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stoic ledge
jovial mauve
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Same lol

warm sparrow
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at least you have it

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and when you dont drive it you drive this big ass f150

stoic ledge
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I'd love to have a 3.5 EcoBoost F150 (:

midnight peak
carmine summit
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Aaaand electric cars are about to become the norm.

patent basalt
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Wel I have an f150 and a Chevy 2500 duramax lol

shadow osprey
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Interesting picks

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Anyone know a good site for buying used trailers? I've been trying to find a single car hauler for around a grand, but they basically don't exist in the mid atlantic

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Craiglist trailers is a shit show with all the repeat dealer ads

stoic ledge
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@magic arrow Great GLE review, the shots in the snow were beautiful!

Kinda strange Mercedes uses a Nexen tire as a spare tho 👀

mint talon
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Does anyone know much about turbo chargers

keen swallow
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what do you want to know?

mint talon
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okay so

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I am debating whether to keep my car N/A

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it is a straight 6 2.7L

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pushing ~300hp atm

shadow osprey
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bmw?

mint talon
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im looking at the 981 turbo kit

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cayman s 981 2014

shadow osprey
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Don't those use boxer engines?

mint talon
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nope!

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straight 6 in mine 😃

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the new one yes

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boxer 4 cylinder

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and yes, i have winter rims and winter drive it

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😃

shadow osprey
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9 grand holy shit

mint talon
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actually i'm looking at stage 2

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its 13k usd :p

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not sure if thats with cobbs

shadow osprey
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even more shit

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I mean what are you debating

mint talon
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okay so i am debating whether to keep it N/A or if a turbo charger is a good idea

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i haven't driven many porsches with turbos

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and i'm unsure how the lag would affect the drive

shadow osprey
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Well... you'd have all the power you have now until the charger spools

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stick will spool slightly faster than auto, doesn't matter that much though

fair bronze
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Porsche doesn't make a straight six, never has

mint talon
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flat 6

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my bad lol

fair bronze
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Yep

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Boxer

mint talon
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ah that is a boxer?

fair bronze
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You got it

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Nice car you have btw

mint talon
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ty, it is aging though its a 2014

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so I don't mind ruining it a bit now

shadow osprey
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2014? aging?

fair bronze
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I like it more than the new one

mint talon
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yeah i am worried about mostly oversteering when the turbo spools

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especially during winter since i do daily winter drive it

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its 2019 yeah lol 5 year old now

shadow osprey
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Last year I bought a 21 year old truck... your car just rolled off the lot. it's not old

mint talon
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i hatee the 781 man

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the new caymans they are all 4 cyl turbos

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i test drove one and did 5 minutes and went back to dealer

shadow osprey
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everything these days are 4 cyl turbos

mint talon
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cereal5 but thats a truck 😛 very different utility

fair bronze
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The 4 cylinder makes it sound like a Subaru which doesn't suit a Porsche

shadow osprey
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^

fair bronze
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6 cylinder ftw

mint talon
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YES borger

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omg the sound it was like driving a VW jetta

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i mean thats what porsches are basically

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a VW beetle with length

shadow osprey
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I'd imagine a stage 2 kit would need something like head studs, at the very least?

mint talon
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what is that? 😛

shadow osprey
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...I would recommend stage 1

mint talon
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I am not very car knowledgable

fair bronze
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lol

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Hey, not everyone is

mint talon
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the problem with doing a stage 1 is that i know i will do the stage 2 eventually

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lol

shadow osprey
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And you'll probably blow a head gasket or three if you don't do your research

fair bronze
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Personally I wouldn't risk damaging the engine, since Porsche engines are expensive to fix

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They can be very delicate too

shadow osprey
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Yeah. the super tight packaging makes it that much more annoying also

mint talon
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tell me about it just spent 7k on a new clutch flywheel this summer after a couple dozen track days

fair bronze
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Exactly

mint talon
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but that is the cost of fun i suppose 😛

fair bronze
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That's true

mint talon
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I am really working on my corner exit technique and i am really just worried about adding a turbo and ruining what i've learned

shadow osprey
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It says it only runs 4 psi, granted that's probably only stage one

mint talon
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so i'd rather spend more money keep it NA to add power than spend 10kish on a turbo

shadow osprey
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Makes me wonder how it even makes up for the added weight lol

mint talon
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you know, when i saw the HP numbers for porsches other than the 911 turbo/S gt3's i was pretty unimpressed too

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but I suppose there is a lot more to power than just HP like compression ratios (?) :S

fair bronze
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It's also when the power kicks in, how much the car weighs, the balance, etc

shadow osprey
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Just like anything complicated, there's tons of factors

fair bronze
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The number is mostly for bragging rights

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😄

mint talon
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when i drove my first porsche i was in love, it was a 1980s 911

shadow osprey
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power to weight matters a hell of a lot more, especially on auto cross. You probably do real track stuff though

mint talon
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and then my boss lent me his targa 4s for 6 months when he was vacationing

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i just had to get one after that

shadow osprey
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You got one hell of a boss

fair bronze
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I've driven a 997 which was amazing

shadow osprey
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I'd be lucky to ever set foot in a porsche

mint talon
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omg yes the 997 is amazing i hear , the 993 i believe is what i really want

shadow osprey
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All my friends are muscle car guys xD

mint talon
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cereal5 i bought mine for like 75k not too bad

fair bronze
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Haha

shadow osprey
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I'm looking at cars 10% of that price

mint talon
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sorry, i don't mean to sound entitled lol

fair bronze
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I don't even own a car

shadow osprey
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I don't care lmao I'm just saying

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They're not my cup of tea anyways

fair bronze
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No worries

mint talon
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yall are probably muchhh younger than me though

shadow osprey
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I'd rather build a 30k car that can drive circles around a porsche anyways... 😉

mint talon
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trust me my brother is a mechanic

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and his MR2

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destroys my car

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its embarassing driving next to him

shadow osprey
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lol

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MR2s are classy

mint talon
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i loveee it!

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toyota mid engine pure love man

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that engine sound too

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and 95$ for 4 brake pads, cant beat that

fair bronze
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Toyota ftw

mint talon
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ty for your advice guys

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I think I will go for the stage 1 actually, and see if i can buy a stage 2 upgrade maybe next year

fair bronze
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Good luck with everything

shadow osprey
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Yeah, hope you enjoy it

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Boost is addicting

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Don’t get lost in the sauce

mint talon
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haha! I always really focused on my technique so i avoid too much irratic change in speeds

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i love running 6-8k revs constantly

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like F1 racing

shadow osprey
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Multiply that by 2 then you have F1 car RPMs

mint talon
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LOLOL yeaaa seriously! 😛

fair bronze
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It's insane

mint talon
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my boss has an enzo and a scuderia (?)

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doesn't let me drive the enzo but i drive his scuderia and that thing tops out at 10k

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it is such a feeling especially when you are oversteering into a turn and all you gotta do is gas it

shadow osprey
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My truck redlines at 3300rpm...

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😂

mint talon
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LOL i rented a truck last month that did that too 😛

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i was like WOW that sound - and look at RPM its at 3k

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then look at gas meter, 100miles it drops almost 30%

shadow osprey
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Diesel for life

mint talon
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yeahh my dad is a fisherman and he goes by that rule too

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definitely work ing man's car

odd talon
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997.1 Turbo 6M is a good deal

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However, pretty much all ICE cars feel antiquated compared to electrics.

tight cypress
carmine summit
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@mint talon just get a small ish turbo so it isn't laggy

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if you can get one with variable geometry that would work even better

stoic ledge
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@tight cypress Mégane ?

tight cypress
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@stoic ledge how did ya know

fair bronze
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Beat me to it

stoic ledge
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Renault steeringwheel, Renault gauges, center "screen", dash design

tight cypress
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Xdd

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I did pick this thing from junkyard

stoic ledge
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Is that "dealership" in Renault's language? xD

warm sparrow
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🤔

vital glen
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@stoic ledge or fiat

stoic ledge
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GWmythsBlobGlare 🤔 GWsoraeThenkung

patent basalt
vital glen
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none of those are show cars, let's be honest

patent basalt
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My challenger is

shadow osprey
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Yeah I'm gonna have to agree with the above ^^

patent basalt
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That’s it’s not a show car?

patent basalt
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It has won its class at many shows so how is it not a show car? It comes out of the garage for shows only, show car = car that’s used for shows as in my challenger lol

shadow osprey
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What class is that? Super stock 😂

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It's funny... cause that's an NHRA class... and yeah nvm

warm sparrow
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I agree

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i don't know how you car shows work but this challenger seems pretty normal 🤔

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and i suppose it's a pretty common car in the US

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so i don't understand how it can win, it has nothing special

patent basalt
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Damn y’all salty as hell lmao people hating on my challenger probably drive garbage anyway 😂

warm sparrow
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if it was an old car, yeah why not but otherwise... 🤔

patent basalt
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Sorry I can afford to have ima challenger sit in my garage for no reason other than car shows

warm sparrow
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who hates?

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i just say it's a normal car so i don't understand how it won but otherwise it's a nice car, they are pretty rare where i live and i like it

patent basalt
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It obviously does wel at shows seeing all the awards I have and I’ve only owned it for one summer that’s one year of shows most of them first place if you look at them

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There’s a ton of little thing, under the hood is where most of the appearance mods are done the goose wheels and these rgb halls get a ton of attention

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Foose wheels

warm sparrow
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ok... i thought car shows in USA where a little bit more crazy than that

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but as i said we don't have these here so i don't know how everything works in a car show

patent basalt
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Just anyone cane bring any car to it and enter it there’s a lot more boring cars than mine at shows most of the time

stoic ledge
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@patent basalt What mods did you do to it ? Kinda curious to see the engine bay since you've done a lot of work under the hood 😉

patent basalt
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Not much for performance under the hood a lot of appearance items though I’ll grab some pics of that sometime today for ya

stoic ledge
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Ok thnx GWcmeisterPeepoLove

vital glen
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@stoic ledge You will smell a lot of plastic though

magic arrow
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i mean technically speaking all of what i get are show cars right?

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Trackhawk gets dropped off tomorrow 😄

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but let's be fair, the real show stopper is actually Andie

stoic ledge
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No what you get dropped of are the fastest cars in the world: they aren't yours xD

And yeah Andie is cool 😎

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@vital glen I'm used to that smell ;)

warm sparrow
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who?

stoic ledge
vital glen
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@stoic ledge oh yeah yeah

shadow osprey
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I wouldn’t buy a challenger anyways, and yeah I can’t afford it. Doesn’t mean I can’t talk shit 😂

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Ya know what I find funny? People talking about how their 2011 car is so old, and then someone else comes up and says their 2007 is a piece of crap

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And I’m like... yeah I voluntarily bought a 1998 pick up truck... ¯_(ツ)_/¯

patent basalt
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It’s so easy to talk shit about things you can’t afford lol

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I have three trucks lol a set of wheels of one of them are probably worth more than your truck

shadow osprey
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Again, I can talk shit about whatever I want. You have yet to tell us why your car is an award winning show car

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Saying you did “some mods” doesn’t count

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The judges or your car show probably can’t afford all those trucks either

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Yet they’re the one giving the award lmao

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I have no doubt that your car is clean, but anyone can have a clean car

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You didn’t even say what class your car is in lol I asked that yesterday

vital glen
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It won the funny car class @shadow osprey

shadow osprey
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It's not as funny the second time

vital glen
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Just because the young man can add rgb headlights to his Challenger

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@shadow osprey you know what foose wheels are?

shadow osprey
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I know of them

vital glen
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@patent basalt you got them hood pictures?

shadow osprey
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I've decided that I hope your wheels do cost more than my entire truck, because Chip Foose wheels are garbage

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Also, I doubt they do. Age isn't the only determining factor in cost

vital glen
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Wait, he has 3 trucks

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A focus

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And a Challenger r/t

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Presumably several buggies

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And shitty wheels for all of them

patent basalt
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Lmao you guys are great

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Factory wheels on most of my cars and trucks just after market on one my wheels cost more than your cars lol it’s always nice when people talk shit about all my rides they can’t afford

magic arrow
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I get the Trackhawk tomorrow to AMA on here and i'll try and answer throughout the week

shadow osprey
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I already gave you my reasoning there so...

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And you have yet to tell us anything about your award winning car

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You came in here bragging about it, so show us why it's so nice lmao

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That's all we're asking

patent basalt
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I was never bragging about it lol this is a car channel I showed it to everyone as I’m proud to own it

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I never once claimed it was super nice I said I use it as a show car and it does well shows around me are probably diffferent than you I live in farm country.

shadow osprey
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I might add, you saying "it’s always nice when people talk shit about all my rides they can’t afford" and "people hating on my challenger probably drive garbage anyway" shows quite a lot about your character.

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I might think that a Ferrari F40 is garbage

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You don't have to agree with me

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And oh by the way, I still don't know what class this car competes in in shows

patent basalt
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Usually competes In 2005+ closed car or mopar classes

shadow osprey
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Is closed car like a select list of cars that can compete?

patent basalt
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Usually mostly Camaro, mustang, and challengers in that, your average sports car typically is found there, each show is different some are 300+ cars others just a few dozen

stoic ledge
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Still curious to see what the engine bay looks like 😅 😉

vital glen
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@magic arrow does it do burnouts

shadow osprey
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It’s RWD right?

carmine summit
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Pretty sure all challengers that age are

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So it's a challenger with really poorly designed expensive wheels and rgb headlights? Makes sense

wheat hatch
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I don't necessarily with everything @shadow osprey said, but I do agree on that you, @patent basalt , need to think a bit before you lash onto others. Saying things like, "It’s so easy to talk shit about things you can’t afford lol" or "I have three trucks lol a set of wheels of one of them are probably worth more than your truck", will make you look quite snobby (and an asshole on top of that). No hate, just a bit of advice to avoid making conversations here awkward.

stoic ledge
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Yeah I agree with @wheat hatch , "you can't afford it" is one of the most used 'reasons' I've heard which is just... Well 💩

Just because I can't afford a car doesn't mean I can't form an opinion about it? If that's the case, I can't have an opinion about any new car.

On the other side, they are really hating on the car of which he is really happy. And he should be, it's a nice car. If it's not your style .. well too bad to be you.

But also, I wanna see why it's a show car, like seeing that pic from under the hood like you promised xD

fathom socket
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Hey fellows

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I’m getting a used car

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And I was wondering if the total mileage around 70,000 is worth it

stoic ledge
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@fathom socket I don't understand, what's your question ?

fathom socket
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I’m looking for my first used car

stoic ledge
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Yes

fathom socket
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And i need an advice

stoic ledge
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Sure

fathom socket
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So I found a Chevrolet that has 70,000 total mileage on it

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Is that worth it

stoic ledge
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70.000 isn't really that much tbh

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How old is it ?

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Shouldn't be a problem tho

fathom socket
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2014

stoic ledge
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About 17k miles a year, yeah I'd consider that as normal

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(or a bit more as average for a petrol/gas car, but shouldn't be a problem)

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Tbh I'd rather have a car with a higher mileage but well maintained than a car with low mileage but unknown service records

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With that mileage, you're almost 99% sure the car has done longer trips, on which the engine got on temperature

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I shouldn't worry about it

fathom socket
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At first

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I wanted the Ford Focus hatchback

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But it’s too much for my parent to confirm and pay

stoic ledge
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Chevy is a Cruze then, I assume ?

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Or a Sonic/Aveo ?

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Or ... ? 😛

fathom socket
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Cruze

stoic ledge
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USA ? I don't know which engines they sold over there... is it a 1.8, a 1.4 Turbo or... ?

fathom socket
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1.4

stoic ledge
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Or the 1.6 diesel? xD

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1.4 Turbo ?

fathom socket
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Yeah

stoic ledge
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Nice engine imho

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Althoough we tuned it to 170 hp

fathom socket
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Also

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Does drive wheel matter

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It’s a fwd

stoic ledge
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You're asking to a Europe boy, 99% of the cars here are FWD 😛

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For daily driving it's fine

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Especially with a 1.4T

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You won't really benefit from RWD

fathom socket
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Awd?

stoic ledge
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Depends on where you live, If there's a lot of snow then AWD can be better

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Otherwise... nah

fathom socket
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Too bad I won’t drive alone until someone besides me can guide me and verify that I’m ready

stoic ledge
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R.I.P

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Is it a manual or an auto you're looking for ?

fathom socket
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I’ll start off with auto for beginner

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Then later on

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I can search for a car that’s manual

stoic ledge
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So the Cruze will be an auto then ?

fathom socket
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Yeah

stoic ledge
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6-speed manual with the 1.4T can be a gamble (some bad bearings), that's why I asked

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At least, if they used the same gearbox as in our Opel's, but I think they did

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Although they fixed it for 2014 models

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1.4T + auto is fine

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Looks like the 1.4T was always paired with an auto in the States

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No worries then

fathom socket
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When did you first drive?

stoic ledge
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Legal or illegal? xD

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Got my license in 2016

fathom socket
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Legal

stoic ledge
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Well my first drivers ed lesson was in january of 2016, until you've got your license you can only drive during drivers ed around here

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Got my license in april of 2016

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But had to wait until august of 2016 (to turn 18 y/o) before I was allowed to drive alone

fathom socket
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Ah

indigo coral
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My craigslist habit is going to get me in trouble one of these times

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... lol

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'98 A4 Quattro for 500$ not bad

stoic ledge
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Probably gonna need tripple that with the next service

odd talon
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@indigo coral 1.8 or 2.8

indigo coral
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2.8

odd talon
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ok, do the timing chains

indigo coral
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and if I get it, its going to be a project car.

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@stoic ledge

odd talon
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alternatively, if you can do a swap

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swap in the 4.2

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i THINK it'll fit

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I know the 2.7tt will fit for sure

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and obvs the 1.8t will

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if its an auto, fluids are important

stoic ledge
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LS swap it

odd talon
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that would be cool too

indigo coral
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It's a manual.

stoic ledge
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Ofcourse a 2.7 TT will fit, the S4 was shipped with it xD

indigo coral
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It's at 200k miles, is that something to be particularly concerned about?

odd talon
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i mean yeah

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but its 500

indigo coral
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thats' the thing, if it works for a year then thats a damn good deal

odd talon
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if you REALLY care

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you can have it last basically forever

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but obviously you have to work

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i have a soft spot for the b5 chassis

stoic ledge
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And since it's an audi, parts will be expensive xD

odd talon
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but you can find a lot of parts off s4s

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and the parts are usually good

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get VCDS if you need to diag

indigo coral
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More or less expensive than my RX? (Speaking of that car, we're going to have to do the timing belt soon.)

odd talon
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RX300?

stoic ledge
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1999

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Yeah

indigo coral
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yeah

stoic ledge
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But no clue tbh

odd talon
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um...

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it depends

indigo coral
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1999 rx300, supposed to have been done at 90k

odd talon
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the RX300 has a severe oil sludge issue

indigo coral
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We bought it at 115 and I've driven it up to 125

odd talon
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i'd probably only use synthetic oil at this point

indigo coral
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We got the car for 100$, and we only use synthetics.

odd talon
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how

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like how is it only 100

indigo coral
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bought it from a friend, it's my first car

odd talon
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you should learn how to work on cars

stoic ledge
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Last time you said $200 GWmythsBlobGlare

indigo coral
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We only paid the tabs and taxes and stuff

odd talon
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its not too hard, and it will keep your cars alive

indigo coral
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somewhere between 100 and 200

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and yeah, I'm learning how to work on it.

odd talon
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i've sent my cars to the dealer before, and they have wrecked them

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(transmission and engine)

stoic ledge
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how

indigo coral
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yeah its not going to the dealer. My dad is incredibly good with cars and he's teaching me how to fix stuff.

odd talon
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ok, so we had an engine replacement

indigo coral
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going back to the oil sludge issue, what can I do to mitigate that to prevent it from becoming a probme?

odd talon
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and we bought a fresh longblock from the manufacturer

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the installer put in the engine and trans at an angle

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so 3rd year would grind

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killed trans.

indigo coral
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Yikes

stoic ledge
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N I C E GWloopyGok

odd talon
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additionally, they killed engine headgasket too

stoic ledge
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Normally there is sone kind of warranty on their labour, isn't there ?

odd talon
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and AC

stoic ledge
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Wot

odd talon
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yes, they refused to cover it

stoic ledge
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Nice

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GWmythsBlobGlare 🤔 GWsoraeThenkung

odd talon
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instead billed us $12000

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we refused to pay

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took the car broken, and i'm swapping a new trans in myself

stoic ledge
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Ofcourse you refused, wtf

odd talon
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no i'm 100% serious, i hate these guys

stoic ledge
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Yeah no I get you 100%

odd talon
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so now i'm going to do the work myself

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have taken apart cars before

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will try to get it working

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have to get a lift installed at the house

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not sure it will work clearance wise

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might have to pay someone good to install it just due to clearance issues

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garage is less than 3 meters tall and its a tall vehicle

stoic ledge
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That's tight

odd talon
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oh well. i hope it works out

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anyway for the oil sludge, keep using synthetic

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change oil at 3000 miles

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thats it

indigo coral
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alrighty

odd talon
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also at this point you should check all bushings and shocks/springs

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check brake caliipers too

indigo coral
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shocks were recently replaced

odd talon
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yes, none of this is free/cheap

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but its better than being dead

indigo coral
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brakes are pretty good, slightly warped rotors but nothing that is a problem

odd talon
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warped = bad

indigo coral
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Just got the wheels balanced as it was shaking to high heaven at 65+

odd talon
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go take care of that

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dude no

indigo coral
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Just the steering wheel to clarify

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Not the whole car

odd talon
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take care of the rotors

indigo coral
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I'll look into it

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Glad I got the shaking fixed though

stoic ledge
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Brakes and tyres are the last things i'd safe money on

indigo coral
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Starting at 60-65, the faster I went the more the steering wheel shook. Front right wheel was suuuper out of balance from the guy we bought it from. Took it to les schwag, they balanced it for free, and it took care of the shaking. At 70+ the steering wheel moved like an inch and a half in each direction

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The brakes work fine, just a teensy bit of vibration in the pedal.

odd talon
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no you have other issues

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you need to look at the steering rack

indigo coral
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it's all gone now, after the balancing

odd talon
#

really?

indigo coral
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yeah

odd talon
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hmm

indigo coral
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the weight they put on it is like a foot long

odd talon
#

odd

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weight?

indigo coral
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wheel weight

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around the edge

stoic ledge
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Probably some weights fell off

indigo coral
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I assume he hit a curb, he was an older dude

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so yeah weights probably fell off

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It feels a lot better at high speeds now, without the shaking

stoic ledge
#

Could be, but bent rims can't be fixed with weights

odd talon
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don't risk your life over $200

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a rim, isn't expensive to fix

indigo coral
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The rim is fine

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They said it was just hilariously out of balance

odd talon
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weird that it was that severe

indigo coral
#

yeah

stoic ledge
#

Happens more than you think

odd talon
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right now i'm dealing with mold in my car

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someone broke in

indigo coral
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ooof yikes

odd talon
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and left the door open while i was away

stoic ledge
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^^

odd talon
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it wasn't my fault, nothing i could do

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but still sucks

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vinegar and water is my first step

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next lysol

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then i'm removing the entire interior

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its not that severe

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but i need to make sure

indigo coral
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yeah

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makes sense

odd talon
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i live in an apt, so people are gonna see some shit

stoic ledge
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Lolz xD

indigo coral
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wow

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lol

odd talon
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not the first time

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we'll see what happens

indigo coral
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Is there any way that you guys know of to hack an AUX onto a RX300 with Nakamichi audio?

odd talon
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easy

indigo coral
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I found guides for the Pioneer base system but this one doesn't have any. at all.

stoic ledge
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Does it have cd changer by any chance?

indigo coral
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yes, 6 disc

odd talon
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use the cd changers L/R

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its just analog audio

stoic ledge
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^

indigo coral
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That's how it should work for the Pioneer system but with the nakamichi one theres an amp thing that screws stuff up

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I found a guide saying pretty much that online but all the wires and stuff are different on the Nakamichi

odd talon
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no

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it shouldn't matter

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if you want something plug and play, just look into an integration thing from DICE or something

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then get a bluetooth audio 3.5mm kit

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tuck it behind the dash

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unless it has a mic, then put it over the steering column

indigo coral
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this is how it should look in order to do that method, and thats how it is on the pioneer system

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mine only has 4 wires

odd talon
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these guys can do what you wnat

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so its possible

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even for nak

stoic ledge
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Lol I also found that website

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Can't really find anything else

odd talon
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Honestly, i would just use them

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its way less time/effort

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unless you can find a guide

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but my guess is that they are taking the L/R signal from somewhere

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if you REALLY want to DIY this

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look at the pinout of the amp

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you should get all the data from there

stoic ledge
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Or... Use one of those crappy fm transmitters xD

indigo coral
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Reading their website, it doesn't support the first gen RX.

odd talon
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@indigo coral no

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it will

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Read this

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the nak system is supported

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All the Nak is, is an amplifier/DSP

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its still fed an analog signal somewhere at some point

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do some reading on this, but this isn't impossible!

broken island
#

Oh sweet we have a cars chat.
Hello feelow auto enthusiasts.
I own a Civic si, what do you own?

vital glen
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@broken island all the working cars?

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or all cars?

broken island
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@vital glen whatever you wanna share

vital glen
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@broken island working cars: none of them
I have a 1995 Hummer H1 Softtop from a mechanics lean
2009 Wrangler Rubicon father/son 392hemi swap
1985 Monte Carlo SS swapped with a 350+144longnose

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Any mods to your SI? @broken island

broken island
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A hemi swapped wrangler Rubicon?? That sounds sick.
It's all stock rn, just got it not too long ago. I plan to upgrade the breaks and tires. Possibly suspension, exhaust & intake. Not sure on the last three.

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@vital glen

vital glen
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@broken island I got this
spinny rimz, cherry bomb, squeaky breaks, run slicks, add a carboard wing, all the stickers, and a 15 dollar ebay tune

broken island
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XD

vital glen
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add some more badges on it

broken island
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Maybe a Type R badge

vital glen
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type riced from factory

broken island
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Lol

carmine summit
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My friend has a Dodge Durango (I think about 2003) that he's turning into an autocross vehicle

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It's got a 5.7 and AWD so it should be fast right? Lol

shadow osprey
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@broken island Welcome. I drive a 1998 dodge cummins pick up

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Durango autoX... lol

broken island
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lol

shadow osprey
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Better have some spare money, cause the fab work to get that low enough to eliminate body roll won't be cheap. It'll look dope though

shadow osprey
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That's also not a question

fathom socket
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fuck

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US cars can break down in a short span of life.

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I think thats BS

broken island
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it depends

fathom socket
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a used chevrolet cruze 2014

shadow osprey
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Any car can break down at any time

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A 2014 car most likely won't though

fathom socket
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no incident report, 75 total miles

shadow osprey
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Just for the record, you still didn't ask a question lmao

fathom socket
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but you get my statemen

shadow osprey
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I had a friend with a cruze

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He liked it

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I'm not a chevy guy so I can't tell you anything specific, but they're a decent selling car, so they can't be that bad

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It's 4 years old, it'll be fine

fathom socket
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it's a budget car that I can only afford

shadow osprey
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I wouldn't call any 2014 car a budget car

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especially with 75 miles

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But that's subjective

fathom socket
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9,000 dollars

shadow osprey
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See above

fathom socket
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christ man

shadow osprey
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You can get a lot of car for 9 grand

broken island
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lol

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agreed

fathom socket
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well

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the first car that I laid my eyes on was the ford focus hatchback

shadow osprey
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ok...

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And I take it you don't like that?

fathom socket
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well no

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I did like it

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the price was like 12k

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and it is too much for my parent to accept

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so my second option is the chevy cruze

shadow osprey
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I mean you can get a cheaper focus

fathom socket
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that is the only low price i can find around my area

shadow osprey
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

vital glen
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Include gas in to final pricing @fathom socket

broken island
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why not a civic S i ;D

shadow osprey
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idk, you tell me

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It's your car not mine lol

vital glen
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A Civic type rice is my favorite Civic

broken island
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lol

shadow osprey
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You can get a focus st for 9 grand

broken island
#

ha

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where could i get that

fathom socket
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Im not a honda guy

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more of a ford

shadow osprey
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ok maybe not 9 grand. maybe 10-11

broken island
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ah. I l o v e hondas lol

vital glen
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Buy a police interceptor

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Crown vic

broken island
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wanna be cop

odd talon
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@broken island Do you watch SavageGoose?

broken island
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@odd talon yeee (as in yes)

vital glen
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I OWN THE TRI-STATE AREA @broken island

odd talon
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he drives a 1998 Honda Civic

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He can obviously afford better, but the civic is what he chose

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very interesting

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but those 90s civics were pretty special

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light weight, great gearbox

broken island
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totally

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8th gens (what I own) are pretty good too. got the same characteristics as the 90's ones.

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maybe not as good, but still fun.

vital glen
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@broken island yeah no, nobody is that blind, the blind man can see through that statement

shadow osprey
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wut

vital glen
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The new civics are chunky compared to the 90s civic

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it got the junk in the trunk of you know what I am saying

broken island
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i mean, my si is no type r, but the engine revs to 8k, has a great shifter, weights 2,800lbs, and the vtec is legit

odd talon
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i like the 8th

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but the 6th

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something about that 6th gen

vital glen
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It revs to 8k? @broken island

broken island
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i didnt say its better than the 6th lol, 6th all the way man

odd talon
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i know

broken island
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yeah @vital glen . Redline is at 8 thousand rpm. Rev limiter usually kicks in at 8500 or 8300

odd talon
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its hard to explain if you've never driven it

shadow osprey
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"and the vtec is legit" oh really 🤔

broken island
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it is hard to explain

odd talon
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the earlier civics were basically 993s for the poor

vital glen
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Variable valve timing is @shadow osprey

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a legit way for more fuel economy

broken island
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mmmhm

shadow osprey
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My Cobra had IMRCs that opened the other 2 valves on each cylinder at 3250 RPM. That's basically vtec for a V8 right?

broken island
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Anything with variable valve timming can have vtec

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What makes vtec great is the cam sizes in the engine.
To answer your question, yes, your old V8 had vtec in a way

shadow osprey
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t h a t s t h e j o k e . j p e g

vital glen
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He can't hear you over the lawnmower @shadow osprey

shadow osprey
#

WHAT?!

broken island
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Lol

serene jetty
#

Melbourne's Car Culture is coming in full force this Saturday

stoic ledge
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Looks nice

near plank
#

Anyone a fan of Toyota's new Supra? Mk.4 is the best compared to the new one.

night current
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Mk.4 is the best indeed.

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The new one literally just seems like a rebadged z4

serene jetty
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New one looks yikes imo

patent basalt
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Thoughts ok Kia stinger?? Considering trading my ST in on one

shadow osprey
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It seems like it is because it is

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@patent basalt coworker has one, I would take an ST over it just for the stick

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Besides that, they’re pretty close

patent basalt
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I’m leaning more to stinger I just got my girlfriend a new sorento not a bad little suv and rest drove a stinger really liked it I haven’t been driving the st much anymore and I went down to it from an rs wanna go awd again

stoic ledge
#

Really like the looks of the Stinger personally

shadow osprey
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Yeah you made the mistake of selling an RS lol

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No replacement for horsepower

fathom socket
#

I was looking at the stinger myself before I decided for the charger. Both are great

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I was heading to work on one freeway going down the lane that merged to another that crossed underneath it. I was going the speed limit on the westbound lane coming up to the point where eastbound lane was at a standstill. Fucking Honda pulled into my lane I'd say no more than 30 feet in front of me barely doing ten miles an hour. I think I could have put a yard stick between our sidewalls from how close I got to hitting him. Luckily I was able to swerver into the gravel to the right of me out of the way. Fucker didnt even notice and kept driving forward. A Hyundai passed by and I got back on only to see the Honda turn back into the backed up east bound lane and then back onto the main highway before going up the off ramp.

shadow osprey
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Those are two completely different vehicles 😂

vital glen
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@shadow osprey semi-luxury kia sedan vs muscle sedan

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idk

shadow osprey
#

Alright well maybe not so much

indigo coral
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Personally I'd take the Stinger

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But I've got weird tastes 😂😂

patent basalt
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Ehh the head gasket recalls came and the car went I didn’t wanna deal with the issues

shadow osprey
#

Fair enough

patent basalt
#

I’ll see how’s the girlfriends new Kia turns out first if it’s good I’ll grab one if not I’ll go for a used Audi rs3 or something

shadow osprey
#

RS7 or riot linusKappa

vital glen
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@shadow osprey little man got audi money

patent basalt
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Idk too many choices

shadow osprey
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Just don’t get a 2.0T

fathom socket
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What's wrong with the 2.0T

broken island
night current
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I mean... Imo, the new Supra contains nearly nothing of the original...

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That's why I don't like it...

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At least the Gt 86 has always been similar in ways...

broken island
#

I don't mind that its not 100% toyota. I feel with the situation they're in, this is a good way to test the waters

patent basalt
#

Is there much of a market for a used crosshair vi hero board?

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Oop

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Wrong chat

broken island
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they're not gonna invest millions in an engine if no one is gonna buy the car

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lol your good bro

patent basalt
#

I’m pro new Supra 100% I like it I wanna see the price tag

broken island
#

Most of the people who want a new supra probably dont have the money to buy one. So, who's gonna buy them?
that's what theyre gonna see

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@patent basalt its gonna be like $50,000 US

night current
#

I mean, you are right about them testing the waters I suppose.

patent basalt
#

That’s not bad at all

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I might have to get me one

broken island
#

Thats my gut feeling

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that'd be a plast

patent basalt
#

I was expecting 100k

broken island
#

lol

#

no

night current
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Lmao

broken island
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the mk4 was about $40,000 US at the time it was out

patent basalt
#

I’ll write it off at a business car and put my company logos on it lmao that’ll work

broken island
#

lol. What's the company?

patent basalt
#

May not fit in with the rest of the fleet 😂 excavation company lol

#

Snow removal and all, I’ll throw a plow on it

broken island
#

lol

patent basalt
#

I’ll wait to see one in person

broken island
#

same

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i dont have the money for one, but im soooo curious what it'll look like face to face

patent basalt
#

The only Toyota dealer near me only keeps a few trucks and a bunch of Garbage cars

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Doubt I’d be able to see one if just jabe to buy and hope it looks good

broken island
#

mine has some sport cars, like the 86 and trd tim Tacoma's

night current
#

I feel like garbage is a bit of an overstatement. xD

broken island
#

i think it looks o k. not too much of a fan of the ducktale

patent basalt
#

Lol there’s one small Toyota car I don’t mind forgot the name

broken island
#

I really like the new Corolla hatchback, you can get it with a six-speed manual.

#

Love that they did that

night current
#

Yeah, that's pretty cool.

patent basalt
#

The new Camry I think looks sweet af for a Camry

night current
#

Indeed. It's very modern looking imo.

broken island
#

their cars look interesting again.

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did you know toyota got back into rally??

patent basalt
#

Itll be time to replace one of my trucks soon it’s starting to rust I have had it since new in 08

broken island
#

over ten years, that a long time

night current
#

That's awesome that they are getting back into rally.

patent basalt
#

It’s been good but 110k miles is the biggest I’ve owned lol

#

I have a newer one I drive daily now so it’ll be nice to replace it and keep the miles low on it

shadow osprey
#

I head 60-75k for the mk5

#

@patent basalt I see that SN95 👀 I had a cobra as my first car

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Looks like it’s missing a motor though

patent basalt
#

Yeah it was it blew up lol

#

Was a 351w swap car but I killed it

#

eBay turbo was a no go

shadow osprey
#

Lmfao

#

Yeah, Windsors don’t like boost

patent basalt
#

It did for a few months lol

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Then I turned it up :3

shadow osprey
#

Valiant effort

#

Yeah... yeah

patent basalt
#

I wanna our that eBay turbo in something else lol

shadow osprey
#

Side note - what trailer is that

patent basalt
#

Load trail 22’

shadow osprey
#

Assuming you bought it new?

patent basalt
#

That one I got used it was a year old when I got it in 2012 I believe

shadow osprey
#

How’s the wood held up? I’ve been a little hesitant to buy a wood deck trailer since I live on the east coast, but I’m also hesitant to buy a steel deck for the same reason

patent basalt
#

It’s been pretty good I put a pretty heavy cat skid steer on it and I’m not nice to it, it’s held up pretty well I’ve done wood three times since I got it

shadow osprey
#

Ah so you’ve redone the deck about every other year?

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2-3 years

patent basalt
#

Yeah about it sees a lot of use I let Danita and employees borrow it a ton

#

Family

shadow osprey
#

True

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I’ve been leaning towards wood. Cheaper and I’ll probably buy a bigger trailer in a couple years anyways

#

I’m just looking for a small car hauler, like 16-18 ft

#

Hard to find any around me used though

patent basalt
#

I’m moving to all gooseneck soon my 2500 has it all the work trucks have it and I just got one in my f150 there’s a huge trailer dealer near me

shadow osprey
#

Oh nice

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Say uh... Need someone to take that one off your hands?

patent basalt
#

Lol I may soon gonna wait for spring gonna replace wood before I sell it as well

shadow osprey
#

Nah that makes it more expensive, don't do that

patent basalt
#

I don’t wanna sell it with the wood that’s on it I don’t want anyone buying it and the wood breaking and then coming back after me or anything I have some laying around to do it

shadow osprey
#

I found a decent one that supposedly is a 12000lb gross trailer with a 12k lbs winch. I'd like to do that at some point also but... $2500 is too much for me 😂

patent basalt
#

I’m not even sure what mine is lol I probably overload jt a lot 😂

shadow osprey
#

If it ain't broke yet then who cares

patent basalt
#

My challengers so heavy that’s probably over 😂😂

shadow osprey
#

It's probably out of my price range anyways if you put a skid steer on it

#

lol true

patent basalt
#

I think an employee wants it when I sell he is always borrowing it and has asked me to sell it to him a few times

shadow osprey
#

ah

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Oh well

patent basalt
#

Your probably a ways away from me as wel

shadow osprey
#

Not east coast?

patent basalt
#

Middle of the us lol

shadow osprey
#

Well

#

Oh well

#

Holy shit I might as well buy one of those super cheap new trailers that is listed 200 times on craigslist. There's literally nothing

cold summit
#

Vauxhall's are shit, if your wondering what a vaxhaull it is Britain's worst car company

stoic ledge
#

Opel's on the other hand are good 😉

cold summit
#

😉

wheat hatch
fathom socket
#

ae88: exsists near me

#

resist the temptation

#

i definitley cant afford to take out a loan

#

but god

#

i love theese things

cold summit
#

Cargasm

night current
#

I want one of those so badly...

#

I'd want the hatchback version though.

warm sparrow
#

hmm trueno

#

if you want a trueno but it's too expensive there is the nissan silvia s12

#

looks identical

#

and probably cheaper

night current
#

Wow, it really does look similar... lol

#

4age is too good though...

#

Also, I think an S12 is more rare in the US than an 86... superjoy

#

I cannot find one for sale.

carmine summit
#

I saw one in I think Tennessee last year on my way to Florida

night current
#

👀

#

I wish I saw it... ThroughFacePalm

warm sparrow
#

oh yes sorry

#

i think it's more common here than a 86

#

maybe because the 86 has a different name...

#

(that i don't remember)

#

pretty cheap for an AE86

#

oh and silvia s12 are also rare here

#

it wasn't sold here

fathom socket
#

Do game cars counts here linusCreep

night current
#

That's a really clean 86... feelsneat

#

It might... xP

warm sparrow
#

hehehe

#

i smell money escaping from wallet

zenith path
shadow osprey
#

@warm sparrow @fathom socket S12s weren't sold in the US. Imports started with the S13 and ended with the S14. Short run for America. I think it's due to emissions requirements. There are tons of JDM cars that have that same boxy look though

stoic ledge
#

@shadow osprey according to Wikipedia (best source, I know) the S12 was sold as a 200SX ?

shadow osprey
#

In Europe

#

In the US it was called the 240SX, and was only sold from 89-98

stoic ledge
#

89 is the S13

#

The S12 Silvia brand in North America was badged as a "200SX". 
That's what Wikipedia says

shadow osprey
#

Hm

#

I can't say I've ever seen one

stoic ledge
#

I've got no clue, only reading what Wikipedia says xD

#

Can't find a S12 in entire Europe for sale

#

Nope i'm wrong: there are 2 for sale

serene jetty
#

meanwhile in Australia drowning in Japanese cars

unreal pivot
#

@serene jetty sound like a plan

#

but sadly im pulling to jap an us cars in 5 months

serene jetty
#

huh?

unreal pivot
#

well im importing a 2010 4.8 ford crown vic it is currently being built to spec an im well getting stuff that is not typically available to the public

shadow osprey
#

Why would you build a crown Vic lol

#

And is that a Ford 4.6 stroker or an LS 4.8

odd talon
#

@shadow osprey Why not?

#

could be a lot of fun

shadow osprey
#

It's a grandpa car lol

#

I don't care, I'm just wondering

fathom socket
#

@unreal pivot importing a crown vic? to where?

tropic silo
#

@zenith path nice car Vanilla_Smile

stoic ledge
#

Is dis some more dutch plates? 👀

shadow osprey
#

Blurred because we'll steal your identity

stoic ledge
#

You can track license plates over here and lots of details about it (i don't know if it's the same in the US)

#

But that's often the reason to blur it

shadow osprey
#

Honestly I don't know

#

But if you want to break into my house, go right ahead

#

You'll find out what's on the other side real quick

stoic ledge
#

😂

shadow osprey
#

God bless America

stoic ledge
#

Actually what you find isn't that impressive

#

And normally I don't care

#

But some reason I've blurred them here too

shadow osprey
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

stoic ledge
#

Not that you guys could read the websites anyway because it's written in some angry duck language but.. 😛

shadow osprey
#

lol

#

Isn't that what google translate is for?

stoic ledge
#

Stttttt xD

tropic silo
#

Its stupid people can find out your deepest and darkest secret from 6 simple letter or numbers....

stoic ledge
#

deepest and darkest secret
Some specs of the car, first date registered, last date and time registered too you, next MOT date, the last MOT failures... xD

fair bronze
#

In the Netherlands it's only the specs of the car, when the MOT is due and how many owners it's had basically

stoic ledge
#

And BPM so you can find out if a car was imported in 4974903 pieces xD

#

Or wrecked

zenith path
#

@tropic silo thank you!! I love yours too! 😍

tropic silo
#

Well thank you!!!

stoic ledge
#

@tropic silo 1.4 ? Or the 3L 😄

tropic silo
#

Its the 1.4 one. But a 3L sounds fun AF pogchamp

#

75HP Vanilla_Smile

stoic ledge
#

3L is a 1.2TDI btw 😂

#

With 61hp

tropic silo
stoic ledge
#

"3L" because it should use 3L/100km

tropic silo
#

Hmmm

#

Idk what mine runs RenShrugGif
But it already drove 400km on half a tank

stoic ledge
#

Only good way to calculate is number of km's devided by the amount of fuel used 😉

tropic silo
#

Yea. But i don't know how much goes into the tank Vanilla_Smile

#

30Liters i think

#

Or 25

stoic ledge
#

Should be 42 liters (:

tropic silo
#

That's an oddly specific number Vanilla_Suspicious

stoic ledge
#

I looked it up 😉

tropic silo
#

Ooooooooh okiiii!!!

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Do you know the L per 100km too??

stoic ledge
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According to the factory it should be 5.9l/100k, but doubt

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Thats about 1:17

tropic silo
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Sooo.... around 8l/100km since i always floor it

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Or 10L/100KM

stoic ledge
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Oof 10l/100km

tropic silo
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Haha

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Going fast is more fun :)

stoic ledge
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trying to go fast << fixed that for you

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1.4 with 75hp is never fast

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😛

tropic silo
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Its a lightweight car tho

stoic ledge
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Yeah i know

tropic silo
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Has a spaceframe

stoic ledge
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Yeah all aluminium and shizzl3

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895kg according to the spec sheet

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😛

tropic silo
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Yea. Sadly. Can't use a DAB+ radio. Since it needs steel body parts

carmine summit
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I really have to convince my dad to get a Kerma tune on his car, it may actually be pretty good for autocross then

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It already handles surprisingly well, so actually having some power would make it quick

tropic silo
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Lets turbocharge it :)

stoic ledge
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Turbo's are good

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Free power

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😄

carmine summit
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If I had $2500 I could get a 165whp kit for it from Kerma

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I don't have $2500 though lol

stoic ledge
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had to look up what Kerma was

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Lol R.I.P

carmine summit
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KermaTDI

stoic ledge
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Yeah I found them

carmine summit
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Maybe I should just clean the intake and then tune it myself with a VAGcom

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turn up the boost a few PSI and the fuel maybe 5%

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adjust the curves a little bit too

stoic ledge
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Hehe that's how a friend and i boosted a Corsa diesel, we went from 67hp to 110hp (really old 1.5 diesel)

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+65% isn't bad xD

wheat hatch
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2019 Golf R is out, and it has 10 less HP than before...

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And if someone can clarify for me what "2.0 TSI PF" means, it would be highly appreciated

tropic silo
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2 liter turbo something injection. Pfft

unreal pivot
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@fathom socket the uk

tropic silo
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Nyoooom

wheat hatch
stoic ledge
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@wheat hatch PF standands for Partikel Filter (:

wheat hatch
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Thanks man! 😄

stoic ledge
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Np

wheat hatch
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Was googling around a lot, but found nothing :p

stoic ledge
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They had to add it to pass the WLTP test (Euro-6d temp standard)

wheat hatch
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And they had to put it in the name to

fathom socket
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@unreal pivot well hope you have fun with it!

wheat hatch
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Just to ensure everyone that they are not cheating this time

fathom socket
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Thank God they're plentiful

stoic ledge
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Well it's VW, you never know

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Maybe they added the PF in the name but not the actual thing

wheat hatch
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Well if they fuck up again

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They will be drowning in shit

stoic ledge
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"That will do, we added PF"

wheat hatch
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Gets caught again

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All CEO's just running for it

stoic ledge
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laughs in existing car brand

wheat hatch
stoic ledge
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It's particulate filter in English 😛

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Same xD

unreal pivot
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@fathom socket yes i will i already have the space booked on the ship with a container and i have set up a few other things to get ready for it

stoic ledge
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Just like diesel cars

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Only now for petrol/gas powered cars

wheat hatch
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Well, I was still hoping for a 5-Cylinder instead of their current 4 banger

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But I can always dream

stoic ledge
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I don't think that's gonna happen tbh

fathom socket
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@unreal pivot that's neat! If you ever are in need of extra bits you have a stateside pal,

wheat hatch
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nah it won't

fathom socket
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And as a note, be weary of the stock intake manifold, they tend to crack and leak coolant from the thermostat housing

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Also heat shield the ecu

unreal pivot
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ok i will buy a spear now then i suppose XD

fathom socket
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Make sure it's the updated one

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I'd also heat shield the ECU if it's the model that it's in the engine bay

unreal pivot
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it is a P71 so i would imagine but it is being rebuilt now so ill add that to the list

fathom socket
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Ah okay, that's good to know!

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Usually stock they have plenty of get up and go in my exp

unreal pivot
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and as for the ecu im gonna swap that out anyway so i can adjust it to be more fuel efficient as they only get 19mpg stock with the police interceptor model and i will also be doing performance pats to help like fuel injectors

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might do a stage 1 waight reduction as well

fathom socket
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Eh, if you have a light foot you could probably do 25 in it

unreal pivot
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ah good to know

fathom socket
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I can do 22 in my 67 galaxie with a 2bbl carb

unreal pivot
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i only have a heavy foot if im raging

fathom socket
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It's just mindfulness and using hypermiler techniques

unreal pivot
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ohh that is really efficient im looking into getting one my self

fathom socket
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Really though the best way to get the best mpg is just that and keeping it well maintained

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Getting one of?

unreal pivot
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a 67 galaxie there is one being sold around the corner from me

fathom socket
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Oh huh

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What a coincidence

unreal pivot
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i know it is like it is destiny altho it is just me being stupid

fathom socket
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Well if it makes you happy ya know

unreal pivot
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as a 4.8 in the uk is gonna get pricy

fathom socket
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How so?

unreal pivot
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well road tax insurance and mots

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mainly road tax and insurance

fathom socket
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Ah, I see

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Here in Oregon 1974 and older there's no emissions

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And only same states do saftey

unreal pivot
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ye it is the same here just it comes forward to 83 doesn't need a lot of things in a mot

fathom socket
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Ah

unreal pivot
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like you say mainly safety things

fathom socket
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Oh there's no inspection here in Oregon

unreal pivot
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altho i wanted a DMC

fathom socket
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It's like, 4 states I'm aware of that do it

unreal pivot
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oh really?

fathom socket
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Yeah

unreal pivot
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hummmmm i might move to the us instead of japan

fathom socket
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I mean if you wanna die if you get sick and have to pay 5k to ride in a wee woo wagon

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It sucks living here

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Like there's some nice stuff but the country is more backwards than it looks in the surface

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its all expensive

unreal pivot
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i know

fathom socket
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Anyway

unreal pivot
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but we (the uk) have free nhs but we have to pay for any subscriptions like glasses medication

fathom socket
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Im goin out, I'll ttyl

unreal pivot
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ttfn

magic arrow
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hey everyone! I have the Trackhawk for the week so #AMA

shadow osprey
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@magic arrow not track hall related. You review SUVs mostly right? Can you link your YouTube

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My dad’s “looking” for an suv

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Aka I give him suggestions and he goes and test drives it

magic arrow
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oh

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sure

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well i review mostly all "DOG FRIENDLY" vehicles

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with the exception of the Q60S Red Sport 400 LOL

shadow osprey
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Works for me, we have a dog

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Infiniti?

magic arrow
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yah

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they gave it to me for fun

shadow osprey
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Eh won’t be buying that anyways

magic arrow
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i actually got andie to go in it

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because the entire rear bench folds down

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not practical, but was good for a video

shadow osprey
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Nice

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Thanks for the link, I’ll cruise around some videos

magic arrow
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sure 😄 and i'm on here to answer any questions too

shadow osprey
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Rough estimate, what percent of the vehicles you’ve reviewed have tow hitches

magic arrow
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well, almost all of them have the option

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with the exception of the smaller vehicles