#Car Related Games (Forza Series, Assetto Corsa, Beamng etc.)
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It's amazing how badly they fell off since FM4
That was an actually fun game, but they've just gotten worse and worse with each subsequent release
Literally

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Very worth
The historic formula and the Brazillian stock cars are fantastic
Pretty sure there is a free demo?
it is amazing
I tried it and refunded it not even ten min later
Really? Huh, AMS2 is probably one of my favourite sims to just fire up and do a quick race in
What was the problem?
Yeah don't know what that person is on, one of the better AI in this genre
what was so bad about it?
Lack of blur and other things
and you refunded it because of THAT?
what do you expect to get for less than 10 quid
I just didn't like the game simply as that
Yeah uhhh I might have bought it again
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Update I refunded it again
let bro enjoy his forza 
Forza sucks
But it has motion blur? that's what you wanted? 
Cuz i'm wondering why did u even decide to buy it again, to then refund it again? 😂
Man's gonna get his steam account banned from getting refunds at this rate
I just don't like the game and the car handling
I just thought i won't be playing it alot now that I have also FS25
The car handling is a bit "floaty" according to some folks, though they have somewhat got it nailed down a bit more in the more recent updates, especially with the IMSA content
I prefer more the handling of WRC and dirt rally and NFS since i'm used to it
Also speaking of NFS
So, arcade-ish
got it
then yeah, AMS2 is nothing for you

is .36 beamng broken for anyone else? cars have black interiors, missing glass textures, missing hoods and broken physics
or am i just going to have to update mods by hand
nope
this game sucks so fucking bad, i cant even get the drag tree to show up on the west coast map anymore, its just straight up not there
verify game files
its so hard to get lighting that looks good
and it doesnt help that, again, one of the newer updates broke everything, so old maps look horrible and updated maps look insane, theres no middle ground
Nooooo la policia nooooooooooo
Gotta say NFS with cops are better than those without
Although Unbound did a terrible job
I liked Underground 2 the best, I think it depends on which one you grew up with
Rivals was my favorite
Hot pursuit 🔥
Same
i used to burn hot pursuit 3 when i was a kid
but last year or so my friends and i all got unbound for like pennies and that was pretty fun to burn through for a month or so
good arcade racer, had feelings of the old burnout games which was nice
I found the updates fun to play for a few weeks but that was it
any le mans ultimate players here
Occasionally! How come?
Just say you hate cars
I don't
Forza 5 is cheeks tho
Exactly
fair
street missile tbh
Nah Forza just sucks the devs have dropped the ball every single game since FH3
Don’t even get me started on how terrible turn 10 does with the motorsport franchise
Fm 23 still does not have a lot of the tracks that 7 did
6 is gonna be worse
been trying to learn the bolide group 5 
LMU? 
Is that game any good?
Yes*
The AI is pretty decent, one of the few games I've tried with working multiclass AI that doesn't just sit behind a slower car.
Graphics-wise, it's definitely serviceable. Sounds are great, imo.
Force feedback is interesting - you feel a lot of "detail" from flat spots, tyre deformation, but actual weight transfer less so... I like it enough, though.
I would say that... For a 1.0 release, it is missing a fair bit. No singleplayer career/championship mode, despite this being the official WEC game. No safety cars, no code 60s.
Fair summary
I see
yeah it's really good
haven't played much at all but was definitely my go to
also hadn't realised they were gonna remove the season pass when the game launched lmao?
like the only bundle is £42.45 when the season pass was £31.99 💀
luckily managed to grab it just now off of CDkeys for £26.99 wahooo
any of you pro gamers play wreckfest/wreckfest 2?
doom scrolling the steam racing sale
want something more casual
Haven‘t fully tested it
Not tried it personally, but heard its a blast with friends
just testing a bx with a 6.5 v8 stuck in the front
just wondered if anyone else did lol
these are way more fun than they have any right to be
been taking a break from tsc
midcar
elaborate
Watching cars go around an oval for 5 hours is boring
Its obviously a lot easier than road racing, but its also quite hard to master especially if tyre wear is modelled
Easy to do hard to excel at
Especially on short ovals
But you dont have to remember which way it goes 😆
depends how many yellow flags are thrown, it can be interesting when it's a cleaner race; there's a lot more strategy than you might expect
that aston looks incredible
it sounds it too
They are weirdly fun, the FWD feedback is so good
Yep
Glorious 288
one of the very few truly beautiful ferraris
unlike the 400
which is the most vile looking thing ever

Beautiful cars
yeeeeeeeeeeeee
this might actually encourage me to buy the next one
FH5 being set in Mexico was a big L
Actually being curious what‘s everyones obsession with japan being a location?
Interesting mix of massive high-tech looking cities, mountainous touge passes and lots of coastal areas.
Mexico was just kinda... bland
I loved FH4, but that's because I semi-regularly go to the Lake District and Scotland in real life and it reminds me of being up there
jdm exclusive vehicles probably
it probably doesnt help that the chances of another horizon releasing after 6 are quite slim
Wouldn‘t Car X better for it tho
Oh 100% Mexico was a shitty choice, would personally like something like Côte d‘azur (perhaps as a map extension) or sum
That would be awesome too
So far we've had Colorado, Nice/Italy, Australia, Scotland/Cumbria and Mexico right?
idk ive hated every horizon except 2 and 4 so
cant remember the last time i played any forza games
if you want realism get assetto
if you want jdm get carx
or if you want something to chill on get a ps5 and play GT7 
FH3 was nice
Yeah
Tldr: Horizon 6 allegedly is being announced this year at the Tokyo Game Show, where the game will also take place
jesus surely not
Holy shit you scrolled far
another article
reposted by Tom Henderson

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
about damn time
Japan is cool I guess, as long as it's not just Tokyo
i'm hoping now it's only gen 9 stuff that they can go a lil crazy with the map
i would like a properly sized city with a good expressway tho
never really felt like we've ever had one in horizon, edinburgh was good but you're already out of it in less than 3 minutes
man idk, i can't picture offroad stuff in my head like the baja and open spaces in japan
rally japan used to be on dirt though so ik they got some of those fire offroad roads
yapyapyapyapyapyapyap
I can't imagine much off-road stuff either really, I just imagine racing through Shibuya
URD EGT pack just got updated for free
hellfire
AMS2's 1999 Stock Car Brasil series is great fun, the cars are so intuitive to drive
A fun nightmare on the limit. double nightmare in the rain
Been a while, lost it om the last lap
Yeah, always sucks when you have a good race and just lose focus before the end
hot
Front brakes are literally on fire lol
hell yeah
If you haven't noticed there aren't any mods in here
But if you want i can ask
Why would you get warned? There is a real GT3 car with that sponsor
If it's realistic then i would say there aren't any reason to get warned
it is
wait, that one is real too? i was talking about the Audi R8 racing in GTWC Australia... just how many OF cars are there?!
They might be the same driver
Doesn't appear to be - the Australian one is an OF content creator, the McLaren is two guys
okay i've finally managed to set a time in this thing
what a blast
hot
This spin is probably at the top for the funniest super wheelspins I had xD

tokyo confirmed
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fully article is a good read too
Nice
Lol
evo update dropped today too wooo
https://fixupx.com/AC_assettocorsa/status/1971218488661508431
Assetto Corsa EVO 0.3 OUT NOW!
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dallara stradale, super trofeo evo2, M4 GT3, some caterham, 190E, spa and redbull ring too
and quite a bit more in the update/patches department too
This is cool. But really I don't see myself returning to a 6th iteration of Forza Horizon. I was just dead disappointed with FH5 and Playground Games just don't seem to care anymore.
They will have to impress me really well if I'm going to part out with however much they're going to charge for this
Just spent several very enjoyable hours with the new AC Evo update 👍 Spa and Red bull ring in the cayman and the new bimmer. Decent job, very decent. Negatives are there doesnt seem to be any track evolution over time, grass and ggravel way too forgiving and I couldnt see anything being thrown up by the tyres when clipping gravel on exit
Greetings everyone! Just a month after the release of V1.6.7 and two months after v1.6.6 release to the day, we are again on the verge of another exciting AMS2 update as V1.6.8 is due to be rolling out very soon! It is in fact not just one, but two major updates to be delivered in the coming weeks, along with three DLC packages which will extend...
R8 LMP ❤️
C 5 FUCKING R
Yessssss
I hope the AI improvements work well too
They do form packs right now and refuse to pass one another
oh shit thats fire
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Not heard of this before, might be arcade since its also consoles
Hope it comes closer to Project cars 2, was a good game
Fond memories of PC2, used to mess around with the karts a lot
also saw an iRacing arcade game on the next fest? 
It's going to be somewhere between PCars2 and GTR2, I think - it has devs from both
I have heard rumours from some of the beta testers that the driving physics aren't great, hoping they're just cloutchasing
AMS2 might be up your street then, it has karts in
AMS2 is great
Will try project motor racing keeping an eye on playtime so I can refund if its arcade
damn that’s like two days after NASCAR 25 comes to steam as well
busy winter for racing lfg 
aaaa i hope it’s sick, especially after everything that happened with EA WRC
sick of having to go for RBR icl
Yeah I am lowkey excited for this
Assetto Corsa Evo has burned me but this is a different studio
I won't preorder
But i will pay full price if the reviews are good
Hopefully the physics is like Dirt Rally 2.0
Looking forward to nascar 25, but it might be arcade also
The previews I've seen suggest it's going to be closer to modded Richard Burns Rally, so more hardcore than Dirt Rally 2.0
hmm UE5 rally sim
UE5 for the graphics, but same old kunos physics engine for the rest
could be huge
although im always torn between wanting a hardcore sim, but also never having the time to set up my rig
so wanting something that plays nice on controller
some more screens on the steam page
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3917090/Assetto_Corsa_Rally/
Assetto Corsa Rally delivers an uncompromising rally simulation that captures the raw intensity and precision of the sport. Developed by Supernova in technical partnership with Kunos Simulazioni, AC Rally was developed on the base of Assetto Corsa’s acclaimed physics engine, specifically refined for the needs of this motorsports discipline, and…
Nov 13, 2025
i mean visually, it looks ridiculous
laser scanned rally stages is properly huge too
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gameplay looks impressive ngl
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🚨 Kunos Simulazioni teases more upcoming cars and tracks coming to Assetto Corsa EVO after the next update, v0.4. Some of the new cars and tracks include:
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Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
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BMW M2 G82 (with M Performance parts)
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Ferrari Purosangue
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Ferrari SP1
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McMurtry Spéirling
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Porsche 911 GT3 RS 992
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Monza
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Sebring
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Watkins Glen
Assetto Corsa Evo
Early Access 0.4 & Free Roam Preview
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6RVsuHhAp8
https://assettocorsa.gg/assetto-corsa-evo/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3058630/
#assettocorsa #assettocorsaevo #wearesimracing
Here is a whole video about it
And more
does look spicy
hope the free roam is all its cracked up to be
also some direct capture of ACR
https://youtu.be/rCH8EwWfK_g
my god the SF25 looks good as fuck
they even got the special liveries
also i did rebuy AC Evo since i did realise that free roam is now closer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY0X0K6_UqU&t=348s
I'm interested in PMR but this video does highlight some bad stuff like bad AI and subpar graphics
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Project Motor Racing is nearly here, releasing in November - here we test the AI ...
I know graphics aren't everything but it looks kinda outdated
They're using the Giants game engine for it
so it's the farming sim engine? lmao
Yup
well i'm definitely interested in the career side of the game
looking at their website they don't have a lot of tracks announced at the moment, there's only one South American circuit (which i'm gonna guess is Interlagos)
No Asian tracks either
I'm interested because it's covering some really niche eras of motorsport like late 80s IMSA GTO, but no chance will I preorder
If the reviews are good, then I'll consider it
Spykerrrrrrrr
I wish they'd survived into the WEC era
Their GT2 car was cool
real
Mainly hotlaps, the AI in AC is... not so good. Good enough for single class stuff sometimes, but definitely not multiclass.
I just really like the way AC drives, the force feedback feels great.
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all the tracks confirmed for launch
No Road Atlanta or Laguna Seca is a bit sad, but otherwise a decent list so far
Yeah and no Suzuka or Le Mans
why tf donnington and silverstone called derby and northampton 😭
Licensing
hang on yeah, how do you do hypercars/lmps but no le mans
i bet it's being saved for post-release content
they also cheated because they say there's 10 European tracks but 3 of them are just different variations of the Nürburgring
I know its the most basic bitch UK track but hopefully Brands Hatch one day... also is this game gonna be playable on controller?
I'm getting a wheel for this game tho 
traxion.gg demoed the game on controller iirc, it seemed to play fine
and yeah, brands hatch is great
my favourite circuit to visit, you get a nice walk through the woods combined with a motor race
I always struggled with Brands Hatch on GT7
it says this game has mods on console but like what kind of mods?
cars and tracks or just like liveries?
i assume we'll find out after release
it looks like it's anything that doesn't involve heavy scripting, so i'd assume basic cars are possible
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Automobilista 2 V1.6.8.5 is now live! The new update brings 2005 Endurance racing back to life with two new DLCs along with a substantial game update.
As is tradition for AMS2, the new DLC content will have a free trial period over the weekend for all users to check out and enjoy it.
Decently priced aswell, €10
GT1 ❤️
Road Atlanta - the kerbs are a bit less aggressive than the modern version, and it comes with a short layout that has the old pitlane.
Le Mans - Tertre Rouge and the Dunlop Chicane are the main differences, and the Porsche curves have a lot less runoff than the modern one.
Spa - Bus-stop chicane, armco barriers are closer, you get both F1 and Endurance pits.
I think the packs are both pretty good to be honest! The only car I've not enjoyed driving is the Porsche 996, I can't find a good brake balance for it; it's either departing the track backwards or locking up the fronts every corner
AMS2 always tempts me so much man
i own it but i've never committed to properly trying it
GT1/GT2 my beloved
Shame
how does the uhhh
free weekend thing work?
might actually give it a proper shot this time
IIRC, you can use all the DLC during it as if you owned it
Exactly that
I am loving the 996 round 2005 spa. Murdering the AI round eau rouge then ending up facing the wrong way at rivage is putting a grin on my face
R8 lmp drives lovely aswell
The Courage also
bph racing with @fickle breach and @knotty hedge 
BPH build huge crash, all of them got unalived, no more Mods 
the backmarkers tried their best to kill me during this race
The AI does not respect blue flags
Back on the rocks 🗣️
bit of mini challenge to wrap up the evening
Oh yes, mini owner approved.
@fickle breach I think we fucked up a bit
nahhh
I forgot I already posted that one 💀
Guess i should convert a Loc 
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anyone forgot about this game? CCD in general? 
Paid DLC including 24hr races
gt7 never had 24hour races? 
Nope
Paid dlc 🙁
doing some physics testing
based nr2003 posting
i gotta play that again, was looking forward to NASCAR 25 but
apparently super simcade so 
oh well, AC Rally today wahho wahhoo yipppeee
oh thankies for saying that, almost forgot about the game lmao
mann i hope it slaps
the rally community is so owed a proper modern rally sim
makes me nervous it being on UE but aahhh
i think xsara for me
but i'm dying to try that 037
love that car
and (as much as i love those games) RWD has never delivered in the codemaster rally sims
reckon the stratos would be fun as hell too
I don't want to change my shifter back to H-pattern, it takes 5 minutes and those minutes could be spent driving 😅
im still on the rubber bands on the logitech shifter 😭
TH8A for me. I keep eyeing up the Simagic DS-8X though.
i've always kinda eyed up fancier stuff
but i just don't feel like i use it enough to justify
You tested it yet?
oh hell yeah
I did hear that. Going to try it out at some point though. Fully expecting to refund it an hour later
yeah gave it a little go
first impressions
it feels really good, it looks really good, the stages are sooo nice and the diversity in the course and how different and rough it feels
idk what the call it, but like the resolution of the road? how small the differences in surface texture and shape can be in such a small area?
there's a lot of freedom too, you can just drive any car on any track at any time in any weather (currently only fog/dry/rain/storm) but you can set custom weather patterns or different day night cycle speeds, and you can just free drive on the stages
yeah it's just really great honestly, i'm super impressed so far
haven't had proper time to try with a wheel set up yet sadly but from what i did try it felt immaculate
Is the game similar to Dirt rally 2 physics or EA WRC?
yeah was gonna say, it's definitely more RBR than DR/WRC
I did try the xsara in wales on a ps5 controller and it was actually pretty playable
was hard though
Haven't tried RBR so no idea how that is
it's like malakhit said really, the codemasters stuff is very grippy compared to something like RBR
so rbr can feel very floaty and like you have zero control at first
but it's just super realistic, and AC rally is like that too
I would have tried it if the graphics didn't look like a North Korean era game
it is from 2004 tbf 
i get you though, if graphics are important for you then RBR is definitely a no go
i was big into rbr when i was a bit younger, but i just cba to go through all the hassle and customisation just to play a decent version of it
and then it's like wheel or absolutely nothing, where-as with ACR i definitely feel like i could just have a lil sesh on controller if i was bored
To be fair I don't mind graphics that much but RBR is more a bit on the uglier side but like TSC and FSX graphics those kinds are fine
hell yeah
thanks
Just had my first go in it, I'm not sure how I feel about it
The force feedback feels really numb
I don't feel like there's any real indication of what the back of the car is doing
Could be a design choice tbf
It does look really fun and I'm not usually a rally fan
i think they were having issues with ffb in general
so could be that, ik they looking into it
Yeah, seems that way
Will give it a try, can always refund
Makes a great screenie, thats for sure
RBR? Yeah, I'm surprised how well it holds up despite the age
Lets see how these are, may have to refund, but lets see
Nascar 25 is fun, v arcade and I hate that I cant use kb and mouse for menus, bit meh
Not loving ACR, but I am def a circuit racer rather than rally, only 20 mins played. At the moment I feel I might refund both and renew my iracing sub
yee that's fair, its a bit hardcore too
Nascar 25 refunded after 20 minutes 😆 way too arcade. Not really loving ACR, but will give it a bit longer. I feel ACR is good, just possibly not for me
I'm just waiting for Project Motor Racing to come out
Fingers crossed for that 🤞 Gotta love steam refund policy, its great
When is it coming?
25th November
Just remember don't complain due to the graphics
I mean it's the farming engine
So don't expect the best graphics
But of course i expect people to know that
this is very shocking news to me
F1 26 is cancelled and turned into an F1 25 expansion pass
F1 27 will actually be EAs next F1 release
oh
so its still codemasters at the helm
will probably launch like football manager 26
granted its needed a change for a while
Use the BF6 engine for great destruction on the tracks 
Although i'm waiting until the next WRC game
could be that tbh
i always thought it was really weird that EA WRC was on UE
icr what they said at the time but it was basically supposed to be better than EGO
(it wasn't)
i feel like shareholders will be pushing for a ultimate team esque experience in the new game
something they can add to rinse ppls wallet

"pre order now to play as Senna's corpse"
Blame the arabs ||/s||
hope they still add the Madrid track at least
W
Would be fire if they would do that, but i doubt it
@sage kiln worth a read if you wanna try some AC rally again
https://www.overtake.gg/threads/ac-rally-ffb-temp-fix.290949/
A Rally sim shouldn't feel like you're driving a 1967 Cadillac Convertible DeVille. So I snooped around and did some tinkering.
First, set all FFB settings to maximum in the Game Options. You can change them later if you wish. But for now, just do it.
Then, navigate to...
some people sharing settings in the comments too
been hearing a lot of complaints about the AI on PMR, kinda putting me off buying it tbh
is anyone planning on buying it tomorrow?
I was, but after seeing the previews from people who have their hands on it? I wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot barge pole
the way the lead dev interacts with people on twitter is also offputting
he's so defensive all the time
ahh I don't use Twitter
i’ve not really seen anything good about it
think some people were saying the older cars are alright but
other than that 
the AI does look dogshit
but the main draw for me is the career mode
I'm getting a wheel for crimbo so need some racing games for it
idk how it is on console but Assetto Corsa Competizione is really good for GT racing, usually goes super cheap in sales
used to be pretty competitive on that with a G27
its pretty specialised for GT3 though, there's GT4/GT2 with DLCs but definitely not the main focus
ah yeah that game is actually included with my PS Plus membership lol
I should try it
oh nice! yeah definitely give it a go, i love it honestly
always have a good time, esp online in the higher SA lobbies
is it good for single player? does it have a career mode or anything?
Yep, has a career mode, and the AI is decent enough
nice I'll give it a go
the game kicked my arse on a gamepad but when I get my wheel I think it'll be fun
My thoughts on Project Motor Racing. I'm playing the PS5 version.
There is due to be a day 1 patch with fixes to some of the issues mentioned in the video.
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OK yeah i'm waiting for a sale or a fix for this game
"It's unplayable on controller"
This is fantastic. Tried out the settings and the game feels totally different now. Thanks for sharing!
ay glad it's helped!
Pretty Mediocre Rubbish
Gamers
Squad
Folks
Toplessgun admitted to using AI generation for some stuff in My Winter Car
The transparency is to be appreciated, but still
Welp looks like I am not buying MWC
I do not care, i'm 100% buying it. It's a rather silly reason not to buy it considering the AI usage probably counts towards maybe less than 10% of the total game development
I will let him off the hook with this one.
I was willing to let him off the hook with the few AI generated paintings in MSC, cuz like, those are just unimportant house décor barely anyone notices, and I assumed they'd be replaced eventually. They weren't, so it's safe to say these won't be either.
But the music, that's part of MSC's identity. Hearing Teimo singing Marjatta, or dying and listening to Routainen maa again, not only are they super memorable, but their creators also became more popular internationally thanks to MSC, a cycle of indie artists helping indie artists.
Not every texture was great, not every song was something I'd put in my commute playlist, but they were all human, not mass-churned-out-from-stolen-data, ya know?
MSC's TV was clips of TG and his friends for crying out loud, and now he made it the equivalent of modern youtube (AI generated brain deletion)
Plus, the most ironic part is the guy and his game's community are the most staunchly anti-piracy game community I know. The guy hates piracy more than EA loves loot boxes. And yet he used the biggest piracy of all, AI.
not all of the soundtrack is AI generated, it clearly states a TV show with two episodes uses AI
True, but still that just puts more fire to my flame: why even bother to make it AI generated, when you already have some that aren't?
Ain't like he doesn't have money to pay artists, he did it in MSC, and that game became a cult classic that could fund 30 more games that are exponentially better. And yet, he made it worse.
im gonna suspect it was down to getting source material more than anything
I mean, he could've comissioned pieces. Hell, as I said, the only program on TV in MSC is just a compilation of him and his friends.
yes and probably that's all he had
Maybe I'm so staunchly anti-AI, so boomery, that I can't accept kids these days with their dang smartphones AI generators, but ya know what, that's something I'm willing to live with. We shouldn't tolerate replacing actual artists with AI generated bull, regardless of when, where, or why
Mhm, and guess what, it still made for something memorable that people enjoyed.
He could've goddamn reused it and I'd've been less angry
He isn't replacing artists with AI, he clearly states that there are humans still involved with it.
it's just some elements that have AI usage for reasons that are probably justifiable because of reasons out of his control
Yes, but there are still things that could have been made by actual artists, that he instead used AI for. It's still critique-able, in the same vein.
I'm sure there's more than enough soundtrack in the game that's made by actual artists already in there. Modders will probably come and get rid of the AI if they really wanted to as well.
Nowhere does he say it's out of his control. Nobody had a gun to his head, forcing him to make them AI generated. If anything, the opposite: the expectation of his fanbase to receive a game better than the original, plus the added budget compared to the original from my summer car being a massive, popular game, should've motivated him to AVOID AI generated assets at all costs (no pun intended). It just makes it seem lazy, thoughtless, and basically like shovelware.
Hating piracy IMHO screams first-world raised
And don't think it'll blend in and people will forget. This isn't 2 small paintings in the house that most people never look at, it's core parts of what made the original good: the soundtrack and the visuals.
Lazy for someone who's spent the best part of 6 years working on this game? Yeah I don't think that's the right adjective to use if you ask me. He's clearly spent a lot of his time working on it and people are obviously still very excited for it regardless.
He did grow up in the finnish countryside, with MSC being based on his childhood lol
I bought MSC, it honestly bored me and refunded it. I like driving cars more than assembling them and drinking beer
Well since he ain't willing to even ask one of his many commections if they can make the assets, and instead chose to generate them with AI, yea, it's pretty damn lazy.
Piracy is not right but it's also the ONLY way millions of people get to play videogames. This is very overlooked.
Also it's sadly necessary for preservation
Lazy using AI to just create some painting on the house walls... right... okay...
I dont see what's significant about that, again if it really bothers you that much then just use the modkit and remove it.
Not advocating FOR piracy monkey stare meme at the rules, but something like 80% of the games I played as a second-world kid, I'd've had no access to without it.
I'm not talking about the paintings. I'm talking about MWC.
My Winter Car has AI generated "music" as part of the soundtrack and AI generated "content" on the TV, as well as AI generated textures. It isn't an unimportant painting on the wall, it's parts that made the original what it was, being replaced by soulless, trained-on-stolen-data slop.
I'm an artist and AI pisses me off
again the list of where AI was used in MWC was very clearly stated in bold, to me it's basically nothing and I doubt most people are going to be really that bothered. The mechanics & the gameplay will keep them busy.
I sorely wish AI was being used to take away the most basic, repetitive, uninspiring types of work, not those that actually helps us vent out
Perfectly valid. I'm more mechanics brained (which is why I'd LOOVE a train game where I maintain the trains PLEASE DOVETAIL LEMME OPEN UP AND REPLACE THE PISTONS ON A GM TWO-STROKE PLEAAASE), so MSC and MWC both drew me in.
I get where people are coming with the usage of AI in games and whilst I'm not a particular fan of it, this isn't like EA or EGS just using it to save themselves money & time (because they create big AAA titles and all that)
Same applies to a lot of folks. Car nerds tend to like how cars work, ya kno?
Clearly a lot of effort has been put into MWC and I can respect it a lot. Especially since it's like two people who have been working on it afaik
AI was promised to do my dishes and laundry, not my art and video games.
The Corris Rivett looks damn cool especially with the VIN plates that have "Birmingham" written on it lol
and take away potential jobs
I'm sure a lot of brummies will be reminded of the past when BL built all the cars there
My dood, half of MSC is driving around, and often times you turn the radio on. Also, I found myself randomly turning on the TV in MSC to see the clips of TG over and over again. There's something charming about knowing that these are some random guy's experiences, and this is how he immortalized them.
I mean, that's kinda what he did. He used it to save money and time. Money and time that he has an excess of
People are willing to wait for a game's release if it means getting a good product. I thought Cyberpunk 2077 and the wait for GTA VI taught us that lesson
Yea, I ain't sayin the game looks bad, I ain't saying the game would be bad in terms of mechanics (no pun intended), but it'd be a far more pleasant experience without the same capitalistic consumerist AI bubble being shoved down our throats again and taking away the human aspect, especially of something that could've had (and whose predecessor did have) it so easily
Delay MWC to 2027 for all I care, if it means I don't have to see any AI generated slop, and all I'll see is content made with love by humans, for humans
God we live in such a goddamn dystopia that that's an actual statement I need to make. Lord.
Anwyay
If DTG ever release a game about repairing trains (in-depth, like how MSC is, or Car Mechanic Simulator, and not just one or two steam locos) I will fly to the UK and kiss the dovetail sign outside their HQ
let us remind ourselves that big AAA companies like EA, Microsoft, Sony, etc have all been laying off staff well before this AI craze started happening. So really it's no different to what's happening right now.
In fact when I was in uni, a lot of people that came in from the industry told us to not go into the big leads and instead find smaller companies that build themselves around creating communities etc
and let's not forget TSW also uses AI for the onboard announcements and I hardly see anyone moaning about that surprisingly.
tbh most gamers don't care if AI is used, if they even notice it
whether we like it or not, AI is going to be used in some form of fashion in games, it's just the price of progress really.
It will just depend on how each company/dev utilises it. Some will use it for certain tasks, others will probably rely on it more heavily.
In fact I can think of GT7 that literally has an AI racing mode lol
I don't really care when indie devs use it because lets face it not everyone has access to a rock band to hire to make music or pay for a commission, but when a big AAA studio like Activision is using it to make AI slop calling cards then no that's pathetic.
i would agree with that, but again AAA studios don't really care.
They never have done
If they could just outright replace all their staff with AI bots they probably would but that realistically would never happen. Even if the tinfoil hat people were to say otherwise.
If all companies were in a position to do that... then capitalism would collapse because there would be no consumers
that's the thing they are forgetting when they think of AI
they need us peasants to have just a little bit of disposable income to be able to consume their products
that's the whole point of running a business
exactly, but AI is a disruptive actor in that formula
not really
Not if they pivot their businesses to cater to the wealthy
they only see the immediate pros to their profit and are unable to see the long-term effects
well, back to the Middle Ages then
Indeed
the long term effects of using AI is that they save on development costs
Until they have to hire people to fix the mess that AI made, yes
I mean... maybe... but that also happens with non AI work.
Oh, absolutely. I'm very well aware, unfortunately. 🙂
if you train an AI properly it could probably make less mistakes than a human would, but I'm not in a position to say anything else about that really
I fucking hate to say it... but people need to work to exist
yes and that isn't going away anytime soon
and AI is a threat
you'd still need a human to control the AI and tell it what to do. It doesn't just do that itself
you think that the overwhelming majority of the working class will be AI operators in the future?
the future generation maybe
government here is wanting to boost economy for those getting into AI technology
economy, good one
and I doubt it would be used just for games
I'm Argentinian
Yeah as if we haven't heard that one a million times already lol
I'm told that AI has a lot of potential in medicine uses
it definitely has and I'm curious to see how well it would do
if done right it could be a total gamechanger
But on countries like mine, where power goes out often and most people are below the poverty line... I'm not sure how impactul AI can be
at least here it's not a common discussion topic yet
depends on if you can afford to implement AI tech in the first place
this stuff doesn't exactly come cheap
the "cheap" word might as well get thrown out of the dictionary
AI is not creative, a human can develop something with cohesion in a way that makes sense, an AI can't do that it just tries it's best to replicate what is sees. Lets say you tell chatGPT to write a great story, it could do it but it would just be copying someone else's work, it doesn't have the capacity to understand context like a human writer would and that would show in the final product. People will get sick of AI stuff and then go back to human made art.
well better hope there's enough backlash to make that happen
I think you are vastly overestimating people
I think most artists know that AI doesn't have any soul when it creates stuff
AI is absolutely not going to get everything perfect, it never will.
it's worth mentioning regardless
I think there are some great use cases for AI, but we're using it wrong
exactly, I don't want to be a luddite
I reckon it's perhaps the most impressive thing we have ever done as a species, shy of the Space Race I guess
It was always going to be used the wrong way inevitably
But it's a very dangerous thing if not used properly
As someone who wants to emigrate, the prospect of AI taking jobs in first world nations is honestly horrifying
I don't want to die here, I want a shot at having a decent life before I die
If AI starts to replace jobs, people will go to more basic ones, and that will impact poorer demographics like immigrants
AI technically already has been in some places. Mostly ones that don't really pay all that well or are probably considered a potential health risk
in my country this is happening, but not due to AI but due to the collapsing economy. I'm aware of people like architects having to do delivery work or Uber because there's no new, upcoming work on their field
things like this make me wonder why my mom is still so insistent on me doing a career
if AI is bound to become the main kind of employment in the future, then governments better start preparing people for it
i doubt it will be the main kind of employment
it will be an option and im sure a lot of newer generations will want to go down that path as it's quite advanced
well you said it could be for the upcoming generations
I never said it will be the only kind of employment
I can't see AI being useful in fields like plumbing, for instance
robots will get soaked wet 
Physical tasks are something an AI can't really do, unless it in an assembly line setting
which is technically something that already exists
yeah, repetitive tasks in a controlled environment sure
and we're decades off robots coming to your home and fixing your pipes
and has been for many years
but plumbing? you can do that in ANY sort of environment
that's always going to be a pipe dream imo
excuse the pun

and even if it is, wont exactly be something everyone can afford.
same as ever 🙄
I mean dishwashers already exist
not something you see on the average household
my uncle works for a big tech company and he was trained to use ChatGPT to problem solve, to me it sounds like he's about to be let go but there's apparently a lot of human input still required
Also... human memory can be very flawed
well yeah AI still needs something to be inputted in order to work
(I know this very well
)
AI can hold theoretically an infinite amount of knowledge, even if true or not
it's up to the human element to review if it's useful
AI can just scour the internet for information. That's how it finds it.
"one Reddit user says:"
that's essentially how ChatGPT works, it's based off of many algorithims etc
I myself have never actually used ChatGPT, and I don't intend to either
it has it's uses, like for coding
i suck at coding tbh
or for asking embarrasing questions you don't want to ask reddit
like genuinely, I don't see myself ever doing stuff like that again. Doesn't work with my dyslexia
I did a bit of coding at college, wasn't very good at it
if it was health related, I'd probably ask a doctor
trained professionals are better than a computer
but chatGPT did help me build a site from scratch, and is way more useful than Stack Overflow. Fuck stack overflow
Oh god, Stack Overflow
when I was doing Unity coding back in Uni, the most prominent error was "object reference not set to an instance of an object"
god I get that error in games sometimes
Yes, but my problem exactly is that Toplessgun can/has access to musicians to make the music for his game. He's got the resources thanks to MSC, he just chose to use AI instead.
the car is the peugeot 307 wrc 2.0 from kronos and the stage is muracciole vezzani
cars: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NrHJ8tLl9LbCFWpilov39zE35q-LjZ6xF-jpxHDQC-M
track:
https://www.overtake.gg/downloads/tour-de-corse-muracciole-vezzani-rally-stage-by-jcrr.28413/
that kronos cars link is a GOLDMINE btw
hot damn you weren't kidding
honestly, if you can think of the rally car - they probably have it
uhh, can't really remember it's been a long time but i think the ones i've tried are pretty decent? that 307 was super fun to throw around that track
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Weirdly I can't find the 307 on there - should be under WRC 2.0 01-05 right?
oh thats weird
lemme see
this should do 
can go back on that folder and see the raw google drive too which should have anything else that's missing from the spreadsheet
perfect, thanks 😄
I love the sheer variety of stuff assetto corsa has
Yeah not all of it's brilliant quality but if you're picky enough you get stuff that you can have fun with
The problem with AC is... that you start downloading shit for it, and it eventually becomes your largest game by size 😩
also, it's not a game you can truly enjoy without a wheel
reminds me, i was sending the VRC honda accord up one of those rally tracks earlier 😭
gunna try with a 962 tomorrow if i get time 
Oh my god the Peel
in CM you can compress your AC install, can help abit with diskspace
The power pack is £25
A little more than I expected
All the races in power pack use Sophy AI and once you start a race you can't restart it damn
Then don't think just do
Ah, the weird not-an-Evo Cedia
would love to know why they did that 
Also I see you have the version with the borked glass textures - there's a repaint on the discord with fixed glass textures (i spent way too long trying to fix them in photoshop last night)
#1037348114916450314 message
I think you can even borrow the glass texture from that one to fix the base one, same driver and number
oh nice ty, hadn't actually noticed 
not sure i'll get to try it out today but app the evo 0.4 update is really decent?
Will try it out
Big update coming for LMU also
Spent a few hours with it , tried the mini at Oulton, the Cayman at Road Atlanta and the M3 at Monza, cars and tracks are good, the physics on this thing are fantastic, but they really need to do simething with the AI. Most boring predictable AI ever. They will not move a millimetre off their racing line for anything
This Ferrari handles beautifully on Yas Marina
Someone on another server asked me “if I still have plenty to explore on original AC should I consider AC evo ?” My answer was definitely not yet
yeaahh, i mean as good as it feels/looks it still doesn't replace what the majority of people use AC for
which is just mods, really
the new GT7 power pack is not worth it
I really don't know why they charged money for it
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looks very fun
Some guy actually recommended this game when trying out shit games lol
i've got it, was pretty chill - fun to drive
nice nostalgia bait if you grew up with the og colin mcrae games
ayo? lfs revival? 
was literally the first game i ever used my G27 on back when i bought it in 2011
dumpster fire
for those of y'all curious how I got Satsuma LX and Pre-FL to work together, https://www.reddit.com/r/MySummerCar/comments/1phjb4h/so_you_want_to_run_prefacelift_satsuma_and/
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i remember seeing monte carlo in the files, so i'd assume that one
Loch Ard is the best stage
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once again, another EA moment
killing a franchise off because its probably not profitable anymore
what a joke
Man the steering in Beam with a controller is so bad
the new ams2 update looks promising https://www.overtake.gg/news/us-stock-cars-to-arrive-in-automobilista-2-alongside-reworked-hud-new-supercars-nürburgring-tourist-layout.3993/
nascar is hype
AMS2 is quietly becoming one of the best single player experiences in simracing
Good news after the ridiculously arcade Nascar 25
Not checked out the latest AC evo update yet
oh sick
love driving those old ones in NR2003
Thats what I feel too, I hope it gets proper championships and career mode soon
Thats what im kinda missing personally
You can create your own championship either from scratch or using the templates
O i didnt know there was templates
Hey question
Is there a way to make controller steering tighter in Beam?
It feels really loose
Dozens of them, still a career mode would be good
Cooking as always 🔥
NASCAS is out for AMS2 now
Short flight to finish then Im on it
Ai are rough
For nascar?
Yup wrecking me
I havent tried it with ai yet, I expected it though ngl
Nope qualifying first at daytona is unplayable constantly wrecked out, try something else
Qually at Pocono is a blast in the gen 3 lets see how the race goes
Fantatic, started on pole, lost it on exit T3 and fought my way back to the front again.Try Daytona again
daytona racing worked for me atleast
i didnt try qualifying
the only wreck i had was myself
NASCAR mid
mid
its pretty much free
top tier expansion
just need the proper liveries and markings now and im p much set
hope they add more related content in the future
would be a blast
mid
was surprsied to see some of the nascar stuff just in my game and available to drive
(i dont own any DLCs on AMS2)
then again i have no idea how AMS2 works
finna try it with a wheel tomorrow, see how it be
craving a new sim racing burn but idk where to direct it
mid
they make the dlcs that release free for two weeks after release i think
Very much looking forward to trying it out when I get home. How are the NASCAR stock cars to drive in AMS2?
Nascar Season 2025 to AMS2
Skins of Nascar Season 2025 to AMS2 Stock USA G3
Installation instructions:
- The folders "vehicles" and "UserData" should be placed in your Automobilista 2 folder or Automobilista 2 Beta folder.
- Place the...
Very much need more ovals, but they will come.
Some look down on oval racing cos its seen as easy. While its certainly easier than road racing there are subtleties to it. Tyre management, the draft and corner exit are the keys You want to be coming out of the corner as straight as possible
Plus its a blast and you dont need to remember which way it goes 😆
Absolutely destroyed the AI gen 1 at Fontana historic, need to try these things out on a road course
Holy 💩 these things are a handfull on a road course! Give it a try if you want an evil challenge
Much more practice required before I can tackle a full race on road
mario kart or AC?
Mario Corsa :P
icl, can't believe i slept on AMS2 for so long
been some of the most fun i've had in a single player racing game for a good while
it is really amazing ❤️
Some of the weirder cars are fun in their own right too
AMS2's 2025 Nurburgring is pretty good
I've got a mix of GT3 Gen2, GT4, Porsche Carrera Cup and Mini JCW Cup to simulate an NLS/N24 race, and it's working really well
the GT3s feel so much better than they used to in AMS2 as well
Never tried AMS2 online wonder if its decent or full of wreckers, need to try sometime
Thats what im doing too
More racing games because yes


