cars

[carmine summit]

@vital glen I mean one foot for accelerator and brake

[coral linden]

Do I want a Jeep JK 2 year lease for $38 bi weekly

That's almost what I pay for parking

[tropic zodiac]

me out doing pizza deliveries last night
Super bright LEDs in my eyes
Move lanes
Watch the car drive past me
Realize it's a McLaren P1
Stare in awe
Downtown San Antonio is awesome sometimes.

[vital glen]

crashes into said P1

[coral linden]

the 12c is a fun car, i'm sure P1 is that many more funs

$38/week+tax and licensing, $1500 down, 18000km a year on a JK 2 door sport 2 year lease. not sure on features, so tempting

[vital glen]

dew it

[rare urchin]

Do it

[vital glen]

@rare urchin You know what
drag/track cars turned into street cars

very fun

[rare urchin]

They are

[rare urchin]

I like the part of them wrapping around trees

Oh wait those are mustangs

[carmine summit]

And red Carrera GTs

[coral linden]

15 years and i haven't wrapped any of mine around a tree.

[vital glen]

@coral linden 15 too years too long

[coral linden]

k

[vital glen]

mustangs like trees

they need to be together

[lime copper]

I don't see the correlation.

[coral linden]

supposedly only Mustangs hit trees, dunno.

[lime copper]

I've seen more Porsches nosedive from a mountain than Mustangs wrapped around a tree.

[vital glen]

well mustangs are associated with teens/young adults getting their first rwd cars

and can't control them

[lime copper]

Since when can teens afford them?

[vital glen]

parents

[lime copper]

Ew.

[coral linden]

I got mine at 18 for $4600

[vital glen]

also you can buy them fairly cheap

[lime copper]

I'm more of a German vehicle person myself.

[coral linden]

I was tired of pushing my Plymouth Sundance into the parking spot at school

[lime copper]

o _o

[vital glen]

https://youtu.be/8U9UCS5WPzc?t=4m20s

[coral linden]

people showing off

[vital glen]

funny as hell

[coral linden]

i've seen people do that leaving car meets constantly, doesn't matter what car

[vital glen]

but is a mustang

inherently funnier

[coral linden]

k

[vital glen]

Stop driving a prius @lime copper

[lime copper]

Only electric car I'd ever drive is made by Tesla or BMW.

Nice try, Toyota.

[vital glen]

BMW i3Rex

ewwwwwwwwww

[lime copper]

You also can't insult Jake's car brand in this Discord.

[vital glen]

bmw

[lime copper]

Which is BMW.

[vital glen]

is overpriced

garbage

[coral linden]

every dingbat here drives a beat to shit 3 series

[lime copper]

@pallid sky permission to

[coral linden]

saw some huge douche get out of one with no shirt on

[vital glen]

ugly car

[lime copper]

At least it's electric.

[coral linden]

i might buy a Bolt if it means I don't have to walk half a km to work lol

[vital glen]

lol

[coral linden]

from my parking spot.

[vital glen]

it's a hybrid

at least's it;s electric

[coral linden]

it's fine when it's nice, sucks in the rain

[vital glen]

what?

[lime copper]

But is it electric, too? Yes it is.

[vital glen]

Do you only like electrics?

[coral linden]

i'm the worst at making decisions on buying anything

[vital glen]

/hybrid?

[coral linden]

took me 6 months to buy my impreza after murdering bambi

[vital glen]

lol

[coral linden]

took a year to decide on the csrt4

[lime copper]

I'd prefer a Tesla, but if not a 3 or 5 is fine.

[vital glen]

so gtfo

the best car is

the prius

duh

[lime copper]

We're talking dreamcars right?

[vital glen]

My dream car is a 68 camaro fastback

mmmmmmmm

[lime copper]

Why not an Impala, lol.

[lime copper]

https://www.tenor.co/psaT.gif

^ Impala

[vital glen]

don't show me no

fucking

[coral linden]

i want a restomod 68 mustang fastback

[vital glen]

supernatural

[lime copper]

!jumbo

[coral linden]

some guy asked me if i was on supernatural yesterday

[lime copper]

I haven't seen that show in years.

[coral linden]

i have my work ID on a Fan Expo lanyard, he's like were you on a panel there?

[vital glen]

oooof

[lime copper]

o _o

[coral linden]

he may have been really high

[vital glen]

or were you higher in the skier?

[lime copper]

No, that's the normal level of intelligence these days

[vital glen]

Well you see here

stop it

you want a model 3

[coral linden]

i'll consider a model 3 when they can make more than 2500 in a month

[vital glen]

So in 5-10centuries?

[lime copper]

2500 what in a month

[coral linden]

model 3s.

or was it 1500

[vital glen]

it was 15

[lime copper]

So you want a tin can with nothing in it?

[coral linden]

what?

[lime copper]

Or something thoroughly put together and tested

[coral linden]

I'm saying it'll be backordered forever

[vital glen]

@coral linden Hey man, you have to wait

[coral linden]

apparently their QC on the 1500 a day is shit

[vital glen]

because if you like tesla

you have to wait

if you want them to speed up production

[coral linden]

I'll wait for some actual infrastructure

[vital glen]

just wait

[lime copper]

Insults really expensive highly-credited car brand
... ok then.

[vital glen]

Insulting the fanbois

not the company

ok maybe both

[coral linden]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-quality-insight/build-fast-fix-later-speed-hurts-quality-at-tesla-some-workers-say-idUSKBN1DT0N3

[lime copper]

All car brands have fans.

Who reads the news anymore.

It's all fake.

[vital glen]

leave

[coral linden]

dunno people who don't talk with their ass

[lime copper]

And by fake, I mean opinions.

[vital glen]

reuters is litterally just the facts

[lime copper]

"some workers say"

Then why didn't they tell their supervisor.

[coral linden]

"some guy on the internet not related to the company"

they probably do, supervisors say make the car bitch

[vital glen]

wow it's like you have worked before

[lime copper]

"some guy on the internet that assumes too much"

[coral linden]

call me when they have more than one charger within 200km of here

[vital glen]

oooooooof

People who buy teslas are buying gen 1.5 products

[coral linden]

like I said, I'll consider one when they're further along

i'd want an AWD version anyway

[vital glen]

model 3 has awd

but you have to wait 10years to get it

[coral linden]

not yet

but yeah

[vital glen]

fanboys

make my head hurt

[civic spoke]

@lime copper I've heard that Triumph's like to hug Porsches.

[fallow crescent]

Rip the catalytic converter in my Miata.
I knocked it loose (it was already rusting at the joint and I was planning on replacing it in about a month) on a piece of ice that came off a car in front of me

[tropic zodiac]

Got into 2 car accidents in a single day. First I backed into a Ford explorer when on a delivery. I was at a bar, I found the guy who owned it, he was illegal and didn't have insurance. My car was fine, his had a small dent.

Then on my way back to the shop, on a turn, a guy couldn't stay in his lane. Turned into me. We both looked, minor aesthetic damage, just our paint scratched

Mines only scratched on the wheel well, while he has a giant white scratch on the right side of his car

Both accidents could have been way worse. Im glad they weren't. BUT 2 IN LESS THAN AN HOUR

[civic spoke]

Rough.

[rare urchin]

Stay safe out there dude @tropic zodiac

[vital glen]

@tropic zodiac
Hey man, stop crashing into people.
It's like you are a magnet.
How much is this gonna cost you to fix?

[merry gate]

Fuck

[vital glen]

Who did that to your jazz?

[merry gate]

Some motorcyclist

He ran too fast, lost control and slammed into the taillight

[vital glen]

Ooog

[merry gate]

Damage isn't too bad thankfully

Gonna get a replacement left taillamp assembly from a wreckers

[vital glen]

@merry gate kool

[coral linden]

hope he's paying for it

[vital glen]

^^^^

lol no it's a cyclist

they don't pay shit

you pay them

duh

@coral linden

[coral linden]

anyone using a radio like these https://www.amazon.ca/Best-Car-Radio-Bluetooth-Subwoofer/dp/B0778KRNWG/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1519577141&sr=8-10&keywords=android+car+radio

[vital glen]

Yeah I use a head unit like that @coral linden

[coral linden]

are they any good or trash

[vital glen]

depending where you get it

some are litterally trash

like built like it

feels like it

some are nice

I can't speak for all

[meager grove]

Damn dude rip that Jazz

[rare urchin]

Well atleast nothing bad happened

[coral linden]

tis a butt scratch

[pallid sky]

who is shit talking 3 series

😦

[vital glen]

It's me dawg

[pallid sky]

i3's are lit

[vital glen]

no

they are not

bmw handicapped the us version

it's mediocre at best

[coral linden]

needs better range

and holy crap bmw's website is awful

[vital glen]

needs better everything

[coral linden]

more info on the cars on wikipedia

holy crap. the i3 i was looking at earlier is 65k

it has a range extender so it's not useless on the highway but still

M4 better be damn good for $94k

[civic spoke]

The i3 is for people who want a posh electric vehicle.

It's in a similar price range as the Model 3? I think.

[vital glen]

It's hybrid

lol

[coral linden]

it's both

[vital glen]

does it come in fully electric?

[coral linden]

you can get battery only or one with range extender

[vital glen]

oh yeah

either way

it sucks

[carmine summit]

It has its uses

[vital glen]

traveling around europe?

[carmine summit]

that is one

[coral linden]

if they put more electric chargers in at work then i'll consider a Bolt

[vital glen]

get a volt

[coral linden]

they have them for fleet vehicles

[carmine summit]

If they put more chargers in everywhere I'd consider electric swapping something

[vital glen]

Prius > all cars

I wouldn't I already dropped a lot of money on my cars

[carmine summit]

I have no money into a car at this point

[coral linden]

i've put maybe 1k in repairs in my impreza since 2012

[vital glen]

I have put like 10k in mods

and many more to come

[coral linden]

axle, steering rack, two power steering pumps

[vital glen]

project cars

[coral linden]

if i keep it i'll need to do the timing belt

i'm at 120k km but 8 years soon so i'll have to do it. it looks like it was done but i have no records

[carmine summit]

I just don't have a car

[lime copper]

I've been in a i3 going 120 mph at the BMW Performance Center. Trust me when I say they're not handicapped.

Especially when the driver decides to drift that speed around a 180 turn

Then again... it may have been an M3...

[vital glen]

that sounds like an m3

not an i3

[lime copper]

Either way, the i3 is no joke.

Z1's are a joke.

[vital glen]

the i3 top speed is 83mph

also it is handicapped in the us

you have to load in the european firmware

[lime copper]

Put a Dinan chip in it.

Then see how fast it goes.

[vital glen]

it has a 170hp

it weighs

[lime copper]

US gov't regulation, i think.

[vital glen]

no

[lime copper]

Whatever.

[vital glen]

I mean

a model 3

does everything better

though, getting your hands on them

is a pain in the asss

[lime copper]

whatever floats your boat. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[coral linden]

will they void your warranty

they don't list the i3 on the site anyway

[meager grove]

I3s are pretty good

For short commutes to work

Very snappy car

[civic spoke]

The i3 has like 170 hp I think.

More than enough power for its intended uses.

Which is daily driving in cities.

[meager grove]

Yeah

Plus it's electric power

[coral linden]

needs awd

[civic spoke]

Instant torque.

[coral linden]

snow

maybe i'll keep the impreza, raise it an inch or so, battlewagon

[civic spoke]

As I said, it's meant for larger cities. Where snow is less of an issue.

[coral linden]

way too slow though.

[civic spoke]

And you can also get snow tires for the i3.

[coral linden]

well, when it's actively snowing the plows don't always keep up

2 weeks ago it was a nightmare and having awd was great

[civic spoke]

People forget that AWD only helps you to get you moving.

And that it doesn't actually help you to stop.

[coral linden]

I don't.

I have snow tires

[dusty girder]

Tesla Model S if your going electric

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[coral linden]

60k is my upper limit if the car is worth it

[dusty girder]

oh

[coral linden]

I need to buy a house so I can't blow all my money on a car

[dusty girder]

province?

[coral linden]

ontario

[dusty girder]

ummm

hmmm the only reason i would say to get a tesla because of superchargers

[granite tendon]

if they exist in your country/state

[dusty girder]

in ON

they do

ontrario

[coral linden]

there's one that I know of about 30 minutes away

why there's none in the city I have no f'n clue

[dusty girder]

@coral linden you know... if you get a Model S with a referral you can get free unlimited supercharging

[granite tendon]

like, I'd go for an i3 REx over Tesla, being 110-120km from the nearest cities (Wagga & Albury), and the only cities I can see Superchargers being placed in are Canberra, Sydney & Melbourne.

[dusty girder]

Idk if it would be worth it but unlimited supercharging for life of ownership...

you would save on fuel

[coral linden]

until they put one in the city it's 100% useless

I'm not driving 30 minutes to get free charging

there's none even planned

[dusty girder]

I wonder if ontario has some sort of rebate if you go electric

[coral linden]

14k on over a certain kwh

[granite tendon]

I'd be driving for like 4-6 hours just to get to a Supercharger if I went with Tesla. at least with the i3 REx I can charge off a regular 240V 50Hz mains and top up with Diesel if I need the extra distance.

[dusty girder]

I mean like you can charge at your home

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[granite tendon]

Diesel is about as friggen expensive as E10/91 Unleaded here now at about $1.33 AUD/Litre

[coral linden]

if I was getting a range extended i'd get a Volt over a 65k car that is looking like a fiat multipla

91 was 1.20 today, 87 $1.069

[dusty girder]

hmmm

[granite tendon]

we only get 91/E10, 95 & 98 out here. like $1.90/L for 98 Unleaded

[coral linden]

and Sierra I'd need a 240V line to my garage and that'll cost me a lot

[dusty girder]

240v?

you don't need to

you can use 120v

[coral linden]

Bolt takes 44 hours to charge on 120

[dusty girder]

hmm

[coral linden]

I have a book from the autoshow somewhere

[dusty girder]

you don't have 240v line to your house?

[coral linden]

not to the garage

[dusty girder]

oh

[coral linden]

if I build a house I'll for sure have it for charging and welder/air compressor

[granite tendon]

240V is Euro/AusNZ standard. :P

[coral linden]

my brother bought one that's hard wired 240v but he hasn't got that wired yet, at this rate I'll trade him my 120v lol

[granite tendon]

bah, screw my net... AGAIN

[coral linden]

yeah we hate high voltage

mainly ovens and clothes driers

[dusty girder]

hmmm

[vital glen]

Go plug a 120v hair drier in.a 960v out let

[granite tendon]

insert Home Alone 2 scene here :P

[vital glen]

Yes

[coral linden]

hmm 38k for a 2011 Raptor

[vital glen]

Do it

[coral linden]

70k for a 2017

[vital glen]

Do you want to pay 70k for a raptor

[coral linden]

I'll trade in the Lightning maybe they'll drop the price to 68k

[vital glen]

Lol

69k*

[static fox]

Linus should get a Tesla model x

[carmine summit]

nah

[vital glen]

linus should buy a model s @carmine summit
and paint it pink

[carmine summit]

Teslas are overrated

[fathom socket]

fucking goddamn it redbull

the testing livery was so much better

GRRRR

[civic spoke]

The Tesla is way too much money for Linus.

They already have the Honda Odyssey, or whatever it is.

[fathom socket]

Civic i think?

[plucky pier]

the lambo

[civic spoke]

They have two cars.

The Lambo doesn't suit all of their family needs.

[vital glen]

but it is the lambo

he lambo

is faster than

all cars

and handles better than all

it has more downforce

than all of you 10ft wings

@fathom socket

[fathom socket]

nah not down for shit posting rn

got some stuff i need to do

[vital glen]

k

have fun

[civic spoke]

https://twitter.com/linusgsebastian/status/761982817911738368

Linus Sebastian (@linusgsebastian)

It's official. I'm a minivan driver..

Likes

336

Twitter

Couldn't find a picture of the whole car. But I'm pretty sure that it's an Odyssey.

[vital glen]

Wow

Linus lost his Lamborghini card

Even Honda responded

[civic spoke]

(They got that minivan back in August, 2016)

[vital glen]

I know

I read the date

[carmine summit]

should have bought a VW Tiguan. They're better as long as you don't need to seat 7 people, which Linus probably doesn't.

[rare urchin]

You never know

Cause family

[civic spoke]

I mean. Linus got a vasectomy.

[coral linden]

3 kids but maybe he needs junk in the trunk.

minivans are great

[rare urchin]

I mean like grandparents, cousins etc

[civic spoke]

Coworkers.

[vital glen]

no

[carmine summit]

So he could get a VW Atlas

[civic spoke]

Minivan is probably more roomy.

Hadn't heard of that Atlas before. I guess it something just for the American market.

It looks too damn American. Don't like it.

Huh, the Touareg has a much lower MSRP here in Sweden compared to USA.

[vital glen]

@carmine summit too American for you?

[carmine summit]

nah

I like american cars

[vital glen]

I meant @civic spoke

[carmine summit]

lol

[civic spoke]

Never cared too much about the Camaro.

Notchback Mustang tho.

Matt Farah's Mustang is fire. @vital glen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR9iDaL_QrY

[vital glen]

Model S
Model 3
Model X

[civic spoke]

They are all decent cars for what they are. But they are underwhelming in tems of quality control, as well as fit and finish.

I would say that other manufactureres has the upper hand there.

[candid rune]

well if you consider that tesla was almost nothing a decade ago, the progress they're making in just making the fit and finish of their cars is amazing

but then again, they

they

they're catering to a market that wants the best in terms of everything, especially build quality

i've seen examples of model xs from 2013 that still retain a lot of their battery capacity

I wonder how reliable teslas will be in the long run

[fathom socket]

im going to say reliability wise they wont be great after 10 years without replacing the batteries and regular maintenance on the electrical systems and drivetrain

since your phones battery goes to shit after 2 years

i'd say after 10 you would need to replace every single cell

if not even earlier if you wanted to maintain range

just seems like the most disposable vehicle i've seen its so loaded with tech if theres a problem it wont work at all

like you can have low oil level and you can top it up

even without knowing what your doing

if it has a computer failure

im going to say its going down for a long time

[coral linden]

Hopefully they won't be like power tools. Oh we changed the battery type gotta buy a new car

[fathom socket]

most likely they will be

since why would they keep the standard the same between models if they can just sell you a new one

[coral linden]

Just need connector and voltage and maybe a firmware update

[fathom socket]

well yeah

but most users wont go through that hassle

especially if the charging circuitry changes

it would be even worse if they hardware lock out on new batteries unless you took it to tesla

[coral linden]

Probably

[fathom socket]

they would do that knowing the company strategy

i personally like koenigseggs approach

everything is adjustable

and fixable

but doesnt need to run on just one kind of fuel

they can run on race gas

pump gas

or even biofuel

[coral linden]

91 is too damn expensive

Regular went from 1.07 to 1.20 today

1.263

[civic spoke]

With the battery cell for the Tesla cars. I'm sure that there will be third party companies around to refurbish those batteries. Or just reuse them for other stuff (there are already people doing just that).

[candid rune]

i thought teslas use panasonic cells

[civic spoke]

There is still the issue that if one bank fails, then the whole pack is useless for that car.

But you're able to use the rest for your own projects. Be it power banks or to power another car.

[heady ridge]

so im getting this in may

its my mums 2006 ford falcon 6 cylinder barra engine

what it looks like inside (using this since the proper one that matches the car is dirty and i need to vaccum it)

[vital glen]

@heady ridge is it riding on a spare?

[granite tendon]

Ford Falcon, 6-cyl, right-hand drive... that fencing... Aussie much? :P

[heady ridge]

@vital glen missing hub cap

dont forget the semi auto transmission

[granite tendon]

heh, yeah you be an Aussie boy XD

[heady ridge]

oh trust me thats not even my first car

89 ford laser with

this exact sticker that is now something you wont see

[granite tendon]

heh, the Ford Laser, Mazda 626. only effing difference? the badges and what's written for the make/model in the manual! :P

[heady ridge]

yea the laser and 323 are basicly the same its why im going to miss it cause if need be i could order parts from the us

[vital glen]

wdym smei-auto

trans?

[heady ridge]

yea see the small cutout in the trans down near drive

[vital glen]

mhm

[heady ridge]

its clutchless manual giving you controll on gears without a clutch pedal

[vital glen]

ok

[granite tendon]

right, 323, been so effing long man

[heady ridge]

yep and it means if i strip out first i can put it into the semi auto and go to second

[vital glen]

but it's a v-6

put in a v8

get a jaguar

aj-v8

[heady ridge]

yea but also means if i need to keep it in a gear i can force it to stay there

nah next step is a 4x4

cause car stuff :P

[vital glen]

have fun overheating your engine

[heady ridge]

thats why theres magic things infront of a radiator called a fan

[granite tendon]

honestly, I'm seriously tempted to get like an i3 REx, for once I get around to getting my license... then again I keep getting panic attacks over trying to kick over the '03 X-Trail we got as it's our only mode of transportation and I don't want to risk crashing it (even at friggen 30!) >.>

[heady ridge]

lol use the brakes i do every time cause i know that it will give that jolt

[granite tendon]

like, I can't even kick over the effing engine in the X-Trail without panic attack striking

I can put it to accessories position to work the windows and radio, but actually trying to kick it over I get a panic attack of "what if I accidentally flood it?!" and such

total muscle lockdown and freeze

[heady ridge]

gotta get use to it also these days you cant technicly flood a engine with fuel since once you go to the start postion the needed stuff is all done

i could flood the laser but thats cause its got a cable still was a year before computers where in

[granite tendon]

I'll put it this way - last time I was in something with 4 wheel, a petrol engine and foot-actuated accelerator - it was a go-kart I managed to plough it nose into a tyre wall at a go-kart track after the accelerator got stuck 'down' even when my foot was clearly back... thanks to the shoes I was wearing at the time. that was like 15 years ago...

[heady ridge]

mm tho remeber cars cant move unless

in gear with the hand brake relesed

[vital glen]

no

[heady ridge]

if on a flat surface with the gearbox in park with a auto or netrual in a manual they cant

i can go put my laser in gear and leave the hand brake on and it wont move

even with it at max rpm it wont move a inch

[vital glen]

have a bad hand brake

duh

[heady ridge]

thats true but you can tell when its bad aswell

[granite tendon]

the biggest problem I'd have with getting an i3 REx brand-new? the cost of getting it fully kitted out and the damn thing STILL won't let me select the cruise-control optional extra on the website! ;_;

[heady ridge]

lol cruse control is a gimick to me

[granite tendon]

like... why even have it there but not able to be selected?!

[heady ridge]

tho thats also cause i own a non computer car

[granite tendon]

CC in the X-Trail keeps us pretty much bang-on 3K RPM and 105-110km/h in 5th for optimal fuel efficiency

[heady ridge]

when i was having the rocker gover gasket replaced the most modern things is the power steering and aircon

[granite tendon]

then again, this is Rural NSW, where 105-110 in a 100 zone is usual and the cops don't bother you unless you're doing like 130 WITHOUT having to overtake another

[heady ridge]

lol come to qld then

the town cops learned very fast that my brother didnt race

[granite tendon]

I wouldn't stand the heat. I already get 40-45°C days in summer and -5 through -10°C nights in winter in my part of the Riverina

[heady ridge]

lol

come on where i am didnt peak 40 during the heatwave

[granite tendon]

though when we do ping the 40-45 range it's the 2-3 days preceeding a storm moving in from SA

gods, Dec 2016-Feb 2017 was a nightmare with WEEKLY thunderstorms here. you could set you calendar to them!

[heady ridge]

be glad your country nsw you could drive a small car unrego'ed easy

even if you need a bullcrap licence to do a great passtime

come take your storms back qld dont want them

[granite tendon]

but yeah, back to cars - can't afford one right now and I'd be wanting one where I can "set and forget" the speed at something like 90km/h for the long drag into Wagga or Albury whilst on my L's & P1

[heady ridge]

i would say a laser but you need to be on the pedal the whole time

[granite tendon]

and if I got an Elec car, it'd need to reliably do around 260-300km on a single charge

115-120km in to Wagga/Albury, 115-120km back out. plus around-town driving

[heady ridge]

yea elec aint ready for aus conditions yet

just get a 4wd diesel with a long range tank can get nearly 2000km out of one

[granite tendon]

at least with the i3 REx, I can get a bit of extra distance out of a part-charge if using the diesel engine in the RangeExtend version

eh, we already get around 500km/tank out of the X-Trail

usually 91/E10 Unleaded but still

actually. I don't think we've EVER sprung for 95 or even 98. only 91 or E10 when possible

[heady ridge]

yea tho your gonna want cheap and easy to fix even with the army base at wagga

[vital glen]

2000k?

[granite tendon]

currently though, got some... peculiar restrictions on where/when can drive as it's just me and my old man and the restrictions apply to him even if he'd be a passenger when I'm driving... -.-;

[vital glen]

like 2000000

[heady ridge]

best things in a car for learners

cheap
easy to fix
wont cry when you crash it

i ment 2000

[granite tendon]

like, got around $8.5 grand stored in the bank that's being build up over time in order to build a kit 'house' on the block to move into and sort our crap out...

2000 km

[heady ridge]

if i could get 20000000 out of a tank of fuel i would be doing trips of aus once a week

[granite tendon]

lol

2000 km on a tank, gets you part way through like SA from Syd to Perth iirc

[heady ridge]

its a fair distance i know my brother in his work ute gets a fair amount

[vital glen]

if my car can get 2000k km hot damn

never filling up

[granite tendon]

honestly, gimme a diesel-elec that'll get like 320km on a charge and a cruise of 120km/h for at least 2 hours, before needing the diesel engine and I'll be somewhat happy

[heady ridge]

being in wagga you want cheap and reliable not overly complex stuff

[granite tendon]

115km outta Wagga, and around 120 outta Albury

[heady ridge]

yea cheap and reliable

cause out there 0 mechanics will know wtf to do

[granite tendon]

bah, gimme at least A creature comfort like cruise control so I can set-and-forget my speed for most of the trip and have less a risk of pinging a-holes (there are a rare few out here) for slipping over the 90 on my L's & P1's. :P

[heady ridge]

thats right nsw is backwards in fishing and speed

[granite tendon]

90 on L's for 6+ months, 90 on P1 for 1 year, 100 on P2 for 2 years. used to be 80 on L's

[heady ridge]

i can do the posted limits :P

[granite tendon]

I don't trust my foot to not go "fuck you!" and plant it, since I kinda have to 'stim' occasionally and jiggle my legs

[heady ridge]

if your that set and know a decent auto sparky they can fit a after market cruise control

[granite tendon]

like I said - biggest problem is the upfront $$$ to get me personally on the road and leave the manual brute of the X-Trail to dad

[vital glen]

lol

[vital glen]

@civic spoke I am deciding to cap the hp at 800

I like having my car to drive

[vital glen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzGT0AUyIkQ

[heady ridge]

he is a bloody idiot honstly cant stand him and the stupid vid he did about water and shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yehz2gUnNe0

this one

normal cars with low airbox intakes yes you will hydrolock them 4wd's and ones that have a rased intake or if you really must get through water a tarp over the front then sure

[vital glen]

It is general rule of thumb

to not drive through water

why the fuck would you

[heady ridge]

cause some of the best spots invole going through water

[vital glen]

unless you have a fucking snorkle

don't

[heady ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYK-4hs6UcI

or use a car bra and if you dont have that a tarp

[vital glen]

don't dirve your fucking oddesey in 3ft water @heady ridge

[heady ridge]

if your being stupid and driving in water you wouldnt cross by walking well thats your fault then

im so gonna miss my laser and its bullet proof engine

[red flare]

Ya boi has a Volvo XC90 RDesign D5 2015 Black

[coral linden]

Water in seals, bearings, or not knowing what you're driving on or in to

Road may be missing.

[vital glen]

@red flare how much did you pick that up for?

You bought a 5cylinder diesel family suv

[fathom socket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwKkM8zCQvs This is my favourite car video ever

next to the f40 alpine drift video

No car will ever be as good looking to me as the miura

[heady ridge]

so airbag recal in aus and tesla made the list https://au.news.yahoo.com/sunrise/a/39343858/government-orders-unprecedented-4-million-car-recall-to-fix-explo/

[fathom socket]

fucking XD

not my problem

i take my airbags out

if im going to die

i want it to be quick

[heady ridge]

i hope the cops bust you and defect your car then

[fathom socket]

nah

cant defect a car for that

plus they would need to inspect them

[heady ridge]

your disabling a saftey device

[fathom socket]

so

[heady ridge]

so you can also be charged for murder of a passanger

[fathom socket]

i dont need that safety device if i have others in place

i've got 6 point harnesses

and a roll cage

im fairly certain i dont need airbags

[heady ridge]

that will do shit all if your hit by a truck and your car crumples

[fathom socket]

yeah airbags will do fuck all in that scenario aswell

and chances are

im not going to be hit by a truck

and besides

i would prefer cuts to burns

so.....

and besides its not my road car

its my track car

[lime copper]

@heady ridge Tesla doesn't appear to manufacture their own airbags. Things like that happen.

[fathom socket]

when im not at my team events

[lime copper]

Like exploding batteries in phones.

[heady ridge]

@lime copper i know that tesla didnt make their own airbags hence why they are on the australian goverments compulsary recall list

[fathom socket]

just to specify jamie my road car has airbags

my track car does not

my teams track

car does not

because they add weight that doesnt need to be there provided other mechanisms are in places

*place

like harnesses

and helmets

[heady ridge]

still

Should I disconnect my airbags while I’m waiting for a repair?

No. Disconnecting the airbag is not recommended by road safety authorities. If you are involved in a car accident, it is far more likely that your Takata airbag will perform properly and protect you than it will misdeploy and cause harm.

In addition, if the airbags are disconnected then the vehicle will be considered unroadworthy and cannot be registered or insured.

https://www.productsafety.gov.au/recalls/compulsory-takata-airbag-recall/faq-for-takata-airbag-recalls

[fathom socket]

hence why my road car has active airbags

my track car has them removed

thats the difference

and airbags are filled with explosives

hence why they burn you

the main thing is any safety mechanism can fail

its when you have several stacking up that it becomes alot safer

like ABS, so your brakes dont lock up

6 point harnesses to distribute load over your torso instead of cracking your ribs like in a regular seatbelt

rollcages to prevent injuries when rolling

helmets to prevent head damage in the even of a crash

fire suits to reduce burn risks in the even of a fire

a airbag cant do all of those things

but it does help when crashing at lower speeds

when crashing at high velocity

no airbag on the market can save you by itself

even with a standard seatbelt

you need all those things i listed to stand a chance against a crash at 100kmh+

and if you crash without those things at 200

you will need to be scraped off the road

[vital glen]

@fathom socket are you telling me everyone would be safer with a 6 point harness and a roll cage?

[fathom socket]

yeah

if they could figure out how to put one on

even though its super simple

[vital glen]

From the factory?

[fathom socket]

if they were legal from factory

[vital glen]

Why aren't they legal

[fathom socket]

then they should be in the car from factory

because they are "race" equipment

which pisses me off

[vital glen]

If there is a roll over on street vehicle, hard steel tubing running over the driver and passengers head can actually cause significant trauma to the head. There are many pictures of this actually happening. Street vehicles are designed to crumple while roll cages are meant to add rigidity to the vehicle while providing some sort of barrier.

Reinforced steel tubes do not crumple or crush, but rather create load paths from the impact directly into the chassis (part of the reason why roll cages increase chassis rigidity so well). Most after market roll cages people have on their vehicles are for chassis rigidity (which they don't even do that well) and as such, they aren't FIA certified for safety. What this means is that in the event of a collision, the components behaviour on impact can bend, break, fracture, etc... and act as another component in the vehicle that will transfer force of impact from the car to the driver.

---

As for racing harnesses, many people don't realize seat belt's actually have expiry dates (this goes for racing harnesses as well). Now, if you've had a car for 10 years, this is not to say that your seat belt will not help you. It is to say that however that safety restraints have an industry standard for manufacture, and a shelf life because of material durability and fatigue over time.

Installing a racing harness properly requires the use of a harness bar. If not installed properly, harness bars can come undone in the car rendering your seatbelt completely in effective and providing a solid object that can cause significant damage to the driver or passengers

[fathom socket]

im aware of these things

except for the fact my roll cage is designed to take 10x the weight of the vehicle

so.....

[vital glen]

I just copied and pasted first thing I saw

[fathom socket]

yeah

[vital glen]

What is the weight of the car?

[fathom socket]

950kg

reason its designed to take 10

x

isnt so it can have 10 cars stacked on top of it

its so it can handle high velocity rolls

and you will notice that rally cars are the only real cars that have proper roll cages

because they absolutely need them

[carmine summit]

If you were to have a rollcage you would be less safe in a rollover unless you were wearing a helmet

[fathom socket]

then wear a helmet

[carmine summit]

kinda unsafe for daily driving

[fathom socket]

ehhh

[carmine summit]

limits your visibility

[fathom socket]

anything limits your visibility

if its aditional

[carmine summit]

The car is already designed to survive a rollover

if it's just a daily driver then that's all you need

[fathom socket]

yeah if the highest you will go in it speed wise is 120kmh

you dont need super sofisticated gear

[wary sinew]

Is there a rated speed were having a rear spoiler becomes effective?

[fathom socket]

it depends

on alot of factors

the main point of a rear spoiler is to push the rear tires into the ground

looking at some engineering documents

its about 60mph when it starts to become effective

but the main thing with rear spoilers is they give alot of drag

which limits your top sped

*speed

but since it gives you downforce, you can corner a hell of alot harder

but you'll also notice the cars that rock spoilers from factory either hydraulic or static, have alot of body based downforce

[carmine summit]

I typed out some stuff too but it didn't send

It depends on the weight of your vehicle and the angle/size of the spoiler, also the position of the spoiler.

It also depends what you consider effective.

[oak gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=N3QR-1v5MsM

[red flare]

@vital glen it’s not 5 cylinder it’s 4 just to point out, we got that one for around £60,000

[vital glen]

@red flare those are worth a lot less

here

[red flare]

@vital glen It's the brand new ones lol

[vital glen]

brand new 2015 model

what

why

buying brand new is a waste imo @red flare

unless you have more money to blow, gl and have fun

[red flare]

Its a good car

i dont see your problem

[vital glen]

buying new is a waste of money

you get a better value used

[coral linden]

I bought new for warranty, first owner of high power car and 12k off.

[vital glen]

@coral linden what car?

[harsh oasis]

got me a car

[valid kiln]

congrats

[vital glen]

@harsh oasis what ya buy?

[harsh oasis]

didn't buy anything! I was given two Subaru Legacy wagons

One is a 2.2l 96 brighton, the other is a 91/92 wagon parts car

both run and drive but the older one is rusted beyond repair with a good moter/trans, the 96 also runs and drives but needs rear sub frame parts

[vital glen]

lol

[carmine summit]

drivetribe is a knockoff

[coral linden]

that was for the csrt4.

[vital glen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4gcg8OyFM8

[carmine summit]

The Crusher Impala is more of a muscle car in my opinion.

[vital glen]

@carmine summit a muscle car is a muscle car

Big and Mean

[harsh oasis]

so should I boost the Brighton and stance it or lift it and turn it into a battle wagon?

[dire fiber]

brighton?

[vital glen]

don't stance it @harsh oasis

lift it 5ft

[coral linden]

don't ever stance any car, just stop

[vital glen]

^^^

stancing ruins everything

[harsh oasis]

was a joke no worries

who stances subarus anyway

I wish I had the money for bags. Lowered wagons look really nice but being able to lift up would be beneficial because I live in an area with a lot of pot holes

[coral linden]

i've seen it and was sad

I want to raise my impreza but also put an engine in that isn't awful

[vital glen]

put a 350 chevy in it @coral linden

[coral linden]

i said an engine that isn't awful

[vital glen]

Are you calling a 350 chevy awful

are you an idiot?

I am deeply offended

I am calling the police

and your mom

[coral linden]

figured you would be.

[vital glen]

My dad is the owner of microsoft

I will ban your xbox live account

and revoke your windows license

@coral linden why do you call the 350 chevy shit?

[coral linden]

because compared to the newer engines it's a boat anchor

and my brother's 350 in his boat is a pain in the dick to work on

[vital glen]

Not really

it's pretty damn simple

unless you are just really incompetent

[coral linden]

yeah I hand built a 4.6 DOHC, I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing

[vital glen]

then why is a 350 a pain in the ass

it is dead simple

[coral linden]

I said boat, which isn't exactly easy to work in

[vital glen]

wadym by boat

[coral linden]

access

literally a boat

[vital glen]

it's a boat what do you expect

go be a normie and ls swap

what all the cool kids are doing

[coral linden]

if I was going to do a swap i wouldn't bother with a 350.

[vital glen]

what are you going to put in it a fucking 4U-GSE?

big block 454

[coral linden]

I'd start with an LS at least.

[vital glen]

ls7?

LSX454R?

maybe a lt4?

572?

[coral linden]

sure why not

[vital glen]

which one?

I listed 4 engine

[coral linden]

yeah

[vital glen]

oh go home you're drunk

[coral linden]

heh not worth swapping in a different engine, it's all custom work

[vital glen]

4U-GSE

[coral linden]

might as well get a trashed wrx and swap

[vital glen]

dew it no ballz

[coral linden]

you mean FA20

[vital glen]

yeah

[coral linden]

not some fake toyota designation slapped on

[vital glen]

lol

[coral linden]

it's like 20hp more

[vital glen]

really

i thought it would be worse

or the same

[coral linden]

mines 175

[vital glen]

lil' low

needs at least 75hp

1.2 L 3A92 I3

you need that engine

[coral linden]

well I had 350ish before so this was a big drop

[vital glen]

I took my friend's brz out for a joy ride
fuck that thing is slow

[coral linden]

brz is 205hp now with the FA20

[vital glen]

Oh god, one of my teacher owns a 2015 brz

and he thinks he is the shit

Yes I did try to drag race him

[coral linden]

did he win

[vital glen]

he refused

because it is "unprofessional"

though before he got the job as a teacher he was allegedly banging a senior

[coral linden]

could be perfectly legal.

[vital glen]

def not

I mean he is 25
she is 17

[coral linden]

what state

[vital glen]

md

In Maryland, persons aged between 14 and 16 may consent to sex as long as the other partner is not more than 4 years older. Maryland's age of consent law applies differently if the older partner is in a position of trust or authority over the younger partner.

[coral linden]

age of consent is 16, if he wasn't a teacher at the time

[vital glen]

though there is a 7-8 year difference

law says there can only be 4 year difference

[coral linden]

that's 14-16

[vital glen]

it's complicated

anyway I am not throwing accuations

@coral linden it's 16 years of age with a 4 year gap

after 18 it's no big deal

in the eyes of the law

[coral linden]

between 14 and 16 they may consent as long as the other partner is not more than 4 years. at 16 it's legal

is what that says

[vital glen]

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/maryland-statutory-rape-laws.htm

have fun

it get's a little funny

either way brz's are slow @coral linden

and what I would call a "teen car"

[carmine summit]

They aren't supposed to be fast

they're a spiritual successor to the AE86 Corolla

woah

I didn't know it corrected it to that

[vital glen]

what?

[carmine summit]

the BRZ

[vital glen]

they suck

like you can do anything better

in almost anything

[carmine summit]

they're really well balanced

great for drifting

[vital glen]

that's all?

[carmine summit]

and track racing

[vital glen]

yeah not really

[wary sinew]

I wish the brz had a little more hp and more torque like 180 or 190ft-lb instead of 15X

[hardy osprey]

Hehehehe just sold a turbocharger for a heck of a profit

Bought it for 50$ cad, sold it for 430$ (technically 450 but paypal takes a cut)

[civic spoke]

Nice.

[fallow ridge]

the brz is a fantastic daily

and its fun

fantastic car on track too with good tires

definitely a car that relies on driver skill tho

[vital glen]

@fallow ridge the prius is the pen-ultimate daily driver

[granite tendon]

no dash in penultimate. :P

[coral linden]

brz needs 100hp more and i'd consider it

supercharger kit will add almost 100lbs to the front it seems so that's the last place you want it.

[dire fiber]

rear mounted turbo?

[coral linden]

*not to mention the $5000+ pricetag on top of the car

[fallow ridge]

Eh

Its plenty fast for what it is

If you wanted to go fast in a straight line at that price you might as well buy a mustang

[coral linden]

You're right, the Mustang is a much better purchase

[distant forge]

my car keeps killing itself ugh

a couple weeks ago the battery drained because apparently its headlights don't automatically shut off?

and today i discovered that it screamed itself to death

i like how in its 17 years of service with my dad they never had any problems but as soon as i get the car

misfiring cylinders, the starter battery dies twice with the second time being bad enough to factory reset the car

[vital glen]

@fallow ridge wrong, a Prius

@distant forge gg

What are you driving?

Or what did you drive e

[fallow ridge]

I drive a Lexus gsf and a Chevy volt

My SO drives an M2 and a f150

[vital glen]

A Prius, but better looking and a better invest

[distant forge]

@vital glen 2001 prius

[vital glen]

Wait, fr

[distant forge]

yes

[fallow ridge]

It's cuz I don't like driving a low car in the city lmao

[vital glen]

Loo

I am calling the police @distant forge

[distant forge]

y

[vital glen]

Priuses should be banned

[fallow ridge]

What do you drive @vital glen

[vital glen]

2008 s550 and a '85 Monte Carlo SS

[distant forge]

why should they be banned lol

[vital glen]

It's a Prius, enough said

[distant forge]

not really?

[fallow ridge]

Lol I almost bought the new s550 but I'm thinking of buying the e63 amg

Replace my old volt

[vital glen]

Don't buy either unless you like draining your wallet

[distant forge]

look at this sweet dorky little car

[vital glen]

It makes me want to throw up

[fallow ridge]

Lol draining my wallet

[distant forge]

with its tiny little wheels and stubby face

[vital glen]

And smash it with a hammer

[distant forge]

like a corgi

[vital glen]

Priuses are not cars, but a waste of metal and platic

[fallow ridge]

It's a good car

I like it @distant forge

[distant forge]

ty

it's been a very good car for 17 years but the college life doesn't suit it

it doesn't take well to being unused for weeks on end

[vital glen]

No, Priuses should be banned. @hardy osprey

[fallow ridge]

Yeesh I had a bike in college

Didn't have a car

[distant forge]

i inherited this from my dad

[vital glen]

Your dad got suckered

[distant forge]

he bought a brand new avalon last summer

[vital glen]

Buying a Prius

[distant forge]

and gave me his prius

[fallow ridge]

The Avalon is fantastic

But it's Lexus money

[distant forge]

idk what beef you've got with priuses dude but it's been an excellent, reliable car that still nets me over 40mpg

might not be the prettiest car but it's excellent for college

[fallow ridge]

He drives an old s550 he's just bitter you don't have to pay for maintenance

[distant forge]

lol true

[vital glen]

Priuses are ugly

Af

They are not cars

[fallow ridge]

Wtf the old one is actually cute looking

[vital glen]

They need to be driven off the road

Any other hybrid is better

[fallow ridge]

That's not true

[vital glen]

The Prius is a Prius

[fallow ridge]

It's a great car

Good on gas

[distant forge]

it is

[fallow ridge]

Good road noise

[vital glen]

Not really

[fallow ridge]

Decent interior

[vital glen]

Gas, I will give it that

[distant forge]

when the combustion engine shuts off and the car is totally silent 👌🏻

[vital glen]

Decent interior, not really

[fallow ridge]

👌 👌

[vital glen]

I like hearing my engine roar

[fallow ridge]

Lmao decent interior compared to other hybrids in the market

[distant forge]

im not an obnoxious person

i dont like loud cars

[fallow ridge]

The volt interior is trash compared to the Prius

[distant forge]

cars that you can hear all the way across the 3mi long campus 👎🏻 👎🏻 👎🏻 👎🏻

[vital glen]

Are the best

[fallow ridge]

Thats why you have two cars

[vital glen]

Unless they are fart cans

[fallow ridge]

One quiet daily and one monster sports car

[vital glen]

I daily both

[fallow ridge]

Gas must be cheap where u live

[vital glen]

It is

[distant forge]

it's like $2.10 here

cheaper w my kroger card lol

[vital glen]

Isn't Kroger

[fallow ridge]

It's like ~4 for 91

[distant forge]

but my car is great, on the 3.5hr drive from home to campus i don't have to fill up my tank at all

and it's still like 1/4 full by the time i get home

[vital glen]

I pay 3.20 for 98

[fallow ridge]

Don't have 98 in Cali

[vital glen]

It's California, amazing car community shit state

[fallow ridge]

But we got sun year round 👏

Yea

I see a ton of race cars in San Diego

It's a great state lmao

[vital glen]

No, no it's not

[fallow ridge]

Why not

[vital glen]

A) Your legislation
B) Your regulations

[fallow ridge]

It's not that bad

And a lot of people don't care

You just live life because most of the time it doesn't affect you

[vital glen]

a lot
Half your state wants to leave

I can get away with so much shit here with my Monte Carlo

[fallow ridge]

It's just expensive to live in the popular parts of cali

[distant forge]

LA could use more hybrids, their smog is pretty bad 😛

[fallow ridge]

LA got hella hybrids

Priuses everywhere

[vital glen]

Needs to be nuked

[fallow ridge]

Bro you're being really toxic @vital glen

You need to chill

[vital glen]

I am only toxic towards Priuses

[fallow ridge]

When you live in LA you're commute sucks so you want a nice car that doesn't drain your wallet

[distant forge]

esp with how rare gas stations are there

and how pricey gas can be 😦

gotta get that good good fuel efficiency

[fallow ridge]

Yea

The volt just gets me to the office

The GSF is alright on gas

[distant forge]

i wouldn't want to live in san fran or LA, but they're nice to visit

ultimately im a small town person

places like memphis are big enough for me

[fallow ridge]

I 100% agree

[distant forge]

nice to count all the teslas i see in the big cities lol

[fallow ridge]

I live outside of the big cities

[vital glen]

I have the ultimate solution: Hyundai Ioniq hybrid

[distant forge]

and see all the nice sports car showrooms

i hear the ioniq is great

[vital glen]

Better looking, gets better mpg

[distant forge]

ive got a friend who drives one

[vital glen]

It's better in everyway

[fallow ridge]

I don't see those too often

They don't have the same amount of prestige as the Prius

Are u ok @upper lichen

[vital glen]

Litterally better in everyway

[fallow ridge]

Except for lease price

[vital glen]

By how much?

[fallow ridge]

You can lease a Prius around here from 120-170 depending on credit

Maybe cheaper if you sign on one of the good sales

[vital glen]

And still pay it back at the end

[distant forge]

i wouldn't be able to lease a car lol

[vital glen]

No credit?

[fallow ridge]

You don't pay it back at the end of a lease

Unless you want to buy it out

[distant forge]

ive put like 10k miles on my car since i got it like 8mo ago

[vital glen]

1dollar buy out baby

[fallow ridge]

That's a respectable amount of miles

[distant forge]

id kill the mileage limit on a lease

[vital glen]

That too

[fallow ridge]

Probably would

[vital glen]

I would

[distant forge]

and i dont have credit yet but i really need to get a credit card

[vital glen]

I put like 10k miles in like 5months

[distant forge]

maybe ill get one of those starbucks credit cards LOL

[fallow ridge]

Lol

No

Just go with a local credit union

[distant forge]

nah i've got an online bank that i use

[vital glen]

No, go to the local pawnshop

[fallow ridge]

Ah ye

Ally does my savings

[distant forge]

my dad could probably setme up with a credit card from them

[fallow ridge]

It's not a bad idea to get a credit card

You just need to be responsible

[distant forge]

oh yeah im pretty responsible, i keep a very close eye on all of my spending

[fallow ridge]

I basically pay everything with credit cards

[vital glen]

Extremely responsible*

[fallow ridge]

1.5% cash back