abusing me

[warm sparrow]

I'd love to go in the US but some things are way to different

I couldn't to it

[fathom socket]

It was quite a shot tho

Girls are like sluty af

[warm sparrow]

loool

[fathom socket]

It’s crazy

And its super normal

Different reality

But french girls do it better 😏😉

[stoic ledge]

But they can't drive stick...

[warm sparrow]

è_è

hey

[fathom socket]

Yeah, they got some trouble with sticks

I guess they just wanna suck it

[warm sparrow]

tf to you mean by driving stick lol

[stoic ledge]

😏

[warm sparrow]

what stick are you talking about XD

[fathom socket]

And thats a no go

Manual

[stoic ledge]

I meant a manual transmission

But you guys think dirty

[warm sparrow]

ah

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

Gear lever = stick

[warm sparrow]

but you're talking about american girls right MK?

[fathom socket]

Maybe 😏 mk

[stoic ledge]

Americans overall xD

[warm sparrow]

cause here we have mostly manual so... and girls just can't drive lol (joke)

[fathom socket]

Not me, i love stick. And no, thats not what she said

Lol

[stoic ledge]

I know most Europeans drive stick

Oof somebody got censored there

[fathom socket]

We had and have a saying in portugal

It sounds better in portuguese

[warm sparrow]

damn ltt's bot censored me

[fathom socket]

Mulheres ao volante perigo constante

[warm sparrow]

so i meant that's a bit g a y

[fathom socket]

English: women at the wheel, constant danger

Ltt bot is g a y

[warm sparrow]

we have something like this also in french

"Femme au volant, mort au tournant"

[stoic ledge]

Lolz

[fathom socket]

See 🤜

Mort

[warm sparrow]

it's something like "women drinving, death at the corner"

[fathom socket]

Death at the turn

Yeah

I know french thank you

[warm sparrow]

the turn yeah sorry for my noobiness

[fathom socket]

Mk, you know french too right?

We should talk in french

[warm sparrow]

he knows "baguette"

[fathom socket]

Oh

[stoic ledge]

No French pla

Pls*

I understand it

[warm sparrow]

je pisse dans le café que je donne à MK

[stoic ledge]

Don't like talking it

[warm sparrow]

afin de l'agrémenter d'un subtile goût

voilà as americans say sometimes lol

[stoic ledge]

Ok 😛

[warm sparrow]

but i think we are a bit of topic 🤔

[fathom socket]

ce serveur est une merde

Xd

[warm sparrow]

So, V12 you know, engines, wheels and stuff

Gasoline, turbo, PSI, chevrolet

[stoic ledge]

I4 ftw

[fathom socket]

And the bot censors everyone 🤬🤬

V12

V10

[warm sparrow]

that's not very kind vpereira

[fathom socket]

Spoilers

[warm sparrow]

heu

"pereira" that's a pretty cliche name lol

[fathom socket]

Shh lloyd

Why?

[warm sparrow]

because a lot of portuguese have this name here xD

I new some Pereira-s :p

[fathom socket]

It’s a general name

I’m vasco btw XD

Thats the V

v(asco)pereira

vpereira

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

Do you know any vascos?

🤔🧐🤨

[warm sparrow]

no 🤔

[fathom socket]

What about me 😧😦

[warm sparrow]

no

[stoic ledge]

no

[fathom socket]

😐

🤕🥴

😭😢

😫🥺

Anyone?

Pls

Pls

[warm sparrow]

stop spamming out of topic things

[fathom socket]

V12

Coilovers

32 cicles tri bypass

[warm sparrow]

exhaust

22" wheels

[fathom socket]

Rims

Rimjob

[warm sparrow]

blowj..

what?

no

[fathom socket]

As in a rim job

[warm sparrow]

i mean, engine

[fathom socket]

Like changing rims and painting them

[warm sparrow]

yeah

[fathom socket]

Like a paint job

[warm sparrow]

307 2.0 HDI 90

[fathom socket]

V8 bmw p64

🤤

63*

Google it

[warm sparrow]

Skyline GTR R32 😍

[fathom socket]

Its the racing engine of the bmw s63 twin turdo egine

Hot valley engine

I love them

You guys know hot-v right?

[stoic ledge]

2.0 HDI 90 will last forever

[warm sparrow]

1.6 iVTEC 160 🤤

[stoic ledge]

And I know a hot V yes 😏

[fathom socket]

3.0 liter toyota diesel will last longer 😛

[warm sparrow]

praise the 2L HDI 90

[fathom socket]

Mk, stop with the firl

Flirt

Jk jk

😏

[stoic ledge]

Well those 2.0 HDI's are almost bullet proof too

[warm sparrow]

it is

[fathom socket]

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general-pistonheads/what-is-a-hot-v-configuration-ph-explains/38096

[warm sparrow]

one time i shoot my engine with some p90 and it survived

it even worked better than before

[fathom socket]

P90 the gun?

[warm sparrow]

of course

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

It could be p90 jetfuel

For scramjets

That would blow your engine to pieces

Booooooooooom

[warm sparrow]

the only thing I know is that I like curry chiken sandwitches

[fathom socket]

In cars

So it’s not offtopic

[warm sparrow]

in or out no problem

[fathom socket]

I like puss

🤷‍♂️

[warm sparrow]

anyway can you give me 24299€ please

[fathom socket]

Problems Under Super

Ahhhhh

Solution

PUSS

[warm sparrow]

what's 24299€ considering your debt?

nothing

[fathom socket]

Yes, right away sirt

[warm sparrow]

so give it to me so i can by this beautiful lancer evo 9 😍

[fathom socket]

My bank would hire mercenaries to torture me

[warm sparrow]

not my concern

[fathom socket]

Some craft guys

You know craft right?

[warm sparrow]

mein kräft?

[fathom socket]

The American mercenary team who not actually but of course made the berlin terrorism attack

Allegedly they had nothing to do with it

[stoic ledge]

Why need 24299€

[fathom socket]

Everyone knows the did it

😂

They

Bur what counts is the proofs

So... no one cares

Are*

But

Butt

[warm sparrow]

for this beauty @stoic ledge (or another one, prices are aroung 25k) https://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/1538684916.htm/

[stoic ledge]

[warm sparrow]

butt? you really have a problem with this man

[fathom socket]

Why an evo?

[stoic ledge]

Why not

[warm sparrow]

because it's hot and it's great and i love it

[fathom socket]

Oki

I would pick an impreza

[warm sparrow]

no

impreza engine is hell

[fathom socket]

Jk, just tryna upset an evo guy

[warm sparrow]

i love sub but i will never own an impreza because of the engine

i'll probably never own an evo neither but yk

[fathom socket]

I love Toyotas sry

Not the supra tho

Thats too cliche

[warm sparrow]

if y had to choose, even if I prefer the look of sub, i'd buy an evo

[stoic ledge]

Lloyd loves the Supra Mk5

[warm sparrow]

i love old japanese cars that's all

[stoic ledge]

😅

[warm sparrow]

old and not so old

[fathom socket]

The new one?

[warm sparrow]

but just not the new "supra"

it's shit

no supra

fake vents, what a shame

[fathom socket]

The lt-1?

[stoic ledge]

You see he loves it

[warm sparrow]

it's not the IT-1

[fathom socket]

Or lr-1 or smthg like that?

[warm sparrow]

it's not

[fathom socket]

Ft-1*

Which one

[warm sparrow]

they took the general look of the concept and put it on a Z4 chassis

doesn't work

it's too small

[fathom socket]

Fake vents 🤮

Yeah

Z4*

[warm sparrow]

and it's a freakin BMW 🤢

[fathom socket]

🤮🤮🤮🤮

The new bmw engines are 🤮

Except the v8 p63, s63 and n63

Those are gucci

[vapid raptor]

N20 is life

[fathom socket]

I love off-road cars so..

Have an engine swapped land cruiser

[warm sparrow]

i want a 1996 civic type r

[fathom socket]

😍 lc

I love it

[vapid raptor]

The only thing wrong with the Z4 was how punishing it was driving over non-smooth roads

[fathom socket]

The z4 has a tiny engine

[warm sparrow]

i don't know i'm poor lol

[fathom socket]

Tiny tiny

[warm sparrow]

like your sitck?

[fathom socket]

@stoic ledge where you at?

[vapid raptor]

All that hp... Can't use it anywhere here

[stoic ledge]

Here

[warm sparrow]

@stoic ledge tabouret

[fathom socket]

Im 8 inches so not tiny

[stoic ledge]

Dude

[fathom socket]

Just puting it out there

[stoic ledge]

C'mon

[fathom socket]

Putting

[warm sparrow]

i was talking about your shift stick vpereira

[fathom socket]

He tackled me

I had to

Sry mom

@stoic ledge

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

Yes

Its 8 inches

The smart stick shift is 8 inches

Thats what i said

[stoic ledge]

[warm sparrow]

ok

[fathom socket]

I’m (my car is) 8 inches

😅

That was a noice save xd

[warm sparrow]

how do you fit in it?

it's a 1/20 scale or what?

[fathom socket]

The shifter lloyd

The stick

[warm sparrow]

you said your car

[fathom socket]

My car is 8 inches on the shifter

[stoic ledge]

Went to a car meet this sunday (just to get this back on topic)

[fathom socket]

Full phrase

[warm sparrow]

lol

never seen a car meet that boring

[fathom socket]

Nice yellow plates

[warm sparrow]

it's litteraly just a car meet

[stoic ledge]

Thnx Lloyd

[fathom socket]

Dont be mean lloyd

[stoic ledge]

Luckily you have an exiting Peugeot diesel

[warm sparrow]

that white car on the first image at the left is pretty dumb 🤔

[fathom socket]

Lol

[stoic ledge]

Thnx

[warm sparrow]

😃

[fathom socket]

I think it’s pretty cool

🤜

[stoic ledge]

🤛

[warm sparrow]

the blue 106 is nice

the red 405 also

[stoic ledge]

106 is a Rallye

No 305 tho

[fathom socket]

Rally prepped?

Rally prepped rallye?

[warm sparrow]

i can see a miata 🤔

[fathom socket]

That would sound so cool to say

[stoic ledge]

Rallye was a special trim

[warm sparrow]

but really nothing crazy in this car meet

[fathom socket]

I can see a 1 series

[stoic ledge]

Yeah no just from an online forum a car lovers meet

125i converible and M135i

[fathom socket]

Ik it’s a special trim

[stoic ledge]

There was also a Z3 Coupe and a 323i (US import)

[warm sparrow]

what's the point with yellow plates ??

[fathom socket]

But it would sound cool to say “ my 106 is rallye and rally prepped 😏”