Flight Sims (MSFS, P3D, X-Plane, DCS, FS98...)

[reef isle]

found a random stream

that was recent, so it had the most recent cockpit model

[trim harbor]

feelsbad

reminds me of the 737 NGX

[reef isle]

NOT EVEN a photo shot from this low down can make the windows feel that tall

it's just stupid

and yeah sometimes the Xplane's FoV can make everything feel a bit fisheye-y

but it's not THAT bad

like, the IXEG cockpit can also look a little weird if you zoom out enough

but you can tell it's just weird FoV

with the 757 you can tell it's just all completely wrong

the yoke not even covering the ND is also hilarious

and it's tiny

it's just all wrong, and I have 0 faith they'll ever improve it

so I'm just waiting for the BlueBalls

[trim harbor]

i swear the 757 is either xp9 or xp10

[runic hare]

the VC model is from XP9

Don't worry we are getting 2 AT76's and an AT75 this year

[rustic charm]

Fair, not bad

Although would be nice to have earlier ones too

[trim harbor]

forgot how long it takes this tihng to boot up from cd

[reef isle]

nearly there 🙂

amazing how quickly I can do things whenever I'm actually motived for some reason

[rustic charm]

Nearly there too

[rustic charm]

Welcome to Miami

[dusty sky]

I'd love to have something older to fly to miami

[reef isle]

https://flightsim.to/addon/108199/inibuilds-l-1011-air-luxor-luzair-hybrid-scheme-cs-teb

[trim harbor]

w

[reef isle]

I missed the wing reg

I'll update it tomorrow

actually I'll do it now

I won't be able to live with myself

[trim harbor]

@reef isle do u do commissions per chance?

[reef isle]

Maybe?

not sure if I'd like getting paid

if it's easy I'll do it for free

[trim harbor]

Im looking for someone who can create liveries, it‘s a large scale commission though spanning multiple aircraft though

[reef isle]

ok, no promises, but feel free to send some details my way

[reef isle]

added the reg under the wing

now I can go away

[rustic charm]

So they're doing it huh

[rustic charm]

Love Alaska

[dusty sky]

bro what

I uh

I don't have any words

people on xbox are gonna be exited ig

[rustic charm]

Also I'm pretty sure the 380 would feel exactly like the 350 anyway

Well

That's cause it just won't feel, at all

It's a FBW aircraft, you won't feel how it flies at all

Same as the 350

So I honestly doubt having specifically A380 pilots testing it would bring anything new to the table

[full plank]

im personally quite happy with the FBW A380, so I think i'll pass

not that inibuilds aircraft have impressed me in the slightest either

[rustic charm]

I just don't fly the 380, but for the rare times I do, the FBW is more than good enough

[tired pond]

Tbh I don't think I'll get any airbuses on top of the fenix ceo's bar the fenix neo's

I like my aircraft to be different enough rather than just longer or bigger

[reef isle]

I agree

I might make an exception for the A343 at some point

[hollow oracle]

https://x.com/25YearsAgoLive/status/2050321270701543425?s=20

2001 Live (@25YearsAgoLive)

Low-cost carrier Spirit Airlines announces the introduction of routes to Puerto Rico, and a Spanish-language web site.

X · May 1, 2026, 9:07 PM

about that

[hollow oracle]

huh

there's still a Kalitta NHRA top fuel drag racing team, and his nephew (Doug Kalitta) still races for the team

and of course kalitta racing is sponsored by kalitta air

[hollow oracle]

spirit airlines is officially dead

:(

[tired pond]

Rip

[alpine coral]

Rip Spirit

[reef isle]

I'm not at home

If any of you can do so without it being a problem or hassle

Can you maybe check if the Azerbaijan livery is included with the felis Tu-154 please?

Sorry thank you

https://www.avsimrus.com/f/fs2004-aircraft-liveries-and-textures-39/tu-154m-azal-4k-az10-23884.html

Maybe I can convert this somehow?

[rustic charm]

As far as I know, no

I don't have it on either the Б2 or the M

[reef isle]

Thank you

Very much appreciate it

[rustic charm]

No problem

[rustic charm]

Honestly, the maddog installer is just annoying lol

[rustic charm]

I hate DFW

[rustic charm]

The plane just died mid takeoff roll lol

Gonna retry

Was busy watching the Miami sprint anyway

[reef isle]

too much thrust?

[rustic charm]

Tbh

That probably was it

I'm often not careful enough with thrust

[dusty sky]

the maddog has that

very cool

inibuilds should probably take note

[rustic charm]

Well which planes that ini made would benefit from simulating what happens when you have too much thrust?

You literally can't overthrottle an Airbus lol

[dusty sky]

L1011

idk I might be larping

[rustic charm]

Pretty sure the 1011 doesn't really care too much either

[reef isle]

I think it might

Because no FADEC

But the 1011 isn't a 90€ plane

[rustic charm]

So how do I reset this thing...

Quite obviously I broke something on that takeoff attempt

Now it just doesn't start

And worst part is, it always loads in the same state I left it in

Even when I switch regs lol

[reef isle]

I think you can reset it using the load manager?

[rustic charm]

Don't think so

[reef isle]

you can't install the navigraph airac on while the plane is running on the MD-11 right?

no idea why I'm having some issues with Navigraph hub

which is scary since bad navigraph data can killl the plane

[full plank]

no you have to do it via the navigraph hub

[dusty sky]

China eastern A350 collided with a jetway today

[reef isle]

nigh Guarulhos landing in bad weather with the MD-11

this can only go well

I was quite disappointed with the hand flying

the trim is really twitchy 🫤

flew it to FL200

[trim harbor]

quite a small fleet

if i do say so myself

[rustic charm]

At least it's not Congonhas

Also, why not the older livery, it's really pretty

[reef isle]

1998 schedule and wanted to fly the PW

[reef isle]

hahaha true

although they're both pretty sketchy

[rustic charm]

Tbh I haven't done Guarulhos yet, but soon

[reef isle]

perfeclty on glide and 4 reds is such a MSFS moment...

of course at the end I get scared and tried to follow the PAPIs a bit, until I realized I was way too high

at least I have an excuse for my terrible landing

the very forgiving MSFS stall physics saved me from stalling at 100ft or so, if this was Xplane I'd be dead probably

[civic aspen]

Picked up the Blacksquare Starship, very fun to operate

[reef isle]

ooooo nice ❤️

[civic aspen]

On the ground at Lynden Pindling after an hours flight from Tampa, I'm very impressed with this

[alpine coral]

I swear I saw that screenshot on Volanta earlier today lol

[civic aspen]

I did post it on there yes

[rustic charm]

MSFS be MSFS

It's really quite annoying ngl

[trim harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pU4SDODCS0

the 3d model still isnt done at all

u can clearly see it

also the windows look off i swear

[dusty sky]

they look kinda tall

[reef isle]

Haters will say it makes no sense to fly in and out of Riga until the A220 comes out

I will forgive the writing being too tall this time

I will also commit another crime against humanity, I'll fly with the wrong plane, I'll probably do some of the TU3 flights with the TU5

but at least there's some evidence to suggest this did actually happen

I suppose being a small airline with a handful of planes it wasn't unreasonable to have a higher degree of plane substitution, that's my excuse at least

Also, I'll use the KLN90B, so I'll enjoy feeling my brain actively rotting while I have to scroll through all the letters with the rotary selector, if I'm good I'm hoping to manage like 2 waypoints a minute

please kill me 😭

[rustic charm]

Tbh I imagine they would be used interchangeably quite often

[rustic charm]

Just use the NVU instead :P

[reef isle]

My mental illness is too strong

late '90s flights in Europe

[rustic charm]

Waypoints? Nah. "200km on track 120" to hopefully end up somewhere at least reasonably close to the destination? Hell yeah

[full plank]

CPH 👀

[rustic charm]

Thai time

[dusty sky]

god damn

on the dot

[rustic charm]

Love the MD-11

It just looks so nice

[civic aspen]

In love with this thing

[civic aspen]

Bit of VFR flying on my trip up the East Coast of the USA

[alpine coral]

Nice 👌
Interesting design

[rustic charm]

The FAA is not happy

[trim harbor]

https://careers.ba.com/job/chicago/taxi-crew-chicago-o-hare/22348/94593554176

$100k to taxi a 787:777 around ORD

Ook

[rustic charm]

Yeah but

It's ORD

Firstly one of the worst airports out there

Secondly it's Chicago, so it's pretty much a 50/50 chance of whether you'll arrive to work on time or be shot on your way to work

[hollow oracle]

you also need to be a former 777 or 787 captain or first officer to get it lmfao

how does that even work anyway? are you deadheading on the flights and then you taxi once it lands in ohare? or is this for like gate-to-gate or ramp-to-gate or something

[rustic charm]

Ramp to ramp

They wrote it's basically to move the plane between terminals

Doubt they'd fly you back and forth for no reason. You'd be based in Chicago simply

Which again, it's a good salary but it comes at the expence of a high chance of getting shot at

[hollow oracle]

https://x.com/Fahadnaimb/status/2050637854968254501?s=20

Fahad Naim (@Fahadnaimb)

Total brake system failure. Check out the fault messages.... thrust reversers were the only lifeline. A full collapse of all five redundant braking modes is almost unthinkable. Each wheel group is independent, yet everything failed. Airbus has serious work ahead.

X · May 2, 2026, 6:05 PM

https://tenor.com/view/say-whaaat-gif-18261283115155956121

thats not terrifiying at all

[hollow oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-gif-20433500

[hollow oracle]

what even is this thing supposed to be in the cockpit of the 757?

its way too small to be a coffee cup, but it looks like it has some liquid at the bottom

[hollow oracle]

you ever land so smooth that you dont even realize that your rear wheels are on the ground

[trim harbor]

You have to live in the US

[rustic charm]

Ngl, delivering yak-40s will be even tougher than Tupolevs

The tupolev plant at least still exist

The Yakovlev plant is just completely gone lol

[reef isle]

it's also very slow and has a hilarious range

[rustic charm]

Yeah

But well

Delivering them to Moscow doesn't need much range

They were built in Saratov

So close enough

Closer than Tupolevs even

[reef isle]

these two flights, the shorter one was with the Yak, the longer one with the Tu-154, they both took roughly the same amount of time 😭

[rustic charm]

But delivering them to the far east, where they would have the most use...

[reef isle]

Yes....

[rustic charm]

Even a Tu-154 can't really go from Kazan to Vladivostok directly

A Yak-40 would need 3 times as many legs, plus Saratov is actually further away from there

[reef isle]

yeah sounds like a proper adventure lol

and it's not really possible to just let it fly and do something else

since I think the most advanced lateral autopilot mode is roll

I don't even remember if it has heading or not, I don't think it does

[rustic charm]

Like... Saratov - Ufa - Omsk (if it even can) - Novosibirsk - Krasnoyarsk - Irkutsk - Chita - Blagoveshchensk - Vladivostok, something of that sort

Start the flight in 1970, by the time you get to Vladivostok - congratulations, the USSR collapsed and everyone moved on to use ATRs

Maximum mach number of 0.7 is just crazy lol

And a service ceiling of 8km, FL260 lol

[rustic charm]

And Cuba... idk how I would even get one there lol

[reef isle]

on a boat lol

[rustic charm]

It probably would be easier to load it onto a ship and move it that way lol

[reef isle]

(I genuinely have no idea)

[rustic charm]

Tbh I actually wonder how they did it

Cause I doubt the US, Canada and Europe would allow refueling stops for a delivery to Cuba

Although I guess Aeroflot did fly to the US and Canada after all, so maybe planes were kinda allowed?

[reef isle]

https://www.airliners.net/photo/Cubana/Yakovlev-Yak-40/2208797

[rustic charm]

No fucking way

[reef isle]

moar fuel

[rustic charm]

They'd just throw these over the atlantic in one flight?

That is absolutely crazy

[reef isle]

looks like it hahahah

[rustic charm]

0 navigation, 0 anything

[reef isle]

maybe via cape verde?

[rustic charm]

Probably some 8-9 hours to do it too

[reef isle]

must have been so awful

[rustic charm]

I guess it does help they had navigators

But yeah

Must've been absolutely horrible

Probably navigating by stars too

[reef isle]

So, TABA's BAe146s were delivered via Seville-Sal Island-Rio Grande

[rustic charm]

Well there are stopovers in the atlantic

[reef isle]

no but Sal Island is too far south for it to make sense here

[rustic charm]

But of course

Cuba couldn't use most of them

[reef isle]

yeah I definitely don't think they were delivered via the US

there are no photos of any cubana aircraft being delivered like that I don't think

[rustic charm]

I think going from Cape Verde to the northeast of Brazil could be possible?

Although I don't remember how Brazil was aligned back then

[reef isle]

https://www.airhistory.net/photo/551237/CU-T1221
"transported by sea to Santiago de Cuba for reassembly and delivery."

ok, so maybe the tanks were used to get it to somewhere were it would then be loaded onto a ship

[rustic charm]

Hmm, that does seem realistic

Could be Cape Verde itself

I'm pretty sure Aeroflot used it as a stopover for 62s going to South America

Now I remembered that we don't have 62s so I'm sad for today...

[reef isle]

yeah but if you'll disassemble it and load it onto a boat

might as well load it in Europe itself no?

[rustic charm]

Yeah

I mean, there surely were some political obstacles

Who knows if they'd be allowed passage through the mediterranean

[reef isle]

oh I guess it would have been from the north sea

[rustic charm]

But at that point, why not just throw it on a short flight from Saratov to Murmansk (although for a Yak-40 that would probably be done in 2-3 flights) and then just ship from there

[reef isle]

yeah that's what I was thinking

why in Prague?

[rustic charm]

No idea

I mean

[reef isle]

I mean it could be that to save time they got to somewhere in africa and then loaded it onto a ship there

[rustic charm]

I guess shipping from somewhere like Cape Verde does save a couple days of time

Cause compared to going from Murmansk, that cuts the sea route in half. Even more really

And as we know quite well, ships are slow, plens are fast (when it comes to a Yak-40, comparatively fast)

[reef isle]

yes

it's crazy how little photos there are of the Cubana's Yak-40s

I can't find anything at all besides these two in Prague

(outside of Cuba anyway)

wait, Yak-40s were never actually produced in Prague were they?

no

[rustic charm]

No, just Saratov iirc

[reef isle]

YOOOOOOOOOO

https://www.airhistory.net/photo/109290/CU-T1440

Reykjavik-Shannon-Berlin-Minsk @rustic charm

but this was for maintenance after the fall of the Soviet Union

but it's still something

I wonder how it got to Reykjavik

must have been via the US and canada

[rustic charm]

That's interesting

[reef isle]

ok so this is what I'll tell myself so i can stop thinking about this

the photo with the tanks is in '89

by that time the cold war was even cooler and it's not too much of an outlandish proposition for the US and Canada to let Cubana fly their stupid little planes around

so the "transatlatic tanks" were there so they could actually fly the northerly route via Shannon

[rustic charm]

Probably, yeah

[reef isle]

but one (or both) of these are true:

1. Either when first delivered they were actually transported by ship (no matter the date), but for regular maintenance they'd fly via north america (I guess from a propaganda PoV it could make sense for the US to be unhappy about helping cubana get new planes, but maybe they'd be less unhappy about their planes being maintained?)

2. It was just a timing thing, and after a certain date they were allowed to fly via north America, so they just did, and before they were just shipped, probably via the north sea.

that would also make sense as to why they were in Prague

ok, so the dates would also actually make sense

this (in 1980) is the first photo in Airliners.net of a Cubana plane in the US

without it being a hijacking or deflection

so I guess from the '80s onwards the US was cool with Cubana planes in the US?

[rustic charm]

I guess so

I mean, I think at some point Cubana started having routes into the US?

So at some point the US definitely became fine with it

[reef isle]

after having to cancel yesterday's flight I barely managed to survive and land for the first time in the 154b2 in Xplane12

this thing is very different from the old version I had in XP11 😭

[dusty sky]

Why TF did It give me il-62 with 6 engines in the search completion

[reef isle]

most normal soviet prototype

[dusty sky]

This is what I wanted

YR-IRC

[rustic charm]

Yeah there's one random pic which I'm pretty sure is just photoshop, and somehow it's one of the first pictures that you get as a result for searching Il-62 lol

Also, remember my issues with the maddog a few days ago?

Yes the ones where I broke the plane and it decided that now that broken state is the default state

Well

I. fucking. reinstalled. the. thing.

It's still in the same state

[rustic charm]

The balkans are beautiful

I really gotta get fly the 154 to Tivat

[rustic charm]

That is simply lovely

Anyway, it looked like the engines on the maddog worked this time, so time to leave awful DFW and go to a (not really) quiet Caribbean retreat

But first, I gotta set some boarding music

Cause apparently the maddog allows you to just use anything

Do any other planes actually allow you to do that?

I'm pretty sure the 146 had boarding music

Gotta fly the 146 soon too, I've got a Dan Air one on standby after all, and iirc they used to fly those to Innsbruck

[reef isle]

146, RJ and Fenix do too 😄

[rustic charm]

Welp I don't have the RJ, but gonna have to set it for Fenix too

Cause I found the perfect opion

Let's see if anyone here knows

[dusty sky]

Apparently this image is Madrid

Which like

Sure ig

I don't even know anymore

[rustic charm]

It does look like it could be Madrid

Cubana did a lot of stopovers in Spain iirc

[dusty sky]

Says it was taken in Madrid

[rustic charm]

I mean, yeah, if it says taken in Madrid then it's probably Madrid

What's wrong with that

[rustic charm]

Okay now the plane works, but...

MSFS decided that removing chocks is too much to handle lol

Welp, taxiing out

And before you ask

The chocks are in fact still on

[dusty sky]

Bro...

How did you know what I was gonna say

[rustic charm]

Ugh I hate DFW

[dusty sky]

Only big airport I don't hate is Heathrow

Only cuz I'm very used to it

[rustic charm]

There are many that I actually like

Heathrow, Sheremetyevo, Anchorage, Malpensa, Memphis, JFK, Miami

All are good

But DFW... nah

[hollow oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-brown-dog-biting-angry-gif-9961952653154437184

[dusty sky]

Honestly

So real

[rustic charm]

Love to see it

[dusty sky]

You're fine bro

You can glide

Believe in the founding fathers

[reef isle]

I mean, George Washington was famous for playing with his kite...

[rustic charm]

Copying my jokes

How dare ye

[dusty sky]

[rustic charm]

HAHAH I need to fly this route with ATC now

"American 606 requesting direct to fatso"

[dusty sky]

I got once "United 2331 cleared direct BZNGA"

Which was pronounced as bazinga

[hollow oracle]

i honstly dont understand why people say toliss' cockpit texturing is bad, its pretty adequate

[dusty sky]

To me it looks kinda strange but that's mostly me being used to msfs

[rustic charm]

Goodbye US, off into the Caribbean now

Btw, the fuel expectancy on climb is just weird lol, cause now it shows me fuel on arrival at 8klbs, on climbout it was down to 4.7 iirc

[dusty sky]

I only know metric tons

[rustic charm]

How hard is it to multiply by 1000 mate

Do you want me to write 8.0 * 10^3 lbs next time

[dusky leaf]

2304 lbs in a metric tonne

[dusty sky]

Yes

[dusky leaf]

2204 sorry

[rustic charm]

Romania's just complaining about me writing 8klbs instead of 8000lbs

Just some banter lol

[dusty sky]

I'm just being a bitch cuz I'm bored

[dusky leaf]

and 2240 in a us ton. easy to remember cos you just swap the 0 & 4

[dusty sky]

I thought for a second this was airac cycle you were talking about I have no idea why

2403 has traumatized me

I love my airac cycle from April 2022

[rustic charm]

Over the Bahamas

[dusky leaf]

Need to take the Rotate MD80 for a run

[rustic charm]

I should keep my fucking mouth shut

"Going to beautiful Caribbean"

Haha nope

Right engine out

Well it says I can still make it to San Juan

[trim harbor]

@rustic charm

i need your help

how did you fly deliveries from alaska to japan

[rustic charm]

While being scared

Alternative answer is "With hopes and prayers"

[rustic charm]

Starting in Cold Bay

[reef isle]

Don't most US Diesel locos use kLbs (force)?

[rustic charm]

If the plane is small enough, could use Unalaska and Adak, much closer

Can someone please find a chart for ILS 14 in MYNN

Can't seem to find a single free source

[trim harbor]

damnit

thats PADK or whatever

isnt it?

trying to get a delivery tour done for the Ejets rn

but the 175 cant make it

and i REALLY dont wanna route it eastbound via the eu from brazil

[rustic charm]

Yeah

[trim harbor]

RJCK is kushiro iirc

[rustic charm]

Probably

I just selected the closest one cause I was almost flying on fumes at that point

Was supposed to go to Sapporo initially

You can see I had an INS fuckup in the beginning too, plus I had a bad climb, I reckon if I did everything correctly from the start I would've reached the destination fine

[hollow oracle]

epcot center in XP12

[dusty sky]

Dead chat

Let's revive

747 :>

[dusty sky]

Hell yeah

[rustic charm]

Pretty

[trim harbor]

Life man

Busy : (

[rustic charm]

I'm just debating what to fly

Also slowly packing up the bags (even though I don't have to leave for at least 10 days lol)

[full plank]

thinking of flying either the A321neo or the 777-300ER

[rustic charm]

Packing up is a pain now cause idk if my bags will be within weight limits

Normally they would be

But I bought a steering wheel

The base weighs over 6kg by itself

[dusty sky]

I wasn't home like 65% of the day myself

[dusky leaf]

For those not on the FJS discord. The 732 in testing in 12

[hollow oracle]

didnt even know there was a FJS discord

[reef isle]

they've been working on it for ages 🥲

I might start to fly the 727 a lot

I think I'll give up on XP11 as soon as they release their 732

but I really don't want to fly the FSS 727 😭

[tired pond]

Ambient occlusion be like ight I'm out

[rustic charm]

Tbf it's fine, just wish we had more cockpit options

Also for me personally, wish it worked...

Idk why but it just broke on my end lol

Well, the radio panels broke

And that's a problem cause I can't set a single VOR

[reef isle]

I can't explain justify this rationally, but I just don't like it. Somehow that cockpit is repulsive to me

I don't know what it is

[rustic charm]

Fair

[reef isle]

I just look at the FSS 727 cockpit and want it to go away

at least with the FF757 I can rationally justify why, since it's totally wrong, but the FSS 727 isn't that bad

It just looks wrong to me for some reason

[rustic charm]

Anyway, today ain't about 727s for me

Decided that I want to fly into some truly random airports

And not like small town in Montana kind of random, real random

And there's only one way to do that

[dusty sky]

Fly to the other Bucharest airport

(the one south of LROP)

[rustic charm]

Nah, don't wanna fly at night

[dusty sky]

Fly toooooo

Uh

[rustic charm]

Plus I found the perfect option

As I said, when you want random airports, there's just 1 way to do it

[dusty sky]

Going on flight radar, filter the planes out of click randomly?

Please bro I need to know

[full plank]

Tel Aviv

[dusty sky]

Oh hell nah 😭

[rustic charm]

Well, tbh I need to put all the politics aside and fly there at some point, also I'm pretty sure RedWings actually currently runs Tu-214s there from Moscow

But well, I don't have the 214 yet

[dusty sky]

Have you ever heard of animawings

[rustic charm]

No

[dusty sky]

Best airline bro

So good that I've only heard of them from vatsim 😭

[rustic charm]

Hell yeah

I love this thing

Only managed to start engine 1 on 3rd attempt lol

Honestly the fact that this thing actually has an alt hold mode and the Tu-154 doesn't is the funniest thing ever

Perfect cruise altitude...

[trim harbor]

Holy shit

No way

[reef isle]

it does 🙂

it's the "H" button

[rustic charm]

Well yeah but the last time it didn't really do a good job

It did try, I'll give it that

[reef isle]

fair, it was always good for me

[rustic charm]

It tried its best to hold the altitude

But it ended up starting to oscilate

More and more

So I decided to just leave the plane without it, just in a state trimmed close to level lol

[reef isle]

ok that's weird, I had this discussion with people while testing the TriStar, and I said that both the 134's and 154's autopilot have been better than the first iteration of the ini 1011 (I think it was in 1.0.1 or .2 that they improved it)

and got some pushback

maybe soviet auopilots like me?

[rustic charm]

Maybe lol

I didn't have a problem with the 1011 at all, even right on release tbh

[reef isle]

I still have big problems with IAS and MACH, I stopped using them again and just use V/S, but that might correct

[rustic charm]

Well I did have some issues with AT, but as far as I know it's just Tristar logic kicking in, not any bugs or inaccuracies (in all fairness, the opposite)

[reef isle]

yeah I think it's weird what happened with the 1011

I think in part the real autopilot was actually rubbish in some cases and could ""fail"" (i.e. start to oscillate weirdly), but at the same time I think ini sort of "overcorrected" and made it overly bad in certain cases

[reef isle]

I think how it is now it's a better compromise being totally honest, it's not perfect, but it's not bad to the point it's worse than the the one in the stupid Tu-134 😅

I am of the idea that IAS and MACH are probably not that bad IRL, but I have nothing real that supports this idea of mine

[rustic charm]

Fair

Tbh I haven't tried them really

Vspeed, INS and AT are the way to go

On the topic of AT

Do you know what makes it kick into AOA mode

Cause it basically just starts keeping the minimal non-stall speed, and doesn't actually let me increase the reference speed

[reef isle]

AoA is the "baseline" mode, so if it doesn't know what it should do, or you don't tell it, it will "fall back" to AoA

maybe try to select IAS first and then try to increase the speed, or select TM

[rustic charm]

Weird... I always select AT and IAS, set it to some value, and then it occasionally ends up switching into AOA

[hollow oracle]

i hate how different devs do different things in xplane

flightfactors thrust reversers are press to hold in maximum reverse thrust

but like every other aircraft is toggle reverse, and then throttle up to increase reverse thrust

ended up overrunning the runway big time because i forgot that flightfactor is different

[rustic charm]

Challenge: find the runway

Found it

Horrible approach, but not a bad landing

[reef isle]

does anyone have the link for the An-24 in Xplane12?

I'm finding some stuff for it

but not the actual whole plane

[reef isle]

nice ❤️

[rustic charm]

Couldn't find it myself

Only saw the XP11 version on github, nothing else

[reef isle]

oh, I guess that explains it

I saw that someone managed to make it work by messing in Plane Maker, but the autopilot doesn't work

[rustic charm]

Ah well, makes sense

Hopefully soon enough

[reef isle]

https://vk.ru/wall182049872_349

this was that version I told you about

no autopilot but flyable

(and that's the An-26, not the 24)

I think it's just a model swap with an FSX model, but everything inside is An-24

[rustic charm]

Fair

Don't think the 2 are much different anyway

[reef isle]

yeah don't think so

don't know much about these planes but I think they're fairly similar

[rustic charm]

But without AP at all I doubt I'll be able to fly it much

[reef isle]

I might give it a try, and see if I can survive, I don't mind hand flying, but I'll have to see how big the workload is

[rustic charm]

Especiall considering this thing is fucking slow

[reef isle]

ahah is it?

surely can't be worse than an ATR

[rustic charm]

Around 240kts iirc

Even lower if heavy

That's lower than the DC-6 XD

And the DC-6 is hardly a racecar

See, the USSR either builds absolute rockets like the Tu-154 (I'm pretty sure it can cruise up to .88 and .9 even if not too heavy, and around .84 under normal loads), or absolute bricks that will end up taking 5 business days to move you 200 miles, and not a single mile more because they run out of range

[reef isle]

yay

and I think xplane just crashed

I'm sure it's fine 😄

so unfortunate that I think it's the only soviet turboprop available in any modern sim at all

no An-12, Tu-95 or Tu-114

[rustic charm]

Yeah

[reef isle]

I'd love a Tu-114 🥺

[rustic charm]

It would be amazing indeed

More things to scare US controllers with

Also

The simple speed of that thing

And overall the performance

FL390 ceiling (probably could go higher)
Mach 0.8 maximum speed
Enough range to go from Moscow to New York

Basically the USSR built a turboprop that is essentially a jet in all of its stats

[reef isle]

weakest soviet turboprop powered aircraft

[reef isle]

to be fair I think its "economic cruise" was a little slower and lower than most jets

but the fuel consumption was very impressive, especially for the time

[rustic charm]

Well yeah

But still, even the econ cruise would be faster than any other turboprop really

[reef isle]

yeah definitely

there's no question that it's the best performing civilian turboprop

[rustic charm]

Heck, I wouldn't limit to civilian

Especially considering that it is basically a reinteriored Tu-95 bomber

[fickle oar]

been ponding hoping in this recently, very fun n rewarding aircraft to fly

just hope that fslabs gets theirs out for msfs at some point soon

[hollow oracle]

might finally do KBOS-LFPG tomorrow

[hollow oracle]

https://fixvx.com/ryanair/status/2051980757225161057?s=46

Ryanair (@Ryanair)

Brits in Tenerife be like

QRT: Shrek
Y’all mind if an ogre speaks a little español tonight?

vxTwitter / fixvx · May 6, 2026, 11:01 AM

The crossover we never knew we needed

[rustic charm]

Why do I ever even hope that the weather in Alaska is clear skies...

Never happens

Not once

[reef isle]

XP11 still rocks 😄

Maybe next time I'll do 721 from Tempelhof to Munich-Riem

backdate it in the late '60s and '70s instead of '80s

then maybe I can do a little bit of UAL 727 from Heathrow?

not sure why I'm in the mood of doing US carrier flights in the EU 😄

[rustic charm]

That's the best possible kind of PAA/UAL flying you can do lol

I think Delta had something in Europe too?

[reef isle]

I'm not sure tbh I'd have to check

IIRC PAA definitely had the biggest network

[rustic charm]

I really need to fly some PAA 727s in Europe

Tegel to Moscow

I even own the payware Tegel

Engines: 4
TOW: 78000lbs
TORA: no

Time for 200 miles of hoping cause the only navaid at PAIM is an NDB and we all know MSFS is shit with those

[rustic charm]

I found it...

Then lost it again

This runway's annoying

This runway's quite a bitch

That's PAIM done though

If someone wants a challenge, I recommend this XD

[dusty sky]

Where are you landing bro

You're landing in the literal middle of nowhere

[rustic charm]

Exactly

Everts ops™

That strip (and I think it should be a gravel strip actually, but MSFS didn't want to) exists entirely just to serve a USAF long-range radar station

It's owned by USAF too and is a proper military airstrip, only military aircraft, and aircrafted specifically contracted by the military (like Everts DC-6s occasionally are) are allowed to land there

[dusky leaf]

Proper flying IMO

[reef isle]

FJS 732 should be released on XP12 the first half of June

[rustic charm]

Love it

Why can't I have such alerts in my life though, would be a lot easier

[dusky leaf]

Beat me to it 😆

[rustic charm]

R E D

[tardy hedge]

tried the sharedflight thing for xplane 12 today, super fun!

[rustic charm]

How did it do?

Smooth, etc?

[tardy hedge]

yep pretty smooth

unless for the fact simbrief importing didnt work for the other person

might know the issue for this though

unless, everything worked nicely

[rustic charm]

Tbh considering that for us the option for shared cockpit would be the Tu-154, the simbrief import won't be needed

[scenic spade]

Greeting everyone

[tardy hedge]

then have fun with it!!!!!

today me and my friend will try vatsimming today

we only did a trial run

[rustic charm]

I'm sure we will, once we finally get round to it that is

[dusky leaf]

https://forums.x-plane.org/forums/topic/346926-bringing-a-25-year-old-airbus-a320-simulator-back-to-life-with-x-plane-12/#comment-3031959 This is very cool

[rustic charm]

Russian airports love this stuff lol

[rustic charm]

Lovely

I'm right off onto the next one here

Did Moscow - Saint Petersburg

Now Saint Petersburg down to Sochi

[hollow oracle]

The title says A320, but it looks like a weird hybrid of an A300 and A320 cockpit?

It’s cool nonetheless, my home cockpit is just an Xbox controller

[trim harbor]

i was gonna say, im 90% sure its an a300/a310 simulator

[reef isle]

I didn't give the plane enough NU stabilizer

had no pitch autorithy to flare 🥲

sorry to all my passengers

sorry to my plane

[rustic charm]

Eh, it's fine, could be worse

Those jets are built to withstand a lot XD

[reef isle]

I'm sure XP12 is more sensitive to the stabilizer setting

in XP11 I never really touched it and it was always fine

@rustic charm

We nearly met 😛

[rustic charm]

Indeed!

I'm off to Sochi

[dusty sky]

Film the landing

Please

I want to see you land that thing

[rustic charm]

I'm flying a 319

Nothing interesting

[dusty sky]

Sad tree noises

[rustic charm]

Also it's night now, you'd see nothing

[dusty sky]

Turn on night vision bro

[rustic charm]

Well there's no such thing

And even if there was

I wouldn't use it

[dusty sky]

Does it have sun glasses

[rustic charm]

I don't think the plane had sunglasses

[dusty sky]

I mean the sim

[rustic charm]

I don't think the sim has sunglasses either

[dusty sky]

Xplane does

[rustic charm]

Why would I need sunglasses

It's not like the sun in sims is actually blinding

[dusty sky]

What have you never taken off straight into the sun

[rustic charm]

Don't think I've had any situation where I actually needed something to block the sun

[reef isle]

In XP12 it 100% is

that flight I just did I taxied looking straight at the sun

literally could not see ANYTHING, I had to raise my "seat" until the sun itself was hidden behind the cockpit wall so I could actually see a little bit

sunglasses didn't really help either

[hollow oracle]

https://fixvx.com/Dexerto/status/2052153938154254353?s=20

Dexerto (@Dexerto)

Flight Simulator player nails the perfect landing

🎥: u/ed3dfx

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · May 6, 2026, 10:30 PM

[dusty sky]

I took off into the sun with a tu-154

I put down the cover a bit cuz I didn't think of the sun glasses

[rustic charm]

Didn't have an option for ILS so GLS it is

And that's a wrap

[reef isle]

Nice

[runic hare]

https://thresholdx.net/flyjsim-announces-june-release-of-732-twinjet-v4-for-x-plane-12/p

Dunno if this was posted already

[rustic charm]

Something isn't adding up...

[dusty sky]

lmao

idk...

[runic hare]

Man I sent this a 3am I can’t even remember what it was supposed to be

5 days in a row flying kills a mf

[rustic charm]

The FJS 732 for XP12

The link actually points there

But I think it got cut off partially so for whichever reason it opens an old page

[runic hare]

Oh

Ok

[reef isle]

https://flightsim.to/addon/108505/inibuilds-l-1011-luzair

My screenshots and thumbnails really are rubbish

[rustic charm]

Tbf I think thumbnails might just be the most important part lol

[reef isle]

after I finish a livery usually the LAST thing I want to do is thumbnail and screenshots lol

I mean I think to be fair some of them are not bad, but I could definitely put a lot more effort 😆

like the Luzair one is terrible

probably at some point I'll retake them all

if I actually fly with them?

Blue Tulip ❤️

I wish we had a proper EIS1, the Hues one is... better than nothing

[rustic charm]

Yeah that's fair

I'm just saying that people will often not click on the livery just cause it doesn't look nice on screenshots

[dusty sky]

idk I don't like this livery

how many liveries did united have

[reef isle]

On jet planes they had 6 I think

Friendship, Saul Bass, Battleship Grey, Blue Tulip, Continental/Globe, Evo Blue

[rustic charm]

I think with friendship there were a few slight variations

[reef isle]

Yeah definitely

I think each aircraft type was slightly different

[rustic charm]

But overall that's it, yeah

[rustic charm]

Even on the same type tbf

Like the 727s

Some had a thick red stripe that curves down on the front

[reef isle]

Looks like here for example there are no stars

[reef isle]

Aaaaah yes, I get what you mean now

[rustic charm]

Others had a full polished bottom, on the front too, and no red stripe

[reef isle]

Every time we end up talking about this I feel so sad

After the merger United really lost its soul 🙁

They didn't even keep their own logo...

[rustic charm]

Honestly

I actually think it got better

[reef isle]

I mean, I disagree but that's fair enough

I still think it's sad

[rustic charm]

I think that Friendship and Saul Bass were peak, then Battleship Grey was the dark ages, Blue Tulip was a step towards revival, then COA was the revival itself and Evo Blue is kinda just a variation of that

I do think it's bad they lost the yellow in the globe with evo blue, but other than that it's quite great

[reef isle]

I just can't help but feel that COA is very bland

It's not bad

It's just... Nothing

Even the logo feels very generic, just the globe

I was never a fan of their liveries though, even when they had the meatball

I'm not very fond of the red and gold colours scheme, but at least it was interesting

Battleship Grey is the opposite. I don't think it's particularly 'good". I think US Airways delivered much better with the same concept with their black livery, but it was anything but bland haha

I think I actually prefer Evo Blue to the Globe, even though I agree, a dash of orange would have gone a long way

(same with the latest DLH livery)

[rustic charm]

I guess I agree there

It's not bland

It's unique

But I still just don't like it

Honestly the worst one of United's liveries

[reef isle]

That's fair

I also think that Saul Bass was probably their best, but closely followed by Blue Tulip

With yes... Battleship Grey being a little bit of a dip

Although I still think they're all fantastic overall

Friendship was good, but I think it's definitely very '60s 😅

While I genuinely think UAL could do a Saudia and bring back Saul Bass and it would look FANTASTIC on their A350s and 787s

[rustic charm]

Oh yeah, friendship tbh is very very piston-era

[rustic charm]

Or Cathay

[reef isle]

Yes

[rustic charm]

They did it too

[reef isle]

Saudia is a little annoying since the livery they brought back isn't the exact same

I think it's a little worse

Honestly, if United brought back the "U" and repainted everything in Saul Bass, the world would just heal.

[rustic charm]

Well with both Saudia and Cathay, the old liveries had a shiny polished bottom

That is simply impossible on 350s

[reef isle]

I mean more about the line no longer being a cheat line

I think it would have been cool if they made it "interact" with the cockpit windows and kept it higher

don't get me wrong, it's still very cool 😄

I know that polished metal isn't a thing anymore unfortunately

[rustic charm]

I agree there tbh

[reef isle]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKPIB5KXEAA-b_A.jpg

you can see that their actual "retro" livery still has it higher too

[rustic charm]

Yep

[civic aspen]

Might fly an A330 Neo

900 to be exact

[trim harbor]

it looks good in the united livery

i cannot lie

[rustic charm]

Discord is back

Cool

[rustic charm]

For Qatar, there can never be enough F1 sponsorships

Literally the title sponsor of half of the races, plus also a sponsor specifically for Alpine

At this point they should probably buy out the team

Meanwhile Etihad sponsors the rest of the races and McLaren. Should also just make their own team so we get a Qatar Airways vs Etihad title fight

[rustic charm]

My overnight luck is someting else

From what I can see, for whatever reason the AP got disconnected and the plane entered a nosedive

[civic aspen]

MCAS? 😉

[rustic charm]

Be careful with it, heard it sometimes likes to disagree with pilots

[rustic charm]

How to identify an MD-11 by takeoff performance data alone:
V1 of 180+ kts? That's an MD-11

Doing the crazy departure too

Simply lovely

[ancient burrow]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2768103524

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2767746814

[civic aspen]

frantic moment of trying to stop the plane descending when I hit W by accident

[reef isle]

🥲

[civic aspen]

Did I cook

[rustic charm]

Over western Russia now, almost in Europe

[dusty sky]

so pretty

first image looks so good especially

[rustic charm]

Ngl I really need to fly in Asia more

Currently for me it's basically just the Asian part of Russia plus VTBD and VHHX

[rustic charm]

Descending

Slightly above profile

(Slightly = 8000ft above)

Yep, doesn't look like I'm ready for final

All parked up and done, that's one plane returned home. Probably a few dozen more to go...

[fickle oar]

how derated was that

[rustic charm]

Flex 24

[fickle oar]

wtf

[rustic charm]

Which btw

Technically would be non-derated

Cause the OAT was 24

[fickle oar]

i dont think ive ever managed to get a v1 above 165

[rustic charm]

Well, it was an MD-11 with over 12 hours worth of fuel and basically a maximum load that would still permit the range

I wasn't at MTOW

But I was at the maximum weight that I'd be able to do that flight with

[fickle oar]

but idk might be a PW thing

(the inferior md11 engine )

[rustic charm]

PWs and GEs have pretty much the same performance tbh

[fickle oar]

takes quite the throttle to get it rollin with the PWs tho

[rustic charm]

Yeah, taxi requires a fair bit more throttle input, but takeoff is pretty much the same

Also how dare ye call the PWs inferior

PWs are really nice

Very sad they get overlooked

Like with the 310

And I won't even... actually I will mention the fact that early 310s had JT9s, why can't we have nice things

[fickle oar]

some yes

but in most cases GE and RRs are just... better 😎

[runic hare]

ATC in china on vatsim is even more terrifying than the russians

[tardy hedge]

is it me or is the levelup 737ng better than the zibo one (unless for the fact theres no PA announcement pack and ground services)

[reef isle]

I prefer the Zibo flight model

I use the Levelup for the non -800s though it's ok

[hollow oracle]

personally, I prefer the visual upgrades of the levelup over the zibo

even if the zibo flight model is better, the levelup is still pretty good

[full plank]

went for a NEO flight that isn't in Europe

ofcourse from my favourite destination, Phuket

[tardy hedge]

the only stupid thing is that the levelup 737 approach mode feels a bit broken

it doesnt really follow the glideslope its supposed to

needed to do a go around

[reef isle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UBgw6-KpgQ&list=RD6UBgw6-KpgQ
NEW HIT

After the Air Berlin song

we have LET US FLY WITH TUIFLY

I love that YT recommends me this stuff

[reef isle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeWEdyY-aLQ
@rustic charm

[runic hare]

wtf

[rustic charm]

That's beautiful

[rustic charm]

Wait, does Vatsim force you to go by your real name?

[reef isle]

yes...

[rustic charm]

I forgot they did that

That's not really great imo

[reef isle]

not it absolutely isn't

[rustic charm]

What's wrong with nicknames...

Well

Obviously we know, nicknames are "not serious", and we all know vatsim is "a very serious community"

[reef isle]

I think as long you pick a reasonable sounding nickname and nobody "reports" you or anything like that you'll probably get away with it

but in some cases they have asked people to send photos of their ID...

[rustic charm]

That's... bad

I ain't sending them my ID in case what

Well, my passport cause I don't have an ID

But either way, easier to log off

[trim harbor]

💀

[trim harbor]

correct

they've done that to ME

i got suspended until i sent them proof of name

super dumb

[reef isle]

Worst part about VATSIM IMO

[trim harbor]

i really dont wanna or can shittalk vatsim

but

they're like avsim

if anyone remembers the fiasco of dealing with their admin team

not many here will but man

those people had a massive stick up their bum

[hollow oracle]

or pmdg forums

please sign with your full name, social security number, and the 3 digits on the back of your credit card

[full plank]

no Avsim was way worse

still is last I checked lol

[hollow oracle]

i havent used avsim for anything but their file library, so i dont know personally

[full plank]

Vatsim has a file library? thats news to me

[hollow oracle]

avsim, i am tired

[tardy hedge]

LOL?

my nickname is just my "name" and my pronouns

surprised nobody reported me

[hollow oracle]

i have no idea how jetblue does their transatlantic flights irl, i am right at the absolute limit of weight, fuel, and runway for this flight

im climbing like a 747

[civic aspen]

I couldn’t do it irl.

[hollow oracle]

my brother did, i have no idea how he survived in an A321 for almost 7 hours

[hollow oracle]

jetblue has a C24Y114 config in their cabin, which is probably why its able to make the trip, there's only 138 pax on board

yeah, updating the simbrief route with the proper pax number, it doesnt throw any warnings or errors now

in hindsight, i dont know how i didnt think about how the cabin configuration and passenger number would probably be how jetblue operates these transatlantic flights

its fun learning about stuff like that though, i never really considered that airlines have sub-fleets inside of just the same aircraft type

[trim harbor]

Do u have any additional ACTs?

[hollow oracle]

from what i know, its basically impossible to find out if an A321neo has ACTs from an outsider view, unless if there's some resource that has it listed

i'm just going with the standard A321neoLR profile on simbrief with 3 ACTs

[trim harbor]

Correct

Aer Lingus runs their XLRs with 185 seats and a 2 class iirc

Plus 3 ACTs

[hollow oracle]

yeah, that sounds about right

jetblue's mint first class takes up a pretty massive amount of space given the fact that its an A321, so that probably has to do with the cut down number of economy seats

[civic aspen]

PAKT

[runic hare]

Capacity is limited to 156 I think, funky catering loads, ultra lightweight seats, no cargo only hold baggage (exception of medical supplies and small engineering equipment)

Also they use weird thales trolleys that weigh like 6kg

The toliss accounts for only the standard 321 config but it accounts for the performance differences between neo subvariants

[reef isle]

Is that the 321neo LR?

Or just the "stock" 321neo?

[full plank]

LR

[rustic charm]

Doing a milk run I hope?

[civic aspen]

I think I want to today

That was a flight from Seattle

[rustic charm]

Well milk runs start in Seattle tbf

[civic aspen]

True that

[rustic charm]

Or Anchorage

I think 1 of them technically starts in Fairbanks

[civic aspen]

Think I might go to Juneau

[rustic charm]

But Seattle - Ketchikan doesn't feel like a milk run tbh, it's bit different

Juneau is fun

[civic aspen]

The approach was really fun, let me send the video. The weather was moody as hell and it felt like a scene from How to train your dragon lol

[rustic charm]

I remember not too long ago... actually, long ago me & a friend did a full milk run together, real-time

[rustic charm]

Which for me was 6am lol

So there we were, him on a 737 and me on a 738, in absolutely terrible weather, doing Seattle - Ketchikan - Wrangell - Petersburg - Juneau - Anchorage with no breaks

Funny enough there was a chance we'd get split up, cause when we left Seattle, the weather in Wrangell permitted cat B aircraft to land, which the 737 was in, but I was in cat C in a 738 and the weather was below minimums. Thankfully it improved slightly so I could land there too

[civic aspen]

I’d cry I think xD

That’s so long

I did a Spokane and back before I went to Ketchikan

[rustic charm]

Oh yeah, the flights alone aren't that long, but you take into account ground time and, well...

Actually that last one wasn't 6am for me, it was fine it looks like

Took off from Seattle at 6pm, landed in Anchorage just shy of 3am

The trial run before it was fun though. I didn't follow the ground times then, just land, taxi in, taxi out & take off. So no waiting. Took off from Seattle at 10pm, landed in Anchorage at 5:30am

Anybody up for shared cockpit on 5 flights throughout the night?

[runic hare]

Great start to the day

[reef isle]

MY GOD

first he sends me this

then amends my route to fly a FUCKING RNAV SID

[rustic charm]

HAHAH

[civic aspen]

LOL

[tired pond]

What a troll

[tardy hedge]

LOL?

do people just assume some aircraft dont have ILS???? 😭

[rustic charm]

The other way around tbf

People assume that all aircraft have RNAV

And generally RNAV procedures are "prefered" nowadays I think

[reef isle]

it wasn't even about the approach

[rustic charm]

Especially when it comes to SIDs and STARs

[reef isle]

but the SID

[rustic charm]

Yeah, wrong word from me there 😅

[reef isle]

I think I might have been partly to blame because I forgot to include the SID in my routing, (SimBrief somehow didn't recognize the MIA2), but I had the first waypoint as a MIA2 exit point

[rustic charm]

Tbf RNAV SIDs and STARs do offer a lot more flexibility, but trying to follow one in a Caravelle...

[reef isle]

so I wanted to manually add the SID to the FPL when I submitted it for VATSIM, but I think I just changed the aircraft type and forgot

that's what's crazy to me

so he found a weird plane

I assume he must have googled it?

and then he though "oh what a weird route this guy has, sure SimBrief is stupid" and plonked the RNAV SID and routing there

if he didn't send me the S210 message

I honestly wouldn't have cared at all

[rustic charm]

Yeah, that would be less surprising

[reef isle]

but it almost felt like he was trolling like that

hahah

[rustic charm]

But when he knows you're flying a plane from what, the 60s?

I think it's the 60s anyway

Also what sim is that even

I don't think anything new has the 210

[reef isle]

XP12, so the sim is recent at least hahahah

[rustic charm]

FSX?

Oh

Wait seriously

[reef isle]

https://www.patreon.com/cw/PilotNL

yes 😄

[rustic charm]

Well that's cool