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fathom socket
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batteries/motor especially

odd talon
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plus if you can retrofit the epas system you can get the car to steer by itself

fathom socket
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really though, i think the smoothest ride possible would be a electric motor paired with a mid 70s gm powerglide

odd talon
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making it a good daily

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no way

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i wouldn't want a powerglide

fathom socket
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theyre smooth man

odd talon
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oh i know

fathom socket
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its one thing gm did right

odd talon
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but why do you need any gear ratios

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tesla uses a 1 speed box, no?

fathom socket
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having a transmission in place makes it easier build wise in a conversion

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and for simplicity

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re: the build itself

odd talon
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yeah, i can see that esp for a rear drive application

fathom socket
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yeah definitley

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like making an ev that way is just a matter of engine out, hooking up electrics, wiring, ect, off you go

odd talon
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but yeah i'd love a old T2 van

fathom socket
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oh hell yeah

odd talon
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but with the brakes of a modern porsche, and chevy bolt drivetrain

fathom socket
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and since theres always more teslas being crashed there wont ever be a short supply of drivetrains

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BREMBOS

odd talon
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i'd be okay with the bolt or tesla drivetrain

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i am unhappy with the leaf's battery thermals

fathom socket
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either is good

odd talon
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the battery degradation on the leaf is too high

fathom socket
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id resign the leaf for just making it a in town go kart so to speak

odd talon
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but the driving and comfort is very good

fathom socket
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its a nissan

night current
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Does Luke have an X? I thought he drove an Acura...

odd talon
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in scrapyard wars he has an acura, but i think he has an x now

fathom socket
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really tho re: batteries till they stop using li-ion and change to something with a longer life we just gotta deal with this nonesense

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and the weight

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good lord

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i mean li-ion is better than nicad but

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progress can be made

odd talon
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but i dont want to go all into restomod

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look at the mirai

fathom socket
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restomod? hell nah

odd talon
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and the honda clarity

fathom socket
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im more of a

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make it work and daily it

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no fancy auto pilot or nothin

odd talon
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i mean its very clear hydrogen is making headway

fathom socket
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if the infastructure is funded and accepted i could see it

odd talon
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i think it will be created by Shell and the like

fathom socket
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i had a 82 240 turbo wagon that had a partial hydrogen system in it but that was to aid combustion

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oh definitley

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since theyre already doin that

odd talon
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the problem is that if gas stations don't exist

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long distance travel is severely hindered

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i want hydrogen or eco-battery powered cars driving autonomously

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vs lots of plane trips

fathom socket
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i can see it, but personally im all for the driving part

odd talon
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me too

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i love driving

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but i hate dumb commutes

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if you've lived in NYC, Seattle, or SF

fathom socket
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i might be the weirdo then

odd talon
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in 1 hour, i drove less than a mile

fathom socket
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sounds rough

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i was in seattle some time ago and i never had it that bad, but that was like, near the space needle

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im from pdx so i dont know seattle at all really

odd talon
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yeah its so bad now that we're allowed to drive on the shoulder

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during rush hour

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and the HOV lane costs money

fathom socket
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hoof

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thats rough

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another reason im not gonna move to a bigger city than pdx

odd talon
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as a result i actually take the bus now, whereas i NEVER would have considered it

fathom socket
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thats fair

odd talon
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i mean if you're in traffic for 90 min, its better to get work done

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its not driving pleasure at that point

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just ick

fathom socket
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shrug

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my line of work i cant get work done on my commute even if i wanted

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all my work is hands on at the site

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so yknow each their own

odd talon
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yeah

fathom socket
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i mean somtimes i fill paperwork but its like maybe 10 minutes max at a job

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usually none

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but yeah for people who are busy, i can really see how autonomous cars would help

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or those who cant drive

odd talon
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yeah i still think its pretty cool technology

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and i'd love to see it evolve

fathom socket
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oh totally

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i was super excited way back when it started with that govt incentivized challenge

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watching the humvee go a few miles that first time

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and the leaps and bounds the teams took next time

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there was a video on it i think

odd talon
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yeah

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DARPA 06

fathom socket
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was super cool

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hard to belive it was that long ago though

odd talon
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back then epas wasnt even common

fathom socket
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yeah

jolly harbor
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might buy an '01 Mercury Sable Wagon

hexed arrow
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monkaShakeG will mods think that that is a meme hmm

shadow osprey
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You could compare it to just about any sporty coupe from the last 20 years and you'd be right

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Similar to a 370Z also

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and the Z4 it's based on

lime copper
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

shadow osprey
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But I won't be buying one so... I guess I don't care. I can kiss my dreams of owning a MK4 goodbye though, prices will have skyrocketed by now

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And will only grow for the rest of it's life

fathom socket
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So: you buy one that's not quite perfect

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Maybe less than so

hexed arrow
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@shadow osprey if the tib's front bumper looked more angry it would be an exact replica OmegaLUL

shadow osprey
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Wide low grille, side scoops/fogs, upturned rear quarter window, maybe a side scoop or vent, and dual exhaust

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Man that BMW grille looks terrible

stoic ledge
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370Z looks really wierd in Nismo trim imho

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Very wierd front bumper

warm sparrow
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wut

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no, it is gorgeous

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love this car

stoic ledge
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Don't get me wrong, I like the 370Z

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Just the Nismo front bumper looks wierd

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Like a cat fish

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Especially the earlier models

primal kelp
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anyone who’s hot on turbos - how’s this looking to you? 91,000 miles. The oil puddle is from the PCV but I’m slightly confused as to what could have worn the leading edges of the main blades out and left the smaller blades in perfect condition

Personally new to turbo’s so it’s perhaps an obvious question but I’d expect normal wear and tear to take its toll on both sets of leading edges?

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Also if anyone knows the name of those parts instead of “main blades” and “smaller blades” please do inform me

shadow osprey
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No idea what the different names are, or if there are even any, but it would make sense, since the secondary boxes sit further back from the primary ones, so any debris that entered would most likely hit only the primary blades

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Do you have a shitty air filter? Or any air filter

fathom socket
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new cars follow a trend yes, but theyre all still unique, and i can appreciate it

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theyre all a product of the era

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like I personally, really really love how the 2014-2018 silverado and gmc sierras look

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especially the no chrome single cab long beds

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its so hard to actually find one though since most of those are sold in BULK

coral wolf
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So the new Supra

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I'm a euro guy so it doesn't affect me but. They're rebodying something with a detuned engine compared to the original BMW, and trying to pass it off as a new craft.

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That seems rather insulting to their highly loyal fanbase.

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Now they're considering cancelling the gt86. I wonder if it's because it puts out more power than the 4cyl base Supra.

fathom socket
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more than liklet

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likley

coral wolf
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How do you make a hyped car, worse than the worst modern "performance" car of all time

vital glen
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@coral wolf easy

coral wolf
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Its an overblown smart

fathom socket
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could definitley have more fun by just finding a metro lsi 5sp and just putting a turbo on it

coral wolf
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XD

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For40k

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I'd get a golf r

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Or a gti with stupid stable power

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Good job Toyota

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Now instead of brzs and gt86s, all the local douchebaggery on campus will have their dad buy them the 4cyl supra

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They'll really think it's a racecar

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Omg

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The brz is just a new platform for a new gen of fast and the furious idiots

shadow osprey
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Wait, the 4 cyl supra makes less than 200 hp?

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I'm convinced manufacturers don't want to bring back inline 6s because they know they're more reliable and sound wayyyy better than V6s. And can probably hold more power easier. Don't get me wrong, V6s can be good, but they don't often sound good. Mostly like trumpets (looking at you, Z cars). BMW is pretty much the only manufacturer to hold onto the inline 6, and those never sounded super amazing either, not like a JZ or RB at least... so kind of a wash there.

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Also, older Jeep 3.9L and Ford 4.9L i6s were both completely bullet proof, dirt cheap to repair, and made plenty of torque.

fathom socket
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its planned obsolescence

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As a mechanic is so gd infuriating

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nothing made now is truly reliable

shadow osprey
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I wouldn't go that far. LSs and Mod motors are pretty damn good

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It's more the electronics that make things shitty

coral wolf
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I'm gonna stay over here with my EA888, IS38 turbo. Reliable parts and engine with inexpensive and vast parts, and durability.

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I love how car companies know they can top mount the filter and make a drain for the oil

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But don't

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My GTI, you just half turn the oil filter from up top (it has a bolt on it to be loosened) and throw open the drain from in front of the engine

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And it's draining

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Is nice

primal kelp
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@shadow osprey no idea what the previous owner’s been doing but I’ve either had the stock filter on it or more recently a reusable pod filter

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@coral wolf have you had your tensioners done on your 888

coral wolf
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@primal kelp no

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Gen3

primal kelp
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Ah understandable

coral wolf
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Can't wait to get stage 2+ done

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Need seats

midnight peak
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the new supra looks disgusting imo

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and they were so close

wheat hatch
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That's the one thing my friend loved about the Supra, the front bumper.

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Looks like the car was smiling :p

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Also

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(Well front wise it's still the same, but the rear is different at least)

warm sparrow
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@midnight peak 👌 i agree 90%

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new supra is not "disgusting" but definitely not a supra, it looks too much like lots of others cars

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and the second one on your pic is perfect! THIS is a Supra! love it

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this thing on the middle of the front is weird and i really don't like the lights

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these strips are ugly

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et looks like shit, even just the light of the alternativ car would make the real supra much better

wheat hatch
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First pic of the Supra we got looks so stiff and boring

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The second pic makes the car look excited and gives it more of a fun look rather than stiff and serious

warm sparrow
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not just that, it is beautiful

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the other is weird, i hate this thing they did at the front

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it doesn't even look like a toyota

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more like a lexus

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the more i look at the new supra, the more i hate it

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why do they always put the exhaust in the fcking bumper, it was much better like on the old cars

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a good old big exhaust coming from down below

midnight peak
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they tried to make the 992 look more modern and more unique and different

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IMO it was wrong and they shouldn't have gone this far

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the wide red reflective bar makes the rear look like an audi to me

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like an A7/RS7

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but the front and sides are NOICE

wheat hatch
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@midnight peak agreed, tail is a bit too much for me + I'm not really fond of the spoiler design :p

fathom socket
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@shadow osprey bmw sealed transmissions 😬

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ie: the worst thing ever

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ls tho, hell yea

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theres great things to be done with electronics in cars, but theyre not being made reliably

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stoic ledge
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Onboard computer is unaccurate imho

hexed arrow
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full tank does about 280miles/320miles (50% city driving and 50% motorway/50mph+ roads) with a full 55l tank so is slightly off

stoic ledge
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Yeah official numbers can never be achieved

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Atleast not with the NEDC

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Now with the WLTP, it's more realistic but still

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Also, ±300 miles om 55 l ? That's more fuel used then I would expect

hexed arrow
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FeelsBadMan_vertical the mpg on the motorway is good but in cities going 30 or less is monkaShakeG

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its a 2.0l petrol and chugs like a sports car

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and it only has 140bhp WotFok

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most inefficient Korean car out there

stoic ledge
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At least it has RWD

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Oh wait

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😂

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😛

hexed arrow
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its not peepoKms

stoic ledge
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I know 😛

hexed arrow
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next car, nissa 350z

stoic ledge
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Nice upgrade

hexed arrow
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im a student i cant afford that LUL

stoic ledge
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I feel ya

hexed arrow
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im looking at a audi a4/5

stoic ledge
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Why else do you think I drive a Corsa? xD

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Oof Audi's, that's a money pit

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xD

hexed arrow
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atleast you can pick up 15 year old girls at MacDonald's FeelsWinkMan

stoic ledge
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😉

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I know that meme

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My car has the same colour

hexed arrow
stoic ledge
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1.8TFSI... good luck

hexed arrow
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its a hit or mis

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they either dont break or turn into a heap of junk over night

stoic ledge
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True

hexed arrow
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im probably gonna keep my Hyundai for a while, although its a gas guzzler it is reliable and enjoyable to drive

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installing a audio setup this weekend aswell

stoic ledge
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Yeah getting a 4 year loan on an Audi is not a good idea tbh

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It will only cost more

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xD

hexed arrow
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hmmm old mercs are reliable (untill the body rots and turns into dust)

stoic ledge
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You're better off with a 3er or C-klass, then you'll also get RWD 😉

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Yeah get an old 190D

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stoic ledge
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Run it on vegetable oil

hexed arrow
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slav style

stoic ledge
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You can also get a 350Z for the same price as a A4/A5

warm sparrow
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350z are cheap

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~ 15k € for a pretty good one here

hexed arrow
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laughs in student debt

warm sparrow
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but there are mostly 350z spider so meh

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(i mean here, maybe not anywhere else)

stoic ledge
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They start from €9k here, but those are high milers

warm sparrow
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maybe in a year or 2 i could afford that

stoic ledge
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As long as i'm a student, i'm probably gonna keep the Corsa :p

hexed arrow
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you can pick up girls easily in that AstolfoWink

warm sparrow
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well at the end of this year i'll work

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so if i find a job in switzerland it would be cool 😎

hexed arrow
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im on £9k/year as a student at the moment (not paying any rent) and i still blow though all of it FeelsSadMusic

stoic ledge
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Picking up.girls has been succesful 😉

hexed arrow
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🐱 magnet

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feelskekgif my mum has a corsa, gonna try it out laughs in lonely

stoic ledge
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😂

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Corsa > Coupe any day xD

hexed arrow
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Coupe > Dignity > Corsa

stoic ledge
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😡

warm sparrow
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just found a 350z anniversary edition, 15.500€ , 67500Km

stoic ledge
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Inb4 Lloyd's 307 FAP

warm sparrow
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but it'"s yellow :/

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and i don't have 15k yet

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and i don't have a FAP neither

hexed arrow
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Sell a kidney GWpepeland200iq

stoic ledge
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You i know you've got the undestructibke one

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But FAP is Nice

hexed arrow
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why doesn't enjoy a good FAP? RemWink

warm sparrow
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my dad's car has a FAP

stoic ledge
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Nice

warm sparrow
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🤔

stoic ledge
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1.6 or 2.0 FAP ?

hexed arrow
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GWpepelandPepeplant lots of FAP in this channel

stoic ledge
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😏 😏 😏

warm sparrow
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2.0 136 i think

stoic ledge
midnight peak
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Your guyses thought on the Stinger GT?

hexed arrow
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its Pog

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but only the gt version

midnight peak
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yeah, the GT is a great value

stoic ledge
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I love it

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Looks cool

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Great handling

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Great price

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Most of them are diesel here tho, of 2.0T. GT 3.3 V6 has a 30k price premium here GWmythiFeelsBadMan

midnight peak
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#DieselLivesMatter

primal kelp
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@hexed arrow A5 is a fantastic car but anything under 3.0 is underpowered compared to its weight

hexed arrow
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@primal kelp good luck insuring a 3.0 when you are under 20, and have less than a year on your license feelskekgif

primal kelp
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I’m 21 and I have the 3.0TDI

hexed arrow
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being under 21 is a massive price difference

primal kelp
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Cost me less to insure than a 2.0 scirocco

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Where do you live

hexed arrow
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uk

primal kelp
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Same here

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My insurance prem was 2k for 25,000 a year

hexed arrow
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and the 1st year of insurance is always expensive, paying £1,600 insurance

primal kelp
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My old swift was £1200 on its first year and 850 on the second

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Goes down quick in first couple years and tails off after that

hexed arrow
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my coupe next year drops from £1600 to £700

primal kelp
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What do you have?

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Hyundai coupe?

hexed arrow
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2.0 gen3 coupe

primal kelp
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a what

hexed arrow
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hyundai coupe

primal kelp
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Ah right ok

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Oh the later model

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What’s that like to drive? I looked into it for my next car after the swift

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Ended up getting the A5 but hey

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I know they did a v6 in that model but they made it fwd so it’s a wasted v6

hexed arrow
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acceleration is meh, cornering is good, fuel economy is shite, comfortable leather seats, its got a sunroof.

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and its reliable

primal kelp
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A fair mix the

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*then

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A5 is a mixed bag too

hexed arrow
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im taking it to castle combe next month to see how it drives on a track

primal kelp
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Mine’s remapped to 302 and 600NM. Acceleration is violent, cornering is planted as all hell until it’s nothing but understeer, fuel economy when remapped is great for a 3.0 if you behave, interior is pure luxury. Sadly no sunroof but apparently will run to 250,000 miles

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How much are tickets for there?

hexed arrow
primal kelp
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forgot to mention, launches are spine shattering. AWD system means fucking business lmao

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Surprisingly cheap

hexed arrow
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they cancelled the one next month PepeHands

stoic ledge
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Pls tell me it's not the Multitrauma transmission in that Audi

primal kelp
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fuck off with your automatic shit

stoic ledge
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Ly2 buddy

primal kelp
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6spd manual

stoic ledge
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Better

primal kelp
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Multitronic is just asking for trouble

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Tiptronic is ok, S-Tronic is a good dsg box but has problems with clutch packs contaminating oil and wearing themselves out prematurely

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Anything with a CVT in it is just a problem waiting to happen

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Unless it’s like a Honda jazz or something that won’t see much abuse, makes sense there for efficiency

stoic ledge
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Good DSG box 😂

hexed arrow
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Dad's A6 3.0tdi is an S-Tronic. It drives great Pog

primal kelp
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no experience with them, just from what I’ve heard

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They’re ok until they aren’t

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Like, well, most things

hexed arrow
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sums up audi/bmw/merc "They’re ok until they aren’t"

stoic ledge
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Atleast they are not dry clutches

primal kelp
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Apparently I’ve been censored for using a word that means annoying

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Fml yeah

stoic ledge
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Like cheaper VAG shizzle, those dry clutch dsg are horrible

primal kelp
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My ma has an ea211 polo with a dry 7speed dsg

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It’s a fucking jerkbox

stoic ledge
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Ikr

primal kelp
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Once it’s actually going it’s ok but

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And the engine hunting around in RPM while it’s trying to find where to bite the clutch in

stoic ledge
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Yeah but the start

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Also they wear out waaay to fast

primal kelp
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How many miles

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Probably because it slam engages it so much

stoic ledge
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<60k often

primal kelp
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“Am I moving yet? Better slam the clutch in and out a few more times”

stoic ledge
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60k miles that is

primal kelp
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Gearbox like a learner driver

stoic ledge
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100k km

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I know

primal kelp
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Lmao my ma’s one has 23k on the clock

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The ea211 is a fucking horrible engine too

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It rattles so much

stoic ledge
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Oeh the chain ?

primal kelp
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And they’ve made it have some resonator to make it sound like a bigger engine lmao

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No it’s belt driven

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AFAIK it’s belt driven and the cams are chain linked

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Ea111 was chain driven timebomb engine

stoic ledge
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1.2 TSI?

primal kelp
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cams still make fucking awful rattling noise on engine decel tho

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Yeah 1.2 TSI 90

stoic ledge
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Yeah the modern VAG quality is GWloopyGok

primal kelp
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Nothing like my 3.0 CAPA

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fucking bulletproof lump of steel

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Apart from, you guessed it; timing chain tensopners

stoic ledge
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😄

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Classic

primal kelp
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Previous owner got them done tho

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So, I’m set for another 150,000 miles 👌👌

stoic ledge
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Nice

primal kelp
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I’ll be back in a bit, rowing machine time

stoic ledge
primal kelp
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3.0’s shockingly easy to service tbh

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I expected it to be German and complicated but, no

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Shame I’m gonna be doing that every 5000 miles 😂

stoic ledge
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😂

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Why so fast

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Isn't the interval like 20k miles ?

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Yeah if I searched correct, it's 30k km's (or about 20k miles)

primal kelp
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Mate 20k if you want your timing chains to fucking die

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Oil changes by the book are every 10k and Audi service is every 20k

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According to all known sources of 3.0tdi the cleaner you keep the oil the longer the chains will last

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Some people reccomend 7k, some 9, some 5. I can afford to do 5 so I will

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Costs me like 50 quid for the oil and twenty for the filter. Sump plug washers are plentiful in supply

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When I changed the oil on this the other day it was nearing a year since last service and had done 9300mi. Oil was fucking horrific. If that’s what 10k is gonna be like then 5k all the way

stoic ledge
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Tbh I'd consider that unexeptable for a diesel

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I mean 5k miles, I know people who do that every 2 months

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That's nuts

primal kelp
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It would probably do fine on 10k oil changes but I aim to make this engine last longer than the metalwork of the car so

fathom socket
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the new Toyota Supra gave me aids

shadow osprey
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@primal kelp I'd just say shitty air and old filter

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Wouldn't worry about it as long as the blade's tight and doesn't wiggle around

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And who the fuck waits 10k to change their oil?

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If you give even a single shit about your car, you change your oil every 5k

fathom socket
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10k miles WeirdChamp

shadow osprey
primal kelp
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@shadow osprey my old swift had 12k intervals, did that at 10. Then again it was a 1.2 petrol and the oil after 10k was still pretty clean. Suppose it depends on the fuel type and engine

stoic ledge
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If you give even a single shit about your car, you change your oil every 5k
Why would you do that ? For most cars it's unnecessary

primal kelp
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The cleaner you keep the oil the less deposits you get around the engine etc, longer it lives. Lots of cars using timing chains these days, timing chains want, no, literally demand clean oil

jagged wagon
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CBC marketplace did an investigation into the frequency of oil changes. Basically, there is a cut off on the efficiency curve of how clean you keep the oil vs. the time, money, and effort that goes into changing oil, even if you do it yourself. (which is really easy, by the way)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUS528M1ke0

How often should you change your engine oil? In a hidden camera investigation, we test what you're told at the dealership and then actually test your engine ...

▶ Play video
primal kelp
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That’s why people suggest doing short change intervals on the 3.0, it’s a diesel so it dirties it’s oil pretty quick and that has an impact on the life of the timing kit which you have to remove the whole engine to change

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Change the oil a bit more often or remove the whole ass engine from the car and rebuild the timing kit. No-brainer

stoic ledge
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I literally know nobody who changes it every 5k miles, just when it goes in for a service every year, or when the car tells them to if they drive more km's a year

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My interval is about 20k miles (30k kms) for a 1.2 petrol/LPG 😂

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I get it replaced once a year with every service

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And yes it has a timing chain

primal kelp
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That makes me die inside but at the very least a 1.2 isn’t going to put much strain on the chain

stoic ledge
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You're literally the first ever to tell me it needs to go in so often

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Even the dealership never tried to make me do an extra oil chsnge

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It's long life oil

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I do check the oil level regulary tho, and top it off if necessary

warm sparrow
#

Lol last time i changed my oil was like 2 years ago

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But i did like 20k Km

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Tho i should do it 🤔 when winter is gone maybe

primal kelp
#

Dealerships get money out of you if the engine blows up tho lmao

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Long life oil is a fallacy. Snake oil. “Run this for 20,000 miles and you’ll be able to see the dinosaurs re-forming in the sludge”.

Engines like clean oil - 1yr/10,000mi at a minimum is when you should change it. The oil filter obviously can only filter so much and the small bits pass through even when it’s absolutely clogged, but those small bits are still gonna be abrasive over time.

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Also yearly/10k changes are a good way to check the health of your engine - examining oil for metallic bits or whether it smells of fuel etc

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General gist of the article is “yeah it might last longer but it isn’t that different from the regular stuff, so why take the risk”

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I think EngineeringExplained’s video goes along the same lines

stoic ledge
#

Well i'm at about 10k miles (16000km) / year and I change it anually

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😉

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My parents have been driving all their cars with only one service/oil change a year for their entire life, never had an issue (and they drive about the same as me)

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I don't think dealerships will postpone an oil change to ruin your engine, that will only give the brand a bad name

hexed arrow
#

Boss just brought himself a new BMW 320d Msport 👌

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Looks nice

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It's still a diesel

stoic ledge
primal kelp
#

Diesels are ok in my books

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Except for the DPF

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Please tell me how I’m supposed to regenerate the DPF on a van while driving around inner London

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Why is it that some manufacturers are able to make nice sounding diesels that don’t clatter and others are like “lmao dude just make it sound like someone’s hitting the top of the pistons with a hammer”

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My A5 has a really rich purring sound at idle with no signs of clatter at all but my van, a 1.6 fiat, sounds like the rods are loose from the pistons and flailing around inside the crank case

stoic ledge
#

The ones that sound like the rods are loose from the pistons and flailing around inside the crank case tend to be the engines that will run forever

hexed arrow
#

What is your guys opinion on the mitsubishi 3000gt (twin turbo)

stoic ledge
#

Bloody expensive 😛

warm sparrow
#

About that oil, i kinda forget lol but i don't care, i'll probably get rid of this car in less than a year

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WE can get 4000€ if we buy à car that fits conditions (gas emission rate) so if you buy a 8000€ car, they take back yours (again if it fits conditions) and give you up to 4k

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Maybe i'll do that then, wait 6 monthes (the least to sell the car), and sell it for 7500k, then buy a good 96' / 98' vtec civic

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And at the end it would have cost me only about 4k (for this example) 😎

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(btw if i wanted to sell my car i could get maybe 1000€ xD)

hexed arrow
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2 most important things in a car, cruise control and cup holders

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Won't daily drive a car without those

stoic ledge
#

I've got no CC 😉

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Just keeping it floored, does that count ? xD

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I can retro fit it quite easy, but i'm too lazy

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Just swapping the indicator stalk and setting a mark in the ECU using Op-com (Vaux-com)

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My car has 7 cupholders, I don't know why. 1 in each door, 2 in the centre console just infront of the gear lever, so a large bottle won't work, 1 in the back of the centre console which I sacrificed for an armrest, and 1 in each rear panel

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@warm sparrow Is it like some Vehicle scrappage scheme ?

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Does it also apply on used cars ?

shadow osprey
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"it's long life oil"

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It's also your engine so do whatever you want lol

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I've never known any dealership or shop around me that recommends longer than 7500 miles

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20k miles lmfao I can't even imagine the color it must be

warm sparrow
#

@stoic ledge yes that's it and of course it does

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But it bust be a car from at least 2010 maybe and there is gas emition limit

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But you can get pretty decent cars like some with TDI 140

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Maybe a little a3 ^^

stoic ledge
#

Oh god, dieselgate TDI's

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Here it was only valid on brand new cars, not used

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And the program isn't active anymore

shadow osprey
#

Everyone deletes diesels anyways... No point in emissions lol

warm sparrow
#

But diesel is supposed to pollute too much...

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Anyway if it can make me earn money i won't say no

primal kelp
#

We can’t DPF delete over here which is right fucking annoying

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I’m not concerned about the power gain I just don’t want to have to replace the fucking thing when it inevitably blocks completely

stoic ledge
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Oeh yes clogged up DPF

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Drive at the motorway at max rpm, it will be clean in no time 😉

vital glen
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@stoic ledge italian tune up

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mr stalone

stoic ledge
#

Exactly

fathom socket
#

idk bout yall but id never push my oil past the regular service interval for full synthetic and i even like to change it 2k early since i am exclusivley buying used, so idk how kind the last owners have been to the things'

shadow osprey
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DEF and regen is worse than DPFs

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2k is completely unnecessary lol unless you like autocross on the weekend

gilded heron
#

@hexed arrow you use cruse control daily?

hexed arrow
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@gilded heron its called doing 30 miles on the motorway daily

gilded heron
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34.4, each way, daily, I don't use it.

hexed arrow
gilded heron
#

maybe im a masochist, because if it wasn't for traffic i would also drive a stick.

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im going to guess you are from the UK, so you probably have better drivers who can maintain a more consistent speed than the fucking asshats here in socal

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@hexed arrow am i correct?

hexed arrow
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@gilded heron yup

gilded heron
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speed here vaires from 60 to 85 in the fast lane

hexed arrow
#

although we have a lot of old people behind the wheel monkaShakeG

gilded heron
#

and people will cut you off at 65 when you are moving toward the next person up at 85 ish.

hexed arrow
#

bloody Susan returning from her bingo night slamming the brakes on a clear roundabout to check her gps

gilded heron
#

speed limit is usually 65, and 70 in the section closest to my house

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kek

hexed arrow
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retired people should have mandatory driving license re-tests

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or anyone who buys a bmw/merc/audi feelskekgif

gilded heron
#

drives a BMW

hexed arrow
#

Gun indicators are a thing use them

gilded heron
#

i do

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i hate the asshats that dont use them

hexed arrow
#

WotFok knock off bmw

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real bmw save weight and don't install them

gilded heron
#

i actually just bought replacements for mine, because they fell out, and i didnt feel safe driving without them.

hexed arrow
#

i guess there are exceptions to every rule patpat

gilded heron
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its a 2001 325i, the front ones had the clips break, and fell out.

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by american standards, BMW makes good cars.

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if maintained properly, they are more reliable than most american cars.

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same with mercs

hexed arrow
#

id just say modern American cars are trash quality

gilded heron
#

with the exception of Teslas, they are

hexed arrow
#

most*

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if you want reliability, 3.0tdi engine

gilded heron
#

yea, still a German car.

hexed arrow
#

or any toyota/nissan PEPESTANSip

gilded heron
#

right, also not american

hexed arrow
#

ford is 1/2 American right?

gilded heron
#

Ford is american

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its about as American as American gets for car manufacturers

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we can built Semis fine, because they are a commercial product.

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anything consumer, its trash

hexed arrow
#

i still don't get the Americans obsession with pickups

gilded heron
#

neither do i

hexed arrow
#

or the urge to send their Ford mustang into a crowd of people LUL

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is the US government shutdown still on?

gilded heron
#

if you need a truck, you probably need more than an F150

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and if you dont need a truck, cars get better mileage, and generally ride better.

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yes, it is

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31 days now.

hexed arrow
stoic ledge
gilded heron
#

in its 32nd

stoic ledge
#

More == better ;)

hexed arrow
#

tbf Brexit isn't any less of a clusterfuk

gilded heron
#

other exception to the BMW == trash driver rule, my brother.

hexed arrow
gilded heron
#

the not an exception in the family is my dad, he drives like a fucking asshat

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fits his merc just fine.

hexed arrow
#

Same with my dad and his Audi A6

stoic ledge
#

My brother has a BMW, can drive like a dick, but will always uses his indicators

hexed arrow
#

i just refer to him as "lord of the rings" to annoy him

gilded heron
#

see, i can drive like a "dick"

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thats because im late, and you are being slow (85, not 95)

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otherwise, road is empty, and i find driving on a windy road quite fun.

hexed arrow
#

i do drive like a dick in certain situations blobsweats

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last night over took 10 cars on a straight because the mongs couldnt over take a truck doing 40 on a 60 with ther jags, bmw, audi etc...

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imagine having a sports car and not even being able to use it LUL

gilded heron
#

may or may not have kept my engine over 3k RPM for that entire hill climb (probably like 15 minutes)

#

oh mother of god, people passing trucks is a fucking nightmare here

hexed arrow
#

on my way to work there is a 2mile straight with perfect visibility

stoic ledge
#

My engine is over 3000rpm the entire time when driving on the motorway GWsoraeThenkung

gilded heron
#

only 2 mile?

hexed arrow
#

Defiantly haven't raced my dad on there BlobFearSweat

gilded heron
#

that 3k was going around a corner at 40 ish

stoic ledge
#

Ah ofc

#

Assuming 40 == mph ?

gilded heron
#

after that was in the 5k range

hexed arrow
#

got to 120mph on a 60mph road

gilded heron
#

yes, freedom units.

hexed arrow
#

MonkaChrist police plox

stoic ledge
#

My car can't do 120mph

gilded heron
#

when im on the freeway (motorway for you) heading home, a good section is 2 lane.
semis are in the right lane, no problem, slow people stay there, until they are behind the semi
then these fuckwads get over, and dont speed up

hexed arrow
#

mine tops at 130mph PepeHands

gilded heron
#

so there is a giant backup of cars trying to pass a semi with a speed delta of like 3

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i was doing 100 up the final highway hill on my way home

hexed arrow
#

people who sit in the middle and right lane when the left is empty and do under the speed limit should be executed on the spot Gun

gilded heron
#

wide open lowest gear, let all 189 bhp work.

stoic ledge
#

@hexed arrow i'm happy when people sit in the right lane, and the left one is empty 😄

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189bhp is only 106 more then i have GWmythiFeelsBadMan

gilded heron
#

well, undertaking is legal in the US, sooooo

hexed arrow
#

you can undertake in the uk as long as you aren't above the speed limit

shadow osprey
#

@hexed arrow Idk about you but I use my pick up for ya know... pick up things

stoic ledge
#

Pick up chicks 😏

shadow osprey
#

And here in the US, the left lane is the fast lane 😉

#

Yeah, your mom's one heavy bitch very nice lady

stoic ledge
hexed arrow
#

Mk go pick up some girls from the McDonalds BlurpleKek

stoic ledge
#

I prefer KFC 😉

hexed arrow
#

remember to check ID, dont want them blobpolicedonut 200iq

stoic ledge
#

😅

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Can't promise

gilded heron
#

speed limit minimum*
FTFY

stoic ledge
#

^^ i agree on that one

shadow osprey
#

I second that agreement

hexed arrow
#

I third that agreement

stoic ledge
gilded heron
#

now, the real asshat drivers, are fucking RICErs

hexed arrow
#

honda civic / mx5 drivers

gilded heron
#

100% asshole concentration, no exceptions.

shadow osprey
#

miatas aren't bad

gilded heron
#

no no , civics are fine,
vtecibois on the otherhand.

shadow osprey
#

Not all the time

hexed arrow
#

Lawnmower bois? LUL

gilded heron
#

and prius.

hexed arrow
gilded heron
#

can we agree that if you drive a prius, your license should be immediately and permanently revoked?

hexed arrow
#

it looks faster than it is

shadow osprey
#

I don't care, more gas for me

hexed arrow
gilded heron
#

dorito

shadow osprey
#

dorioto?

gilded heron
#

dorito engines.

shadow osprey
#

5 doritos

hexed arrow
#

can we also ban all ford focus drivers?

gilded heron
#

plz

shadow osprey
#

Whatchu got against a focus

hexed arrow
#

the people that drive them

gilded heron
#

its a ford

#

thats not the new GT

shadow osprey
#

Oh so it's a Ford problem

stoic ledge
#

What's wrong with Focus drivers GWsoraeThenkung

shadow osprey
#

Lol the new GT isn't as good as the 05

hexed arrow
shadow osprey
#

You live in a weird country if that's true

stoic ledge
#

The older ones, yes

hexed arrow
#

welcome to the UK chav central

shadow osprey
#

No one cares about any focus that isn't an ST anyways

stoic ledge
#

More recent Focus drivers are fairly decent imho

hexed arrow
#

because the chavs cant afford the new focuses

shadow osprey
#

New Fiestas on the other hand...

stoic ledge
#

So ST > RS ?

hexed arrow
#

Rs > St

stoic ledge
#

@hexed arrow true

gilded heron
#

considering that the 2017 GT is lighter and has more HP, besides the better design from it being a newer car, i would say its a better car

stoic ledge
#

Same with Corsa's btw

shadow osprey
#

05 looks better ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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And ya know, V8

stoic ledge
#

New == decent, old == chavs

gilded heron
#

i think otherwise.

shadow osprey
#

wtf is a chav

gilded heron
#

v8 with 550hp vs v6 with 647

#

ill take the v6, thx

hexed arrow
#

chav
/tʃav/Submit
nounINFORMAL•DEROGATORY
a young person of a type characterized by brash and loutish behaviour (usually with connotations of a low social status).

shadow osprey
#

Think whatever you want ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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That's very mild

gilded heron
#

what is the problem with a v6?

hexed arrow
stoic ledge
#

It's missing 2 cylinders

warm sparrow
#

MK going murican

gilded heron
#

how?

hexed arrow
#

i've got a i4 PeepoCry

gilded heron
#

i4*

stoic ledge
#

Well I drive a GM car Lloyd 😉

shadow osprey
#

V4s are a thing

gilded heron
#

its still got 647hp, i dont see how thats a problem

warm sparrow
#

@hexed arrow some have a v3....

gilded heron
#

v4s exist, basically no car has one.

hexed arrow
#

we need a v1

warm sparrow
#

V3 or flat 3, dunno

gilded heron
#

hmm

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w3

hexed arrow
#

Y3

gilded heron
#

those, close to exist

warm sparrow
#

N3 ?

shadow osprey
#

I have no problem with the engine in the new GT lol, nor the power it makes. It's great. It's just meh. Follows the rest of EU, which i guess is to be expected. Doesn't sound very good either, as normal with a V6

gilded heron
#

Y18s exist

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pratt & whitney R-2800

warm sparrow
#

Did you see the next challenger will be hybrid ?

hexed arrow
#

Yea the hyundai coupe has a v4

#

was checking as i didn't remember

stoic ledge
#

Does it ?

shadow osprey
#

what is a hyundai coupe...

hexed arrow
#

2.0 v4 = 141 bhp, 2.7 v6 = 165bhp LUL

stoic ledge
#

Tiburon Tuscani

shadow osprey
#

Is there a model associated with this coupe

gilded heron
#

whats wrong with its sound?

stoic ledge
#

It's just called Hyundai Coupe here

warm sparrow
#

I want vtec honda

shadow osprey
#

A V6? I don't like it, that's what's wrong with it

hexed arrow
#

^my coupe

stoic ledge
#

^ his coupe

shadow osprey
#

^ that guy's coupe

hexed arrow
#

the previous owner curbed the wheels so much PeepoCry

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£500 for 4 alloy refurb

gilded heron
#

what do you think if i6 engines then?

shadow osprey
#

Most sound good. BMWs not so much

hexed arrow
#

brb

gilded heron
#

i think my car sounds fine

shadow osprey
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

ok

gilded heron
#

its an NA inline 6 BMW

shadow osprey
#

ok

#

They sound better than a lot of other engines, but they're not my favorite

hexed arrow
#

Civics with straight pipes make my ears bleed

gilded heron
#

anything with straight pipes will do that

shadow osprey
#

They make everyone's bleed

#

including the drivers

#

My truck is technically straight piped

#

If you don't include the turbo

#

It's not that loud

gilded heron
#

If you have a turbo, that's the best you can do.

warm sparrow
#

My car sounds good lol

shadow osprey
#

Turbos are basically mufflers

warm sparrow
#

With it's injector leaking noise

#

It makes "psht psht"

gilded heron
#

When you consider how a muffler works, they are.

shadow osprey
#

It makes psht psht from an injector?

idle geyser
#

^ That guys coupe from earlier

shadow osprey
#

^that coupe

hexed arrow
#

^my coupé

idle geyser
#

Lol

hexed arrow
#

Dis gut meme yis

warm sparrow
#

Yes @shadow osprey , it's a diesel and i need to fix it but i'm too lazy

stoic ledge
#

It's a Peugeot, maybe it will fix itself

shadow osprey
#

Ah tiny diesel. It'll be fine

warm sparrow
#

That's what i thought but it's been at least 3 monthes and it's still not fixed lol

stoic ledge
#

R.I.P

warm sparrow
#

Ride in peace, yeah

stoic ledge
#

^

warm sparrow
#

(seriously i have the parts but it's cold and i can't put my car in the garage so i don't wanna do it outside)

shadow osprey
#

Yeah it's been damn cold here too

stoic ledge
#

We're expecting snow GWseremePeepoGGERS

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1-3 cm (0.5-1 inch) which will probably shut down the entire country

shadow osprey
#

lmfaoo where?

stoic ledge
#

Because nobody can drive

#

🇳🇱

shadow osprey
#

NL?

stoic ledge
#

The Netherlands

#

Yes

shadow osprey
#

I'm from America, you think I'm cultured enough to recognize a flag?

#

the only thing I know is 🇺🇸

stoic ledge
#

No xD

#

We did did have Dutch colonies there ;)

shadow osprey
#

Nah I just don't know anything about netherlands

stoic ledge
#

New York (New Amsterdam) and shit xD

shadow osprey
#

Aren't you guys like in the north?

#

We get 6 inches and everyone goers to work the next day

warm sparrow
#

lol Cereal xD

shadow osprey
#

And I'm not even in the north of the US

warm sparrow
#

so people can't drive in NL?

warm sparrow
#

well it's the same everywhere ...

#

maybe not in the 3 northern countries

shadow osprey
#

Yeah you're way farther north than me

warm sparrow
#

they always a have snow so...

stoic ledge
#

Well they can't drive if there is more then 0.5mm of snow

warm sparrow
#

i know that

shadow osprey
#

So the width of one snow flake

stoic ledge
#

Exactly

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Also: i don't have winter tyres (:

warm sparrow
#

even if there isn't snow on the road, just some bits on the sides, people drive like fuckin 89 yo lady

stoic ledge
#

Tru

warm sparrow
#

also: i always have winter tires lol

stoic ledge
#

:boi:

warm sparrow
#

(don't have room for another set of wheels and you better always have winter tires than no winter tires at all)

shadow osprey
#

I was gonna buy a set of all terrains for my stock wheels but got poor, so I'm rocking summer tires lol

stoic ledge
#

I disagree xD

#

Summer tyres alm the way

#

Why would I buy tyres which benefit me 3 days a year, but suck 362 days a year? xD

warm sparrow
#

dude you haven't seen the road to go to my house

#

even with winter tires it's hard to climb when there is snow...

stoic ledge
#

No i understand, but here it's not worth it

warm sparrow
#

and my front tires are the same that were on the car when i had it more than 2 years ago and they are still good

shadow osprey
#

all terrains can benefit you 365 days a year if you drive your car right 😉

warm sparrow
#

for what car @shadow osprey ?

shadow osprey
#

Any

stoic ledge
#

All terain for a freaking Corsa GWsoraeThenkung

shadow osprey
#

Yus

stoic ledge
#

Not available in my size

#

I've checked

#

xD

warm sparrow
#

put bigger wheels

#

problem solved

shadow osprey
#

Buy another size... you don't need exact size tires. 235/45 and 245/45 are basically the same

stoic ledge
#

205/60/16 is available, but then i'll need a liftkit too

#

Stock is 195/55/16

shadow osprey
#

195 lol you got some donuts

stoic ledge
#

So 205/60 won't fit

#

Hey my parents 2003 Corsa had 175's xD

#

Lower trims of my Corsa have 185's

warm sparrow
#

mine is 195

shadow osprey
#

I would never drive a car with that skinny of a tire

#

Every corner I'd feel like I'm about to fly off

stoic ledge
#

17" rims have 205 of 215, depending on the installed suspension

#

It's not that bad actually

#

Goes around corners quite well

warm sparrow
#

no cereal that's jsut because you are a murican

#

in reality, it doesn't go anywhere

shadow osprey
#

I like em thicc

warm sparrow
#

i know lol

shadow osprey
#

Jk not really

stoic ledge
#

195 is enough for my whopping 83hp

#

The OPC/VXR has 225's (:

shadow osprey
#

Believe it or not, not all Americans like fat things, nor are they all fat

#

You'd be surprised

#

I like fat tires. That's about it

warm sparrow
#

tbh

#

i know

#

i like fat tires too

#

but i don't have the budget for fat car with fat tires

#

and fat engine

#

in murica, everybody has big cars so..

#

i mean bigger cars than europe

#

not necessarily F150

shadow osprey
#

Yeah you all drive cardboard boxes

stoic ledge
#

Yeah but still, calling stuff like a Camry a commuter car which is bigger then 90% of the family cars around here

shadow osprey
#

I can hardly fit in the back seat of a camry

#

Like you move the front seat all the way up and then I'm... not uncomfortable. I won't say comfortable though lol

stoic ledge
#

It's really large for European standards lol

shadow osprey
#

Just cause the car seems big doesn't make the back seat big

stoic ledge
#

We had a Peugeot 307 as family car, which is about the size of a Golf Wagon

#

Or Alltrack or whatever version you've got over there

shadow osprey
#

Man that is one ugly car

stoic ledge
#

Golf or 307 ?

shadow osprey
#

307

stoic ledge
#

@warm sparrow kill him

shadow osprey
#

You like that?

stoic ledge
#

Lloyd owns a 307 xD

shadow osprey
stoic ledge
#

We had a 307 Break/SW (wagon)

#

Yeah we did have that car

shadow osprey
#

It's literally a worse Honda fit

stoic ledge
#

Only the pre facelift

#

It was a pretty car back the

#

Them*

#

Then*

shadow osprey
#

Somehow, I doubt that

stoic ledge
#

It was the best selling car of 2003

#

So I'm not the only one

shadow osprey
#

That doesn't mean shit about it's looks lol

stoic ledge
#

/shrug if it was ugly nobody would buy it

shadow osprey
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That's like saying a Toyota Sienna is the best selling minivan because it looks good

warm sparrow
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i kill you mudafuka

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307 is noice

stoic ledge
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^^

shadow osprey
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As long as I don't have to drive it

warm sparrow
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i mean, it's not beautiful but it's pretty ok

stoic ledge
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I still thinks it looks ok

shadow osprey
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You seem more reasonable than MK

stoic ledge
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I mean it's a design from 2001

warm sparrow
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the face lifted 307 is worst but the original model is not bad

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i mean, it's from 2001 so...

stoic ledge
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Beat you to it buddy 😛

warm sparrow
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🖕

stoic ledge
warm sparrow
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eat this my friend

shadow osprey
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You know what else was from 2001? The E46 lol

warm sparrow
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not the same price...

stoic ledge
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E46 was only about €10k more

shadow osprey
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If it looks better ¯_(ツ)_/¯

warm sparrow
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even now, E46 is at least 5k more i'd say

shadow osprey
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idk any cheap euro brands since all US models are expensive there

warm sparrow
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@shadow osprey in europe when you don't really have much money, you don't take a car for how it looks

shadow osprey
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I'd rather buy a $1000 ranger than a $1000 civic

stoic ledge
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307's were quite spacious, well equipped, good driving and good engines, while looking good + not being too expensive

shadow osprey
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I'd still hold back on the looking good part

stoic ledge
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I don't remember anyone critisising the design

shadow osprey
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but I'll give you the rest since I don't know anything about it

warm sparrow
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i bought my car 1,5 K, it has 307k Km and it drives good

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it's a noice car, it'spacious, interior is better than modern cars

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it's comfortable

shadow osprey
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I never said it wasn't

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I just don't know how you sit in such tiny rear seats

stoic ledge
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For the size it's pretty big inside

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Imho

warm sparrow
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-_-

stoic ledge
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It was even available as a 7 seater lol

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But that was rubbish

shadow osprey
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Sounds like a nightmare xD

warm sparrow
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you can put 2 fat guys easily at the back of a normal 307

stoic ledge
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5 seater waa fine

shadow osprey
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What are some comparably sized cars

stoic ledge
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Golf Wagon

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Focus Wagon

shadow osprey
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Golfs are small

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Focuses are too

stoic ledge
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Well there you go

warm sparrow
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but i think we don't have the same notion of "fat guy"

stoic ledge
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Our family cars

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Mazda 3 Hatchback, Toyota Corolla Hatchback

shadow osprey
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I'm 6'3" 150lbs. Er... 68kg or so. I'm not fat. I'm also not fitting in your rear seat

stoic ledge
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What else do you have over at your side

shadow osprey
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We have all of those except peugeot

stoic ledge
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6'3" ? I'm 6'4" 😛

shadow osprey
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No citroen or seat or anything like that

stoic ledge
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Yeah I know, i was thinhing of comparable cars you also have

shadow osprey
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no renault either

warm sparrow
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@shadow osprey wtf .. i had a friend who was probably about 120Kg at least and he fitted at the rear very well

stoic ledge
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I know the ones i've named are available (we call the Corolla different: Auris)

shadow osprey
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Did you read nothing I said...

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weight isn't the only factor lol

warm sparrow
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you can't really use the 3 rear places but 2, no problem

shadow osprey
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You can be 300lbs and only 5'2

stoic ledge
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3 works fine if you're not too fat

warm sparrow
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i know but i mean, 2 at the rear is fine, it's comfortable

stoic ledge
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Atleast in the Wagon

shadow osprey
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what is that, like 120kg and 1.6m

warm sparrow
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you don't have that much room for you legs but if you don't do 500Km journey it's ok

stoic ledge
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journez 👀

warm sparrow
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@stoic ledge works but it's not very comfy

stoic ledge
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Depends, it was fine for <100km trips

warm sparrow
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when you're a kid yes

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but after...

shadow osprey
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^

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MK your shortness is showing

stoic ledge
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We used it for 3 when my brother was already > 18 years old and I was already over 1.80 (6ft) so not really "kids" sized

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Anyway my parents now have a Meriva 😂 GWloopyGok

warm sparrow
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hm

stoic ledge
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Does have a slide backseats tho

shadow osprey
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It's probably bigger than the back of an extended cab truck. Oh man... that's just torture

stoic ledge
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Yeah I don't understand those

shadow osprey
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Useful for... my jacket lol

stoic ledge
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Well I actually almost never use the back seats

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a) It's small (Fiesta sized)
b) It's a 3-door

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Usually I throw my jacket in the trunk

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But that's not really possible with a pickup

shadow osprey
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What trunk

shadow osprey
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... What is even the point of that

stoic ledge
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To be able to licence it as a commercial vehicle

warm sparrow
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lol wtf is this MK

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looks like shit and it's probably shit

stoic ledge
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VW designed the Amarok like stupid

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Didn't pass our regulation as a commercial vehicle

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Unless you put in this devider

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Besides it having crap 2.0TDI's which break all the time

warm sparrow
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so no reaction about my "joke" ?

shadow osprey
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vw made a pick up lol

stoic ledge
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I don't get the joke 😉

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Yup they did

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Sadly enough

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It sucks

shadow osprey
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I looked it up

stoic ledge
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4 doors but no back seat GWloopyGok

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They actually made a long bed version just for the Netherlands

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So they can have it licenced as a commercial vehicle while having rear seats

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And when i mean they made a long bed version... I mean they build a normal version in Brazil, shit it to Belgium where they add about 20cm (8 inch) to the bed, and then ship them to here

shadow osprey
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logic

warm sparrow
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the Trunk @stoic ledge ....

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cmon

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you know Dragonball right...?

stoic ledge
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I know them, but that's about it

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Here you can see the extended bit

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It's just welded on

night current
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LOL

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That's pretty bad, not gonna lie.

jovial mauve
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Nice weather

stoic ledge
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^^ @shadow osprey this is what I was talking about, 1cm of snow and the entire country is shut down 😛

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1600km of traffic jams (1000 miles)

warm sparrow
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-_-

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worst than france

stoic ledge
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File == traffic jam

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Yes it's horrible

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Todag @ 17:44```
(12 minutes ago)
warm sparrow
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is 95% of NL's population over 75 yo?

stoic ledge
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Strangely enough, it's not

warm sparrow
stoic ledge
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@17:44 it was 2303km apparently

jovial mauve
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Meh it was a truck that slided down

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Tomorow is going to be worse

stoic ledge
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Luckily for me I don't have to go anywhere tomorrow 😛